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Inside the Music: the Life of Idris Muhammad: The Life of Idris Muhammad
Inside the Music: the Life of Idris Muhammad: The Life of Idris Muhammad
Inside the Music: the Life of Idris Muhammad: The Life of Idris Muhammad
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This book is the product of
extensive taperecorded
interviews conducted by
Britt Alexander. Mr. Alexander
met Idris Muhammad at Joe Segals
Jazz Showcase in Chicago, IL,
in the Fall of 1998, when he was writing free-lance for drum magazine
publications. Mr. Muhammad then resided in Austria. Upon
publication of the initial interview, both Muhammad and Alexander
were living in New York City. The interviews continued. The result
has been formatted into this book. Mr. Muhammad is now retired and
living in New Orleans, LA. Mr. Alexander is a professional drummer,
living in Santa Fe, NM.
LanguageEnglish
PublisherXlibris US
Release dateApr 26, 2012
ISBN9781469192185
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    Inside the Music - Idris Muhammad

    INSIDE THE MUSIC

    The Life Of Idris Muhammad

    IDRIS MUHAMMAD

    Copyright © 2012 by Idris Muhammad.

    Library of Congress Control Number: 2012905772

    ISBN: Hardcover 978-1-4691-9217-8

    Softcover 978-1-4691-9216-1

    Ebook 978-1-4691-9218-5

    All rights reserved. No part of this book may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording, or by any information storage and retrieval system, without permission in writing from the copyright owner.

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    Contents

    Living Near the Mississippi River

    Dr. Wilson’s Yard

    Behind the Mask

    Levi’s

    Fishing Poles

    Catholic Church and Catholic School

    Shoeshine on Magazine Street

    Streetcars, Graveyards

    and Football Practice

    Candy Store

    Railroad Tracks and Shotgun Houses

    1220 Lyons Street

    Peeing on Ms. Booze’s Roses

    McDonald #6

    Beer in a Bathtub

    The French Market

    Two Tribes

    Spy Boy, Flag Boy, Big Chief

    First Job—Mardi Gras Parade

    Mardi Gras Parade—Part Two

    Mardi Gras Parade—Part Three

    Shelled Streets

    Monkey Bars

    Ms. Nermy Calls the Cops

    Basket Full of Crabs

    Valence Street: Cats with Knives

    Trouble

    Trouble—The Aftermath

    Thirteenth Birthday Present:

    12-Inch Reels

    My Rhythms

    Steam Pressure Machines

    First Set of Drums

    Gunsmoke and The Ninth Ward

    High Noon

    Mardi Gras Mambo

    Ham for Pop

    1957: Larry Williams

    and the Hawkettes on the Road

    On the Road: Part Two

    On The Road: Part Three

    French Ancestral Influence

    Don’t Play the Backbeat

    The Music Business

    Drum Lesson from Paul Barbarin

    Press Roll

    You Talk Too Much

    Sam Cooke and the Dooky Chase Diner

    On The Bus

    Pinstripes and Chain Gangs

    Stranded in D.C.

    Maxine Brown

    1961: Dee Clark and Jerry Butler—Energy vs. Ice

    Traveling with Jerry Butler

    Chain Reaction

    Larry Frazier

    Drummer and Director

    Thunder

    The Portable Record Player

    Curtis Mayfield: Keep on Pushing

    Driving Lessons

    People Get Ready

    Goodbye to Curtis

    and the Chicago Hawk

    LaLa Brooks

    Basket Weave of Light

    Hot Plate

    Wizard in the Kitchen

    Credit

    House Drummer at the Apollo

    Natural Blonde Maple Drums

    Incident in Harlem: Scorpion

    The Five Spot

    Checkered Cabs

    Art Blakey’s Cymbals

    Lou Donaldson

    The Catch in the Net

    Rudy Van Gelder’s Studio

    Cutting a Record

    Capturing My Sound

    Lou’s Jazz Lesson

    The Guitar Period

    The Saxophone Period

    Touring vs. Recording

    West Indian Dances

    Hair

    Hair: Part Two

    The Economics of Hair

    Four Room Apartment

    New Volvo Wagon

    Sundance

    Becoming Idris Muhammad

    Kissing the Blackstone

    The Contractor

    Ancient Drums

    Roberta Flack

    Special Tuning Process

    India: 1975

    Rosebud Studios

    Philosophy of People

    Creed Taylor and the Origin

    of CTI Records

    Homeless Person’s Bass Drum

    Inner City Blues

    The Lamb on the Lamb

    Bob James’ Groove

    Making Hit Records

    Power of Soul

    On Being a Star

    Pharoah Sanders

    Fantasy Records and Theresa Records

    Paris Reunion Band:

    Red Vibe and Max Roach

    Groove Elation

    Black Jeans

    Piano Black

    Istanbul Agop Cymbals

    Joe Lovano

    The First Chief of the Congo Nation

    A Conduit for Music

    Section One

    The Neighborhood

    Living Near the Mississippi River

    As kids in New Orleans we didn’t wear no shoes. Summertime was hot. When a hurricane come through it would blow the river and the water overflows its banks—it would flood—and that’s when we’d go out there. Fishing poles, nets and baskets.

    In order to get to the water you had to step in the mud. And that mud would be all over your feet. The river water was muddy. My mother didn’t allow us in the river because it was too dangerous.

    Nice big frogs, crab, crawfish, shrimp, get a sack of that stuff. We’d go get a whole basketful and bring that back home. People would see you with that basket of big old fish. Sell some of that on the way back home! You’d eat good that night. That’s what we used to do.

    And if you swam in the river, then as you walked back from the river to where we lived, the sun dried your ass off—all you had to do was take your nails and scratch your skin—wasn’t nothing but mud.

    Your mama says, You been out in that river?

    No ma’am.

    So your mother knew you was in the river and she’d beat the tar out of you because cats drowned out there. Playing all day without a shirt on and no shoes, trousers rolled up at the knee, that night I might get an asthma attack. We were told we couldn’t go near the river.

    Barefoot at the waterfront, the river looks like a solid piece of earth moving in reverse. Catch the water in a certain way and it looks like you can walk right out over surface of it. The waves come in, and then the waves retreat because the water has to go out. The river has a mysterious way of moving yet not moving. And it was muddy, muddy waters, man.

    We live right down the street from the Mississippi River.

    Dr. Wilson’s Yard

    Dr. Wilson was the black doctor in our neighborhood. He had a beautiful house set inside a white picket fence. Inside this great big yard he had a whole orchard of different fruits. His family would never eat them so we’d go down to Dr. Wilson’s house, jump over the picket fence and we’d steal his fruits from his trees. All different kinds of fruit trees. Then go jump back over the fence and eat them on the way down to the Neville’s house. Every day my mother would say, Don’t go into Dr. Wilson’s yard.

    Getting over that picket fence was a big problem. Because I was short, it would come way up over the top of my head. Trying to climb over it, I always got my pants caught in the pickets. It would tear my pants. And then, after you get into the yard, then you got to get back over the fence to get out. Man, it looked like that fence was ten feet tall. You don’t want to go out through the front door.

    Now you got figs and you got apples, peaches, pears—all this fruit in your pockets. And as you’re trying to get over the fence, some of this fruit is bustin’ open in your pockets.

    We’d get to Arthur Neville’s house and his dad would say, What you all been doin’?

    And we’d say, Well, we ain’t be doin’ nothin’, Mr. Neville . . . we ain’t be doin’ nothin’.

    And he’d say, What’s the matter with your hands then?

    We’d be like, What hands . . . there’s nothin’.

    That color. Where is that color from?

    And it was from the pomegranate. The dye from the pomegranate. It was all in your hands—in between your fingers—and you got the seeds from the figs, they’re smashed in between your fingers and he’d say but what is that? And he knew we’d been in Dr. Wilson’s yard. And we ain’t supposed to go in there. And your mama, she’d wash your clothes and she sees the figs, sees the pears and the skins and beats your ass. Get an ass whippin’.

    Your mama says, You been over to Dr. Wilson’s yard?

    No ma’am. I’d tell my mama it was the flavoring from an Italian Ice. It was a Sno-ball, I’d say.

    And then she washed my pants and she sees the skins in my pockets, juice down my shirt, pants torn where it catch on the picket fence. Now I got to figure out how to tell my mama how I torn my pants.

    But Dr. Wilson, he didn’t mind us taking his fruits because his family wasn’t eating all of that stuff. But our family was stealing. And they didn’t want us to steal. Dr. Wilson didn’t really care that we were taking it because it would just fall on the ground and rot anyhow.

    Behind the Mask

    The only horses we had was a broomstick. We would go to the place where they killed the chickens in the market and we would get the feathers from the chickens. Some would be Indians. Some would be cowboys. We put the chicken tail feathers on the Indians.

    The Indians would shoot at the cowboys, the cowboys would shoot at the Indians, lasso the bad guys, round them up and put them in jail. There were boxcars by the railroad tracks. We weren’t allowed to go near the rail yard because it was too dangerous. So we’d drag the guys who would be captured down to the railroad tracks and put them in the boxcars.

    Or we would put them in a certain area of someone’s yard and wrap a chain-link fence around them. We built a jail out of chain-link fence and put the prisoners inside of it. That was the jail. After the jail would be full we’d let all the cats out or we wouldn’t have nobody to play with.

    Tom Mix—who was the famous cowboy at that time—he was my idol. I had some jeans and a cowboy shirt and a cowboy hat and a cowboy mask so I’d be a cowboy on Mardi Gras Day. Ever since I was a small kid I always wanted to be the cowboy.

    The mask is to disguise people who want to have a good time, drink a lot, maybe they’d go grab somebody’s backside. If somebody did something to you during that year, you weren’t able to get them back, and then you’d try to catch them on Mardi Gras Day. Do something to them where they don’t know who did it. A guy would beat up a guy and have a clown suit on. Or he might be dressed like the Lone Ranger.

    And when they’d say, Who did it?

    The guy who had the Lone Ranger mask on.

    So they used to go down to the corner, take off the mask, and put another one on. It was kind of like that. I used to put on the mask.

    But my mother had a saying, I know who you are, Mardi Gras.

    So, in other words, she’d say to the person behind the mask, I know who you are with that mask on. I know who you are, Mardi Gras.

    Levi’s

    Jeans was a thing that you wore around Mardi Gras time. Western cats wore them in Texas and Arizona. It was working-people trousers and low-life trousers. It wasn’t had no class to it. We only wore them at Mardi Gras time because only jeans could stand the Mardi Gras day wear and tear. You’d be on your knees trying to get the beads or climbing up the trees and only Levi’s could take that wear.

    When you bought a new pair of Levi’s them boys was so stiff you would get cuts in your ankle and it hurt. So then my mama used to buy them long so we rolled ’em up above the ankle. But then you’d have welts in the crease of your knee—where they’d rub up against your skin—that’d be all raw right down in that crease.

    Nobody ever thought of washing them before you wear them. You just put them on new. They was like boards. You had to wear them boys awhile. Didn’t nobody think they got softer after you washed them. But brand new? Man, oh man. Didn’t nobody think. We just put them on new. We used to play cowboys and Indians in the French Market. And Levi’s was for cowboys.

    Fishing Poles

    Can you see that streetcar coming down the tracks? That’s the St. Charles Line, man. New Orleans is known for its streetcars. I used to ride the St. Charles line with my mother to go uptown. But I preferred to travel that same line downtown with my father with our fishing poles and our bags. It was a twenty minute ride on the St. Charles Line to the lake where we would fish.

    My dad would explain to me on the ride how we was surrounded by the Gulf of Mexico, Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

    You got ocean, lake and river. So there’s three beds of water. That’s why the fishing is so good.

    We made our own nets, bags and fishing poles. My dad showed me how to do this. Cut through the bamboo pole and take it apart at the joints; brush shellac over the pieces and let them dry. Now you can slide one piece down inside the other. Then wrap this peculiar-looking fishing wire around it and you’ve got a bamboo fishing pole. My dad would build fishing poles like this out of a single piece of bamboo.

    Then my dad made a bag for it which kind of looked like a pool bag—you know how the cats would carry their pool stick in a bag—so we had the fishing poles in this special-made cloth bag. To top it off, my daddy even made the container to hold the fish. To make it waterproof, he would sew together a bag made out of a raincoat. Sew the liner into the inside so that it wouldn’t drip when you had wet fish down in there.

    When we come to the lake we take the poles out of the bag, put them together, put the line on it, put the weight, bait it with the hook, throw it in the water. Splash!

    That particular streetcar, the St. Charles Line, runs next to the graveyard and across the street from the field where we used to run around, play baseball and all kinds of sports. We had neighborhood football games on that field in the fall and winter when it got cooler. Surrounded by water, it would get cold outside and the water would get cold and make the dampness. But it never would freeze.

    We played football in the cold dampness on that field. You be hit so very nice; hit you good, man. Talk about hitting you, man—ooh wee—guys would knock teeth out. Guys used to get their ass busted. I loved to play football. Knock the bejesus out of you.

    Catholic Church and Catholic School

    There is a Catholic church off Magazine Street where we used to go with my mother. Come out of the house Sunday morning and take her hand and walk to church. Down the block, these bony black dogs would lurch at us; they would rush the black wrought iron gates and chicken-wire fences.

    We’d get to the church and the pastor would be standing there, holding open the huge carved and paneled double doors. Inside, the mass was kind of quiet. It was peaceful. There was a life-size crucifix up front that I used to stare at.

    How long has he been up there like that? I asked.

    A long time.

    He’s God? He can do anything? Can He turn His head to the other side?

    My mama pinched the shit out of me because you can’t hit them in church you know. She used to have a way where she’ll grab your skin and twist it into a knot. She grabbed me and she pinched me with that twist.

    I’m a kid so I don’t know that it was made out of plastic, mud and clay. Since He’s God, I thought, can He do anything? Can He turn his head to the other side? I got scolded by that. But I was inquisitive about God even then.

    I was originally enrolled in the Catholic school. But the nuns used to beat us so bad that I knew there wasn’t no God in their hearts. They beat your ass so bad, man. I’m doing something I’m not supposed to be doing. So they’d make you put your hand out. They’d take the ruler and they’d hit you in the hand.

    Once I did something and when the nun raised up to hit me I moved my hand out of the way. The nun hit her own leg because I had moved my hand so fast. Because my hand was hurting so bad I couldn’t take it no more. She starts coming down—I moved my hand out—and whap! She hit her own leg.

    She whipped my ass so bad I had welts on me. Beat the shit out of me. In those days the nuns used to have their heads shaved. Or they’d cut if off real close to the scalp.

    I told her if she hit me again, I’ll take that hat,—you know, they used to wear that wimple hat, which is part of their habit—and I’ll snatch it right off your bald head.

    She beat my ass real good. Beat the shit out of me. Beat my ass good.

    Shoeshine on Magazine Street

    I had a shoebox that my dad made for me and I had shoe polish and the rags and the brushes. I used to go down to Magazine Street because they had quite a few bars there—mostly white bars—and I would go in these bars and ask the guys:

    Anybody want a shoeshine?

    They’d say, Yeah, come on in.

    I’d shine one guy’s shoes and the guys would say, Your shoes look good. Shine mine. And I’d end up with about four or five shoeshines. Four or five shoeshines at a crack!

    My mother used to be angry. Don’t you ever go in that bar again. I don’t want you on Magazine Street anymore. I don’t like that.

    I’d tell her what went down and there were certain things she didn’t like. Because the white guys used to tell me when I was down on my knees shining their shoes, "I’ll give you fifty cents if you let me rub

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