Moy Se Quotes 1977
Moy Se Quotes 1977
Marcel Moyse
From notes at masterclass in Brattleboro, Vermont, USA, in May 1977
by Jerrold Pritchard
The famous French flutist and former Professor of Flute at the Paris Conservatory, Marcel Moyse was a
masterful flute teacher and player. He could be very precise and effective in his instructions, but his
energy, his enthusiasm, his devotion to perfection, and his way of describing how to approach a melody
or a special phrase were what made him exceptional. At times he would seem to get the very best from
a student in his master classes just by the look on his face, the sparkle in his eyes, the gesture of his
hands.
In May of 1977, I was fortunate to attend one of his annual flute seminars near his home in Brattleboro,
VT. It was one of the most exhilarating experiences of my life; and today I can still hear his voice in
my mind, recall the setting, the mood, the students, and Moyse way of getting you to play with
absolute accuracy and attention to the composers intentions as well as the mood and emotion of each
phrase. Although by this time late in his life he did not perform for the class much, he was able to
convey his ideas and ideals very well in words.
Fortunately, I took copious notes about individual pieces that were played, and on the scores of his
etudes and exercises to preserve, as best I could, how Moyse described a piece, his advice on tone,
technique, phrasing and interpretation, his stories of his career as player and teacher, and the way he
was able to come up with just the right image expressing something or describing what he wanted to
you do. His English was still strongly accented with a musical French inflection which sometimes
made it difficult to hear or apprehend what he said. At times, I was fortunate to sit next to a pupil who
spoke French who could translate when Moyse used a French word or phrase I did not know. I suspect
that everyone at the class came away with their own impression and version of what he said; the
wording is probably not exact, but here is what I heard and captured on paper:
On Tone:
You must try all possibilities for finding the proper center and focus of the tone. Like an Ant
moving a heavy object from his path: Determined and Patient.
Lips unfocused? Experiment! They must be soft like a cushion on a chair, comfortable,
pleasurable.
The flute tone escapes like a fish In your hand------Dont have a Fish Tone!
Climate influences mood, style, air, and lips. Put the Sun in your tone: Red, rich, colourful.
Place the Tonedont put it. Place it carefully like a fine piece of crystal on a table. [French -
Pos.]
Dont play loud; Play generously. Power is not in the character of the flute, only expansiveness.
Like a piggish person on a train making more room for themselves, make room for each tone,
comfortable and relaxed.
Scoop out the tone in the low register like mayonnaise from the bottom of the jar.
Your vowel quality must be beautiful. You would never say I love you with an ugly, nasal
voice.
On Technique
Like a baby learning to walk, he can do better with the aid of a chair. Walk before you run. Try
several times.
Teaching is important toonot all will be virtuoso!
Not everyone is obliged to play the flute!
Prepare the lips and tongue for the attack.
If you bicycle too fast, you break your neck. Miss a note you still live!
Dont sit the flute hard on the lips and teeth for too longthe lips will go on strike!
Conductor Arturo Toscanini said: We live like dogs. [come un Chien.] We are here to work
on this earth. PracticeGod will help you.
Dance cheerfully: There is more energy in his feet than in a flutists brainsometimes.
In pianissimo entrances, use the trill keys like an octave key on a saxophone to make the middle
Eb, E, and F response softly and quickly.
Flick the grace notes.
Success? You can get famous playing bad notes, too1
A very young student in the class asked: What do you think of Rampals playing? After berating the
impetuous youth a good while for at his low level of proficiency even being concerned about such
matters and presuming to criticize a famous flutist, he said with an impish twinkle in his eye: Rampal
plays so fast, I dont know if he is good or if he is bad!
Debussys Syrinix: Play the rhythms exact, especially in the beginning. The composer does not
wish to collaborate with the performer. The Spirit is in the NotesPlay correctly! (Not too much
vibrato or it will be like sugar on salami.)
Moyse played many important premieres during his days in Paris of works by now famous
composers, such as Stravinsky, Debussy, and Ravel. Debussy brought Erik Satie to a performance of
La Mere. He asked Satie, What did you think of the piece? Satie replied: It was good at
twenty past ten oclock.
On music and living:
He told a story of traveling and coming to a small village, quiet, silent. Everyone was in the
fields pulling weeds and lettuce. He tried the innan old man was asleep in a chair. He roused him
for a beer. The window shutters let in a small crack of sunlight. Dust particles danced. The only
sound was the pendulum clockblump, blump..God, that is the Life!
In conversation with Jerrold Pritchard who provided the quotes after a summer masterclass with
Moyse in 1977, I asked whether I was interpreting the quotes correctly. My commentary and Jerrold
Pritchard's are both below. August 4th, 2010.
Jennifer Cluff's comments on the Moyse quotes
On Technique
Like a baby learning to walk, he can do better with the aid of a chair. Walk before you run. Try
several times.
Simplify a challenging technique into tiny steps that can be performed easily. Sometimes you actually
have to go right back to basics for a few minutes.Something about your breathing/posture/headposition/lip position may indeed be getting in the way of mastering a new technique. Master the
technique with several attempts at simpler and simpler small groups of notes. It's better to layer up the
skills rather than get frustrated by trying to do too many things at once. Even one or two notes is not
too few. Gradually expand the new skill or technique back into the chunk/phrase/piece of music. Don't
try and do too much all at once. It's human nature, but it wastes time.
Teaching is important toonot all will be virtuoso!
Many of the young performers in a masterclass dream of being virtuoso soloists and orchestral players.
But with so few chosen, the rest will become teachers, possibly. So listen carefully when following the
master's instructions. You may end up using them for teaching, rather than becoming a world-class
soloist. Go for it. You can always teach as an adjunct to performing. Most performers do.
Not everyone is obliged to play the flute!
Flute playing at the highest levels is not for everyone. Perhaps you have set your goals so high that you
can't even get half-way there. Take your time and really learn the techniques. If you think you already
know them, look at them again to make sure.
Prepare the lips and tongue for the attack.
If you only think to add the embouchure and tongue AFTER you've already played, it's too late.
Explosive air speed can cause the lips to splay, distorting the tone. Set the lips in a containing position
in preparation for the increased airspeed and volume of air that is used in tonguing.
If you bicycle too fast, you break your neck. Miss a note you still live!
Don't worry about the odd missed note. You can still practice a fast run-through just to observe where
things stand with your preparation. Even if you miss a note or two, you'll learn a lot about the lightness
of fast playing by attempting it from time to time within your practice. Fast playing often takes a
different hand sensation, finger sensation, flute balancing, and general embouchure chosen to play
many notes in a row. Don't stay at slow tempi so long that you don't find out the feel of small groups of
fast notes. Use chunks to attempt fast tempi just to discover these sensation changes.
Dont sit the flute hard on the lips and teeth for too longthe lips will go on strike!
If you use excessive pressure, pushing the flute into the lip and teeth, your lip will eventually become
numb and less active. Lighten the pressure against the chin to play flute for longer and longer without
fatigue. Make a point of lightening the pressure. High register is much easier with light chin pressure.
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A very young student in the class asked: what do you think of Rampals playing? After
berating the impetuous youth a good while for, at his low level of proficiency,even being
concerned about such matters and presuming to criticize a famous flutist, he said with an impish
twinkle in his eye: Rampal plays so fast, I dont know if he is good or if he is bad!
This remark about the speed was one of Moyse's pet peeves. He would have much preferred a
student to play more slowly and beautifully with singing tone that was at a speed you could savor and
enjoy. He really chides a couple of students who came with some big piece with flying finger in an
attempt to impress him. I recall one very pushy individual [who it turned out was not a paying member
of the class and who disappeared after the first class session) who played first in the class and started
out with a very difficult pieces with many, many 32nd note passages at a rapid tempo. He got about half
way through and realized that Moyse was not impressed by speed and brilliant playing especially if
not done perfectly--and was looking at him with amazement and disapproval. The fellow began to
falter, to make mistakes, and even shook in lips, tone and fingers from nervousness...he finally ground
to a halt. And after a moment of tense silence Moyse smiled and said: "Now we begin. And
proceeded to work on some basic issues of tone control and development of a singing style.
As you have noted, this is critical and so difficult to explain and work on with younger students
who have no sense of the harmonies, the balance of consonance and dissonance, the different in feeling
and impact of an upbeat and a downbeat, or the subtleties of type of accentuation (a legato dash with a
vibrato vs. a biting, dry short staccato vs. a sudden loud booming accent vs. a bell stroke with sudden
release of the air and a quick diminuendo.
The whole issue of the foreground vs. the background; the skeleton vs. the body, and the
shadow vs. the substance is a very complicated business to explain. With less advanced students it
often is best to just ask them to play the fundamental melody notes and the important connecting
passing notes as a means of simplifying the texture and the technical problems and letting the "grund"
and the "ursatz" differentiate themselves natural by building up the layers of complexity bit by bit.
Pickups and connecting notes of a phrase are like articles and prepositions.
This is a reference to the logical structure of most musical phrases in the common practice
period of Western music from 1600-1900. What is "Classic " about Classical music is its universality,
the commonality of a unifying language. The rhetoric of a music phrase or structure is something like
our native tongue, which we have absorbed automatically by constant hearing and practice in
listening , if not in speaking/playing it.
On a larger scale even most listeners with little or no knowledge of harmony or musical form
can easily determine just by the " feeling" whether a section of a symphony or a sonata is 1) the
statement of an idea/motive 2) a repetition or minor variation of an idea 3) a transition section that is
moving to another key or musical idea 4) a waiting section that is prolonging the end of the section or
resolving to a major cadence, 5) a closing section that is propelling the section to an end. Hearing and
understanding what is going on in a developmental section is a bit trickier but most student i have had
in my music appreciation/intro to music classes have fairly quickly learned to intuitive feel when a
section is unstable, changing, and fragmenting musical elements that have come before or overlap,
answer or echo as in a fugal section.
I suspect Moyse really meant, or should have said, here "conjunction" and "preposition" and
perhaps adverb", because they usually don't exist by themselves; they are dependent on the context and
the nouns and verbs which they direct attention to. [An eighth note "pick up gesture is rather like
saying: "And (prep) Then (adverb) We (subject) Ate (verb) The (article) Apple (noun object).] The
big building blocks that convey most of the meaning of a sentence are, of course the nouns and verbs-the subject-verb(action)-object (We-Ate-Apple) give much of the meaning of the sentence. (This is the
dominant grammatical structure in the large majority of language world -wide, though in some
languages the sequence of these elements doesn't have this order or consistency. )
Of course, musical language is not identical with speech, but has many of the same
organizational principles--at least in the western tradition of folk music and instrumental music.
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There is value in simplicity and the closeness of the familiar. my mother is not president, but i
prefer her.
Again, exaggeration for effect. Also this is placing a value on playing what you know
instinctually, have absorbed over time, or have enough experience with to make an accurate judgment
about.
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Like singers and violinists, we must stress and bring out the important notes of a phrase, or
pattern, or figure.
A fairly self-evident statement, but one often overlooked by less advanced and experienced
performers. It takes a good deal of knowledge of style periods, composer, forms, and the rhetoric of
music to be able to do the careful analysis to determine just what is most "important" in a passage.
A story of a reading session and a conversation about Chopin with two famous composers:
Ravel demanded strict rhythmic interpretation; Arthur Rubinstein was free, but he landed on his
feet smoothly. It is difficult was to decide who is rightI will ask Chopin when I get to heaven!
This is very interesting to me, because Moyse usually had very clear notions of what "he"
wanted to emphasize or bring out in a piece. He usually tried to get you to play just what was written
and believed the composer's notation was his words on the subject.
Another amusing story he told in the class was of an "dream" he had in which he got to heaven
and Debussy or Poulenc or important composer said : "Moyse, Vey you let zeez students play my
music like zeez? (--incorrectly, that is.) He didn't want to have to face those kind of questions when
he reached the pearly gates.
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Debussy said: look for the expression between the notes. '
It is how we connect two notes that gives a good deal of the stylistic information to the listener.
As flutists, we need to play equal attention to the space between notes and the manner in which they are
connected with sound, color, emphasis, smoothness or disjunct-ness. We often need to imitate the
quality of the human voice, which is very supple and elegant in the way a singer does a wide leap with
"portamento" or even a kind of glissando effect. (The Latin root of the word is "portare" or "to carry"
the sound. In French it is "port de voix" from " portour". [A person at a train station who carries your
bags or the person who opens a door for you to make the transition from inside to outside also is called
a "porter."]