BREVA 750: Fixing A Broken Gearbox
BREVA 750: Fixing A Broken Gearbox
BREVA 750
FIXING A BROKEN GEARBOX
PART 1: GETTING AT THE GEARBOX
A bit of background:
This all started because suddenly the gear lever stopped doing anything; the bike was in gear,
but all the gear lever would do is move up and down, with no resistance, but not actually do
anything in terms of moving anything in the gearbox. Then I found this:
It had to be that. And so began this sorry saga, which I shall now attempt to document; I hope
that none of you ever have to find use for it.
To see the thread that started this, go to http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=25247.0. It
turned out that two other Breva owners (Muzz and NOLAGuzzi, real names withheld to protect
the guilty) also needed to remove the gearbox on their bikes, so between them and all the other
people who contributed to the discussion, this manual is something of a cooperative venture.
Thanks to all of you
OK, here we go.
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I have it on good authority (aka Mrs. Muzza) that Muzz prefers wine; whether this extends to his
friends, I don’t know. Mine are happy with cheap beer, that’s why they are my friends.
And I did it like this (which is why I needed the strong friends):
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Or http://www.thisoldtractor.com/guzzitech.dk/gb_en_complex-technical_crab-frame.htm
Now that you have the wheel out, take out the six cush drive rubbers and put them in a box or
something, if you leave them in the wheel they’ll fall out and hide somewhere where you can’t find
them. They can go back in only one way,
so you don’t have to mark them, but it
won’t hurt if you do.
NOTE: Just in case you miss it: I write the
recommended tyre pressure on the rim
next to the valve, helps overcome my
amnesia about such things. Note also dirty
finger marks all over and scratches on rim;
the first are unavoidable, the second not if
you are more careful than I am.
Sooner or later you are going to have to
take the fuel tank off; you can do it
whenever you like from here on in. I did it
later, so the instructions are on pages 19-
21.
Unscrew the cover nuts and shouldered plugs on which the swinging arm pivots; mine came out
much more easily than I thought they would.
Remove the swinging arm. There’s a thrust washer between it and the frame on the right-hand
(drive) side, but not on the left, I have no idea why not.
In the manual, all the above is covered in one single page (4-4); let’s say that it is a little lacking in
detail. Plus my gloves are quite a bit dirtier than Mr. Guzzi Dismantler’s.
Remove the gearchange linkage pinch bolt and slide the linkage arm off the gearchange shaft.
The arrow points to where the clutch arm return spring goes; this is the one you have to be
careful not to lose when you disconnect the clutch cable.
NOTE that I am doing the sensible thing: the screws that hold the side panel in place are all
where they belong.
On the handlebars, remove the clutch lever pivot screw, line up slots on adjuster, slide out cable.
Leave the whole mess hanging there, take the other end of the cable outer out of the lug on the
top of the gearbox and disconnect the cable from the clutch operating arm.
Remove the exhaust downpipes (they will come off as one piece with the expansion chamber,
although they don’t have to). Make sure you take out the gasket inside the head (5), behind the
split collet (6). By the way, in the photo, the clamp (7)
is upside down.
Off with starter motor. Nice and easy: two screws at the front, one fat wire, one thin wire. Like
Muzz said, comes off quicker than a lizard up a drainpipe.
The arrows point to (a) wire tie holding bush in place in brake caliper. This is why you need lots
of wire ties: not only are the bits together, you know which way round they go. Saves a lot of time
and temper when you are putting the bike back together; (b) the rubber bush that you need a
clamp and WD-40 to get back in, I wish I’d fixed it when access was this good. Live and learn.
Congratulations! Time for a beer and a moment of contemplation. You are about to get to the
more difficult part.
This is NOLAGuzzi’s picture, showing (from the top, short arrows: oil pressure sensor, screw that
holds both grounding cables, clutch cable lug, neutral indicator) and, with the long arrow, the
Screw of Doom.
Simple enough, right? Well, it is if you do the intelligent thing and remove the throttle bodies,
manifolds, etc, like NOLAGuzzi did, then you have access like that. If you don’t, access to the
Screw of Doom looks more like this:
Muzz somehow got the Screw of Doom out without taking the throttle bodies off and without
moving the engine; I could not do either, and believe me, I tried. There is simply no clearance;
you can get a socket in (just) but not turn it.
-when it's time to change the air filter you've gotta do it anyway. (It's said it CAN be done without
removing the tank. But I don't have the fingers of a surgeon, the sight of an owl and the patience
of a sloth. )
Also it's easier done if the bike has been standing for a couple of hours to release fuel pressure.”
Also, hearken unto NOLAGuzzi’s words of wisdom on the subject of getting the connector apart:
“The problem is the pressure in the lines. If you disconnect the fuel pump and turn over the
engine it will be easy to get the fuel line fitting off. Even I can do it. Be careful not to break the
plastic bits I think replacing them means a new fuel pump.
And make sure to put something in between the front of the tank and the steering tube or you will
chip up the front of the tank like I did.
The two little hoses, one is a drain and the other goes to the carbon evap can, I guess now that
my carbon can is missing that line is now just a tank vent too.”
Disconnect the multi-pin connector (on the right-hand side) that goes to the fuel pump in the tank,
and pull it up next to the red plastic elbow so that it won’t get hung up on anything when you lift
the tank:
Lift the tank off, and be very careful when you put it down that you don’t damage the red plastic
elbow. It’s fine on a flat surface, the elbow is tucked up underneath the sides of the tank.
The bottom arrow points to the place where the clutch arm return spring goes. I know I keep
going on about this, it’s just that it’s a pain to lose. I know because I did just that.
Cut the wire tie holding the grounding wire on top of the gearbox.
Remove the screw holding the two grounding wires to the clutch bell housing.
Jack the engine up ever so slightly, so that the jack, not the frame rail, is taking the weight.
Remove the hex bolts connecting the lower frame rails to the front down tubes. Cut the wire tie
first, obviously. You need to do this on the right-hand side only if you are using NOLAGuzzi’s
Or wait until the precarious arrangement of bits of wood on the jack falls over and the engine
drops and gets jammed in the frame, and then build a stand that will hold the engine in place.
Guess which one I did. If you used a trolley jack, it would probably be stable enough on that, but
the jack would really get in the way; some kind of stand is more stable and easier to work round.
By the way, if I had to build this stand again, I would extend the cross piece and also extend it
fore and aft; it worked OK as I had it, but it would have been much more stable that way.
To get the gearbox out, remove the upper mounting bolt (this is a long through bolt).
The arrows point to the gearbox filler/level plug and to what I think is the neutral switch wire.
Once the gearbox is out, given that the neutral switch is so difficult to get at, maybe cutting the
See the next part of this thrilling story to find out how to take the gearbox apart and fix it.
First job is to get that nut off the mainshaft. The workshop manual, as usual, shows that brevity is
the soul of wit:
The little detail it omits is that Mr. White Gloves is holding US$ 250 worth of special tools, neither
of which you have in your garage (you don’t have the neat ‘vice-held support’ either, but you do
have friends and some kind of stand – my Black & Decker Workmate was invaluable). The
bottom tool you can fake by boring a 33 mm hole through a 36 mm socket and then welding a
large cranked handle to it (cost me US$ 65 at a local machine shop, plus the socket); the top one
you could make in a similar fashion if you had a clutch centre lying around, otherwise you pretty
much have to shell out US$ 180 unless your local Guzzi dealer has one and will lend you it, or
You apply all sorts of pressure, but even with you on one tool and your friend on the other, that
nut is going nowhere; Mr. Guanti Bianchi is evidently Superman on his day off. So you use
Special Tool No. 3:
I don’t appear to have photographed the next step. See page 5-3 of the manual, which in this
instance is pretty much grounded in reality:
The ‘prescribed holding tool’ is the US$ 180 one, and I suppose you could do this step without it if
you had a vice with soft jaws. You also need a large socket, I forget the size:
Remove the layshaft gear (on the left) if you haven’t already. For the next few steps you can
again follow the manual:
Not sure what the ‘pawl’ is, but what the heck, it’s whatever is there; I never took it out, so I didn’t
find out. And ‘idle gear indicator’ is pretty much the same as ‘neutral switch’, so I took that out, it
is very vulnerable where it is.
Note how Signor Guanti Bianchi leaves the parts he has taken off just lying around on the
workbench; either his bench is much cleaner than mine, or he has servants to clean things up, or
Once you figure out that what the instruction with the next picture means is not ‘Loosen the
locknut and remove the eccentric screw in order to position the preselector’ but rather ‘Loosen the
locknut and remove the eccentric screw that is there for positioning the preselector’, it makes
more sense.
Before you loosen the locknut, scribe a mark on the screw head and a corresponding one on
the gearbox housing so that you can line the two up, this will save you a lot of worry on
reassembly.
TIP: From here on in, if you go away from the job for more than about 15 minutes, say, put the
gearbox in a position where the oil can drain out. Several times I thought I’d got all the oil out, but
the minute you start working on it, either oil drips all over the place, or else it fills up the bit you
are trying to work on. Hey, it’s a Guzzi.
And there is the cause of the problem: jammed teeth on the preselector. It should not be possible
for it to be in the position shown above.
The two teeth which are supposed to be sprung and engage on the selector drum shaft were
neither; they were totally jammed in the down position, which fits the symptoms perfectly: the
gear lever can move freely, but its actions are not transmitted to the gearchange mechanism.
This is the difference between the new preselector fork (left) and the old one (right).
As Muzz discovered, there is no way on God’s good earth that the preselector fork comes out at
that point.:
I managed to get mine out (just), but that was only because the teeth were jammed. Normally,
you cannot get both teeth back that far; they are sprung in such a way that, if one of the teeth
goes back, the other goes forward. Anyway, what this means is that you have to lift the selector
drum so that you can get the new preselector fork in, and then get it to engage.
The preselector rotates the selector drum, which in turn moves the actual selector forks, which
then slide the gears along the gearbox shafts into the various combinations of the cogs that
produce the five gears and neutral. Clockwise from top right: pins on which preselector teeth
engage; selector ‘star’, on which each detent represents a gear (this one is third); hole for
eccentric screw; slot that limits range of movement of preselector; shallow detent representing
neutral, therefore, the detent between this and the one that represents third is second gear. I
hope that makes sense. In this picture you can see (just) the detents for all the gears except fifth;
obviously, there isn’t one between first and fifth, so it’s easy to work out which one is which.
Just for information, here are the component parts of the mechanism:
The ‘blocking ring’ (spacer, bushing) is still in place (right). Take care when passing the
preselector shaft down the hole, there is an O ring there (barely visible).
The screws inside the gearbox all appear to be held in with Loctite, and most of them are hard to
get at, so if your hex keys have a ball end, like so:
and it starts to feel at all like the key might slip out of the screw while you are trying to turn it, my
advice would be to grind the ball end off until you have a nice flat hex end that fits tightly into the
screw head, and thus is much less likely to slip out and round it off (believe me, it happens; when
I went to change the oil in the forks, the hex screw on the bottom yoke (triple tree) rounded off. It
took an impact driver to get that one out, not a good option with these small screws inside the
gearbox.). Don’t get carried away with the grinder, though: there is one case where you pretty
much have to use a ball-end key (see below).
Enough of theory, time to get oily.
First, remove the plastic tube, and undo the hex screw (left-hand arrow in picture above) and its
companion on the other side of the mainshaft (not shown).
To get the selector drum free, you need to undo three screws. As the famous author never said,
but should have done ‘Easy screws are all alike; every difficult screw is difficult in its own way’.
Here is the proof.
You need a hex key with a shaft at least 150 mm long. Mine came out fairly easily; Muzz’ put up
quite a fight. With this and the other two difficult screws, keeping downward pressure on the hex
key while you get the screw free is important; sometimes it’s best to put a ring spanner on the key
and use that to turn it, while having one of the beer-drinking friends push down on the key.
Anyway, this is how you get it out (see what I mean about getting rid of the oil?):
A longer key would be nice; I could only get about an eighth of a turn because the handle of the
key hit the ends of the shafts. Once the screw is out, you will need something magnetic to fish it
out with, unless you get lucky.
So, you pray to Santa Rosetta Ondulata (parts list, table 15, no. 31) that Luigi did not use too
much Loctite, make sure your ball-ended 4 mm hex key is in good shape, and have a go at
turning it while putting as much downward pressure on the key as you possibly can. Mine came
out fairly easily; if yours doesn’t, I don’t know what to suggest, beyond being circumspect.
I say ‘no problem’; Muzz may beg to differ. When he took this nut off, this is what he found:
The stud was held at the two points marked, and the top of the stud, with the nut attached, was
on the verge of going flying into the box, with spectacularly destructive results (not just for the
bike – having your gearbox lock up solid is somewhere between frightening and fatal). Mine
looked fine.
Screw 3:
Finally, there is one more 4 mm countersunk-head hex screw.
I then had a friend lean on the key with his entire weight while I applied pressure to the spanner.
Even with all that, I was putting quite a lot of force on the other end of spanner and beginning to
think we were wasting our time, when the Loctite suddenly gave way with a crack!, and that was
that.
The nice thing about this arrangement is that keeping the key in place and turning it are two
separate operations, and with the spanner all the way down, near the screw, you eliminate the
twisting and waggling inherent in using such a long, thin key.
That’s it. No pictures, no nothing; you are very much on your own. I shall let Muzz add
something here if he feels so inclined. (Keep it clean, Muzz, this is a family manual.)
Not sure what all this spring measuring is about, but I did it anyway. The distances were near
enough the same; if they weren’t, I doubt that you’d need calipers to determine it.
Not the clearest of instructions, but fairly clear from the picture: the solid side of the eccentric
screw toward the pivot of the preselector. At that point the screw is in pretty much as far as it will
go.
The first bit is easy enough, even if, like so much in the manual, it skips over a lot of little details.
What you do is lift the selector drum and waggle the preselector shaft into its hole, while fiddling
the spring on the bottom of the preselector over the eccentric screw. It’s not hard, just a bit fiddly
and awkward; it helps to have someone to hold the drum up. I don’t think that it matters where
the preselector ends up relative to the pins it operates on the selector drum (see picture, page 36).
The second part caused much doubt and debate,
but we got it right. The bit about rotating the
screw 90° means what it says: back the eccentric
screw off a quarter turn from its position in the
previous step, and tighten the locknut. If you
scribed a mark on the screw and the gearbox
casing like you were supposed to, it’s easy to line
the screw up; if not, you do as I did, and eyeball it.
IRRELEVANT NOTE: I hadn’t noticed this before,
but Mr. Guanti Bianchi didn’t take the clutch
operating lever off any more than I did.
Since the manual pretends that you can get the
preselector out without disturbing any other part
of the gearbox, it doesn’t mention putting all the bits back together that you had to take apart
before you could get the preselector out. So forget the manual for a bit, back to reality.
Next, you reinsert the three screws that you had so much trouble getting out. I used Loctite on
them, up to you whether you do. The two 4 mm screws are simple, the 5-mm one a bit less so,
because you have to get it way down there between the shafts to get it in. What you need is
Kevin’s Patent Tool, a piece of ¼” dowel or similar whittled down to make it a nice tight fit in the
recess in the head of the screw, like so:
The ‘prescribed torque’ is 10 Nm (7.5 lb/ft). In real life, it looks like this:
I have no idea why I have the gasket on the wrong section of the casing (right); obviously, it
should be on the section with the gears in it (left), the way Signor GB has it, otherwise the gasket
falls off when you lower the right section on to the left one.
‘Prescribed torque’ is 65 Nm (48 lb/ft). Life is much easier here if you have the splined special
tool.
It appears from the parts list that a ‘sieger’ is an o-ring (Table 14, no. 14). If you kept the parts in
order, it should be obvious. I can’t remember; I hope I didn’t forget it. And the ‘blocking ring’ is
presumably the spacer that goes inside the oil seal behind the nut; it goes in tapered side first.
Note that this is the first time that Loctite (‘thread locking paste’) has been mentioned.
And that is pretty much it. From here on in, reassembly is pretty much the reverse of removal; I
can’t think of anything that was particularly difficult or obscure (unless, of course, you dropped the
engine, in which case it’s a whole different story, which does not belong here).
Feel free to let me know if I’ve missed anything, or if you have something you’d like to add.
Based on my experience, I'd say that anybody wanting to take a 750 Breva gearbox apart who
doesn't have access to anything fancier than a reasonably-equipped home workshop and a large
hammer needs the following four tools:
1. The Guzzi tool for holding the splined end of the input shaft (you need this twice while
dismantling, and twice during reassembly), or some home-made facsimile thereof.
2. The Guzzi tool for loosening/tightening the nut on the input shaft, or else the home-grown
alternative: a 36-mm socket with a nice long cranked handle welded on it and with the centre
hole bored out to about 33 mm so that the head of the splined Guzzi tool will pass through it
(needed once for dismantling and once for reassembly). I bought a set of eight cheapo
sockets sold for taking car suspensions and steering apart and had a local machine shop put
the tool together.
3. 4 and 5 mm hex keys, with a shaft preferably about 200 mm long, and with a T-handle or
similar, so that you can put a lot of pressure on the key without it going out of square.
4. A 4 mm ring spanner, so that you can turn the 4-mm hex key nice and close to the screw
head, to eliminate twisting and waggling. I paid about US$ 27 (!) for mine, which is the only
one that I could find - evidently there is not much of a market for such spanners (this one is
sold specifically for adjusting Ford headlights).
Some final odds and ends: