Rose Petals: Vol 1
Rose Petals: Vol 1
2011
Saipatham Publications
SHIRDI CHENNAI HYDERABAD
Title: Rose Petals 2011
Selections from Satsangs with Sri Babuji
Edited by: Ram Brown Crowell, Alison Williams
Layout & Design by: Robyn Aruna Almaleh
Edition: First Edition, Guru Purnima 2012
Published by: Saipatham Publications
Saipatham, Shirdi – 423109
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Copyright © 2012 Saibaba Foundation
ISBN: 978-81-88560-08-0
Processing: Sai Mudra, Shirdi
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To Sai Baba of Shirdi
who gave us Guruji
If you’re not able to walk, Baba will
carry you. He’ ll give you food, he’ ll give
you water, and if you’re sick, he’ ll give
you medicine. He says, “Don’t worry
about anything – I’ ll take you to the
destination!” To me, Baba fulfils my
concept of a Satguru, not only in an
abstract, mystical sense, but practically
also, right from the simple thing of getting
a berth on the train, up to getting the
final experience.
– Sri Babuji
Contents
Acknowledgements xi
Notes on Text and Sources xiii
Introduction xv
1 The Satguru 3
2 Focus on the Joy 9
3 “My Samadhi Will Answer” 15
4 Living One Life 23
5 Meditation 31
6 The Unique Mahima of Shirdi Sai Baba 41
7 Love and Devotion 51
8 Two Paise: Nishtha and Saburi 59
9 Concretizing Fulfilment 67
10 Guruji’s Baba 75
11 Expression of Love 87
12 Namaskar 97
Appendix of Sources 105
Glossary 109
Acknowledgements
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All of us who have contributed to Rose Petals feel
privileged to have had this opportunity to offer a
small token of gratitude for all we have been given
so freely by Guruji, who accepted nothing from us
in return except our imperfect love and devotion.
How fortunate we are to have known him, and to
have benefited from his wisdom and grace! Our
wish is that, with the publication of this small
book, others may also share in that grace, and taste
the incomparable joy of being in the presence of an
authentic, enlightened Master.
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Note on Text and Sources
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Introduction
The English Satsangs of Sri Sarath Babuji
When the charismatic south Indian saint and
Satguru, Sri Sainathuni Sarath Babuji, known
affectionately as “Guruji”, took mahasamadhi on
13th November, 2010, at the young age of 56, his
devotees around the world mourned his untimely
loss. The adored and beloved figure who had so
dominated their lives by the purity of his love
and peerless devotion to his Satgurudeva, the
great Sai Baba of Shirdi (d.1918), was no more
in his mortal frame. It seemed impossible to
believe that his radiant spiritual presence would
not continue, so vibrant and intensely alive
had his living presence been. It was therefore
equally heartening to realize that his vardhate,
the subtle expansion of a saint’s presence
which occurs when his body dies, was already
taking place and was even then being widely felt.
At this momentous juncture, to honour Sri
Babuji’s memory and to share his priceless
teachings with devotees, it was decided to bring out
selections from his English satsangs, unpublished
up to then, in a monthly email format, each month
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The Satguru
GURUJI:
Once you have a Satguru, once you know he’s
taking care of you, even though you experience
certain difficulties along the way, it’s backed by
that sense of assurance: he is there. So the sense
of longing and your experience of suffering are
not the same as you were experiencing before
– they change. The quality of your happiness is
transformed, and even the quality of your suffering
and the quality of your desires are transformed.
Until you get that, until you get the Satguru, the
desires seem to trouble you unendingly, they seem
to be self-perpetuating, but once you get him, the
nature of the desires changes. You have desires,
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GURUJI:
What a Satguru does as a good teacher is to try
and inculcate in you the spirit of love, the spirit of
enquiry, the fire of the desire to grow, to become
mature, to know the meaning of the text of your
life. A good teacher doesn’t say it’s hopeless when a
child doesn’t understand a text – she’s only a child!
If she believes she’s a grown-up, what is the use
of a teacher? A teacher is there to teach the child,
knowing the limitations of a child. He doesn’t say
it’s hopeless, he is patient.
No enlightened teacher will tell you to be
disgusted with the world. Instead, they will slowly
inculcate something which will give you the desire
to grow, to become more and more mature, to
become an adult. Then you’ll automatically drop
your toys and start talking and interacting with
real people.
We can’t make a bud into a flower just by
expanding its petals. We must give it manure, some
water, good sunlight – all those things which help
it to become a flower. And what a Satguru does is to
give you those circumstances, some oral teaching,
some mystic experience. He provides good soil,
good manure, good water, light and air, and good
protection – a fence of satsang. By doing all these
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The Satguru
GURUJI:
The Telugu saint and poet, Vemana, said, “One
who says this world is false, that it’s an illusion, that
material life is something to be shunned, and you
must seek some reality that transcends this world...
If anybody says this he is telling lies, he’s a rogue!”
Only one who can show you that transcendental
state – if at all you call it a transcendental state –
here in this world, one who brings that state to you
here and gives it to you here – only he is the real
Satguru. If anyone says you must leave this world,
you must leave all desires, you must break all
attachments to this world, and then if you come up
to me I will give you bliss – then what is it he’s going
to give? We are here in this world, we can’t climb
a ladder, we can’t go up there, we can’t give up all
these attachments – how can we go up to him? He
must come down to us, as if from Skandashram to
the foot of the hill, and hand over that state to us
here – where we are – in this world. If we can give
up all our desires and climb up to him, what is his
use? Only he who comes down, who frees us down
here where we are – he only is the real Satguru.
Regardless of our effort, regardless of how we do
japa, or self-enquiry, or this and that, the Satguru
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GURUJI:
Who is Baba? What is Sai Baba? That is the question.
How are we to understand Sai Baba? I am saying
he’s the one who takes care of us, like a watchman,
always looking, like our eyelid guards our eye.
And he is the one who is anxiously, avidly waiting
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The Satguru
GURUJI:
Baba said, “People come to me because of rinanu-
bandha,” because of the karmic relationship, and
I see you as a part of that karmic relationship. I
take you all as Baba’s prasad, nothing else. You are
sacred to me. Whether you feel sacred or not that
is a different matter, but you are sacred to me –
because I receive you as Baba’s prasad, and he is the
one who does the good. If he does good to you and
you are happy, I also am happy.
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Focus on the Joy
GURUJI:
Focus on the joy, that is enough. FocusFocusonon the
your Joy
need and the solution which gives you joy; just the
thought of the solution will give you joy.
That is what Baba taught Das Ganu Maharaj
from the Ishavasya Upanishad when he sent him to
Kakasaheb Dixit’s house. It’s a beautiful teaching.
Das Ganu Maharaj longed for an interpretation
of the first sloka of the Ishavasya Upanishad which
had puzzled many scholars. No scholar could
satisfy him and so at last he asked Baba. Baba
simply said, “Oh, is this your question? Why do
you ask me? Go to Dixit’s house, his housemaid
will tell you.”
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GURUJI:
In Baba’s own way, a beautiful way, he explains
the exact mechanism of bliss and happiness.
Kakasaheb Dixit’s housemaid was given a new
sari. She did not even wear the sari – she kept it
in a box – but she was dancing with joy. The very
awareness that her new sari was there, in the box,
gave her such bliss that she was dancing with
joy. Why? It’s meaningless – she hasn’t even put
the sari on yet! But when she puts it on, what will
happen? Will she get more joy simply from putting
it on? No, because the joy is already there, in just
her knowing “the sari is mine, and it’s in my box”.
Just that thought is enough to give her joy, so she’s
happily dancing. That is called love, that is called
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GURUJI:
[Referring to the Satguru] Once the awareness is
there that, “Yes, he is mine, he belongs to me, I
belong to him,” that is enough. When you sit here,
whether I am upstairs and you are downstairs,
whether we are in one room or two – even if there
is a wall there – it is the same difference. I am
sitting here and you are sitting there, just in the
next room. But the wall is more important to you.
That is why Baba said, “Pull down the wall!” Just
the wall is there, that’s all. You are there, I am here.
Just like the sari of Dixit’s housemaid – I am here!
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GURUJI:
Your actual enjoyment is not dependent upon the
object of enjoyment. It is only your attitude towards
it, how you relate to the object, that gives you
happiness. That is why Dixit’s housemaid was so
happy that she was dancing with joy.
For instance, someone is looking for a job. He
needs it desperately and then one day he gets em-
ployment. He hasn’t even received his first pay, only
an e-mail notice that he’s been employed at such and
such salary, that’s all. But, he’s so-o-o happy! What
has happened to him? That simple awareness – the
possibility that a job is there and that he can get a
salary – allows him to enjoy the whole thing. Just
the very awareness makes him really happy. And
like that, not only with regard to these worldly
things, it’s the same when you meet a Satguru like
Sai Baba. It’s the very awareness that, “Yes! This
is my e-mail letter!” [Laughter] “I’ve got it!” – that
should make you happy. Even though you haven’t
got nirvana, mukti, realization or anything – still
the possibility, the promise, the clear promise that,
“Yes! I’ve got Baba!” – that should make you happy.
So let us all be like Kakasaheb Dixit’s maid – she
happily has her sari, you have got Baba, what is
there to suffer? What to worry about? Ah, happily
enjoy life, happily enjoy! Dance, dance, dance!
GURUJI:
Let us enjoy every minute, every breath. Life is a
gift to us, it is not a curse, it is not a bane. It is a gift
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Focus on the Joy
GURUJI:
Try to appreciate and enjoy the beautiful life that
Baba has given you: it is an embodiment of his
grace. I see in everybody, in each one of you, how
Baba has placed you, where he has put you, what
Baba has given you. If you want more, I will give
you more! But enjoy it, enjoy what Baba has given!
GURUJI:
Learn! Experience, enjoy and radiate the joy of
Baba! I want to see that joy. When I see that joy
I am also joyful. All your faces will be bubbling,
radiating that joy of love, the love of Baba. The
conviction that he is yours, the identity that you
are his – that royal feeling should be there. We
are all sons and daughters of Sainath Maharaj; if
he is royal, we are also royal, we are princes and
princesses! [Guruji laughs]
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“My Samadhi Will Answer!”
DEVOTEE:
Would you explain the word samadhi?
GURUJI:
Experiencing that love, that bliss or sense of
fulfilment – whatever you call it – getting fully
absorbed in it without any reflexive defense
mechanisms, that is samadhi.
DEVOTEE:
But why is Baba’s tomb also called a samadhi?
GURUJI:
The word samadhi has several meanings. The first
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“My Samadhi Will Answer”
GURUJI:
Baba was never confined to his physical body
even before 1918, because he himself said, “My
murshid (guru) has already freed me from this
body. Whoever thinks that this body is Sai Baba,
hasn’t seen Sai Baba at all.” Because he had already
been released from his body, it was already a tomb
– a small, moving, limited tomb that was capable
of interacting with a number of people. Then,
because he is so loving and he wanted to cater to
the growing needs of the people, and the devotees
need some means of interacting with him, he had
to change. So he changed his tomb – from that
“tomb” [his physical body] to the present tomb,
which is an extension of Baba’s body and a form
of it. That is why he said, “My tomb will speak, my
tomb will move, my tomb will answer,” just as his
physical body had been answering.
GURUJI:
We see Baba’s form and think that he is a Satguru,
but by what signs? Because he manifested a partic-
ular state. That state gave him the stature of a
Satguru. What is important is the stature, not the
form. That is why Baba used to say repeatedly, “I am
not this body, I am not only this form. This body is
only a means, a tomb, which manifests something.”
That state was manifested through the form of Sai
Baba because we can’t understand it unless it is
conveyed to us through a concrete channel.
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DEVOTEE:
Guruji, today is Bhagavan Ramana’s mahasamadhi.
Nowadays it is celebrated with great spirit and
joyfulness, but when he left his body fifty years
ago it can’t have been like that for the people left
behind then. So, although today is a beautiful day,
there is also a certain poignancy to it, thinking
what it must have been like for his devotees who
were left without his form that was so beloved to
them.
GURUJI:
The day when he left his body would have been a
very painful day for the devotees, no doubt about
it. But in India the anniversary of a saint’s death
is usually celebrated, not mourned, because they
know there is no death for a saint. Because of the
personal attachment that the devotees had when
their master was in the body, it was natural that
many people cried and it was a day of sorrow.
When you have a personal connection with the
saint’s physical form, it is a painful thing when it
passes away. But in the course of time, the tradition
comes in its place and they realize that it is only
the body which has gone, and they experience his
presence more and more in a different way.
As I have already told you, a saint’s death,
the so-called death, signifies for some saints the
growth of his influence and his mission. So that
day is actually celebrated, not mourned. If you
have to mourn the death of a saint then he’s not a
saint, because there is no death for a saint. That is
why such a thing is called vardhate. Vardha means
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DEVOTEE:
Guruji, when somebody dies, is it possible to know
where they go, what happens?
GURUJI:
Yes, it is possible to know.
DEVOTEE:
And how can one know this?
GURUJI:
If you know this here, if you know your soul first.
Do you know where your soul is? Do you know
really that your soul is in your body? If there,
where is it? How is it? First try to know that!
DEVOTEE:
Guruji, Baba said if you can’t meditate on me in
the form of bliss, meditate on my form. For those
of us attached to the form, could devotees feel
abandoned if their guru takes mahasamadhi? Or
will they still feel taken care of?
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GURUJI:
When I experienced bliss from Baba’s form, it was
after his mahasamadhi.
DEVOTEE:
But how would it have been if you had had the
experience of Baba’s living form as well?
GURUJI:
Then it would have been even greater, because I
would have realized that Baba was not the form
at all at the first instance itself, just by seeing him.
Because I was unfortunate to have only his picture
to look at, I had to cling onto his form for some
time. But if Baba could not give us that experience
at any instant, what would he be?
Anyway, first think about now! [Guruji laughs]
If we know now that all forms are transient, that
sooner or later any form will disappear, from this
we should know the value of form; and that form
is only a means to formlessness. That’s why I give
the example of the window: don’t look at the frame,
look at the window.
DEVOTEE:
But don’t we need to start by looking at the frame?
Isn’t that the only way for most of us?
GURUJI:
First it starts with the frame – but don’t get stuck
there. In order not to get stuck there, just look
through the window more and more. Be focused
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DEVOTEE:
In spirituality, why is formlessness usually given
more importance than form?
GURUJI:
No reason. Form is just as important and just as
valuable. Even now form is so important to me –
who said it isn’t? Even now I worship Baba and I
think of Baba’s form. I don’t have any problem with
form, or with formlessness! [Guruji laughs]
DEVOTEE:
But we always hear that we have to transcend form
and go beyond to formlessness.
GURUJI:
Baba’s form is a form, but the bliss which that form
gives is always formless. What form will you give
to bliss? Both are there at the same time. When
you look at Baba, what you experience is the form
which gives bliss, which is formless. Baba also said
the same thing – “Meditate on me as bliss. If you
can’t do it look at my form.” But if you look at the
form what happens is you start to meditate on
bliss again! [Guruji laughs] That is Baba!
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Living One Life
DEVOTEE:
Are the spiritual life and worldly life separate?
How can we balance them?
GURUJI:
In fact, there are not two lives. You live only one life.
What determines whether it is spiritual or worldly
depends upon your object, the goal, and the source
from which you derive your fulfilment. If you
derive your fulfilment from a worldly object you
call it worldly life, and if you derive it from a so-
called spiritual source, you call it spiritual life. Baba
never differentiated between the two. He saw the
real source, the basis of a person’s endeavour – why
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DEVOTEE:
Guruji, how can we integrate spirituality into our
everyday life?
GURUJI:
Why do you divide life into spiritual and non-
spiritual? Why make this artificial division and
give more value to one and less to the other? Life is
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GURUJI:
As you have a pull towards the world, make it a
means to achieve your spiritual end. Then all the
world will become a means to that.
Usually, for a seeker, the world is considered an
obstacle, an enemy, a nightmare, whereas to a Sai
devotee it is a tool to draw him nearer and nearer
to the object of his love. For example, when we
have an illness, what happens in many spiritual
circles is that one should not complain about it. It is
nothing to do with our sadhana or our Satguru. The
guru tells you that you are not the body. “Focus on
the Self, don’t worry about this illness!” But we are
troubled by our poor health. So we say to ourselves,
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“We are not the body,” but at the same time we are
worried about the illness and so a clash is created.
But for a Sai devotee, if he gets ill he goes to Baba
to cure him. Then once he is better he feels, “Oh,
Baba has cured me!” Even the illness, that same
body which is normally considered an obstacle,
even that becomes a means of drawing him closer
to the Satguru.
By looking at things in this way, we can make
all our life an expression of our love towards
our Satguru, a perpetual, unending ritual which
doesn’t seem to be a ritual and which breathes into
us the spirit of love.
That is what I mean by making your whole life a
part of your effort for spirituality.
GURUJI:
Baba never asked people to give up their desires,
to shun desires, “Desires are not good, they are
not spiritual,” no, he didn’t say it. He slowly
transformed these pulls into a bigger pull.
See, for example, a businessman. Once he has
come to Baba, he prays to him before making any
decision and he gets the success. So his success
and the business link him to Baba. Business is
not something which takes him away from his
Satguru. In fact, his main pull, his main desire –
money – is bringing him more and more to Baba.
Whenever he gets a contract he makes a point of
coming to Baba. If there were no contract, maybe
he wouldn’t come at all! [Guruji laughs] So it is the
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GURUJI:
Once the desire is fulfilled and the devotee knows
that their experience came through their Satguru,
the loving bond between them leads to their
transformation. It is not the fulfilment of the desire
that is the purpose; it is the transformation.
DEVOTEE:
But for the devotee, it seems in most cases that the
purpose is the fulfilment of the desire.
GURUJI:
To them it is like that. They may not be seeking any
transformation, but if Baba fulfils their desires, it is
for transformation. They may not be aware of it. It
doesn’t matter. It is enough if they know that it is
Baba who gave the experience.
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GURUJI:
We feel that something is missing but we don’t
know what it is, so we experiment – maybe this,
maybe that will give me happiness? The whole
world is experimenting, struggling for that which
is missing. The so-called spirituality is one of the
ways.
Everybody is struggling, everybody is a seeker,
everyone is on the spiritual path, as long as we are
trying for happiness. It is only the method that
differentiates the paths. Happiness is a basic need
of human nature. If it were not, spirituality would
have no meaning. For example, a person who is
striving for money, why do they want money? For
happiness. Why do they want power? Happiness.
Why do they want friends and relationships?
Happiness. There are thousands of different things.
Everybody is striving and striving and striving. The
whole world is full of that struggle and striving for
happiness. Among the millions of methods which
human beings are trying – and still inventing more
and more – we are also trying in our own way.
Maybe by trying this way we will get something, a
happiness which is not dependent on anything else,
that which the saints have spoken of.
The struggle for happiness is a human problem.
We are only responding to the human problem.
Everybody is. It is not our special problem that we
are trying to use special methods to solve. It is not
a special disease; it is a common complaint. Only
the means are different and some are branded as
spiritual and some are branded as worldly, but I
am talking about the basic struggle of all beings.
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Meditation
GURUJI:
Meditation is an expression and experience of
our love, of our need, of our object of love. See,
for instance, when I leave the room after satsang
you sit quietly. All the talk that normally comes to
the mind is not needed then. You’ll have absorbed
some words, some pieces from the satsang. It’s
not the intellectual theory, or the concepts, or the
teachings. The mind refuses to think; it dissolves,
it falls away. You simply sit with your eyes closed
and feel the joy inside. That experience of joy is
meditation.
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DEVOTEE:
Guruji, what is profound meditation and what role
do thoughts play in it?
GURUJI:
Profound meditation is an ecstatic experience
in which one feels that one’s vessel is full to the
brim. It is the experience of fullness by which
one is so overcome that it doesn’t matter whether
thoughts arise or not. Our attention is so held
by the experience that thoughts become totally
secondary; even if they come they have no power
to distract from the experience.
GURUJI:
The main purpose of meditation is to awaken our
emotion. Real meditation starts when our love gets
awakened. Meditation is not turning a human
being into a stone: static, stoic, indifferent, without
any thought, without emotions. Meditation is
turning a stone into a human being. If the emo-
tions are cultured and harmonized they can find
meaningful expression in life. If one emotion is
stronger, the others will naturally harmonize with
it. Meditation is not keeping the mind blank. It is
experiencing and relishing the taste of life, not
withdrawal from life, not shutting yourself away
from life. Life is so natural; if you shut yourself off
from the world, you shut yourself off from Truth
itself. And since life is something more which you are
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GURUJI:
When meditation becomes an expression of our
effort to concretize our abstract sense of fulfilment,
then alertness automatically comes, interest auto-
matically comes. When love towards our object of
love is there, one of its symptoms or by-products
is alertness. Not sitting in a morass of dullness,
watching the clock, watching the time – that is not
alertness. When interest and alertness are there,
even if you sit for two or three hours, you won’t
watch the clock.
DEVOTEE:
Guruji, when we sit for meditation should we use
any technique?
GURUJI:
Nothing! Simply sit and feel the bliss; real medi-
tation is actually experiencing the bliss. If the mind
wavers, try to focus on Baba in whatever way you
like, whether calling him by name or by thinking of
him, whatever it is. When the time comes that you
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GURUJI:
People try to control the mind by observing
thoughts, or try to stop thoughts by concentrating
on a form or concept, though both are concepts
[thoughts]. Meditating on “having no thoughts” is
still a concept and the thoughts become obstacles.
Or some want to brush aside thoughts and concen-
trate on “having a voidness”; they want to have an
insight, a vipassana. And there are other techniques:
watching the breath, and this and that.
But I always advise people to do it the other way
around, and without all these things, go with the
natural tendency of the mind. The natural tendency
of the mind is to concentrate automatically on what
you love, or on what you hate, what you don’t
like. In the second instance, this is accompanied
by displeasure, a negative feeling, a sadness, and
you are not at ease; you lose your peace of mind.
But in the first instance, you experience love and
a kind of fulfilment. So first try to catch hold of
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Meditation
GURUJI:
Always remember that the experience of expan-
sion, of vastness, is a sign of good meditation.
Even though you are focusing on something, your
experience should be one of expansion, not of
contraction or constriction. You feel expanded. That
happens when you are aware of what I said before
– the nature of the Satguru, of Baba, vast like the
Himalayas – that awareness. That gives you the
experience of vastness, of expansion. Look at the
sea: you can’t even pinpoint the horizon – your mind
expands, it goes on expanding – that is meditation.
DEVOTEE:
Guruji, what can be done if the mind doesn’t feel
bliss and can’t stay focused on Baba?
GURUJI:
Without forcing the mind, try to contemplate your
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GURUJI:
Because they love Baba so much, people like me like
to look at him, like always to think about him and
talk about him – there’s nothing they’d rather do.
They can’t do otherwise, because they want always
to be with him. For these people their love is not an
effort or a means to do anything – to be meditating,
contemplating, or doing nama. For them these are
not spiritual practices done to achieve a goal, they
are simply expressions of their love. And all the
spiritual practices should be done like that – this
is what I feel. And what you get from Baba – the
fulfilment, the final goal – is not dependent on this
directly. As though “Because you have meditated
on me for four hours, I will give you bliss” – no! It’s
not directly related to it. Because for them it’s done
simply as an expression of their love for Baba, not
as a means of getting anything; they know Baba
will give whenever they are ready to receive.
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GURUJI:
As long as we have the love, meditation will
naturally come. Then gradually everything we do
throughout the day becomes an expression of our
love, not only sitting here for one hour looking at
Baba. There are different ways of expressing that
love; meditation is one of those ways. When all
our actions are expressing our experience of love,
everything becomes part of meditation.
GURUJI:
Since you can’t sit still for twenty-four hours and
stay focused, you need something more. The body
needs some activity because there are so many
distracting pulls and patterns. The solution is
gradually to let all these patterns be channelled in
such a way that the activity we do is, in the end,
related to Baba. So while doing it we are reminded
of him and feel the satisfaction of doing it for him,
or to him, while remembering him. Then, when
the mind clears enough, just sit and experience
the happiness, for as long as you can. After some
time, again the mind starts getting disturbed.
Then again some activity is needed. By working in
this way, the hours of meditation and stillness are
prolonged until finally there is no need to get up
any more. When the need to move is gone, it doesn’t
matter whether you sit or get up, both are the same.
But here the most important thing is: many
people take care of what they do in meditation,
but they pay no attention to what they do outside
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DEVOTEE:
How do we know that we are really meditating
and not just sitting with eyes closed?
GURUJI:
You judge a tree by its fruit. What you are doing
outside your meditation will tell you – you don’t
need any other test. To see your forearm, you don’t
need a mirror. The quality of your meditation can
be seen from what you do in your daily life.
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GURUJI:
Working in the world and meditating, both become
sadhana until we reach the goal. Don’t confine
meditation to the time you sit with eyes closed,
because that is only a part of your life – your life
is not only that. Make meditation part of your life,
but make your whole life part of your meditation.
How? Baba said, “Meditate on me in the form of
bliss. If you are not capable of doing that, then
meditate on me in this form you see here.” But his
first preference was bliss, the “taste” of life, the
relish of life. When you really enjoy something
all the symptoms of meditation will come. Why
do you close your eyes when you taste something
delicious? Because you relish it and feel fully
satisfied – you are happy! What I am asking of
you is to relish the taste of life. Meditation is the
enjoyment that arises from relishing the taste of
life – that is true meditation.
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The Unique Mahima of
Shirdi Sai Baba
DEVOTEE:
In a book I read recently the author referred to Sai
Baba as a miracle worker, but others say that it is
not a correct way to describe him.
GURUJI:
They may say that Baba is a man of miracles, but he
never materialized anything. Such things he called
chamatkar, and he emphatically said, “We don’t do
chamatkar.”
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So then what did he call those superhuman acts?
GURUJI:
To him it is just like a mother caring for her child.
But if you want to call it a miracle, it’s okay. When
a baby feels hungry and milk suddenly just
materializes and flows from the mother’s breast,
is it not a miracle? As long as the child needs
the milk, it comes; and when the need is gone, it
automatically diminishes. It is a miracle that every
mother does and every child experiences, and yet
it is so natural. And Baba experiences it like that,
so naturally.
DEVOTEE:
But we don’t experience it like that, do we?
GURUJI:
That is why you call it a miracle! I call it natural
mothering. Baba is taking care of us like a loving
mother. What you call a miracle is natural mother-
ing to a Satguru like Sai Baba.
DEVOTEE:
Many miracles were seen in Baba’s life. As well
as fulfilling a person’s need, was there any other
purpose to them?
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GURUJI:
With Sai Baba almost all his miracles carry a
transforming effect on the experiencer. This is
very rare in any saint. The so-called supernatural
acts or so-called miracles that happened around
him always carried a teaching, which pushed a
transformation. You can see that in his biography,
to some extent. Just try to imagine yourself in the
place of any of the devotees who experienced a
miracle with Baba, and you will see.
In this way, Baba’s biography is his teaching.
There was no verbal teaching, no separate teaching,
in fact. Baba taught through his acts. With regards
to chamatkar they only baffle the experiencer’s mind,
but with Baba, the miracles carry a teaching. For ex-
ample, if people came for money, Baba didn’t simply
give it, or say, “Go there and you will find money,”
nor would someone come and just hand it over to
them. No, Baba would try to make it seem as if it
had simply happened naturally, but the experiencer
knew that there was more to it than that.
There was a devotee, for instance, who used to
come to Shirdi from time to time who was a big
manager in a cotton mill in Bombay. At one point
he had some trouble with the management so he
resigned and was unemployed. Almost a year
passed and he was having difficulty maintaining
himself. He was in the financial doldrums. One
day he decided, “What am I doing simply whiling
away my time in Bombay? Let’s go to Shirdi and
at least stay in Baba’s presence for two or three
months until I get another job.”
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GURUJI:
Sai “miracles” seem so natural. We receive his
kindness, mercy, protection and grace from the
people around us. When we pray to Baba – for
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GURUJI:
With Baba, if we are worried about a problem,
someone will come and show us the way; it flashes
upon us as the answer to our problem although the
person who advises us does not know that this is
the solution we were longing for.
This was Baba’s way even when he was in the
body. He would never give discourses on Vedanta,
or directly answer questions on philosophy, but
people used to ask him and he would answer in
his own way. Once when somebody asked such
a question, Baba answered, “Go and attend the
pothi.” “Pothi” means parayana, devotional reading,
and some of the devotees were sitting together
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GURUJI:
Before I went to Poondi, I was very hectically
reading all the scriptures. They all extol the efficacy
of tirthas and going to kshetras (places of pilgrim-
age, holy places) and I had a doubt: why do saints
– who are completely fulfilled and have attained
their ultimate object – why do they need to go to
tirthas? In the Puranas we see that many saints visit
tirthas, and different holy places. I wondered, what
is the need for them to do that? What more holiness
do they need? Are they in need of holiness? Or do
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DEVOTEE:
Sai Baba did not give philosophical teachings in
the way that some saints do, did he?
GURUJI:
No, no. Nobody expected such a thing from him.
The moment they went to him they saw the power,
they were aware of their helplessness, they sought
help and they got it. By getting the help they also
got the message. So every leela, every incident,
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Love and Devotion
GURUJI:
Happiness comes because of love. When you have
an object of love, thinking of your object of love
will give you the experience of love. And if at all
I tell you anything to do, it is this: when you are
unable to experience love, the only way to bring it
back and to strengthen it, is to give expression to it.
The more you express it, the more it grows, and the
more it strengthens.
Some people think, “I should simply sit and
keep my mind focused on Baba.” But how long can
you sit simply focusing, focusing, focusing? That
focusing is losing its focus! So we need to find other
ways which give us the focus. People are always
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Two Paise: Nishtha and Saburi
GURUJI:
Nishtha is one of the paise Baba asked for as
dakshina. It means paying attention, keeping our
mind on our purpose, asking ourselves, “What
do we want, where are we going, what are we
doing?” Remaining steady and devoted to our
purpose whatever comes, whether palatable or not,
whether happy or unhappy, just persevering in it,
that is nishtha. It is natural to any beggar, in fact – a
real beggar perseveres! If someone doesn’t give, or
chases him away, he won’t go. He’ll keep on asking,
“Sir, one rupee, one rupee,“ but he doesn’t go. He
sticks to his purpose, he’ll keep pursuing it. Learn
nishtha from him.
The other paisa Baba asked for was saburi. Saburi
is happily waiting, not complaining, “Oh, this is too
much, I can’t take it!” or getting disappointed and
easily frustrated, or giving up out of impatience.
Waiting cheerfully, with patience and love, that is
saburi.
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GURUJI:
The story of Siddiq Falke comes in the Sri Sai
Satcharita. He came to Baba after having done the
Hajj pilgrimage and Baba didn’t even allow him to
step into Dwarkamai. He told him he could take
darshan from a distance only and that he should not
enter Dwarkamai at all. And so Falke waited for
nine months in Shirdi.
In fact, it was a shame, wasn’t it? For a Hajji not
to enter a masjid – how he would have felt! Yet this
Hajji Falke waited for nine months and his patience
was so exemplary that at the end he used to dine
with Baba. Very few people were allowed to sit in
Dwarkamai and dine with Baba – only nine or ten –
but Siddiq Falke was chosen. This man who was so
ill-treated before – so-called ill-treatment, of course –
was so much honoured later. What was the reason?
What gave him that? His patience, his saburi. What
was the basis for his saburi? His love. “What’s the
use of my staying in Shirdi? I don’t even get the
chance to enter Dwarkamai!” He never thought
like that. He knew why Baba was making him wait,
and he waited and waited and waited, and he got
what he wanted. That is saburi.
GURUJI:
Nishtha doesn’t mean “faith”. Nishtha should ac-
tually be translated as “unflinching perseverance”.
Why unflinching? Because what “flinches” you
are your likes and dislikes, so unflinching means
na-ishta (no likes). Everybody has their own likes
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DEVOTEE:
Do nishtha and saburi mean that our relationship to
suffering changes, or that we actually experience
suffering less because now it has an underlying
purpose?
GURUJI:
It all depends on how you relate to your reason for
suffering, and to its object. For example, see the
difference between waiting at the airport for your
boss or for your Beloved. Suppose your boss is
coming and you’ve been sent to receive him. You
arrive with a name tag and you’re standing there
when an announcer says, “This flight is delayed two
hours for technical reasons.” Just see, during the
next two hours, how you suffer! You feel anxious
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GURUJI:
Na-ishta means no ishta, there’s no “my ishta”,
there’s no “your” choice or liking. Always keeping
your focus, keeping your object in view, always
mindful of why you’ve come – that is nishtha.
Always that attention, that carefulness, that focus
– that is nishtha.
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GURUJI:
Suppose our Beloved is arriving by train and we
want to be at the station to meet him. We even
arrive one hour before the scheduled time to
ensure we won’t be late. We are looking forward so
much to seeing him that we are waiting happily –
this is saburi. And while waiting, in order to be ready
to receive him, there are several things that need
to be done: we have to enquire about the platform,
check the time of arrival, find out the compartment,
then stand at the right place and be alert. Our
waiting and eagerly looking in the direction of the
expected arrival won’t make the train come sooner.
But when it comes, we are prepared, we are able
to glimpse our Beloved as soon as the train comes
in, and we are ready to receive him. All these
preparations are what sadhana is about – it is the
art of “happily waiting”, the art of readiness and
receptivity.
DEVOTEE:
In the Sri Sai Satcharita it is written that Baba’s guru
first got Baba’s head shaved and then asked him
for two paise. Does that mean that only after all his
thoughts were cleared that he was asked for nishtha
and saburi?
GURUJI:
If everything else goes, then what remains is nishtha
and saburi – total, loving attention, waiting upon
the guru. That is nishtha – saburi.
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DEVOTEE:
That’s what remains?
GURUJI:
That’s what remains. These were the only two paise
that actually remained with Baba – and even these
were to be given as dakshina!
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Concretizing Fulfilment
DEVOTEE:
Guruji, what exactly is it that causes this longing,
this desire inside us for liberation and enlighten-
ment, for seeking Baba? Where does this longing
come from?
GURUJI:
I think I explained this many times. It happens
because you feel you need something, that you
are lacking something, but you don’t know what
it is. And when you see Baba, he personifies, he
epitomizes, he gives you a concrete picture of what
you are aspiring to. You can’t explain it, you can’t
describe it, but something tells you instinctively,
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DEVOTEE:
Guruji, so many people come and prostrate to you
and seek your blessings. How do you feel when
they touch your feet?
GURUJI:
[smiling broadly] I don’t feel anything! I don’t
even think that it is to me they are doing namaskar.
Everyone has their own abstract sense of fulfil-
ment which they are constantly seeking to make
concrete. It is to that sense of fulfilment that
everyone always surrenders. Since it is so abstract
and diffuse, you do not experience it clearly, so
everyone is struggling to realize and concretize it.
For some, their sense of fulfilment is triggered
by a Satguru like Sai Baba, who stands as a concrete
symbol of their abstract ideal. To them a Satguru
is the means to their fulfilment, so as part of their
efforts they seek a Satguru and surrender to him.
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DEVOTEE:
Guruji, would you explain what you mean by
“concretization of the abstract”?
GURUJI:
Suppose you know that someone has deposited
one lakh rupees in your bank account, but you don’t
have a cheque book and you can’t withdraw it – do
you think you are rich or poor? You are rich, but
you need a cheque book in order to concretize it, to
actually get hold of the rupees. The fact that there’s
one lakh rupees on deposit is abstract; getting them
in your hand by withdrawal – that is concretization.
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GURUJI:
I will say it again: you do not surrender to a guru
or to a Satguru or a Buddha. You always surrender
only to your own sense of fulfilment. Everybody
surrenders, is already surrendered. Many people do
not know to what they have surrendered, because
their idea of what fulfils them is still so abstract, so
unclear, so confusing. But it is the surrender to
your own sense of fulfilment which is expressed,
is enacted, when you touch the feet of a Buddha,
because he stands as a concrete symbol of this
for you. Just as when I look at Sai Baba, he is the
concrete expression of my sense of fulfilment. And
because you can see your abstract ideal in something
concrete, the process of clarifying it becomes
possible; it becomes more earthly, more real. Once
we realize this is actually our own process, then all
our other doubts cease. You only surrender or “give
up” at the feet of your own life, not somebody else’s.
So I am not asking you to “give up” your life – no!
Take it! Make your whole life the path leading to
that final fulfilment! Then everything, every breath
you take, is breathing your longing for fulfilment.
GURUJI:
Everybody – every living creature – is seeking
something, some kind of fulfilment. Everybody.
There is nothing like spiritual seekers and non-
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Guruji’s Baba
DEVOTEE:
How did you come to Baba, Guruji?
GURUJI:
It’s not that I “came” to Baba. I always liked looking
at him. And whenever I looked at his photo, it was
almost as if he were alive, as if he was interacting
and responding to me – not that he was appearing
or “giving messages” – not like that! But whenever
I looked at him there was something that was so
dynamic, there was so much rapport between him
and me.
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DEVOTEE:
Would you share your first experience of Baba?
GURUJI:
First, second, third... There is nothing like that! My
experience was that when I looked at him, even
when I was a small boy, somehow I always felt at-
tracted. There was a sense of belonging. That could
be called my first experience.
I didn’t know what Baba was, I didn’t know
his name – nothing! When I was a boy there was
a photo of him in our house and I used to ask
my grandmother who he was. All the gods and
goddesses had crowns and jewels, some looked
human, some had animal faces – there were various
kinds – but he looked different from them. He
looked so human, like any ordinary person. He was
the only one among the whole pantheon that was
like that.
So I used to ask my grandmother, “Who is he?”
She didn’t know anything about Baba, but she
was a teacher and she never said, “I don’t know.”
[Laughter] Elementary school teachers never say “I
don’t know” to children! [Guruji chuckles] They’ll
give an answer to everything, whatever the ques-
tion, even about the relativity theory they’ll say
something! So when I asked, “Who is that Sai
Baba?” she said, “He’s a big Siva bhakta.”
“And what is he doing?”
In the picture, there was a a small horse and
some hills or mountains. I think those paintings
can still be seen, if you look in the old houses.
“He lives in the Himalayas and is doing tapas.”
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DEVOTEE:
At what point did you recognize Baba as your
Satguru?
GURUJI:
I didn’t “choose” Baba like that. It was not that at a
certain point I felt, “Oh, now Baba is my Satguru,
I will take him!” No! Because I have to use these
words – “my Satguru” – I talk like that, but it’s
not the feeling in my heart. If you ask me, “Who
is your Satguru?” Yes, Baba is my Satguru. That
is the word you are familiar with, so I use it. But
I don’t see it like that, because that sounds rather
formal, as if there is some underlying motive in it,
some relationship in which he wants something
from me and I have to do something, or some
principle, some philosophy, some metaphysics,
all that stuff – but I don’t have that feeling. To me
he’s my caretaker, my parent, my grandfather...
just like that.
GURUJI:
At college I was very closely associated with a
professor, my English lecturer; he was like a guru –
though not a spiritual guru – and I was almost like
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DEVOTEE:
Why? What happened?
GURUJI:
What happened was – rats! [Guruji laughs] It was
an old photo. A rat had taken the photo from the
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Guruji is referring to his guru, Master E. Bharadwaja (1938–1989).
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DEVOTEE:
Did you think it was inauspicious?
GURUJI:
Yes, it was definitely inauspicious – that was Baba’s
picture! But Baba was already there – the new big
picture. So I moved all the other pictures to one
side – because like in any normal Hindu household
there were many – and then placed the big Baba
picture there.
I used to sit in that room just looking at Baba. I
did not know any sadhanas. I did not know about
Baba. I hadn’t read his biography. I did not know he
was a Satguru and was going to help me, or that he
had powers. I knew nothing. But when I sat in front
of him, that feeling of being intensely troubled, like
having a severe migraine, lifted. So I needed to sit
more, more, more. The moment that I went away, it
started again. So I used to sit for hours and hours –
not as a sadhana, not that somebody had told me to
do it, but out of need, that is what I am saying, out
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The small town in Andhra Pradesh where Guruji’s family was living
at the time.
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DEVOTEE:
Did it happen suddenly for you? That one day you
didn’t have much to do with Baba and the next
day suddenly Baba was the object of your love,
completely, totally? Did it happen like that?
GURUJI:
Something was there which I did not know: love
for something. My mind was struggling for some-
thing. When I saw Baba I realized, “Oh, this is the
one I have been searching for.”
DEVOTEE:
Was that recognition of Baba as your object of love
enough, or was it just the beginning?
GURUJI:
It was the beginning.
DEVOTEE:
The beginning of what, Guruji?
GURUJI:
The beginning of trying to experience it in a more
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DEVOTEE:
Everyone in the world is searching for security of
some kind. For some people it’s in relationship, for
others it’s their family, or money, or whatever. I
know this may sound like an odd question, but in
my heart, I’d like to ask it: what is your security,
Guruji?
GURUJI:
Baba!
DEVOTEE:
You find all your needs met through him, in the
same way that worldly people find their security
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GURUJI:
Yes! I don’t feel the lack of anything. Baba gives
me everything. It is more than security, because
security is that which protects what we have, or
protects us from any further danger, but this is
almost a kind of a wish-fulfilling tree. It not only
protects what we have and secures us from further
impending danger, but it also fulfils our wishes.
GURUJI:
What is very important is that sense of belonging,
that experience, that remembrance, “I belong to
Baba and Baba belongs to me!” That is enough. As
long as you remember this, that is real smarana.
Smarana means “remembrance”.
DEVOTEE:
Will the belonging always be there, not dependent
on getting what I ask from Baba?
GURUJI:
If you have that sense of belonging, then even if
Baba doesn’t give, that experience won’t go. For
instance, you have a child. You very much expect
her to pass her school exam, but she doesn’t. Do
you stop loving your child? Why do you still love
her? Because she belongs to you! Whether Baba
gives or not, once you have that experience of
belonging, everything is done. That is enough. It
sounds so simple, but it is not. What we are all
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GURUJI:
The enquiry, “Who am I?” is a question of one’s
identity; people experience their identity in differ-
ent ways. Some people may experience it as “I am
atman, I am Brahman, I am Ishwara, I am the son
of Sai Baba, I am the son of Arunachala. I belong to
him, he belongs to me.” Ramana Maharshi said he
felt possessed – “avesham” was the word he used.
Because it belongs to you, you want to possess it,
you want to experience it.
That “possessiveness” is not a negative thing;
it is beautiful, in fact, to be possessed by a greater
identity. And that sense of identity is the crux,
it is what transforms, because all our thoughts
and all our emotions are based on it. Once our
identity starts changing and transforming, then
our whole life and all our experiences also start
transforming. That is the root: identity. That is why
Bhagavan said, “Know who you are. Who am I?
Who am I?” First know your identity. Don’t try to
identify yourself, but know your identity. There is
a difference. Unless we lose the present identity we
won’t get the real identity, whatever it is. Bhagavan
didn’t say what it is, but it’s enough if we know our
real identity.
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GURUJI:
If you get something, some happiness, you share it
with others. I saw a treasure in Sai Baba. I exper-
ienced something. When you come here, I share my
experience with you. I don’t call anybody, but I don’t
refuse anybody. Why? Because Baba himself said,
“Whoever comes to you, remember that I have sent
them. They have come to you because of the karmic
relations that you have with them.”
So because of past karmic relations we are all
sitting here like this. And I treat you as Baba’s
prasad. I want to respect you. I have to do all that I
can. What I can do? I can only share. That is what I
am doing. It is all an expression of my love towards
Sai Baba.
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Expression of Love
GURUJI:
Love is an experience of the presence of fulfilment.
Usually we find that something triggers that
experience and we say that we love what triggers
it. There is always something that we want, but
often it is very abstract and unclear; we do not
know what it is. And our whole life is trying to
make concrete what our abstract sense of fulfil-
ment is, whatever gives us real fulfilment. Some
people in life come across a person – the Satguru
– where that love is triggered. You don’t find any
reason why, but you experience an indescrib-
able sense of security, of trust, of fulfilment,
where all your accumulated so-called likes and
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GURUJI:
You all yearn for love. You give it different names:
freedom, the unconditioned, liberation, mukti,
nirvana, all these things. But in your heart of
hearts what you really crave is to be loved, to be
really loved by somebody. If you experience that
you are really being loved by someone, then love
starts springing, it is triggered. Once it is triggered,
it catches hold of you and swallows you completely,
because that is your abstract sense of fulfilment, and
you’re always seeking some concrete expression of
it. So when it is concretely triggered you give in
to that experience. That triggering is not in your
hands: somebody has to love you. And that person
should be an embodiment of love; he should be
capable of loving you, and of triggering that love in
you. That is the Satguru.
DEVOTEE:
It seems that expressing love usually means to
give. But how can we be more open to receiving
love?
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GURUJI:
Even though you are expressing your love, you are
receiving it also. What are the expressions? What I
call expressions is to make yourself open more and
more – you call it opening and I call it expression.
When you’re expressing love what happens is,
you receive. While expressing, you receive. Just
think about it. When any expression of love comes
to fruition, you receive love, you experience it. In
fact, it is not a question of receiving – of giving
and taking. That is why I don’t use the expression
“to give love” – because then there is a question
of receiving something. So I only say “express
love”, “express and experience love”. When you
express love, you experience it more. Something
is “pressed” inside, not opening up, not unfolding.
Then you “ex-press” it – that is expression! That is
what the word means, hmm?
What I am saying is: you already have love, the
problem is you are not able to express it. Why are
you unable to express it? Because it is not triggered.
Once it’s triggered, expression is needed: the more
you express it, the more you experience it. That is
what we want.
DEVOTEE:
Is there a way to thank Baba?
GURUJI:
Just to experience his love, with a sense of be-
longingness, that itself is the real thanking. Yes, I
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DEVOTEE:
Somewhere Sankara said, “Attention is bhakti.”
GURUJI:
Yes, it is bhakti. That is why I called it love. What
is love? Bhakti. What is bhakti? Attention. What is
attention? Jnana.
DEVOTEE:
Guruji, because Baba is not in his body we can’t run
after him, so somehow we have to connect with
him beyond his physical form. So are there ways
to connect with the guru inside also, and not only
running after his physical form?
GURUJI:
Actually, that is what all the people here are doing
in different ways – trying to make their lives in tune
with Baba, making this more and more concrete,
feeling Baba in every walk of life, in every step, in
every breath.
DEVOTEE:
But that’s internal, isn’t it?
GURUJI:
It’s internal. And even the so-called running after
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DEVOTEE:
Guruji, you said calling Baba is something that
comes from the heart; when we love Baba, we
love Baba’s name. And so we want to call him,
and very often that happens spontaneously. But
is there a place for effort when it doesn’t happen
spontaneously?
GURUJI:
Yes. Just now someone said, “Will prayer help?”
Yes, it helps. This is the prayer, you call Baba. You
do it when you really need it, because you can’t
find any other ways, nothing, so what else can you
do? Then you sit and try to call to Baba from your
heart, thousands, millions of times.
DEVOTEE:
But then that’s trying, isn’t it?
GURUJI:
It’s your expression of love. You are expressing
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DEVOTEE:
Guruji, you said calling Baba should be our
spiritual calling, but may I ask what you mean by
calling Baba? Do you mean specifically sitting and
calling Baba, or is there a way of calling Baba in our
ordinary everyday life?
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GURUJI:
Actually, the real calling is the expression of our
love, of our emotion. For example, when you are
very hungry you think of food, you long for it.
That is a kind of calling for food. You need not say,
“Bread! Butter!” You need not say it. But the mind
says “Bread!” and it seeks that. Because earlier we
were speaking about nama, I said calling, but it’s
actually seeking, too. That loving, that expression
of love, that longing – there are so many words for
it. And depending upon the context, the word that
is suitable varies – it could be longing, it could be
just an emotion, an expression. It could be just
thinking and experiencing the love and enjoying
it. To me, all these are calling. For example, you
want to have satsang but you haven’t been given a
satsang. So you’re thinking of satsang, “Oh, how
nice it would be to have satsang, we very much
want to have satsang!” That is calling for satsang.
There are so many expressions which can go with
calling – call about, call for, calling on – use all
of them. They are all calling Baba. In English
there are so many expressions which come just
by changing the prepositions. Think about all of
them – they are all calling. Sometimes you call for,
sometimes you call on, sometimes you call about.
Whatever it is.
DEVOTEE:
But there are really limitless possibilities which
could be involved in that kind of calling. Any
expression whatever could be a calling.
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GURUJI:
Not whatever it is – expression of love! Ah, yes!
Whatever expression of love!
DEVOTEE:
If life is happy, what is there to ask for?
GURUJI:
Some of us have what we need but still we ask.
That is the beauty of it. In that asking, there is
happiness, there is satisfaction.
DEVOTEE:
The beauty of what?
GURUJI:
[Guruji laughs] The beauty of asking, I’m saying.
Not that the only people who ask are those who
don’t have anything – though this may be true
for many. But some people have everything and
still they ask. Why? Simply because asking is an
expression of their love, and receiving is itself an
expression of love. In Baba’s path everything is
so happy that we ask because we are happy. Not
that we are wretched creatures, damned creatures,
sinners. But because we are so happy and we
express our love by asking. That is the beauty in
it. Asking from fulfilment, asking because it is an
expression of our love, that is real Saipatham. Just
as now you put so many questions. It’s not that
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Namaskar
GURUJI:
Namaskar means “na-ma” or “no-me”, plus “askara”,
or “scope”. So it means no scope for “me” or “mine”.
A state where there is no scope for me or mine is
namaskar. Not, “Did that fellow do namaskar to me?”
Or, “He hasn’t done namaskar to me today.” That
is quite the opposite of namaskar! Do we not pray
that our ego, our sense of me and mine, should
be “crushed under the feet of the Satguru”? So
every time we do namaskar, the emotion and feel-
ing of humility should come, and these should be
strengthened to enliven the experience of namaskar.
That is the ritual purpose behind doing namaskar,
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What are the different namaskars you mentioned?
GURUJI:
[Anjali] namaskar is touching the palms together in
front of the heart. Pada namaskar is touching the feet
of a respected or holy person. Sasthanga namaskar is
touching all eight parts of the body to the ground
so no part is elevated; not only the head, but all
parts of the body are flat. As in English they say,
“He fell flat in front of him.” It means nothing
remains [of his pride] because everything has gone.
That is what is wanted, but in a positive way.
And once we want this [humility], once we have
that desire, where is the question of how many
times? Actually, it should be done perpetually,
so one is in perpetual namaskar. That is why the
Muslims, when they do namaz, they put a piece
of cloth on their heads to symbolize their being
under their god [Allah], whose divinity is above
their heads. That is also why Baba wears a turban,
for the same reason.
DEVOTEE:
They put something on the head?
GURUJI:
Yes, some covering to make them feel humble.
That is why, while doing namaz, they cover the
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DEVOTEE:
All of us eagerly look forward to doing pada
namaskar. We think if only we could get the chance,
we wouldn’t miss that opportunity. But what is the
importance of pada namaskar? How does it help our
devotion? And how frequently is it needed? Could
you please explain this?
GURUJI:
Actually, the meaning behind the custom of bowing
down is to bring the highest part of our body, the
head, to the lowest point. Lowest, that is, to what
level? – to the feet of the Satguru. We do this to
show that before him we are at our lowest, our
most humble, so we bring the highest part of our
body to the lowest part of the Satguru – his feet.
That is how the custom came of placing your head
on his feet, touching them, and as long as you have
the need to put your head at the Satguru’s feet, as
long as that need is there, you should do it as often
as possible. It should be there perpetually, in fact; it
is not how often, it should be there always.
These gestures are only to help make our aware-
ness of this clearer and clearer – that is the purpose
of all rituals. “One time enough!”– No! It is only to
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GURUJI:
[referring to a question asked in Telugu] He’s
asking if he has to do namaskar every time he sees
Baba’s photo. The solution to avoid doing namaskar
to Baba’s photo is to do it perpetually, even if you
don’t see Baba’s photo! If you are always doing
namaskar in your heart, there is no need to do it
outwardly. So always be in a perpetual state of
namaskar, then only the outward expression is not
needed. Otherwise you should do it. I do it. There
is nothing wrong in it.
When you see your boss in the office and he
walks towards you, you say, “Namaste, Sir.” Don’t
you say it? We don’t feel ashamed to do that. Only
with Baba do we have a problem!
GURUJI:
Many people who are aspiring to so-called spiritual
realization say, “We have to empty ourselves of all
our thoughts, all our emotions, all the samskaras, all
the vasanas. We should be clean, we should be so-o-o
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DEVOTEE:
But do we have to do this, Guruji, tilt four or five
degrees? How can we do that?
GURUJI:
If you are not afraid of emptiness and you really
realize that you are a pot upside down, placed
in the ocean of grace, then there is no need to do
anything, it will be taken care of. The problem
is, we are complaining, “We are empty, nothing
is coming inside. We’ve been here so long, just
like this, with great difficulty, in the ocean – still
we are empty.” Are we empty? No, we are full
of gas! [Guruji laughs], but we don’t like the gas.
Just tilt it, then the bubbles will come, blub, blub,
blub! These are your spiritual experiences! [Guruji
laughs] Blub, blub, blub, blub!
DEVOTEE:
But how can we tilt ourselves?
GURUJI:
I told you: if you are aware that you are a vessel,
you will be tilted. The pressure which is trying
to rush in can’t be kept out for a long time. When
you are aware, suddenly the vessel turns, and you
are finished. But you are holding onto your vessel
with effort, and asking, complaining, “Nothing, no
water is getting in.” Holding it like that, how can
the water come in? The water is powerless. After
some time, when you tire of holding it like that, then
the water will come in – when you are powerless
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Abbreviations:
s – Satsang (English)
RS – Redaction of Satsang
TS – Translation from Telugu Satsang
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1 s 91 12 March 2004 Tiruvannamalai
2 s 91 12 March 2004 Tiruvannamalai
3 s 99 16 November 2004 Tiruvannamalai
4 s 89 7 February 2004 Chennai
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Arunachala in Tiruvannamalai,
where Ramana Maharshi lived
from 1916 to 1922.
sloka Skt. a couplet of Sanskrit verse,
especially one in which each line
contains sixteen syllables.
smarana Skt. ‘remembering’; continuous
remembrance of a divine name
or form as an expression and
practice of devotion.
Sri Sai Skt. ‘True holy story of Sai’; the
Satcharita first comprehensive biography
of Sai Baba, written by his
direct devotee G.R. Dabholkar
(Hemadpant), and sanctioned by
Sai Baba himself; it is considered
the most authoritative source for
Sai Baba’s life and a sacred text by
devotees.
sunya Skt. ‘void, emptiness’.
tapas Skt. ‘heat’; ascetic practices or
penance; one of the observances
(niyamas) of classical yoga.
tirtha/teertham Skt. ‘ford’ or ‘crossing place’; a
holy place where there is a well,
pond, lake, river or sea, the waters
of which are considered to be
holy; any place of pilgrimage,
where one may ‘cross over’ to a
higher life.
Tirumala Most popular temple site in India,
located in Andhra Pradesh, which
receives hundreds of thousands of
pilgrims daily to take darshan
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