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Can anyone explain to me what will happen if the actual load in a
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02/08/07 constant spring is a little bit lighter/heavier than what it is designed for?
Posts: 5 Will it function like a solid support if the actual load is lighter? Does it 1 registered
Loc: TX get activated only when it reached the load it is designed for? (Mrragpicker), 8
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The constant ttype spring hanger might have 5% variation over its
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design load of the constant spring, then yes, it will function like a solid
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Re: Constant Spring [Re: Richard Yee] #26260 03/31/09 11:56 AM
ak2004
Member Thanks Richard.
So it means that it only gets activated when the load it is designed for is
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02/08/07 reached? What then will happen if the load is over the design load?
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Re: Constant Spring [Re: ak2004] #26274 03/31/09 04:45 PM
Jerry K.
Member Imagine constant spring support as a force of the same magnitude as
the spring itself. It is attached to the specified node (or its CNode) and
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01/04/01 is always there, regardless of pipe's movement. If it's undersized, the
Posts: 10 pipe will sag, if it's oversiezed, the pipe will move up, until it reaches
Loc: Houston, TX, equilibrium. But the force (constant spring) will always be there, its
USA value unchanged. In real life, a "constant" spring support, according to
MSS SP58 may have a mean variability of upto 6%, so it's no precisely
a constant support (Lisega claims max. variability 4%).
The difference between variable and constant spring support (how
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CAESAR II runs them), is that variable spring load (reaction) on a pipe
changes by travel X spring rate (decreases for up movement and
increases for down), and in case of constant is always the same.
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Re: Constant Spring [Re: Jerry K.] #26289 04/01/09 08:32 AM
CraigB
Member Constant supports have a field adjustment for the load. They are
normally installed with the travel stop until hydro is completed.
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Posts: 378 After hydro, the pipefitter will go to the constant hanger, mark the
Loc: Denver, CO position of the support (with travel stop in place) on the position
indicator scale, and remove the travel stop. If it moves significantly, he
will then adjust the constant support load until the piping goes more or
less back to the position he has marked.
Note that all constant and variable supports need an adjustment like this
because the 12.5% mill tolerance on wall thickness also produces (more
or less) a 12.5% weight per foot variation for the pipe. Since we usually
design variable supports for a 25% max load variation, you can see that
this pipe wall mill tolerance has a huge effect on your system
displacements and loads.
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