Eccentric Reducers and Straight Runs of Pipe at Pump Suction - Hydrocarbon Processing - September 2010
Eccentric Reducers and Straight Runs of Pipe at Pump Suction - Hydrocarbon Processing - September 2010
Eccentricreducersandstraightrunsofpipeatpumpsuction
09.01.2010|Bloch,H.P.,HydrocarbonProcessingStaff,
Keywords:[pumps][piping][maintenance]
Questionsrelatingtoproperreducerapplicationincentrifugalpumpsuctionlinesdatebackmanydecades.Untilhisdeath(atage84,in1995),worldrenownedpumpexpertIgor
Karassikfrequentlycorrespondedwiththewriterandotherpumpusersonpumprelatedsubjects.Werarelypassupanopportunitytohighlightsomeofhisexperiencebased
comments.
Once,apumpuserreferredtoFig.1andnotedthatthiswasquitetypicalofillustrationsfoundinmanytextbooks.Inessence,Fig.1indicatesthat,withasuctionlineenteringthe
pumpinthehorizontalplane,theeccentricreducerisplacedwiththeflatatthetop.Availabletextsoftengivenoindicationastowhetherthepumpagecamefromaboveorbelowthe
pump.
Fig.1.Illustrationofeccentricreducermountingfrom
HydraulicInstituteStandards.
IgorKarassikagreedthat,ifthesupplysourcewasfromabovethepump,theeccentricreducershouldbeinstalledwiththeflat(horizontal)surfaceatthebottom.Entrainedvapor
bubblescouldthenmigratebackintothesourceinsteadofstayingnearthepumpsuction.Ifthepumpsuctionpipingenteredafteralonghorizontalrunorfrombelowthepump,
theflatoftheeccentricreducershouldbeatthetop.1
Still,inmanyoldertextsithasbeenassumedthatthepumpagesourceoriginatedatalevelbelowthepumpsuctionnozzle.KarassikremindedusthatolderHydraulicInstitute
Standardscommentedonthesuctionpipeslope:
...Anyhighpointinthesuctionpipewillbecomefilledwithairandthuspreventproperoperationofthepump.Astraighttaperreducershouldnotbeusedinahorizontalsuction
lineasanairpocketisformedinthetopofthereducerandthepipe.Aneccentricreducershouldbeusedinstead.
Thisinstructionappliesregardlessofwherethepumpageoriginates.Dependingontheparticularsofaninstallation,trappedvaporscanreducetheeffectivesuctionlinecross
sectionalarea.Shouldthatbethecase,flowvelocitieswouldtendtobehigherthananticipated.Higherfrictionlosseswouldoccurandpumpperformancewouldbeadversely
affected.
Inthecaseofaliquidsourceabovethepumpsuction,andparticularlywherethesuctionlineconsistsofaneccentricreducerfollowedbyanelbowturnedverticallyupwardanda
verticalpipelengthallassembledinthatsequencefromthepumpsuctionflangeupstreamitwillbemandatoryfortheeccentricreducerflatsidetobeatthebottom.Thatsaid,
Fig.2shouldclarifywhatreliabilityfocusedusersneedtoimplement.
Fig.2.Suggestedmodificationsforeccentricreducer
mountings.
Also,whenevervaporsmustbeventedagainsttheflowdirection,thelinesizeupstreamofanylowpointmustbegovernedbyanimportantcriterion.Thelinemustbeadiameter
thatwilllimitthepumpagevelocitytovaluesbelowthosewherebubbleswillrisethroughtheliquid.
Ingeneral,itcanbestatedthatwhereveralowpointexistsinasuctionline,thehorizontalpipingrunatthatpointshouldbekeptasshortaspossible.Inaproperinstallation,the
reducerflangewillthusbelocatedatthepumpsuctionnozzleandthereisusuallynostraightpipingbetweenreduceroutletandpumpnozzle.Straightpipelengthsare,however,
connectedtotheeccentricreducerinletflange.Onmostpumps,oneusuallygetsawaywithfivediametersofstraightlengthnexttothereducer.Inthecaseofcertainunspecified
velocitiesandotherinteractingvariables(e.g.,viscosity,NPSHmargin,pumpstyle,etc.),itmightbewisetoinstallasmanyas10diametersofstraightlengthnexttothereducer
inletflange.Thetwodifferentrulesofthumbexplainseeminginconsistenciesintheliterature,whereboththe5and10Drulescanbefound.HP
LITERATURECITED
1 Karassik,IgorJ.,CentrifugalPumpClinic,2ndEd.,MarcelDekker,Inc.,1989.
Theauthor
HeinzP.BlochisHPsEquipment/ReliabilityEditor.Theauthorof17textbooksandover470papersorarticles,headvisesprocessplantsworldwideonreliabilityimprovement
andmaintenancecostreductionopportunities.HiscoauthoredBloch/Budristext,PumpUsersHandbook,iscomprehensiveandverywidelyused.Findthe2ndeditionunder
[email protected].
DharmendraPatel
06.18.2015
Asperliteraturecited,positionofflatlineofeccentricreducerdependsonnatureoffluidhandled!Thevaporshandleneartodewpointby
Centri.MCsequipedwithflat(horizontal)surfaceatTOPwhereasfluidhandlesneartobubblepointequipedwithflatsurfaceatBOTTOM!The
Centri.MCstobeinterpretedasBLOWERorPUMPasperfluidapplication!
amalraj
06.11.2015
whatistheclearanceofeccentric&concentricforsuctionanddischargepiperouting?
rhenomaestrado
05.28.2015
iwanttoseetheimagesofareducerlikeeccentric
rhenomaestrado
05.28.2015
whyuseeccentricreducerinpumpsuctionline?
LalitKumar
05.04.2015
Wanttoknowhowtomanufactureeccentricreducerorproductionprocess.Andformulatocalculatelayoutofmaterialrequired
Antony
01.28.2015
Thisarticleisreallyniceanditclearssomemyth.
Formoredetailaboutpumppipingat
http://pipinginfo.blogspot.ca/2011/02/pumppipinglayoutdesignguidelines.html
ali
06.06.2014
whyuseeccentricreducerinpumpsuctionline
ManishJoshi
05.19.2014
SomeoftheEPCsusingastandardwheretheyuseecentricreduceratPumpsuctionwithflatsidealwaysatthetop.Veryvaluablereferencetoask
themtobeflexiblewiththeirstandardifthepumpageisfromabovethepump.
Thanksforbringingthisclarity!!
susheel
05.12.2014
Eccentricareplacedflatsidedowninline.
pipingdesigners.com
03.25.2014
Greatarticle...IhavearguedthispointwithengineerswhoINSISTthatareducershallbeplacedflatsideup,regardlessofthesourceofthe
pumpage.
ConsiderthisarticleBOOKMARKED!
IknowI'llbepullingitoutforreference.
Abdul
03.14.2014
Canweuseeccentricreducerinsteadofconcentricreducerifwedowhatwillbetheeffectisthereanydisadvantage?...Cozoneofthefitterhadused
eccentricinsteadofconcentricinPSVconnection.UppersideBigDiaLowersideSmallDia
Pleasesuggest
iwanttoknowthattheuseofconcentricandeccentricreducer.
01.08.2014
PradipSinha
01.08.2014
wehave8noshighpressurepump(capacity156m3/hr,max.pressure15kg/cm2)withasinglesuctionheader.
So,everymonthoneofthempumpshaftisbeingdamaged.
Iwantsolution.
AbidBhatti
11.06.2013
Thanksforveryhelpfullarticle.
Mohamedmetawa
08.25.2013
thanksalot.
varun
06.13.2013
AstowhytheeccentricreducershouldbemountedwithflatbottomatbottomforpumpageSourceabovepumpsuctionisstillveryunclearto
me..Kindlyelaboratethesame
akshay
01.05.2013
Dear,
whatbenefitsofeccentricreducerwith1",2"pipeatsuctionofCFpump?alsowhichtypeofmaterialservice¶meterrequiredinpump
(Viscocity,spe.gravity)aremoresuitableforeccentricreducer?
Mr.Piper007
08.30.2012
isthereanypossibilitythatconcentricreducersbeusedonhorizontallinepiping?
mojtabajavan
06.11.2012
tanksforthispaper.
www.mojtabajavan.ir
CHARLES
02.09.2012
Thanxforyourinfo.Nowiknow.
Regards
Shankar
12.10.2011
Whyshouldprovidetheeccentricreducerinthepumpsuctionandwhynotprovideconcentricreducer????......ifanyspecialpurposeofprovidingthe
eccentric????......plsgivesuggestion.....
02.28.2011
AstowhytheeccentricreducershouldbemountedwithflatbottomatbottomforpumpageSourceabovepumpsuctionisstillveryunclearto
me..Kindlyelaboratethesame.
Rgds
Anirban
DearSir,
09.23.2010
Pleasealsoincludesomeguidelinefor
(1)straightlengthrequirementforvarioustypesofPumpsi.e.OH2/BB1/BB2/MultistagePumpsandfortypeofSuctioni.e.single/double
suction
(2)IfduetoLayoutconstraincanwegofor3Dstratghtlengthforsuction
Waitngforyourreply
Thanks,
Kiran
09.21.2010
ThankGodyouclarified.Thereareinnumerablereferences&bookspropagatingtheincorrectreducerconnectionAndtheremustbemillionsof
incorrectinstallations.Iasaprojectman(nonMech.)andgoingbybasicprincipalshadarguedwithPumpspecialistsoverthisanomalywhena
pumpwasmisbehavingbutwasshownthetextbook.
IhadthepriviledgetoattendapumpingproblemsclassledbyIgorKarrasik.Istillhavethecoursenotesandhaveusedthemforover30+years.
09.20.2010
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