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You may find a needle size listed as 90/14 or 14/90. The order of the numbers does not
effect the size.
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for dressmaking = 50 to 70
or silk nos 24 or 30
embroidery = silk 80 to 10
I know modern machinery embroidery is "30" and a very fine crochet cotton is "40" but do
these still equate to the older sizes?
Denier was the first methodology for measuring threads, then along came the decitex system. Moving
on, the current Metric system was introduced. Any or all systems may be used in the trade.
Confusion arises because although the rationale makes sense, logic is different and for some, very
confusing when the exact opposite formula applies to the denier/decitex and metric systems.
As an example - a pair of tights (pantyhose to our American cousins) is measured in Denier and
the higher the number the thicker the material. So a pair of 10 denier tights are fine, 40 denier is much
heavier.
With metric numbering systems for thread, the opposite applies - the thickerthe thread, the lower the
metric number. So a number 12 thread is thickerthan a number 40 weight.
Using the metric system, all you really need to remember for embroidery and sewing thread is:
'the higher the number the finer the thread, the lower the number the thicker the thread'
or that it is the opposite to a pair of tights!
The explanations and calculations are for the more technically minded...
Dtex 135x2 Den 120x2 Nm 74/2No 40 (which is actually Nm74/2 = 74÷2 = 37)
In these systems, the thicker the thread, the higher the number
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International Metric Count = Nm or No
Nm = number of 1000 metre hanks per kilo
Denier to metric = 9000 ÷ denier
Metric to Denier = 9000 ÷ metric
Dtex to metric = 10,000 ÷ dtex
Metric to Dtex = 1000 ÷ metric
In the Metric system, the finer the thread, the higher the number and the number itself is usually
rounded to the nearest 5 or 0. Example Conversions are not always 100% accurate, but a general
guide.
Using an example from the Madeira CLASSIC shadecard, Madeira CLASSIC No 40
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135 x 2 = 270 x 0.9 = 243 ÷ 2 = Denier 121 x
Dtex 135 x 2 converted to Denier =
2
Den 120 x 2 converted to Decitex = 120 x 2 = 240 ÷ 0.9 = 267 ÷ 2 = Dtex 133 x 2
Nm 74/2 = No 37
Denier Count
Metric Count (Nm):
(den):
Nm = m / 1-g
Den = g / 9000-m
English Cotton Count (NeB):
Tex Count (tex):
NeB = 840-yd / 1-lb or NeB = 768.1-m /
Tex = g / 1000-m
453.59-g
From Denier:
From Nm:
To Nm:
To Tex:
To NeB:
To NeB:
To Tex:
TO Den:
From English cotton count (NeB)
From tex count (tex) to others:
to others:
Nm = 1000 / tex
Nm = 1.693 x NeB
NeB = 590 / tex
Tex = 590 / NeB
Den = 9 x tex
Den = 5314 / NeB
Enter a number in Tex field, then click
Enter a number in NeB field, then
outside the text box or enter.
click outside the text box or enter.
From Tex:
From NeB:
To Nm:
To Nm:
To NeB:
To Tex:
TO Den:
To Den:
Conversion examples:
[ Ex. 1: NeB 30 = 5315/30 den = 177 den ] [ Ex. 2: 150 den =
NeB 5315 / 150 = NeB 35 ] [ Ex. 3: NeB 20 = Nm 1.693 x 20 = Nm 34 ]