Relay Setting Calculation Sheet
Relay Setting Calculation Sheet
Revision Status:
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0 ADG 10/15/2018 ADG 10/15/2018 SKV 10/15/2018
1 ADG 12/14/2018 ADG 12/14/2018 SKV 12/14/2018
2 TSP 04/02/2019 TSP 04/02/2019 SKV 04/02/2019
3 TSP 4/12/2019 TSP 4/12/2019 SKV 4/12/2019
Relay Setting and Relay Co-ordination Calculations Prepared BY Checked By
Customer INDIAN OIL CORPORATION LIMITED TSP SKV
Project LPG BOTTLING PLANT AT GORAKHPUR, UTTAR PRADESH Rev 3
Consultant ORIENTAL NICCO PROJECTS PRIVATE LIMITED - KOLKATA Date 4/12/2019
TABLE OF CONTENTS Page no.
1 Introduction ...1
2 Objectives ...1
8 Relay co-ordination setting detail - S/C, O/L and TOL of O/G Feeders ...11
1. Introduction
The purpose of this protection relay co-ordination setting study is to analyze and give the functional settings of the
protection relays necessary for the operation of the protection system and for selective clearance of faults for "LPG
BOTTLING PLANT AT GORAKHPUR"
2. Objectives:
The basic design objectives of protective scheme are to:
1. Maintain dynamic stability.
2. Prevent or minimize equipment damage.
3. Minimize the equipment outage time.
4. Minimize the system outage area.
5. Minimize system voltage disturbances.
3. Reference documents:
1. Overall Single Line Power Distribution Diagram C306/E00/A1-01
2. GA/ GTP Distribution Transformer - 1.6 MVA, 11kV/0.433kV 637347-E-VE-002
3. GA, Datasheet, BOM & Scheme for PMCC 637347-E-VE-008
4. GA, Datasheet, BOM & Scheme for 11kV ICOG Panel 637347-E-VE-006
5. HT & LT Power cable schedule 637347-E-DE-001
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Relay Setting and Relay Co-ordination Calculations Prepared BY Checked By
Customer INDIAN OIL CORPORATION LIMITED TSP SKV
Project LPG BOTTLING PLANT AT GORAKHPUR, UTTAR PRADESH Rev 3
Consultant ORIENTAL NICCO PROJECTS PRIVATE LIMITED - KOLKATA Date 4/12/2019
Relay characteristics shall be selected to give optimal performance in terms of sensitivity and rapidity of fault clearance. This has resulted in the use of
inverse time schemes supplemented by instantaneous/definite time schemes for phase over current protection and earth fault protection of solidly
earthed systems; and definite time schemes for earth fault protection of resistance earthed systems.
Over-currents in a power distribution system can occur as a result of both normal (motor starting, transformer inrush, etc.) and abnormal (ground
fault, line-to-line fault, etc.) conditions. In either case, the basic purpose of current-sensing protective devices is to detect the abnormal over-current
with proper coordination, to operate selectively and to protect equipment properly by minimizing the outage of the remainder of the system.
Relay operating characteristics and their setting must be carefully coordinated in order to achieve selectivity. The aim is to switch off only the fault
component and to leave the rest of the power system in service in order to minimize supply interruptions and to ensure stability. Protection should be
as sensitive as possible to detect faults at the lowest possible current level of both phase and ground faults. However, it should remain stable under all
permissible load, overload and through-fault conditions.
Primary Protection: The protective system, which is normally expected to operate in response to a fault in the protected zone.
Back-Up Protection: A protective system intended to supplement the main protection in case primary protection fails to operate, or to deal with faults
in those parts of the power system that are not included in the operating zones of the main protection.
The settings for relays are proposed by modeling the network from 415 V to 11 kV along with all phase fault and earth fault protection relays in ETAP
18.0
b. The impedance in ohms, percent or per unit of all power transformers, rotating machines and feeder circuits, if any.
c. The maximum and minimum values of short circuit currents that are expected to flow through each protective device.
Co-ordination Settings & Criteria
There are two basic adjustable settings on all inverse time relays; one is the current setting usually known as the Plug Setting Multiplier (PSM) and the
other is Time Multiplier Setting (TMS).
Primary current Primary current
PSM = =
primary setting current relay current setting x CT Ratio
Top
TMS =
Tm
Where,
Top = the required time of operation
Tm = the time operation at TMS=1.0 for maximum fault current
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Project LPG BOTTLING PLANT AT GORAKHPUR, UTTAR PRADESH Rev 3
Consultant ORIENTAL NICCO PROJECTS PRIVATE LIMITED - KOLKATA Date 4/12/2019
(b)The grading time comprises of the following component times as recommended in Table4-1
Table 4-1 Composition of Time discrimination between relays Ref IEEE-242, Table 15-2
Coordination Time Interval (CTI)
Components Electromechanical Static
Circuit breaker operating time 0.08 s 0.08 s
Relay over travel 0.10 s 0.00 s
Relay tolerance and setting errors 0.12 s 0.12 s
Total CTI 0.30 s 0.20 s
Table 4-2 Minimum CTI’sa for different protection equipments Ref IEEE-242, Table 15-3
Upstream
The minimum-grading interval between definite time and inverse time relays shall be set at 0.2s for Numerical and 0.3s for
Electromechanical.
Banded characteristic curves, such as for fuses and low-voltage circuit breakers, can be easily coordinated with one another by simply allowing
clearance between the characteristics plotted on the coordination curve. Some manufacturers recommend a safety factor between the minimum melt
curve of the upstream fuse and the total clearing curve of the downstream fuse to avoid partial melting of the upstream fuse. In any case, the
characteristic curves should not overlap.
4.1.3 Step Down Transformers
(a) Phase over current protection on the HV and LV sides of step-down transformers shall be set to pick up between 105%-110% of the transformer
rated current in order to provide a degree of overload protection. However the setting can be increased (upto 125%) if required to achieve proper
grading time with the downstream protections.
(b) The high-set instantaneous pickup setting on the HV side of step down transformers should be set as the higher of the following current values:
(c) The Pickup value for Instantaneous relay for short length faults at transformer primary should be set above the maximum of either primary
reflected secondary bus fault current or magnetizing inrush (usually 8-12 times the rated current) of the transformers . As per IEEE Std (C37.91-2000),
setting it at 150% of maximum current (maximum of either primary reflected secondary fault current or magnetizing inrush current) provides
sufficient margin for relays subject to transient overreach.
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Project LPG BOTTLING PLANT AT GORAKHPUR, UTTAR PRADESH Rev 3
Consultant ORIENTAL NICCO PROJECTS PRIVATE LIMITED - KOLKATA Date 4/12/2019
(a) Minimum available settings are considered as short circuit setting for outgoing power feeders.
(b) Rated current of breaker is selected as overload setting for outgoing power feeders.
(c) Approx 95% of rated current is considered as thermal overload setting, otherwise available minimum setting is selected.
(d) IE2 motors are considered for FLC data
(b) After calculating the short circuit currents at different buses, herein above, the settings of the relays are worked out starting from the load end up-to
upstream towards the source.
(c) For all the cases, discrimination margin for coordination is checked for the maximum faults current values as per the electrical system study report.
It is noted that once achieved for maximum fault condition, proper coordination can be assured for the lower values of fault currents.
(d) The settings of either side relays of feeders are kept identical.
(e) MVAsc level at incomer is considered as 500MVAsc.
(f) Outgoing feeders of LT PMCC considered as LUMP load of 1280kVA (80% of transformer rating).
(g) Tripping time for LT outgoing breakers (MCCB) are considered as 20mS and accordingly upstream relays are coordinated.
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Doc/Drg Title Relay Setting and Relay Co-ordination Calculations
Doc/Drg No. 637347-E-BE-001 Rev 3
Feeder Description: 5: Incomer-1 of PMCC from Transformer
Relay Make: Alstom Model: MiCOM P127
5.2.0 CT Details
a) Primary Current In : 2500 A
b) Secondary current : 1A
Current setting at Fault current : Fault current /(CT Pri. Ratio * PS)
32589/(2500*0.9349)
Plug Setting Multiplier (PSM) : 13.9430
b) Selected PSM 13.9430 3
TMS Required for desired operating time of 0.14 Sec : Desired Operating time*((selected PSM)^2-1)/80
0.14*(13.94^2-1)/80
TMS Required for desired operating time of 0.14 Sec : 0.338
3
c) Selected TMS : 0.338
Current setting at Fault current : Fault current /(CT Pri. Ratio * PS)
38387/(2500*0.1)
Plug Setting Multiplier (PSM) : 153.548
c) Selected PSM 20
(since the operating time of relay for greater than 20 times of set current, is not going to increase as per IDMT curve
formula. So PSM has been limited to 20 times of set current in order to get proper TMS)
TMS Required for desired operating time of 0.14 Sec : Desired Operating time*((selected PSM)^1-1)/13.5
0.14*(20^1-1)/13.5
TMS Required for desired operating time of 0.14 Sec : 0.197
d) Selected TMS : 0.197
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Doc/Drg No. 637347-E-BE-001 Rev 3
Feeder Description: 5: Incomer-1 of PMCC from Transformer
Relay Make: Alstom Model: MiCOM P127
Current setting at Fault current : Fault current /(CT Pri. Ratio * PS)
38387/(2500*0.1)
Plug Setting Multiplier (PSM) : 153.548
c) Selected PSM 20 3
(since the operating time of relay for greater than 20 times of set current, is not going to increase as per relay manual data
PT Primary : 433 V
PT Secondary : 110 V
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Doc/Drg No. 637347-E-BE-001 Rev 3
Feeder Description: 5: Incomer-1 of PMCC from Transformer
Relay Make: Alstom Model: MiCOM P127
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Doc/Drg No. 637347-E-BE-001 Rev 3
Feeder Description: 6: 11kV HT Panel O/G to LT Transformer
Relay Make: ABB Model: REJ601
6.2.0 CT Details
a) Primary Current In : 100 A
b) Secondary current : 1A
Current setting at Fault current : Fault current /(CT Pri. Ratio * PS)
22903/(100*0.9658)
Plug Setting Multiplier (PSM) : 237.1456
b) Selected PSM : 20
(since the operating time of relay for greater than 20 times of set current, is not going to increase as per IDMT curve
formula. So we limit PSM to 20 times of set current in order to get proper TMS)
TMS Required for desired operating time of 0.34 Sec : Desired Operating time*((selected PSM)^2-1)/80
0.34*(20^2-1)/80
TMS Required for desired operating time of 0.34 Sec : 1.696
c) Selected TMS : 1.600
Current setting at Fault current : Fault current /(CT Pri. Ratio * PS)
23077/(100*0.5)
Plug Setting Multiplier (PSM) : 461.54
c) Selected PSM 20
(since the operating time of relay for greater than 20 times of set current, is not going to increase as per IDMT curve
formula. So PSM has been limited to 20 times of set current in order to get proper TMS)
TMS Required for desired operating time of 0.1 Sec : Desired Operating time*((selected PSM)^1-1)/13.5
0.1*(20^1-1)/13.5
TMS Required for desired operating time of 0.1 Sec : 0.141
d) Selected TMS : 0.141
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Doc/Drg Title Relay Setting and Relay Co-ordination Calculations
Doc/Drg No. 637347-E-BE-001 Rev 3
Feeder Description: 6: 11kV HT Panel O/G to LT Transformer
Relay Make: ABB Model: REJ601
As no discriminative Margin
b) Total operating time required is : 0.07 sec
is required
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Doc/Drg No. 637347-E-BE-001 Rev 3
Feeder Description: 7: 1600KVA Transformer REF Protection
Relay Make: AREVA Model: CAG14
7.4.0 Calculation
7.4.1 Full load current IFL : ( MVA X 10^6) / (√3 X 415)
2225.99 Amp
7.4.4 Max. through fault current reflected CT sec of LV side IFS : IF / CTR
13.74 Amp
7.4.6 Due to Design limitation of CT manufacturer RCT : 9Ω (as per PMCC Panel BOM)
So, for CLPS CTs, magnetizing current, Imag < = ( ( 0.25 X IFL) / CTR – IR ) / No. of CT in parallel
<= 30.65 mAmp
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Doc/Drg No. 637347-E-BE-001 Rev 3
Feeder Description: S/C, O/L, and TOL of Outgoing Feeders
Relay Make:
3 Line Current
Phase Current =
1.732
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MAIN SINGLE LINE DIAGRAM
SEB
500 MVAsc
Cable1
250 m
1-3/C 150 AL
ICOG Panel 0.265+j0.094 ohms/1km
11 kV
±
CT3 R ICOG_Outgoing
100/1
CB1
11 kV 800 A
Cable2
30 m
1-3/C 150 AL
0.265+j0.094 ohms/1km
Bus4
11 kV
Main Trafo
11/0.433 kV
1.6 MVA
Dyn11
6.48 %Z
CT2 ±
MLTP_Incomer_1
R
2500/1
CB2
0.415 kV
2500 A
MLTP
0.415 kV
Lump1
1280 kVA
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SLD- THREE PHASE FAULT
SEB
500 MVAsc
26.243
Cable1
23.271
ICOG Panel
0.261 11 kV
±
Cable2
Bus4 22.903
11 kV
0.261
Main Trafo
1.6 MVA
32.589
MLTP
8.244 0.415 kV
Lump1
1280 kVA
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SLD- GROUND FAULT
SEB
500 MVAsc
26.409
Cable1
23.444
ICOG Panel
0 11 kV
±
Cable2
Bus4 23.076
11 kV
0
Main Trafo
1.6 MVA
38.387
MLTP
0 0.415 kV
Lump1
1280 kVA
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Amps X 100 Bus4 (Nom. kV=11, Plot Ref. kV=11)
.5 1 3 5 10 30 50 100 300 500 1K 3K 5K 10K
1K 1K
MLTP_Incomer_1 - P
OC1
500 500
ALSTOM
300
P127 300
Main Trafo CT Ratio 2500:1
IEC - Extremely Inverse
FLA - Other 65
Pickup = 0.935 (0.1 - 25 xCT Sec)
2133.396 Amps Time Dial = 0.338
100 100
3x = 3.38 s, 5x = 1.13 s, 8x = 0.429 s
Inst = 6.518 (0.5 - 40 xCT Sec)
50
Time Delay = 0.05 s 50
ICOG_Outgoing - P
30 OC1 30
ABB
REJ601
CT Ratio 100:1
10 IEC Extremely Inverse 10
Pickup = 0.966 (0.1 - 2.5 xCT Sec)
Time Dial = 1.6
5 5
Seconds
Seconds
3x = 16 s, 5x = 5.33 s, 8x = 2.03 s
Inst = 18.39 (0.5 - 25 xCT Sec)
3 Time Delay = 0.25 s 3
1 Main Trafo 1
1.6 MVA (Secondary) 6.48 %Z
Delta-Wye Solid Grd
.5 .5
.3 .3
Main Trafo
.1 Inrush .1
Multiplier = 12 xFLA
(25600.75 Amps @ 0.433 kV)
.05 .05
Duration = 5 Cycles
.03 .03
MLTP_Incomer_1 - 3P ICOG_Outgoing - 3P
.01 .01
.5 1 3 5 10 30 50 100 300 500 1K 3K 5K 10K
Amps X 100 Bus4 (Nom. kV=11, Plot Ref. kV=11) ETAP Star 18.0.0C
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Amps X 10 ICOG Panel (Nom. kV=11, Plot Ref. kV=11)
.5 1 3 5 10 30 50 100 300 500 1K 3K 5K 10K
1K 1K
500 500
300 300
100 100
MLTP_Incomer_1 - G
OC1
50 50
ALSTOM
30 P127 30
CT Ratio 2500:1
IEC - Very Inverse
Pickup = 0.1 (0.1 - 25 xCT Sec)
Time Dial = 0.197
10 10
3x = 1.33 s, 5x = 0.665 s, 8x = 0.38 s
Inst = 1.84 (0.5
-40
xCT Sec)
5 Time Delay = 0.05 s 5
Seconds
Seconds
ICOG_Outgoing - G
3 3
OC1
ABB
REJ601
CT Ratio 100:1
1 1
IEC Very Inverse
Pickup = 0.5 (0.01
- 2 xCT Sec)
.5
Time Dial = 0.141 .5
3x = 0.952 s, 5x = 0.476 s, 8x = 0.272 s
.3 Inst = 11.5 (0.05
-
12.5 xCT Sec) .3
Time Delay = 0.07 s
.1 .1
.05 .05
.03 .03
MLTP_Incomer_1 - G - LG ICOG_Outgoing - G - LG
.01 .01
.5 1 3 5 10 30 50 100 300 500 1K 3K 5K 10K
Amps X 10 ICOG Panel (Nom. kV=11, Plot Ref. kV=11) ETAP Star 18.0.0C
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Amps X 1000 MLTP (Nom. kV=0.415, Plot Ref. kV=0.415)
.5 1 3 5 10 30 50 100 300 500 1K 3K 5K 10K
1K 1K
MLTP_Incomer_1 - P
OC1
500 500
ALSTOM
300
P127 300
Main Trafo CT Ratio 2500:1
IEC - Extremely Inverse
FLA - Other 65
Pickup = 0.935 (0.1 - 25 xCT Sec)
2133.396 Amps Time Dial = 0.338
100 100
3x = 3.38 s, 5x = 1.13 s, 8x = 0.429 s
Inst = 6.518 (0.5
- 40
xCT Sec)
50
Time Delay = 0.05 s 50
ICOG_Outgoing - P
30 OC1 30
ABB
REJ601
CT Ratio 100:1
10 IEC Extremely Inverse 10
Pickup = 0.966 (0.1
- 2.5
xCT Sec)
Time Dial = 1.6
5 5
Seconds
Seconds
3x = 16 s, 5x = 5.33 s, 8x = 2.03 s
Inst = 18.39 (0.5 - 25 xCT Sec)
3 Time Delay = 0.25 s 3
1 Main Trafo 1
1.6 MVA (Secondary) 6.48 %Z
Delta-Wye Solid Grd
.5 .5
.3 .3
Main Trafo
.1 Inrush .1
Multiplier = 12 xFLA
(25600.75 Amps @ 0.433 kV)
.05 .05
Duration = 5 Cycles
.03 .03
MLTP_Incomer_1 - 3P ICOG_Outgoing - 3P
.01 .01
.5 1 3 5 10 30 50 100 300 500 1K 3K 5K 10K
Amps X 1000 MLTP (Nom. kV=0.415, Plot Ref. kV=0.415) ETAP Star 18.0.0C
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Amps X 100 MLTP (Nom. kV=0.415, Plot Ref. kV=0.415)
.5 1 3 5 10 30 50 100 300 500 1K 3K 5K 10K
1K 1K
500 500
300 300
100 100
MLTP_Incomer_1 - G
OC1
50 50
ALSTOM
30 P127 30
CT Ratio 2500:1
IEC - Very Inverse
Pickup = 0.1 (0.1 - 25 xCT Sec)
Time Dial = 0.197
10 10
3x = 1.33 s, 5x = 0.665 s, 8x = 0.38 s
Inst = 1.84 (0.5
-40
xCT Sec)
5 Time Delay = 0.05 s 5
Seconds
Seconds
ICOG_Outgoing - G
3 3
OC1
ABB
REJ601
CT Ratio 100:1
1 1
IEC Very Inverse
Pickup = 0.5 (0.01
-2 xCT Sec)
.5
Time Dial = 0.141 .5
3x = 0.952 s, 5x = 0.476 s, 8x = 0.272 s
.3 Inst = 11.5 (0.05
-
12.5 xCT Sec) .3
Time Delay = 0.07 s
.1 .1
.05 .05
.03 .03
MLTP_Incomer_1 - G - LG ICOG_Outgoing - G - LG
.01 .01
.5 1 3 5 10 30 50 100 300 500 1K 3K 5K 10K
Amps X 100 MLTP (Nom. kV=0.415, Plot Ref. kV=0.415) ETAP Star 18.0.0C
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PRADESH
Sr.No. Nicco Comments L&T Reply OEPC Comment/ Observation L&T Reply OEPC Comment/ Observation L&T Reply
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1 Please correct the same Noted & corrected in revised drawing. Ok - Ok. Closed -
GENERAL COMMENTS:
1. Please increase the Font size of the document to make it
2 Noted & incorporated in revised drawing. Ok - Font size has again changed from Rev-1 to Rev-2. Pls look into it. Noted and corrected.
easier to read on hardcopy.
2. Please attach all references, like catalogues, relevant
3 Noted & attached. Ok - Ok. Closed -
pages of standards, formulas used etc.
There is no effect of load on incoming current in radial feeder, hence
3. Please attach the ETAP SLD of the complete Power complete power systems SLD is not required.
4 Ok Ok. Closed -
System. However all details necessary for relay setting & co-ordination are
considered in the ETAP SLD & document.
Please note that numerical relays are provided in PMCC & ICOG Panels.
Pre-fault condition is considered as normal operating condiction & DG
4. The Power Distribution System shall be modeled with shall be operated in emergency condition. However inputs required to
5 Ok - Ok. Closed -
Power DG and Lighting DG. co-ordinate these relays (in PMCC panel & ICOG Panel) are considered
in the ETAP system. Other than these equipments/incomers comes out
of protection zone of these relays. Hence same are not considered.
DG & its protection system is out of protection zone of PMCC & ICOG
5. Please collect DG drawings from IOCL and set the Relays Panels relays.
6 IOCL shall note this point and take necessary action. - IOCL shall note this point and take necessary action. -
such that the total system is co-ordinated. DG with their protection system is not in L&T scope. These shall be
provided by DG vendor.
Relays shall sense the currents from the input side of PMCC Panels and
6. Not all LT should be considered as lumped load. Higher this current is independent of outgoing feeders. All outgoings are with
7 rated motors (22kW and above) and power feeders (250A MCCBs, which are having short circuit tripping time as 20mS and thus Ok - Ok. Closed -
and above) shall be modeled separately. coordination of different feeders is not required. Hence outgoing load
is considered as lumped.
7. S/C, O/L and E/F setting of all motor and power feeders
8 Ok - Ok. Closed -
shall be shown.
Noted & provided in revised document. Ok. Please indicate the Full Load Current and Starting
As MPCBs are not used, settings are not
9 8. O/L setting of all motor feeders shall be shown. Current of motors in the Table. Also show MPCB Ok. Closed -
required. Further document is updated for FLC.
setting.
Noted & provided in line with explaination given above at Sr.No. 5, 6 &
7. There is no effect of load on incoming current in radial feeder, hence
10 9. Attach ETAP result of Short Circuit and Load Flow studies. Ok - Ok. Closed -
load flow study is not required. Pickup settings are considered based
on transformer full load current.
Noted and note regarding same has been added in the document
10. Prepare the Relay Setting and Co-ordination study (refer point no.4.2). Applicable information for Relay Setting and Co-
11 Pls refer comment against point no. 15 below. Noted. Pls refer comment against point no. 15 below. Noted.
report following clause number 15.6 and 15.7 of IEEE 242. ordination report is being referred from Cl.NO. 15.6 & 15.7 of IEEE-242
and documents mentioned in Reference document list.
11. Other comments are marked in the body of the
12 Refer response given against respective comments below. - -
document.
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13 11kV Noted & corrected in revised drawing. Ok - Ok. Closed -
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14 This is a new system. Noted. Ok - Ok. Closed -
Please attach
1. An SLD (preferably Acad dwg) showing the type
and rating of protective devices and their associated
current transformers.
This information is for input requirement. The input SLD provied all this 2. The impedance in ohms/ percent/ per unit of all We have shown required data in ETAP SLD
15 Pls comply. Drawing updated as per the comments. Comments are not complied with. Please comply.
information. power transformers and feeder circuit. request to accept the same.
3. Show all the data as indicated in clause 15.6 (a) of
IEEE242.
These are required to make the document an
independent and complete one.
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Please note examples given in IEEE are based on 60Hz however
Table 4-1 and 4-2 are copied from IEEE 242. However,
16 phylosophies mentioned in IEEE are not limited to 60Hz; the same can Ok - Ok. Closed -
please note in IEEE the frequency is 60Hz. Pls clarify.
be applied to 50Hz system also.
Provided table is for information purpose, however for coordination
17 REJ601 & P127 are both Numerical relays. Pls clarify. Ok - Ok. Closed -
purpose applicable values (i.e. solid state relay) are used.
19 Pls provide reference to IEEE 242 Extract from IEEE is attached for your reference. Pls indicate that the Tables are taken from IEEE 242. Document is updated as per the comments. Ok. Closed -
4cycles As per IEEE 242 standard, these times correspondes to 4,5 & 6 cycle.
20 5cycles However as a practice, we maintain IEEE nomenclature. Please refer Ok - Ok. Closed -
6cycles attached IEEE extract.
21 Show the values as per IEEE 242. Noted & incorporated in revised drawing. Ok - Ok. Closed -
Table 4-1 is for CTI of devices and Table 4-2 is for minimum time
24 What is the relation between Table 4-1 and Table 4-2 ? Ok - Ok. Closed -
grading between two relays.
25 Reference Refer Table 4-2 given in the report. Ok - Ok. Closed -
Trafo Damage curve is not plotted properly in TCC.
Pls rectify.
Not shown in curves (Annexure-II). Calculation does not Transformer damage curve is attached for your refernce.
26 Also, as per Trafo Damage curve, Inrush Current is Noted & Corrected. Ok. Closed -
satisfy all the criteria. Updated setting provided in revised document.
>25kA @0.1s. The same is not plotted correctly in
TCC. Pls rectify.
27 Pls attach pages of reference docs. Refer attached extract of IEEE std. Ok - Ok. Closed -
Here it is said that HIGHER of the two current values
will be used for Instantaneous relay pickup setting,
Please refer updated calculations. Refer comment on Calculation Sheet. Noted and doc revised accordingly.
whereas in actual calculation LOWER value is used.
Pls explain.
MCCB-to-relay Updated as LV CB to relay Ok. Closed -
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This can be seen from coordination curves, when the time margin is
28 How ? maintained at maximum fault current, for lower values time margin is Ok - Ok. Closed -
always same or more.
In radial system, there is not effect of load current on input side fault
Final load list available with L&T. Shall consider the same. contribution. Pickup settings are considered based on transformer full
29 Ok - Ok. Closed -
Refer General Comment. load current. Hence relay setting is independent of load connected on
putput side.
This was considered maximum tripping time.
30 Basis ? As per MCCB catalogue it is 20ms & same is now used in revised Not corrected in 4.4(g). Noted & Corrected. Ok. Closed -
document.
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31 Incomer-1 of PMCC from Transformer Noted & incorporated in revised drawing. Ok - Ok. Closed -
32 Pls attach SLD with CT and Relay. Show CT & PT Ratio etc. Noted & incorporated in revised drawing. Pls refer to comment against point no. 15. Noted. Pls refer comment against point no. 15. Noted.
33 Pls identify the relay vis-a-vis SLD Noted & incorporated in revised drawing. Ok - Ok. Closed -
The same is followed as per IEC 60255 curves.
34 Provide reference doc Ok - Ok. Closed -
Refer attachment.
Provide reference doc. We can not limit the fault current, Noted & incorporated in revised drawing. It is PSM setting being
35 Ok - Ok. Closed -
we can limit the PSM setting. Pls look into this. limited.
The same is followed as per IEC 60255 curves.
36 Provide reference doc Ok - Ok. Closed -
Refer attachment.
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59 11kV Noted & incorporated in revised document. Ok - Ok. Closed -
This setting is selected to co-ordinate with down stream relay curves.
Not clear. Max TMS setting available is 1.6. Why 0.7
60 With TMS=1.6 would give time delay of more than 1.5sec between Ok - Ok. Closed -
selected ?
down stream & this relays. The same can be verified with curves.
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67 Why Trafo open circuit voltage is considered ? Noted & updated in revised document. Ok - Ok. Closed -
Since the actual Trafo impedance is not available, use -10% Now actual impence of transformer is considered in revised document.
68 Ok - Ok. Closed -
tolerance. Supporting document is attached for your reference.
69 Reference Rct is selected based on PMCC Panel BOM. Ok - Ok. Closed -
70 Full form of CLPS, PS Class ? Yes; It is PS Class CT. Ok - Ok. Closed -
BS3950 (Table 2), Mathew's equation, was indicated for Magnetizing
71 Submit referred page current calculation, which is selected as 30mA. Ok - Ok. Closed -
However the equation has been removed from the calculation format,
72 Submit all referred docs. since it doesn’t have direct relation to CT sizing. Ok - Ok. Closed -
73 Show cable Cable is shown in the SLD from ICOG to transformer. Ok - Ok. Closed -
74 Show busduct Noted & indicated in the revised SLD. Ok - Ok. Closed -
75 Add FLC and starting current of motor Document is updated as per the comments. Refer comment on Calculation Sheet. Noted and Doc revised accordingly.
76 MPCB settings shall be shown MPCB is not used thus setting are not required. Ok. Closed -
CT ratio is selected based on approved LT PMCC
77 CT ratio 2500/1 A to be corrected to 2500/5 A Ok. Closed -
drawing.
Transformer impedance NOT corrected in ETAP SLD and therefore the short circuit
current values are not updated as per actual transformer impedance. However, in
REF Protection sheet the actual transformer impedance has been considered. Please
78 Noted & Corrected.
correct in ETAP SLD.
This comment has been made in earlier revision but it has not been complied.
It has also been noted that some corrections have been made in the calculation but
80 Noted & Ocrrected.
trinagle marking has not been put. Please put traingle marking in corrections.
The SLD in TCC curves are NOT printed properly. We are attaching a SAMPLE TCC
curve where the SLD can be seen properly.
Noted & Corrected.
This comment has been made in earlier revision but it has not been complied.
Page No-1
Put Page Number in each sheet.
Noted & Corretced.
Correct Total number of pages.
Page No-2
Correct as per actual page Title. Noted & Corrected
Correct Noted & Corrected
Page No-3
Correct this, as in "Relay co-ordination setting detail - S/C, O/L and TOL of O/G
Clause is updated.
Feeders" it has been mentioned that FLC has been calculated based on IE2 efficiency.
Page No-8
1) S/C & E/F in PMCC incomer through Micom P127. REF is unit protection thus need not to be co-
2) REF in Trafo neutral. ordinated with other system. E/F in PMCC
3) Standby E/F Relay (64S) in trafo neutral. incomer is co-ordinated with SEF. Please refer
setting calculations for further details.
Pls explain, for a E/F how these three relays will be co-ordinated ?
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This result shows "Sequence values" of L-L fault.
Noted & corrected.
Pls use "Phase values" of L-L fault.
Page 20
1. Print out in hard copy is very small. Pls plot bigger as earlier.
2. Plot against both 0.433kV and 11kV voltage (option available in ETAP). Noted & Corrected.
3. Why the SLD is not plotted clearly. Pls refer attached sample TCC curve.
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1. Print out in hard copy is very small. Pls plot bigger as earlier.
2. Plot against both 0.433kV and 11kV voltage (option available in ETAP). Noted & Corrected.
3. Why the SLD is not plotted clearly. Pls refer attached sample TCC curve.