Three Worlds

KARL POPPER

THE TANNER LECTURE ON HUMAN VALUES

Delivered at
The University of Michigan
April 7, 1978
KARL RAIMUND POPPER was born in Vienna in 1902. He
studied at the University of Vienna, where he received
his Ph.D. in 1928. He lectured in Canterbury, New Zea-
land, from 1937 to 1945 and in the London School of
Economics (University of London) from 1946 to 1969.
Sir Karl is a Fellow of the Royal Society and of the British
Academy and a member of several national and interna-
tional academies.
 I

In this lecture I intend to challenge those who uphold a monist

or even a dualist view of the universe; and I will propose, instead,
a pluralist view. I will propose a view of the universe that recog-
nizes at least three different but interacting sub-universes.1
There is, first, the world that consists of physical bodies: of
stones and of stars; of plants and of animals; but also of radia-
tion, and of other forms of physical energy. I will call this physi-
cal world ‘world 1’.
If we so wish, we can subdivide the physical world 1 into the
world of non-living physical objects and into the world of living
things, of biological objects; though the distinction is not sharp.
There is, secondly, the mental or psychological world, the
world of our feelings of pain and of pleasure, of our thoughts, of
our decisions, of our perceptions and our observations; in other
words, the world of mental or psychological states or processes,
or of subjective experiences. I will call it ‘world 2’. World 2 is
immensely important, especially from a human point of view or
from a moral point of view. Human suffering belongs to world 2;
and human suffering, especially avoidable suffering, is the central
moral problem for all those who can help.
World 2 could be subdivided in various ways. W e can dis-
tinguish, if we wish, fully conscious experiences from dreams, or
from subconscious experiences. Or we can distinguish human
consciousness from animal consciousness.

1 For a fuller discussion of these ideas, see my Objective Knowledge (Oxford:

Clarendon Press, 1972, 1979); my Autobiography in P. A. Schilpp, ed., The Phi-
losophy o f Karl Popper (La Salle, III.: Open Court, 1974), also published as Un-
ended Quest (London and La Salle, III.: Fontana/Collins and Open Court, 1976);
and my contributions to K. R. Popper and J. C. Eccles, The Self and Its Brain (Berlin,
Heidelberg, New York, London: Springer International, 1977).
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The reality of the mental world 2 -and with it, the reality of
human suffering -has been sometimes denied; more recently by
certain monistic materialists or physicalists, or by certain radical
behaviourists. On the other hand, the reality of the world 2 of
subjective experiences is admitted by common sense. It will be
part of my argument to defend the reality of world 2.
My main argument will be devoted to the defence of the
reality of what I propose to call ‘world 3’. By world 3 I mean the
world of the products of the human mind, such as languages;
tales and stories and religious myths; scientific conjectures or
theories, and mathematical constructions; songs and symphonies;
paintings and sculptures. But also aeroplanes and airports and
other feats of engineering.
It would be easy to distinguish a number of different worlds
within what I call world 3. W e could distinguish the world of
science from the world of fiction; and the world of music and the
world of art from the world of engineering. For simplicity’s sake
I shall speak about one world 3; that is, the world of the products
of the human mind.
Many of the objects belonging to world 3 belong at the same
time also to the physical world 1. Michelangelo’s sculpture The
Dying Slave is both a block of marble, belonging to the world 1
of physical objects, and a creation of Michelangelo’s mind, and
as such belonging to world 3. The same holds of course for
paintings.
But the situation can be seen most clearly in the case of books.
A book, say volume one of my own set of Shakespeare‘s Works,
is a physical object, and as such it belongs to world 1. All the
individual books belonging to the same edition are, as we know,
physically very similar. But what we call ‘one and the same
book’ — say, the Bible — may have been published in various edi-
tions which physically are vastly different. Let us assume that all
these editions contain the same text; that is, the same sequence of
sentences. In so far as they do, they are all editions, or copies, of
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one and the same book, of one and the same world 3 object, how-
ever dissimilar they may be from a physical point of view. Obvi-
ously, this one book in the world 3 sense is not one book in the
physical sense.
Examples of world 3 objects are: the American Constitution;
or Shakespeare’s The Tempest; or his Hamlet; or Beethoven’s
Fifth Symphony; or Newton’s theory of gravitation. All these are
objects that belong to world 3, in my terminology; in contradis-
tinction to a particular volume, located at a particular place,
which is an object in world 1. This volume can be said to be a
world 1 embodiment of a world 3 object.
If we discuss the influence of the American Constitution on the
life of the American people or its influence on the history of other
peoples, then the object of our discussion is a world 3 object;
similarly if we compare the often very different performances of
one dramatic work, say Shakespeare’s Hamlet.
Of most though not of all world 3 objects it can be said that
they are embodied, or physically realized, in one, or in many,
world 1 physical objects. A great painting may exist only as one
physical object, although there may be some good copies of it.
By contrast, Hamlet is embodied in all those physical volumes that
contain an edition of Hamlet; and in a different way, it is also
embodied or physically realized in each performance by a theatri-
cal company. Similarly, a symphony may be embodied or physi-
cally realized in many different ways. There is the composer’s
manuscript; there are the printed scores; there are the actual per-
formances; and there are the recordings of these performances,
in the physical shape of discs, or of tapes. But there are also the
memory engrams in the brains of some musicians: these too are
embodiments, and they are particularly important. One can, if
one wishes, say that the world 3 objects themselves are abstract
objects, and that their physical embodiments or realizations are
concrete objects.
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II
Many of my philosophical friends, especially those who are
materialists or physicalists, are strongly opposed to all this. They
say that my way of talking is seriously misleading. They assert
that there is only one world: the world of physical objects. This
is the one and only existing or real world; everything else is fic-
titious. They say that there exist only concrete objects, such as
records or tapes or performances, or memory engrams in our
brains. Abstract objects they reject: these do not exist. They say
that in speaking of world 3 objects, I am guilty of hypostatization;
which means, in English, that I make substances or things out of
non-existing ghosts, or out of fictions.

III
I regard it as my main task in this talk to make clear what I
mean when I speak of a world 3 object, such as a symphony or a
scientific conjecture or theory. I therefore wish to explain to you
the strong objections to my views about world 3 objects raised by
my philosophical friends, the monists as well as the dualists. Let
me first explain what a materialist or physicalist monist would
say; a monist who insists that there is only one world, the world of
physical objects; that is, what I call world 1.
It seems that a materialist or a physicalist would say that what
I call a world 3 object can be, and ought to be, analysed and
reduced to physical objects in a way like the following. H e would
say that a symphony — let us say Beethoven's Fifth Symphony —
does not exist. What does exist are those physical things which I
have called its embodiments or its physical realizations: the many
performances and discs and tapes and scores of the Fifth Sym-
phony. But, the physicalist would say, the most important em-
bodiments are the engrams, the memory traces in people's brains;
not only in the brain of the original composer of the symphony,
or in those of the experts who have memorized the whole work,
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but also in those of more ordinary people who would merely

recognize the one or the other characteristic passage; of those
people whose brains are so conditioned as to make them disposed
to utter words like: ‘I think I remember this: it is the Fifth Sym-
phony, isn’t it?’ Those who react in this way have, we may
assume, some memory traces written into their brains. These
memory traces may make them speak of the Fifth Symphony. The
memory traces or engrams and the speech acts are physical: they do
exist. But the Fifth Symphony as such just does not exist; al-
though, admittedly, we often use language in such a way that we
speak of the Fifth Symphony as if it were one of the existing
things.
IV
This, in brief, is the position of the materialist monist or
physicalist. A dualist, that is, a man who accepts both world 1
and world 2 as real, would accept almost all that the monist says.
But he would add that the monist has omitted the main thing:
the great experience of listening to Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony.
This experience, the dualist will concede, depends in some way
on the sequence of events in our brains: if these brain events are
interfered with by a blow on the head, or by an anaesthetic drug,
the experience ceases to be. But what motivates a man to travel
for miles to go to a concert and to buy a seat he can perhaps ill
afford are not the brain events but mainly conscious experiences;
and perhaps also unconscious experiences, such as his perhaps
unconscious expectation of hearing something wonderful, and
exciting.
Thus the dualist will be willing to accept what the monist says
about events in the brain and memory engrams in the brain, but he
will point out that the monist is grossly mistaken when he insists
that this is all there is. In fact, the dualist will point out that the
monist has ignored the most important thing: the world 2 of our
conscious experiences, without which the world 1 would be a
world of lifeless and senseless waste.
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There are of course views of the universe other than the two
views here described -materialism or physicalist monism on the
one hand, and dualism on the other. (There is, more especially,
a Berkeleyan monism of experiences.) However, I shall confine
my critical discussion to those two views which I have just briefly
sketched: to materialism or physicalism, because it is widely held
by contemporary philosophers; and to dualism because it is, I
think, the view of common sense. I do not pretend that I can
refute these two views; but I can challenge them, by offering and
defending a pluralist view.

What have I as a pluralist to say to the materialist monist and

to the dualist? First of all, I am, like the dualist, prepared to
agree with much that the materialist monist says; in fact, with
everything except his denial of a world 2 of experiences and of a
world 3 of abstract objects such as the Fifth Symphony. And
similarly, I agree with all that the dualist says, except with his
implicit belief that the Fifth Symphony is to be identified with our
experiences of hearing it, or of remembering it.

I may perhaps start from the fact — or what seems to me a

fact-that there are better and worse performances of Beethoven’s
Fifth Symphony: better and worse live performances, better and
worse records, better and worse tapes.
If this is a fact, and I think it is a fact, then it creates a real
difficulty for the materialist monist. Of course, if a bad per-
formance could be simply identified with one that deviates from
Beethoven’s original score, and a good performance with one that
agrees with the score, then there would be no difficulty. However,
it is quite possible that one of the best performances has here or
there a minor lapse, and that one of the more clumsy performances
agrees with the score in every place. Moreover, we could confine
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ourselves to comparing performances and other embodiments that

are technically without lapses. But there will still be better and
less good performances.
I do not see how a materialist or even a dualist could explain
that there are, objectively, better and worse performances. I think
that a materialist or a dualist could only suggest that we call those
performances better to which more people, or perhaps more musi-
cians, react approvingly; either by way of ‘verbal behaviour’ (as
the materialist would say) or by way of real enjoyment (as the
dualist would insist). In other words, both the materialist monist
and the dualist would have to say something like this: ‘The per-
formance was very good because many people enjoyed it -or at
least said that they enjoyed it.’ Neither the monist nor the dualist
can say: ‘It was a marvellous performance; and therefore many
people enjoyed it, and were deeply moved by it.’ Still less could
they say: ‘It was a marvellous performance, but few people
appreciated it.’ I suggest, however, that this kind of thing can be
said, and that it may well be true. A performance so judged is a
world 3 object in my terminology — of course, one that is em-
bodied, or physically realized — and it can be judged as a world 3
object.
VI
Our discussion of world 3 objects has carried us to the follow-
ing problem: Is a critical evaluation of a work of art necessarily
subjective in the sense that it simply records the subjective world 2
reaction or the appreciation of the persons that were faced with
an embodiment of the work? Or can a work of art be great or
marvellous as such? It will be clear that the latter view, the
objectivist view, is closely linked to the view that there exists a
world 3, and that there are world 3 objects.
It may well be the case that world 3 objects and great works of
art exist, and that we have, at the same time, nothing like an
objective yardstick of their greatness. The only yardstick at our
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disposal may indeed be the subjective reaction of certain people

to the work of art. But this could be perfectly compatible with the
thesis of the objective greatness of a work of art. The people
would be used like iron filings in a magnetic field: their reactions
would make visible an objective quality of the work of art. This,
I suggest, is the true situation; and the reaction of the public is
merely an indicator of the quality of the work of art -and cer-
tainly not a very reliable indicator.
I do not wish to say very much more about the problems of
aesthetics, but I wish to make this particular point quite clear.
I suggest that there is a world 3 of the products of the human
mind, and I am trying to show that the objects of world 3 may be
in a very clear sense not fictitious but quite real: they may be real
in that they may have a causal effect upon us, upon our world 2
experiences, and further upon our world 1 brains, and thus upon
material bodies. A symphony or another work of art may be an
example of such a world 3 object; and a symphony may be a great
symphony. And to say this may mean that it is objectively great;
even though we may have no objective yardstick to go by, but only
the subjective reaction of certain human beings. Thus we must not
conclude from the lack of an objective yardstick either to the sub-
jective character of the work that is being judged, or to the sub-
jective character of its merits.
By contrast, both the materialist monist and the dualist seem
to be bound to say that there is nothing objective about a work of
art. If the materialist monist or even the dualist is correct -if the
universe consists only of concrete physical world 1 objects, or of
world 1 objects and concrete world 2 experiences, but not of
abstract objects such as great books or great theories or great
symphonies -then all talk about such objects must be fictitious.
Talk about a great symphony, or about a great performance,
would have to be interpreted as metaphorical talk. Thus if we say
‘this is a great symphony’ we would not mean that there is a
symphony and that it is great, and that this objective fact may
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perhaps be ascertained, if we are lucky, by the subjective reaction

of certain people. Rather, our talk would mean no more than that
people react, in a certain typical way, to certain physical world 1
objects; for example to a musical performance.
It would be exactly as if the statement ‘Here is a strong mag-
netic field’ would have to be taken as metaphorical; not as talk
about an objective physical entity, a magnetic field, but merely as
talk about the behaviour of iron filings, if we scatter them in a
certain region.
Now this view has indeed been adopted by some eminent
philosophers; not only with regard to magnetic fields, but even
with regard to observable physical bodies. Thus a physical body
has often been interpreted by philosophers not as an objective
physical entity but as ‘a permanent possibility of [causing] sensa-
tions’ in people.
This is a perfectly respectable philosophical view. I happen to
regard it as mistaken, for various reasons.2 That is to say, I am a
realist regarding the physical world 1. Similarly, I am a realist
regarding world 2, the world of experiences. And I am a realist
regarding world 3 — the world 3 that consists of abstract objects,
such as languages; scientific conjectures or theories; and works
of art.
VII
Before proceeding to explain my arguments in favour of this
threefold realism -a realism regarding the worlds 1, 2 and 3 -
I want to make a final remark on works of art. After that I will
turn to the discussion of other world 3 objects, and especially to
scientific conjectures or theories.
This final remark on works of art will be very brief. But I
wish to make clear that it is on a big subject, a subject worthy of
being discussed for hours.
2 See, for a discussion of these issues, chapters 3 and 6 of my Conjectures and

Refutations (London: Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1963, 1976; New York: Basic
Books); also available as a Harper Torchbook (New York: Harper and Row, 1968).
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By far the most influential, and the most widely accepted

theory of art, of music, and of poetry, is the theory that all art is,
essentially, self-expression : the expression or the revelation of the
personality of the artist, and especially the expression of his emo-
tions. I regard this theory as completely mistaken. It is trivially
true that we express our inner state in everything we do, including
of course in art. But we express our inner state also in the way we
walk, cough, or blow our nose. Self-expression cannot, therefore,
be used to characterize art.
But I do not merely regard the expressionist theory of art as
mistaken. I regard it as having a pernicious and a destructive
influence upon art. In great art, the artist considers his work as
important, rather than himself. This healthy attitude is under-
mined by the theory that art is self-expression.3

VIII
I now come to the discussion of my central problem. Are
world 3 objects, such as Newton’s or Einstein’s theories of gravita-
tion, real objects? Or are they mere fictions, as both the materi-
alist monist and the dualist assert? Are these theories themselves
unreal, and only their embodiments real, as the materialist monist
would say; including, of course, their embodiments in our brains,
and in our verbal behaviour? Or are, as the dualist would say, not
only these embodiments real, but also our thought experiences;
our thoughts, directed towards these fictitious world 3 objects, but
not these world 3 objects themselves?
My answer to this problem- and, indeed, the central thesis
of my talk -is that world 3 objects are real; real in a sense very
much like the sense in which the physicalist would call physical
forces, and fields of forces, real, or really existing. However, this
realist answer of mine has to be defended, by rational arguments.
There is perhaps a danger here that my central problem, the

3 For a fuller discussion, see sections 13, 14, and 40 of my Unended Quest.
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reality or existence of world 3 objects, may degenerate into a

verbal issue. After all, we can call whatever we like ‘real’ or
‘existent.’ I think that we can get rid of this danger, by starting
from the most primitive idea of reality, and by adopting the physi-
calist’s own method of generalizing this idea, and, ultimately, of
replacing it altogether.4
I suggest that all of us are most certain of the existence or
reality of physical bodies of medium size: of a size such that we
can easily handle them, turn them round, and drop them. Such
things are ‘real’ in the most primitive sense of the word. I con-
jecture that a baby learns to distinguish such things; and I suppose
that those things are most convincingly real to the baby that he
or she can handle and drop, and can put into his or her mouth.
Resistance to touch also seems to be important; and some degree
of temporal persistence.
Starting from a primitive idea of real things like this, the
physicalist extends the idea by generalizing it. I suggest that the
materialist’s or physicalist’s idea of real physical existence is
obtained by including very big things and very small things, and
things that do not persist through any length of time; and also by
including whatever can causally act upon things, such as magnetic
and electrical attraction and repulsion, and fields of forces; and
radiation, for example X-rays, because they can causally act upon
bodies, say, upon photographic plates.
W e are thus led to the following idea: what is real or what
exists is whatever may, directly or indirectly, have a causal effect
upon physical things, and especially upon those primitive physical
things that can be easily handled.
Thus we may replace our central problem of whether abstract
world 3 objects such as Newton’s or Einstein’s theories of gravita-
tion have a real existence, by the following problem: can scientific

4 See section 4 of my contribution to The Self and Its Brain, and also my Objec-

tive Knowledge. chapter 2.

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conjectures or theories exert, in a direct or indirect way, a causal

effect upon the physical things of world 1? My reply to this ques-
tion will be: yes, they can indeed.

IX

My fundamental argument in support of world 3 realism is

very simple. W e all know that we live in a physical world 1
which has been greatly changed by making use of science; that is
to say, by using world 3 conjectures or theories as instruments of
change. Therefore, scientific conjectures or theories can exert a
causal or an instrumental effect upon physical things; far more so
than, say, screwdrivers or scissors.5
Although I find this simple argument that scientific conjectures
or theories can be used to change world 1 decisive, and convincing,
I am well aware of the fact that a materialist monist, or even a
dualist, will not be ready to accept it. Each of them has a reply
to it.
The dualist will say that it is not the conjecture or theory as
such -not Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity as such -that
has played the role of an instrument, for example, in the making
of the atom bomb, but, rather, certain concrete thought processes
of certain concrete people, such as Einstein himself, and Paul
Langevin. Thus the dualist will say that it was Einstein's thought
that led him, in 1905, to write a paper 6 which gave an outline of
his Special Theory of Relativity, and that, after the publication
of this paper (but in the same year),7 Einstein deduced from the

5 The fact that conjectures or theories can be used as instruments should not be
interpreted to mean that they are nothing but instruments. See the references given in
note 2, above.
6 Albert Einstein, 'Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Körper', Annalen der Physik
17 (1905): 891-921.
7 Albert Einstein, 'Ist die Trägheit eines Körpers von seinem Energieinhalt
abhangig?', Annalen der Physik 18 (1905): 639-41. I am grateful to Troels Eggers
Hansen for a discussion of some points connected with this paper.
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Special Theory of Relativity an important result. This result was

first written:
M'- M = E /c 2

It is now usually expressed by the famous formula

E=mc2

Now the dualist will insist that it was the thought processes of
Einstein, and of other physicists -such as Paul Langevin -
which led to this formula. And Langevin seems to have been the
first to think that this formula might help to explain the tremen-
dous output of energy by the sun; and also, that it predicts that
tremendous amounts of energy would be released if we could
transform some of the mass of an atomic nucleus into radiation.
Thus it is, according to the dualist, the world 2 experiences, the
conscious thought processes, which have played a causal role in
bringing about the construction of the atom bomb, rather than
any world 3 objects such as the contents of formulae or theories.
Apart from the thought processes, certain physical embodiments
such as books, written and printed papers, and written formulae,
also play a causal role; and of course, certain brain processes.
But, a pure dualist will insist, there is no need to bring in any
abstract world 3 object as such.
The argument of the materialist monist will be very similar,
except that he will eliminate the conscious thought processes, and
replace them by the corresponding world 1 brain processes. He
will stress, more than the dualist, the various physical embodi-
ments of the theory; and he will assert that these physical embodi-
ments rather than any abstract entity (such as the theory in itself)
are the instruments which are used in changing our physical
environment; which are used, for example, in the construction of
the atom bomb.
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X
In replying to the dualist and to the materialist monist, I am
now reaching the very core of my argument for the existence of
world 3.
I assert that we can, and that indeed we must, distinguish
sharply between knowledge in the subjective sense and knowledge
in the objective sense.
Knowledge in the subjective sense consists of concrete mental
dispositions especially of expectations; it consists of concrete
world 2 thought processes, with their correlated world 1 brain pro-
cesses. It may be described as our subjective world of expectations.
Knowledge in the objective sense consists not of thought
processes but of thought contents. It consists of the content of our
linguistically formulated theories; of that content which can be,
at least approximately, translated from one language into another.
The objective thought content is that which remains invariant in a
reasonably good translation. Or more realistically put: the objec-
tive thought content is what the translator tries to keep invariant,
even though he may at times find this task impossibly difficult.
It is the objective thought content of a conjecture or theory
on which the scientist’s subjective thought processes work. They
are at work to improve the objective thought contents by way of
criticism. It is true that the scientist has to grasp subjectively the
implications of the objective theories, before he can apply these
theories in order to change our physical environment, which is
part of world 1. That is to say, world 2 acts as an intermediary
between world 3 and world 1. But it is the grasp of the world 3
object which gives world 2 the power to change world 1.
I will try to explain this most important distinction between
a concrete world 2 thought process and an abstract world 3
thought content with the help of examples.8

8 In my Objective Knowledge, chapters 3 and 4, I made some remarks about the

history of the distinction between thought in the subjective sense and thought in the
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Take, as a first example, the following statement: ‘Leonardo

thought that a machine can be built that is able to fly like a bird.’
This statement mentions a person, Leonardo, and it mentions a
thought of Leonardo’s. However, the thought is here characterized
by its content. As a matter of fact, we know that this thought
content did occur to Leonardo quite frequently. Thus our state-
ment indirectly refers to many of his concrete thought processes,
by mentioning their common abstract thought content. There
must have been particular occasions when this thought content
occurred to Leonardo; for example the first time it occurred to
him, and the last time it occurred to him. On these various occa-
sions, he experienced concrete thought processes. These were
undoubtedly different processes on every occasion they occurred.
What they had in common was, precisely, their content.
If we look at this example, it may seem that the thought con-

objective sense. I have since (in section 13 of my contribution to The Self and I t s
B r a i n ) written more about the relation of Plato’s ideas to my theory of world 3, and
I would now like to add some historical remarks about the more recent history of these
ideas, supplementing what I wrote in Objective Knowledge, chapter 4: I am anxious
to stress the contribution of Heinrich Gomperz (whose work I have discussed briefly
in note 89 to my intellectual autobiography, Unended Quest).
Heinrich Gomperz was born in 1873 and was about twenty-five years younger
than Frege, who was born in 1848. Gomperz (in his Weltanschauungslehre,vol. II/i
[Jena and Leipzig: Diederichs, 1908)) distinguished clearly between thought in the
objective sense and thought in the subjective sense. Gomperz was influenced in this
by Husserl’s Logische Untersuchungen, 1900-01; and Husserl, in his turn, had been
strongly influenced by Bolzano and Frege (especially by Frege’s review, in 1894, of
Husserl’s psychologistic Philosophie der Arithmetik, 1891). Thus Heinrich Gomperz’s
work of 1908 was, no doubt, indirectly influenced by Frege. But Gomperz did not
know this because Husserl did not acknowledge Frege’s influence on himself.
So much I knew when I wrote note 1 2 on p. 162 of Objective Knowledge (where
I discussed Husserl). But what I failed to see (though it emerges from the bibli-
ography on pp. 150-152 of Objective Knowledge) was that the second volume of
Gomperz’s Weltanschauungslehre ( 1908) was published ten years before Frege’s ‘Der
Gedanke’ (Beiträge z . Philosophie d. deutschen Idealismus 1 [1918]: 58-77). This
means that the part played by Heinrich Gomperz in the prehistory of the idea which
Frege (in 1918) called ‘Das dritte Reich’ and which I now call ‘world 3’ is very much
more important than I realized when I published Objective Knowledge (despite the
fact that Gomperz fell back in the end on a psychologistic theory; see my Unended
Quest, note 89 and text). The whole history would be worth a careful re-examina-
tion -it is not improbable that Frege knew of Gomperz’s book, which was published
in Jena, where Frege was working.
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tent is merely an abstraction, a mere aspect, of a concrete world 2

thought process; so that the dualist may seem to be right.
Now let us consider the following statement: ‘In 1905 Einstein
worked out the Special Theory of Relativity.’
This statement again refers to a person and his world 2
thought processes, and it mentions a particular occasion -the
occurrence of those thought processes that led for the first time to
this particular thought content, the Special Theory of Relativity.
But the Special Theory of Relativity is more than a mere
aspect of Einstein’s world 2 thought processes, as the following
statement shows. ‘There are many important logical consequences
of the Special Theory of Relativity which Einstein did not think
of in 1905; and there may be important logical consequences of
this theory which nobody has thought of so far, and which perhaps
nobody will ever think out.’
If you consider this statement then you will see that the theory
is not merely an abstraction from a concrete thought process, but
an object very much like other objects; I suggest, a typical abstract
world 3 object. It is a thought content, but neither a thought con-
tent of one thought process, nor of several thought processes; but
rather something like the thought content of some possible as well
as some actual thought processes.
What is most characteristic of this kind of world 3 object is
that such objects can stand in logical relationships to each other.
Examples of logical relationships are : logical equivalence;
deducibility; compatibility; and incompatibility. These logical
relationships can hold only between abstract world 3 contents,
such as conjectures or theories; they never hold between concrete
world 2 thought processes. Even if we speak of similar thoughts,
we usually have thought contents in mind, and a kind of logical
similarity.
O n the other hand, causal relations such as the influence of
one author upon another may be said to hold between thought
processes, and not between thought contents.
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Thus if we say that James Clerk Maxwell was influenced by

Michael Faraday, we speak, first of all, about Maxwell’s thought
processes, and we suggest that these processes were partly caused
by reading Faraday’s papers and grasping their thought content.
However, we also hint, at the same time, that a logical similarity
of the thought contents of Faraday’s and Maxwell’s papers
resulted.
By contrast, if we say that there are similarities between the
thoughts of the Buddha and of Christ, then we do not speak about
thought processes at all, but only about thought contents. The
same holds if we say that certain of the thoughts of the Buddha
are incompatible with certain of the thoughts of Christ, or that
certain thoughts of Einstein’s contradict certain thoughts of New-
ton’s. In all these cases, we do not speak about events, about
thought processes, but about doctrines, or theories, or thought con-
tents: about things which, in my terminology, belong to world 3.
Thought contents are, we may conjecture, products of human
language; and human languages, in their turn, are the most im-
portant and basic of world 3 objects. But languages have, of
course, also a physical aspect, while the content of what has been
thought or said is something abstract. W e may say that the con-
tent is that which we aim to preserve, and to retain invariant, in a
translation from one language to another. (If the theory is correct
that the dance of the honeybee contains a message that can be
translated: ‘There is food at such and such a distance and in such
and such a direction’, then the language of the bee-dance also has
a content.)
XI
From the point of view which I am defending here, the transi-
tion from a non-linguistic thought to a linguistically formulated
thought is of the greatest importance. By formulating a thought
in some language, we make it a world 3 object; and thereby we
make it a possible object of criticism. As long as the thought is
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merely a world 2 process, it is merely a part of ourselves, and it

cannot easily become an object of criticism for us. But criticism
of world 3 objects is of the greatest importance, both in art and
especially in science. Science can be said to be largely the result
of criticism -of the critical examination and selection of con-
jectures, of thought contents. In scientific discussions, what we do
is to criticize competing conjectures from the point of view of
whether or not they may be true.
Not only logical relationships but also the ideas of truth and
of fulsity apply only to thought contents, to world 3 conjectures
or theories. Admittedly, we sometimes speak also of true or of
false beliefs; and a belief is, as a rule, a world 2 object. For
example, if we speak of an unshakeable belief or, say, of a shaken
belief, we speak indeed, I suggest, not of a world 3 object, but of
a world 2 object. But if we speak of a true belief or a false belief,
then we speak not only of a world 2 object, but also of the world 3
thought content: the theoretical content connected with this par-
ticular belief.
T o sum up. I suggest that we must distinguish between world 2
thought processes and world 3 thought contents. The thought
processes are concrete, in the sense that they happen to certain
people on certain occasions; at a certain place and at a certain
time. Also, we have reason to conjecture that there are brain
processes closely connected with these thought processes.
By contrast, there are the thought contents, which are abstract
world 3 objects. They can stand in logical relationships. The
logical consequences of a theory are especially characteristic of a
world 3 thought content. W e even may take the abstract thought
content of a theory to be the set of its logical consequences.

XII
You may still be inclined to say that only thought processes
and the corresponding brain processes exist, and are real, and that
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the thought contents are merely abstract aspects of the concrete

thought processes. But consider the following example. Children
learn to count. This is a skill, a man-made invention. W e learn so
to count that we can construct to any given number its successor
number, without end. So we come to understand the infinite
sequence of natural numbers. But since it is infinite, there is no
physical realization, no embodiment of this sequence. Neverthe-
less the sequence of natural numbers is a world 3 object about
which we can make many discoveries. Thus we discover that all
numbers (and ‘all numbers’ means infinitely many) are either odd
or even. And we discover that certain numbers, such as 2, 3, 5, 7,
11, 13, are prime numbers, that is to say, not divisible. (Of course,
all numbers are either divisible or prime.) And we even discover
Euclid’s theorem, according to which, although prime numbers
become rarer and rarer when we proceed in the sequence of natural
numbers, they never peter out completely: Euclid’s theorem says
that there are infinitely many prime numbers within the infinite
sequence of natural numbers.
It is of course perfectly true that all these discoveries are the
results or products of thought processes: what I call world 3 is,
indeed, the world of the products of the human mind; that is, the
products of world 2. But the infinite sequence of natural numbers
is, clearly, an abstract world 3 object; and it is an object that we
can investigate, and about which we can make quite unexpected
discoveries. In fact, there are many open problems about this
object, problems of number theory which mathematicians have
failed to solve so far.
We can compare a world 3 object, such as the infinite sequence
of natural numbers, and the problems that arise in connection with
it, with a world 1 object, such as, say, DNA, and the problems it
presents to the biochemist; or, somewhat more crudely, we can
compare it with a high mountain, such as Mount Everest, and the
problems it presents to the mountaineer.
In all these three cases we are attracted to the object of our
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search by our curiosity, and by the wish to solve some difficult

problems. In all these cases we investigate an object of which we
have partial knowledge, the knowledge we inherit from earlier
investigators. In all these cases we may be surprised by the results
of our investigation. In all these cases the results can be inter-
subjectively tested, by other investigators.
But the main point is that in all these cases, there is genuine
causal interaction between the object of investigation and our-
selves. In each case, the object is comparatively passive while we
are actively investigating it; just as a man who sits for a portrait
is comparatively passive while the painter is active. Yet the man
is there, and his presence does exert a causal influence upon the
painter.
I have stressed that the sequence of the natural numbers, since
it is infinite, cannot be physically realized, or embodied. It is an
unembodied, an abstract world 3 object. The same holds for every
conjecture or theory, if we identify a conjecture or theory -that
is, its logical content -with the system of all the theorems that
can be derived in it; that is to say, with the corresponding deduc-
tive system. Such a theory, or such a system, is infinite, and may
be full of surprises. Thus it must have been a surprise for Ein-
stein when he found, shortly after writing his first paper on Special
Relativity, that the now-famous formula E = mc2 could be deduced
from it as a theorem.
XIII
World 1 embodiments of world 3 objects, such as handwritten
books, or printed books, or articles in journals, are extremely im-
portant; but they are important not as world 1 objects but as
world 3 objects. Examples of other such world 1 embodiments
of world 3 objects are: a geographical map, a plan of a building,
or of an engine, or of a motor car, or of an aeroplane. Such maps
or plans are based upon theories; they are, precisely like books,
embodiments of world 3 objects. Their causal efficacy is very
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obvious: such maps and plans, of a new harbour, or a new airport,

have indeed been instrumental in changing world 1. But like
books, they are valueless for those who cannot read them.
But not only maps and plans are world 3 objects: plans of
action are too; and this may include computer programmes.
Of all these world 3 objects it is very characteristic that they
can be improved by criticism. And it is very characteristic of them
that the criticism may be cooperative: it can come from people
who had nothing to do with the original idea. This is another
argument for the objectivity of world 3 objects, and for the fact
that they may stimulate people to think: but this means, cause
them to think. Critical cooperation in planning has become
fashionable, and it is becoming more so. But it is an old idea.
Edmund Burke, the British statesman and political theorist, wrote
two hundred years ago, about the critical emendation or mending
of political and military plans: ‘In my course I have known and
. . . cooperated with great men; and I have never yet seen any
plan which has not been mended by the observations of those who
were much inferior in understanding to the persons who took the
lead in the business.’9
It is clear that when Burke speaks here of plans, he has world 3
objects in mind, rather than the concrete thought processes of the
cooperating people. These concrete thought processes help to im-
prove the abstract common plan. They consist of criticisms of the
abstract common plan, and therefore must be causally influenced
by the abstract plan, and especially by the aims -the not yet
existing aims -it sets out to achieve. Critical cooperation on an
abstract plan presupposes the objectivity of the plan. Moreover,
in saying that a plan can be improved through criticism, Burke
points to an aspect of world 3 objects which makes them again
similar to world 1 objects: it is possible to work on a world 3

9 I have used this passage from Burke as one of the mottoes to the first volume
of recent editions of The Open Society and Its Enemies (London: Routledge & Kegan
Paul, 1963, 1977; Princeton, N. J.: Princeton University Press, 1966).
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object, almost as a mechanic works on an engine, and to improve

its performance.

XIV
Let me go back to my original central thesis. My thesis was
that world 3 objects such as theories play a tremendous role in
changing our world 1 environment and that, because of their in-
direct causal influence upon material world 1 objects, we should
regard world 3 objects as real. Nothing depends here on the use
of the word ‘real’: my thesis is that our world 3 theories and our
world 3 plans causally influence the physical objects of world 1;
that they have a causal action upon world 1.
This influence is to the best of my knowledge always indirect.
World 3 theories and world 3 plans and programmes of action
must always be grasped or understood by a mind before they lead
to human actions, and to changes in our physical environment,
such as the building of airports or of aeroplanes. It seems to me
that the intervention of the mind, and thus of world 2, is indis-
pensable, and that only the intervention of the mental world 2
allows world 3 objects to exert, indirectly, a causal influence upon
the physical world 1. Thus in order that Special Relativity could
have its influence upon the construction of the atom bomb, various
physicists had to get interested in the theory, work out its con-
sequences, and grasp these consequences. Human understanding,
and thus the human mind, seems to be quite indispensable.
Some people think that computers can do it too, because com-
puters can work out the logical consequences of a theory. No
doubt they can, if we have constructed them and instructed them
by way of computer programmes which we have thought out.
Thus I arrive at the view that a mind-body dualism is nearer
to the truth than a materialist monism. But dualism is not enough.
We have to recognize world 3.
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XV
Having mentioned computers I feel that I have to say a word
or two about an issue which is much discussed today. Can com-
puters think? I do not hesitate to answer this question with an
emphatic ‘No’. Will we ever be able to build computer-like
machines that can think? Here my answer is a bit more hesitant.
After reaching the moon and sending a spaceship or two to Mars,
o n e should not be dogmatic about what can be achieved. How-
ever, I do not think that we shall be able to construct conscious
beings without first constructing living organisms; and this seems
to be difficult enough. Consciousness has a biological function in
animals. It does not seem to me at all likely that a machine can
be conscious unless it needs consciousness. Even we ourselves fall
asleep when our consciousness has no function to fulfil.
Thus unless we succeed in creating life artificially, life aiming
at long-term survival; and more than that, artificial self-moving
animals that require a kind of pilot, I do not think that conscious
artificial intelligence will become a reality. In fact, much im-
pressed as I am by the power of computers, I think that too much
fuss has been made about them.

XVI
If I am right that the physical world has been changed by the
world 3 products of the human mind, acting through the inter-
vention of the human mind then this means that the worlds 1, 2,
and 3, can interact and, therefore, that none of them is causally
closed. The thesis that the physical world is not causally closed
but that it can be acted upon by world 2 and, through its inter-
vention, by world 3, seems to be particularly hard to swallow for
the materialist monist, or the physicalist.
And yet, this openness of the material world 1 to influences
from outside is just one of those things which experience shows us
constantly. Thus there is no reason to think that human brains
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have changed much in the last hundred years; but our material
environment has changed beyond recognition both through our
planned actions and through the unintended consequences of our
planned actions. Of course, the materialist will explain it all in
terms of our brain processes; and admittedly, they do play a role
in mediating the intervention of effects from world 3 through
world 2 to world 1. But where the great change originated is in
world 3, in our theories. These have, metaphorically speaking, a
kind of life of their own, though they depend heavily on our
minds and, very likely, also on our brains.
I think that it means shutting one’s eyes to the obvious, and
explaining away the obvious, if we deny that world 1 is causally
open to world 2, and through it, to world 3.

XVII

Mention should also be made of the close relationship between

what I call world 3 and what the anthropologists call 'culture'.
The two are very nearly the same. Both can be described as the
world of the products of the human mind; and the term 'cultural
evolution’ covers very much the same as I should call 'world 3
evolution’.
However, the anthropologists are inclined not to distinguish
the world 1 embodiments of world 3 objects from the world 3
objects themselves. This leads to a great difference between their
outlook and mine, and between our two views of the universe.

XVIII

To sum up, we arrive at the following picture of the universe.

There is the physical universe, world 1, with its most important
sub-universe, that of the living organisms.
World 2, the world of conscious experience, emerges as an
evolutionary product from the world of organisms.
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World 3, the world of the products of the human mind,

emerges as an evolutionary product from world 2.
In each of these cases, the emerging product has a tremendous
feedback effect upon the world from which it emerged. For
example, the physico-chemical composition of our atmosphere
which contains so much oxygen is a product of life -a feedback
effect of the life of plants. And, especially, the emergence of
world 3 has a tremendous feedback effect upon world 2 and,
through its intervention, upon world 1.
The feedback effect between world 3 and world 2 is of par-
ticular importance. Our minds are the creators of world 3; but
world 3 in its turn not only informs our minds, but largely creates
them. The very idea of a self depends on world 3 theories, espe-
cially upon a theory of time which underlies the identity of the
self, the self of yesterday, of today, and of tomorrow. The learn-
ing of a language, which is a world 3 object, is itself partly a crea-
tive act and partly a feedback effect; and the full consciousness of
self is anchored in our human language.
Our relationship to our work is a feedback relationship: our
work grows through us, and we grow through our work.
This growth, this self-transcendence, has a rational side and a
non-rational side. The creation of new ideas, of new theories, is
partly non-rational. It is a matter of what is called ‘intuition’ or
‘imagination’. But intuition is fallible, as is everything human.
Intuition must be controlled through rational criticism, which is
the most important product of human language. This control
through criticism is the rational aspect of the growth of knowl-
edge and of our personal growth. It is one of the three most im-
portant things that make us human. The other two are compas-
sion, and the consciousness of our fallibility.