The CI discusses their history working in car sales and issues with former employers. They offer to help set up drug buys at AutoFair in Nashua to catch employees selling drugs. The CI admits to knowing George Psihogios personally and claims Psihogios is involved in drug sales at the dealership and with partners like Dick Anagnost. The CI expresses a desire to get revenge against past employers for wronging them.
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The CI discusses their history working in car sales and issues with former employers. They offer to help set up drug buys at AutoFair in Nashua to catch employees selling drugs. The CI admits to knowing George Psihogios personally and claims Psihogios is involved in drug sales at the dealership and with partners like Dick Anagnost. The CI expresses a desire to get revenge against past employers for wronging them.
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1 AUDIO OF CI TALKING TO MIKE ABOUT BEING ASKED TO MURDER HIM BY BILL SHAHEEN
2 AND HIS CLIENTS.
3 4 CI: Lacroix? You forgot to mention that shitbag. That shitbag is the biggest shitbag there is. I was the #1 Honda salesman 5 in the United States of America globally. I worked for Auto Sales for fucking 7 years. I just left 3 months ago. I was 6 making a half a million dollars plus, a year. And that Jason Lacroix stuck it up my ass so bad that I quit. Cuz You know 7 why? Because he goes around and portrays, he porI could tell shit about these dirtbag motherfuckers how they fuck 8 hookers fucked.Id get hookers for them all the time. And the reason whyI buried this guy Lacroix. He went and took 9 all my plaques down off the wall *when I quit because I wanted to better myself because this guy walks around like hes 10 fucking God because hes from Bedford New Hampshire hes got money. Well Im from Lowell and dont have money 11 and I like to end people that think theyre God. And I told him that, I said buddy you dont want to play with me. You 12 think cuz you got money? Money aint shit motherfucker. It aint nothing. I quit, I left here respectfully. you took my 13 plaques and threw them in the fucking garbage? So I went online and said guys if you think this Jason Lacroix guy whos 14 the half owner of Honda is a good man, he fucking cheated on his wife and got caught. Hes got 2 small children. Oh I 15 buried him, ruined him. Then they callwere gonna sue you. I go sue me all you want, Ill have 5 guys up at the 16 courthouse with baseball bats bashing your fucking head in. I dont give a fuck. Sue me. I been to jail. Do whatever the 17 fuck you gotta do. I dont care. So Isomebody put that on my facebook yesterday about you. Im like Im not gonna 18 watch this. You gotta watch this. Im like, wait a minute. This *** (was at Jared Fondas) Buddy, do your homework on 19 that shitbag. Ill fuckgive a sh.fucking coke dealing, perk dealing fucking junky scumbag piece of shit there is. Ahh 20 Jared Fondas is the biggest piece of shit there is. George Psihogios is the biggest fucking con fraud drug addict scumbag 21 loser there is. 22 23 Mike: I was told hes making 4 million bucks a year. 24 25 CI: $4 million? $4 million? $4 million is nothing. I was making fucking $700,000. One of my friend was making 1.2, He was 26 making a lot more than $4 million, do the math..hey but the thing I wanted to tell you is this..hey, you really want to 27 get them good? you really want to get these motherfuckers good?? 28 29 Mike: Yes. 30 31 CI: ok, ok listen, youre gonna love me. I want nothing for this, I dont want money.I dont want fucking anything. I just 32 dont like fucking scumbags. Ok, you go into buy, let me tell you something. I am the fucking master of the fucking car 33 business. The master. Ask anybody. Anybody. Whos the best of the best theyll say.**** When you go to buy a car, 34 OK, lets take Mike Gillwell, it wouldnt happen to Mike Gill, because hes obviously a smart guy. But 90% of the 35 people, especially in the Manchester area, lets just say are not that bright. Do you know how many people from that 36 fucking store, especially Nashua, are driving cars, unregistered, uninsured, illegally, they sign contracts, which whatever 37 its not the end of the world, but its still illegal. Heres the best one, I could give you names of about 100 people, that if 38 you pulled their paperwork that they do whats called stuffing, which is totally illegal. In other words, lets say Mike Gill 39 is a stiff. Hes a 550 card scrub (?). Mike Gills got 5 grand down. They get a bank to approve Mike Gill. Mike Gill gets 40 approved, they make 3 grand in the front end of the deal, and the back end of the deal is finance (inaudible) they stuff 41 every motherfucking thing they can in there which is so illegal. Extended warranty, Gap insurance, life and disability, and 42 they dont tell you. They say yep yep sign here, sign here sign here. You know how illegal that is? You know how illegal 43 that is? 44 45 MIKE: You know, Ive had people, some of the witnesses that I had coming in, salesmen referred to a little of the same 46 thing that youre talking about but they were also saying people were going in without drivers licenses, cant drive, and 47 they were selling them cars. 48 49 CI: listen, a lot of things you dont know Mr. Gill is first of all, every document has to be locked up. Theres nothing 50 locked up. Theres 20Im teling you, if the Attorney Generals wanted to make a lot of money, hire me to be the biggest 51 cocksucking motherfucker there is, Ill go in and shut them down in 3 seconds. Oh you got a P&S with Mike Gills 52 (inaudible) on that? Theres 25 grand. Oh you have finance door thats opened & unlocked? Oh, theres 25 grand. Oh 53 Rich Polino your finance manager, didnt he go to federal prison? Oh Randy Sylvester your used car manager didnt he go 54 to federal prison for (inaudible) for drug trafficking? Theyre a bunch of shitbags, theyre shitbags 55 56 Mike: Well thats the thing the the guys Im saying theyre selling drugs on the lot in Nashua. 57 58 CI: I know that, theyre selling everywhere. I can do a buy for you in 30 seconds. 59 60 Mike: the thing with this General manager there, whats his name again? Psihogios. 61 62 Ci: hes not the General Manager, hes the VP. 63 64 Mike: how about thishave you heard of.does he work with Anagnost. Have you seen Anagnost and know a 65 connection? 66 67 CI: ok, heres the deal. The only thing you said that was wrong was that you said George was a NH boy. Hes not. Hes 68 from NY 69 70 Mike: no, I know. I knew Hes from ny but lives in Bedford 71 72 CI: George is in bed with Dick Anagnost and Jarod Fondas, ok. Jarod Fondas aint got a pot to piss in. he aint got a pot to 73 piss in. Hes a raging drug addict scumbag loser con artist. 74 75 Mike I was told the same thing 76 77 CI: ok and this is the truth. Hes a loser con artist drug scumbag. I could walk into AutoFair Nashua right now (inaudible) I 78 can buy perks, I can buy heroin I can buy whatever the fuck you want. And you know who knows it? George Psihogios 79 you know why? He gets a piece of it. 80 81 Mike: I know. 82 83 CI: Me personally? Me personally? I gotta walk away to tell you this. I have been in his house smoking cocaine. 84 85 Mike: Who? Psihogios? 86 87 CI: Yeah. I been in his house. Im a street guy. I went to jail. I used to hurt people for a living. And you know whats 88 funny? Long time ago when youI dont get involved in politics. They want me to hurt you. Im like Im not fucking doing 89 that. Thats new Hampshire You had gotten arrested or something and someones like hey listen, how much to fucking 90 kinda make this guy go away? Im like Im all set. Im all set. I got out of jail a long time ago 91 92 Mike: They tried to kill me 3 times. 93 94 CI: Yeah, theyre a bunch of idiots 95 96 Mike: 3 times. Once in Jail 97 98 CI: As far as Andy Crews, the only thing I can tell you about him.i really cant tell you anything. I truly honestly 99 100 Mike: You know what it is, hes the stiff. Hes the guy. Psyhogios is the guy with Anagnost.. 101 102 CI Yeah 103 104 Mike: thats why theyre.hes the front man. This guy went from a bankruptcy on another lot in St. louis that came up 105 here to be the partners. It was Anagnost. Do you know if anagnost washave you seen him at AutoFair or know that 106 hes a partner 107 108 CI: Yeah well I can.well lets put it this way, youre talking about Dick, right? 109 110 MIKE: Yeah 111 112 CI: Ok, I dont know him personally, but Ill tell you this. Hes 100% involved with these guys. Ill tell you why. Because 113 the guy that runshe was the General sales manager for the Honda store. His name is Derek Sanders (inaudible), his 114 wife is Dick Anagnotss personal assistant. Ok. I know for a fact. For a fact. That that place between Nashuas the worst, 115 honda#2 Fords #3. Hyundai is just a bunch of shitbags they dont even know anybody. But that Nashua store Jarod 116 Fondas & George its just a matter of time before they go to jail, or its just a matter of time before somebody 117 likewalks in there and says hey, the dope you sold me is bad and pulls out a fucking machine gun and starts shooting 118 everybody. So youre not dealing with fucking lowlifethose guys you posted, those kidsI know all of them. Theyre all 119 fucking lowlife user scumbags. I looked right at George Psihogios, I looked right at him, hes afraid of me, deathly afraid 120 of me, and I was his #1 man. I was his fucking right hand man. I sold more cars in most stores. And when theywhen 121 Jason Lacroix fucked me.and I said you cheated on your wife? Like theres a lot of things Ive done. I stabbed people, I 122 robbed people, Ive done home invasions, Ive done bad thingsI dont cheat on my wife. My wife is been the love of my 123 life, my wife is the reason why Im alive. So I take that real serious. I said you have (me over?) your house, and youve 124 been fucking this other lady. He goes, its none of your business. I go youre right. It really is none of my business. 125 However, I cant work for you. Why? Cuz I cant. I cant give you my money knowing that youre hurting those 2 little 126 kids. I cant. I was away from my daughter for 9 years Mr. Gill. 9 fucking years. Ok. These people, theyre scumbags. So I 127 left like a man (inaudible) 128 129 Mike: You know, a lot of people.I talked to some of the people that left, they go thruwhat happened with one 130 individual, he they cant work there because theyre afraid of the people selling drugs. And when they go to Crews, 131 Crews turns around and lets them go, and then they write them a letter if they say anything or do anything, hell sue 132 them. 133 134 CI: Why do you think he wrote up.why do you think he (inaudible) House of Hopes for Humanity bullshit thing. 135 136 MIKE: Yeah 137 138 CI: Thats why he did that, because of you, you know that right? 139 140 MIKE: I do. I figured as much 141 142 CI: His wife did that because of you. You think they really care about helping people? Theyre hurting people. 143 144 MIKE: Right 145 146 CI: He may not be hurting people directly, Andy Crews, cuz me personally, I dont have anything bad to say about him 147 because (inaudible) 148 149 Mike: Hes laundering the drugs. Do you see, you know that financing youre seeingthat you were talking about? Who 150 do you think is laying out the money? The drug dealers. Thats the Anagnost thing. Thats why theyre in the credit 151 unions. Thats whyI bet you heard of Primary Bank. 152 153 Of course. 154 155 Mike: Thats their bank. I bet youve done some business with Granite State Credit Union, right? 156 157 CI: A million, a million.you know what they do? Here, heres another thing ok. You really want to stick it up their ass? 158 159 Mike: Id would like to. 160 161 CI: Oh my God, if you and I sat down and had fucking dinner, youd love me. And Ill even pay for fucking dinner, I dont 162 need your money. Heres the thing. Jarod Fondas is the most crooked piece of shit there is. Hes from Vegas. Ok. Ok, Im 163 a big time bookie, down here, thats what I do, in Massachusetts, Im from Lowell. Ive been sports betting for fucking 20 164 years. I run about a million dollars a week, Im (inaudible) Carmen Dinunzio who runs the mob in Boston, hes my backer. 165 Ok, thats where I really make my money. Jarod wants to start betting. So does George Psihogios. I said guys listen to 166 me, this is not me youre dealing with. The guys that are behind me are no fucking joke. Carmen Dinunzio, Peter lamone, 167 Vinny the Animal Ferrara, these guys are real deals. These are guys I was in prison with, I know they trust me. This is not 168 like they take $500 bets, thats not it. This is $200,000 bets. Fondas gets in, wants in wants a $15,000 limit. Carmen says 169 to me, Jamie, I dont like this. (inaudible) Im just saying I dont want to have to fucking shake somebody for $15,000, its 170 a little bit of money but Psihogios starts betting thru me. Losing $50 grand a game on fucking basketball, 50 gs a 171 game. Now I get 5%. Big fucking deal, right? Big deal. Big deal. I get 5% of the fucking win, big deal. Well then he starts 172 hitting. Winning, hitting, losingwhatever. Then all of a sudden he stops cold turkey. Stops cold turkey. Which is 173 common in the betting world. You dont say nothing. Pulls me up into his office. Hey whats up kid, you want to go to a 174 game tonight, me, you, Jarod (inaudible). Now I didnt really chill with those guys too much, because I dont like the 175 politics bullshit. I said yeah yeah, Ill come down. So we go down. We go down to Boston. And I watch him and Jarod 176 start doing a bunch of coke and (inaudible). Whatever, big fucking deal. I dont care. Whatever. Really? Its not the end 177 of the world for me. Then they start talking. Jarod, the only fucking reason he has that GeneralI dont know if you know 178 what a General manager normally gets paid. But a general manager in a good store can make upwards of a million 179 dollars a year. Most. Oh yeah oh yeah. The GM of ford probably makes 800, I know for a fact the GM of Honda a million 180 5. Mr. Gill, do the math. Do the fucking math. Theyre doing 400 cars a month at $40,000 a car thats 1.6 million. Thats 181 just in fucking sales. Thats just sales. Theyre making 3-4 million a month. And theyre fucking everybody in every way 182 they can. Yknow, but a lot of these people on the roadI could throw you a few names, that if you said, Hey ahh, let me 183 ask you a question. Do you know what youre driving around with? That you paid $3,200 for extended warranty that if 184 you didntI didnt know I had that. Do you know how many times they put that shit in the deal, Richard Polino is the 185 biggest scumbag in the world, hes director of finance. They put that in the deal, these poor fucking people dont know, 186 they go out and their car gets ruined and they pay for their car little did they know they had extended warranty. Thats a 187 fucking crime. Thats a crime. That is fucking just bullshit. 188 189 MIKE: See, see thats where Crews is. Crews is the cover. And the money that theyre doing they hidingwhen all this 190 millions are made in heroin where theyre selling the fentanyl, theyre part of the relations with the hospital. Thats why 191 all the fentanyl was dumping. What happened is, is that they have the connections with the credit unions and the banks 192 and they do the financing on these cars with their own money, thats how they launder the drug money. 193 194 CI: They lie on their creditThey constantly lie on their credit applications. Lets say a girl comes in, ok. Lets say a young 195 lady comes in thats a bartender. Andjust so you know, what I do now is I got my own company, you can go look it up 196 ComeSeeJamie.com, check it out while youre talking to me. So I went and contracted with all the dealerships, and I still 197 sell cars but Ipeople come to me, because I have a huge base, and I go get their cars for them. And if theyre going to 198 buy a set of warranties, I disclose everything to them. I do it the right way. Yes, absolutely. Now, lets say a young woman 199 24 years old comes in to buy a Honda. She wants to lease a little Honda Accord. Well, lets say shes a bartender. You 200 and I both know bartenders cant prove their income. Ok. 99% of banks want proof of income. Well isnt it funny that 201 when Mary Jones got called over to Granite State Credit Union she worked fordont be surprised if she works for 202 fucking Mike Gill Inc. making $65,000 a year that says they waived proof of income. Theyre a bunch of fucking liars. If 203 you really want to get them, I dont think the drugs is the way because theyre too slick with the drugs. Like I know the 204 drugs are (inaudible) like if you want to do it, I wouldnt never be involved, but if you wanted to do a set up where 205 theres a big amount of fucking drugs sold there, I could do it. But I think if you want to get them, get them on being 206 deceitful pieces of fucking shit. And you know what? You can even use me, Ill stick it right up their cunt. I dont give a 207 fuck, they dont scare me one bit. I told George Psihogios, youre supposed to be a tough guy right? I go, broIll let you 208 punch me in the face 3 times. I go 3 times. I go, Ill suck your dick if I dont bite your fucking ears off in the fight. I went to 209 jail for mayhem, I bit a kids nose completely off, completely off. Hes like, I dont want any problems, I dont want any 210 problems. I said, of course you dont. 211 212 MIKe: They have a strong arm. Do you know this guy Kimbas. 213 214 CI: Ill kill him. 215 216 MIKE: But do you know thats kinda the guy theyll send. 217 218 CI: Hes a pussy, hes a pussy. You want to know who the real strong arm is? Ill tell ya. My strong arm. Hes the most 219 dangerous human being up in that area. His name is Eric LaBarge. He has nothing to do with them. They call him LB. Hes 220 the muscle for the Hells Angels. He is my right hand man. Me and him walk into a place, I dont give a fuck who you are, 221 you aint fucking withplease. You could bring the 10 toughest guys you know, they aint gonna fuck with him. I can tell 222 you right now. That is muscle. Im talking real muscle. Hell go in and wipe your children out if he has to. He dont give a 223 fuck. (inaudible) Lets put it this way, Jarod Fondas owed me $15 grand. He owed me $15 grand. I had to chase him. 224 Carmen said, you better get my money. I called my buddy Eric LaBarge, I go LB I go look, I go a little puke up in the 225 Nashua store owes me money. You know what he did? He walked up to the store, all you gotta do is look at him, Ill send 226 you a picture of him, LB walks up and goes, hey whats up, hes like Im real busy. He shuts the door and says you owe 227 $25,000. Nah, I owe $15. He goes no, you owe them $15. You owe me 10 first. Im not paying you 10. Then he pulled out 228 pictures of his kids and says, see this little girl right here. And the kids like, dont do that. He goes no nohe goes, Im 229 going to cut her fucking head off with a chainsaw. And let me tell you something, he wasnt kidding. He was not playing. 230 So he says if you dont have my money in 48 hours, your daughter is dead. You can go tell the cops too, cuz once you tell 231 the cops, the cops are going to tell me, and Im gonna get your wife. That was it, he paid. That was my last run in with 232 Jarod. Hes like, oh those guys are crazy. 233 234 MIKE. See thats the thing with the cops, do you know how many people have gone to the cops? 235 236 CI: Yeah 237 238 MIKE: So you know theyre corrupt. 239 240 CI: Theyre the most corrupt people on the planet. Theyre pond scum pieces of shit there is. Theyre the lowest form of 241 humanity. 242 243 MIKE: I know. I fight with them all the time. 244 245 CI: The lowest form of humanity 246 247 MIKE: Every time I go to press it, theyre the ones that I have to deal with because theyre covering for these bastards. 248 249 CI: Yeah, it makes youif I were you, and this isif you wanted to meet me in person, I would be more than happy to. I 250 would love for you to go on my facebook page. Do you have your own facebook page? 251 252 MIKE: Yeah, ahh I have. 253 254 CI: Alright. I want you to see whohold on for one second Mr. Gill, alright what do I look under to find you sir? 255 256 MIKE: Ah, just Mike Gill on Facebook, just Mike Gill. If you go to State of Corruption, youll see it goes Mike Gill or State 257 of Corruption. Just private message me. 258 259 CI: People say youre crazy, Im like SWEET. Yknow whats funny, Im a lot like you Mike. A lot of people say Im nuts, but 260 I dont (inaudible) telling it like it is. 261 262 MIKE: Listen, I had the largest mortgage company in the United States. And youdo you do horse racing bets? 263 264 CI: Of course. 265 266 MIKE: Did you know that I was the world champion that won more races than anybody in history for horse racing? 267 268 CI: Were you really? 269 270 MIKE: Take a look at the books. I am the world record holder of won races. 271 272 CI: WOW 273 274 MIKE: I had stables running across the world. 275 276 CI: Ill tell you though (inaudible) I know a couple of guys, this one kid Bill Abernathy, good kid. His brother is a US 277 Marshal. Theyre good guys. They fucking cleaned me on the ponys. And I like it. These guys know their shit. They know 278 what the horses are (inaudible) its crazy. 279 280 MIKE: Yeah well thats because a lot of the races are fixed. And thats who gets that information. Listen, I had to deal 281 with those bastards on that end too. 282 283 CI: Yeah, I got to tell you. I like your style. I think its (inaudible). You remind me a lot of me. I just want to find your 284 facebook. (inaudible). So I think once you see this, see how I bash them. You know.Ok Mike the first.(irrelevant) 285 286 MIKE: I think its under Michael Gill. 287 288 CI: Ill tell ya, if they ever know that me and you are buddies, they will lose it. 289 290 MIKE: Oh, Id like to talk. 291 292 CI: Matt Connerton? You two are friends, does that sound familiar. 293 294 MIKE: Matt Connerson? 295 296 Ci: Connerton. 297 298 MIKE: Yes 299 300 CI: Ok, its says Michael Gill, (inaudible) Matt Connerton and Joseph Metherall and I just want to see if this is 301 you(inaudible) at my friends house, call Agent Steve Rand, Audra. 302 303 MIKE: Yes.
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