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Title: Notes and Queries, Vol. IV, Number 93, August 9, 1851

A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists,

Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.

Author: Various

Editor: George Bell

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Vol. IV.—No. 93.

NOTES AND QUERIES:

A MEDIUM OF INTER-COMMUNICATION

FOR

LITERARY MEN, ARTISTS, ANTIQUARIES, GENEALOGISTS, ETC.

When found, make a note of.—CAPTAIN CUTTLE.

VOL. IV.—No. 93.

SATURDAY, AUGUST 9. 1851.

Price Threepence. Stamped Edition, 4d.

CONTENTS.

NOTES:—

Lady Hopton 97

Notes on Newspapers—The Times, by H. M. Bealby 98

Folk Lore: Devonshire Superstitions 98

Minor Notes:—Curious Inscription—Glass in Windows formerly not a Fixture—D'Israeli: Pope and Goldsmith 99

QUERIES:—

On a Song in Scott's Pirate—Fire on the Maintop 99

Minor Queries:—Was Milton an Anglo-Saxon Scholar?—Tale of a Tub—Cleopatra's Needle—Pair of Curols—Cowper Law—Order of Greenwich—House of Yvery—Entomological Query—Spenser's Portraits—Borrow's Bible in Spain—Dogmatism and Puppyism—A Saxon Bell-house 100

MINOR QUERIES ANSWERED:—Cycle of the Moon—Cocker's Arithmetic—Sanskrit Elementary Books—Townley MSS., &c.—Man is born to trouble, &c. 102

REPLIES:—

Bellarmin's Monstrous Paradox 103

The Gookins of Kent, by Edward Armstrong 103

Curious Monumental Inscription, by S. W. Singer 105

The late Mr. William Hone, by Douglas Allport 105

Plaids and Tartans 107

The Caxton Memorial, by Bolton Corney 107

Lady Flora Hastings' Bequest, by the Marchioness of Bute 108

Replies to Minor Queries:—Inscription on an old Board—Churches decorated at Christmas—Royal Library—Proof a Sword—Dr. Young's Narcissa—Circulation of the Blood—Dr. Elrington's Edition of Ussher—Was Stella Swift's Sister?—The Mistletoe—Family of Kyme—The Leman Baronetcy—Cure for Ague 109

MISCELLANEOUS:—

Books and Odd Volumes wanted 111

Notices to Correspondents 111

Advertisements 112

List of Notes and Queries volumes and pages

Notes.

LADY HOPTON.

I have thought that the following old letter, relative to a family once of some distinction, and especially as describing a very remarkable individual, from whom a multitude of living persons are immediately descended, might be of sufficient interest to occupy a place in NOTES AND QUERIES. It has never, that I am aware of, been published; but it has long been preserved, amongst similar papers, with the accompanying endorsement:—Though Mr. Ernle's letter relating to Lady Hopton and her family contains some fabulous accounts, and is in some parts a little unintelligible, yet it may be urged in confirmation of the truth of the several descents therein mentioned. He was the son of Sir John Ernle, and could not but have some general knowledge of his grandmother's relations.

This Mr. Ernle, afterwards knighted, died A.D. 1686.

Sir Arthur Hopton lived at Witham Friary, co. Somerset, and the heroine of this document was, according to the pedigree in Sir R. C. Hoare's Monastic Remains of Witham, &c., Rachel, daughter of Edmund Hall of Gretford, co. Lincoln, Esq. The date of Sir Arthur's death is not there given, but he was made a K.B. in 1603.

C. W. B.

"I will give you as good an account as I can remember of our wise & good Grandmother Hopton, who I think was one Hall's daughter of Devonshire without title, & had an elder brother, without child, who said to his younger brother's wife, who was then with child, if she would come to his house, & lie in, he would give his estate to it if a daughter, & if a son it should fare never the worse: so she had my grandmother, & he bred her up & married her to Sir Arthur Hopton of Somerset: who had 4000 a year, & she as much.

"By him she had 18 children; 10 daughters married; whose names were: Lady Bacon, Lady Smith, Lady Morton, Lady Bannister, & Lady Fettiplace; Bingham, Baskett, Cole, Thomas, & my Grandmother Ernle; these daughters & their children have made a numerous company of relations. The duke of Richmond & Lord Maynard married our Aunt Bannister's daughters & heirs (one to Rogers, the other to Bannister).[1] Fettiplace, which was also Lord Jones, his daughter & heiress married Lord Lumley, now Scarbro.

[1] ("The Lady Bannister's first husband was Mr. Rogers, of Brenson (hodiè Bryanston) near Blandford, in Dorsetshire: by him she had the Dutchess of Richmond, who was heiress to him: she had another daughter of Sir Robt. Bannister, who married Lord Mainard."—Added in another Version.)

"Cole's heir to Popham of Wilts: & Hungerford, & Warnford married Jones, & some Mackworth, & Wyndham in Wales; some Morgan, & Cammish, & Kern, with many others that I have forgot. The sons were Mr Robt Hopton, Sir Thomas, Sir Arthur. Robt had one son, wch was the Lord Hopton of great worth, who married the Lord Lewen's widow, and had no child: so the estate went to the daughters. But our Grandfather Hopton, having so good an estate, thought he might live as high as he pleased, & not run out: but one day he was going from home but cd not, but told his Lady she wd be left in great trouble, for the great debts he had made on his estate; & that he knew he should live but few days, & cd not die in peace, to think what affliction he should leave her in: so she desired him to be no way concerned for his debts, for he owed not a penny to any one. So he died of a gangrene in his toe in a few days. Now she had set