CL/QL Series

System Design Guide

 Table of Contents
1. Introduction .....................................................................................................................................3

2. Topics ...............................................................................................................................................3

3. Basic Systems – Preparing CL/QL series and R series ................................................................4

3-1. Checking firmware versions and compatibility .........................................................................4

3-2. Unit ID settings..........................................................................................................................4
3-3. Unit ID Rules .............................................................................................................................7

4. Physical Connection and Redundancy ..........................................................................................7

5. Managing IP addresses and connecting Dante Controller ........................................................ 10

5-1. Types of IP address for CL/QL and R series............................................................................10

5-2. How to set an IP address for each port .................................................................................... 11
5-3. Direct Dante patching by mounting R series units .................................................................. 12
5-4. Dante patching by using Dante Controller ..............................................................................13

6. Additional Design Tips.................................................................................................................. 14

6-1. Managing the Dante Network.................................................................................................. 14

6-2. Word clock and latency settings .............................................................................................. 14
6-3. Mixed Sampling Frequencies .................................................................................................. 16
6-4. Limits on the number of connectable Dante devices ............................................................... 17
6-5. Determine if a device can be remotely controlled ...................................................................18
6-6. Possible device combinations for remote control ....................................................................19
6-7. Controlling 3rd party I/O devices ............................................................................................. 20

History

March 2019 v1.0 released

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manufacturer or party.

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1. Introduction

When Yamaha launched the CL series of digital mixing consoles, they were the first of their kind to
include Dante networking built in. They are still among the most advanced audio networking
products available. Yet Dante can be simple enough for sound engineers to use without any
specific network training.

This guide provides advice and tips for designing and starting to setup a networked audio system
using Yamaha CL/QL consoles and R series i/o devices.

2. Topics

The main topics to be discussed in this guide include:

Basic advice for connecting CL/QL series and R series

1. Firmware compatibility
2. Console ID settings
3. UNIT ID settings for I/O Rack devices
4. Physical connections and redundancy
5. IP configurations and Dante Controller
6. Dante patching

Additional system design tips

1. Word clock, sample rate and latency settings

2. Limitations on mounting I/O devices
3. Remote controllable I/O devices via Dante

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3. Basic Systems – Preparing CL/QL series and R series

3-1. Checking firmware versions and compatibility

Before setting up a system, please check the version compatibility of each Dante device. If any device
with an incompatible version of firmware is used in the system, it may not get configured correctly, or
may have unexpected behavior. Remember that most devices have additional firmware files for their
Dante modules.

Make sure:

・ version compatibility of all the devices in the system

・ version compatibility of each device and its built-in Dante module

For the latest information and compatibility chart, visit the following page:
https://download.yamaha.com/files/tcm:39-1161321?_ga=2.7041458.1091912117.1544573794-
440072770.1543301352

3-2. Unit ID settings

Each CL/QL console and R series I/O rack relies upon a unit ID number for device recognition, remote
control functions and system management. It is important to set the ID numbers before constructing
a system. Understanding the scope of the ID numbers helps with system design.

Console ID
There can be up to four CL/QL consoles with a unique “Console ID” in a system. This ID number
determines what each console can do, and which settings will be shared with the R series devices in
the system. Find the Console ID in the DANTE SETUP menu.

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Here is how the Console ID affects operation. Because Console ID #1 controls some settings of the
R series units, there should always be a console with ID #1 in the system (unless R Remote software
is used instead of a mixing console):

R series Unit ID
When using multiple R series I/O rack devices in the system, make sure a unique ID number is set for
each device. There are many more Unit ID numbers available for R series devices: up to 32 for the
original Rio, and 128 for the newer Rio-D2 range. You will notice that the ID numbers are in
hexadecimal format.

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For the original R series units, set the Unit ID while the device is powered off (any change will not be
detected while the unit is on). Push dip switch 1 down to access additional ID numbers.

Rio-D2 Unit ID
For these devices, the Unit ID must be set while it is powered on, using the front panel display.
1. Enter the SETUP menu and press the left MENU button until the UNIT ID section is highlighted

2. Rotate the encoder until the desired ID number is shown. It can be in the range “Y000” to
“Y07F”.
3. Push the encoder to set the UNIT ID number.

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3-3. Unit ID Rules

 There should never be two consoles with the same CONSOLE ID in a single system.
 If there are more than four consoles in a single system, use the “ID OFF” option for the
additional consoles.
 Console ID#1 and R series Unit ID#1 can exist in the same system: “Console ID” and “Unit
ID” are handled independently.
 Each R series device (original Rio and newer Rio-D2) should have a unique “Unit ID” within
a system.

How UNIT ID is applied to Dante device name

The UNIT ID as configured above is used as a part of its Dante device name. Each device name
automatically includes “Y” followed by its UNIT ID at the beginning of its device name. This part
of the device name should never be edited, to avoid losing control of the device. The part of the
name following “Y0**-“ can be freely edited.

4. Physical Connection and Redundancy

CL/QL consoles and R series devices all support two methods of connection: “Redundant” and “Daisy
Chain” (or “Switched”). For the safest connection of Dante devices, utilize their two Dante ports
and dual network switches to establish a redundant network in a star topology.

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In addition, Dante networks allow a mixed combination of star topology and daisy-chain connections.
In this way, lower budget daisy-chain connections can be added without using network switches, where
the network redundancy is not required.

Both star topology and daisy- Daisy-chain uses each

chain connections can co-exist Secondary port for connecting
to the adjacent device

Network redundancy is not

provided in daisy-chain
connections

Note that daisy-chain connections can only be used in the Primary network, not the Secondary.

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A common mistake: Wrong Primary/Secondary connections

It is a good idea to check the settings before joining the device to the network: use the Dante Setup
menu of CL/QL, the front panel SETUP of Rio-D2 and the front panel dip switches of the original R
series devices.

A device in Daisy Chain

mode (both ports work as
Primary port) is mistakenly
connected to the Secondary
network.

- This problem often occurs after

the firmware update or
initialization
- When devices are moved
between different systems, there
is a higher chance of this
happening
- If this situation occurs, you may
need to power cycle everything
on the network, INCLUDING
ALL switches. Please make
sure to correct the cabling error
(or change the device setup)
before turning all devices back
on.

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5. Managing IP addresses and connecting Dante Controller

5-1. Types of IP address for CL/QL and R series

CL/QL series has three different ports and IP addresses for communicating with different external
devices.

Dante port ✔Dante audio, PTP sync

IP address 169.254.xx.yy ✔HA remote for R series

Device Control port ✔HA remote for Tio1608-D

IP address: 169.254.xx.yy ✔Nuendo Live control

Mixer Control port ✔CL/QL Editor software

IP address: 192.168.0.xxx ✔StageMix / MonitorMix
CL/QL series

R series has two different IP addresses, and they are used for different purposes.

Dante port ✔Dante audio

IP address 169.254.xx.yy ✔HA remote from CL/QL/RIVAGE

Device Control port ✔HA remote from TF series

IP address: 169.254.xx.yy ✔HA remote from R Remote

R series

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5-2. How to set an IP address for each port

Each type of port has different way of setting its IP address, and certain ports allow automatic
assignment of IP addresses, while others require manual settings. Manual assignment of IP addresses
to the Dante port will require the use of Dante Controller software. Manual assignment of IP
addresses to the Device Control port of R series devices will require the use of R Remote software.

Dante port Set via

IP address 169.254.xx.yy Dante Controller

Device Control port

Set via console
IP address: 169.254.xx.yy

Mixer Control port

Set via console
IP address: 192.168.0.xxx

Below is a chart for illustrating different scopes of IP address, how they are configured and how easy
they are to manage. (Here, we recommend the default link-local addresses unless there is a specific
reason for choosing the others).

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Link-local addressing – the IP address is automatically assigned without any manual settings, as in
the example below.

169.254.230.181 LINK LOCAL ADDRESS 169.254.212.197

169.254.xx.yy

Keep the IP configuration of

your PC Auto or DHCP, and

169.254. 12.34
a link-local address will be

automatically assigned.

5-3. Direct Dante patching by mounting R series units

By “mounting” R series to a CL/QL console, it allows the console to control the R series or make
Dante patching without needing a PC (Dante Controller software).

Mounted R series units

✔HA remote (HA Gain, +48V, HPF)

✔Dante patching and remote control

✔WITH RECALL option available

✔Settings of CONSOLE ID 1 reflected

Configurable from console (PC not required)

Unmounted R series units

✔Dante synchronization and audio only

PC required (Dante Controller, R Remote)

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Once each R series device is mounted in the console, the AUTO SETUP function in the DANTE
INPUT PATCH screen makes Dante patching very easy, following the order of units and input ports.
However, manual patching is possible for more advanced setups, and allows a large variation of
connections between the console and the mounted R series devices.

5-4. Dante patching by using Dante Controller

Devices which do not support the console Device Mount function require Dante Controller for
patching, as do systems which don’t include a CL/QL console. An advantage of using Dante
Controller is that it includes a full system overview, and it includes several intuitive patching short-
cuts.

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6. Additional Design Tips

6-1. Managing the Dante Network

To design and operate a stable Dante system, it is necessary to understand a few key concepts about
Dante networking.

In this additional chapter, we will go through various suggested settings and tips for successfully
operating Yamaha digital mixing systems with Dante audio networking.

SAFETY
FIRST

6-2. Word clock and latency settings

Many Dante devices have two separate clocks: one is for the internal audio processing and digital
conversion, and the other is inside the built-in Dante module. Care must be taken to keep all clocks
synchronized.

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For CL/QL consoles, the default setting is to use DANTE 48k as the clock Master. This is the best
setting for most systems.

Latency settings can be adjusted, depending on the number of network switches positioned between
the devices, and the initial value is 1.0msec. The latency value can be changed by either Dante
Controller or the Dante Setup screen of CL/QL consoles. Lower latencies will be useful in smaller
live performance systems. It would be very unusual to require a latency higher than 1.0msec.

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6-3. Mixed Sampling Frequencies

As described above, the sampling frequency of Console ID #1 is reflected to all R series devices.
Note that R series devices can work at 96kHz in case Console ID #1 is a RIVAGE PM series.
However, a CL/QL console will not operate at 96kHz, so it would remain silent in this situation. To
construct a system where RIVAGE PM consoles work at 96kHz and CL/QL consoles work at 48kHz,
a “sample-rate converter” device is needed. There are two options: use a HY144-D-SRC card in the
RIVAGE system to output 144 Dante channels at 48kHz; or use a Yamaha RSio64-D containing Dante-
MY16-AUD2 cards, which can convert 32 Dante channels from 96kHz to 48kHz.

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6-4. Limits on the number of connectable Dante devices

Even though thousands of Dante enabled devices can share a network, there are certain limits on the
number of Dante devices that can be mounted per console, the number of I/O devices with HA remote
control, and the number of consoles that provide the control.

Please note, while up to 24 I/O devices can be mounted on both RIVAGE PM series and CL/QL series
consoles, up to 8 I/O devices can be controlled from CL/QL consoles. A maximum of 4 consoles in
each system can provide HA remote functions. However, each CL/QL console in a system could
control a different combination of 8 I/O devices.

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6-5. Determine if a device can be remotely controlled

CL/QL series consoles can remotely control various setting such as head-amp gain and so on, from
compatible Yamaha and 3rd party I/O devices. When selecting a device in the DANTE SETUP ->
DEVICE MOUNT menu, if you see a “REMOTE” sign below the product image, it indicates that the
device is enabled for remote control.

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6-6. Possible device combinations for remote control

Below is a diagram showing which consoles and the R remote application can remotely control each
I/O device listed.

As this indicates, CL/QL series can control all R series devices as well as Tio1608-D, and even the
internal HA of QL series. However, the others have some limitations, so please be careful to use
the right console for remotely controlling the selected I/O devices.

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6-7. Controlling 3rd party I/O devices

One advantage of using CL/QL consoles is that they allow the control of various I/O devices such as
wireless receivers and mic preamps from 3rd party manufacturers, including Shure, Sennheiser, Sony,
Focusrite, Stagetec and Rupert Neve Designs. This provides more options for choosing suitable I/O
devices to work with a Yamaha audio system.

Enjoy the versatility and convenience that Yamaha’s CL and QL consoles provide: not just high quality
audio mixing consoles, but the centre of an advanced, networked audio control system.

Find more details at the Professional Audio product pages of www.yamaha.com

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