Over Half of TDs Found To Be Lying, Conniving, Cheating, Bullshitting Bastards
Over Half of TDs Found To Be Lying, Conniving, Cheating, Bullshitting Bastards
To Be Lying, Conniving,
Cheating, Bullshitting
Bastards
October 21, 2019 Ringo Breaking 0
Over half of government TDs have been found to be lying, conniving, cheating,
bullshitting bastards. The latest revelations involve TDs casting votes for other TDs who
aren’t even present in the Dáil chamber at the time.
Fianna Fáil’s Niall Collins voted six times on behalf of his party colleague Timmy Dooley
last week even though he wasn’t there.
Lisa Chambers pressed the voting button of fellow Fianna Fáil member Dara Calleary
and then her own button during another ballot last week. Ms Chambers said she knows
she should have told the Ceann Comhairle straight away but instead decided not to
bother her arse.
“When I realised my error I moved to my own seat and voted again. Yes I should have
told the Ceann Comhairle immediately but I did tell him yesterday as soon as I realised
that what I did was about to go public.”
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Fianna Fail leader Micheal Martin (Brian Lawless/PA)
Both Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and Mr Martin leader have now also admitted to
casting Dáil votes for colleagues, but both insisted their colleagues were in the
chamber at the time.
The instance where a vote was cast for Mr Martin in his absence happened
during a Dáil debate on reducing the number of seats in the EU Parliament in
February. Mr Martin is recorded as not being present for two of the three
votes on the legislation. However, for the last and final vote the Fianna Fail
leader’s vote is recorded as being present.
During the debate, Fianna Fáil housing spokesman Darragh O’Brien is sitting
in Mr Martin seat as he is taking the legislation for the party.
For the first two votes, Mr O’Brien is recorded as voting in his own seat -
despite sitting in the party leader’s seat.
However, for the third and final vote, Mr O’Brien is not recorded as voting in
his own seat. Mr O’Brien last night admitted he may have incorrectly pressed
Mr Martin’s voting button during at the end of the debate.
The Fingal TD said he was leading the debate from Mr Martin’s seat and
mistakenly pressed the button.
“The debate went on for more than an hour and for the final vote I may have
incorrectly pressed the button on the seat I was sitting in,” he said.
The vote on European Parliament Election Amendment Bill (2019) was taken
on February 28.
Mr Martin - whose party has been thrown into chaos by the ‘phantom votes’
controversy - said the practice of TDs pressing the voting buttons of other
deputies “should come to an end”.
Speaking for Mr Varadkar, a spokesman said: “The Taoiseach has never asked
anyone to vote on his behalf and has never voted on behalf of someone who
was not in the chamber.
“On a small number of occasions he has cast a vote for a colleague but only
ever if they were present in the chamber, as in ‘present and voting’ as the
Constitution requires.”
The ‘votegate’ storm erupted after it was revealed that Fianna Fáil TD Timmy
Dooley’s vote was recorded on six occasions during a Dáil session despite his
absence from the chamber.
The main party leaders have all said this practice should end. Sinn Féin’s
Mary Lou McDonald, Labour leader Brendan Howlin, Eamon Ryan of the
Green Party and Social Democrats co-leaders Catherine Murphy and Róisín
Shortall said they have never pressed another TDs voting button and never
asked another TD to vote on their behalf
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Deputies Niall Collins and Timmy Dooley.
Hugh O'Connell
October 24 2019
FIANNA Fáil TD Niall Collins told the Dáil vote-gate inquiry he could not recall who phoned him as
he was voting for Timmy Dooley last Thursday - or explain why he stopped voting for his colleague
after doing so six times.
When Mr Finnegan said this was 18-20 minutes and asked "did
alarm bells ring?", Mr Collins responded: "No and it should
have."
Mr Collins said: "I didn't. I was under the mistaken belief that
he [Mr Dooley] was in the chamber. I didn't look around to
check."
Mr Collins said Mr Dooley did not ask him to vote on his behalf.
He said he became aware that he had double-
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Adams 'inadvertently'
voted on abortion
legislation in seat of ex-
SF colleague Tóibín
Hugh O'Connell
October 23 2019
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Former Sinn Fein President Gerry Adams. Photo: PA
Sinn Féin's former leader Gerry Adams mistakenly voted in the seat of former
party colleague Peadar Tóibín on legislation to hold an abortion referendum
in March 2018.
It means that Mr Tóibín, who quit the party over his opposition to abortion, is
listed on the Dáil record as having voted in favour of a referendum to
liberalise the abortion laws. Last night, Mr Tóibín said: "I was not in Leinster
House on the day. I in no way asked for Gerry Adams or anyone else to vote on
my behalf. Obviously I completely disagreed with this policy at the time and I
would not have voted with Sinn Féin had I been there.
"I understand that record of the vote was not corrected and it remains on the
Oireachtas website to this day. I was disappointed and annoyed with the error.
However, Gerry apologised to me afterwards."
A Sinn Féin spokesperson said: "Gerry Adams had been allocated a new seat
several weeks earlier after standing down as party leader and inadvertently
voted in Peadar's seat, not his own. We alerted the Dáil officials that day to the
error and Gerry apologised to Peadar."
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Transport Minister Shane Ross. Photo: Kyran O’Brien.
Kevin Doyle
October 24 2019
Transport Minister Shane Ross has escaped sanction for using the children
minister's voting pad during a debate on drink-driving legislation last year.
In a bizarre sequence of events, Mr Ross managed to cast his own vote against
the legislation.
The Kerry TD, who vehemently opposed the legislation, demanded that Mr
Ross's error be "dealt with".
"This is totally unfair. Would he please come in here and explain what he was
at? He reached across and pressed Minister Zappone's button?" he said in
January 2018.
Fianna Fáil's Lisa Chambers is under investigation for a similar mistake - but
she did not alert tellers to the fact she "inadvertently" cast a vote for an absent
colleague.
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Varadkar, Martin
confirm casting votes
for colleagues in Dáil
Wednesday, 23 Oct 2019
By Paul Cunningham
Political Correspondent
By Mícheál Lehane
Political Correspondent
Perhaps our TDs need to be reminded that the constitution requires their presences in
the chamber when casting their vote, they cannot delegate that function to any other
member, to quote the constitution article 15 paragraph 11 ""11 1° All questions in each
House shall, save as
otherwise provided by this Constitution, be
determined by a majority of the votes of the
members present and voting other than the
Chairman or presiding member." This specifically demands their presense in the chamber
There have already been a number of calls for the Minister for Children to resign as a result of the
revelations.
It is unknown if the Children’s Minister is still a practising witch but the spiritual beliefs that were
developed by the Washington State born 64-year-old have clearly informed her politics.
I know a bit about being homeless in this country. I had been homeless from the age of
17 (1987) until I got my first place here in Cavan in 2013. I now rent a beautiful apartment
with a lakeside view. My rent is 75euro a week (minus HAP)If I had stayed in Dublin I
have no doubt I would still be on the streets today.
I have not forgotten nor ever could, the "years" I spent not knowing each day if I would
get a bed in a hostel or a sleeping bag.
Everyone seems to blame it on the migrants coming here for the homeless "crisis", but I was
homeless back when this was not an issue and even though there were fewer people homeless than
now, the services were mostly small charities.
Then these charities started being funded and they were opening hostels, drop-in centres, drug
reach centres etc. But there weren't enough homeless people to fill these new services being
provided! So what do you do? You "create" a homeless crisis by throwing people from the homes
they are entitled to live in and then top it all off by bringing in migrants and "Housing them"! Now
we can blame it on "them" and forget who is really to blame, our Government!
People need to wake up! This "crisis" we have is all part of the agenda. How many of you know
how much is being spent keeping these people homeless? Ask yourselves, Who profits from this?
I always say "follow the money"! If there was no money to be made by the homeless then we
would have no homeless! Simple as that!
Sorry, this is so long but I am passionate about this subject and honestly could sit here all day and
never run out of things to say on it. So if you have read this far I thank you, if it has made you stop
and think, then this has been all worth it. love and peace
AG V OBrien 1965, Walsh J. in Supreme Court
𝐅𝐚𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐬 𝐟𝐚𝐜𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐄𝐯𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧...
Please share these images with everyone you know that may have been EVICTED unlawfully or is
facing eviction....
It seems to be very clear that unless an order to use FORCE to remove you from your DWELLING has been
issued
(Which cannot as it would be against Art:40.5 )
Every eviction from a Dwelling therefore must be UNCONSTITUTIONAL... If this assertion is incorrect please
provide evidence of same that can withstand scrutiny by providing legitimate evidence to the same degree that has
been provided here.
Are you in court about your mortgage ? READ THIS NOW..."High Court
confirms that EU law provides important defenses for people at risk of losing
their homes, The ALPP will help people understand and enforce their rights
using EU Law by updating its Guide to EU Law and template pleadings
available at www.abusivelending.org. It will also be initiating a new round of
information sessions throughout Ireland. For more information contact: Edel
Hackett, Tel: 087-2935207For release: April 9th, 2019. High Court confirms
that EU law provides important defenses for people at risk of losing their
homes
Milestone decision, published today, determines that courts are
required to assess mortgage contracts for unfair terms and determine if it is
proportional to enter a possession order in each case.
In a milestone
decision, published today, the Irish High Court has confirmed that EU Law
protects people at risk of losing their home in Ireland. From today, it is clear
that Circuit Court Registrars, along with judges, are obliged to assess
mortgage documents for unfair mortgage terms on their own initiative,
without being asked to do so by the borrowers.
They will then have to delete any terms they find unfair before entering a
possession order,
in accordance with the EU Unfair Terms Contract Directive (UTCD).
In
addition, when asked to do so by borrowers,
Irish courts must consider the impact of the loss of the family home under
Article 7 of the EU Charter for Fundamental Rights (Respect for private and
family life).
According to legal and advocacy experts, working together as the Abusive
Lending Practices Project (ALPP), this is the first time an Irish court has
acknowledged that borrowers have these Charter rights in possession cases.
Up to now, ALPP said, state supports and institutions have largely dismissed
the role of EU law in possession cases.
The decision on the requirement for
own motion assessments was handed down on March 7th in Grant v County
Laois Registrar by Mr. Justice McDermott on March 7th.
Significantly, the
High Court decision means that State supports like the Abhaile Scheme, duty
solicitors and others advising people in mortgage distress should be
providing information and instruction on how EU laws can be used in
possession cases.
According to solicitor Julie Sadlier, who has worked with families at risk of
losing their homes for over 10 years, this has immediate implications for
current practice and training for the Abhaile panel of duty solicitors and legal
aid lawyers.
“This important decision illustrates that there are defenses under
EU law in mortgage arrears cases,” said Julie Sadlier, who also works as part
of ALPP . “This has huge implications for the protection of thousands of
people in danger of losing their homes whose mortgages contain unfair
contract terms.”
“Indeed, the tracker scandal involving almost 40,000
mortgages might have been avoided if mortgages had been checked for
compliance with the EU unfair contract terms law,” she continued.
High Court in The Attorney General v. Dublin United Tramways2 that the relationship of
master and servant existed between the People of Ireland and a policeman; and
the Supreme Court had held in Minister for Finance v. O'Brien8 and in The Attorney
General v. Córas Iompair Éireann4 that the relationship
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Bodies found in container in Essex: The Taoiseach says there are some reports the truck may
have passed through Ireland at some point, boiled water notice decontaminated
In Rome, water flows 24/7 365 from almost 3000 fountains. They don't nearly get as
much rain as us. Riddle me this
Michelle Corry · 2:14 But nobody in Ireland wants to pay water charges in order to
have good processing and infrastructure. You reap what you sow
Gerry McShane · 2:37 Your in the wrong seat
Mark Ennis · 4:00 Irish water is a excuse for more taxes that's all
Jason Byrne · 4:47 I think we established we pay & have been paying 3 times over
for years
Laura Bernadette Murray · 7:43 We are surrounded by water but we can't drink the
bloody stuff
Michelle Corry · 8:52 But you were against water charges Mary Lou
Rick Peace · 3:58 Maybe investigate the tragedy of more than 39 irish born babies
being slaughtered in this country. (Secondary to your great referendum)
RTÉ News · 4:57 Bodies found in container in Essex: The Taoiseach says there are
some reports the truck may have passed through Ireland at some point
Laura Bernadette Murray · 5:01 Not good enough leo
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Ires Reit founding chief
makes €4m profit on sale of
shares in company
Nearly 12 million shares sold to property trust’s biggest
investor, Canada’s Capreit
Tue, May 15, 2018, 19:29
Barry O'Halloran
David Ehrlich, founding chief executive of the Republic’s biggest landlord, Ires
Reit, earned a €4 million profit on the sale of 11.8 million shares in the
company. He stood down as chief executive last October.
David Ehrlich, the founding chief executive of the
Republic’s biggest landlord, has earned a €4 million profit
on the sale of 11.8 million shares in the company to its
main investor.
Mr Ehrlich stood down in October as chief executive of
Irish Residential Properties Real Estate Investment Trust
(Ires Reit), which owns 2,450 apartments in Dublin.
What is no one talking about the Canadian investment company Capreit ( Ireis being Irish
subsidiary) being the biggest private landlord in the country?
With almost 3000 rental properties ( mostly in Dublin area
Further adding to the extortionate rent costs in Dublin.
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In case anyone missed it this am.. Minister Regina O'Doherty is
sticking to her guns as it were over the use of the PSC. No
Enforcement order has been issued yet.
A PSC is NOT needed for school transport appeals. AND
according to her EVERY line Minister is responsible for how they
deliver their services.. which begs the question why did Paschal
Donoghue Dept INSIST that the national childcare scheme which
is administered by Minister Zappone can ONLY be accessed
online via MyGov.ie, one cannot access the payments UNLESS
one has a psc. hmmmm...
Minister Regina O'Doherty is sticking to her guns as it were over the use of the PSC. No
Enforcement order has been issued yet.
A PSC is NOT needed for school transport appeals
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Dáil voting controversy
Fianna Fáil's Brexit spokesperson, Lisa Chambers, will not face any sanction from her
party after she voted twice on the same motion during a Dáil session last week |
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TD’s in the Dial illegal Voting fraud controversy on absent Questions in the Dáil | Latest
politics headlines October 21st 2019
This is a very serious situation which requires urgent action’ - Ceann Comhairle begins with a
statement on the voting controversy
Vote Gate is subject to complaint under Ethics in Public Office Act, says Ceann Comhaire. He
adds that TDs must be seated to vote from now on. Procedures Committee will meet on
Thursday and consider report on controversy.
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State apology for CervicalCheck failures October 21 2019
st
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has apologised to the women and their loved ones who suffered
from what he said were 'a litany of failures' in how cervical screening in our country operated
over many years
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More than 1,000 women and families have been affected by the
CervicalCheck crisis. The failures first came to light in April last
year, with the settlement in the Vicky Phelan High Court case.
RTE.IE
No deal it is then. And if the Irish provide a extension to block Brexit by remain design. Then will
trigger a UK citizens boycott of states interfering with no merit in the UK to support remain. Facebook
censored Facebook censored : 1:Remain Paraliment blocks votes on the new deal,
2: remain paraliment blocks general election to get rid of remain MPs in parliment,
4: Remain parliment blocks the peoples democracy to hold the UK paraliment accountable by remain
and EU support extension design to reverse BRexit.
6:The remain Pinochet parliament MPs tricksters don't want to vote on the deal twice, while at the
same hypocrisy remain paraliment wants the public to have a second referendum having ignored the
result of the first.
7: Corbyn insults Poland.
If it walks like a Fianna Gael sheep, talks like a Fianna Gael sheep and goes ba ba ba
when Leo or Meehawl press a wrong button it's definitely a Fianna Gael sheep
Voting controversy,
Flanagan writes to Ceann
Comhairle over ‘illegality’
Minister says ‘I believe we are really striking at the heart of
our democratic system here’
October 21, 19
Brian Hutton
Minister of Justice Charlie Flanagan said what had happened was very
serious. Photograph: PA
Fianna Fáil TD Timmy Dooley who has stepped down from the party’s
frontbench. James Forde/The Irish Times
“There may have been times when people are passing
through trying to get to their seated position. In such a
situation a button may well be pressed in anticipation of
that person taking their seat. That has happened on
occasion
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Food for thought: Danny and Michael Healy-Rae have a very poor
attendance rate for Thursday votes. Photo: Sally MacMonagle
Hugh O'Connell
October 26 2019
Independent TDs Michael and Danny Healy-Rae have missed more than eight
out of every 10 Dáil voting sessions held in the last two years.
Figures compiled by the Irish Independent show that in the last two years the
Kerry-based brothers have an exceptionally poor attendance rate for the
weekly voting block that takes place every Thursday when the Dáil is in
session.
The Thursday voting block - where multiple votes on legislation and motions
that have been debated in the Dáil that week are held in one go - has been a
source of controversy in the wake of the Votegate controversy where it was
revealed that Fianna Fáil TD Niall Collins cast six votes for his absent
colleague Timmy Dooley just over a week ago.
The newly compiled figures show that Danny Healy-Rae has missed more
than 85pc of voting blocks on a Thursday in the past two years, showing up for
just 11 of the 71 Dáil sessions held on a Thursday since September 2017.
His brother Michael Healy-Rae has an even worse attendance rate, missing
nine out of 10 Thursday voting sessions in the same period. He has been
present for just seven of the 71 Thursday voting sessions in the same period.
This year alone Danny Healy-Rae has attended only two voting sessions on a
Thursday, while Michael Healy-Rae has attended only three.
The poor attendance of the Healy-Rae brothers, who are famed for their
devotion to constituency work in Kerry, has been noted by many in Leinster
House over recent years.
Their absence on Thursdays, including for last week's voting block - the first
since the Votegate debacle - was raised again by TDs privately this week.
"They pretty much never vote on a Thursday," one deputy said.
Michael Healy-Rae admitted his record "would not be good" but argued that
he has been paired with Fine Gael TDs on the last two Thursdays there have
been votes in the Dáil.
"My attendance would not be good on a Thursday," he said. "The best way I
could answer it is I'm not idle if I am not there voting on a Thursday. Nobody
will accuse me ever of abdicating on my political responsibilities.
"I take them very seriously and everybody in Co Kerry and around the country
knows that I take politics very seriously. Whether it's matters of local or
national importance when I am needed by people, whether in Donegal or
Kerry, I am there for them.
Contacted separately, Danny Healy-Rae said he could not account for where
he was on all of the days. "I am doing the best for the people I am representing
and I can't be two places at any one time or maybe three places or four places.
I am trying to maximise myself and do my best for the people I represent," he
said.
"I am not complaining but other fellas live nearer [to the Dáil] and I don't
begrudge that. I have to decide and prioritise where I will be more effective
and where I will be most needed or what's more important to the people that
vote for me."
Both brothers pointed out that votes on a Thursday in the current Dáil have
not been close and are often passed or defeated by large margins.
Danny Healy-Rae added: "Most of the votes that go through there, they are
won by a margin of 70 or 80 and voting for something like that my vote isn't
going to make a difference."
Voting controversy,
Flanagan writes to Ceann
Comhairle over ‘illegality’
Minister says ‘I believe we are really striking at the heart of
our democratic system here’
Mon, Oct 21, 2019,
Brian Hutton
Minister of Justice Charlie Flanagan said what had happened was very
serious. Photograph: PA
Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan has written to the
Ceann Comhairle over what he has described as the
“illegal act” of a Fianna Fáil frontbencher voting for a
colleague absent from the Dáil.
His letter came after revelations that Fianna Fáil TD
Niall Collins voted six times for party colleague Timmy
Dooley while he was absent from the chamber during the
weekly bloc voting session on Thursday.
The two senior TDs stood down from the party’s
frontbench at the request of Fianna Fáil leader Micheál
Martin, pending the outcome of an investigation into
alleged voting irregularities by Ceann Comhairle Sean O
Fearghaíl.
The controversy over the absent votes means any law
passed on the basis of a “fraudulent vote” will now be
subject to challenge, the Minister of Justice said.
Mr Flanagan described what had happened as a really,
really serious misdemeanour in our parliamentary
system where it is alleged that somebody arranged a vote
inside in the chamber and had absented themselves from
the chamber when the doors are firmly locked,” he said.
“That to me is prima facie very suspect behaviour and
totally unacceptable.”
Mr Flanagan said he wrote to the Ceann Comhairle Seán
Ó Fearghaíl about the issue over the weekend and is
expecting him to publish a report at the earliest possible
opportunity.
“It is important that we have an independent assessment
of the auspices of the Ceann Comhairle. He is the
protector of members’ interests and standing orders.”
Mr Flanagan on Monday declined to apologise for having
voted for other colleagues himself while in the chamber.
TDs have long had concerns over electronic voting in the
Dáil
Dáil voting rules to be tightened as ‘votegate’ controversy
deepens
Shane Ross mistakenly voted for absent colleague but
corrected record
Fianna Fáil TD Timmy Dooley who has stepped down from the party’s
frontbench. James Forde/The Irish Times
“There may have been times when people are passing
through trying to get to their seated position. In such a
situation a button may well be pressed in anticipation of
that person taking their seat. That has happened on
occasion.”
Mr Flanagan said there was a difference between voting
for a colleague who was present in the chamber and
those who were not present.
He said after the division bell, the doors are sealed after
eight minutes and anybody inside is invited to vote.
“Anybody outside the chamber has no entitlement to
vote,” he said. “That’s the issue here. A proxy vote is
strictly prohibited under the standing orders of the Dáil
and the Constitution. This is far from over. It is very
serious,” he warned.
He said what Mr Collins and Mr Dooley were being
investigated for “a completely different issue, because it
seems that one of them had deliberately, with intent,
absented themselves from votes, and that’s where the
illegality is.”
Fianna Fáil TD Lisa Chambers. File photograph: Dara Mac Donaill
Also on Monday Fianna Fáil’s Lisa Chambers said she
mistakenly sat in her colleague and party deputy leader
Dara Calleary’s seat last Thursday for one vote and
moved to her own seat for the same vote as soon as she
realised.
The party’s Brexit spokeswoman said she denied over
the weekend ever having voted for anyone else, or asking
anyone to vote for her, because she took that to mean
that she “intentionally, knowingly, purposely” done so.
Ms Chambers said on Monday Fianna Fáil leader
Micheál Martin accepted her explanation of how she
voted for a party colleague in the Dáil.
Ms Chambers said she does not expect to be suspended
from her front bench role - like party colleagues Mr
Dooley and Mr Collins - because “what happened to me
is very different.”.
“What happened with me was an honest genuine
mistake,” she told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland.
“I honest to God believed I was in my seat, and I was
pressing my voting button,” she said.
Minister for Communications, Climate and Environment
Richard Bruton said TDs casting ballots for each other
was “common practice”.
While saying a fellow TD has never voted for him when
he wasn’t in the chamber, the Minister said: “If I was
sitting in someone else’s chair ... and someone was
sitting ... you know, I’d just say press my button, I’m
here. That has become common practice. But what has
gone wrong here is that people not in the chamber at all
voted.”
Charlie McConalogue, Donegal North East TD and
Fianna Fáil spokesman on agriculture, food and the
marine told Highland Radio: “Under no circumstances
should anyone be voting for someone who is not in the
chamber."
Catherine Murphy, Social Democrats co-leader and
Kildare North TD, said voting for absent TDs is “a breach
of the Constitution” because it states elected
representatives “have to be present and voting”.
“Leinster House makes its own rules, but it makes them
in line with the Constitution and the Constitution is very
clear: Article 15 says all questions in each house (of the
Oireachtas) shall be determined by a majority of votes by
members present and voting.”
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Regina Doherty not in her seat on May 8th 2019 but still manage to get
someone to vote for her Oct 21st 2019, I Call This Treason crime, Why
are the Garda not investigating this
Catherine Murphy, Social Democrats co-leader and
Kildare North TD, said voting for absent TDs is “a breach
of the Constitution” because it states elected
representatives “have to be present and voting”.
“Leinster House makes its own rules, but it makes them
in line with the Constitution and the Constitution is very
clear: Article 15 says all questions in each house (of the
Oireachtas) shall be determined by a majority of votes by
members present and voting.”
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The controversy over the absent votes means any law passed on the basis of a
“fraudulent vote” will now be subject to challenge, the Minister of Justice said.
“This is a really, really serious issue in our parliamentary process,” he said.
Mr Flanagan said he wrote to the Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl about the issue
over the weekend “because I believe we are really striking at the heart of our democratic
system here.”
Dáil voting row sparks
uptick in FF-FG tensions
Sharp political exchanges on controversy seen as prelude
to general election campaign
October 22, 19
Harry McGee Political Correspondent
EU for the Art 50 extension, arguing MPs have given their consent for
a deal. European Union (Withdrawal) Act (Section 13) shows that the
Agreement can only be ratified if parliament has approved and passed
Act.
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European Parliament to give its content was the passage of the European Union
(Withdrawal Agreement) Bill (WAB) to Royal Assent.
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It’s the biggest decision yet for Leo Varadkar’s term in office. File photograph:
Two questions have dominated conversations in the
corridors of Leinster House this week. The first: Is there
going to be a Brexit deal? The second: Are we going to
have an early election?
Both questions are related, with the second dependent
on the first. In a no-deal scenario, or in an extension
situation where the outcome of Brexit negotiations is not
assured, the prospects of an election are low. It is only if
a Brexit deal is a certainty that thoughts can turn to an
election.
That will depend on more than a positive outcome from
Brussels this week and in London at the weekend.
Moreover, at this moment in time, the backing of the
DUP, or for that matter, the special Westminster sitting
on Saturday is not assured.
If there is a deal, the domestic repercussions will revolve
around the second question, about holding an
election. “It’s the biggest decision Leo Varadkar will
make in his time as Taoiseach,” a senior Minister told
me over the weekend. That Minister was of the view that
is would be the optimum time for Fine Gael to go. “He
would be getting the accolades from Brexit. We could say
Leo delivered on Brexit phase one, now put him back to
steer us through phase two.”
There are very few TDs of any party who believe the
election will take place in May 2020, notwithstanding
the Taoiseach’s existence. “He’s saying May 2020 but he
has to say that,” said a Fine Gael backbencher. “If he
were to say he’s thinking of an election before anything
came out of Brussels, that would cause uncertainty and
he’d be accused of making hay out of it. He can’t say
anything like that until it’s settled.”
If an election were called, the minimum period for a
campaign is 18 days excluding Sundays and public
holidays. So if an election was called on November 1st it
could take place anytime after Wednesday, November
22nd. However, any extension, even a week, could push
the election back into December. It would be a difficult
decision for a Government to hold an election with only
15 shopping days to Christmas.
Avoiding bear traps
That said, there are obvious bear traps the Government
could avoid if it goes early. Four by-elections are due to
take place at the end of November, and Fine Gael is
unlikely to win any. Fianna Fáil could win three of them
- Wexford; Cork North Central; and Dublin Fingal -
which would give Gael’s largest rival huge impetus.
The problem is that the by-elections must be held by the
New Year. This stems from legislation that was
introduced after the then Fianna Fáil government
walked itself into a debacle of its own making in late
2009. It delayed holding the byelection in Donegal South
West. Pearse Doherty, then a Senator, took a High Court
case and won. In the subsequent byelection he won by a
landslide, giving a massive fillip to his own party and a
premonition of Fianna Fáil’s soon-to-be demise. The
legislation provided for by-elections to take place within
six months of the seat being vacated. The four MEPs
technically vacated their seats in July allowing a window
until January.
If there were an extensions and the Government decided
for an election early in the New Year, you could have the
potential farce of four by-elections being held, followed
quickly by a general election.
The New Year isn’t exactly a fruitful period either when
you are nearing the end of your term. Trolleys and
homelessness are big issues in deepest winter. In
addition, the ‘feel good’ afterglow from Brexit will have
worn off by then.
The arguments for a November election seem compelling
but there is a counter-intuitive view, mostly put forward
by Fianna Fáil (they would, wouldn’t they?) and a few of
the more wizened Fine Gael politicians. For them, calling
an early election can be a perilous risk. The rationale for
calling it is often not the rationale of voters on polling
day. And that’s a negative.
They point to the fact Leo Varadkar has never gone
through an intense national election campaign as leader
before. He could be champion but he could also belly
flop. Theresa May’s experience provides a salutary
lesson. But there are precedents too in Irish electoral
history. Charlie Haughey twice called snap general
elections, in 1981 and in 1989 (when polls suggested he
could win a majority). On both occasions it backfired -
partly because voters did not buy the line an election was
necessary.
Varadkar will need to be mindful of that. He will need to
be conscious also that in key constituencies, Fine Gael
has yet to sort out its best candidates in half a dozen
places after a mixed local election. Even with a Brexit lift
seat gains are not guaranteed. It is strong in Dublin but
that won’t translate into a seats bonanza.
Elsewhere, the gains will be in ones and two rather than
in droves. And that’s with a gale win at this back.
Technically, too, the extension of the confidence-and-
supply agreement with Fianna Fáil is not formally
concluded until the Finance Bill and Social Welfare Bill
have completed their passage through the Oireachtas.
Fine Gael was here before when then taoiseach Enda
Kenny was wracked with indecision over going early in
November 2015. He decided against and went the
following summer when Fine Gael had a relatively
indifferent election. Some of his colleagues and
commentators argued the delay cost Fine Gael as many
as 10 seats. In reality, there is no evidence to support the
theory Fine Gael would have done better.
It is true that parties in government get into a bubble
mentality towards the end of term where they believe
something magical will crop up to reverse their flagging
fortunes. It does not happen. It just follows the theory
that once you begin to seep support it’s really hard to
regain it.
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Youse just really don’t give a
f***’, TD tells Government
in Dáil
Joan Collins later withdraws remark made during ongoing
debate on Budget 2020
Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 15:37 Updated: Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 18:56
Marie O'Halloran
Independent TD Joan Collins acknowledged she should not have sworn
during the ongoing Dáil debate on the Budget after she told the Government
side “youse just really don’t give a f***”. Video: Oireachtas
Independent TD Joan Collins acknowledged she should
not have sworn during the ongoing Dáil debate on the
Budget after she told the Government and Fianna Fáil
“youse just really don’t give a f***”.
Leas Cheann Comhairle Pat ’The Cope’ Gallagher told
the Dublin South-Central TD that it was “not customary”
to use a “four letter word”.
He also said you’re above that”, as he called on her to
withdraw her remarks on Wednesday afternoon.
“You’re well able to make your case without using
unparliamentary language,” he said.
Ms Collins replied saying “I accept that” and said she
withdrew the remark but added she was very angry
because she had people coming into her constituency
office who were on their knees and needed support and
assistance.
She said there is a poverty crisis in the country along
with the crisis in health, housing and homelessness but
the Budget “says loudly, ‘Crisis, what crisis?’”.
Ms Collins was addressing a virtually empty Dáil
chamber during the ongoing debate on the Budget.
Minister of State Ciarán Cannon was the sole
Government representative in the chamber and Ms
Collins noted there were very few Fianna Fáil TDs
present.
She criticised Fianna Fáil public expenditure and reform
spokesman Barry Cowen for his Budget speech on
Tuesday when he made a “litany of silly jokes” about the
left-wing parties.
Ms Collins said the Fianna Fáil party was “easily
amused”.
But she said of the two largest parties in the Dáil: “You’re
not here, you’re not listening, you don’t care and to put it
bluntly for the amount of phone calls I’ve got from
constituents in the last 24 hours “youse just really don’t
give a f***”.
She added that “it’s absolutely outrageous that this is
actually happening and people are being subjected to
this Budget”.
‘Unfathomable’
Earlier, speaking during the debate Taoiseach Leo
Varadkar said the Budget was about shielding citizens
“as best we can” from the worst of a no deal Brexit.
The footage shows that Ministers Michael Creed, Michael Ring, Simon
Harris and junior Defence Minister Paul Kehoe were the only ones
present in the front row but in total five votes were cast on amendment
13 to the bill proposed by Labour's Jan O'Sullivan.
She was talking to Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe and was at the
back of the chamber during a previous amendment to the bill.
"She has never and never would ask anyone to vote for her when she
was not in the chamber and would not condone such behaviour," her
spokesman said.
Both Labour and Sinn Féin have called on TDs Timmy Dooley and Niall
Collins to make statements today on their roles in the Dáil voting
controversy.
Labour leader Brendan Howlin and Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou
McDonald both said the two TDs must outline all the facts around the
scandal in the Dáil.
Ms McDonald went further and also called for some sort of sanctions
for any TDs who had voted for others who may have been outside the
chamber.
That is not the way any parliament can function. And that certainly has to have
consequences for people who do that.
Mr Howlin said he had never voted on another deputy's behalf while
they were outside the chamber or asked someone to do so for him.
Ms McDonald said the same. The Sinn Féin leader added: "Inside the
chamber there has been a practice of people moving chairs are hitting
buttons for each other. And I think that should stop.
I mean, to be frank, I think people should just sit in their own chair and try and
hit the right button.
"It's really not good enough, that people who are who are not inside
the chamber would have votes cast on their behalf.
"I don't know if there's a sanction for it. But I know this, it is a very
serious situation.
"And yes, we have, we have found one situation where multiple votes
were cast on behalf of a deputy who was not present, and that raises
the obvious question.
"Was this a one off? Is this a pattern of behavior? And then that raises
questions around the results of votes."
Sources have said that part of the investigation is to focus on why the
vote tellers - during last Thursday's eight votes – did not properly tally
the votes with the numbers of persons present in the chamber
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Both have insisted they never asked anyone to vote for them when not
present in the Dáil after video footage from recent weeks showed both
absent on occasions when their vote button was pressed.
Other deputies have also said they may have pressed a colleague’s
voting button but only when they were actually in the chamber.
“I’m very concerned about voting patterns which were revealed at the
weekend, in reference to voting patterns of last week,” said Mr
Flanagan, who also admitted that a wider review of all TDs may open a
“can of worms” for his own party as much as Fianna Fáil.
Ms Chambers said she did not inform the tellers after she mistakenly
voted in her colleague Dara Calleary’s seat and denied ever doing that
in a radio interview on Sunday.
As it was put to me yesterday - the Maria Bailey fiasco was such a Fine
Gael type of scandal, while the 'Vote-gate' row is a classic Fianna Fáil
one.
For decades, Fine Gaelers were always seen as the class prefects, the
best turned out and representatives of the elite in legal, business and
government circles
Fianna Fáil, on the other hand, was the party of the bold boys, the men
who used to stand at the back of mass smoking, the cute hoors who
played fast and loose when it came to rules and obligations.
That is why, the video footage of Fianna Fáil TDs Timmy Dooley and
Niall Collins discussing the vote in the Dail last Thursday was so typical
of Fianna Fáil of old. Collins voted six times for Dooley while he was
absent from the chamber during the weekly divisions.
The quick request of Dooley as he exited the chamber, met by the casual half
nod to the affirmative from Collins, encapsulated how too easy it was.
The reports have opened up a hornets' nest of how votes in the Dáil are carried
out. The day began with Fianna Fail's Brexit spokeswoman, Lisa Chambers,
having to explain why she voted incorrectly in her constituency colleague Dara
Calleary's seat but didn't tell anyone about it, and incorrectly stated she had
never done anything like that on national radio.
Then we have had a plethora of admissions from ministers
and TDs alike that they too have pressed the vote button for
other people from time to time. Communications Minister
Richard Bruton said TDs casting ballots for each other was
“common practice”.
While saying a fellow TD has never voted for him when he
wasn’t in the chamber, the Minister said:
If I was sitting in someone else’s chair ... and someone was
sitting ... you know, I’d just say press my button, I’m here.
That has become common practice. But what has gone
wrong here is that people not in the chamber at all voted.
While the two TDs have been temporarily stood down from
the party’s frontbench at the behest of their leader Micheál
Martin, all eyes now turn to the outcome of the
investigation into alleged voting irregularities by the Ceann
Comhairle.
While Martin has shown considerable bravery by insisting
the two men step down, he had little option. He also must
be pulling his hair out.
At a time when his party was gaining momentum and
looking ahead with some anticipation to the by-elections in
November and/or the General Election, this episode has
killed such progress.
Fine Gael has sought to make hay and its strategy is clear –
attack Fianna Fáil's competence on all fronts in a bid to
shore up its own position. When Fianna Fáil is gifting Fine
Gael such easy wins, that job becomes all the easier.
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On Saturday, it emerged Fianna Fáil TD Niall Collins voted six times for
party colleague Timmy Dooley while Mr Dooley was absent from the
chamber during weekly votes on Thursday.
Both Mr Collins and Mr Dooley have since been suspended from the
party frontbench by Fianna Fáil leader Micheal Martin, pending an
investigation by Mr Ó Fearghaíl into what happened.
This morning, it emerged that Fianna Fáil TD Lisa Chambers had also
voted on behalf of colleague Dara Calleary while Mr Calleary was in the
chamber.
"I would [like to see a tightening of Dáil regulations]," he said. "I'm very
concerned about voting patterns which were revealed at the weekend, in
particular reference to voting patterns of last week.
I believe it's important therefore that there be an independent
assessment under the auspices of the Ceann Comhairle of the Dáil.
"He's the protector of members interests, the guardian of the rules and
standing orders, and I believe it's important that investigation can get
underway and that report be published at the earliest opportunity.
"I was in touch with the Ceann Comhairle at the weekend, he indicated
to me in writing that he is having an investigation and that he will be
prepared to publish that report at an early date."
"As a former chief whip myself I believe it's important the practice and
procedure of the house in terms of voting that only those votes are
counted. That goes to the essence of the constitutional requirement of
Dáil Éireann."
Asked if all TDs should clarify if they ever voted for a colleague, and
what the circumstances of the situation involved, Mr Flanagan said:
"that would take its course in the context of the Ceann Comhairle's
examination".
Pushed on the issue, he said: "I'm sure they will do in due course having
regard for the seriousness of the situation."
Mr Flanagan said there is no reason for him to apologise for voting for
another TD who was physically in the Dáil chamber at the time, saying:
"No, it's not a question of jumping around seats, there are occasions
when people are sitting in the Taoiseach's seat.
Mr Flanagan said when asked if a wider review of all TDs may open a
can of worms for his own party as much as Fianna Fáil that "that's a
matter for themselves [his party colleagues]… I think the issue is the
illegal nature and the unlawful act of proxy voting which is a really
serious misdemeanour in our parliamentary system".
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politics headlines October 21st 2019
This is a very serious situation which requires urgent action’ - Ceann Comhairle begins with a
statement on the voting controversy
Vote Gate is subject to complaint under Ethics in Public Office Act, says Ceann Comhaire. He
adds that TDs must be seated to vote from now on. Procedures Committee will meet on
Thursday and consider report on controversy.
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To vote for somebody else, that’s impersonation, or to vote twice that is a crime. It certainly
would be no defence to say that it didn’t matter because the person who won won by a big
margin anyway.
Jesus wept they ALREADY HAVE designated seats. Otherwise how could you know you
were sitting in someone else's seat as has been claimed. They really do believe we are
fucking stupid
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“Beyond the investigation being taken up ably by
the Ceann Comhairle, how are we to establish whether or
not this practice is, and has been, in fact, widespread and
how will we deal with the consequences of that?” McDonald
asked Varadkar.
In response, Varadkar said “the integrity of the voting
process is integral to our democracy”.
He continued:
If an ordinary citizen voted twice, for example, and voted for
somebody else as well as themselves, that would be a crime.
To vote for somebody else, that’s impersonation, or to vote
twice that is a crime. It certainly would be no defence to say
that it didn’t matter because the person who won won by a
big margin anyway.
Varadkar said “we must apply to people in this House the
same standards as we would apply to ordinary citizens going
out to vote on voting day, on election day or on referendum
day”.
The Taoiseach went on to say he believes there is “a world of
a difference” between being in the chamber but not being in
your seat and not being in the chamber at all.
“In order to allay any concerns or confusion, I think we
should all now be in our seats for all votes from now on.”
Varadkar said “we must apply to people in this House the same standards as we
would apply to ordinary citizens going out to vote on voting day, on election day
or on referendum day”.
“In order to allay any concerns or confusion, I think we should all now be in our
seats for all votes from now on.”
Pardon my ignorance here but I don’t get this ‘world of difference between
being in the chamber and not in your seat, and not being in the chamber at
all’. Either you pushed your button and voted yourself or somebody else
pushed your button and you did not vote yourself.
Now we know why Bertie’s voting machines were ditched. TD’s believed that
the general population would behave as they do. You really couldn’t make
this up.
Is it not the Ceann Comhairle’s job to make sure the Members stick to the
Rules? Did he turn a blind eye, or is he asleep at the wheel too
Did Mary Lou have anything to say about her own crowd pressing the button
when not in their seat.
Nothing will happen, 1,000 Euro fine and banned from the chamber, then you
might get their attention, however nothing will happen as usual
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Oct2019/?fbclid=IwAR0zdcUppDgUBVC19u5RlLbWxympuLwDtJDBWyLFe32bu
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Imagine how many times this legislation was abused...
I very much doubt Shane Ross is the first or the last...
They didn’t go to all the trouble of writing, debating and passing this legislation just for
Shane bloody Ross to hide his activities that the public are entitled to know behind this
legislation as “private papers”.
I hope you can appreciate and understand just how damaging to an open and transparent
democracy this development represents..
State apology for CervicalCheck failures October 21 2019
st
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has apologised to the women and their loved ones who suffered
from what he said were 'a litany of failures' in how cervical screening in our country operated
over many years
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Renters, mortgage holders, asylum seekers stuck in direct provision, hidden homeless,
students, Travellers in overcrowded halting sites, people on the social housing list,
people who've refused homeless services, people who are waiting for affordable housing,
single people, single parent families....
Our housing and accommodation needs cannot be ignored if we present them united.
The FG-FF government rub their hands in glee when they see honest and motivating
groups like this containing people who attempt to deflect the anger away from the government
and onto minorities.
Other people suffering are not the problem. The problem is Airbnb and other short term tenancy
arrangements , a reliance on the private rental market, evictions, the failure to build public housing
and the vast amount of houses lying empty across the state that take ages to turn around because
local authorities keep outsourcing the retrofit work to private contractors.
Stick to a message of unity of demands and those who are inadvertently doing the government's
work for them by being discriminatory will fall away.
Back in those times ash we went home to a warm bed and ours didnt have that worrie its disgraceful
everybody deserves a home and when your actully putting yourself out there and there laughing at you
does have ye fuming they would happily make you cry quicker then letting you down gently and i just
think now as it stands its just not acceptable our kids are goimg grow up in to this mess and where will
there mental health be when there older who will be left with the guilt and the blaim us when the
system is failing us and its resulting on them its not fair i dont want my kids growing up and
remebering back to a time we wore × homeless × its sicking thanks ash well all do this togather please
god cause ill die trying
My poem Called
I’m Homeless all Alone
By Rita Cahill
Oct 2019
its about the Homeless i hope you all like it
We Walk The streets with our Head's Bowed Down
we are The Homeless with no where to Go. And life gets us down,
We Try to get by Day to Day
but the light in our eyes is fading away.
We were once young and so full of Life.
And the only thing we wanted was to have a Good life
But our Dreams have turned upside Down
where once we had Sunshine
But now only rain
.As we lie on the streets and Feel so Alone and in pain .
We pray in Silence that This feeling will Go Away.
So we get up in the morning and try to make it through the Day
But that fear of loneliness will not go away..
we sit in silence and watch people pass By
A Silent tear will fall from my eye,
We try to think of the Good times instead of the Bad,
we hope to god one Day the pain and loneliness will Go away
My Hopes and Dreams just Scathered around,
Wondering around for hours in the town,
The Happy Ending to get that home we never had,
I Walk for hours and bleed my feet, every Day
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Ceann Comhairle's inquiry into irregular voting in the Dáil, the controversy isn't over yet,
October 24th 2019
RTÉ Political Correspondent Mícheál Lehane reports.
A white wash, we are worth more than this, as is our vote, absolute
gangsters.
They will be held to account @ election time.
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Social Democrats co-leader Catherine Murphy called for the clarity after
the first figures in two years for the system found the cost of the
project to date has now hit €67.8m.
The letter confirmed the public service card price tag has increased by
€8m since early 2017, with the total cost including €294,000 on "facial
matching software and maintenance" among other matters.
Raising the issue - and the ongoing row between the Government and
the Data Protection Commisioner over the cards - Social Democrats co-
leader Catherine Murphy said the costs raise further questions.
Noting the money involved, she said the Department and Minister
Doherty must now give the full price tag of the "lifespan" of the project,
and that clarity is now needed on the money spent on "facial matching"
software.
"Can you ask them about the lifespan of the card and what the
potential cost is?" Ms Murphy asked PAC chair and Fianna Fáil TD Sean
Fleming.
At a later stage of the meeting, Fianna Fáil TD Marc Mac Sharry asked
for Mr Quinn - who the Irish Examiner revealed this week has stepped
down from a key children's hospital board - to personally appear,
saying: "I think he can certainly add ... value."
Social Protection Minister Regina Doherty has been urged to explain why money is being
spent on public service card "facial matching software" despite repeated assurances the
Government has no plans to use the tool.
Social Democrats co-leader Catherine Murphy called for the clarity after the first figures in
two years for the system found the cost of the project to date has now hit €67.8m.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/doherty-urged-to-explain-spending-
on-facial-matching-software-
959525.html?fbclid=IwAR34dAnCF1ZCUa0u7eadwY4VdAIcK5RMfNmx4bseP0uws3oyh
MgN1GN96aU#.XbKuZ9DoOcg.facebook
Gardaí using PSC for vetting
forms despite law
Friday, October 25, 2019
An Garda Síochána has been including the public services card (PSC) as
an identification option on Garda vetting forms used by businesses
across the country, in apparent violation of social welfare law.
Vetting is required for any employees who may be working with either
children or vulnerable adults.
This is carried out via a points system, with 100 points required to
reach the relevant threshold, which in practice requires a form of
identification and an acceptable verification of address. The PSC
represents the joint most valuable form of identification per the live
vetting forms, at 80 points, along with a driving licence.
“The reassurances given by Government that the uses of the card can
be effectively curtailed are hard to give credence to when it’s blatantly
being used as an ID and the gardaí are not supposed to be able to ask
for it,” said Antoin Ó Lachtnain, director with Digital Rights Ireland.
“GoMo have the excuse of simply not knowing any better, but you
would expect An Garda Síochána to know what the rules are,” he said.
“There has to be a strategy for this kind of thing, with a carefully
considered solution, and the PSC is not that solution.”
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gardai-using-psc-for-vetting-forms-
despite-law-959754.html
Rights group plans Ireland’s first ‘mass action’ legal
campaign over Public Services Card
Published 26 September 2019
A civil liberties group has announced plans to submit a legal complaint over the
Public Services Card (PSC) on behalf of more than 1,000 people.
Digital Rights Ireland (DRI) said its new #no2psc campaign, launched yesterday,
represented the first “mass action” legal campaign in Ireland.
“With #no2psc, we’re hoping to gather more than 1,000 Public Service Card users to
force an end to the government’s mass abuse of personal data.”
He added: “The Public Services Card has become a stealth national ID card. More and
more public bodies are demanding service users present a PSC.
Dr McIntyre said submitting a complaint under the GDPR would give the Data
Protection Commissioner, whose ruling on the PSC under separate data protection
legislation is now the subject of litigation, “additional powers to require the
government to comply, including fines of up to one million euro”.
https://www.irishlegal.com/article/rights-group-plans-ireland-s-first-mass-action-legal-campaign-over-public-
services-card?fbclid=IwAR2ZSt4clmFwy8w0z6TVJ7NUmnWTQ0JRUqb9UcDNENtAqxfMhEo9CAN-GxU
The watchdog’s report on the scheme, which found that its expansion had no legal
basis, was published by the department last night.
FINAL INVESTIGATION REPORT An investigation by the Data Protection
Commission in respect of the processing of personal data by the Department
of Employment Affairs and Social Protection in relation to THE PUBLIC
SERVICES CARD (“PSC”)
http://www.welfare.ie/en/pdf/pr170919.pdf
However, Social Protection Minister Regina Doherty has disagreed with its
findings and has no plan to revise the scheme.
Ms Doherty said her department has “strong legal advice that the existing social
welfare legislation provides a robust legal basis for my department to issue PSCs for
use by a number of bodies across the public sector”.
Taking those services away from you to force you to get a card is and
always has been illegal.
We Need Your Help to Make It STOP
If you have ever had a PSC -- even voluntarily -- you can join our mass action complaint and
help us make the government face the DPC's full powers under GDPR. Those new powers
include million euro fines, a ban on data processing and the forced erasure of data.
https://no2psc.digitalrights.ie/?fbclid=IwAR1plVpUPP3xf-YVoU6cdqKf0_wgvz2GNMjOuc-KQxfvDx3HJI2-
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Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals
Joint Submission from Digital Rights Ireland and Castlebridge Associates
Submission prepared by Daragh O Brien, TJ McIntyre, and Dr Katherine O’Keefe on
behalf of
Castlebridge Associates and Digital Rights Ireland
www.castlebridge.ie | www.digitalrights.ie
Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals • • •
About Castlebridge Associates 4
About Castlebridge Associates
Castlebridge Associates (http://castlebridge.ie) is a leading training and consulting firm
specializing in Data Governance, Data Protection, Information Quality management, and
Information Strategy
Castlebridge Associates has provided Data Governance and Data Protection training and
consulting services to public sector organisations including the Revenue Commissioners,
the CDETB, and SUSI. We have also advised on Data Governance strategy for a
leading, high profile, EU institution, as well as for a range of private sector organisations
in a number of industry sectors.
In addition to our training and consulting work we organize specialist conferences on
Information Quality, Data Governance, and Data Protection under the “Information
Governance and Quality Ireland” brand. See www.igq.ie for details of our latest upcoming
event.
About Daragh O Brien
Daragh O Brien, is an internationally regarded expert on Data Governance, Information
Quality, and Data Protection practice. He is a Fellow of the Irish Computer Society, a
member of the International Association of Privacy Professionals, a former Director of the
International Association for Information and Data Quality (IAIDQ), and is currently Global
Privacy Advisor to the Data Management Association (DAMA).
Daragh holds a degree in Business and Legal Studies from UCD, and is a Certified
Information Quality Practitioner, Six Sigma Green Belt, and Certified Data Protection
Professional. He lectures on Data Governance and Data Protection practice on the Law
Society of Ireland’s Professional Certificate in Data Protection Practice.
About Dr. Katherine O’Keefe
Dr. Katherine O’Keefe is an Analyst Consultant with Castlebridge Associates,
specializing in Data Governance and Data Protection implementation and training.
Katherine has worked on Data Governance programme design for a leading telecoms
company and has worked with a number of clients on Data Protection compliance
reviews and gap remediation. Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals
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About Digital Rights Ireland 5
About Digital Rights Ireland
Digital Rights Ireland is dedicated to defending Civil, Human and Legal rights in a digital
age. We are a small, focused organization. We are a member of European Digital Rights
(EDRI) and also work with other civil rights groups such as the Irish Council for Civil
Liberties and international colleagues in groups such as Privacy International.
Our volunteers work in three key areas:
Working with Government and Legislators
We work to help legislators to understand the issues involved in online rights. For
example, we recently appeared before an Oireachtas committee in relation to the issue of
cyber-bullying.
Legal Challenges
We are bringing a constitutional challenge against the Irish government in relation to their
policy of retaining internet and telephone records on the entire population. This case has
a major European dimension and we have already achieved a landmark victory before
the European Court of Justice. The Irish Human Rights Commission appears as an
amicus.
Digital Rights Ireland itself sought leave to intervene as an amicus in relation to attempts
by international record labels to block IP addresses of certain file sharing websites.
Public Activism
We explain these issues in public and help assemble public campaigns in relation to
them. We regularly contribute to radio programs and print and online publications in
relation to these topics. In 2012 we helped organise the Stop SOPA Ireland campaign
and achieved international publicity and condemnation of government proposals for
internet blocking. Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals • • •
Executive Summary 6
Executive Summary
We welcome the opportunity to comment at this early stage on the proposal for a Data
Sharing and Governance Bill.
We are broadly welcoming of the initiative to improve Data Governance and Sharing in
the Public Sector. This represents a key opportunity for meaningful change in the Public
and Civil services that has potential to improve customer interactions, drive expenditure
reductions, and improve efficiency. These are laudable objectives that have the potential
to build on isolated case study examples of good practice cited in the Proposal
document, such as the sharing of data between Revenue Commissioners and SUSI to
streamline the payments process for student grant assessments.
However, such a vision can only be achieved with a strong and consistent emphasis on
Data Governance to avoid repeating the failures of other public service data integration
and data sharing initiatives. This Data Governance focus must also address currently
identified weaknesses in Data Protection compliance capability across the public sector,
which will only be compounded should widespread data sharing become the norm.
In that context we are of the view that:
1. The proposal needs to address the causes of previous failures of public sector
initiatives otherwise there will be further failures. These failures were not because of
technical or legislative failures but because strong and coherent data governance was
missing (For example, see Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report into
eGovernment and REACH). This is in line with wider industry research that identifies
absence of data governance as a root cause of data integration project failure rates.
2. Data Sharing already takes place between Public Sector bodies and between Public
Sector and Private Sector bodies with clear legislative bases. It is unclear what additional
sharing capability would be provided by an umbrella legislation, other than the promotion
of reuse, which in turn requires effective Data Governance for standards, formats, and
usage of data.
3. Data sharing is no panacea. It brings problems of its own in terms of data quality and
effectiveness. Data that is fit for one purpose may not be fit for another, and the public
service may find itself sinking under a deluge of data it does not understand. There is a
far greater possibility of an unthinkable data protection breach.
4. We propose an alternative definition of “Data Sharing”. This definition better reflects
the reality that different levels of sharing that are required in different circumstances and
takes into account the different purposes for which sharing might occur.
5. Data Governance is not defined at all in their proposal. Many of the issues with data
sharing in the public sector have their heart in failures of Data Governance and a failure
to apply customer-centric and data-driven thinking in the right governance framework,
which necessitates a clear vision of what Governance is. We have defined it. We believe
the bill should focus on formalising and providing a mandate for transparent and effective
Data Governance across the public sector, which will enable safer sharing and support
reform.
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Executive Summary 7
6. The proposals go beyond the scope of what is required for compliance with the EU
Reuse of Public Sector Information Directive. Other aspects, such as the limitation on
data sharing to public sector bodies within the State, do not meet the requirements of the
Directive.
7. The definition of Data Sharing contained in the proposal document is insufficient and
we provide an alternative definition.
8. The role of the Data Protection Commissioner as an independent arbiter must be
maintained. It is not appropriate that they have direct input into Data Governance in the
Public Sector as this goes against the necessary segregation of Duties. A Data
Governance Office for the Public Service could provide the appropriate “honest broker”
for common principles, standardised practices, and common governance across the
Public Sector, with particular reference to improving standards in Data Protection
practices and the development of a common “Business Data Glossary”. This mirrors the
practices in large private sector organisations when dealing with the Data Protection
Commissioner. As an entity that is independent of Government under EU Treaty
provisions, it is essential the engagement of the State with the DPC be on the same
terms as other large Data Controllers and Data Processors in the Private Sector.
We are of the opinion that, should our concerns and suggestions be taken on board in
the drafting of this legislation, there is a significant opportunity for Ireland to establish a
“best of breed” model for effective and balanced sharing of public sector data, while at
the same time driving efficiencies and economies in the sector through improved Data
Governance; clarity of roles, responsibilities, and accountabilities; improved potential for
reuse of data; standardization of common work practices, procedures, and training for
Data Protection; and collaborative resolution of information quality errors and prevention
of ‘scrap and rework’.
The sharing of public sector data will always raise issues of trust, transparency, quality,
and compliance. Recent high profile cases such as the disclosure of GRO data of living
individuals via an Ancestry research website, unauthorized access to personal data held
by Government departments such as the Department of Social Protection, and concerns
raised in the media about the Data Protection compliance of data handling by Irish Water,
all serve to undermine that trust in how State bodies handle personal data.
With the former Data Protection Commissioner openly decrying the failure of Public
Sector leadership to engage appropriately with their obligations under Data Protection
law, and warning of the need for “continued vigilance about the encroachment of the
State into the private lives of individuals” (Hawkes) it is essential that any reform of Data
Governance and sharing addresses these concerns in a forthright and transparent
manner.
This Bill provides a unique opportunity to establish a data sharing framework that is
underpinned by transparent Data Governance principles that will be deserving of and
supporting of public trust. In this way, an appropriately structured Bill, which focuses on
the obligations of Governance rather than the minutiae of execution, can provide a stable
foundation on which to build a reformed culture and practice of trusted, trustworthy, safe,
and compliant Data Sharing in the Public Sector. Consultation on Data Sharing &
Governance Bill Proposals • • •
Introduction 8
Introduction
Effective sharing of information between organisations has the potential to streamline the
delivery of public services. However, experience in both the public and private sectors
has shown that increased access to and sharing of information does not always translate
into an increase in efficiency and effectiveness. Furthermore, industry research has
shown consistently that data integration and sharing initiatives that do not address data
governance have a significant risk of failure. This has been borne out by C&AG reviews
of data sharing and data integration initiatives over recent years in the Irish Public
Service.
The very clear and trenchant comments of the former Data Protection Commissioner
about the culture of Data Protection compliance in the Public Service, is symptomatic of
systemic failures in Data Governance in the Public Service and the absence under
current legislation and structures of clear decision rights, responsibilities, and
accountability for data processing activities, especially in the context of Data Protection.
We must also acknowledge the creation and use of legislative basis for data sharing in a
number of high profile government initiatives such as the establishment of Irish Water.
Based on the experience of Castlebridge Associates advising on Data Governance and
Data Protection aspects a number of Public Sector initiatives we must also recognize the
often low levels of maturity of understanding Data Governance principles and specifics of
Data Protection law and practice.
On that basis it is clear that the emphasis within any Data Governance and Sharing Bill
should be placed not on the legislative basis for sharing of data, but rather on
implementing clear and standardized structures to ensure the effective and efficient
governance of data, which will in turn provide a foundation for trusted and transparent
sharing of data to support efficiency and transformation in the public service.
In this document we have set out a series of detailed responses to the questions posed
in the consultation process. In preparing our responses we note that the questions in the
consultation document were not numbered sequentially, with question numbers being
repeated in the document. This may pose difficulties in comparing responses between
submissions, hence we have not relied on the number of the questions but have used
section headings containing the text of each individual question.
We have also included a detailed analysis of the definitions of Data Sharing contained in
the document and put forward what we believe is a more detailed and descriptive
definition that reflects the different categories of sharing that might arise in practice. We
have also provided a working definition of Data Governance, which we note was not
actually defined in the consultation document. We have also outlined a possible
framework for a Data Governance Office for the public sector, to support the
development and definition of common standards, business data glossary, independent
oversight of Data Sharing arrangements, and standardization of training and work
practices for Data Protection Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals •
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Introduction 9
Officers across the public sector. This DGO function would support a segregation of
duties between the execution of public sector data sharing and the Data Protection
Commissioner, further ensuring independence of the Office of the Data Protection
Commissioner as required under EU law.
We also request clarification on the degree of overlap between the requirements of the
Reuse of Public Service Information Directive and the requirements of Open Data in
government and the implicit vision of granular data sharing between public sector bodies
for operational purposes. We submit that these are two distinct purposes and should not
be conflated for the purposes of sharing data. Provision of aggregated and statistical data
for PSI and Open Data purposes requires a different level of and approach to Data
Governance and Sharing then the sharing of data for transactional purposes.
It is clear that data is and will be shared between public sector bodies and between
public sector entities and private sector firms. This sharing can be addressed on a case-
by-case basis with specific legislation. In our submission we point out that it may not be
possible for a “one-size-fits-all” over-arching Data Sharing provision given the
requirements under EU law for processing to be proportionate. We set out potential
solutions to this, but highlight the essential emphasis on effective governance of data to
promote reuse of standardized data sharing services for common purposes.
As sharing occurs, and will continue, we are of the opinion that any new legislative
provisions should focus on ensuring a strong foundation is established for a robust Data
Governance capability within the Public Sector. It is this capability, combined with a
coherent strategy for data sharing, which will support efficiency and effectiveness in the
Public Sector as well as providing a comprehensive platform for Public Sector reform
through data.
Absent a focus on developing a consistent and appropriate data governance framework
within this Bill it is inevitable that increased sharing of data will lead to increased
likelihood of costly project failures due to data governance and data quality issues, as
well as placing the personal and sensitive personal data of citizens at increased risk of
unauthorized processing, theft, or misuse. While no system of governance will ever be
perfect, any form of statutory-based Data Governance with a sufficiently clear mandate
and authority will clarify roles, responsibilities, and accountabilities for data in the Public
Sector.
Important lessons to be learned here.
Officers across the public sector. This DGO function would support a segregation of
duties between the execution of public sector data sharing and the Data Protection
Commissioner, further ensuring independence of the Office of the Data Protection
Commissioner as required under EU law.
We also request clarification on the degree of overlap between the requirements of the
Reuse of Public Service Information Directive and the requirements of Open Data in
government and the implicit vision of granular data sharing between public sector bodies
for operational purposes. We submit that these are two distinct purposes and should not
be conflated for the purposes of sharing data. Provision of aggregated and statistical data
for PSI and Open Data purposes requires a different level of and approach to Data
Governance and Sharing then the sharing of data for transactional purposes.
It is clear that data is and will be shared between public sector bodies and between
public sector entities and private sector firms. This sharing can be addressed on a case-
by-case basis with specific legislation. In our submission we point out that it may not be
possible for a “one-size-fits-all” over-arching Data Sharing provision given the
requirements under EU law for processing to be proportionate. We set out potential
solutions to this, but highlight the essential emphasis on effective governance of data to
promote reuse of standardized data sharing services for common purposes.
As sharing occurs, and will continue, we are of the opinion that any new legislative
provisions should focus on ensuring a strong foundation is established for a robust Data
Governance capability within the Public Sector. It is this capability, combined with a
coherent strategy for data sharing, which will support efficiency and effectiveness in the
Public Sector as well as providing a comprehensive platform for Public Sector reform
through data.
Absent a focus on developing a consistent and appropriate data governance framework
within this Bill it is inevitable that increased sharing of data will lead to increased
likelihood of costly project failures due to data governance and data quality issues, as
well as placing the personal and sensitive personal data of citizens at increased risk of
unauthorized processing, theft, or misuse. While no system of governance will ever be
perfect, any form of statutory-based Data Governance with a sufficiently clear mandate
and authority will clarify roles, responsibilities, and accountabilities for data in the Public
Sector.
Important lessons about the importance of effective Data Governance as part of Privacy
by Design can be learned from the implementation of Data Sharing in Irish Water, which
has significant legislative basis for data sharing provided for in the Water Services Act
2013. Due to a failure to engage clearly and transparently with Data Governance and
Data Protection issues, concerns about the Data Protection compliance of Irish Water’s
processing, and significant confusion as to their entitlement to request PPS Numbers and
the purposes for which those details would be used, resulting in extensive (and
avoidable) media comment and scrutiny from the Data Protection Commissioner’s Office.
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Introduction 10
This Bill represents a singular opportunity to define a statutory framework for common
Data Governance standards to underpin improved Data Protection compliance in the
Public Service, implement appropriate data sharing based on agreed principles, drive
reform of Public Services through a focus on data, and demonstrate transparency and
trustworthiness of public service data processing to the relevant data subjects – the
citizens.
We would hope the Minister considers our comments and submissions and seizes the
opportunity to drive a radical data driven reform of the Public Service through improved
Data Governance to support trusted and trustworthy sharing of data. Consultation on
Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals • • •
Data Sharing and Open Data: A disconnect in the proposals? 11
Data Sharing and Open Data: A disconnect in the proposals?
As part of our review of these Policy Proposals, we have sought to validate the stated
rationale and reason for the Data Sharing framework and associated legislation against
the specific policy proposals contained in the document. This analysis has informed
some of the rationale behind our responses to the formal questions raised in the
consultation document.
The scope of the directive and proposed legislation
We are concerned that the scope of the proposed legislation goes beyond the scope of
the EU directive it proposes to address and beyond both its stated objectives and legal
justification.
Query: Does the proposed policy go beyond the requirement of the PSI Directive?
Page 17 of the Data-Sharing and Governance Policy Proposal positions the suggested
bill as "containing the necessary provisions required to transpose the Public Service
Information Directive ( DIRECTIVE 2013/37/EU OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT
AND OF THE COUNCIL of 26 June 2013 amending Directive 2003/98/EC on the re-use
of public sector information) into Irish Law. However, Directive 2013/37/EU addresses
"Documents produced by public sector bodies of the Member States" which "constitute a
vast, diverse and valuable pool of resources that can benefit the knowledge economy"
and encourages open data policies to establish "a minimum set of rules governing the re-
use and the practical means of facilitating re-use of existing documents held by public
sector bodies of the Member States." (Article 1 ) These objectives are addressed in
actions 21-25 of the eGovernment strategy "Supporting Public Service Reform 2012-
2015" (April, 2012 http://per.gov.ie/wp-cont…/uploads/eGovernment-2012-2015.pdf ).
Query: Is what is proposed under this Policy proposal a framework for data integration as
opposed to Open Data?
PER's paper proposing a data sharing and governance initiative across public bodies
defines the subject of the proposed bill as ". . . data-sharing consists of two public service
bodies sharing structured data about an entity (such as a person, business, property or
event)", suggesting that "the implementation of an “ask-once, use many” vision will help
to significantly reduce the administrative burden on citizens and businesses,. . ." (Data
Sharing and Governance Bill Policy Proposals, 2).
The proposal is not an open data initiative that addresses the directive in scope or
content. Rather, the "ask-once, use many vision" and the "overall database of identity
information" (12) for the purpose of: "a) the matching of identity data provided by multiple
public bodies so as to provide the public service with a system-wide view of identity data
and b) to provide a general identity verification service" (11) suggest a large scale data
pooling project which is appears far beyond the scope of legislation required by
2013/37/EU.
Given the well publicised issues of inappropriate access and unauthorised disclosure of
personal data in a number of Public Sector organisations, and the very explicit criticism
by the Data Protection Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals • • •
Data Sharing and Open Data: A disconnect in the proposals? 12
Commissioner of the Data Protection culture within the Public Service, the creation of a
larger, more integrated, data repository of citizen data gives pause for concern.
Notwithstanding our concerns that the proposed registration goes beyond the
requirements of the Directive, any legislation that enables greater access to a richer data
set describing identifiable must balance the risk to privacy with clear and decisive
sanctions for misuse or abuse of this data, and robust controls to build-in risk mitigation
and require Privacy by Design/Privacy by Default principles to be respected at a senior
level across the Public Service and Government.
Conflict with Proportionality Principles and the Objectives of the Directive
Paragraph 25 of Directive 2013/37/EU states: "In accordance with the principle of
proportionality, as set out in that Article, this Directive does not go beyond what is
necessary in order to achieve those objectives. This Directive should achieve minimum
harmonisation, thereby avoiding further disparities between the Member States in dealing
with the re-use of public sector documents".
We would query how the proposal fits with this emphasis on proportionality and avoiding
further disparities. It would seem, rather, that in going far beyond the scope of the EU
directive, PER's proposal may in fact violate the purposes of the Directive. It is also to be
noted that 2013/37/EU specifically identifies "to facilitate the creation of Community-wide
information products and services based on public sector documents, to enhance an
effective cross-border use of public sector documents by private companies for added-
value information products" as objectives of the directive (paragraph 25). As such is the
case, both the specific exclusion of "sharing of data with a public body in another EU
member state" in the proposal's definition of data sharing and the focus of the proposal
on large-scale aggregation and matching of personal data are incompatible with the
European directive.
We would also query the compatibility of the proposal with the fundamental human right
of data privacy as recognized in the EU Charter of Human Rights, the Data Protection
Directive (Directive 95/46/EC), and in the Irish Data Protection Acts of 1988 and 2003.
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Data Sharing and Open Data: A disconnect in the proposals? 13
Query: Is there a ‘disconnect’ between the stated policy objectives and the proposed
policy framework to be transposed into legislation?
We are concerned by an apparent disconnect between the stated purpose of the
proposed Data Sharing and Governance bill, and the actuality set forth in the proposal.
The stated purpose of the proposed bill as set forward has been expressed thus by
Minister Brendan Howlin:
The purpose of the proposed Bill is:
1. To improve the experience of citizens accessing services by requiring public bodies to
use data that is already available electronically in the public service when delivering
services by removing the option of relying on certain paper documents to verify provided
information, but instead requiring that it look up the data or seek it from the relevant
public body. Removal of the option to request a particular paper document by a particular
public body will only take place where the purpose(s) for which the document was being
requested can be met by other channels, and where there will no adverse effect on the
efficiency or control measures of the particular public body.
2. To provide a legal framework to support access to data held by other public bodies. It
is expected that when the new Data Protection Regulation comes into force that all data-
sharing and linking in the public service will require an explicit legal basis, and a legal
framework usable by smaller public bodies will be required to facilitate the establishment
of such a legal basis in a reasonable timeframe.
3. Set down data-sharing and data-linking principles for all public bodies, including
requirements around structure, project governance and security. These would provide a
statutory basis for best practice, building on existing DPC guidelines and PER Circular
17/2012, and including a requirement to conduct a Privacy Impact Assessment prior to
undertaking any new data-sharing projects.
(http://www.per.gov.ie/government-agrees-measures-to-improv…/)
The proposal goes beyond these stated objectives in a number of ways. We believe that
our recommendation to place a focus on establishing a clear Data Governance
framework and oversight entity will better meet the stated policy objectives than the focus
on sharing of data that appears to be the current focus of the proposed Bill.
Query: Where in the proposal is there a clear statement of Information Processing
Principles
We note a distinct absence of clear data-sharing and data linking principles in the
proposal, particularly in the case of structure and project governance. Although the
proposal starts with a suggested definition for "data sharing", the resulting proposed
definition refers back to the term it purports to define. A definition of "Governance" is not
attempted. Thus, neither "data sharing" nor "governance" are clearly defined, with a
resulting lack of clarity in the proposal. Without clarity in understanding the Consultation
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Data Sharing and Open Data: A disconnect in the proposals? 14
Governance structures, rights, and accountabilities to be set in place, it is difficult to
gauge how this proposed bill will set in place frameworks that bypass the existing legal
protections without contravening the fundamental human rights that the current legal
framework is designed to protect. In the case of data sharing between public bodies
without the consent of the data subject a specific legal basis is required. Currently,
primary legislation sets forth the specific need for an explicit legal basis to share or re-
use data for a purpose not specified on collection. This provides the legal framework that
protects the data subject's fundamental right to privacy that Minister Howlin notes when
he states: "in Ireland we benefit from strong constitutional protections relating to
individual privacy, which are reinforced in terms of data sharing by the extensive
safeguards embodied in EU data protection law." (http://www.per.gov.ie/creating-
confidence-in-data-sharing/ ).
While the "Data-Sharing and Governance" bill proposal states that the proposed
framework for data sharing will remain subject to the requirements of Data Protection law,
it is unclear how the proposed bill would accommodate the fundamental need for the
legal specifications of a particular data sharing requirement without the primary
legislation under which successful examples of data sharing provided in support of the
bill were successfully engineered.
We would query the specifics as to what in the proposed bill will ensure data sharing is
conducted in compliance with fundamental human rights.
The Interoperability Objective
At the heart of any discussion of data sharing is the question of interoperability. How this
question is framed depends in many respects on what is understood by the term “data
sharing” and how this aligns with the requirements of the interoperability framework that
is developed within any Data Governance structure or legislative oversight.
It is particularly important that the definition of what constitutes “data sharing” and “Data
Governance” under the scope of the proposed legislation is sufficiently clearly
constructed so as to be unambiguous. It is the experience of Castlebridge Associates
that among the key causes for failures in Data Governance initiatives is a failure to
properly define what is meant by Data Governance, to clearly articulate a Vision for Data
Governance, and to define unambiguously fundamental core principles that should under
pin the processing of data of any kind, in particular personal data.
The policy proposal, as it stands, fails in our view to clearly articulate:
1. What data sharing is, and equally what it is not. This creates a potentially significant
risk of ‘scope creep’ or ‘function creep’ in the operation of Public Services.
2. What Data Governance is understood to mean in the Public Service, and what the
format and structure of that Governance would be.
Given the very public and trenchant criticisms by the Data Protection Commissioner of
the general attitudes and approaches to Data Protection within the Public Sector in recent
months (but going back many years) and the apparent difficulties faced by Public Service
management in preventing, detecting, and taking action on foot of breaches of
information security and Data Protection, it is our strong opinion any “interoperability
framework” for data sharing must be built on very clear Fundamental Information
Processing Principles, with a very clear common definition, vision, and application of
Data Governance.
In addition, we would be concerned that the policy proposal as currently framed conflates
Data Sharing and Data Governance. This, in effect, conflates the action of doing data
sharing and data processing with the establishment of appropriate Governance
structures to oversee that sharing and processing. This failure to draw a distinction
between the two issues has its root in the definitions which underpin this proposal and
results in a failure to clearly delineate an appropriate segregation of duties and
responsibilities within the policy framework.
We strongly believe that, in the absence of a clear differentiation between the function of
sharing and processing data and the function of implementing and operating effective
oversight and controls, there is a strong risk that the current deficiencies and
weaknesses in control of, oversight of, and protection of data (whether sensitive,
personal, financial, or operational) within the Public Sector will persist. Consultation on
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The Interoperability Objective 16
We would recommend that a clear distinction be drawn in proposals between Data
Governance and Data Processing, including Data Sharing. This is in line with established
best practice for Data Governance initiatives.
Defining Data Sharing
As highlighted elsewhere in this submission, we disagree with the definition of Data
Sharing that has been put forward in the current draft legislative proposal.
The definition currently put forward does not actually define data sharing. It describes
certain specific actions and actors which may be in scope within a process for sharing of
data. It presumes that there is a common understanding of data sharing as a discipline
and practice.
We are concerned that this lack of definitive definition would give rise to unanticipated
and undesirable scope creep or function creep in data processing and data sharing on
one hand, and avoidable confusion and objections to valid and legitimate initiatives on
the other. Indeed, from our review of the current Policy Proposal it is unclear at times
whether the ‘sharing’ being proposed is a case by case exchange of data for specific
operational purposes (e.g. the exchange of data between SUSI and the Revenue
Commissioners pursuant to the Student Finance Act 2011) or the creation of a ‘Single
View of [Entity]’ shared data repository.
Furthermore, the definition as set out in the current proposal does not adequately
distinguish between the act of data sharing and the act of and practice of governing the
sharing of that data. These are two distinct concepts and should be defined and
addressed separately (we define Data Governance below).
We believe that it is fundamentally important that the definition of data sharing be clear,
non-recursive, and unambiguous so as to ensure that all current and potential future
purposes and mechanisms for sharing of data are addressed appropriately. We also
submit that a failure to distinguish between the act of sharing data and the operation of
governance over that sharing would allow the current climate wherein effective
governance of data is often placed second to the execution of a data related process to
persist, representing a significantly wasted opportunity for reform in the Public Sector.
An Alternative Definition of “Data Sharing”
We would propose the following definition:
Data Sharing is the execution and operation of defined processes for the exchange of
information between one or more entities for the purpose of supporting the delivery of
statutory public sector services, or the execution of obligations under EU law.
Data sharing processes may operate on
a) a case by case basis for the validation and verification of data;
Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals • • •
The Interoperability Objective 17
b) on a defined batch processing basis for the validation, verification, and updating of
specific populations of data;
c) or as once-off consolidation and integration of disparate data sets to form a new,
shared, master data repository. This may also be called Data Pooling or Data
Consolidation.
Defining Data Governance
Data Governance is defined by the Data Governance Institute as:
“A system of decision rights and accountabilities for information-related processes,
executed according to agreed-upon models which describe who can take what actions
with what information, and when, under what circumstances, using what methods” (The
Data Governance Institute)1
1 Other definitions can be found in Data Governance: How to Design, Deploy, and
Sustain an Effective Data Governance Program by John Ladley, Morgan Kaufmann,
2012
Data Governance is not defined as a concept in the Data Governance and Sharing Bill
proposal. Given that some Public Service organisations, including regulatory
organisations, have defined their own definitions of Data Governance and Information
Governance, for example HIQA’s Guidance on Information Governance (Health
Information & Quality Authority), there is a distinct risk of cross Departmental variances in
definition of and application of Data Governance principles and practices absent a clear
centralized standard definition of the term. This objective may be served through an
appropriate legislative intervention, coupled with a clear framework for ensuring the
definition and its associated principles are consistently and effectively communicated and
applied throughout the Public Service.
With regard to whether Data Governance issues are a question of implementation, we
refer you back to our core working definition of Data Governance from the Data
Governance Institute. Data Governance Definition Element Comment
A System of Decision Rights…
The establishment of a system of decision rights for the processing of data is an
organizational and cultural issue. While a legislative basis for the system may provide a
common framework, it will fall to organization leadership from the top down to drive the
cultural change necessary to execute effective Data Governance.
The current Data Protection Acts provide an example of an existing system for a
framework of decision rights, but we have still seen an apparently systemic inability on
the part of the Public Sector to translate this into practical management.
right rules need to be followed in the right way, acting on the right data, for the right
reasons, at the right time.
In Figure 2 below we illustrate the various layers of segregation of duties that should exist
in the context of Data Protection compliance, however in the context of Master Data
Management and establishing any form of Service Oriented Architecture for data services
across a large organization, there are a number of additional governance factors that will
need to be considered. For the purposes of the illustration we have not shown the Private
Sector segregation of duties as a ‘V’ but the best practice is that a segregation of duties
exists there too.
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Detailed Responses to Specific Questions Raised in Consultation 38
• If verification is required of a person’s registered marital status, fact of birth registration,
fact of death, or other data point, this is a case-by-case validation check that does not
require detailed data transfer
• If additional data is required to update data about that person (e.g. to update a date of
birth registration, date of marriage, or date of death) that is a category of data sharing
defined in our definition
• If GRO data to be consolidated with a new master data register that is a third category
of data sharing a defined in our alternative definition and would require more scrutiny and
different governance.
We would also point out the potential for errors or for unauthorized disclosure of sensitive
personal data in instances where the name that a person uses in day to day life does not
match their registered birth name, such as in the case of a transsexual individual or a
child of a divorced or bereaved couple who has taken the surname of a step-parent.
Removing the human interface from scenarios such as this could result in certain
segments of the population encountering additional issues engaging with State services.
"Some jurisdictions are examining the concept of an “honest broker” or “trusted third
party” – this would have the power to accept any data and process it on behalf of public
bodies, while preventing the public body from accessing the raw data. Is this a concept
that could usefully be included in the Bill?
The only example of a public sector entity for data sharing on the basis described in the
question is the Honest Broker Service established in the Department of Health, Social
Services, and Public Safety in the Northern Ireland Executive. There are examples of this
form of intermediary entity existing in academic and commercial clinical research
however, and it does provide a buffer between requesting entities and the original source
systems of record which can help minimize data exposed or shared.
We note that, in almost all examples we looked at as part of framing our response to this
question, that the data being discussed was anonymized, pseudonymised, or aggregated
data. Specifically, the website of the DHSSPS HSC Honest Broker Service (HSC HBS)
states that:
“The HBS will enable the provision of anonymised, aggregated and in some cases
pseudonymised health and social care data to the DHSSPS, HSC organisations and for
anonymised data for ethically approved health and social care related research”
This sharing of anonymized and aggregated data is conducted by the HSC HBS under
the oversight of an Information Governance Board that is responsible for ensuring good
governance of data and ensuring that data is provided in compliance with Data Protection
regulations and standards.
Whether an “honest broker” could be usefully introduced under this Bill depends on the
definition of "honest broker" in the context of Data Sharing and Data Governance. If the
definition is a structure similar to the HSC HBS – an entity that aggregates data and
provides aggregated/anonymized data sets Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance
Bill Proposals • • •
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to requesting bodies, then we would respond yes, and we would welcome the
introduction of a ‘one stop shop’ for aggregated data as it would reduce the need for
multiple points of data sharing for similar purposes. We would also submit that this
honest broker function would necessitate the establishment of the Data Governance
Office that we have referenced in response to earlier questions to:
1. Ensure common business glossary across potential data sources such that the correct
data was combined in the correct manner in aggregated data.
2. Ensure that anonymization/pseudonomyisation practices and protocols were
appropriate and complied with
3. Ensure that appropriate controls and protocols are in place to prevent unauthorized
access across multiple systems in a way that would breach Data Protection principles
4. Process requests for new forms or formats of aggregated data and ensure they are
subject to appropriate privacy impact assessment and other controls.
Subject to appropriate controls it may also be the case that an ‘Honest Broker’ model
could be used to facilitate specific reusable data sharing components, along the lines of a
Service Oriented Architecture (SOA) approach. Specific commonly occurring purposes
for sharing of data could be defined and a standardized interface implemented and
provided by the Honest Broker, subject to appropriate Data Governance and related
controls.
The Data Governance function would ideally perform an “honest broker” function in
respect of data definitions, standards, and disputes re: interoperability between source
data repositories. This is in line with the general role of Data Governance organisations in
a variety of private and public sector organisations such as Walgreens in the US or the
International Finance Corporation in the World Bank and which Castlebridge Associates
has recommended in a leading EU institution.
We note that the United Kingdom’s Government Digital Service division has developed a
strong capability in developing data access and data sharing services across the UK
Government sector and has produced a significant amount of data about the cost
inherent in and cost reductions possible in Government services in the UK. They are a
centralized solution design organization operating across multiple UK Government
departments to deliver standardized data access mechanisms.
Tellingly however, their strategic plan for 2014 to 2015 stresses the importance of having
the “necessary governance in place” to enable them to deliver hoped for benefits from
digital services investment in the UK public sector (Government Digital Service).
Figure 5 A potential Honest Broker Governance model
A key root cause for the failure of data sharing and data integration projects of this kind is
a failure to address Data Governance, Data Quality, and 'human factors' elements.
Examples of such failures in the public sector would include PPARS, REACH, and the
apparently on-going data quality challenges faced by PeoplePoint.
The creation of any large "single source" repository of data could raise questions of
proportionality of processing and data minimization under Directive 95/46/EC and Article
8 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights, as well as creating increased risks of loss or
damage arising from information security breaches. It is imperative therefore that the
benefit case for sharing in this way be clearly defined and articulated and appropriate
governance put in place prior to the development of new capabilities. Key lessons can be
learned from the failure of care.data in the UK and the negative publicity associated with
it.
In many circumstances compartmentalization of data, with 'sharing through validation'
checking serves a valuable function, allowing processes to be automated with minimal
sharing of data and Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals • • •
Detailed Responses to Specific Questions Raised in Consultation 41
minimized risk of data breach. This de minimis approach could be applied to the
development of standard validation purpose protocols which could be reused on approval
by a central Data Governance function.
"Should specific provisions relating to the sharing of “anonymised” data be included?
Sharing of anonymised data reduces risk of breaches of data privacy rights. However,
anonymisation is neither absolute nor a panacea, particularly in this age of “Big Data”.
To quote from a recent Castlebridge Associates Whitepaper (O Brien):
“Recent research has highlighted the risks to personal privacy arising from the ability to
analyse large volumes of even anonymized data. For example:
• 80% of Netflix users can be re-identified from an anonymous data set based solely on
when and how they rated movies they had rented (Narayan and Shmatikov)
• Researchers analysing anonymous Facebook “Likes” (Kosinskia, Stillwell and Graepel)
were able to:
o Identify sexual orientation in men with a .88 probability
o Distinguish between African Americans and Caucasian Americans with 0.95 probability
o Distinguish between Republican voters and Democrat voters with a 0.85 probability”
These weaknesses with anonymized data are not new. The Castlebridge Associates
whitepaper continues:
“As far back as 1990, researchers demonstrated how it was possible to re-identify 87% of
the US population based only on the five digit Zip code, gender, and date of birth
(Sweeney). In that context legislative restrictions or mandates to anonymize data are
toothless where organisations lack controls to prevent re-identification of that data. Those
controls constitute a definable set of decision rights, responsibilities, and accountabilities
which must be defined in organisations to ensure that the wrong things are not done with
the right data.”
In that context it would be appropriate for the Bill to provide a firm legislative basis for
Data Governance controls preventing the re-identification of anonymised data sets and
requiring data sharing arrangements to ensure that appropriate controls and governance
is in place with all parties to a data sharing arrangement to mitigate the risk of re-
identification.
In order to support the accountability requirement of Data Governance, the Bill should
include clear and robust penalties for unauthorized re-identification of anonymised data
by, for example, combining multiple anonymised data sets to create an identifiable entity.
Furthermore, operational governance of data sharing should require that any key data
capable of re-identifying data (e.g. look up tables for pseudonymised data, encryption
keys for anonymized data, or similar) should be kept separate from Consultation on Data
Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals • • •
Detailed Responses to Specific Questions Raised in Consultation 42
the actual data itself. This is a basic organizational and technological step that can be
taken to protect data.
In this context it is worth bearing in mind the Article 29 Working Group Opinion on the
definition of Personal Data and the definition of Personal data in the draft General Data
Protection Regulation as “personal data” is no longer simply names and addresses but
spans a range of data that would enable an individual to be singled out.
Do you agree that “The problem [of data governance] is therefore primarily one of better
implementation, rather than an absence of legislation.”?
No. Data Governance is a cultural and procedural issue that may be defined as, "A
system of decision rights and accountabilities for information-related processes, executed
according to agreed-upon models which describe who can take what actions with what
information, and when, under what circumstances, using what methods". Neither this
question nor the overall proposal address Data Governance as defined here in a
meaningful way.
In particular we would question the ultimate value of a ‘point solution’ for data governance
in this Bill focused simply on data sharing. Case by case data governance requirements
are already dealt with within existing legislation and the implementation of data sharing
agreements. The sharing of data between SUSI and Revenue is a key example, with very
specific terms introduced in data processor agreements on the SUSI side regarding the
scope and nature of the processing3.
3 Castlebridge Associates provides Data Protection and Data Governance advisory
services to both the CDETB and SUSI and was directly involved in the Data Protection
aspects of SUSI from very early. We directly negotiated and defined the Data
Governance framework between SUSI and Revenue.
We believe that, to be effective and to support effective reform of the Public Service, this
Bill must introduce a general framework for Data Governance that supports
standardization of methods and procedures, develops a lingua franca for the meaning
and purpose of common data elements in the Public Service, and ensures that there is a
robust framework of decision rights and responsibilities supported by actionable
accountability.
Regarding the provisions that are considered likely for inclusion in the Bill: Provision
Comment
Transparency The publishing of data sharing arrangements and informing individuals of
the legal basis for the processing of their data is to be welcomed, indeed it is a
requirement under the “Fair Obtaining/Fair Processing” obligations under Directive
95/46/EC
In formulating our response to this question we conducted research on the operation of
the New Zealand Approved Information Sharing Arrangements model, as set out in Part
9A of the New Zealand Privacy Act, as amended by the Privacy Amendment Act 2013
(New Zealand Parliament). This legislation bears a striking similarity to the Data Sharing
provisions currently under review.
We note that the New Zealand legislation requires the publication of a central register of
Data Sharing arrangements under Schedule 2A of the Acts. This schedule is under the
oversight of the New Zealand Privacy Commissioner. An analogous schedule of uses of
data exists under Section 262 of the Social Welfare Consolidation Act 2005 where all
users of PPS Numbers must be listed under Schedule 5 of that legislation. The
Department of Social Protection’s Client Identity Service has published a register of users
for the PPS number. However, in the absence of a formal statutory basis, this register is
incomplete and out of date. Given that this is the public source of information about who
is entitled to use PPS Numbers, and indeed the only source of information other than
trawling through legislation, we would submit that the management and maintenance of
this Register is a critical piece of effective Data Governance for public sector data which
is effectively ignored in practice.
The New Zealand legislation requires that any party processing shared data provide prior
notice of adverse action. This echoes the provision in the proposed Bill. We note that the
New Zealand legislation allows for a 10 working day window for an individual to dispute
the correctness of personal information used to make a decision. This aligns with the
rights of the individual under Section 6A of the Irish Data Protection Acts 1988 and 2003.
The New Zealand model does not codify the allocation of responsibility or accountability
in the event of a breach of a data sharing agreement. A breach is viewed as being legally
equivalent to a breach Data Protection principles in the Privacy Act and is dealt with
accordingly. Given the former Data Protection Commissioner’s parting comments on Irish
public sector attitudes to and enforcement of Data Protection internally, this does not
instill confidence that a Lead agency model as operated in New Zealand would work in
the Irish Public Service.
It is interesting to note that the New Zealand model distinguishes between Information
Sharing and Information Matching (http://www.privacy.org.nz/…/information-matching-
reports-a…/) This is in line with our concerns regarding the current definition of data
sharing in the proposed Bill which conflate a number of different types of information
exchange under a single “data sharing” heading.. A separate register is kept of data
matching that is taking place and under what legislative provisions. We believe this would
be a worthwhile addition to the overall governance of and transparency of existing data
interchange in the Irish Public Service, as currently there is no readily accessible central
register of any information interchange and its statutory basis in the Irish Public Sector.
The New Zealand model in this instance goes beyond simply listing the legislative section
and processes that apply the information, but includes a large amount of business and
technical metadata detailing the purpose for the matching process, the data used, and
operational statistics.
We also note that the New Zealand model currently has only two Approved Information
Sharing arrangements in place, with only one of them having had any reporting obligation
in the most recent financial year. There has been insufficient volume of Information
Sharing arrangements and Consultation on Data Sharing & Governance Bill Proposals • •
•
Detailed Responses to Specific Questions Raised in Consultation 46
insufficient duration of operation for the full range of potential issues with this approach to
have emerged. It must therefore be concluded that there is therefore insufficient evidence
available at this time to confirm the effectiveness or otherwise of the New Zealand model
for information sharing in the Public Sector.
We would expect the specifics of implementation of the New Zealand model to evolve as
the number of and complexity of information sharing arrangements increases and
specific challenges arise to the effectiveness of the lead agency model. We suggest that,
rather than copying verbatim the New Zealand model, the Data Governance and Sharing
Bill incorporate proven Data Governance practices from other private and Public Sector
organisations as well as taking relevant inspiration from the New Zealand model.
We also note that the oversight of Information Sharing in New Zealand rests with the
Privacy Commissioner. While we recognize this may be appropriate in the New Zealand
context, we would be of the view that this would be inappropriate in an Irish context for a
number of reasons including:
1. Requirement to maintain effective segregation of duties
2. Narrow focus on just Data Privacy issues rather than wider issues of data
interoperability, standards etc.
We address this aspect in more detail in our response to the next question.
Legislation vs Implementation
As to the question of legislation vs. implementation, this is potentially a false dichotomy.
Legislation already exists, however culture, values, and clearly defined and applied
decision rights and accountabilities to drive application of and adherence to legislation
are absent. Addressing that will result in better implementation.
We will further expand upon the definition and function of data governance in the
“Defining Data Governance” section of this document.
"Should the Data Protection Commissioner have a role in monitoring and reporting on
compliance with these governance provisions?
The Data Protection Acts 1988 and 2003 already give the Data Protection Commissioner
a role in the monitoring of compliance with the requirements of Data Protection
legislation
Information matching reports and reviews
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TDs' wages jump to over €96,000 after pay
hike - here's what the political parties have
said about it so far
TDs have received a 1.75 per cent pay increase Stock picture
Anne-Marie Walsh
September 1 2019
TDs' wages have jumped to over €96,000 a year following
a pay rise over the weekend.
They will receive a 1.75 per cent pay increase that boosts
their wages by over €1,600 a year in their next pay check.
And their salaries are set to rise even closer to
the €100,000 mark next year.
Another increase that is also due under the Public Service
Stability Agreement will bring their €96, 89 wages up to
€98,113 on October 1 2020.
A senator's salary rose to €68,111 due to the 1.75pc pay rise
that took effect today for all public servants under the
Public Service Stability Agreement.
TDs' pay rises under this wage deal because it is pegged at
the same level as principal officers in the civil service.
Their pay is now close to where it stood on the brink of the
economic crash in 2008 when it was €100,191, although
the Taoiseach's was far higher at €285,583.
The Taoiseach and ministers have voluntarily given up the
pay rises to the state - although their pensions will still be
based on their salaries with the increases.
Leo Varadkar's pay is €185,350 a year due to the decision
to waive the increases, but with the increases his gross
salary stands at €207,590 and is set to rise to €211,742
next year.
Most of the political parties said it was up to individual
members to decide whether to accept the pay rises.
However, People before Profit TDs will not personally
accept the increases, according to a party spokesperson.
"In line with our longstanding policy and pre-election
commitments none or our TDs will personally benefit
from this pay award but will continue to receive the
average industrial wage," he said.
He said the party would not return the money "to a Fine
Gael government" but will use it to support campaigning
activities and causes that "put people and planet before
profit".
A Sinn Féin spokesperson said it is a matter for individual
TDs and senators to decide whether to accept the pay
rises.
But he said they "are already well paid and we don't
believe this increase is justified".
"Those struggling on low pay in the public and private
sectors, need to be the priority when it comes to pay
restoration and pay increases", he said.
A Green Party spokesperson said its TDs will accept the
increase and Fianna Fáil said it does not have a party
policy on the issue so it is a matter for each individual to
decide.
A Department of Public Expenditure and Reform
spokesperson said it is a matter for individual TDs and
Senators as to whether or not to waive the increases.
She confirmed that waiving the increases has no impact on
the calculation of retirement benefits. "They are based on
the full salary rate in the normal way," she said.
"A government decision was made in 2016 that, on the
basis of personal waivers, members of the government and
minister of state would not benefit from the restoration of
benefits of the FEMPI Act 2015," she said.
"The Taoiseach, ministers and ministers of state will not
benefit from increases under the terms of the PSSA."
Although he is not accepting the pay rises, Tanaiste Simon
Coveney's gross pay is now €191,403 with yesterday's pay
rise and will increase to €195,231 next year.
Likewise, a minister's pay rose to €175,699 yesterday and
will hit €179,213 next year, while a minister of state's gross
pay will rise from €134,976 to €137,676 next year.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/tds-wages-jump-to-over-
96000-after-pay-hike-heres-what-the-political-parties-have-said-about-it-so-far-
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Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl. Photo: Tom Burke
Cormac McQuinn and Hugh O'Connell
October 25 2019
Votegate TDs Timmy Dooley and Niall Collins are coming under pressure to
provide phone records to a Dáil probe into the matter.
Fine Gael last night claimed the records should be examined as part of an
ethics investigation that is to start next week.
The two TDs along with Lisa Chambers and Barry Cowen have apologised for
their involvement in last week's bizarre Dáil session that sparked the
'phantom voting' saga.
They now face an agonising wait to learn if they will be punished for their
actions including possible suspension.
A probe carried out by the clerk of the Dáil, Peter Finnegan, makes no findings
against any of the TDs and does not recommend any sanctions.
Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl told the Dáil that "due process" must be
followed and the committee must do its work first. Mr Ó Fearghaíl said that
after this, "if there are to be sanctions, it's for this House and this House alone
to decide".
The Votegate storm began after the Irish Independent revealed that Mr
Dooley's vote was recorded six times last week despite his absence. Mr Collins
later admitted he had pressed Mr Dooley's voting button in the mistaken
belief Mr Dooley was present at the back of the chamber.
Video footage shows the pair having a brief conversation before Mr Dooley
points to his seat and leaves the Dáil chamber. Mr Dooley told the Dáil clerk's
investigation he was telling Mr Collins: "I'll see you at the vote but I have to
make a call."
Mr Collins, meanwhile, is seen in the footage taking a quick phone call while
he was in the chamber voting for Mr Dooley. The Limerick TD told the Dáil
inquiry he couldn't recall who phoned him.
Mr Collins also said he couldn't explain why he stopped voting for Mr Dooley
in the series of eight votes, having pressed his colleague's voting button in the
first six.
Last night Fine Gael heaped pressure on both men saying their phone records
should be provided to the ethics inquiry.
"If the deputies involved want to prove their case it's an obvious way to do it,"
said party chairman Martin Heydon.
Mr Cowen apologised for "carelessness" in sitting in the wrong seat for last
week's voting session.
Party leader Micheál Martin said Mr Dooley and Mr Collins remain suspended
from the Fianna Fáil front bench. He said what happened was "wrong" but hit
out at Fine Gael and others for what he argued were partisan attacks on
Fianna Fáil.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/votegate-tds-now-face-
pressure-to-hand-over-phone-records-38629524.html
Votegate': Howlin recalls
how Dick Spring came
into Dáil on a stretcher to
vote
1
Labour leader Brendan Howlin. Photo: Frank McGrath
Kevin Doyle
October 24 2019
"I remember myself coming out of the chamber one evening and meeting
Martin Cullen who suffered terribly with his back.
"He was ashen with agony and I said to him ‘for God’s sake, you’re not
physically fit to be here’. But the Whips said he had to be there to vote.
"Up to this Dáil, votes were deadly serious matters and people took them
deadly seriously."
Mr Howlin blames confidence and supply for the current ‘Votegate’
controversy, saying the Government now regularly loses votes and nobody
pays attention.
"I remember the debate when electronic voting was being brought in.
Originally what I understood was going to happen was that we would all have
our own identity cards," Mr Howlin said.
"Originally the idea was that you would slot the card, as they do in the
European Parliament, into the voting machine and that would activate the
voting machine.
"The Whips got worried that TDs would turn up without their card and that
they would lose close votes. They were afraid that some TDs would simply not
be able to vote."
Also the ‘Floating Voter’, he discusses the latest developments on Brexit and
suggests the Labour Party will enter a coalition after the next election if they
have the numbers
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/the-floating-voter-
on-votegate-howlin-recalls-how-dick-spring-came-into-dil-on-a-
stretcher-to-vote-38628533.html
FORMER Tánaiste Dick Spring had to be brought into the Dáil on a stretcher
to vote after a serious road accident, Labour Party leader Brendan Howlin has
recalled.
The Wexford TD said up until the current Dáil, voting was seen as being of
"monumental importance" but it has now been "cheapened".
"I remember myself coming out of the chamber one evening and meeting
Martin Cullen who suffered terribly with his back.
"He was ashen with agony and I said to him ‘for God’s sake, you’re not
physically fit to be here’. But the Whips said he had to be there to vote.
"Up to this Dáil, votes were deadly serious matters and people took them
deadly seriously."
Mr Howlin blames confidence and supply for the current ‘Votegate’
controversy, saying the Government now regularly loses votes and nobody
pays attention.
"I remember the debate when electronic voting was being brought in.
Originally what I understood was going to happen was that we would all have
our own identity cards," Mr Howlin said.
"Originally the idea was that you would slot the card, as they do in the
European Parliament, into the voting machine and that would activate the
voting machine.
"The Whips got worried that TDs would turn up without their card and that
they would lose close votes. They were afraid that some TDs would simply not
be able to vote."
Also the ‘Floating Voter’, he discusses the latest developments on Brexit and
suggests the Labour Party will enter a coalition after the next election if they
have the numbers
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Former Tánaiste Dick Spring had to be brought into the Dáil on a stretcher to
vote after a serious road accident, Brendan Howlin has recalled.
The Wexford TD said up until the current Dáil, voting was seen as being of
"monumentally importance" but it has now been "cheapened".
"I remember Dick Spring being carried in on a stretcher to vote. In tight votes,
he was required to be present and physically brought into the chamber
because at the time he wasn't allowed a pair," Mr Howlin says.
"I remember myself coming out of the chamber one evening and meeting
Martin Cullen who suffered terribly with his back.
"He was ashen with agony and I said to him, 'for God's sake, you're not
physically fit to be here'. But the whips said he had to be there to vote.
"Up to this Dáil, votes were deadly serious matters and people took them
deadly seriously."
He said the machines are already equipped for log-in cards but parties
previously argued against them.
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Billy Kelleher. Photo: Gareth Chaney, Collins
Fianna Fáil MEP Billy Kelleher has said he would have
backed a proposal for the EU to step up search-and-rescue
operations for refugees in the Mediterranean - but he had
to catch a flight home.
The resolution was defeated by just two votes in the
European Parliament in Strasbourg on Thursday with all
four of Fine Gael’s MEPs voting it down. The party has
defended its decision claiming the resolution as worded
would have endangered more lives.
Mr Kelleher was not present and nor was another Irish
MEP, the independent Clare Daly. She was spotted
walking into Leinster House in Dublin on Thursday
evening.
Mr Kelleher, who was elected to the European Parliament
in May, said on Twitter that he "100% would have voted in
favour of this resolution".
However, he said that the voting block had been slow to
get underway and he had to leave at 12.45pm in order to
get a bus to Frankfurt in Germany where he then flew to
Dublin before travelling home to Cork.
Mr Kelleher wrote: "Yesterday, I voted on over 140
amendments and resolutions. Included in these were votes
in favour of many GUE/NGL amendments supporting
their position on refugees and migrants.
"However, voting was slow to start and as such I had to
leave at 12:45 in order to compete my 2.5 hour bus journey
to Frankfurt in order (sic) catch my flight back to Dublin
and then onto Cork."
Ms Daly did not respond to an immediate request for
comment on Friday.
Clare Daly speaking to the media (Niall Carson/PA)
Other Irish MEPs, including Green MEPs Ciarán Cuffe and Grace O'Sullivan,
Sinn Féin’s Matt Carthy, and Independents Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan and Mick
Wallace backed the resolution. Sinn Féin heavily criticised Fine Gael's
opposition to it.
The resolution called for EU member states to "enhance proactive search and
rescue operations by providing sufficient vessels and equipment specifically
dedicated to search and rescue operations and personnel, along the routes
where they can make an effective contribution to the preservation of lives" in
the Mediterranean.
The vote was held just a day after 39 Chinese nationals were found dead in a
lorry in Essex. It is believed they were smuggled into the UK.
Fine Gael MEP Maria Walsh defended her decision and that of her colleagues
Mairead McGuinness, Frances Fitzgerald and Sean Kelly to vote it down.
"What we see in Essex is that we have an incredibly serious issue with human
trafficking that we need to solve but sharing information on the most
vulnerable is not the way to do it," she said.
"We need to get back to the drawing board and fast. This report was loose in
language. It was putting NGOs at risk."
Fine Gael MEP Mairead McGuinness was one of those who voted
against
Sad, sad day for me. An MEP vote around supporting the
rescue of drowning migrants in the Mediterranean has
been defeated.
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Fine Gael MEP Mairead McGuinness was one of those who voted
against (Niall Carson/PA)
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Irish concerns can't be
dismissed - migration is
not just responding to
crises,' insists Taoiseach
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Recognition: Taoiseach Leo Varadkar presents Lt Catherine Smyth
with her International Peacekeeping Medal for her work in Mali
during his visit to the African country
Laura Larkin
January 12 2019
The concerns of Irish people about migration cannot be dismissed, but Ireland has
proved more welcoming than other parts of Europe, the Taoiseach has insisted.
Leo Varadkar was speaking in crowded UNHCR refugee camp Mai-Aini in northern
people from Eritrea, a country under a
Ethiopia. Here, thousands of
totalitarian dictatorship, have fled in search of a better life.
Many believe that life lies in Europe and hope to travel there.
Others are keen to find a home in the so-called 'second
country' of Ethiopia.
The border between the two nations has only recently been
reopened, leading to a flood of people across it, thanks to an
open door policy on refugees despite the complex challenges it
faces domestically.
The visit marked the final day of the Taoiseach's week-long trip
to Africa, during which he visited Mali and Ethiopia. In addition
to meeting the new, young and progressive prime minister of
the country, Abiy Ahmed, the Taoiseach also visited a number
of projects supported by Irish aid.
Ethiopia has been Ireland's key recipient of Irish aid and there
has been a diplomatic presence there for 25 years.
But the challenges facing the country are myriad, including
climate change, internal displacement due to conflict,
poverty, economic disadvantage and severe gender inequality.
But it was also the most effective way to address the migrant
crisis. Europe cannot afford to take a 30pc chunk of Africa's
population, he warned.
There are also other issues at play; with, in his own words,
power moving east and south there was a need to ensure
Europe retains a foothold in Africa.
During his brief stop in Mali to visit Irish peacekeepers who are
helping train Malian forces, the Taoiseach's delegation
travelled on a Chinese-built motorway.
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Another Woman FAILED by Cervical Check & Our Government!!! A 41 year old woman
who chooses to remain anonymous is terminally ill with Cervical Cancer & she is being
dragged through the court process in order to get what’s rightfully hers. Leo Varadkar
your Apology this week is nothing more than spin & an attempt to hoodwink us all. ALL
talk & no action!!!!! This woman’s Smear test was read incorrectly due to Negligence
under your watch. When are the people of this country going to Scream NO MORE
Kenny missed 96% of votes since stepping downSince
stepping down as taoiseach, Enda Kenny has failed to participate
in 96% of all Dáil votes that took place between June 2017 and
July 2019, RTÉ Investigates can reveal.
Traitor to the people of Ireland. Hero to the EU narcissists.
Death threat to TD who
hit out at ‘far-right
ideology’
A Sinn Féin TD has received a death threat after speaking out against a
“far-right ideology that is being peddled in this country” around asylum
seekers.
Today, shipping containers and lorries are the coffin ships of the 21st century. It
highlights the human tragedy of displacement and conflict. These coffin
containers are what many people fleeing persecution and war have to resort to
in order to get to safety.
The Sligo-Leitrim TD made an official complaint to the gardaí after
receiving a text message which dubbed him a “traitor” and threatened
that he should be “executed”.
Mr Kenny said: “I have been texted and I have been getting emails and
some of them are very nasty.”
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td-who-hit-out-at-far-right-ideology-959634.html
Just the day after 39 refugees were found suffocated to death in the back of a lorry in
Essex, England, a motion put forward in the European Parliament proposing that their
agencies make more of an effort to save the lives of refugees lost in the Mediterranean
was voted down, and incredulously, to loud cheers there from the worst of Europe's
unconscionable right wing and fascist alike.
Involved in that shameful and brutal dismissal of the sanctity of human life were four Fine
Gael MP's, who voted against, one Fianna Fail MP, and one Independent who chose not
to vote. It was lost by only two votes.
Its almost incomprehensible, and indeed unforgivable, that citizens from a country that
had in the so recent past, lost hundred's of thousands of fleeing refugees to the sea,
would even for a moment contemplate such a horrendous and wholly unchristian act.
Fine Gael's links to, and alliances to, some of the most distasteful right wing parties in
Europe have long caused some consternation, and even at their own grass-roots level.
Particularly so, their links to the hard right wing party of Victor Orban, of Hungary.
Now that support for the extreme right is almost reaching levels similar to that of 1930's
Europe, as politicians and media individuals alike who oppose their Machiavellian views
are threatened with violence, even death, are Fine Gael politicians, who describes
themselves as Christian Democrats, about to become little more than another such party
for the vacuous and ignorant Neanderthals who follow and revere the proponents of
racism and religious bigotry.
It beggars belief, that even as we move close to the universal annual celebrating of a
child born to dark skinned refugees from a foreign land, that anyone pertaining to even a
modicum of Christian values would vote to deny the most humanitarian and
compassionate of that child's teachings.
That those who voted to deny this human mercy while using the argument that it was too
advantageous to the smugglers, or that it will be revisited soon, are deceitful in the
extreme to apply a logic that on close inspection is bereft of any evidence or merit. What
is certain, is that thousands will die before it is visited again, over a thousand known
deaths this year alone. The images of hundreds of bodies, young and old, floating on the
sea bed are both heartbreaking and harrowing beyond belief.
This was a vote desired by the most extreme of right wing European leaders, especially
those who don't want any refugees, whether living or dead, appearing on their shores.
Ironically, those individuals who out of pity will take to the sea to rescue the drowning,
may themselves be identified as criminals, and refused refuge as a result of a gross
injustice that is condoned and supported by the Irish government.
It's been a shameful week for Irish politics, and politicians. That is if you could ever
shame some Irish politician. Those who took part in this brutal betrayal of fellow human
beings are worth shaming, the four who voted, and the two who turned their back and
allowed the result to carry.
It would be only right as well to name those who had the decency to stand up to the most
callous and brutal in Europe.
Matt Carthy. Sinn Fein, Ciarán Cuffe and Grace O'Sullivan, The Green Party, and
Independent's, Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan and Mick Wallace, all voted in an effort to continue
saving lives. Fianna Fáil’s Billy Kelleher, and independent Clare Daly's votes weren't
recorded. Whatever reason they had for that, I hope it was a good one.
The other's, above, you probably know well. Have a good look, they may come to your
door one day with their fake smiles and asking for your vote. There is no good reason to
either return their smiles, or give them your vote.
"When good people in any country cease their vigilance and struggle, then evil men
prevail.”
Fitzgeralds a fuckin boot who oonly cares about herself i cant believe she gets voted in by a
working class area
As for kelly an out and out scumbucket
If the western world stops bombing their country to claim the oil and gold.
THEN THERE WOULD BE NO REFUGEES.
Fine Gael's Justice Minister, Charlie Flanagan, tweeted that it was a "real
pleasure" to meet athlete Brandon Arrey during his hate speech consultation,
and said he was "Delighted to wish him all the very best personally & for
Ireland." Below are some of the tweets from this legislation's posterboy. This
is the man lecturing you on "hate speech". This person wants to legally ban
you from being able to say certain things because they might be too hateful
and offensive. Just let that sink in.
#DefendOurSpeech
Dear God(of whatever kind, few of which seem to say let drowning people die), if you
exist and there's a heaven and a hell, here's a quick list for you from Ireland's MEP's of
where they're going! They all voted no not to save any refugees
McVerry: Government’s
homeless plan not
working
Tuesday, October 22, 2019
The Government must concede that its strategy to reduce
homelessness is not working, according to leading campaigner Fr Peter
McVerry. He said society should be outraged at the image which
emerged last week of a homeless five-year-old eating his dinner off
cardboard on a street in Dublin.
“It is more than three years since they introduced Rebuilding Ireland —
their strategy to reduce homelessness — and virtually every single
month for the last three years the number of homeless people has gone
up. At what point do you say our strategy is not working? We have got
to revisit it. The emperor has no clothes. The emperor won’t
acknowledge that they have no clothes.
If you were running a business losing money and you were asked to come up
with a strategy to reduce those losses, if after three years the company was not
just losing money, but losing more money every month, somebody would say
that strategy isn’t working. I think we have to apply that to the Government’s
strategy on homelessness.
Fr McVerry was speaking during a visit to the Cork Penny Dinners soup
kitchen yesterday for the launch of its first supported housing project.
The charity has bought and renovated a city centre apartment which
will provide a home with a range of wraparound supports to six people
from next month.
The image of a child eating his food off a piece of cardboard on the
streets of the capital should outrage society, leading campaigner for
the homeless, Fr Peter McVerry believes.
But the Jesuit, who has been fighting homelessness for over 40 years,
said what really annoys him is Government appeals for more time amid
claims their policies are working.
“If you were running a business losing money and you were asked to
come up with a strategy to reduce those losses, if after three years the
company was not just losing money, but losing more money every
month, somebody would say that strategy isn’t working," he said.
It created a huge stir and government ministers were on the media affirming
we’ve got to do better than this.
Then the number of homeless children passed 2,000, then it passed
3,000. Soon it’s going to pass 4,000.
But he said the homeless crisis can be solved if the government ramps
up construction of local authority housing - by the thousands - and is
open in the short-term to radical solutions, such as the CPO-ing of
vacant buildings where their owners can’t or won’t bring them back
into use, and the outlawing for three years of private sector evictions
into homelessness until the state gets to grips with the problem.
They are not on the side of tenants who are struggling to pay the rent or people
who are struggling to pay a mortgage.
He also criticised former Lord Mayor of Cork, Cllr Des Cahill, for
suggesting homeless people shouldn’t be given tents.
Fr McVerry said: “What does he expect? You wouldn’t have to hand out
tents if the council did its job and provided accommodation for
homeless people. It’s much better to have a tent to sleep in than to
sleep in the rain.”
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No checks on TDs who
'fob in' for up to €34,000
in expenses claims
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Inquiry call: Paul Murphy of the RISE political grouping says there
are not sufficient safeguards to prevent abuse of the ‘fobbing in’
system.
Hugh O'Connell
October 26 2019
TDs can claim up to €34,000 in expenses, but there is no way of
independently checking whether they themselves are "clocking in" in order to
qualify for the money.
The Ceann Comhairle has been urged to investigate the "fobbing-in" system
on foot of the Votegate controversy, amid concerns it could be open to abuse.
Deputies must have a minimum of 120 days' attendance built up over the year
in order to qualify for the travel and accommodation allowance (TAA), which
is calculated based on how far a TD lives from Leinster House.
Dublin TDs typically qualify for an allowance of €9,000 a year, while TDs
living more than 360km from the Oireachtas in places like Kerry and west
Cork can qualify for just over €34,000 a year.
Deputies must self-certify their expenses at the end of the year and correct any
discrepancies, including expenses claimed where they have not met the 120-
day minimum attendance rate.
However, RISE socialist TD Paul Murphy has said in the wake of the Votegate
controversy - which exposed the practice of TDs voting for colleagues who
were elsewhere in the chamber or, in one instance, not in the Dáil at all - the
"fobbing in" system needs to be investigated by Oireachtas authorities.
The Dublin South-West deputy raised the issue during the Dáil debate on
Votegate on Thursday.
"We all know that there is a system of 'fobbing in', in order to receive the full
allowance that is not subject to any camera check and is even more open to
abuse than the voting system," Mr Murphy said.
"Is it the case that deputies are getting others to 'fob in' for them to get up to
the figure of 120 days? Because if they are willing or able to get others to vote
for them when they are not in the chamber, why on earth would they not get
somebody to fob in for them in order that they can clock in to receive their
expenses?"
In a letter to Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl yesterday, Mr Murphy called
for the system to be investigated to establish if there is any wrongdoing
occurring.
"No proof is required that the person fobbing is a TD, and some of these
machines are located in areas not being observed by any Oireachtas staff," he
wrote.
"It certainly seems clear to me that there are not sufficient safeguards
currently in place to prevent that from taking place.
"As you know, if someone in a regular workplace got someone else to fob in for
them, they would very likely be fired.
"A review could ascertain whether it is possible to establish whether the fob-in
system has been abused in the past, and what measures could be taken to
prevent any future abuse."
The spokeswoman added: "All clocks/terminals are in public areas and the fob
used by members is distinct from that used by staff, so it would be fairly
obvious if a staff member was using a member's fob."
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Hugh O'Connell
October 26 2019
Independent TDs Michael and Danny Healy-Rae have missed more than eight
out of every 10 Dáil voting sessions held in the last two years.
Figures compiled by the Irish Independent show that in the last two years the
Kerry-based brothers have an exceptionally poor attendance rate for the
weekly voting block that takes place every Thursday when the Dáil is in
session.
The Thursday voting block - where multiple votes on legislation and motions
that have been debated in the Dáil that week are held in one go - has been a
source of controversy in the wake of the Votegate controversy where it was
revealed that Fianna Fáil TD Niall Collins cast six votes for his absent
colleague Timmy Dooley just over a week ago.
The newly compiled figures show that Danny Healy-Rae has missed more
than 85pc of voting blocks on a Thursday in the past two years, showing up for
just 11 of the 71 Dáil sessions held on a Thursday since September 2017.
His brother Michael Healy-Rae has an even worse attendance rate, missing
nine out of 10 Thursday voting sessions in the same period. He has been
present for just seven of the 71 Thursday voting sessions in the same period.
This year alone Danny Healy-Rae has attended only two voting sessions on a
Thursday, while Michael Healy-Rae has attended only three.
The poor attendance of the Healy-Rae brothers, who are famed for their
devotion to constituency work in Kerry, has been noted by many in Leinster
House over recent years.
Their absence on Thursdays, including for last week's voting block - the first
since the Votegate debacle - was raised again by TDs privately this week.
"They pretty much never vote on a Thursday," one deputy said.
Michael Healy-Rae admitted his record "would not be good" but argued that
he has been paired with Fine Gael TDs on the last two Thursdays there have
been votes in the Dáil.
"My attendance would not be good on a Thursday," he said. "The best way I
could answer it is I'm not idle if I am not there voting on a Thursday. Nobody
will accuse me ever of abdicating on my political responsibilities.
"I take them very seriously and everybody in Co Kerry and around the country
knows that I take politics very seriously. Whether it's matters of local or
national importance when I am needed by people, whether in Donegal or
Kerry, I am there for them.
Contacted separately, Danny Healy-Rae said he could not account for where
he was on all of the days. "I am doing the best for the people I am representing
and I can't be two places at any one time or maybe three places or four places.
I am trying to maximise myself and do my best for the people I represent," he
said.
"I am not complaining but other fellas live nearer [to the Dáil] and I don't
begrudge that. I have to decide and prioritise where I will be more effective
and where I will be most needed or what's more important to the people that
vote for me."
Both brothers pointed out that votes on a Thursday in the current Dáil have
not been close and are often passed or defeated by large margins.
"In my father's [Jackie Healy-Rae] time it was one or two votes to decide on
whether legislation would go through. That is not the case now with new
politics as we'll call it," Michael Healy-Rae said.
Danny Healy-Rae added: "Most of the votes that go through there, they are
won by a margin of 70 or 80 and voting for something like that my vote isn't
going to make a difference.
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This is Fiona Prendergast. She died from Cervical Cancer in 2015. She was
35yrs old & a mother of four. This week her husband Gary received
confirmation that her death could have been prevented & was caused by
negligence on behalf of Cervical Check. Its important to note that Fiona
herself felt she had all the Symptoms of the late Jade Goody’s cancer but
both her Smears with Cervical Check in 2009 & 2012 came back clear. She
was diagnosed in 2014!! The RCOG review into her case concluded that her
2009 smear showed High Grade changes to the cells in her Cervix & it was
mis-diagnosed due to Negligence. It also concluded if she had been referred
for Colposcopy at this time her Cancer diagnosis would have been
prevented. Its Ironic how her husband Gary received this news the day our
The children of the 25%. They are guaranteed a life of luxury in politics - like their GOD
Enda Kenny who has lived off us taxpayers for 40 years and has never really did an
honest day's work .
And all because too many of the ordinary people of Ireland won't bother voting.
My blood boils, but the worst thing is working class people vote for them.
The people who make the decisions don't care what way you vote, and this is the same of all
departments. Your elected ministers are the public face of the office they attend.
As the Fennelly report suggests the cabinet has very little influence on policies made by the
state.
20 OCT 2019
The stricken individual was found on Henry Street in the early hours of
Monday morning in an unresponsive state.
A spokesperson for FOH said: "Last night while FOH outreach team were
carrying out there usual nightly route in the city centre. Our team came across
a homeless guy lying on the ground unconscious on Henry Street.
"Due to the quick thinking and training from our volunteers they certainly did
save this young man's life.
Training our volunteers within FOH certainly does make a difference as our
volunteers are prepared to deal with any situation that may occur whilst
carrying out FOH front line service calmly and processionally.
"Well done to the FOH volunteers late night. Amazing team work. The
management here at FOH would also like to thank the ambulance crew who
arrived very quick to the scene to help the young homeless man recover.
And the snapshot survey by the charity found just 55 out of the 1,491
properties in 16 areas were affordable for those receiving standard HAP.
During the study, which was carried out from July 30 to August 2, a further
469 (31.5%) were found to be within Housing Assistance Payment discretion
limits. Simon Community spokesman Wayne Stanley said: “We are now at a
point where it is becoming startlingly obvious the Government’s Rebuilding
Ireland Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness is not driving the level of
change in our housing system that is required.
“The structural foundation of housing provision in Ireland is not fit for purpose.”
HAP is a type of rental benefit payment to provide assistance to lower-income
people and
families.
Under the scheme, a tenant’s primary rent is paid directly to a landlord, while
the person renting pays a different rent to their local council. The average cost
of renting in Dublin was €1,713 a month between April and June this year – a
€114 increase compared with the same quarterly period last year.
However, the city council’s limit for standard HAP in the capital is €1,300 for a
family four – with the local authority having a 20% discretion to go higher than
that.
The report also reveals single people and couples were worst affected by
availability, with just four properties nationwide available to rent in those
categories.
Mr Stanley added: “Every day the Simon Communities in Ireland and others,
are ending homelessness for individuals and families.
“In the interim, low income families and individuals must be given the chance
to find a home. In Budget 2020, we are calling for an increase in Rent
Supplement and Housing Assistance Payment rates to ensure they are kept in
line with market rents.”
Meanwhile, the report found no properties were available to rent within
standard or discretionary HAP limits across eight study areas for a single
person or couple.
These areas were Limerick city centre, Limerick city suburbs, Waterford city
centre, Portlaoise, Sligo town, Galway city centre, Cork city suburbs and
Athlone.
The study was extended to five new areas for the first time – Dublin city north,
Dublin city south, Limerick city suburbs, Galway city suburbs and Cork city
suburbs.
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I'm in Belfast at the moment for my birthday was going for pizza last night two young
homeless young people 1 man 1 woman looked no more than 25 yrs old. Myself and my
partner was on the way in to get a take away pizza. I felt such a pain in my gut to see
them sitting on the concrete. They didn't ask for anything from anyone. They were
chatting away to eat other having a few laughs. I was in ordering my pizza when I thought
about how could I eat it knowing these two people might be hungry. I can't judge them
and say they became homeless because of drink or drugs but if I did give them money
and if they did buy drugs I'd feel guilty. I decided to go out and ask them would they like a
pizza. I approached them and kneeled down and asked them would they like a pizza.
The young man replied are you serious I said yes his whole face lit up. He tapped the girl
and said we are getting a pizza they discussed what they would have on the pizza. A few
mins later I brought the pizza out to them. Just as I did a lady arrived with a warm coat
and blankets to them. They were so grateful to see the look on their faces was better to
me than all the cool stuff il be doing all weekend. I'm not posting this for attention or for
anyone to say I'm great. But for a few reasons.. We all make mistakes but we should
never judge others. Show compassion to others and open your eyes to people less
fortunate. The gift of giving gives you much more joy than the gift of receiving. Also what
can we do more as individuals or groups to help the homeless because there has to be
something. Pray for all less fortunate than us.
Michael Ring furious
over secrecy on
plans for asylum
seekers
Stephen O’Brien, Political Editor
October 27 2019
The Sunday Times
Global politics
Law
Politics
UK politics
Michael Ring expressed his anger that news was ‘all over the internet'
before he had any information
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god knows what region if rhe world, he's a smart boy, but... He wasn't that smart, something went
badly wrong on that shift, I read all he's been charged with, I'm actually shocked... another man from
NI has also been arrested, it's shocking, god love them families involved, I don't think they were they
meant to die, weather they where trying to get shifted on the QT I genuinely don't think they where
meant to have been killed, and money laundering, you can't hide all that stuff he had and not be able to
explain what n where it came from, its scary, and his wife? Did she know about tbis, id be having a
fit, no money in this world would rule me, or keep me quiet of any wrong involvement my hubby
would be doing, if it involved smuggling humans I'm sorry but he'd be arrested, I'm no angel, but I'd
never let my man smuggle humans and be in that situation, I don't know what to make of the whole
thing,
Assets recovery will take the shirt of his back, the whole lot is gone, set for live then you get
greedy, someone will. Fill his cowboy boots
I'm glad he was cot them people are ruthless they don't care about no one only them selves
greedy bastard's
What are your thoughts on the homeless crisis?
Here is a fact to begin with. Even if everyone not born in Ireland was to leave the country tomorrow, there would
still be homelessness. This is not because there wouldn’t, or couldn’t, be enough houses, it is because the housing
market is dominated by private ownership, in which individuals and corporations profit from the sale of homes. If
everyone was given a home, these individuals and corporations could not make a profit. The state in Ireland will
never undermine the people of money, the wealthy elites, who really run this country, by undermining their abiltiy
to make their profit. The same issue exists, and is increasingly coming to exist, in healthcare, education,
infrastructure, etc. The state has more than enough at its disposal to house everyone, to feed everyone, to take care
of everyone and to educate everyone, and could easily cater for everyone in Ireland and a great deal more. But if
they provide all of that free, or at least affordably, their chums with the big money would be out of pocket- so it
will not happen. This is capitalism. So rather than pick on a vulnerable family which has had to go through the
untold horror of leaving their home place, their loved ones, and everything they know, why not lay the blame at
the feet of those responsible-the state and the wealthy elites-and challenge them?
Next: many of you are only alive to write scathing posts about immigrants because your ancestors were kept alive
by foreign aid in times of crisis, most notably during the Great Hunger. That foreign aid was provided by countries
which had their own poor, starving and homeless people to deal with. Indeed during discussions in the US senate
regarding the sending of aid to Ireland, Senator John Niles of Connecticuit opposed such aid on the basis that:
“charity begins at home... why do we send money to assist foreign peoples, when some of our own citizens could
use it”. Had those who supported your predecessors taken the same attitude as you and John Niles, many of you
wouldn’t even be here to promote misguided propaganda against defenseless immigrants and refugees. Indeed it
was ‘foreigners’ who cared for us when the Irish people were dying as our ‘fellow’ wealthy Irish, complicit with
the English occupiers, profited from crop sales and land and property ownership.
So if you wish to ‘take care of’ those born in Ireland first, it would only be fair that you should allow for other
countries to do the same and let the Irish in every nation to which they have flocked, be returned, or left
unemployed or without a home because these other nations ‘take care of their own first’. We would be no better
off. In fact our rural communities would be decimated. If other countries applied this to even their second
generation Irish the whole country would be levelled. People wouldn’t have room to give out about all the
‘foreigners’ in the dole ques, on the housing lists, in the A & E rooms, or classrooms: but they would be worse off
again but with Micheáls, Seamuses, Saoirses and Aoifes. The people of the US, Australia, Canada, England and so
forth would no longer have to worry about Irish immigrants taking up their jobs and houses. Your English
counterparts who recently abused a teacher from Ireland living in England telling him they “couldn’t wait for
Boris and Brexit Party to make Brexit happen and send [him] and [his] lot back to f***ing Ireland,” would be
greatly pleased.
There are also those who are not ‘misguided’. Rather they are determined to exploit the housing crisis and other
issues to further their racist and fascist ideas. They should be given no quarter. Our proud tradition is one of
exporting our best to defeat the ideas of fascism and hate in other quarters of the world. We can never allow for it
to grow at home. Those promoting these ideas- the National Party and Yellow Vests Ireland among others are
sniping vermin who want to harangue and encourage further misery to be heaped on some of the weakest in our
society. For people so filled with concern for any foreign presence in Ireland, they have been remarkably silent on
the presence of foreign interference in the six counties. Of course that would involve actually challenging people
who might fight back, and not helpless families in dire straits. It would also mean upsetting their right-wing allies
in Britain, who offer active support to the British army which murdered civilians throughout this country. Compare
these gutter snipe halfwits with the heroes who died fighting the very ideas which they stand for: Dinny Coady of
Dublin, James Stranney of Belfast- two Labourers, working people among many others, who gave their lives
fighting Franco’s fascism which the aforementioned dirt want to promote here in Ireland. Fascists have only ever
set fine example when being hoisted by their feet by Partisans: their ideas will not take root here.
Look around the world today at the progressive movements who are tackling poverty and deprivation at its root: in
Ecuador, in Venezuela, in Cuba, in Chile, in Mexico and throughout the world. These are not fascist movements.
They are struggling to build societies reflective of the Republic envisaged by James Connolly (a Scottish
immigrant), a Republic which in his words “...should be of such a character that the mere mention of its name
would at all times serve as a beacon-light to the oppressed of every land, at all times holding forth promise of
freedom and plenteousness as the reward of their efforts on its behalf”.
There are many people who are genuinely, yet inexcusably, misguided in their belief that ‘foreigners’ are taking up
resources, you would do well to become conscious of your resenment and direct it accordingly at the source of the
problem. Directing anger over the current problems we face at immigrants simply allows the real culprits to go
unchallenged. This is a class issue: there is one class of oppressors which owns and controls our wealth, resources,
politics and laws: the capitalists, and there is the class of the oppressed, those who must work for them and/or live
in poverty and deprivation. The more we, the oppressed, divide ourselves based on religion, race, ethnicity,
nationality, sexual orientation and so forth, the less chance we have of challenging those who keep us in chains.
Saoradh’s position is clear: we stand for the Socialist Republic envisaged by Connolly, on the side of the
oppressed, and we stand firmly against the fascism and racism which would foster division amongst us.
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Backlash against
Varadkar over heating
remark
Mr Varadkar was criticised by opposition parties and elderly groups after flatly
rejecting Minister for Older People Jim Daly’s earlier plan for pensioners to keep
their heating on 24/7 over the coming days.
Speaking as the National Emergency Co-ordination Group (NECG) urged the public
to take all precautions as Ireland becomes blanketed in the worst snowfall in four
decades, Mr Varadkar said extra elderly funds are available.
However, despite Met Éireann predicting sub-zero temperatures, “significant” snow
fall, 110km winds ,and thunderstorms, he said a “blank cheque” will not be written
for the elderly.
“If we tell people that they can put on the heating 24/7 and
the Government or somebody else will pick up the bill,
regardless of what it is, we will send out the wrong message
to them,” Mr Varadkar told the Dáil.
His comments came after Mr Daly told pensioners to keep
the heat on constantly during the cold snap, saying there
was no point putting money before health.
However, Mr Daly last night backtracked on RTÉ’s Six One
News after Mr Varadkar said the view “is not the advice of
Government”.
Mr Varadkar and NECG chair Sean Hogan yesterday said the
€22.50c weekly fuel allowance helps 338,000 households
and two extra supports — an exceptional needs payment
and urgent needs payment — are also available.
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The comments came as a separate snow row descended last night after
record figures showed more than 9,000 people — including 3,267
children — are now without homes.
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MORE MONEY THAN
LOCAL AUTHORITIES
FOR SOCIAL HOUSING IN
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A new application to build in our park has been submitted. This time it's for 9 storey
blocks!
A fresh application has been lodged for over 650 apartments on lands
adjacent to St Anne’s Park by Crekav Trading, whilst their last
application remains in dispute in the High Court.
It states that the developers are looking to build nine blocks, ranging in height
from five to nine storeys, with 657 apartments set to be constructed across the
65,125sq m site at St Paul’s College.
The application, which was made directly to An Bord Pleanala (ABP) under
the strategic housing development plan, details that there will be 224 one-
bedroom apartments, 378 two-bed apartments and 55 three-bedroom units.
Permission is also being sought for 499 car parking spaces and 1646 bicycle
parking spaces.
The ‘I Love St Anne’s’ group posted about the new application on Facebook to
advise locals of the latest development in the saga, with nearby residents
voicing their frustration that the developers continue to push for the playing
pitches at St Paul’s College to be developed.
Commenting on the post about the new application, Gerry Maher said: “Crazy.
They just don’t give up. And it’s even higher than last proposal? How is that in
keeping with the area?” to which Melissa O’Callaghan replied, saying that
“every application comes back more ridiculous. It’s like they are arrogantly
punishing the objectors.”
On Wednesday, the I Love St Anne’s group said that they plan to launch a fund
raising campaign in the coming days, which they say will be to help the group
and local residents ‘access the very best experts who can challenge the current
planning application for St. Paul’s’.
Judicial review to be
sought into decision to
grant permission for over
500 homes on lands beside
St Anne's Park in Raheny
BY
Laura LyneReporter
• 17:43, 11 APR 2018
The original application received over 1,000 objections before it was
refused
A judicial review into the decision to build a housing development on lands beside St
Anne's Park is to be sought by locals in Raheny.
And An Bord Pleanala has been warned that many playing pitches across the country
are now in danger folllowing the granting of planning permission for over 500 homes
at St Paul's College.
The claims were made by Labour Senator Aodhán Ó Ríordáin who said the decision
to give permission for the development was "deeply disturbing and heartbreaking".
Senator Ó Ríordáin said: "The decision of An Bord Pleanála on April 3rd, to grant
permission to the construction of 536 units in St Paul's College at St Anne's Park is
deeply disturbing and heartbreaking to the thousands of residents who had objected to
the plan.
“An Bord Pleanála have rejected completely the views of all local Councillors, the
Chief Executive of Dublin City Council, Owen Keegan, local residents groups and
sports club in order to rule entirely in favour of the developer.
“The decision has thrown the zoning objectives of the City Development Plan into
question as every piece of land and playing field in Dublin protected by a Z15 zoning
is now open to substantial residential development.
Before and After. A packed Great Hall at Clontarf Castle tonight. We called this meeting
wondering if there was an appetite for a fight. Turns out there is. We were overwhelmed
with the response, thank you to everyone who turned up and everyone who donated or
made a pledge to donate to the campaign fund and thank you to those who have come
forward to offer their professional services to the campaign. Don't forget, if you missed
this meeting there will be another one in Raheny GAA tomorrow, Wednesday 11th at
8.00pm hosted by Cllr. Ciaran O'Moore. If you would like a copy of the slides presented
at this meeting, send us an email [email protected] and we will forward to you.
We will post a review of the meeting on the page tomorrow.
The planning body has granted permission for more than 400 apartments and 100
houses on lands at St Paul's College through their fast-track Strategic Housing
Development system.
Crekav Trading proposed the development of 104 houses and 432 apartments on land
which had previously been used as playing pitches.
Having met with the Clontarf Residents Association and the "I Love St Anne's"
campaign, we are pursuing the only legal avenue open to us, which is to seek a
judicial review of the decision in the courts.
“The time frame is short and the financial implications are potentially large, so
continuing support from the community at this stage will be crucial. It is important
that every community in Dublin gets involved in this conversation.
"This is one of the first controverisal decisions made following the movement of
planning applications for so called strategic developments of 100 or more housing
units to An Bord Pleanala. This effectively bypasses local government and removed a
core function from local authorites."
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Imperialism alive and kicking still, now the EU and the Irish are at it
because it was, is and always will be so successful until at some point
we stop playing their game.
Hide or report this
Chrissy Ni Dubhlaoich Everyone has a right to a home regardless of where they
are from. Refugees and immigrants are not to blame for the housing crisis, we are all
in the same boat. The blame lies solely with the government, this one and previous
ones. Lay blame where it belongs.
There are loads of empty flats in Central Dublin. Get the luas to the domnick stop. Get off it
and look across 122 bus nearby. boarded up. York Road Dun Laoghaire 2 empty houses,
large empty house near the medical centre that's near park point shopping centre. Some of
these are long therm empty houses 10 years plus.
Kevin Noel O Mahony Dirty scumbag, this is what the government wish to
replace us with! Over my dead body. A scumbag is a scumbag regardless of skin
colour.
Not bad for a failed business woman from Finglas in Dublin. With this much money swirling
around in her bank account she may even decide to pay the Revenue the few bob, not to mention
the people she left high and dry after her business went belly-up. Regina wants to be Taoiseach
too - if she can get Leo over to the EU to join BiG Phil Hogan in the EU millionaires club. So
don't disappoint the lady - DON'T vote in the General Election .. stay at home ... or de-register ...
or spoil your vote. That way Fine Gael and Regina can get another five years on the gravy train.
And "get yiz yer yiz psc ID card" (as Regina used to say before she moved to Meath East)
Enda D. Reynolds have they not changed their AGAIN to people before a name
change....or slitherdarity....or SOME other fucking thing??
Left wing is BOLLOCKS, The 'laber' party are 'Left Wing', as is their 'left wing'
president who has signed everything the little fucker has been presented with, most
alarmingly, the Water Bill, moved by alan pig snout Kelly and which turned EVERY
PERSON IN THE State INTO A customer of IRISH WATER BY
STATUTE....Meanwhile, the 'Laber party insist on joining hands and singing 'We'll
keep the Red Flag Flying'???
THE REAL RESON THIS BILL WILL NEVER BE PASSED IS THAT 100 OF
THE CURRENT TD's IN THE Doyle ARE landlords....
Fine Gael spoke about new politics before the last election but gave us nothing but the same old contempt for
democracy.
Indian Dick head Not Elected by irish people Get This message
you fucking faggot prick
ireland is NOT for sale.. it was given away years ago,to Multi
Nationals for nothing... all that remains is for the TD vultures to
screw as much as they can from expenses.....led by our Prime
Minister Tonto, the bundle of sticks, who tried unsuccessfully 3
years ago to STEAL €2,000 from his expenses....
Despite a media blackout on the 'story' , it was the Mail on
Sunday and the Sunday Times who revealted the pillow biters
attempted theft....forcing it to return the stolen money
So while people, mainly single parents, are jailed for non payment
of the €160 tv license, Tonto, the HIGHEST PAID PRIME
MINISTER IN THE ENTIRE EU, is allowed free.
Filth.....here it is with what it found in it's back stop - no doubt
claimed on expenses .
given his appalling ignorance of almost EVERYTHING,I wonder is he thinking 'is THIS
Gonorrhea or Chlamdia green?
25 October 2019
I decided to share the story I heard from my mother of Halloween
celebrations in 1940’s South Kildare. Her recollections were not of buying
fancy dress costumes and fireworks, but a simpler more creative time when
Ireland was in the grip of rationing, and children looked forward to a night of
fun, pranks, frightening the adults, general mischief and revelry.
The preparations by the local children began some weeks in advance, with
collecting and carefully storing hazelnuts gathered from the hedgerows,
selecting choice turnips from surrounding fields, and receiving gifts of apples
from the convent orchard, smuggled out to the children by a friendly nun.
Precious cardboard, paints, paper and cloth accessories were hoarded to be
used in mask making.
By the time Halloween arrived, turnips aplenty had been carved, candles lit
and some placed in windows, while others were strategically placed at
known scary haunted spots along the road. The children dressed in old
clothes, donned their home made masks, tied white shirts to sticks, and hid
in doorways and the greenery of the roadside hedges. From where they
would jump out with howls and shouts, waving the white shirts, to frighten
passers-by.
The adults too played their part, along with feigned fright (sometimes real)
sweets and treats were purchased and laid out for party cuisine, coins and
rings were hidden and baked in sweet currant cakes, and an occasional hard
pea or rag were also wrapped in grease-proof paper and added to the mix.
White enamel basins and tin baths were filled with water, apples and nuts
added, along with pennies, thrupenny bits, shillings and sixpence coins. A
line was attached from wall to wall in the kitchen, and apples were tied to it.
Children were blindfolded and encouraged to bite the apples, the odd bar of
soap was tied to the line too, for merriment value.
These Halloween games are similar to my own memories from the 1970’s,
and akin to tales from other parts of the country too. Before the shops
started selling the throwaway plastic Halloween tat, so popular nowadays.
Saucers were laid out on the table, and one was filled with water, one with
clay, others had a ring, a thimble and rosary beads placed on them. Children
were blindfolded and spun around, before being directed towards the
saucers, if they chose the water they would travel abroad, the ring meant
they would be married, the beads predicted a life in a religious order, the clay
foretold early death, and the thimble represented either their future as a
singleton or great skill as a dressmaker.
Cousins and neighbouring children along the road would visit each others
houses and delights and games galore were laid out in every home. Cakes,
toffees, Peggy's legs and gobstoppers were eaten, and an atmosphere of fun
and laughter accompanied ducking for apples, nuts and coins, trying to bite
apples on the line, and sometimes getting the soap instead. An evening of
childhood happiness, and a lot of cleaning up, and drying of floors for the
parents afterwards.
She recalls one night at a party in her grandparents, some men arriving later
on, and warning that the Púca (Pooka) was out in the fields. His timely
appearance was perhaps a convenient way of calling a halt to the children’s
wanderings.
Turnips carved by me will be displayed on Halloween, where visiting small
people will be rewarded with coins, nuts and apples, keeping some of the old
traditions alive in South Kildare. Wherever you are in the world, I wish you a
not too scary night, and Happy Halloween, to one and all.
his Is Our Ireland Island We should drugadict alvo ect we are the Ones that Stayed here I
love my country but a working man can't live here shame shameshame
The idea that refugees or asylum seekers are being housed before Irish people is a rotten, racist lie.
Minorities in Ireland are disproportionately affected by homelessness so in fact they are more likely to be
stuck on local authority housing waiting lists, a lot longer than Irish people.
Any attempt to pit housing and accommodation needs against each other is as good as dragging an Irish family out
of their home and making them homeless yourself. The government relishes the divide and conquer tactics as it
takes the blame off them and they can continue to drag their feet for years to come.
When you hear that statement "foreigners are housed before the Irish", bear in mind that "the Irish" here refers to
white people, as that's the only possible visible marker that could be identified as distinguishing someone from
being Irish as opposed to being a refugee. So Irish people of colour who are on a housing list and are ahead of a
white Irish person on a housing list are legitimate targets of hate and envy from those who push this racist
message.
Any legitimate anger you may feel about homelessness is automatically converted into government support the
minute you punch down instead of punching up.
Unless the housing movements can evict the racists they'll always be the lackeys of the private sector and the
government.
Some one should pass this on to the gimp Bimbo in the lap dog FF party who not only can't
remember her seat no. But also seems to have no idea of the law she reputedly has a
"degree" in. Wonder who she's related to.
Gardaí using PSC for vetting forms despite law
Friday, October 25, 2019
An Garda Síochána has been including the public services card (PSC) as an
identification option on Garda vetting forms used by businesses across the country, in
apparent violation of social welfare law.
As part of the vetting process, mandated by legislation enacted between 2012 and
2016, gardaí register affected organisations as requiring successful vetting for staff
before they can commence employment.
Vetting is required for any employees who may be working with either children or
vulnerable adults.
On foot of this, the relevant organisation requires applicants to fill out vetting forms.
But before that can happen the prospective employee is expected to verify their
identity to the satisfaction of the gardaí.
This is carried out via a points system, with 100 points required to reach the relevant
threshold, which in practice requires a form of identification and an acceptable
verification of address. The PSC represents the joint most valuable form of
identification per the live vetting forms, at 80 points, along with a driving licence.
However, the list of specified bodies under legislation which can request a PSC in
exchange for a service is restricted to State and quasi-State institutions. Childcare or
youth coaching organisations, two of the largest cohorts for which Garda vetting is
required, are not present on the list.
Under the Social Welfare Consolidation Act 2005, any enterprise seeking to request
the card as a form of identification which is not on a list of specified bodies is
committing an offence, with a penalty upon indictment of €13,000 or three years in
prison, or both.
Both An Garda Síochána and the Department of Social Protection were contacted by
the Irish Examiner to ask if they were aware of the apparent legislative breach, and
whether or not Garda vetting forms would be altered. No response had been received
from either party at the time of publication.
“The reassurances given by Government that the uses of the card can be effectively
curtailed are hard to give credence to when it’s blatantly being used as an ID and the
gardaí are not supposed to be able to ask for it,” said Antoin Ó Lachtnain, director
with Digital Rights Ireland.
Last week, mobile phone carrier GoMo pulled the PSC as an identification option on
its website after concerns were raised with the Department of Social Protection.
Mr Ó Lachtnain said he considers the issue of Garda vetting “more egregious” than
that of GoMo as “this is the Garda”.
“GoMo have the excuse of simply not knowing any better, but you would expect An
Garda Síochána to know what the rules are,” he said. “There has to be a strategy for
this kind of thing, with a carefully considered solution, and the PSC is not that
solution.”
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With Fianna Fail in disarray over VoteGate, the Blueshirts and
Varadkar can win the upcoming General Election - if enough of
you keyboard warriors just keep moaning and don't bother voting.
Fine Gael's own loyal support base of around 25% can get them
back into power. All they need is a low turnout on voting day and
Varadkar will be Taoiseach until 2025. Just think of the damage
they can inflict on the people of this country in 5 years, the billions
more that they will waste, the tens of thousands who won't be
housed, the unfortunate sick people who will die because of
Simon Harris. Water charges of course will be introduced straight
away, pensions will be cut and workers will be crucified with huge
Carbon Tax deductions from wages. Our young people will be
sent to fight endless wars on behalf of the EU's PESCO army -
and many will come home in body bags. But some people will be
very happy - Denis O'Brien will get plenty of juicy state contracts,
the Vulture Funds and the bankers will rake in billions and pay
little or no tax. That's Fine Gael's way you see. They are a party of
the rich, for the rich.
So don't vote, stay at home on election day and keep these elite
gangsters happy and wealthy.
The human face of the housing and homelessness
crisis
A homeless person murdered on the streets of Cork, another homeless person dies in Dublin, children
are eating their dinner on pieces of cardboard outside the GPO and kids in their school uniforms queing
up for food with their parents. This is the shocking and human face of the housing and homelessness
crisis, today I called out the government on the fact that they seem to think that this is business as
usual.
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Mortgage Fraud in Ireland by Government FG, FF, LB and Bankers and District
Attorney and judges Stealing Irish Homes that are paid three times over
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The Dáil voting system needs to be reviewed, according to a report into the recent controversy involving Fianna
Fáil TDs Timmy Dooley and Niall Collins, but no sanctions or disciplinary action were recommended.
Jennifer Bray
Updated: Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 12:45
A report which examined the events of last week, when Fianna Fáil TD Niall
Collins voted six times for party colleague Timmy Dooley while he was absent
from the chamber, was published today.
Addressing the Dáil after the report’s publication, Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó
Fearghail said the controversy over voting has “further eroded confidence in
how our national parliament conducts its business”.
The report by Dáil clerk Peter Finnegan has not recommended sanctions
because the committee does not want to prejudice the work of another
committee which is also investigating the matter.
Mr Dooley has denied asking Mr Collins to vote for him when he was absent
from the Dáil chamber saying: “No, I am clear on that fact.”
Mr Dooley told the investigation that he left the Dáil complex instead of
returning to vote in last Thursday’s voting bloc.
What happened
Detailing what happened on the day, the report says: “Deputy Dooley
approached Mr Collins, who was speaking with another colleague at the time.
“He is shown to have a brief conversation with Deputy Collins, which included
Deputy Dooley pointing towards the front row of the seats. Deputy Collins
nods at Deputy Dooley... [who] exits the chamber...
Related
“When asked about the nature of the conversation with Deputy Collins,
Deputy Dooley said that he told Deputy Collins that he needed to speak with
him.”
The report says Mr Dooley told Mr Collins: “I’ll see you at the vote but I have
to make a call.”
“When asked what he meant by pointing at the seats, Deputy Dooley was
indicating to Deputy Collins that he would see him when they were voting.”
Of course, with just three votes in 2019, you would wonder why
he couldn’t have found somebody to push the button for him.
But let’s not be mad at Enda. He’s just another time-server, a lifer,
a bed-blocker in a system where getting a cosy berth in the Dail is
the object of the game and once you are there, you keep the head
down, vote like you’re told and keep claiming the expenses. #FG
He left to manage big hedge funds which is a conflict of interest now you know why all these
vulture funds/capitalist got away and are still getting away with paying f all taxes. Under his
watch they were given the red carpet to buy up thousands and thousands of homes for
pittance and now theres no as they say no homes for the homeless. And why oh why does he
still have a VOTE and a fn WAGE
The report recommends that the Dáil has more powers to sanction TDs who
vote for absent colleagues. It also says voting should not start until all
members are in their seats. Photograph: Gareth Chaney/Collins
Mr Collins told the investigation he was not asked to vote
for Mr Dooley.
“When asked what he believed Deputy Dooley meant by
pointing, he said that he had no idea, that he was looking
at Deputy Dooley’s face and not his hands. He further
states that he did not see Deputy Dooley leave the
chamber.”
Mr Collins said there was “no particular reason” why he
then sat in the wrong seat. He said he “assumed” Mr
Dooley was in the chamber.
Sanctions
The report found the Dáil committee on procedures and
privileges (CPP) needs more powers to sanction politicians
who vote for absent colleagues or colleagues who are away
from their designated seat and should have a role in
considering irregularities during votes.
The report also recommends that voting should not start
until all members are in their seats. If an error comes to
light it must be notified to the Ceann Comhairle.
Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghail told the Dáil that the
report was “factual and evidence-based,” and though it
didn’t make findings, the facts were “stark and
unpalatable”.
He said there would be statements on the issue in the Dáil
later and said it was his “sincere wish that members read
the report before they express their views”.
A separate complaint about the issue has been made to the
Dáil’s internal ethics committee by Fine Gael TD Noel
Rock about Mr Dooley, Mr Collins, Fianna Fáil TD Lisa
Chambers and Fianna Fáil TD Barry Cowen.
This committee is scheduled to meet later today and has
the power to recommend a motion to the Dáil on the
matter. This could result in a potential expulsion of up to
30 days if the TDs are found to have breached ethics laws.
This is the root cause of the housing crisis political corruption
USE THE BALLOT BOX WHEN THE TIME COMES.
apart from FF FG LABOUR and the a certain element of the independens can't be thrusted
Sinn Fein won't have enough to form a government what other party is there to run the
country the way the people want it run.
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recommends-no-sanctions-against-tds-
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Vote Gate scandal has eroded
public confidence in politics, says
Ceann Comhairle
Thursday, October 24, 2019
The speaker of the Dáil, Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl said the
voting scandal of a week ago was a “political failure,” which eroded
public confidence in politics.
“The controversy that has ensued following the voting one week ago
has further eroded public confidence in how our National Parliament
conducts its business.
“Over the coming hours I hope Members of this House will take the opportunity
to read this report. It is factual and evidence-based.
It makes no findings against any individual, but the facts as laid out in
the report are stark and unpalatable.
“On a personal level, I have always believed that when errors are made
in life they should be admitted and learned from, and I would apply this
maxim to what transpired last week.
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scandal-has-eroded-public-confidence-in-politics-says-ceann-
comhairle-
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Y1QiomQXH8YgoGNMncj8RTCb4
Taoiseach won't answer whether he is
one of 13 Ministers availing of second
home tax break
Nov 28, 2012
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"A lot of questions for Irish Water including why Dublin still gets 99% of its water from rivers, with inherent risks
of giardia, cryptosporidium and THMs? Only 1% is from (safer) wells.
But the key question is: why is this organisation not being better scrutinised?"
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Gardaí using PSC for vetting forms despite law
Gardaí using PSC for vetting forms despite law
An Garda Síochána has been including the public services card (PSC) as an identification
option on Garda vetting forms used by businesses across the country, in apparent
violation of social welfare law.
As part of the vetting process, mandated by legislation enacted between 2012 and 2016,
gardaí register affected organisations as requiring successful vetting for staff before they
can commence employment.
Vetting is required for any employees who may be working with either children or
vulnerable adults.
On foot of this, the relevant organisation requires applicants to fill out vetting forms. But
before that can happen the prospective employee is expected to verify their identity to the
satisfaction of the gardaí.
This is carried out via a points system, with 100 points required to reach the relevant
threshold, which in practice requires a form of identification and an acceptable
verification of address. The PSC represents the joint most valuable form of identification
per the live vetting forms, at 80 points, along with a driving licence.
However, the list of specified bodies under legislation which can request a PSC in
exchange for a service is restricted to State and quasi-State institutions. Childcare or
youth coaching organisations, two of the largest cohorts for which Garda vetting is
required, are not present on the list.
Under the Social Welfare Consolidation Act 2005, any enterprise seeking to request the
card as a form of identification which is not on a list of specified bodies is committing an
offence, with a penalty upon indictment of €13,000 or three years in prison, or both.
Both An Garda Síochána and the Department of Social Protection were contacted by the
Irish Examiner to ask if they were aware of the apparent legislative breach, and whether
or not Garda vetting forms would be altered. No response had been received from either
party at the time of publication.
“The reassurances given by Government that the uses of the card can be effectively
curtailed are hard to give credence to when it’s blatantly being used as an ID and the
gardaí are not supposed to be able to ask for it,” said Antoin Ó Lachtnain, director with
Digital Rights Ireland.
Last week, mobile phone carrier GoMo pulled the PSC as an identification option on its
website after concerns were raised with the Department of Social Protection.
Mr Ó Lachtnain said he considers the issue of Garda vetting “more egregious” than that
of GoMo as “this is the Garda”.
“GoMo have the excuse of simply not knowing any better, but you would expect An
Garda Síochána to know what the rules are,” he said. “There has to be a strategy for this
kind of thing, with a carefully considered solution, and the PSC is not that solution.”
Under the Social Welfare Consolidation Act 2005, any enterprise seeking to request the
card as a form of identification which is not on a list of specified bodies is committing an
offence, with a penalty upon indictment of €13,000 or three years in prison, or both.
Both An Garda Síochána and the Department of Social Protection were contacted by the
Irish Examiner to ask if they were aware of the apparent legislative breach, and whether
or not Garda vetting forms would be altered. No response had been received from either
party at the time of publication.
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despite-law-
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There's talk of an early
election but nothing really
ever changes in Irish
politics
"Essentially it’ll just be musical chairs with one of the usual
suspects in the big seat when the jig stops"
BY
Joe O'SheaEditor, Cork Beo
28 OCT 2019
Enda Kenny leaving Government buildings
And doesn’t it say a lot about Irish politics that the ex-Fine
Gael leader can just “leave” office and then spend the next
two years claiming salary and expenses while not -
apparently - doing a hell of a lot for the people of Mayo. Or
anywhere else.
Of course, with just three votes in 2019, you would wonder
why he couldn’t have found somebody to push the button
for him.
But let’s not be mad at Enda. He’s just another time-
server, a lifer, a bed-blocker in a system where getting a
cosy berth in the Dail is the object of the game and once
you are there, you keep the head down, vote like you’re
told and keep claiming the expenses.
Former Taoiseach Enda Kenny
There’s talk of an early election - but will it change anything? Will it feck.
We’ll have a few weeks of Leo and Martin throwing shapes, the Greens will
probably pick up some seats and a couple of new independents will show up.
But essentially it’ll just be musical chairs with one of the usual suspects in the
big seat when the jig stops.
Nothing really changes in Irish politics. Seats are handed down in the family,
the same old faces with the same non-ideas hang around for years. Systemic
problems last for decades. We surely can’t call it a housing or health “crisis” if
it’s been like that forever.
When hard-working people are being denied decent housing for 15 years or
more - when we waste decades and billions failing to sort a half-decent health
system - that’s not a “crisis” - that’s just how it’s supposed to work.
There are very few ideas and even less people capable of coming up with
them. The best of our young people are either too busy scrambling to pay the
bills or building businesses and careers despite rather than because of
anything the Government does for them.
A friend remarked to me how young Enda Kenny looks at 68 years of age and
good luck to him. But you might look that fresh-faced as well if you had a
working week like Enda’s.
Yes, in an interconnected world, when Australia sneezes, we all get the flu. In
2017, when a new strain hit Australia hard, it was one of the worst years on
record for Europe and the US.
So brace yourselves. And the even worse news is that new strains that start
off in Australia have proved to be vaccine resistant.
If you are ever wonder where the mutant virus that will make all those zombie
movies and TV shows a reality will come from - it’ll be some feckin’ koala bear
up a tree in Tumbarumba.
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National Childcare Scheme wasn't set up to provide childcare subsidies. It was set up
because the largest demographic need access to such a scheme and therefore would
add significantly to the MyGovID scam.
That's because the Permanent Unaccountable Unelected Civil Service run the country.
The politicians are just the front face that changes...
The National Childcare Scheme wasn't set up to provide childcare subsidies. It was set
up because the largest demographic need access to such a scheme and therefore would
add significantly to the MyGovID scam...
Look between the lines folks... They already have all the people on welfare signed up.
Now it's the parents of children..
Who will be next? Local Property Tax payers? Income Tax filing? They intend on getting
everyone at some stage...
The Public Services Card is only the token key. The MyGovID is the REAL threat...
They were told they cannot use the PSC for anything other than welfare but no such limitation was
put on MyGovID...
Sure look what experience would Murphy or Harris have even in life . They are so young but they do
think they know it all . At least Leo is a medical Dr . So he has some life experiences . Suppose we
could go on about a lot more of out TDs Councilors , Senitors , ,MEP s. The don't like to listen to
people who may have experience in say for example caring or working Heath Services, Bullying is
another . They never wanted to listen to that wonderful mam Mr MC Cabe.
carefully rewritten 1937 constitution facilitates all the unaccountability. Change that or live with
deja Vu for another 100 years.
It said it provided police with information about the person and company that
leased the trailer, as well as offering to make tracking data available.
China has called for joint efforts to counter human smuggling, while vigils
have been held in London and Belfast to pay tribute to the victims.
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20725007
They the media are all saying he's Irish! when in fact he's British!!!
Just to destroy British propaganda with one picture. This is loyalist scumbag
Maurice Mo Robinson, who was the willing driver murdering the people he
was highly paid for to smuggle into Britain. Robinson is a well-known loyalist
with dealing towards the DUP/UDA. Yet, the British media with its usual
racism towards Ireland claim he's Irish! On his Facebook, Mo proudly tells his
'followers' he is proud to be British! Don't allow the British media to get away
with their usual bullshit propaganda. Shamefully, the pro-Unionist Free state
media have gone along with their British masters.
22/10/2019
A decision to post a congratulatory message regarding the success of the Public Services
Card’s online form at a national awards ceremony was met with some scepticism from
officials inside the Department of Social Protection.
The PSC’s online variant, MyGovID, was recently one of two winners among Social
Protection projects at the Irish eGovernment Awards presented by Social Protection
Minister Regina Doherty.
On foot of that result, secretary general for Social Protection John McKeon requested that
attention be drawn to the achievement on both his Department’s website and that of
MyWelfare.ie, the website dedicated to accessing welfare services using MyGovID
I’m not sure how this could be put on MyWelfare or the relevance there,” one official
commented on the request, in messages seen by the Irish Examiner.
"Folks, did anyone know these awards were even on this week?” asked another.
"This looks OK imo (in my opinion), but as to relevance, I can’t see how it fits,” said a
third.
“Publish today unpublish tomorrow?” he added.
“Don’t disagree but we will need to get something up if SG requested,” said the second.
Both notices are still live on their respective websites.
The eGovernment awards were held just under a month after the Data Protection
Commissioner had delivered a report to Social Protection ruling that the PSC is illegal
when used for services other than welfare. It said the Department must delete 3.2 million
historical records it maintains on cardholders.
The report into the PSC was eventually published six days after the awards had taken
place. Ms Doherty has vowed to challenge the DPC’s rulings in the courts.
The eGovernment awards are a privately-sponsored event, self-described as “Ireland’s
most sought-after accolade in eGovernment”. A ticket to the event in September cost
€262 per person.
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psc-at-national-awards-met-with-scepticism-from-officials-959007.html
10/10/2019
TDs and senators had to refund almost €10,000 in expenses this year after an audit found
they could not provide supporting evidence to justify claiming such allowances.
Two Fine Gael TDs – Alan Farrell and Maria Bailey – and Fine Gael senator, Michelle
Mulherin accounted for the bulk of the ineligible claims.
The annual audit of the Public Representation Allowance paid to members of the Houses
of the Oireachtas in 2017 found almost a quarter of those selected for scrutiny were not
able to validate the total amount of expenses they had claimed.
The independent audit by consultants, Mazars, found six out of 22 TDs and senators had
made ineligible claims worth €9,650 out of a total of €71,622 paid out to them under the
PRA.
All six politicians subsequently reimbursed the amount of ineligible expenses to the
Oireachtas.
The politicians and amount of invalid expenses were TDs Alan Farrell (FG) - €4,214.79;
Maria Bailey (FG) - €1,977.11 and senators Michelle Mulherin (FG) - €2,006.73; Lynn
Ruane (Ind) - €978.81; Colette Kelleher (Ind) - €245.85 and Jerry Buttimer (FG) -
€227.16.
The findings were disputed by both Ms Mulherin and Mr Buttimer who both claimed the
issue arose over advertisements which contained information on their clinics.
Ms Mulherin said she believed the auditors had “erred in law” by relying on PRA
guidelines rather than actual regulations which established the legal basis for the
allowance and she had received the opinion of senior counsel that supported her position.
The former TD said she had made a formal complaint to the Ceann Comhairle about the
need to correct the guidelines.
Mr Buttimer said his issue related to vouched advertisements that were deemed to be
partly inadmissible as they included his clinic times.
Ms Kelleher acknowledged she had made two small errors in filing her expenses claim.
The audit observed that the ineligible expenses claimed represented 2.6% of the total
value of the PRA paid out to the 22 audited politicians during 2017 – a figure worth just
over €372,000.
It showed €3,754 was disallowed because the expenses
claimed did not relate to the relevant period, while almost
€3,680 was disallowed due to a lack of supporting
documentation.
Another €2,217 was deemed ineligible because the related
claims did not fall within an allowable expense category.
The audit said the other 16 members were able to show
receipts and supporting documentation to validate amounts
paid to them during the period under audit.
They were TDs: Finian McGrath (Ind), Clare Daly (I4C), Noel
Rock (FG), Niall Collins (FF), Kate O’Collins (FG), Danny
Healy-Rae (Ind), Seán Fleming (FF), Simon Coveney (FG),
Martin Ferris (SF), Martin Kenny (SF), Michael Moynihan (FF),
Michael Lowry (Ind), Tom Neville (FG) and Michael Collins
(Ind) as well as senators Rónan Mullen (Ind) and Catherine
Ardagh (FF).
At least 10% of members of the Houses of the Oireachtas,
which consist of 158 TDs and 60 senators, are chosen on a
random basis each year for audit.
It examines payments of the PRA for specified office and
communications expenses including rent, stationery, cleaning
and IT costs.
All parliamentarians who receive vouched amounts are
required to hold their own receipts and supporting documents
for inspection for a period of five years.
TDs are entitled to a vouched maximum allowance of €20,350 per annum, while the PRA
for ministers or ministers of states is €16,000 and €12,225 for senators.
Politicians who spend less than the allowance must return any unspent monies.
A total of 47 members repaid €156,531 voluntarily last year, while 11 opted to waive
some or all of their allowance.
The Houses of the Oireachtas said it would apply administrative amendments to the audit
process recommended by Mazars “as soon as possible.”
For example, they noted that several politicians were claiming for stamps and envelopes
even though they are provided for free by the Oireachtas.
The three Fine Gael members with the highest level of ineligible expenses claims have all
been involved in other political controversies in recent years.
Ms Bailey, a TD for Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown was removed as chair of the Oireachtas
Committee on Housing in July as a result of her controversial personal injuries claim after
falling from a swing in a Dublin hotel.
Mr Farrell, a Dublin Fingal TD, was criticised for making a €15,000 claim for whiplash
for neck and shoulder pains he claimed he suffered for up to 18 months following what a
judge said were “minor injuries” sustained in a collision with a van.
During court proceedings last year in which he was awarded €2,500 in damages, the court
was shown photos of Mr Farrell at the top of a ladder with an election poster four months
after the accident.
Ms Mulherin, a former TD for Mayo, paid €3,295 to the Oireachtas in 2015 after it
emerged she had made a large number of calls to Kenya from her Dáil office.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/tds-and-senators-refund-almost-10k-in-
expenses-following-audit-956330.html
Justice Minister admits voting for colleague in Dáil;
Chambers apologises for 'genuine error'
21/10/2019
The Justice Minister has admitted that he has voted for a colleague in the Dáil chamber
on a couple of occasions.
Charlie Flanagan says that members sometimes vote for a deputy who is in the chamber
but not yet in their seat with moments to go before a vote closes.
Minister Charlie Flanagan says there are circumstances where colleagues vote for one
another but that this is different to the Timmy Dooley controversy.
"Somebody might be racing down the stairs with three seconds to go and they might say
'press my button, here I am' or whatever and I may have done it from time to time," said
Minister Flanagan.
Two separate investigations are underway after it emerged Fianna Fáil's Niall Collins
voted six times for his party colleague Timmy Dooley when he was not in the chamber.
The party's Brexit spokesperson Lisa Chambers has also admitted voting "in error" on
behalf of the deputy leader Dara Calleary last week.
Speaking to RTÉ Radio One, Ms Chambers added: “When I voted in the very first vote, I
honest to God believed I was in my seat and pressing my voting button.
“When I looked up at the main screen, where you can see the seats highlighted for voting,
I realised my seat wasn’t highlighted and that’s when I realised I was in the wrong seat
and probably less than 10 seconds later I hopped in to my own seat.
“It’s my mistake and I hold my hands up to it, I should have told the teller there was an
error recorded in the seat beside me, I didn’t do that.
“Dara missed a few votes, I only voted in the very first one and then I went back to my
seat. There are absolutely no benefits or no good reason why I would have voted for
anybody else, it didn’t make any difference to the vote.
“I still should have corrected the error.
“I hope people will take it as a genuine, honest mistake. Others have done the same, my
mistake was not telling the teller and correcting the record.
“It didn’t make a difference to the vote.
Ms Chambers also apologised after telling RTÉ's This Week
programme that she had never voted for a colleague saying
that she had understood the question to mean had she
intentionally voted for someone else.
Responding to the revelation by Ms Chambers, Deputy
Calleary said: "I did not, and would not, ask any other deputy
to vote for me in the Dáil."
In a statement yesterday, Mr Calleary added that Ms
Chambers had not corrected the record on the day of the vote
and said that Ms Chambers had "contacted the Ceann
Comhairle this evening to advise him of this".
Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland, Mr Calleary said that the
integrity of the voting system in the Oireachtas and the Dáil is
"hugely important".
He stated that he will support whatever decision the Ceann
Comhairle chooses to take after a report is completed and an
investigation by the Dáil Committee on Procedure and
Privileges has been completed.
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They the media are all saying he's Irish! when in fact he's British!!!
Just to destroy British propaganda with one picture. This is loyalist scumbag Maurice Mo
Robinson, who was the willing driver murdering the people he was highly paid for to
smuggle into Britain. Robinson is a well-known loyalist with dealing towards the
DUP/UDA. Yet, the British media with its usual racism towards Ireland claim he's Irish!
On his Facebook, Mo proudly tells his 'followers' he is proud to be British! Don't allow the
British media to get away with their usual bullshit propaganda. Shamefully, the pro-
Unionist Free state media have gone along with their British masters.
Think he's upset about the 39 innocent deaths or the fact his racist bigoted friends have been
found out
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I was born and raised in Ireland, (Dublin mainly) all over in the care system..
I left at 16 and had to fend for myself since.
My trouble started when my I ran from an abusive relationship with my children and I
moved out into a property that the banks were looking to take back... these landlords will
take money up until the last second if they can and I needed a place to go with the kids,
so I took it. £500 a month into his hand on the side... I couldn’t even claim from the
address..
I had all kinds of court officials come to the house and I was literally up at night with worry
so a friend asked if I would be interested in renting a house and I jumped at the chance, I
was there a month and they asked for it back and gave me a week... so I had to move
into a friends house with 4 kids. Again I was homeless... all my belongings left here there
and everywhere.. my friends were good but with a family of their own and me with my
kids it was a disaster and they asked us to leave... I went to the council begging for help
and I was told they would help me but I would need to get someone to take the kids as
they had no services available to the children... I couldn’t believe it so I went to the
papers and they did a story but said I wasn’t homeless as I had a mattress on a friends
floor.. and said they never denied me help.. but they did!! I went into the social welfare
offices and begged them to help and the woman said have u no family, I said no not here
but I have brothers who moved to England... and she told me to take my kids and get the
boat to England cause nobody would help me in Ireland that the place has gone to shit...
a woman in the social welfare said that to my face!! So that night I packed my kids and a
suitcase up and I got the boat...
here we are all these years later and myself and my children have a wonderful home and
they are happily settled grounded children thank god. I miss home so much, I miss
everyone, I miss everything I know but I wouldn’t ever go back home, I can’t, since I’ve
left things have became just appalling, the homeless situation isn’t just a situation
anymore it’s a major crisis OUR COUNTRY IS IN CRISIS and god knows if I was able to
be there I’d march those streets with you all.
For those who bring all the foreigners into it, I’m a foreigner in England, but they have
helped me and my children more than my own government... should I leave here and go
home to sleep on the streets with my kids?? Should I give up my home and hand it to an
English family who were born and raised here? Are their children more entitled to a warm
home? A roof over their heads? Hot food in their belly? Just because they are English?
Be careful about what you say because their are irish In many different countries who are
being helped because their own government would see them die on the streets before
helping them up...
everyone needs to stop bickering among themselves and get angry at the people who
are to blame...
The government!
March March March, stand up, stand together and fight for our country back!! Fight for
the Irish who can’t come home!! Fight so that our children may go home one day!! FIGHT
for IRELAND
It is a discraseful thing that you were told to leave your home country because our government
wouldn't help with the basic need of a person. Shelter.. Bless those in England that helped you. But it
not home... What is wrong with our country is greed. Those going into office only go in because of the
money... Let them live and walk in the shoes of those people. Mother's and fathers and others for 1
month. Try and get help live the life of our homeless people ... They won't.. Money means more to
them . I am ashamed of our government...
Fine Gael a second thought to know that their actions will lead to thousands of tragic
deaths. Really disgusting. This post shows the hollow callous nature of these right wing
politicians. They have no empathy for people suffering.
But even reading his assertion that the difference in bus journeys is due to the bus driver
is stupid. It wouldn’t occur to this half wit that time of day or day of the week might have
more to do with it. Again just like Fine Gael climate policy the blame must be with the
individual and not the chaotic system causing traffic congestion or climate change.
Blame the workers for the conditions, blame the homeless for not having houses, blame the
sick for taking up hospital beds. It's the Fine Gael way.
Blue shirt pricks
So are the blueshirts paying the services of unscrupulous human traffickers to illegally cross the
borders of another jurisdiction?
That is the prime cause of the migrant deaths in the Mediterranean.
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar’s flights on the Learjet alone produced over six
times more carbon than a person’s average yearly emissions from
travel, food production, home heating, electricity use, and other
activities.
The Taoiseach, Tánaiste, and ministers used the Learjet and Casa 37
times up to the end of September, clocking up more than 150 hours on
the private jets. This does not include any commercial flights taken by
the Government, including their annual tour across the world for St
Patrick’s day.
Nor does it include the flights of the Taoiseach, Tánaiste, and five other
ministers, along with their teams, who all travelled to the UN in New
York last month as the Government jet cannot do transatlantic
distances.
The two government jets produced 284.25 tonnes of carbon flying
ministers to destinations including Brussels, Madrid, Paris, Helsinki, and
Zurich.
This is significantly more than countries like Sweden which emits 5.5
tonnes per capita.
“For example on one of those flights there are six people, that’s one
tonne per person return. If they were to fly an Aer Lingus flight you are
looking at 180kg per person so it’s five times more carbon intensive to
use Learjet than it is to fly commercial.”
Green Party leader Eamon Ryan said many private jet trips could be
avoided with a proper conference call system to allow ministers and
senior civil servants speak with their counterparts.
While the Taoiseach and Tánaiste are the most regular users of the
Government jet, ministers including Paschal Donohoe and Simon Harris,
as well as junior ministers Helen McEntee and Paul Kehoe, have also
flown on it this year with anything between two and seven others on
board.
Ireland is now one of only four countries who completely exempts aviation from
taxation and that’s due to a decision that the Taoiseach made when he was
transport minister.
Mr Murphy called on the Government to follow other countries in
addressing the environmental impact of aviation.
“What other European governments are doing is they are moving ahead
with their own policies to address aviation emissions. Some European
governments are introducing ticket taxes — the Dutch, the Swedish, the
Norwegian.
“At the same time other governments are looking at taxing kerosene.
“When you fill up your car with petrol, on average across Europe you
pay 50c per litre [in tax]; when Ryanair fills up its Boeing aircraft at
Dublin Airport it pays zero kerosene tax, which is a big fossil-fuel
subsidy which drives emissions growth,” said Mr Murphy.
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This seems to be what our country has come to. It's a level of
homelessness that I never thought we would see here. It's a type
of displacement that I associated years ago after the war in
Kosovo, and in so many other places far away from Ireland in
which shocking violence took place.
This is also a form of abuse and violence, here in Ireland; a form
of domestic displacement that we were told would be eradicated
here in Ireland years ago. Instead it gets worse and worse, and
more inhumanely horrible to watch, and even more so to
experience personally.
Children who are eating food off a piece of takeaway cardboard
that protects the fast food from the filthy pavements of our
streets; young children no older than babies who are in grave
danger for every reason you can imagine.
Yes of course, there are those homeless persons who can't settle
into sheltered accomodation. I know that. Mental health and
substance abuse is a huge issue for many homeless individuals.
But it's tiring to hear so many elected representatives latch onto
the old clichés of how addiction and mental issues make
homeless people remain in the abyss of their own ill-doing, but
that suits many of the better-heeled politicians who aren't that
really interested. Their excuses and lack of action is disgusting.
You've lost touch with the grass roots, and that's where these
photos here take each of us to.
It's mostly left to independent councillors and the handful of
elected members - but most of all those amazing relentless
unnamed volunteers - to try to figure out how to do the work that
the government can't be bothered doing; such as reaching out to
Sam, who is only 5, and offering him a better, safer life and future;
and to the family in this other photo here.
I believe both of these Dublin-based photos are genuine. I wish
they were scams. I wish they were false. But sadly they are not.
These are real people, suffering in a way that many people will
condemn, but only a tiny percentage of those who condemn
actually care enough to do anything about.
The recession is long past. (Like tropical seasonal hurricanes,
there will be another recession due at some point in the not-too-
distant future. Economists reckon they have a ten-year turnabout.
If that's the case, then we can expect the next one in seven years,
give or take a couple.)
But for these individuals, in these photos here, whether or not
they live in temporary hotel/hostel accomodation, their inhumane
recession never ends. It usually results in some form of personal
tragedy eventually that we rarely hear about.
And if that is what many of our politicians are happy to ignore
while still making empty promises year after year to eradicate
homelessness and this type of third world injustice "for good",
then there are no words.
And meanwhile the priceless value of the precious life of a small
irreplaceable child will always be as cheap as a politician's
promise
he biggest scandal is that there are hundreds of boarded up homes all over Dublin. If
someone could organise to have them all opened up and occupied even illegally all on the
same day at the same time could you imagine how difficult it would be for the authorities to
deal with it. There is such a thing as squatters rights.
non Irish the Irish also doing it getting council house and they have residence elsewhere.
Corruprion at council level is as bad as elsewhere.
Everyone should be on the streets of Dublin shouting for the government to step down if they
can't look after the people of Ireland. We are forgetting about the kids and our own people
who deserve to be in a home not sitting on the streets eating one hot meal a day. If this was
any other country the people would stand up and fight for the rights of the people.
We're gonna be the first African family to win the show!"
Meet The Mandiangus from Tallaght in Dublin!
#IrelandsFittestFamily returns Sunday 6.30pm
poster boy for the new law hate speech he thinks he is a great ambassador for
Ireland this is what you call racist and he wants our freedom of speech taking from
us time for the Irish to stand up and be counted or there be no more Ireland or Irish
he wants to take that away from us and he is still proud of his African flag while he wants
to diminished ours
it’s getting worst it’s forgeiners that are lying in Henry st at night homeless if they have no
were to live they should be sent home same with the soup tables nothing but forgeiners at
them
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Sick to the back teeth of these extreme right wing bigot's.
Solidarity to Martin Kenny and his family.
Sinn Féin Leader Mary Lou McDonald TD has condemned an apparent arson attack at
the home of the party’s Justice Spokesperson and Sligo/Leitrim TD Martin Kenny.
Deputy Kenny’s car was burned out at his home in Aughavas, near Ballinamore in Co.
Leitrim in the early hours of the morning.
“Martin Kenny TD’s car was set alight and burned at his home in Aughavas at
approximately 2.30am this morning in what appears to have been a very deliberate and
targeted attack.
“I want to extend my solidarity and that of Sinn Féin to Martin Kenny and his family after
what was a very frightening experience. Thankfully no member of the Kenny family was
injured but it could easily have been different.
“An attack on the home or property of an elected public representative is a deeply serious
and sinister development. It represents an attack on the democratic system itself.
“This despicable act is a reflection on nobody but the criminal thugs who perpetrated it
and I know it will be rightly condemned by the people of Aughavas, Ballinamore and Co.
Leitrim.
“An Garda Síochána are investigating this very serious incident and I know that they will
do all in their power to bring those responsible to justice.”
ENDS
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From Brexit to
Irish
reunification?
The choice to effect unity or continue partition is one for the people of the island
of Ireland alone.
Should Brexit occur, there will exist a body of EU citizens outside the territory of
the Member States who will have been removed from the EU despite their
expressed wish to remain, deprived of many of the tangible benefits of
membership. In our view, the recognition of their right to re-join the Union,
through Irish reunification, should be at the forefront of the EU's approach.
This would be consistent with international law and with the EU's own
comparative experience and practice.
Vital preparatory work is required and the EU should make a start in expectation
of unity referendums.
The practical consequences will depend on the precise nature of the future
relationship with the UK, but there are matters that can be anticipated and must
be dealt with in advance.
The impact on Ireland of the current economic and monetary union rules in the
event of reunification and what derogations or transitional measures would be
necessary should also be on the agenda alongside what amendments to EU and
Irish law are required to safeguard, for example, the position of British citizens
resident on the island of Ireland.
Clauses relating to human rights are, for example, also present in the EU's recent
free trade and accession agreements.
EU assistance
As indicated, the EU must, for example, consider the implications of the equality
of citizenship and parity of esteem provisions of the agreement and, along with
the Irish government, determine what further guarantees should be provided.
The north of Ireland has a way to return to the EU that is central to the
constitutional compromise at the heart of the Good Friday Agreement.
The EU must now play its part in providing clarity and certainty to the people of
Ireland as they face into referendums that will determine their constitutional
future.
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pinion/146197
Anderson to launch Irish
unity report in Brussels
9 October, 2019 - by Martina Anderson MEP
Sinn Féin MEP Martina Anderson will launch an independent legal report on Irish
reunification in the European Parliament in Brussels this evening.
Speaking ahead of the launch of ‘The EU and Irish Unity: Planning and Preparing for
Constitutional Change in Ireland,’ Martina Anderson said:
“This report, commissioned by GUE/NGL and authored by human rights law professor
Colin Harvey and barrister Marc Bassett, sets out the pathway to Irish unity contained in
the Good Friday Agreement and what the EU can do to support and secure it.
“I will be joined in Brussels for the launch by Sinn Féin Leas Uachtarán Michelle O’Neill
and the Sinn Féin MP team, as well as representatives of sectors who will be impacted
by the disastrous Tory Brexit.
“The debate on Irish unity has already begun across Ireland and this report is a timely
and informative contribution to that debate, examining all aspects of Irish unity and the
role of the EU.
“In their report, human rights professor Colin Harvey and barrister Marc Bassett clearly
state there is no legal or constitutional barrier to the EU actively promoting Irish unity.
“It also sets out five steps the EU and Irish government can take to advance the debate
on unity and, ultimately, creating a new Ireland within the EU.”
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Review of banks’ role in crisis
The Corrupt Government And
bankers role in the Irish Bailout
crisis have never been honest
With the Irish People of Ireland
Tuesday, October 29, 2019
Brian Hayes , October 24) has morphed into an apologist for the banks
and bankers. He paints a picture of them as benign bystanders in the
chaos following the financial crash of 2008.
As a result, Ireland was long known as the ‘wild west’ of the financial
world and that reputational damage continues to this day.
If Mr Hayes cares to check the records, he will find that prior to the
crash, mortgage-holders had largely an unblemished record in meeting
commitments.
Mr Hayes knows the regulatory regime has been forced on the banks
(regrettably, after the event) because of their negligence, dishonesty,
and abuse of customers.
These had included a cut of 10 basis points to the deposit rate, from
minus-0.4% to minus-0.5% and indications it would restart its
quantitative easing (QE) asset purchase programme next month at a
relatively modest pace of €20bn per month. It also announced more
favourable terms for its latest liquidity programme.
However, the minutes from the September meeting showed that the
council was divided over the easing package, with a few making it clear
they believed the policy loosening went too far, especially in relation to
restarting QE.
Nonetheless, last week’s meeting showed that the ECB retains a bias to
ease policy further if required.
It said that official rates will remain at their present or lower levels
until inflation “robustly” converges with its 2% target. The ECB also
continued to emphasise that its QE purchases would run for as long as
necessary and only end shortly before it starts to raise rates.
Recent data on the eurozone economy have been quite weak and
inflation continues to fall, with the annual harmonised inflation rate
dropping to 0.8% in September, well below the ECB’s 2% target.
This is in line with the trend in other markets, such as the UK and US,
which have also seen some rowing back on rate cut bets. This may
reflect some abatement of risks to growth as a result of the progress
made in US-China trade talks and on Brexit.
Meanwhile, the market does not see ECB rates starting to rise until
mid-2022 and then only very slowly. Futures contracts show three-
month money market rates remaining negative until 2025.
This will be one of Mr Draghi’s main legacies as head of the ECB: A
prolonged period of negative interest rates and extensive QE.
This is a global phenomenon but no central bank has done more than
the ECB in terms of keeping monetary conditions extremely loose.
Let’s hope, for the sake of Mr Draghi’s reputation, that it does not all
end in tears.
A technical glitch at the bank means means cash has not been credited
to some customer accounts.
The bank said it is working to fix the problem and asks people to get in
contact if they have trouble accessing their funds.
Ulster Bank has said it is having problems processing payments for
some customers.
In a series of tweets, the bank said there are delays applying credits to
some accounts.
Ulster Bank has not confirmed the extent of the problem or when it
might be fixed.
In a statement, the bank says no customer will be left out of pocket and
emergency cash is available.
Darragh Cassidy from Bonkers.ie has some advice for customers who
are affected by the issue.
Mr Cassidy said: "The only thing that you can do if you are looking for
funds is to go into the branch and ask if they would be able to give you
some cash.
"They should, by looking at the system, know whether or not a payment is due to
come in and they should know by your transaction history whether today was
the day that a social welfare payment or a wage credit is due to come through."
Barclays has posted higher profits in the third quarter despite taking a
£1.4 billion hit for payment protection insurance (PPI) claims.
The bank increased adjusted pre-tax profit by 16% to £1.8 billion for
the thre However, once litigation and conduct costs are also included in
the figure, the pre-tax profit for the period is £246 million, down from
£1.46 billion in the same period last year.
Nonetheless, Barclays performed ahead of analysts’ forecasts despite
being dented by the provision for mis-selling PPI on loans and credit
cards.
months to September.
Pre-tax profit from the investment arm jumped by 67% to £886 million
for the period, as income in the division also rose by 17% to £2.6
billion.
Group chief executive Jes Staley said: “These represent another set of
consistent and resilient results, and they show the benefits of our
diversified model – one which allows us to weather today’s macro
headwinds, and grow our businesses and profitability over time.
The Fascist government system is performing at optimum level. Their plans are working
perfectly!
Sitting in cafe Nero on Grafton St and a big Garda van pulls in and makes a huge scene of 2 homeless
guys asleep, The male Garda was very aggressive pulling at 1 of them to wake him up.. The Irish
Guards are an absolute joke !! This country needs to make big changes ...
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It wouldn't be homeless you no if the council stop evicting people just because they can't
keep up there rent payment and it's onley because the government can't help them out
with supplementary payment just to get them back on track with their rents payment sad.
BUT when the banks got in trouble with there payment the government was able to give
them all the money they needed to be able to pay of all there debts and had no problem
in saying that it's the right thing to dou because it was all there money that they had
infested that went messing and the land Lord's now get more money form the hap sceam
then what it whoud cost for the government to help the suffering people who had to leave
there home's because they weren't in the banking besiness i whoud like to no who are
the land Lord's that are getting all the hap money really are whoudent it be that mabey
some of them could be politions or council members or not just a tough. Wonder if the
Irish people will ever no just haft to wate and see.
People always say to us all as soup runs , omg your amazing !
Your so good for what you do ! And we always say no we are not ,
we are just concerned citizens , and we love our city and country,
we just could not cope with how it was starting to crumble before
our eyes . We had to make a stand and that is what we all need to
do as Humans!! Citizens who just want a better Ireland for all !
We as Citizens played our part , we bailed out the banks , went
broke !! And crawled our way back to the be the 5th economically
rich country in europe !!! And How were we repayed ??
Cuts everywhere! Rent hikes no one can keep up with !! A halt on
public or social homes being built !! A homeless Crisis that will go
down as one of the worst in History ! Public land being sold to
private developers!! Evictions are rife !! Have we gone back in
time!!! A generation of hidden homeless (I myself am 1 ) students
using soup runs because their rents are so high , kids and families
queuing for food on the side of the street !! Landlords ripping
everyone off !! We are socially so poor!!
A cervical check scandel that have killed our women and still no
one is held accountable !! Our grandparents, children , family and
friends lying on trolleys for days !!!
An education system where kids with learning difficulties cannot
access a right to education !!!
Our country is going backwards for its Citizens and forward for
the elite !! If we don't rise up and fight back , I'm genuinely so
scared for all of our futures !!
Because that's all it takes , a few concerned citizens to change
things , we deserve it !! We have suffered for long enough !!
Stand up and let's all fight back for a better Ireland for everyone
We need this for all of us
Most of us run from the car to house, imagine having no where to run from the cold , imagine all you have is a
sleeping bags if your one if the lucky ones !! When did we become so ok with 200 people sleeping in doorways
right across this city !!
Please think of our humans with no homes this winter, we need all the socks , gloves , underwear, hats, scarfs, and
warm clothes and footwear, if you can help please get in touch
Thanks to everyone who helps us help others on a weekly basis
Glenda and Padraig and marks and Spencer for the fab cakes and fruit
@Difontaines on parliament street for the amazing pizza, Julie has supported us from day one , you can buy a slice
of Pizza in this fine establishment and payit forward so we receive amazing wagon wheel pizzas
Jackie and her hubby Peter and all their friends and family in ballybough
Ashley , Ciaran , Sharon and orla for the fab food , drinks , toiletries,.and supplies
Sally for all the meats spuds and veg. Sinead for the bread, food and clothes. School kids in ballyroan for
Halloween cakes
Agnus for her famous Sheppards pie
Me Da for his stew
Rachel and Graham the pasta and curry
Ruth and delphine for driving up from rosscommon with an array of fab holloween cakes and pasta and loads of
treat bags
Gillian for her trays and trays of sandwitches and treats for the kids
Clare and Sophia for the fab cakes and hot Sunday dinners
Vinny and his wife for the amazing chicken curry they dropped up from the country
The couple who dropped in the individual chicken curries
Marjorie and her hubby for the socks and help in hanging them out
Josephine for dropping In loads
Niamh and her sister for the amazing Mexican 3 milk cake
Carmel for your help and donations
Jenny for her van load of clothes
Cora for the fab food
Mary for your donations
The girls Glenda, Michelle all the way from Longford with loads of socks and Tara for coming in and being a
great help
Jordon for all your help
Nora and Sean for all your brought in
My amazing team, no matter the weather we are out there doing the job our leaders should be providing !! Thank
you all for always being there and being the kind , caring individuals you are
Ashley, Nora , Sean , John, Lawrence, David, Carolyn , Clare, Sophia , Brian , Agnus, Noleen, Noel ,
We need better services and supports!! We need more homes built !! We need people off OUR STREETS ! it's
2019 !!! We need your feet on Your streets December 5th to march for the homeless and demand more houses be
built!!
We all deserve a home , if it's social housing , actual affordable housing we can all afford !! Or just rents being
reduced so we can afford them !! Please come out and support us and the homeless humans of Ireland!!
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As a result, Ireland was long known as the ‘wild west’ of the financial
world and that reputational damage continues to this day.
If Mr Hayes cares to check the records, he will find that prior to the
crash, mortgage-holders had largely an unblemished record in meeting
commitments.
Mr Hayes knows the regulatory regime has been forced on the banks
(regrettably, after the event) because of their negligence, dishonesty,
and abuse of customers.
These had included a cut of 10 basis points to the deposit rate, from
minus-0.4% to minus-0.5% and indications it would restart its
quantitative easing (QE) asset purchase programme next month at a
relatively modest pace of €20bn per month. It also announced more
favourable terms for its latest liquidity programme.
However, the minutes from the September meeting showed that the
council was divided over the easing package, with a few making it clear
they believed the policy loosening went too far, especially in relation to
restarting QE.
Nonetheless, last week’s meeting showed that the ECB retains a bias to
ease policy further if required.
It said that official rates will remain at their present or lower levels
until inflation “robustly” converges with its 2% target. The ECB also
continued to emphasise that its QE purchases would run for as long as
necessary and only end shortly before it starts to raise rates.
Recent data on the eurozone economy have been quite weak and
inflation continues to fall, with the annual harmonised inflation rate
dropping to 0.8% in September, well below the ECB’s 2% target.
This is in line with the trend in other markets, such as the UK and US,
which have also seen some rowing back on rate cut bets. This may
reflect some abatement of risks to growth as a result of the progress
made in US-China trade talks and on Brexit.
Meanwhile, the market does not see ECB rates starting to rise until
mid-2022 and then only very slowly. Futures contracts show three-
month money market rates remaining negative until 2025.
This is a global phenomenon but no central bank has done more than
the ECB in terms of keeping monetary conditions extremely loose.
Let’s hope, for the sake of Mr Draghi’s reputation, that it does not all
end in tears.
A technical glitch at the bank means means cash has not been credited
to some customer accounts.
The bank said it is working to fix the problem and asks people to get in
contact if they have trouble accessing their funds.
In a series of tweets, the bank said there are delays applying credits to
some accounts.
Ulster Bank has not confirmed the extent of the problem or when it
might be fixed.
In a statement, the bank says no customer will be left out of pocket and
emergency cash is available.
Darragh Cassidy from Bonkers.ie has some advice for customers who
are affected by the issue.
Mr Cassidy said: "The only thing that you can do if you are looking for
funds is to go into the branch and ask if they would be able to give you
some cash.
"They should, by looking at the system, know whether or not a payment is due to
come in and they should know by your transaction history whether today was
the day that a social welfare payment or a wage credit is due to come through."
Barclays has posted higher profits in the third quarter despite taking a
£1.4 billion hit for payment protection insurance (PPI) claims.
The bank increased adjusted pre-tax profit by 16% to £1.8 billion for
the thre However, once litigation and conduct costs are also included in
the figure, the pre-tax profit for the period is £246 million, down from
£1.46 billion in the same period last year.
months to September.
In recent months, Barclays has faced pressure from activist investor
Edward Bramson to scale back its investment banking operations amid
testing trading conditions.
Pre-tax profit from the investment arm jumped by 67% to £886 million
for the period, as income in the division also rose by 17% to £2.6
billion.
Group chief executive Jes Staley said: “These represent another set of
consistent and resilient results, and they show the benefits of our
diversified model – one which allows us to weather today’s macro
headwinds, and grow our businesses and profitability over time.
The Fascist government system is performing at optimum level. Their plans are working
perfectly!
Sitting in cafe Nero on Grafton St and a big Garda van pulls in and makes a huge scene of 2 homeless
guys asleep, The male Garda was very aggressive pulling at 1 of them to wake him up.. The Irish
Guards are an absolute joke !! This country needs to make big changes ...
https://www.facebook.com/megan.gormally.39/videos/93775364
3275777/UzpfSTEwMDAwOTA0OTI1NzA4MDoyMzIyNTg3NTYxM
zg2MTk2/
It wouldn't be homeless you no if the council stop evicting people just because they can't
keep up there rent payment and it's onley because the government can't help them out
with supplementary payment just to get them back on track with their rents payment sad.
BUT when the banks got in trouble with there payment the government was able to give
them all the money they needed to be able to pay of all there debts and had no problem
in saying that it's the right thing to dou because it was all there money that they had
infested that went messing and the land Lord's now get more money form the hap sceam
then what it whoud cost for the government to help the suffering people who had to leave
there home's because they weren't in the banking besiness i whoud like to no who are
the land Lord's that are getting all the hap money really are whoudent it be that mabey
some of them could be politions or council members or not just a tough. Wonder if the
Irish people will ever no just haft to wate and see.
People always say to us all as soup runs , omg your amazing !
Your so good for what you do ! And we always say no we are not ,
we are just concerned citizens , and we love our city and country,
we just could not cope with how it was starting to crumble before
our eyes . We had to make a stand and that is what we all need to
do as Humans!! Citizens who just want a better Ireland for all !
We as Citizens played our part , we bailed out the banks , went
broke !! And crawled our way back to the be the 5th economically
rich country in europe !!! And How were we repayed ??
Cuts everywhere! Rent hikes no one can keep up with !! A halt on
public or social homes being built !! A homeless Crisis that will go
down as one of the worst in History ! Public land being sold to
private developers!! Evictions are rife !! Have we gone back in
time!!! A generation of hidden homeless (I myself am 1 ) students
using soup runs because their rents are so high , kids and families
queuing for food on the side of the street !! Landlords ripping
everyone off !! We are socially so poor!!
A cervical check scandel that have killed our women and still no
one is held accountable !! Our grandparents, children , family and
friends lying on trolleys for days !!!
An education system where kids with learning difficulties cannot
access a right to education !!!
Our country is going backwards for its Citizens and forward for
the elite !! If we don't rise up and fight back , I'm genuinely so
scared for all of our futures !!
Because that's all it takes , a few concerned citizens to change
things , we deserve it !! We have suffered for long enough !!
Stand up and let's all fight back for a better Ireland for everyone
We need this for all of us
Most of us run from the car to house, imagine having no where to run from the cold , imagine all you have is a
sleeping bags if your one if the lucky ones !! When did we become so ok with 200 people sleeping in doorways
right across this city !!
Please think of our humans with no homes this winter, we need all the socks , gloves , underwear, hats, scarfs, and
warm clothes and footwear, if you can help please get in touch
Thanks to everyone who helps us help others on a weekly basis
Glenda and Padraig and marks and Spencer for the fab cakes and fruit
@Difontaines on parliament street for the amazing pizza, Julie has supported us from day one , you can buy a slice
of Pizza in this fine establishment and payit forward so we receive amazing wagon wheel pizzas
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Minister of Justice Charlie Flanagan said what had happened was very
serious. Photograph: PA
Fianna Fáil Brexit spokesperson Lisa Chambers TD said she sat in the wrong
seat in the Dáil. File photograph: Fran Veale/The Irish Times
A Fianna Fáil frontbencher has said she mistakenly
voted for her deputy leader in the Dáil last week.
Lisa Chambers, the Fianna Fáil spokeswoman on Brexit,
told The Irish Times she sat in the seat normally
occupied by Dara Calleary, who was absent at the time.
It was during the same block of votes which saw Niall
Collins vote for Timmy Dooley, who was not in the
chamber at the time, six times.
Mr Calleary’s vote was only recorded on one occasion he
was not in the chamber, and the Mayo TD was on radio
at that time.
All you need to know about Dáil electronic voting
Varadkar ‘not aware’ of any Government TDs voting for
each other in Dáil
Fianna Fáil TD says colleague voted for him while he was
not in Dáil
Ms Chambers, also a Mayo TD, and Mr Calleary sit on
the same row in the Dáil chamber.
Fianna Fáil deputy leader Dara Calleary was not in the Dáil at the time of the
vote. Photograph: Dara Mac Dónaill/The Irish Times
In a statement, Ms Chambers said she voted in Mr
Calleary’s slot by mistake before then moving to vote in
her own position during a vote on an amendment on a
forestry motion.
Earlier on Sunday, Ms Chambers told RTÉ she had never
voted for a colleague nor had a colleague vote for her.
She told The Irish Times: “On Thursday last I
inadvertently sat in the wrong seat in the Dáil during
voting time. I sat in Dara Calleary’s seat, which is beside
my seat. I pressed the button once in error on the first
vote, no one asked me to do this and when I realised, I
immediately moved to my own seat. The vote was lost by
a large number so I did not inform the Teller. It was a
genuine mistake and not intended. I have informed the
Ceann Comhairle this evening of my error.
“I genuinely believed that this error was insignificant
and when asked on RTÉ today had I ever voted for
anyone else I answered no, as was never asked to vote
for anyone else. For this I apologise.”
Mr Calleary said: “After participating in a live Radio Interview I returned
to Dáil chamber at about 2.10pm on Thursday and voted in the remaining
votes.
“I understand that Deputy Chambers inadvertently voted in my seat for the
first of those votes but not for any of the remaining ones for which I was
absent. She mistakenly did not correct the record on the day hence my
name is registered. She has contacted the Ceann Comhairle this evening to
advise him of this.”
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Voting controversy,
Flanagan writes to Ceann
Comhairle over ‘illegality’
Minister says ‘I believe we are really striking at the heart of
our democratic system here’
Mon, Oct 21, 2019,
Brian Hutton
Minister of Justice Charlie Flanagan said what had happened was very
serious. Photograph: PA
Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan has written to the
Ceann Comhairle over what he has described as the
“illegal act” of a Fianna Fáil frontbencher voting for a
colleague absent from the Dáil.
His letter came after revelations that Fianna Fáil TD
Niall Collins voted six times for party colleague Timmy
Dooley while he was absent from the chamber during the
weekly bloc voting session on Thursday.
The two senior TDs stood down from the party’s
frontbench at the request of Fianna Fáil leader Micheál
Martin, pending the outcome of an investigation into
alleged voting irregularities by Ceann Comhairle Sean O
Fearghaíl.
The controversy over the absent votes means any law
passed on the basis of a “fraudulent vote” will now be
subject to challenge, the Minister of Justice said.
Mr Flanagan described what had happened as a really,
really serious misdemeanour in our parliamentary
system where it is alleged that somebody arranged a vote
inside in the chamber and had absented themselves from
the chamber when the doors are firmly locked,” he said.
“That to me is prima facie very suspect behaviour and
totally unacceptable.”
Mr Flanagan said he wrote to the Ceann Comhairle Seán
Ó Fearghaíl about the issue over the weekend and is
expecting him to publish a report at the earliest possible
opportunity.
“It is important that we have an independent assessment
of the auspices of the Ceann Comhairle. He is the
protector of members’ interests and standing orders.”
Mr Flanagan on Monday declined to apologise for having
voted for other colleagues himself while in the chamber.
TDs have long had concerns over electronic voting in the
Dáil
Dáil voting rules to be tightened as ‘votegate’ controversy
deepens
Shane Ross mistakenly voted for absent colleague but
corrected record
Fianna Fáil TD Timmy Dooley who has stepped down from the party’s
frontbench. James Forde/The Irish Times
“There may have been times when people are passing
through trying to get to their seated position. In such a
situation a button may well be pressed in anticipation of
that person taking their seat. That has happened on
occasion.”
Mr Flanagan said there was a difference between voting
for a colleague who was present in the chamber and
those who were not present.
He said after the division bell, the doors are sealed after
eight minutes and anybody inside is invited to vote.
“Anybody outside the chamber has no entitlement to
vote,” he said. “That’s the issue here. A proxy vote is
strictly prohibited under the standing orders of the Dáil
and the Constitution. This is far from over. It is very
serious,” he warned.
He said what Mr Collins and Mr Dooley were being
investigated for “a completely different issue, because it
seems that one of them had deliberately, with intent,
absented themselves from votes, and that’s where the
illegality is.”
The controversy over the absent votes means any law passed on the basis of a
“fraudulent vote” will now be subject to challenge, the Minister of Justice said.
“This is a really, really serious issue in our parliamentary process,” he said.
Mr Flanagan said he wrote to the Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl about the issue
over the weekend “because I believe we are really striking at the heart of our democratic
system here.”
Dáil voting row sparks
uptick in FF-FG tensions
Sharp political exchanges on controversy seen as prelude
to general election campaign
October 22, 19
Harry McGee Political Correspondent
EU for the Art 50 extension, arguing MPs have given their consent for
a deal. European Union (Withdrawal) Act (Section 13) shows that the
Agreement can only be ratified if parliament has approved and passed
Act.
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European Parliament to give its content was the passage of the European Union
(Withdrawal Agreement) Bill (WAB) to Royal Assent.
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The footage shows that Ministers Michael Creed, Michael Ring, Simon
Harris and junior Defence Minister Paul Kehoe were the only ones
present in the front row but in total five votes were cast on amendment
13 to the bill proposed by Labour's Jan O'Sullivan.
She was talking to Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe and was at the
back of the chamber during a previous amendment to the bill.
"She has never and never would ask anyone to vote for her when she
was not in the chamber and would not condone such behaviour," her
spokesman said.
Both Labour and Sinn Féin have called on TDs Timmy Dooley and Niall
Collins to make statements today on their roles in the Dáil voting
controversy.
Labour leader Brendan Howlin and Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou
McDonald both said the two TDs must outline all the facts around the
scandal in the Dáil.
Ms McDonald went further and also called for some sort of sanctions
for any TDs who had voted for others who may have been outside the
chamber.
That is not the way any parliament can function. And that certainly has to have
consequences for people who do that.
Mr Howlin said he had never voted on another deputy's behalf while
they were outside the chamber or asked someone to do so for him.
Ms McDonald said the same. The Sinn Féin leader added: "Inside the
chamber there has been a practice of people moving chairs are hitting
buttons for each other. And I think that should stop.
I mean, to be frank, I think people should just sit in their own chair and try and
hit the right button.
"It's really not good enough, that people who are who are not inside
the chamber would have votes cast on their behalf.
"I don't know if there's a sanction for it. But I know this, it is a very
serious situation.
"And yes, we have, we have found one situation where multiple votes
were cast on behalf of a deputy who was not present, and that raises
the obvious question.
"Was this a one off? Is this a pattern of behavior? And then that raises
questions around the results of votes."
Sources have said that part of the investigation is to focus on why the
vote tellers - during last Thursday's eight votes – did not properly tally
the votes with the numbers of persons present in the chamber
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Both have insisted they never asked anyone to vote for them when not
present in the Dáil after video footage from recent weeks showed both
absent on occasions when their vote button was pressed.
Other deputies have also said they may have pressed a colleague’s
voting button but only when they were actually in the chamber.
“I’m very concerned about voting patterns which were revealed at the
weekend, in reference to voting patterns of last week,” said Mr
Flanagan, who also admitted that a wider review of all TDs may open a
“can of worms” for his own party as much as Fianna Fáil.
Ms Chambers said she did not inform the tellers after she mistakenly
voted in her colleague Dara Calleary’s seat and denied ever doing that
in a radio interview on Sunday.
As it was put to me yesterday - the Maria Bailey fiasco was such a Fine
Gael type of scandal, while the 'Vote-gate' row is a classic Fianna Fáil
one.
For decades, Fine Gaelers were always seen as the class prefects, the
best turned out and representatives of the elite in legal, business and
government circles
Fianna Fáil, on the other hand, was the party of the bold boys, the men
who used to stand at the back of mass smoking, the cute hoors who
played fast and loose when it came to rules and obligations.
That is why, the video footage of Fianna Fáil TDs Timmy Dooley and
Niall Collins discussing the vote in the Dail last Thursday was so typical
of Fianna Fáil of old. Collins voted six times for Dooley while he was
absent from the chamber during the weekly divisions.
The quick request of Dooley as he exited the chamber, met by the casual half
nod to the affirmative from Collins, encapsulated how too easy it was.
The reports have opened up a hornets' nest of how votes in the Dáil are carried
out. The day began with Fianna Fail's Brexit spokeswoman, Lisa Chambers,
having to explain why she voted incorrectly in her constituency colleague Dara
Calleary's seat but didn't tell anyone about it, and incorrectly stated she had
never done anything like that on national radio.
Then we have had a plethora of admissions from ministers
and TDs alike that they too have pressed the vote button for
other people from time to time. Communications Minister
Richard Bruton said TDs casting ballots for each other was
“common practice”.
While saying a fellow TD has never voted for him when he
wasn’t in the chamber, the Minister said:
If I was sitting in someone else’s chair ... and someone was
sitting ... you know, I’d just say press my button, I’m here.
That has become common practice. But what has gone
wrong here is that people not in the chamber at all voted.
While the two TDs have been temporarily stood down from
the party’s frontbench at the behest of their leader Micheál
Martin, all eyes now turn to the outcome of the
investigation into alleged voting irregularities by the Ceann
Comhairle.
While Martin has shown considerable bravery by insisting
the two men step down, he had little option. He also must
be pulling his hair out.
At a time when his party was gaining momentum and
looking ahead with some anticipation to the by-elections in
November and/or the General Election, this episode has
killed such progress.
Fine Gael has sought to make hay and its strategy is clear –
attack Fianna Fáil's competence on all fronts in a bid to
shore up its own position. When Fianna Fáil is gifting Fine
Gael such easy wins, that job becomes all the easier.
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voting-deepens-as-more-tds-become-embroiled-in-controversy-958824.html
On Saturday, it emerged Fianna Fáil TD Niall Collins voted six times for
party colleague Timmy Dooley while Mr Dooley was absent from the
chamber during weekly votes on Thursday.
Both Mr Collins and Mr Dooley have since been suspended from the
party frontbench by Fianna Fáil leader Micheal Martin, pending an
investigation by Mr Ó Fearghaíl into what happened.
This morning, it emerged that Fianna Fáil TD Lisa Chambers had also
voted on behalf of colleague Dara Calleary while Mr Calleary was in the
chamber.
"I would [like to see a tightening of Dáil regulations]," he said. "I'm very
concerned about voting patterns which were revealed at the weekend, in
particular reference to voting patterns of last week.
I believe it's important therefore that there be an independent
assessment under the auspices of the Ceann Comhairle of the Dáil.
"He's the protector of members interests, the guardian of the rules and
standing orders, and I believe it's important that investigation can get
underway and that report be published at the earliest opportunity.
"I was in touch with the Ceann Comhairle at the weekend, he indicated
to me in writing that he is having an investigation and that he will be
prepared to publish that report at an early date."
"As a former chief whip myself I believe it's important the practice and
procedure of the house in terms of voting that only those votes are
counted. That goes to the essence of the constitutional requirement of
Dáil Éireann."
Asked if all TDs should clarify if they ever voted for a colleague, and
what the circumstances of the situation involved, Mr Flanagan said:
"that would take its course in the context of the Ceann Comhairle's
examination".
Pushed on the issue, he said: "I'm sure they will do in due course having
regard for the seriousness of the situation."
Mr Flanagan said there is no reason for him to apologise for voting for
another TD who was physically in the Dáil chamber at the time, saying:
"No, it's not a question of jumping around seats, there are occasions
when people are sitting in the Taoiseach's seat.
Mr Flanagan said when asked if a wider review of all TDs may open a
can of worms for his own party as much as Fianna Fáil that "that's a
matter for themselves [his party colleagues]… I think the issue is the
illegal nature and the unlawful act of proxy voting which is a really
serious misdemeanour in our parliamentary system".
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This is a very serious situation which requires urgent action’ - Ceann Comhairle begins with a
statement on the voting controversy
Vote Gate is subject to complaint under Ethics in Public Office Act, says Ceann Comhaire. He
adds that TDs must be seated to vote from now on. Procedures Committee will meet on
Thursday and consider report on controversy.
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To vote for somebody else, that’s impersonation, or to vote twice that is a crime. It certainly
would be no defence to say that it didn’t matter because the person who won won by a big
margin anyway.
Jesus wept they ALREADY HAVE designated seats. Otherwise how could you know you
were sitting in someone else's seat as has been claimed. They really do believe we are
fucking stupid
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votes recorded despite him being absent
“Beyond the investigation being taken up ably by
the Ceann Comhairle, how are we to establish whether or
not this practice is, and has been, in fact, widespread and
how will we deal with the consequences of that?” McDonald
asked Varadkar.
In response, Varadkar said “the integrity of the voting
process is integral to our democracy”.
He continued:
If an ordinary citizen voted twice, for example, and voted for
somebody else as well as themselves, that would be a crime.
To vote for somebody else, that’s impersonation, or to vote
twice that is a crime. It certainly would be no defence to say
that it didn’t matter because the person who won won by a
big margin anyway.
Varadkar said “we must apply to people in this House the
same standards as we would apply to ordinary citizens going
out to vote on voting day, on election day or on referendum
day”.
The Taoiseach went on to say he believes there is “a world of
a difference” between being in the chamber but not being in
your seat and not being in the chamber at all.
“In order to allay any concerns or confusion, I think we
should all now be in our seats for all votes from now on.”
Varadkar said “we must apply to people in this House the same standards as we
would apply to ordinary citizens going out to vote on voting day, on election day
or on referendum day”.
“In order to allay any concerns or confusion, I think we should all now be in our
seats for all votes from now on.”
Pardon my ignorance here but I don’t get this ‘world of difference between
being in the chamber and not in your seat, and not being in the chamber at
all’. Either you pushed your button and voted yourself or somebody else
pushed your button and you did not vote yourself.
Now we know why Bertie’s voting machines were ditched. TD’s believed that
the general population would behave as they do. You really couldn’t make
this up.
Is it not the Ceann Comhairle’s job to make sure the Members stick to the
Rules? Did he turn a blind eye, or is he asleep at the wheel too
Did Mary Lou have anything to say about her own crowd pressing the button
when not in their seat.
Nothing will happen, 1,000 Euro fine and banned from the chamber, then you
might get their attention, however nothing will happen as usual
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Oct2019/?fbclid=IwAR0zdcUppDgUBVC19u5RlLbWxympuLwDtJDBWyLFe32bu
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Imagine how many times this legislation was abused...
I very much doubt Shane Ross is the first or the last...
They didn’t go to all the trouble of writing, debating and passing this legislation just for
Shane bloody Ross to hide his activities that the public are entitled to know behind this
legislation as “private papers”.
I hope you can appreciate and understand just how damaging to an open and transparent
democracy this development represents..
State apology for CervicalCheck failures October 21 2019
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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has apologised to the women and their loved ones who suffered
from what he said were 'a litany of failures' in how cervical screening in our country operated
over many years
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Renters, mortgage holders, asylum seekers stuck in direct provision, hidden homeless,
students, Travellers in overcrowded halting sites, people on the social housing list,
people who've refused homeless services, people who are waiting for affordable housing,
single people, single parent families....
Our housing and accommodation needs cannot be ignored if we present them united.
The FG-FF government rub their hands in glee when they see honest and motivating
groups like this containing people who attempt to deflect the anger away from the government
and onto minorities.
Other people suffering are not the problem. The problem is Airbnb and other short term tenancy
arrangements , a reliance on the private rental market, evictions, the failure to build public housing
and the vast amount of houses lying empty across the state that take ages to turn around because
local authorities keep outsourcing the retrofit work to private contractors.
Stick to a message of unity of demands and those who are inadvertently doing the government's
work for them by being discriminatory will fall away.
Back in those times ash we went home to a warm bed and ours didnt have that worrie its disgraceful
everybody deserves a home and when your actully putting yourself out there and there laughing at you
does have ye fuming they would happily make you cry quicker then letting you down gently and i just
think now as it stands its just not acceptable our kids are goimg grow up in to this mess and where will
there mental health be when there older who will be left with the guilt and the blaim us when the
system is failing us and its resulting on them its not fair i dont want my kids growing up and
remebering back to a time we wore × homeless × its sicking thanks ash well all do this togather please
god cause ill die trying
My poem Called
I’m Homeless all Alone
By Rita Cahill
Oct 2019
its about the Homeless i hope you all like it
We Walk The streets with our Head's Bowed Down
we are The Homeless with no where to Go. And life gets us down,
We Try to get by Day to Day
but the light in our eyes is fading away.
We were once young and so full of Life.
And the only thing we wanted was to have a Good life
But our Dreams have turned upside Down
where once we had Sunshine
But now only rain
.As we lie on the streets and Feel so Alone and in pain .
We pray in Silence that This feeling will Go Away.
So we get up in the morning and try to make it through the Day
But that fear of loneliness will not go away..
we sit in silence and watch people pass By
A Silent tear will fall from my eye,
We try to think of the Good times instead of the Bad,
we hope to god one Day the pain and loneliness will Go away
My Hopes and Dreams just Scathered around,
Wondering around for hours in the town,
The Happy Ending to get that home we never had,
I Walk for hours and bleed my feet, every Day
October 30th 19
A senior official has assured fossil fuel industry bosses they can keep exploring
for gas, telling them Ireland is "under-explored" and needs "several more
Corribs to be discovered".
The assurances were given at a conference hosted by the oil and gas industry
with the backing of the Department of Communications, Climate Action and
the Environment.
Minister for Natural Resources Seán Canney told the 300 delegates a secure
gas supply was "a priority" for the department.
But he said he recognised the important investments the industry had made in
Ireland, and he stressed: "Clearly gas remains an important transition fuel.
"There remains an imperative for secure supply of natural gas to the State to
support our industries, to heat our homes and to support our way of life," he
said.
"It's a bit of a sad picture in terms of the density of well drilling in recent
years," she said. "We need several more Corribs to be discovered."
Ms Morgan said the PAD had put a lot of emphasis over the last year in
promoting its work at national events, including the Young Scientists
competition and in universities.
"We're targeting a younger generation. We're trying to inform them about the
benefits of exploration," she said.
"I hope you have abundant gas deposits out there," she told the delegates.
Asked afterwards how the speeches were compatible with the aims of carbon
neutrality, Climate Action Minister Richard Bruton referred to the advisory
council's backing of continued gas use.
This, from the technical head of the Irish Petroleum Affairs Division - a government departmental
body. Just in case you were wondering whom the Irish government serves.
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The letter confirmed the public service card price tag has increased by
€8m since early 2017, with the total cost including €294,000 on "facial
matching software and maintenance" among other matters.
Raising the issue - and the ongoing row between the Government and
the Data Protection Commisioner over the cards - Social Democrats co-
leader Catherine Murphy said the costs raise further questions.
Noting the money involved, she said the Department and Minister
Doherty must now give the full price tag of the "lifespan" of the project,
and that clarity is now needed on the money spent on "facial matching"
software.
"Can you ask them about the lifespan of the card and what the
potential cost is?" Ms Murphy asked PAC chair and Fianna Fáil TD Sean
Fleming.
The issue was raised during a PAC meeting which also heard calls for
the chief officer of public procurement, Paul Quinn, to launch a
widescale review of all Government departments and groups amid a
series of tender rule breaches concerns.
Highlighting a letter from child protection agency, Tusla, which noted a
number of tender rules issues affecting the organisation, Mr Fleming
said he wants any potential wider problems to be identified.
At a later stage of the meeting, Fianna Fáil TD Marc Mac Sharry asked
for Mr Quinn - who the Irish Examiner revealed this week has stepped
down from a key children's hospital board - to personally appear,
saying: "I think he can certainly add ... value."
Social Protection Minister Regina Doherty has been urged to explain why money is being
spent on public service card "facial matching software" despite repeated assurances the
Government has no plans to use the tool.
Social Democrats co-leader Catherine Murphy called for the clarity after the first figures in
two years for the system found the cost of the project to date has now hit €67.8m.
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Vetting is required for any employees who may be working with either
children or vulnerable adults.
This is carried out via a points system, with 100 points required to
reach the relevant threshold, which in practice requires a form of
identification and an acceptable verification of address. The PSC
represents the joint most valuable form of identification per the live
vetting forms, at 80 points, along with a driving licence.
“The reassurances given by Government that the uses of the card can
be effectively curtailed are hard to give credence to when it’s blatantly
being used as an ID and the gardaí are not supposed to be able to ask
for it,” said Antoin Ó Lachtnain, director with Digital Rights Ireland.
“GoMo have the excuse of simply not knowing any better, but you
would expect An Garda Síochána to know what the rules are,” he said.
“There has to be a strategy for this kind of thing, with a carefully
considered solution, and the PSC is not that solution.”
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gardai-using-psc-for-vetting-forms-
despite-law-959754.html
With Fianna Fail in disarray over VoteGate, the Blueshirts and
Varadkar can win the upcoming General Election - if enough of
you keyboard warriors just keep moaning and don't bother voting.
Fine Gael's own loyal support base of around 25% can get them
back into power. All they need is a low turnout on voting day and
Varadkar will be Taoiseach until 2025. Just think of the damage
they can inflict on the people of this country in 5 years, the billions
more that they will waste, the tens of thousands who won't be
housed, the unfortunate sick people who will die because of
Simon Harris. Water charges of course will be introduced straight
away, pensions will be cut and workers will be crucified with huge
Carbon Tax deductions from wages. Our young people will be
sent to fight endless wars on behalf of the EU's PESCO army -
and many will come home in body bags. But some people will be
very happy - Denis O'Brien will get plenty of juicy state contracts,
the Vulture Funds and the bankers will rake in billions and pay
little or no tax. That's Fine Gael's way you see. They are a party of
the rich, for the rich.
So don't vote, stay at home on election day and keep these elite
gangsters happy and wealthy.
The issue is we've no credible alternative to ff/fg. I want to vote , I go to the polling station hoping to
vote but when I get there no ones name on the ballot paper is worth voting for, they won't bring enough
changes . Also I live in the consituency Dun Laoghaire Rathdown. 4 of our 7 TDs are Fine Gael , one is
independant , he's our current minister for transport Shane Ross, one green party and one solidarity
pepole before profit. A wise person once said if voting changes anythjng they would make it illegal
Fucking joke getting houses in Citywest ,
homes should be for the Irish , well deserving me arse
our own are dying on the streets
We will be like the UK in a few years. If we as a people don’t stop this madness. These people will be
a drain on the welfare system. While native Irish die in the streets. It is a shame on us letting theses
parasites in the Dail destroy our beautiful country let’s put the Irish poor and homeless first. Is there
anybody out there to organize a protest march against this because the Irish did not vote for this
migration madness.
TDs' wages jump to over
€96,000 after pay hike -
here's what the political
parties have said about it
so far
TDs have received a 1.75 per cent pay increase Stock picture
Anne-Marie Walsh
September 1 2019
TDs' wages have jumped to over €96,000 a year following
a pay rise over the weekend.
They will receive a 1.75 per cent pay increase that boosts
their wages by over €1,600 a year in their next pay check.
And their salaries are set to rise even closer to
the €100,000 mark next year.
Another increase that is also due under the Public Service
Stability Agreement will bring their €96, 89 wages up to
€98,113 on October 1 2020.
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Fine Gael last night claimed the records should be examined as part of an
ethics investigation that is to start next week.
The two TDs along with Lisa Chambers and Barry Cowen have apologised for
their involvement in last week's bizarre Dáil session that sparked the
'phantom voting' saga.
They now face an agonising wait to learn if they will be punished for their
actions including possible suspension.
A probe carried out by the clerk of the Dáil, Peter Finnegan, makes no findings
against any of the TDs and does not recommend any sanctions.
Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl told the Dáil that "due process" must be
followed and the committee must do its work first. Mr Ó Fearghaíl said that
after this, "if there are to be sanctions, it's for this House and this House alone
to decide".
The Votegate storm began after the Irish Independent revealed that Mr
Dooley's vote was recorded six times last week despite his absence. Mr Collins
later admitted he had pressed Mr Dooley's voting button in the mistaken
belief Mr Dooley was present at the back of the chamber.
Video footage shows the pair having a brief conversation before Mr Dooley
points to his seat and leaves the Dáil chamber. Mr Dooley told the Dáil clerk's
investigation he was telling Mr Collins: "I'll see you at the vote but I have to
make a call."
Mr Collins, meanwhile, is seen in the footage taking a quick phone call while
he was in the chamber voting for Mr Dooley. The Limerick TD told the Dáil
inquiry he couldn't recall who phoned him.
Mr Collins also said he couldn't explain why he stopped voting for Mr Dooley
in the series of eight votes, having pressed his colleague's voting button in the
first six.
Last night Fine Gael heaped pressure on both men saying their phone records
should be provided to the ethics inquiry.
"If the deputies involved want to prove their case it's an obvious way to do it,"
said party chairman Martin Heydon.
Mr Collins and Mr Dooley did not respond to queries about whether they
would be willing to provide such records. Both TDs told the Dáil they would
co-operate with the committee examining the ethics complaints as they
apologised for what happened last week.
Mr Cowen apologised for "carelessness" in sitting in the wrong seat for last
week's voting session.
Party leader Micheál Martin said Mr Dooley and Mr Collins remain suspended
from the Fianna Fáil front bench. He said what happened was "wrong" but hit
out at Fine Gael and others for what he argued were partisan attacks on
Fianna Fáil.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/votegate-tds-now-face-
pressure-to-hand-over-phone-records-38629524.html
"I remember myself coming out of the chamber one evening and meeting
Martin Cullen who suffered terribly with his back.
"He was ashen with agony and I said to him ‘for God’s sake, you’re not
physically fit to be here’. But the Whips said he had to be there to vote.
"Up to this Dáil, votes were deadly serious matters and people took them
deadly seriously."
"I remember the debate when electronic voting was being brought in.
Originally what I understood was going to happen was that we would all have
our own identity cards," Mr Howlin said.
"Originally the idea was that you would slot the card, as they do in the
European Parliament, into the voting machine and that would activate the
voting machine.
"The Whips got worried that TDs would turn up without their card and that
they would lose close votes. They were afraid that some TDs would simply not
be able to vote."
Also the ‘Floating Voter’, he discusses the latest developments on Brexit and
suggests the Labour Party will enter a coalition after the next election if they
have the numbers
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/the-floating-voter-
on-votegate-howlin-recalls-how-dick-spring-came-into-dil-on-a-
stretcher-to-vote-38628533.html
FORMER Tánaiste Dick Spring had to be brought into the Dáil on a stretcher
to vote after a serious road accident, Labour Party leader Brendan Howlin has
recalled.
The Wexford TD said up until the current Dáil, voting was seen as being of
"monumental importance" but it has now been "cheapened".
"I remember myself coming out of the chamber one evening and meeting
Martin Cullen who suffered terribly with his back.
"He was ashen with agony and I said to him ‘for God’s sake, you’re not
physically fit to be here’. But the Whips said he had to be there to vote.
"Up to this Dáil, votes were deadly serious matters and people took them
deadly seriously."
Mr Howlin blames confidence and supply for the current ‘Votegate’
controversy, saying the Government now regularly loses votes and nobody
pays attention.
"I remember the debate when electronic voting was being brought in.
Originally what I understood was going to happen was that we would all have
our own identity cards," Mr Howlin said.
"Originally the idea was that you would slot the card, as they do in the
European Parliament, into the voting machine and that would activate the
voting machine.
"The Whips got worried that TDs would turn up without their card and that
they would lose close votes. They were afraid that some TDs would simply not
be able to vote."
Also the ‘Floating Voter’, he discusses the latest developments on Brexit and
suggests the Labour Party will enter a coalition after the next election if they
have the numbers
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/the-floating-voter-on-votegate-howlin-recalls-how-dick-spring-
came-into-dil-on-a-stretcher-to-vote-38628533.html
Former Tánaiste Dick Spring had to be brought into the Dáil on a stretcher to
vote after a serious road accident, Brendan Howlin has recalled.
The Wexford TD said up until the current Dáil, voting was seen as being of
"monumentally importance" but it has now been "cheapened".
"I remember Dick Spring being carried in on a stretcher to vote. In tight votes,
he was required to be present and physically brought into the chamber
because at the time he wasn't allowed a pair," Mr Howlin says.
"I remember myself coming out of the chamber one evening and meeting
Martin Cullen who suffered terribly with his back.
"He was ashen with agony and I said to him, 'for God's sake, you're not
physically fit to be here'. But the whips said he had to be there to vote.
"Up to this Dáil, votes were deadly serious matters and people took them
deadly seriously."
He said the machines are already equipped for log-in cards but parties
previously argued against them.
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Billy Kelleher. Photo: Gareth Chaney, Collins
Fianna Fáil MEP Billy Kelleher has said he would have
backed a proposal for the EU to step up search-and-rescue
operations for refugees in the Mediterranean - but he had
to catch a flight home.
The resolution was defeated by just two votes in the
European Parliament in Strasbourg on Thursday with all
four of Fine Gael’s MEPs voting it down. The party has
defended its decision claiming the resolution as worded
would have endangered more lives.
Mr Kelleher was not present and nor was another Irish
MEP, the independent Clare Daly. She was spotted
walking into Leinster House in Dublin on Thursday
evening.
Mr Kelleher, who was elected to the European Parliament
in May, said on Twitter that he "100% would have voted in
favour of this resolution".
However, he said that the voting block had been slow to
get underway and he had to leave at 12.45pm in order to
get a bus to Frankfurt in Germany where he then flew to
Dublin before travelling home to Cork.
Mr Kelleher wrote: "Yesterday, I voted on over 140
amendments and resolutions. Included in these were votes
in favour of many GUE/NGL amendments supporting
their position on refugees and migrants.
"However, voting was slow to start and as such I had to
leave at 12:45 in order to compete my 2.5 hour bus journey
to Frankfurt in order (sic) catch my flight back to Dublin
and then onto Cork."
Ms Daly did not respond to an immediate request for
comment on Friday.
Clare Daly speaking to the media (Niall Carson/PA)
Other Irish MEPs, including Green MEPs Ciarán Cuffe and Grace O'Sullivan,
Sinn Féin’s Matt Carthy, and Independents Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan and Mick
Wallace backed the resolution. Sinn Féin heavily criticised Fine Gael's
opposition to it.
The resolution called for EU member states to "enhance proactive search and
rescue operations by providing sufficient vessels and equipment specifically
dedicated to search and rescue operations and personnel, along the routes
where they can make an effective contribution to the preservation of lives" in
the Mediterranean.
The vote was held just a day after 39 Chinese nationals were found dead in a
lorry in Essex. It is believed they were smuggled into the UK.
Fine Gael MEP Maria Walsh defended her decision and that of her colleagues
Mairead McGuinness, Frances Fitzgerald and Sean Kelly to vote it down.
"What we see in Essex is that we have an incredibly serious issue with human
trafficking that we need to solve but sharing information on the most
vulnerable is not the way to do it," she said.
"We need to get back to the drawing board and fast. This report was loose in
language. It was putting NGOs at risk."
Fine Gael MEP Mairead McGuinness was one of those who voted
against
Sad, sad day for me. An MEP vote around supporting the
rescue of drowning migrants in the Mediterranean has
been defeated.
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‘Adequate provision’
Although the department has said that emergency
accommodation for asylum seekers is a temporary measure,
concerns have been raised about the length of time people
are spending in hotels and B&Bs and the level of service
provision.
Jennifer deWan of Nasc, the Migrant and Refugee Rights
Centre says that her organisation has raised the issue of “an
over-reliance on private contracts” to provide
accommodation for asylum seekers.
“It has become clear so far from how the emergency
accommodation is working that people who are being sent to
these emergency sites are not necessarily being supported
adequately,” deWan has said.
If RIA needs to use emergency accommodation then she
says it must “ensure that those going into that form of
accommodation are supported as much as possible” and that
they “aren’t left in an ‘emergency’ situation for long periods
of time”.
“We all know that the development of the direct provision
system was initially described as an ‘emergency’ or ‘interim’
measure in relation to high numbers of asylum seekers who
were experiencing homelessness in the late 1990s,” deWan
says. “We cannot let this happen again in the provision of
emergency accommodation.”
The 38 Direct Provision centres around Ireland
are currently at capacity. Although the department
continues to tender for more permanent centres, its tender
last month for additional emergency accommodation was
issued as a result of a fire at a hotel in Moville, Co Donegal
and a fire at the Shannon Key West Hotel in Roosky, Co
Leitrim. On Monday evening, a second fire broke out at the
Shannon Key West.
Both hotels were due to accommodate asylum seekers
arriving in Ireland.
A spokesperson for the department says that “it’s important
to note that the hotels in which these emergency beds are
provided are functioning businesses offering services to the
general public and are not RIA accommodation centre[s]“.
RIA has said that staff members are in “close and ongoing
contact” with service providers about service provision and
operational issues in emergency accommodation centres.
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september-to-source-emergency-accommodation-for-asylum-seekers-4481336-
Feb2019/?utm_source=story
Asylum seekers waiting for a decision on their application must be
provided with certain necessities that guarantee them an adequate
standard of living.
What is the Reception Conditions Directive?
The Reception Conditions Directive aims at ensuring better as well
as more harmonized standards of reception conditions throughout
the Union. It ensures that applicants have access to housing, food,
clothing, health care, education for minors and access to
employment under certain conditions.
The current Reception Conditions Directive was adopted in 2013.
It replaced Council Directive 2003/9/CE on minimum standards for
the reception of asylum seekers. The deadline for Member States
to transpose the Directive into national law was 20 July 2015.
In addition to the above mentioned provisions, the Directive also
provides particular attention to vulnerable persons, especially
unaccompanied minors and victims of torture. Member States
must, inter alia, conduct an individual assessment in order to
identify the special reception needs of vulnerable persons and to
ensure that vulnerable asylum seekers can access medical and
psychological support.
It also includes rules regarding detention of asylum seekers,
ensuring that their fundamental rights are fully respected.
Finally, access to employment for an asylum seeker must now be
granted within a maximum period of 9 months.
Towards a reform of the CEAS: the Asylum
Procedures Regulation proposal
The current Reception Conditions Directive still leaves a
considerable degree of discretion to define what constitutes an
adequate standard of living and how it should be achieved. Thus,
reception conditions continue to vary considerably between
Member States both in terms of how the reception system is
organized and in terms of the standard provided to asylum
seekers.
More recently, the European Agenda on Migration has further
underlined the importance of a clear system for the reception of
asylum seekers as part of a strong common European asylum
policy, while the migratory crisis has exposed the need to ensure
greater consistency in reception conditions across the EU and the
need to be better prepared to deal with large migration influxes.
In July 2016, the Commission presented a proposal
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do/policies/european-agenda-migration/proposal-implementation-
package/docs/20160713/proposal_on_standards_for_the_receptio
n_of_applicants_for_international_protection_en.pdf
If you divide a pie between more people, each person receives a smaller piece.
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4854854-Oct2019/?fbclid=IwAR2KpKaaJmaEFG0-ECH-
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Emergency accommodation:
Over 500 asylum seekers now
living in hotels and B and Bs
across Ireland
“The current reliance on private contractors is clearly not working,”
migrant rights centre Nasc has said.
Mar 31st 2019,
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emergency accommodation for asylum seekers
Nasc’s Finn has said RIA should have foreseen these current
capacity issues.
“The increase in numbers seeking asylum in Ireland was
clearly predicted by the McMahon Report and, in fact, we
had slighter fewer asylum seekers in 2018 than predicted by
the report,” Finn told TheJournal.ie.
“Additional infrastructure should have been put in place
from 2015 onwards however there was a failure to plan for
additional numbers.”
In June, retired High Court Judge Dr Bryan McMahon, who
chaired 2015’s working group report into the Direct
Provision system, said he was “totally against” the use of
emergency accommodation for asylum seekers and called on
RIA to expand its stock by building on State-owned sites.
Deputy Secretary General Oonagh Buckley of the Justice
Department told an Oireachtas Committee in June that the
same standard of services in Direct Provision centres could
not be provided in emergency set-ups.
‘Short-term basis’
Since hotels and B&Bs first came into use, only 285 people
have been re-accommodated to Direct Provision centres.
The EU Reception Conditions directive, which Ireland
signed up to last year, states that the Minister for Justice
may provide emergency accommodation. But it must be for
“as short a time as possible”.
Ireland is also legally required to conduct vulnerability
assessments, which aim to identify special reception needs
for asylum seekers and refugees.
Hotels and B&Bs will be in use on a short-term basis, the
department has maintained, despite a number of applicants
living in emergency accommodation since last November.
The Department confirmed to TheJournal.ie that it also has
no role in carrying out inspections of emergency
accommodation set-ups nor can it permit visits but said that
RIA staff hold clinics where they meet with residents in
emergency accommodation to address concerns.
“The Department does not control access to private
premises and for that reason, we are not in a position to
allow a visit in the same way that is possible at RIA [Direct
Provision] centres,” the spokesperson said.
“RIA typically contracts a defined number of rooms within
existing commercial hotels and guest houses and therefore
does not have exclusive use of the premises,” they added.
https://www.thejournal.ie/direct-provision-costs-emergency-accommodation-
4782558-Aug2019/?utm_source=story
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12.03.19
Direct Provision: Nearly 100 people relocated from
Monaghan hotel
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Emergency accommodation: Over 500 asylum seekers
now living in hotels and B and Bs across Ireland
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This is why we have a homeless crisis not cause of refugees and
migrants cause of capitalism . Homelessness is a by product of
capitalism
Homelessness isn't a byproduct of capitalism, the correct cause of the ails of our society are quite the
opposite, if the proponents of democratic capitalism were honest from the beginning these things
wouldn't exist,
We as citizens are literally the owners and shareholders of our country, according to the proper honest
principles of capitalist theory the state is literally the company that all the land, seas and resources were
put into when they were taken from the monarchs who had stolen it from us by force and subjugated
our ancestors, we all have one non transferable share each in this company/country, and according to
how capitalism is supposed to work, every share is of equal value, every share has a vote in the election
of the governing body, every share is entitled to be considered for election onto the governing body,
and the important part is that every share is entitled to equal dividend,
This shit that we all think is capitalism just isn't,
Not a single successful company anywhere splits its governance into several opposing factions and
succeeds, if our government was honestly capitalist and operating according to the principles of honest
capitalism they'd charge rent for all the commercial use of all the land seas and natural resources within
its borders and pay it's shareholders dividend from the profits gained, this would likely result in higher
productivity from commercial land use, increasing GDP, plus shareholder dividend payments to every
citizen would stimulate a consumer economy creating work, plus feed and shelter us all. We are all
idiots arguing about left and right or socialism and capitalism when we should really grow up and cop
on. We all have a share in the most powerful company in the country, the Irish state, literally a share in
the company that dictates the rules under which all other companies must operate, and all we need do is
elect ourselves a functioning governing body that acts in our interests, and treats us as shareholders in
this company instead of a Labour force to be taxed and lied to.
Mr Coveney, Mr Harris and Mr Bruton travelled with three delegates each. While Ms
Zappone, Mrs McEntee and Mr Cannon travelled with their private secretaries.
The figures also show the Taoiseach, the ministers and delegates racked up a €2,081
bill on taxis and Ubers over the course of their stay.
We deserve everything we get.. We are a nation of sheep.. How the fuck could we face
Pearse, Tone, Emmet, Sands or Connolly in heaven.. I'll be hiding behind the robes of jesus
begging for forgiveness
SCARY STUFF.....
LEO VARADKAR IN BOTANIC GARDENS THIS MORNING FOR REVIEW OF CLIMATE ACTION
PLAN A FEW WEEKS AFTER FLYING HIMSELF, 7 MINISTERS INCLUDING ZAPPONE AND 24
STAFF TO NEW YORK FOR CLIMATE CONFERENCE THAT COST TAXPAYERS €100,000
APPROX.
Seven ministers and twenty four staff went to New York on a junket on your dime...
IRISH WATER IN VERY HOT WATER IN MOVILLE ... OUR VICTORY IN BRUSSELS
HAS THEM ASKING ABP IF THEY REQUIRE AN EIA FOR THEIR SUB THRESHOLD
DEVELOPMENT ... EUR. COMMISSION WILL SCRUTINISE THE OUTCOME
CAREFULLY ... IN THE MEANTIME HERE ARE A FEW OF THE HURDLES THEY
MUST JUMP...
This checklist is designed to help competent/consent authorities decide
whether EIA is required based on the characteristics of the likely
impacts of a project i.e. to decide whether the effects of a project are
likely to be significant.
Questions to be considered
1. Will there be a large change in environmental conditions?
2. Will new features be out-of-scale with the existing environment?
3. Will the effect be particularly complex?
4. Will the effect extend over a large area?
5. Will there be any potential for transfrontier impact?
6. Will many people be affected?
7. Will many receptors of other types (fauna and flora, businesses,
facilities) be affected?
8. Will valuable or scarce features or resources be affected?
9. Is there a risk that environmental standards will be breached?
10. Is there a risk that protected sites, areas, features will be affected?
11. Is there a high probability of the effect occurring?
12. Will the effect continue for a long time?
13. Will the effect be permanent rather than temporary?
14. Will the impact be continuous rather than intermittent?
15. If it is intermittent will it be frequent rather than rare?
16. Will the impact be irreversible?
17. Will it be difficult to avoid, or reduce or repair or compensate for
the effect?
Taoiseach says direct
provision 'better than
using tents'
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‘Come forward’: Leo Varadkar called for information on attack on
TD’s car. Photo: Gareth Chaney, Collins
Kevin Doyle
October 31 2019
While defending the use of provision centres, the Taoiseach admitted his
Government needs to work more closely with communities before housing
asylum seekers.
He met last night with Garda Commissioner Drew Harris to discuss an arson
attack on a car at the home of a Sinn Féin TD earlier this week.
The people of the town have been protesting against the proposed re-
settlement on the grounds it is disproportionate to the town's population and
infrastructure.
And he said many of the fears felt by communities selected for asylum seekers
are unfounded.
"I don't want to end up in a situation like they have in France or Italy or
Greece, where they are accommodating people in tents. I really want to avoid
that and that's why we need to explain to people better why direct provision is
the best solution for the moment," he said.
The Taoiseach said the Department of Justice is examining "all the time how
we can make improvements" to direct provision.
He said the same openness is needed in towns like Ballinamore where plans
for direct provision housing have been paused. But the Taoiseach said there
are 38 direct provision centres dotted around the country already.
Gina Ward Leo why dont you spend a month living in a direct
provision Centre and then we will speak to you and see what your
answer is then
Davie Lawless What a Fucking muppet
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better-than-using-tents-
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A first class cunt ( excuse my French ) other words fail me ...,
The bank levy yields €150m annually. However, Opposition TDs want
the tax exemption, which allows banks write off taxes against past
losses, scrapped. This is despite many banks having returned to huge
profit.
Last year, Bank of Ireland, AIB, and PTSB made combined profits of
€2.5bn. However, they paid no tax. In 2015, the Government changed
the rules allowing banks to defer taxes for up to 20 years.
While the report was scheduled to be completed in June, the scope was
extended so officials could examine scrapping tax exemptions for all
corporate entities as well as the use of a sunset clause.
The department is also conscious that any tax increases for State-
owned banks, particularly AIB, could affect their share prices.
“The taxpayer has a huge interest here already,” said the department
source.
Department tax strategy group papers for Budget 2019, released earlier
this month, show there is little appetite to scrap exemptions for the
banks.
One paper noted the bank levy yields €150m annually and was
introduced “in part to recognise the fact that many banks would not
pay” tax for many years.
The paper noted Mr Donohoe views the “bank levy as the appropriate
method of ensuring the banks contribute to the exchequer”.
The report on bank taxes is expected to say that the provision of relief
for such losses is a standard feature of Ireland’s tax code and that of all
other countries in the OECD. It will also examine how other
governments do or do not allow bank losses to be carried over.
The latest Revenue figures, for 2016, show that trading losses carried
forward in all sectors amounted to some €214bn. Over half of this was
in the financial and insurance sectors.
Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty wants a 25% cap on the carrying forward of
losses and a 10-year limit to ensure banks pay a fair share.
The party maintains that the tax system should be built on fairness and
the exemptions for banks must end so that “hundreds of millions in tax
can be collected”.
But department sources say the minister won’t reinstate the tax for
banks.
A source added: “This report examines the pros and cons of the treatment of
[bank] losses. The chances are, he won’t make changes.”
Meanwhile, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said the budget will provide
further tax relief for middle-income earners but must ensure that the
public finances are ready for any “economic turmoil” in the years ahead.
Last year, Bank of Ireland, AIB, and PTSB made combined profits of
€2.5bn. However, they paid no tax. In 2015, the Government changed
the rules allowing banks to defer taxes for up to 20 years.
While the report was scheduled to be completed in June, the scope was
extended so officials could examine scrapping tax exemptions for all
corporate entities as well as the use of a sunset clause.
The department is also conscious that any tax increases for State-
owned banks, particularly AIB, could affect their share prices.
“The taxpayer has a huge interest here already,” said the department
source.
Department tax strategy group papers for Budget 2019, released earlier
this month, show there is little appetite to scrap exemptions for the
banks.
One paper noted the bank levy yields €150m annually and was
introduced “in part to recognise the fact that many banks would not
pay” tax for many years.
The paper noted Mr Donohoe views the “bank levy as the appropriate
method of ensuring the banks contribute to the exchequer”.
The report on bank taxes is expected to say that the provision of relief
for such losses is a standard feature of Ireland’s tax code and that of all
other countries in the OECD. It will also examine how other
governments do or do not allow bank losses to be carried over.
The latest Revenue figures, for 2016, show that trading losses carried
forward in all sectors amounted to some €214bn. Over half of this was
in the financial and insurance sectors.
Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty wants a 25% cap on the carrying forward of
losses and a 10-year limit to ensure banks pay a fair share.
The party maintains that the tax system should be built on fairness and
the exemptions for banks must end so that “hundreds of millions in tax
can be collected”.
But department sources say the minister won’t reinstate the tax for
banks.
A source added: “This report examines the pros and cons of the treatment of
[bank] losses. The chances are, he won’t make changes.”
Meanwhile, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said the budget will provide
further tax relief for middle-income earners but must ensure that the
public finances are ready for any “economic turmoil” in the years ahead.
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exempt-from-tax-
863951.html?fbclid=IwAR3FJNekWvy44LBQfcVutLyJF0TqWt8MM6pH1l75Vqip
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There was uproar at a recent cabinet meeting when one or two ministers mentioned a pre-Christmas
General Election and they were rounded on by a furious majority who are determined to get their free
junket to the four corners of the globe on St Patrick's Day. The really juicy trips are to Brazil,
Argentina, Thailand and Japan and they will be drawing lots soon to see who gets the best free
holidays. The unlucky ones end up in cold Edinburgh where they get laughed at by some lucky
minister posting a photo on their WhatsApp group from Copacabana Beach. There is also great
competition among "advisers", wives, husbands, girlfriends and "partners" to get on board the Paddy's
gravy flight, not to mention the civil servants who are forced to "work" from abroad in places like
sunny South Africa. After seeing his revolting ministers threatening to go on strike unless they got their
all expenses paid trips Taoiseach Varadkar told them "Now that you've twisted my arm ha ha ha ...
we'll put the election off until May 2020, so we can all drown the shamrock in style ha ha ha ha"
It's understood only 15 minutes has been set aside for members
to air their views - but the time is likely to be extended on the
demand of attendees.
"If I look at all that Maria has gone through, it’s clear that
mistakes were made, that things could have been handled and
handled differently and better, I know the different concerns
this has raised with the public, I have to say alongside that, I
worked with Maria for many years now as a TD for Dun
Laoghaire, and she has been an exceptionally hard working and
professional TD as well.
"We have the power to add and subtract but generally it's
members who select the candidates," Mr Varadkar said.
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‘A lot of stick’: Micheál Martin has been criticised within Fianna
Fáil. Photo: Gareth Chaney, Collins
October 31 2019
Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin has said he wants a general election in the
weeks after Easter next year.
Mr Martin told the Irish Independent of his preferred time for the vote - after
April 12, 2020 - on the same day Taoiseach Leo Varadkar firmly ruled out
holding a snap pre-Christmas poll.
Mr Martin's comments signal for the first time he is now prepared to agree to
the Taoiseach's desire for an election next summer.
Mr Varadkar had in recent days come under extraordinary pressure from Fine
Gael ministers and TDs to hold an election next month in order to capitalise
on the pause in the Brexit process and the Votegate affair.
But he firmly ruled it out in a meeting with Fine Gael ministers yesterday
morning.
Mr Varadkar is understood to have left zero wiggle room for an election this
year with his comments to ministers. This was despite telling them in the pre-
Cabinet meeting that the vast majority of Fine Gael colleagues who had
contacted him in recent days favoured an election this side of Christmas.
Mr Varadkar later told a press conference: "I don't think it's the right thing for
the country, not with the ongoing uncertainty around Brexit."
Speaking to this newspaper last night, Mr Martin said: "I think Easter always
figured in my head as being a benchmark for the Dáil and April 12 is a natural
break."
With Mr Varadkar favouring May 2020, the two leaders could now seek to
broker an agreed date for an election next year in the coming weeks.
"Now Brexit has gone back to January 31, the Dáil isn't back until January 16,
I don't think February is an option. In March you have St Patrick's Day, which
is important to the country," Mr Martin said.
"So Easter is on April 12. My view is the gap between the Taoiseach's preferred
date and my preferred date isn't as wide as they are trying to present. So you
are talking about weeks between the Taoiseach and myself in terms of timing."
"It is just too dangerous. And I am very mindful it took 90 days to form a
government the last time and we are in a fragmented electoral and political
system in Ireland and will be after the next general election as well so it could
take equally as long a time to form a government after the next general
election."
Speaking last night, Mr Varadkar said it was not in the country's interests to
have an election while the UK is having its own - the outcome of which is far
from certain.
"I don't think the country needs a caretaker government during that period. It
needs this Government to stay in office and continue to do the work that we've
done to secure an orderly Brexit, prepare for no-deal if that were to occur, and
also ensure that Ireland's interests are defended."
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/martin-looks-for-general-
election-in-weeks-after-easter-38647765.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLiG8Krmc28
“We will be setting carbon budgets for the five-year periods 2021 to 25
and so on, in each of the three following five-year periods, they will be
nailed down, they will be set by Government, on recommendation from
myself and the climate advisory group will be key to that,” he said.
Leo Varadkar
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@LeoVaradkar
“So, there will be a very high level of accountability built into the
Climate Act that we bring to the house and we hope to have the heads
of that bill to the committee before the end of the year.”
October 29 2019
https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/hands-
o...AR3oRq2vFtQAN8cl2YBjzGh5HhP0BPVALzNLAZNk2YNWYOYEqaJQWewSi_s Page 2 of 5
Hands off our cash - move to a cashless society 'would lead to unacceptable fees' - Independent.ie
01/11/2019, 00(10
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‘HANDS OFF OUR CASH ...’
Moving to a cashless society would mainly benefits banks and
card issuers such as Visa and MasterCard, according to European
consumer organisation BEUC.
The Consumers Association of Ireland have said that a cashless
society would negatively affect Irish consumers, denying them
choice and a promoting and maintaining an unacceptable regime
of fees and charges.
https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/hands-off-
our-cash-move-to-a-cashless-society-would-lead-to-
unacceptable-fees-
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ALzNLAZNk2YNWYOYEqaJQWewSi_s
I am not promoting any particular political party and didn't intend on creating a left wing/right wing
debate, this is a bipartisan issue)
I was in emergency accomodation for some time with my family back in 2016, thankfully since then our own
situation has changed but both myself and my wife are very aware of the distress and dispair still out there and the
distant lack of meaningful action from the government.
But, there is one thing that has been really bugging me and it's people who complain about the system yet have
never bothered to vote.
The first fact is this, only 2/3 of the country regularly turn out to vote in Ireland and the second fact is that most of
those who don't vote are working class people like myself and also less likely to be right wing. That is a whole 1/3
of our country which are preventing meaningful change. The Irony of which is that those most affected by the
housing crisis are those who are more likely to not be registered to vote.
In essence, if we want real change in this country we must first mobilise at the voting booth because the
government wont make the changes required because they arn't afraid of those who don't vote.
Imagine the panic in FF/FG in this country if we had a 95% turnout. This is the only way we are going to have
change.
I urge everyone to register to vote and vow to get one other person in their life to register as we have an election
around the corner.
TDs from the north west are among those who have recorded their attendances at
Leinster House for expense purposes but have not taken part in Dail votes.
That’s according to an investigation by RTE which found that some TDs failed to
take part in any votes on almost 50% of days when they recorded their attendance in
Leinster House.
TDs must record their attendance in Leinster House to claim expenses under the
Travel and Accommodation Allowance Scheme.
The scheme costs taxpayers almost three million euro per year.
Expenses are based on the distance a TD has to travel from their residence to Leinster
House.
The allowance is given to TDs on the basis that they attend Leinster House on at least
120 days per year.
The TDs use an electronic fob system on just one occasion daily to record their
attendance
RTE Investigates looked at the total number of days between March 2016 and July
2019 when TDs recorded their attendance but did not attend any votes.
It also looked at the expenses they claimed between March 2016 and the end of 2018.
Among the TDs who signed in and missed votes on a HIGHER than average number
of days were Sligo/Leitrim TD Marc MacSharry who claimed €86,672 and did not
vote on 34 days.
Donegal TD Charlie McConalogue claimed €89,228 and did not vote on 33 days.
Donegal Independent Deputy Thomas Pringle claimed €87,660 and missed votes on
26 days.
RTE also looked at the TDs who signed in and missed votes on a SMALLER than
average number of days.
These included Sligo/Leitrim TD Eamon Scanlon who claimed €86,341 and missed
votes on 21 days; Donegal Sinn Fein Pearse Doherty, €90,493 and missed votes on 16
days; Sligo/Leitrim Sinn Fein TD Martin Kenny who claimed €85,388 and missed
votes on 15 days; and Sligo/Leitrim Fine Gael TD Tony McLoughlin who claimed
€87,294 and missed votes on five days.
In response, TDs have said they may be at other meetings in Leinster House or may
have ‘pairing’ arrangements with Dail colleagues in relation to absences for voting.
https://www.oceanfm.ie/2019/10/31/tds-from-nw-among-those-
not-voting-despite-clocking-
in/?fbclid=IwAR3_lR1rZTDVyvJ_d6o_4Z5XWC5KVMhYW-
GjwQPz_sodSVV5wHOnS5l0H9U
Ben Gilroy.
Start Mortgages has secured a temporary High Court injunction
preventing anti-eviction activist Ben Gilroy from arresting any of its
employees or agents.
The injunctions apply to any other person who has knowledge of the
orders, as well as Mr Gilroy.
At the High Court today counsel for Start Garrett Flynn Bl said Start
rejects all the fraud allegations made against it by the defendant. He
said Mr Gilroy states in the video that he intends to "get a posse
together," and "start arresting these people in a systemic way," over the
coming weeks.
Counsel said his client was concerned as the names of current and
former employees of the company have been posted on social media.
Start claims it is owed €512,000 by Mr Gilroy and his wife, and that the
last repayment made by them was in February 2011.
Start also claims that Mr Gilroy attended at its offices last May, and
seized the original mortgage and title documents it held on his home.
Start also claims that Mr Gilroy is purporting to give legal advice on the
videos, which he is not entitled to do.
The Judge said she was satisfied to make the orders sought.
The Judge noted from documents put before the Court that Mr Gilroy
has acknowledged that the Director of Public Prosecutions has stated
that there is no case in fraud against Start in respect of the matters he
complains about.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/high-court-ruling-
temporarily-prevents-ben-gilroy-from-arresting-start-mortgages-employees-
960995.html
Fionnán Sheahan: 'Do-
nothing Dáil created vote
saga in a plague on all in
House'
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Barry Cowen. Photo: Gareth Chaney, Collins
Fionnán Sheahan
October 22 2019
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created-vote-saga-in-a-plague-on-all-in-house-38618842.html
John Downing: 'Twenty
years of 'paper' plans
have seen so many
pensioners die in poverty
as they await reform
pledges'
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New llan: Social Protection Minister, Regina Doherty.
John Downing
November 1 2019
The irony of it all - on so many levels - was not lost on the late, great Séamus Brennan. One of the
gentlemen of Irish politics was talking to this writer in that strange ministerial office on top of the one-
time controversial building called "Bus Áras".
The ministerial office has great views across the south side of the River Liffey,
deep into the Dublin mountains.
Mr Brennan gleefully recalled it was in this office that his old foe, Charlie
Haughey, had back in 1979 as health and welfare minister, plotted to become
Taoiseach by ousting Jack Lynch. The ministerial job had allowed Mr
Haughey to help so many Fianna Fáil backbench TDs with the political
constituency currency that was medical cards and welfare payments.
We still recall Charlie won the big prize and Séamie lost out,
being obliged to take a longer route in his considerable
political career. And back in October 2004, when this writer
met Mr Brennan atop Bus Áras, he was making the best of
being moved in a canny government reshuffle by then
Taoiseach Bertie Ahern, from the more prestigious Transport
Department to being suddenly minding "poor people" as the
Social Welfare minister.
You can argue the details up hill and down dale, but it sounded
like decisions are being made here at long last. The scheme is
designed to help the two-thirds of private sector workers who
have no pension provision beyond the State's old-age pension.
But it's much the same idea, addressing the problem of 20-
something people entering the workplace, assuming
The jury is out on how effective the plan might be. There is a
small minority of independent people who assess pension in
this world and who understand the arcane world of
superannuation. But we seriously depend on them to be fair
and honest.
Postponement of plans to
house 13 female asylum
seekers due to ongoing
protests 'extremely
concerning'
November 1 2019
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The women were due to be accommodated in Achill House Hotel
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Focus Ireland director of advocacy Mike Allen said the figures show
that the problem “cannot be solved unless the Government moves to
stop families being evicted from their homes by landlords who wish to
sell up”.
Homes.less politics
Wanker
I am going to post this once a week. This is something we should not forget.
O’Devaney Lands Giveaway Scam – The Madness Continues……………..
A new proposal from Dublin City Council management to giveaway the O’Devaney lands
will be on the agenda of the council meeting on Monday (see photo below).
The Government and Dublin City Council officials are so determined for developers to
make vast profits off the public lands in O’Devaney Gardens that they are willing to buy
back a percentage of the houses at huge cost and allow an Approved Housing Body to
manage them as a cost rental scheme. As can be seen from the proposal council
management will ‘request’ the developer to sell an unknown percentage of the units to an
Approved Housing Body at full market value!!
Instead of building public housing on public lands the council already owns they will allow
a developer to maximise profits before buying back some houses with public money. It
will come as no surprise that Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and the Labour Party will support the
developers making huge profits from public lands but we should expect more from the
Social Democrats and the Greens given their opposition to the original giveaway.
Hopefully both will continue to oppose the giveaway.
The vote on Monday will show who supports the developers and wealthy investors and
who supports those in emergency homeless accommodation, those on the housing list,
people paying exorbitant rents and the local community hoping to be able to afford to live
in their own area.
If the Government pays top price to the developer for the houses the rents for the cost
rental will be out of reach for most people and the 20% affordable purchase continues to
be unaffordable for the majority of people. Ordinary people will be priced out of their own
areas and the gentrification of the area will continue.
The Retention of Records Bill will see records from the Commission to
Inquire into Child Abuse (CICA), Residential Institutions Redress Board,
and Residential Institutions Redress Review Committee placed in the
National Archives and sealed for a minimum of 75 years.
The legislation had been due in Committee State in the coming weeks
but this has now been deferred to allow the Oireachtas education
committee to further scrutinise the legislation and seek the views of
survivors and campaigners. This will take place on November 14.
Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
The records of the survivors belong to them and the decision on what to do with
them should be theirs alone. In my opinion, they should be in the public arena in
places like schools and libraries with the consent of the survivors
"I believe the sentence: 'Locked up as children and now their story,
which must have been very hard for them to revisit, are being locked up
again' well it says it all," he said.
In May, the Irish Examiner also revealed that the NAI advised the
Department of Education in April of last year that there was no need for
the legislation.
It said that records from the CICA are already covered by the National
Archives Act, and that the latter two bodies could be brought under its
remit by simply adding them to the schedule of the act. This would
mean the records would be open to inspection after 30 years, subject to
some exemptions.
Right of Place/Second Chance has been receiving funding from the HSE
and other organisations since 1999.
Last year it was allocated €337,500 by the HSE, while since 2002 it has
received more than €2.2m.
Members of the group raised concerns about how the funds were being
managed in August and in October the HSE sought information from
the group’s founder, Noel C Barry, as to the organisation’s structure and
governance arrangements
A new committee has been formed within the group which is trying to
take over from Mr Barry.
However, the founder has refused to accept this group and has
obtained a High Court injunction preventing them from entering the
Glanmire Road premises.
Responding to the allegations last night, Mr Barry said he was “utterly
and totally shocked by the allegations”.
“Every cent that came into this building was audited and it went to the
Comptroller and Auditor. The audits are here. My view is there is a
power struggle going on. I was due to stand down anyway. I told the
board that I wanted to stand down, that I had done 10 years,” he said.
Mr Barry said: “Another person wanted to take over here and I thought
this cannot happen it must be done democratically.
“I had planned calling an EGM next month so the survivors would name
the person to take over and that’s the way it should be done,” he
added.
Mr Barry said the day the survivors told him to go he would go — “it’s
as simple as that”.
A statement from the HSE read: “The HSE has a service agreement with
Right of Place/Second Chance for a number of years. Funding for this
service agreement is negotiated and allocated on a yearly basis. Prior
to proceeding with funding arrangements for 2010, the HSE has
requested details of the organisation’s structure and governance
arrangements as per the requirements of the service agreement. The
HSE is currently awaiting this information.”
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hse-withholds-funds-
for-abuse-survivor-group-439288.html
This happened today (01/11) in the Luas at the red line (near to The Silver Penny Pub). This guy was
being racist and saying terrible things before I started recording, some things like "I'm going to break
your jaw" and some other things about slavery. The black guy was obviously unconfortable with the
situation, some other people were uncorfortable as well but they did nothing! We should help each
other, protect each other, but what I saw was a bunch of people that was scared of the bully or was
agreeing with his mean speech. There's no difference between white, black, yellow, we are all humans.
After I stopped recording the guy started asking if I was going to leave the train with him because he
was going to punch me/hit me, threatening me. I always had in mind that Europe was like heaven,
where people respect each other, where there's space for everyone, but what I saw today was
something completely different. Lets make this Dubliner Bully famous hoping that he realizes that what
he did or have been doing is wrong and shouldn't be accepted as normal. "Brave man"
https://www.facebook.com/enzo.souza.5/videos/pcb.3163404333735055/316
3393947069427/?type=3&theater
And just like clockwork the political classes come out and supported by the media to
apportion blame for the housing crisis on those with the least power to affect it...
Here's a quote from my own post yesterday describing this very phenomenon and why
the media/political classes keep pushing it...
"If it's homelessness then they single out immigrants and single mothers for shame and
blame the remaining of the homeless for either being alcoholics or drug users instead of
the reality that more and more homeless are in this situation because of rising rents and
privatisation policies that have destroyed social housing provision but they NEVER EVER EVER
focus on the real cause of homelessness... Fine Gael/Fianna Fail."
Fine Gael/Fianna Fail and their proxies in the media do this relentlessly to sow divisions so that
the people keep attacking each other instead of going after the people responsible...
They are encouraging the Middle Classes to side with the rich against the poor because they know
that if you fool the Middle Class into thinking they are not the next target of the wealth classes
then they can maintain power over everyone...
Michael Healy-Rae
logged into Dáil on day he
was in Kerry for a funeral
‘I can’t give any more’: Independent TD Michael Healy-Rae says
he “gives 150pc every day” to politics. Photo: Tom Burke
November 1 2019
Michael Healy-Rae logged into Dáil on day he was in Kerry for a
funeral
While Mr Juncker was telling TDs "Ireland will come first" in the
Brexit negotiations, the Irish Independent understands Mr
Healy-Rae was a five-hour drive away in Co Kerry.
both days.
It's understood he attended a funeral in Sneem on the same
morning as the European Commission president
Some 140 out of 158 TDs were in the Dáil chamber to hear the
EU's chief Brexit negotiator's address at 11am on a Thursday.
"I can't give any more than I'm doing and that's it. That's the
only comment I'll give." He added that reporters "can go this
way and that way" looking to criticise him but "I do not spare
myself".
"They can see exactly what it's like. They can stick with me
and see for themselves.
"Maybe when they'd have one day put down with me, they
wouldn't be anxious to come the second day," Mr Healy-Rae
said.
Who else can be proven to have been "fobbed" in to the dail while actually being
somewhere else entirely!!
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dil-on-day-he-was-in-kerry-for-a-funeral-
38650938.html?fbclid=IwAR0ocmMtF8dk3LW_u0sn6XMHGquV-
Yj0Ko1hLHH9hnBOHzYwvIYB8IU2-aw
Sympathy for 'Swing-gate'
TD but support is in short
supply'
Compensation claim saga
1
Jump to it: Taoiseach Leo Varadkar at the autumn display in the
Botanic Gardens, Dublin. Photo: Brian Lawless/PA
If it wasn't for 'Swing-gate', Maria Bailey would be the TD overseeing the
investigation into Votegate.
The Dún Laoghaire TD has sought desperately to redeem herself in the eyes of
her colleagues and the public, but the night of July 10, 2015, continues to
haunt her.
The events of that evening in The Dean hotel have also plagued Fine Gael - but
it is now in a position to try to purge the problem.
There are few stories in recent political times that have resonated so heavily
with the public.
Last week, as Fianna Fáil was engulfed in scandal over TDs voting for absent
colleagues, their spokespeople repeatedly responded to Fine Gael lectures by
randomly shouting "Maria Bailey".
The plotline was simple: A politician goes on a night out to an upmarket hotel.
She falls off an ornamental swing and is hurt. The next day she requires
medical treatment but ultimately gets back on her feet.
For most people, it would amount to one of those funny 'remember the time'
stories you tell every time you meet up with the group of friends who
witnessed the silliness.
But Ms Bailey didn't dust herself down and laugh it off. She engaged the
services of Madigan solicitors, a firm where her political colleague and then
good friend Josepha Madigan worked.
'Going legal' kick-started a plot twist which neither women could ever have
predicted. Fast-forward four years to May 20 - four days before the local
elections - when the Irish Independent revealed details of the first-term TD's
compensation claim.
Over the course of a week, our investigation left her case looking very weak.
Nobody denies she was hurt. Medics at the private Beacon Hospital certified
that she suffered soft-tissue injuries, contusions and concussion. She went on
to receive dental treatment and required intense physiotherapy.
But it was the circumstances that turned Ms Bailey into an internet meme and
ultimately a household name.
The backbencher had a bottle of beer in one hand and was "reaching" for a
friend's bottle of wine when she toppled.
Despite her wounds, she managed to appear on television a few days later and
even went to the Longitude music festival. Within three weeks she was back
running a 10km race. According to herself the time of 53min 56sec was not
impressive - but back in the real world it was pretty good, especially given her
injuries.
The TD's packed schedule didn't sit comfortably with the claims made in court
papers, including that she couldn't run "at all" for three months after the fall.
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar's office was flooded with hundreds of emails from
angry punters, and ministers privately spoke of their horror at the
reputational damage the controversy did to the party.
But Mr Varadkar decided the public humiliation suffered by his TD was in
itself a punishment. Having hired a senior counsel to confirm Ms Bailey had
"overstated the impact of her injuries", the Taoiseach was one of the few
people to show her compassion.
"It is clear to me that Deputy Bailey made numerous errors of judgment in her
handling of this matter from the outset, during and even after she'd
withdrawn the case," he said.
As a result, Ms Bailey has bravely tried to go back to normal. She attends the
Dáil every week, eats in the Leinster House canteen and walks the corridors
with her head held high.
She hasn't publicly challenged those who have mocked her or held a grudge
against the colleagues who made little effort to protect her from the
onslaught.
But the insurance crisis hasn't abated. Companies are still going out of
business because they can't get cover, and court pay-outs for whiplash and
other injuries have not yet been reset to reasonable levels.
And until the Government manages to get on top of the problem, Maria Bailey
will be the poster girl for it.
With Fine Gael headquarters afraid to make the tough decision, members in
her Dún Laoghaire constituency have spent recent weeks trying to figure out a
way of freeing themselves from the debacle.
One of those was Culture Minister Ms Madigan, who said: "I don't think it's
appropriate for me to comment on Maria Bailey's suitability as a general
election candidate or otherwise."
On a personal level, many in Fine Gael have sympathy for Ms Bailey. But this
is politics and the pendulum doesn't always swing in both directions.
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swinggate-td-but-support-is-in-short-supply-38650951.html
An Post launches mobile data
sharing initiative for the homeless
Tuesday, October 29, 2019
Joe McKeever is somebody who will benefit from a mobile data-sharing
initiative from An Post to keep Ireland's homeless connected.
An Post is donating an initial 18,000GB of data from its mobile network
across 2,000 SIM cards to Dublin Simon Community, Focus Ireland,
Peter McVerry Trust, St Vincent De Paul and Merchants Quay Ireland.
“I have been homeless on and off since I was 15 years old. I was in care
but over the last two years, I have been sofa-surfing in between being
on the street and staying in hostels.
“I had not talked to my father for five years but I saw him last week and he
shook my hand and said he was sorry. I talk to my Ma. I talk to most of my
family. “
Joe has been helped by a key worker at Merchants Quay Ireland and is now working
towards being drug-free. “Addiction is a very bad road to be on and I would give
anything to get off it,” he said.
Joe has a mobile phone and he relies on it to help him find a hostel at night. “I would
be lost without my mobile phone; I would also be very lonely.”
Earlier this year, An Post launched Address Point for people who are homeless or
living in temporary accommodation.
People registering for the service are given an address where the post office is located
but it does not state that it is a post office.
Mr Allen said Address Point had helped homeless people to apply for jobs and engage
in “officialdom”.
An Post is also donating every €19 booklet of 20 Christmas stamps sold to a special
fund that will be shared among the homeless charities.
“I think they (An Post) are one of the leading organisations who are
trying to think through how the services they run can make a social
contribution,” said Mr Allen.
"We have the expertise and the national reach to make a real
difference, she said.
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mobile-data-sharing-initiative-for-the-homeless-960437.html
A woman who feeds more than 300 people a night at a Dublin city soup
kitchen says the current homelessness crisis feels like “social
cleansing”.
It is 8C, and the early visitors are mothers and their children.
Most are wearing their school uniform under zipped up and
tightly pulled winter coats. When the food is beginning to
be brought to the table from waiting nearby cars, some
pushing starts between small girls and boys, the youngest of
whom is around five.
People queue up for hot food at The Lending Hand soup kitchen
(Niall Carson/PA)
“We help them with school stuff, books and uniforms, it’s
nice seeing them getting housed.
“People are really embarrassed, there’s a lot more pride than
acceptance.
“Nowadays, there are so many levels of homelessness. Years ago we would’ve
dealt with more rough sleepers – ‘down-and-outs’, my da would’ve called them.
Nowadays we feed people in their work gear.
People with jobs, hugging and kissing you because you gave them
lunch for the week.
While I’m there, there are many, mostly men, in work clothes, branded
polo shirts and reflective trousers, but there are women too, in clean
clothes and shoes, avoiding eye contact as they come and go quickly
into the night carrying steaming bowls in freezing air.
“We find a lot more men than women – men take their chances on the
street,” Keira adds.
This young girl came with her baby, a tiny baby, and I just burst into tears.
“The hostels, they’re vile, they don’t offer what they’re supposed to
offer. If you have any kind of addiction problem and you’re put into an
emergency hostel – you’ll end up back on it.
“That’s why we have more men using our service, they’re just so beaten
down and fed up with a system that hasn’t worked for them.”
“This young girl came with her baby, a tiny baby, and I just
burst into tears.”
Next to the table at the far side are men in charge of giving
out clothes, gloves, socks, hats, blankets and rucksacks – all
donated from strangers who found Keira and her group on
Facebook.
A small girl, aged around seven, with dark circles under her eyes, pulls
on a pink woolly hat, and someone tells her she looks gorgeous.
The group are not a registered charity, so do not handle money, while
all the food is cooked from donations made to a butcher’s in Northside
Shopping Centre, near where Keira and most of the volunteers are
based in Coolock.
Loaves are handed out when someone asks: “Do you have any butter
for the bread?” A volunteer replies: “I’m not a Mace!”
There’s laughter, and a lot of chat. Keira is pulled away several times to
speak to people who know her by name. Sometimes they’re in tears or
distress.
“When I went back to college, to Trinity, my dole was cut three or four
times.
“The kids are going backwards, they don’t have the skills they need for
life because they’re so secluded in a hotel room, socially they’re going
backwards. Imagine what the next generation is going to be like –
they’re messing up an entire generation because it’s easier than
building houses.”
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kitchen-founder-says-homeless-crisis-like-social-cleansing-960393.html
midst the Hero whistleblower Maurice McCabe scandal.....
This happened!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.rte.ie/.../2018/1031/1007845-noirin-osullivan/
The Perpetrator herself lands a nice little cushty role over at the United
Nations,
A farce.
RTE.IE
Nóirín O'Sullivan appointed to UN role
The Retention of Records Bill will see records from the Commission to
Inquire into Child Abuse (CICA), Residential Institutions Redress Board,
and Residential Institutions Redress Review Committee placed in the
National Archives and sealed for a minimum of 75 years.
The legislation had been due in Committee State in the coming weeks
but this has now been deferred to allow the Oireachtas education
committee to further scrutinise the legislation and seek the views of
survivors and campaigners. This will take place on November 14.
The records of the survivors belong to them and the decision on what to do with
them should be theirs alone. In my opinion, they should be in the public arena in
places like schools and libraries with the consent of the survivors
"I believe the sentence: 'Locked up as children and now their story,
which must have been very hard for them to revisit, are being locked up
again' well it says it all," he said.
In May, the Irish Examiner also revealed that the NAI advised the
Department of Education in April of last year that there was no need for
the legislation.
It said that records from the CICA are already covered by the National
Archives Act, and that the latter two bodies could be brought under its
remit by simply adding them to the schedule of the act. This would
mean the records would be open to inspection after 30 years, subject to
some exemptions.
Right of Place/Second Chance has been receiving funding from the HSE
and other organisations since 1999.
Last year it was allocated €337,500 by the HSE, while since 2002 it has
received more than €2.2m.
Members of the group raised concerns about how the funds were being
managed in August and in October the HSE sought information from
the group’s founder, Noel C Barry, as to the organisation’s structure and
governance arrangements
A new committee has been formed within the group which is trying to
take over from Mr Barry.
However, the founder has refused to accept this group and has
obtained a High Court injunction preventing them from entering the
Glanmire Road premises.
“Every cent that came into this building was audited and it went to the
Comptroller and Auditor. The audits are here. My view is there is a
power struggle going on. I was due to stand down anyway. I told the
board that I wanted to stand down, that I had done 10 years,” he said.
Mr Barry said: “Another person wanted to take over here and I thought
this cannot happen it must be done democratically.
“I had planned calling an EGM next month so the survivors would name
the person to take over and that’s the way it should be done,” he
added.
Mr Barry said the day the survivors told him to go he would go — “it’s
as simple as that”.
A statement from the HSE read: “The HSE has a service agreement with
Right of Place/Second Chance for a number of years. Funding for this
service agreement is negotiated and allocated on a yearly basis. Prior
to proceeding with funding arrangements for 2010, the HSE has
requested details of the organisation’s structure and governance
arrangements as per the requirements of the service agreement. The
HSE is currently awaiting this information.”
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for-abuse-survivor-group-439288.html
LIKE I SAID BEFORE IF I DID THIS IN MY WORK PLACE I
WOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED IN THE SPOT!!!!
The whole lot of those are at it!!!! No wonder the country is in
ruins!!! SHAME ON THEM ALL!!!!
Anyone else feeling
"Fobbed off"
at being
FOBBED OFF? #FG #FF#LABOUR
I’ll wear this flag as a proud Irish man but not the scum that’s
running this country for the people hew died and fought for Ireland
they starved for are rites, what has this country came to money
hungry fucks. We shall stand together as we have had enough.
Ireland stand together!!
This happened today (01/11) in the Luas at the red line (near to The Silver Penny Pub). This guy was
being racist and saying terrible things before I started recording, some things like "I'm going to break
your jaw" and some other things about slavery. The black guy was obviously unconfortable with the
situation, some other people were uncorfortable as well but they did nothing! We should help each
other, protect each other, but what I saw was a bunch of people that was scared of the bully or was
agreeing with his mean speech. There's no difference between white, black, yellow, we are all humans.
After I stopped recording the guy started asking if I was going to leave the train with him because he
was going to punch me/hit me, threatening me. I always had in mind that Europe was like heaven,
where people respect each other, where there's space for everyone, but what I saw today was
something completely different. Lets make this Dubliner Bully famous hoping that he realizes that what
he did or have been doing is wrong and shouldn't be accepted as normal. "Brave man"
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And just like clockwork the political classes come out and supported by the media to
apportion blame for the housing crisis on those with the least power to affect it...
Here's a quote from my own post yesterday describing this very phenomenon and why
the media/political classes keep pushing it...
"If it's homelessness then they single out immigrants and single mothers for shame and
blame the remaining of the homeless for either being alcoholics or drug users instead of
the reality that more and more homeless are in this situation because of rising rents and
privatisation policies that have destroyed social housing provision but they NEVER EVER EVER
focus on the real cause of homelessness... Fine Gael/Fianna Fail."
Fine Gael/Fianna Fail and their proxies in the media do this relentlessly to sow divisions so that
the people keep attacking each other instead of going after the people responsible...
They are encouraging the Middle Classes to side with the rich against the poor because they know
that if you fool the Middle Class into thinking they are not the next target of the wealth classes
then they can maintain power over everyone...
Michael Healy-Rae
logged into Dáil on day he
was in Kerry for a funeral
both days.
It's understood he attended a funeral in Sneem on the same
morning as the European Commission president
Some 140 out of 158 TDs were in the Dáil chamber to hear the
EU's chief Brexit negotiator's address at 11am on a Thursday.
"I can't give any more than I'm doing and that's it. That's the
only comment I'll give." He added that reporters "can go this
way and that way" looking to criticise him but "I do not spare
myself".
"They can see exactly what it's like. They can stick with me
and see for themselves.
"Maybe when they'd have one day put down with me, they
wouldn't be anxious to come the second day," Mr Healy-Rae
said.
Who else can be proven to have been "fobbed" in to the dail while actually being
somewhere else entirely!!
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Ben Gilroy complained his name had been “blackened in the media” because
the order required him not to assault anyone. File photograph: Dara Mac
Dónaill/ The Irish Times
A High Court judge has warned anti-eviction activist Ben
Gilroy he could find himself “behind bars” if he attempts
to arrest any employees or agents of Start Mortgages.
Ms Justice Leonie Reynolds told Mr Gilroy he could end
up being charged with assault and or false imprisonment
if he attempts to follow through with statements in
videos posted on social media about Start, its employees
and lawyers.
In the posts, Mr Gilroy claims Start is involved in a fraud
and he intends to arrest people working for or associated
with Start.
The judge has also referred the posts to the Law Society
of Ireland for investigation, saying she was doing so
because Mr Gilroy was purporting to give legal advice on
the video which he was not entitled to do and she was
concerned “naive” viewers could be misled.
Mr Gilroy denied giving legal advice.
Mr Gilroy is separately contesting an application by Start
for repossession orders in respect of his family home in
Co Meath.
Those proceedings, which relate to alleged default on
repayments on a loan for €310,000 which Start claims it
advanced to Mr Gilroy and his wife in 2006, stand
adjourned before Trim Circuit Court.
Start claims it is owed €512,000 by Mr Gilroy and his
wife and the last repayment made by them was in
February 2011.
At the High Court on Friday, Ms Justice Reynolds
continued injunctions obtained by Start which prevent
Mr Gilroy arresting, restraining or assaulting any of
Start’s current or former officers, agents, lawyers or
employees.
He is also restrained from posting online any
information relating to home addresses or property of
those persons.
‘Blackened’
Mr Gilroy was further restrained from giving any legal
advice and was directed to remove certain posts made by
him by 9pm on Friday.
Mr Gilroy, who represented himself, told the judge he
intended to appeal her ruling.
Protesters have been urged to ‘stand down’ and help provide accommodation
for asylum seekers. Photograph: Conor McKeown
Recent protests calling for an end to the “inhumane”
direct provision system are tainted with “racial
undertones” and are actually about race and difference
“dressed up in human rights language”, refugee support
groups have said.
Speaking following the Department of Justice’s decision
to postpone sending 13 female asylum seekers to Achill
Island this week, Bulelani Mfaco of the Movement of
Asylum Seekers in Ireland (Masi) said protests had
contained “racial undertones”.
“Of course we know direct provision is inhumane,” said
Mr Mfaco. “The problem is we’ve never seen any of those
people protest it before. It’s only when a centre is going
to open in their backyard.”
While communities are justified in their concerns
around resources, protests are increasingly promoting
anti-immigrant messages “dressed up in human rights
language”, said Fiona Finn, head of the Migrant and
Refugee Rights Centre.
Infiltration by alt-right individuals have become
increasingly sophisticated over the past year while the
recent attack on Sinn Féin TD Martin Kenny’s car is yet
another indicator of how right-wing extremism has
taken hold in Ireland, she said. “We thought this was
happening elsewhere in Europe but it’s here in Ireland
now. These are highly organised individuals and they’re
hijacking this debate.”
The protests are having a huge effect on asylum seekers
who are left “traumatised and deeply disturbed”, added
Ms Finn.
Mr Mfaco said the women due to be housed in the Achill
Head Hotel contacted Masi after seeing news reports of
the protests. “The women are anxious now . . . It’s
frightening to be an asylum seeker and Ireland is a new
country for them. Then they read news headlines where
they’re called welfare scroungers.”
Edan McHugh, a member of the Achill Says Welcome
group, said the majority of people on Achill Island are
welcoming and believes had the Government
approached the community from the outset they would
not have experienced opposition.
The Dún Laoghaire TD has sought desperately to redeem herself in the eyes of
her colleagues and the public, but the night of July 10, 2015, continues to
haunt her.
The events of that evening in The Dean hotel have also plagued Fine Gael - but
it is now in a position to try to purge the problem.
There are few stories in recent political times that have resonated so heavily
with the public.
Last week, as Fianna Fáil was engulfed in scandal over TDs voting for absent
colleagues, their spokespeople repeatedly responded to Fine Gael lectures by
randomly shouting "Maria Bailey".
The plotline was simple: A politician goes on a night out to an upmarket hotel.
She falls off an ornamental swing and is hurt. The next day she requires
medical treatment but ultimately gets back on her feet.
For most people, it would amount to one of those funny 'remember the time'
stories you tell every time you meet up with the group of friends who
witnessed the silliness.
But Ms Bailey didn't dust herself down and laugh it off. She engaged the
services of Madigan solicitors, a firm where her political colleague and then
good friend Josepha Madigan worked.
'Going legal' kick-started a plot twist which neither women could ever have
predicted. Fast-forward four years to May 20 - four days before the local
elections - when the Irish Independent revealed details of the first-term TD's
compensation claim.
Over the course of a week, our investigation left her case looking very weak.
Nobody denies she was hurt. Medics at the private Beacon Hospital certified
that she suffered soft-tissue injuries, contusions and concussion. She went on
to receive dental treatment and required intense physiotherapy.
But it was the circumstances that turned Ms Bailey into an internet meme and
ultimately a household name.
The backbencher had a bottle of beer in one hand and was "reaching" for a
friend's bottle of wine when she toppled.
Despite her wounds, she managed to appear on television a few days later and
even went to the Longitude music festival. Within three weeks she was back
running a 10km race. According to herself the time of 53min 56sec was not
impressive - but back in the real world it was pretty good, especially given her
injuries.
The TD's packed schedule didn't sit comfortably with the claims made in court
papers, including that she couldn't run "at all" for three months after the fall.
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar's office was flooded with hundreds of emails from
angry punters, and ministers privately spoke of their horror at the
reputational damage the controversy did to the party.
"It is clear to me that Deputy Bailey made numerous errors of judgment in her
handling of this matter from the outset, during and even after she'd
withdrawn the case," he said.
Mr Varadkar demoted her as chairperson of the Oireachtas Housing
Committee, costing her a salary top-up of €9,500, but left her on the election
ticket.
As a result, Ms Bailey has bravely tried to go back to normal. She attends the
Dáil every week, eats in the Leinster House canteen and walks the corridors
with her head held high.
She hasn't publicly challenged those who have mocked her or held a grudge
against the colleagues who made little effort to protect her from the
onslaught.
But the insurance crisis hasn't abated. Companies are still going out of
business because they can't get cover, and court pay-outs for whiplash and
other injuries have not yet been reset to reasonable levels.
And until the Government manages to get on top of the problem, Maria Bailey
will be the poster girl for it.
With Fine Gael headquarters afraid to make the tough decision, members in
her Dún Laoghaire constituency have spent recent weeks trying to figure out a
way of freeing themselves from the debacle.
One of those was Culture Minister Ms Madigan, who said: "I don't think it's
appropriate for me to comment on Maria Bailey's suitability as a general
election candidate or otherwise."
On a personal level, many in Fine Gael have sympathy for Ms Bailey. But this
is politics and the pendulum doesn't always swing in both directions.
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An Post is donating an initial 18,000GB of data from its mobile network
across 2,000 SIM cards to Dublin Simon Community, Focus Ireland,
Peter McVerry Trust, St Vincent De Paul and Merchants Quay Ireland.
“I have been homeless on and off since I was 15 years old. I was in care
but over the last two years, I have been sofa-surfing in between being
on the street and staying in hostels.
“I had not talked to my father for five years but I saw him last week and he
shook my hand and said he was sorry. I talk to my Ma. I talk to most of my
family. “
Joe has been helped by a key worker at Merchants Quay Ireland and is now working
towards being drug-free. “Addiction is a very bad road to be on and I would give
anything to get off it,” he said.
Joe has a mobile phone and he relies on it to help him find a hostel at night. “I would
be lost without my mobile phone; I would also be very lonely.”
“Finding a home is very time consuming and all the available property is on the web,”
he said.
Earlier this year, An Post launched Address Point for people who are homeless or
living in temporary accommodation.
People registering for the service are given an address where the post office is located
but it does not state that it is a post office.
Mr Allen said Address Point had helped homeless people to apply for jobs and engage
in “officialdom”.
An Post is also donating every €19 booklet of 20 Christmas stamps sold to a special
fund that will be shared among the homeless charities.
“I think they (An Post) are one of the leading organisations who are
trying to think through how the services they run can make a social
contribution,” said Mr Allen.
"We have the expertise and the national reach to make a real
difference, she said.
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mobile-data-sharing-initiative-for-the-homeless-960437.html
A woman who feeds more than 300 people a night at a Dublin city soup
kitchen says the current homelessness crisis feels like “social
cleansing”.
It is 8C, and the early visitors are mothers and their children.
Most are wearing their school uniform under zipped up and
tightly pulled winter coats. When the food is beginning to
be brought to the table from waiting nearby cars, some
pushing starts between small girls and boys, the youngest of
whom is around five.
People queue up for hot food at The Lending Hand soup kitchen
(Niall Carson/PA)
“We help them with school stuff, books and uniforms, it’s
nice seeing them getting housed.
“People are really embarrassed, there’s a lot more pride than
acceptance.
“Nowadays, there are so many levels of homelessness. Years ago we would’ve
dealt with more rough sleepers – ‘down-and-outs’, my da would’ve called them.
Nowadays we feed people in their work gear.
People with jobs, hugging and kissing you because you gave them
lunch for the week.
While I’m there, there are many, mostly men, in work clothes, branded
polo shirts and reflective trousers, but there are women too, in clean
clothes and shoes, avoiding eye contact as they come and go quickly
into the night carrying steaming bowls in freezing air.
“We find a lot more men than women – men take their chances on the
street,” Keira adds.
This young girl came with her baby, a tiny baby, and I just burst into tears.
“The hostels, they’re vile, they don’t offer what they’re supposed to
offer. If you have any kind of addiction problem and you’re put into an
emergency hostel – you’ll end up back on it.
“That’s why we have more men using our service, they’re just so beaten
down and fed up with a system that hasn’t worked for them.”
“This young girl came with her baby, a tiny baby, and I just
burst into tears.”
Next to the table at the far side are men in charge of giving
out clothes, gloves, socks, hats, blankets and rucksacks – all
donated from strangers who found Keira and her group on
Facebook.
A small girl, aged around seven, with dark circles under her eyes, pulls
on a pink woolly hat, and someone tells her she looks gorgeous.
The group are not a registered charity, so do not handle money, while
all the food is cooked from donations made to a butcher’s in Northside
Shopping Centre, near where Keira and most of the volunteers are
based in Coolock.
There’s laughter, and a lot of chat. Keira is pulled away several times to
speak to people who know her by name. Sometimes they’re in tears or
distress.
“When I went back to college, to Trinity, my dole was cut three or four
times.
“The kids are going backwards, they don’t have the skills they need for
life because they’re so secluded in a hotel room, socially they’re going
backwards. Imagine what the next generation is going to be like –
they’re messing up an entire generation because it’s easier than
building houses.”
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/dublin-city-soup-
kitchen-founder-says-homeless-crisis-like-social-cleansing-960393.html
midst the Hero whistleblower Maurice McCabe scandal.....
This happened!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.rte.ie/.../2018/1031/1007845-noirin-osullivan/
The Perpetrator herself lands a nice little cushty role over at the United
Nations,
A farce.
Laughing in our faces.
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TDs from the north west are among those who have recorded their attendances at
Leinster House for expense purposes but have not taken part in Dail votes.
That’s according to an investigation by RTE which found that some TDs failed to
take part in any votes on almost 50% of days when they recorded their attendance in
Leinster House.
TDs must record their attendance in Leinster House to claim expenses under the
Travel and Accommodation Allowance Scheme.
The scheme costs taxpayers almost three million euro per year.
Expenses are based on the distance a TD has to travel from their residence to Leinster
House.
The allowance is given to TDs on the basis that they attend Leinster House on at least
120 days per year.
The TDs use an electronic fob system on just one occasion daily to record their
attendance
RTE Investigates looked at the total number of days between March 2016 and July
2019 when TDs recorded their attendance but did not attend any votes.
It also looked at the expenses they claimed between March 2016 and the end of 2018.
Among the TDs who signed in and missed votes on a HIGHER than average number
of days were Sligo/Leitrim TD Marc MacSharry who claimed €86,672 and did not
vote on 34 days.
Donegal TD Charlie McConalogue claimed €89,228 and did not vote on 33 days.
Donegal Independent Deputy Thomas Pringle claimed €87,660 and missed votes on
26 days.
RTE also looked at the TDs who signed in and missed votes on a SMALLER than
average number of days.
These included Sligo/Leitrim TD Eamon Scanlon who claimed €86,341 and missed
votes on 21 days; Donegal Sinn Fein Pearse Doherty, €90,493 and missed votes on 16
days; Sligo/Leitrim Sinn Fein TD Martin Kenny who claimed €85,388 and missed
votes on 15 days; and Sligo/Leitrim Fine Gael TD Tony McLoughlin who claimed
€87,294 and missed votes on five days.
In response, TDs have said they may be at other meetings in Leinster House or may
have ‘pairing’ arrangements with Dail colleagues in relation to absences for voting.
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Number of homeless
children in State reaches
highest ever level
Two people a day became homeless last month on
average
Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 16:24
Jack Power, Vivienne Clarke
The official monthly figures do not include rough sleepers and do not show the
true extent of the homeless crisis, according to a spokesman for Simon
Communities. Photograph: Paulo Nunes dos Santos/New York Times
The number of homeless people in the State continues to
increase as the latest official figures show 10,397 people
are currently living in emergency accommodation.
The figures show an increase of 59 people last month
compared to statistics from August, an average increase
of around two people every day.
Some 3,873 children are now living without a home in
Ireland, according to the Department of Housing
homeless statistics for September.
This is the highest ever number of children in emergency
accommodation to date and surpasses a previous peak of
3,867 children in July 2018.
The number of adults recorded as homeless also
increased slightly up to 6,524 in September. There were
4,370 adults and 2,872 children homeless in Dublin.
There are 148 people living in emergency
accommodation who are 65 years of age or older, the
figures show.
Commenting on the figures Minister for Housing
Eoghan Murphy said the number of people living in
emergency accommodation – such as hotel or bed and
breakfast rooms – “continues to be a huge problem.”
Mr Murphy said the issue would continue to worsen
until housing supply meets demand and “until that
happens we will have a problem,” he told RTÉ News at
One.
The Government had introduced rental reforms and was
increasing and expanding wrap-around supports in
homeless family hubs, he said. “Rents are too high but
we are increasing supports, which is showing results,” he
said.
Wayne Stanley, spokesman for homeless charity Simon
Communities, said the Government must address the
lack of social and affordable housing as the root of the
problem.
The official monthly figures did not show the true extent
of the homeless crisis across the country, he said.
“They do not include rough sleepers and those in squats,
people in direct provision and women’s shelters, and the
‘hidden homeless’ who have no home of their own,” Mr
Stanley said.