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Examining Essential Doctrines

of the New IFB Movement


By The Reason Files

Examining Essential Doctrines


Part 2a: Who is God?
In order to determine if a group, organization, denomination, or even individual is actually Christian,
one must examine their stated beliefs in the clear and revealing light of Scripture. By comparing their
beliefs with the explicit teaching of God's Word, the truthfulness or falsity of their professed
Christianity soon becomes clearly evident. Christian beliefs (doctrine) can be broken down into two
primary categories. The first are what can be termed primary doctrines, which are those doctrines that
directly relate to our salvation and include the requirements for salvation, the gospel, who God is, who
the Father is, who Jesus is, who the Spirit is, and those beliefs that are connected to these things. The
second category is everything else (this could be broken down further into secondary and tertiary
doctrines, but for this article these two categories are sufficient). It is the primary doctrines that we will
concern ourselves with in this second part of “Steven Anderson and the New IFB Movement.”
Probably the foremost doctrine of Scripture is the doctrine of God. What a person believes concerning
God, such as who God is, the Trinity, the Deity of Christ, who the Holy Spirit is, etc., can be a
determinative factor regarding ones salvation. The Bible is very specific about who God is, about His
attributes and character and so forth. If one believes in a God that does not fit the attributes, character,
requirements, etc., as set forth in Scripture, then one is worshiping a false god of one’s own design, and
that is nothing more than idolatry.
To begin with, let’s take a look at what the New IFB claims it believes about God. According to the
various statements of faith for each of the New IFB churches,
“We believe that Jesus is God, and that Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Ghost and born of the
virgin Mary. We believe that the Godhead consists of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and that
these three are one (1 John 5:7). The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct persons
(John 1:1, 1 Corinthians 15:27-28, John 8:16-18, John 17:5). This doctrine is commonly known as the
trinity. We reject the heresy of modalism or so-called ‘oneness.’”1

We believe in the traditional and historical teaching reagarding the Trinity. We believe in one
God that is manifested in three seperate persons. (God the Father, God the Son, and God the
Holly Spirit)...We believe that Jesus is God, and that Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Ghost and
born
of the virgin Mary.2

We believe that Jesus is God in the flesh, and that Jesus Christ was begotten by the Holy Ghost of the
Virgin Mary. (John 1:1-14, 2 Tim. 3:16, Luke 1:27-35, Matt. 1:23, Isaiah 7:14) … We believe in the
Trinity, That is God the Father; God the Son (Jesus); and God the Holy Spirit; and
these three are one. We reject modalism and oneness theology and regard such as a damnable heresy
not consistent with the nature and character of God. (1 John 5:7-8, Hebrews 1:3, Genesis 1:26-27, 2
Cor. 11:3-4, Galatians 1:8-9)3

We believe that Jesus is God in the flesh, and that Jesus Christ was begotten by the Holy Ghost of the
Virgin Mary.4

TRINITY – God created the heaven and the earth and consists of three persons: The Father, Jesus
Christ (The Word), and the Holy Ghost and these three are one God.
THE FATHER – The Father so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son to die for the sins of
the world. No man has seen the Father but he has been declared by his son, Jesus Christ, whom he sent
to be the saviour of the world.
THE SON – Jesus is the word of God, the son of God and God. He created all things and became flesh
born of a virgin and died for the sins of the whole world, was buried, and rose again.
THE HOLY GHOST – The Holy Ghost is the spirit of truth and guides believers into all truth but he
does not speak of himself.5
We believe that Jesus Christ was God manifest in the flesh, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, was
crucified on a cross, was buried, and rose again from the dead after 3 days. … We believe that the
godhead consists of the Father, the Word (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Ghost and these three are one (the
trinity.)6

And the rest of the New IFB churches are pretty much in line with those shown here. Sometimes exact
wording, sometimes similar wording. All of them look to be fairly standard church statements of faith
regarding the trinity. Well, all except Manly Perry and Old Path Baptist Church, but we’ll get back to
him in a moment.
Let’s compare these statements regarding the Trinity with what the Bible teaches about the Trinity, by
taking a crash course in the biblical doctrine of the Trinity.
A Crash Course on the Biblical Christian Doctrine of the Trinity
1. There is only one true and living God. Who is infinite, eternal, and perfect. [Deut.6:4; 1Thess.1:9;
Jer.10:10; Job 11:7;26:14; Isa.43:10; 1Cor.8:4; cf. 1Tim.2:5]
2. The one true living God is a Spirit, pure, invisible, without body or parts, or human passions, without
change. As a spirit, God is not limited by a body. He neither made up of, nor is limited by, any material
elements, and therefore is omnipresent. He is immense, eternal, incomprehensible, omnipotent
(almighty), perfect in wisdom and knowledge (omniscient), perfect in holiness, perfect in freedom,
perfect in His absoluteness. [Jn.4:24; 1Tim.1:17; Exo.33:20; Lk.24:39; Jam.1:17; Mal.3:6; 1Kgs.8:27;
Jer.23:23-24; Ps.90:2; Ps.145:3; Gen.17:1; Rev.4:8; Rom.16:27; Is.6:3; Ps.115:3; Ex.3:14; Job.11:7]
3. The one true living God is, in His nature and essence, A Triune God. The Triune God is comprised of
three distinct, but inseparable Persons: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy
Spirit. They are co-equal in power, co-existent, co-eternal, and consubstantial (of the same nature,
substance, or essence, however, this is not to say each is Triune in nature, as they are not). The Father is
God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God. At the same time, however, even though the Three are the
One God, they are also distinct in subsistence (having a real individual existence). The Father is not the
Son, the Son is not the Father, the Father is not the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is not the Father, the
Son is not the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is not the Son. The Father is never “sent” in Scripture, nor is
He incarnated or poured out at Pentecost. The Holy Spirit does not die on the cross for our sins. The
Father is of none, neither begotten nor proceeding from; the Son is eternally begotten of the Father; the
Holy Spirit is eternally proceeding from the both the Father and the Son. [1Jn.5:7; Matt.3:16-17; 28:19;
2Cor.13:14; Jn.1:14,18; Jn.15:26; Gal.4:6; Jn.6:27; Rom.1:7; 1Pet.1:2; Jn.1:1-3; Col.1:16-17; Tit.2:13;
Heb.1:2; Acts 5:3-4; 1Cor.3:16; Rom.15:30]
4. Steven Anderson complains about using words that do not appear in the Bible, such as “sovereignty,”
“soteriology,” “hamartiology,” “Christophany,”7 and so forth; apparently not understanding that while
they do not appear in the Bible, they are used to succinctly describe a concept that is in the Bible, like
“Trinity” and “Trinitarian,” both words that he does use. Another word that is used to describe a
concept taught in the Bible is perichoresis, which is used to describe the special relationship between
the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Three, while distinct (as shown), are inseparable; mutually
surrounding, indwelling, and glorifying each other. The Father indwells and glorifies the Son, the Son
indwells and glorifies the Father, the Father and the Son indwell the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit
indwells and glorifies both the Father and the Son. [John 1:1-3; 3:16; 10:37–38; 13:31-32; 14:8-11,18–
20; 15:26; 16:13-15; 17:1-5, 20–24; 2 Cor.5:19; Heb.1:3]
Note the illustration of the Trinity below, showing the special relationship that God has with Himself,
as expressed by the word, perichoresis.

Now that we have shown what Steven Anderson and the New IFB Movement claim to believe
regarding God, and now that we have seen what the Bible teaches about God with regard to the Trinity;
let’s compare all of this with what Steven Anderson and the New IFB actually believes and teaches
about God, as demonstrated in the videos they have made public for all to see.
In order to understand the view of God that Steven Anderson and other New IFB pastors have and
preach from their pulpits, it is necessary to understand how it has changed over the past year or two. It
is also necessary to understand that as goes Steven Anderson, so goes the rest of the New IFB.
From the outset of his ministry, Steven Anderson believed, taught, and preached Modalistic
Monarchianism, which is also referred to as “Oneness Christology.” Monarchianism teaches that God
is one single entity or person, as opposed to the Trinitarian belief of one God coexisting
consubstantially in three persons. Modalistic Monarchianism is the belief that the single entity of
Monarchianism is Jesus, who also manifests as the Father or the Holy Spirit. In many of Steven
Anderson's sermons he clearly and explicitly taught that Jesus is the Father, often turning to passages
such as Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9, John 10:30, Hebrews 1:3, and others to support his Modalistic beliefs.8
When one former member of Steven Anderson's church was asked if he had ever heard Steven
Anderson preach from the pulpit that Jesus is the Father, the man's instant response was, “Of course.”9
Anderson was so insistent in his Modalistic beliefs that, when James White presented Anderson with
Luke 23:42-43, where the thief who is being crucified along side Jesus says to the Lord, “Remember
me when thou comest into thy kingdom” and Jesus replied to him, “Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt
thou be with me in paradise” and asked Anderson to explain how Jesus could be in hell for three days
suffering torment (another Anderson belief) while at the same time being in heaven with the thief;
Anderson looked at him with a straight face and said that Jesus was in hell, and the thief was in heaven
with the Father. When White reiterated that Jesus said the thief would be with Jesus, Anderson said that
it spoke to the Trinity. However, unless Anderson is prepared to say that Jesus lied, then he must clearly
believe (or at least believed in 2014 when the film was made) that Jesus and the Father are the same
person.10
This hard and immovable belief of Anderson's naturally caused other New IFB pastors and evangelists
to follow suit and preach from their pulpits the exact same Modalistic Monarchianism that Steven
Anderson preached from his pulpit. Donnie Romero,11 Manly Perry,12 David Berzins,13 Roger
Jimenez,14 Jonathan Shelley,15 and others all fell into lockstep obedience and began believing and
teaching and preaching the exact same thing as Steven Anderson. Then came the bizarre Tyler Baker
incident at Faithful Word Baptist Church.
Tyler Baker had been hired by Steven Anderson to be his church deacon, after which he ordained Baker
to the deacon position. As it happened (and apparently happens quite a bit at Anderson's church), some
unnamed informant for Steven Anderson was eavesdropping on one of Baker's conversations with other
church members, discussing Anderson’s modalist beliefs. This informant then went to Anderson and
told him that Baker and the others were talking and mentioning his name and so forth. Anderson took
that information and managed to work himself up into a rage, convinced that his deacon was leading a
conspiracy against him. He immediately took steps to remove Baker from his church.16
An hour after Tyler Baker's wife had given birth to their son, Baker and his two other children stopped
off briefly at Faithful Word Baptist church. While there, Tyler was called into the church office by
Anderson. The meeting was secretly video recorded by another church member and later posted to
YouTube. To say that Anderson came unhinged would be one of the greatest understatements since
Noah said it might rain.17 During a lengthy anger-filled screaming tantrum by Anderson, the Faithful
Word pastor repeatedly sticks his finger in Baker's face, screams at Baker, makes several threatening
movements toward Baker appearing as if he would strike him, calling Baker names, slandering him,
and making repeated false accusations of conspiratorial plans on Baker's part, and then ending his
dictatorial tirade by firing Baker. All of this while Baker's wife was in active labor, a fact that Anderson
himself acknowledges in the video. To his credit, Tyler Baker did not lower himself to Anderson's level
of worldliness. He tried to reason with Anderson, he tried to explain things to Anderson, all to no avail.
Anderson was beyond reason and he wasn't going to accept anything from Baker with the single
exception of the figurative pound of flesh he was extracting through his schoolyard bullying tantrum.
Ironically, when Anderson fired Tyler Baker and kicked him out of the church for believing modalism,
Anderson was teaching modalism himself; and Baker, although he was discussing Anderson’s
modalistic beliefs, did not hold such beliefs. According to a video made and uploaded by Tyler Baker,
he actually believes in a form of tritheism, which is the belief system Anderson switched to after firing
Baker.18
Before it was all said and done, several more left Anderson's church. He fired his evangelist Garrett
Kirchway when another of Anderson's informants who was monitoring Mrs. Kirchway's social media
activity noticed a comment about Mr. Kirchway's modalistic beliefs. Then came Domonique Davis,
another Faithful Word staff member fired by Anderson, followed by church members Elliott Ray,
Russell Bopst, and Rick Martinez.19
All three left of their own accord because of Anderson's behavior and flip-flopping doctrine. Anderson
would not, however, allow them to simply leave on their own accord; and he made it a point to publicly
expel them from his church in front of the congregation, while railing against them from the pulpit,
calling them names, vilifying them, and more. All of this was, of course, followed by a number of
slanderous YouTube videos lobbed at the “heretics” and “reprobates” and (fill in the blank with the
Anderson invective du jour). A practice painfully common within the New IFB.
It was not long after, however, that Tyler Baker, Elliott Ray, and others were making videos of their
own, using clips from Anderson's church sermons, featuring Steven Anderson and others, clearly and
explicitly teaching modalism, the exact same thing Anderson was calling them heretics for believing.
Anderson's hypocrisy must have become immediately apparent to him, as he soon posted a video in
which he claimed he never taught or believed in what he called “Oneness Pentecostalism” and has
always believed in the orthodox view of the Trinity.20 (it should be noted that, the issue has never been
Oneness Pentecostalism, as none of them have Pentecostal beliefs or practices. The problem is, in
addition to Anderson's hypocrisy, he also has no idea what he is talking about. He does not understand
what Oneness Pentecostalism is, nor does he understand what Modalistic Monarchianism is. One
would think before leveling charges of heresy, he would have at least learned a bit about the issue at
hand.)
This led to even more videos of Anderson teaching modalism, which led to Anderson producing yet
another video claiming yet again that he has never believed in anything but the Trinity, that Baker and
others were taking him out of context by showing only clips of videos where he was actually refuting
modalism.21
When yet more videos which were longer and demonstrated that he was not being taken out of context
(some of which are still on the Faithful Word Baptist Church website, indicating that Anderson
apparently has no problem with them); Anderson then produced a video claiming that he did say Jesus
was the Father, but that he misspoke,22 and clarified that it isn't really heresy to say Jesus is the Father
(even though he ostensibly ejected church members for saying that very thing), and then justifying his
modalistic comments by claiming that he never said that “Jesus is God the Father.” Apparently in his
mind there is some distinction; and saying Jesus is the Father is not modalism, but saying Jesus is God
the Father is modalism, or something like that.23
During this mess, it was revealed that Anderson was being less than honest in his actions. Although he
railed against and kicked out his church a group of men for believing the exact same thing that
Anderson himself believed; at the same time he was very much aware that other New IFB pastors, such
as Roger Jimenez, were teaching the exact same thing, yet he only “disagreed” with his very good
friend Roger Jimenez as the email shown here demonstrates.24
It's interesting that when New IFB pastors, including Steven Anderson actually teach modalism from
behind the pulpit, he doesn't think it is a big deal at all. At best it seems to warrant nothing more than a
“disagreement”. But when a group of congregants get together and discuss what their pastor is
teaching, and he finds out they are discussing it behind his back, he raises all kinds of hob about it, and
publicly chastises them, ridicules them, brands them as heretics and kicks them out of his church, and
he does so from the pulpit in front of the rest of the congregation in order to make examples of them,
and now everyone knows what happens when you cross Pastor Steven Anderson.
Would it not be more pastoral, if the pastor finds a group of people in his flock that perhaps might hold
some unbiblical views, would it not be more biblical and loving to take them aside, find out for sure
what they actually believe, and if it is unbiblical then disciple them, teach them, and bring them back in
line with God's Word? Would that not be the biblical method of correction? Yes, it would. But by his
actions, we can see that Steven Anderson is anything but biblical. By his actions we can see that Steven
Anderson is a destroyer. And, as Jesus said, by his fruit we will know him!
But Anderson had made his mistake. He had publicly excoriated several people, ejecting them from his
church simply because they believed the same thing he himself had been teaching them to believe.
When he tried to cover it up, his lie was exposed, and this was repeated over and over again. He could
not back down, however, lest he be exposed as a false teacher.25 Nor could his fellow New IFB
pastors, as they too were quick to change their doctrine of God to be in line with Steven Anderson.26 It
has been reported that in one instance, Anderson personally telephoned Manly Perry of Old Path
Baptist Church in Texas, and told him to change his doctrine of God to reflect what Anderson now
believed. It allegedly took about an hour to change Perry's way of thinking to more in line with Steven
Anderson.27
Anderson continued to double down on his condemnation of heretical oneness people, as well as
maintaining his “I've always been a trinitarian” rhetoric, in video after video after video. The longer he
kept this up, however, the more “I'm a trinitarian” videos he and other New IFB pastors uploaded to
YouTube, it became increasingly apparent that not only did they have no discernible clue as to what
modalism actually is (especially when they were teaching it and calling it trinitarianism), they also do
not understand true biblical trinitarianism.
Although Steven Anderson currently states that God is a Trinity, it is worth remembering he stated the
exact same thing when he taught modalism. As he goes on to define and describe his version of the
Trinity, however, it quickly becomes clear he still does not believe in the biblical Trinity. Anderson
describes each person of the Godhead as having:
1. Their own separate, personal body (further explaining the Father and the Holy Spirit have a “spirit
body” with hands and a face, etc);
2. Their own separate, personal spirit (Anderson explains that if you believe there is only one Spirit,
then you are a “oneness modalist”);
3. Their own separate, personal “seat of consciousness.” He states there are “three seats of
consciousness” within the Trinity. Not consciousness in the sense of qualia (which deals more with
individual subjective sense perceptions), but rather consciousness as in self-awareness.
Anderson goes on to teach:
4. Jesus does not simply have His own spirit, but in fact has “seven spirits”;
5. Both Jesus and the Holy Spirit look identical to the Father in their outward appearance; and,
6. Jesus has always been, for all eternity, a human man. Anderson explains this by saying this is how
Jesus was able to walk around on earth during “Old Testament times.”28
It is safe to say that Steven Anderson no longer teaches modalism (although he continues to keep
sermons up on his church website that teach modalism, so he may very well go back to a modalistic
belief system at some point). However, while it is clear this new belief system of Anderson’s is not
modalism, it is equally clear it is not trinitarian either, in spite of Anderson’s claim that he beliefs
reflect the orthodox Christian belief of the Trinity that has been held by the Christian church for past
roughly two thousand years.
To say, as Anderson does, that the Trinity has three separate people, with three separate and distinct
bodies, each with their own separate and distinct spirit (seven for Anderson’s Jesus), and three separate
and distinct seats of consciousness is certainly not the orthodox teaching of the Trinity. It is, in fact,
tritheism, the belief that there are three gods. In essence, Steven Anderson is trying to meld a
monotheistic belief of one God, and a tritheistic belief of three separate gods, and call this blasphemous
amalgamation the Trinity.
Hypocritically, Steven Anderson claims Sam Gipp is “demonic and evil” claiming that Gipp is
“blaspheming Christ in such a wicked, wicked way” when Gipp preached that Jesus was supposed to
be named Emmanuel and not Jesus. While Gipp’s message may have been horribly bad exegesis, or
even bad eisegesis, it was certainly not demonic and evil and blasphemy and wicked as Anderson
claims;29 While Anderson’s trithesistic three gods in one, with a Jesus that has always been a human
man with seven spirits is most certainly blasphemous heresy.
As per the usual course of action among the New IFB pastors, as soon as Steven Anderson teaches
something or does something, they rest will undoubtedly don their lemming suits and follow him right
off a theological cliff. They did here as well. Donnie Romero and Roger Jimenez went to great lengths
to express to their congregations that they too believe and have always believed in the Trinity, just like
Steven Anderson. Unfortunately for them, perhaps a little too much like Steven Anderson. Donnie
Romero began teaching the members of the Godhead each possessed their own personal and separate
body, as well as their own personal and separate spirit. Roger Jimenez repeated this agreeing each had
their own body and spirit, but went a step further in an attempt to reiterate his belief in the Deity of
Jesus Christ by exclaiming that Jesus is “100% God and 100% of God,”30 like some sort of extension
of God, much like a sleeve on a coat. Clearly, Donnie Romero is firmly on the tritheistic bandwagon
with Steven Anderson, but it appears Roger Jimenez has one foot on the tritheistic bandwagon, with his
other foot still stuck on the modalism wagon.
There is no doubt, however, just where Manly Perry stands. As much as he is trying to obey Steven
Anderson and get on board with Anderson's tritheistic view of the Trinity, he seems to be completely
stuck on the modalism wagon, teaching that God is one entity, and not three persons, and rebuking
those who say God is three persons in one God, as unbiblical. He compares God to man by saying man
is a Trinity as well having a body, a soul, and a spirit. In keeping with this train of thought, Manly Perry
states that God the Father is the soul of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit is, of course, the Spirit of the
Godhead, and Jesus is the physical flesh and blood body of the Godhead. “Three in one!” he states as
he stands there in this pulpit smiling. But this is the same old modalism he has always taught. It is just
that now, like the others, he calls this a trinitarian view of God.31
Other New IFB pastors have already jumped on Anderson’s coat tails, running YouTube and uploading
“Trinity” sermon after “Trinity” sermon. The problem is, however, in their zeal to not be identified as
the modalists they once were, they have sprinted past orthodox Christianity and right back into heresy;
moving from modalism to tritheism.
New IFB pastor Joe Major delivered a sermon not long after the Tyler Baker / Garrett Kirchway
incidents, and in that sermon he emphasized that a denial of the Trinity would not be tolerated by him.
Not in any way, shape, or form.32 Steven Anderson was apparently impressed by this and posted that
particular clip from Major's sermon to his own YouTube channel. In light of the fact the New IFB has
moved from modalism to tritheism, one wonders if Joe Major will hold true to his word and separate
himself and his two churches from Steven Anderson and the New IFB, or, if he will capitulate to
Anderson and walk back back his statements?
At the end of the day, regardless of their reasons for doing so, the god being described by Steven
Anderson, Donnie Romero, Roger Jimenez and the rest is the god they serve and worship. It is not,
however, the God of the Bible. What Steven Anderson and the New IFB have done is they have created
a god of their own design in their own minds; and by doing so they have created and are worshiping an
idol. Perhaps not one crafted from wood, stone, or precious metals, but an idol nonetheless. A false god.
The One True God stated in Exodus 20:3-5, “You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not
make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the
waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a
jealous God.” You will notice this passage says nothing of crafting an idol using solid materials. God
simply says, “you shall not make for yourself an idol...” Deuteronomy 4:15-16 says, “Take ye therefore
good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the Lord spake unto you
in Horeb out of the midst of the fire: Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the
similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female.” Yet, this is exactly what the New IFB has
done.
The Sovereignty of God
Steven Anderson also has a strange view of the sovereignty of God. In a video clip created by Steven
Anderson, and uploaded by him to his personal YouTube channel, Anderson states he does not like the
word sovereign because “it’s not in the Bible at all, not in the King James one time, and people twist it
to mean whatever they want it to mean. And, so, it’s a word that brings confusion. It doesn’t bring
clarity to any discussion. It’s a word that’s deceptive, and so I don’t use it.”33
Anderson’s argument here is at best a very weak attempt to justify his belief that God is not sovereign.
If he does not want to use a word that does not appear anywhere in the King James version; a word that
people twist to mean whatever they want it to mean; a word that brings confusion rather than clarity –
then why does he use the word Trinity? It doesn’t appear in the Bible, people twist the meaning of it all
the time, and in a conversation with those who do not understand what the Trinity is – like Steven
Anderson – it brings nothing but confusion. So why does he use it? No, he doesn’t like the word
sovereign, as it applies to God, because Steven Anderson does not want God to be sovereign.
He goes on to say, “You know, it’s better to use the words God uses – the Bible says, I started the
sermon with this, 1 Corinthians 2:13, ‘Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s
wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth;’ So the words which we should use are not the
words of man’s wisdom.” This is Anderson’s attempt to equate the sovereignty of God with the false
teachings of man, rather than the true teachings of the Holy Spirit, thus delegitimizing the sovereignty
of God. Then he continues in a mocking tone, “hermeneutics, homiletics, soteriology, hamartiology,
Christophany, Theophany, protoevangelium.” In using the mocking character voice he uses when
saying these words, Anderson is mocking those who use such words, trying to make them appear
stupid. In fact, he goes on to say, “It’s just stupid to use big words just to impress people – I’m not
impressed. Jesus spoke and the common man heard Him gladly. He wasn’t tryin’ to just impress by
usin’ big crazy words that no one understood.”34
Well, neither are those who use such words. And while the words may not actually appear in the King
James Bible, they describe solid biblical concepts, To mock hermeneutics seems to imply that
Anderson thinks it is stupid to employ sound standards of interpretation when reading and studying the
Bible, for that is the essence of the word hermeneutics. To mock homiletics is to say it is stupid to be
able to write a good sermon that impacts people and teaches them the truths of Scripture. Soteriology –
the study of the doctrine of salvation; hamartiology – the study of sin and hw it affects people;
Christophany and Theophany – the study of the appearances of both the preincarnate Christ and God on
the earth; and protoevangelium – understanding the actions of the serpent in the Garden of Eden, and
the impact of that first Messianic prophecy – Anderson must think all these are stupid, and through his
mockery of them he is encouraging his followers to eschew these studies. Why? Probably because once
they actually sit down apart from Anderson, and actually read the Scriptures, they may very well
discover he has been leading them down a very wide path to their eternal damnation.
Anderson claims that people twist the meaning of the word sovereign to mean whatever they want it to
mean. People do that all the time with any number of words. What is the actual definition of the word?
According to Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language, as an adjective the word
refers to supreme in power, possessing supreme dominion, superior to others, predominant. As a noun,
the word refers to a supreme ruler, one who possesses the highest authority without control.35
Does God fit these definitions? Is God a Supreme Ruler who possessed the highest authority? Does
God posses supreme power and dominion? Is God superior to others? Is God predominant? According
to Easton’s Bible Dictionary, God’s Sovereignty is defined as God’s “absolute right to do all things
according to His own good pleasure.36
He also tries to belittle to sovereignty of God by implying it is a satanic doctrine thought up by
Calvinism (which Anderson believes is of satanic origin). He claims, “you’ll constantly hear people
that are Calvinists harp on this [imitating a chicken] ‘braaak, braaak, God’s sovereign, God’s sovereign,
braaak, sovereign, sovereign, sovereign’ they just keep repeating it, and they repeat it so much you start
to think it’s a biblical truth! It’s like, ‘well of course God’s sovereign’, right? Like whenever you
try..start talking to them that’s like their starting point. ‘Well, you agree that God’s sovereign, right?’
and I always just, ‘No.’...When people say He’s sovereign, here’s what they mean, ‘Oh, He’s
controlling everything. He’s controlling everything. Everything is happening on this earth according to
His will.’ Let me tell you something. That is a lie. If that’s what you mean by sovereign, no. … That’s a
false doctrine. If that’s what you mean by sovereignty, that God’s controlling the events on this earth,
then that is a heresy and a false doctrine.”37
Not surprisingly, Scripture disagrees with Steven Anderson. For example:
1. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure – Philippians 2:13
2. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it
until the day of Jesus Christ. – Philippians 1:6
3. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: not of works,
lest any many should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works,
which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. – Ephesians 2:8-10
4. For who maketh thee to differ one from another? And what hast thou that thou didst not receive? –
1 Corinthians 4:7
5. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much
fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. – John 15:5
6. Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of
God – 2 Corinthians 3:5
7. Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the spirit of God calleth Jesus
accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. – 1 Corinthians 12:3
8. Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is
none like Me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not
yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: calling a ravenous bird from
the east, the man that executeth My counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring
it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. – Isaiah 46:9-11
9. Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and
the LORD hath not done it? – Amos 3:6 [note: evil in this context means calamity or disaster]
10. “In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of
Him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will” – Ephesians 1:11
11. A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps. – Proverbs 16:9
12. There are many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand. –
Proverbs 19:21
13. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I
might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt
say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man,
who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why
hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one
vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to
make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to
destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which
he had afore prepared unto glory, – Romans 9:17-2317
14. There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the Lord. – Proverbs 21:30
15. Consider the work of God: for who can make that straight, which he hath made crooked? –
Ecclesiastes 7:13
16. The LORD hath made all things for Himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. –
Proverbs 16:4
17. Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not? – Lamentations
3:37
18. For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that. – James 4:15
16. And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith He that is holy, He that is
true, He that hath the key of David, He that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no
man openeth; – Revelation 3:7
19. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things. – Isaiah 45:7 [note: evil, as used in this context, means calamity or disaster]
20. “I am the vine, ye are the branches. He that abideth in Me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth
much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” – John 15:5
And perhaps one should review the Book of Job, noting that Satan does absolutely nothing to Job
without God’s sovereign permission.
There is no doubt that God is sovereign, and there is no doubt that Scripture states this clearly, plainly,
and repeatedly. He and He alone created the universe and everything in it. He and He alone sustains the
universe and everything in it. He and He alone is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. There is
not one thing that happens that He is not aware of, not one thing that happens that is outside of His
control; and, as we see in Ephesians 1:11, He works all things – all things – after the counsel of His
own will. Did you catch that? All Things. God works all things. He knows all things, and all things
are done according to His will. That is the very definition of the sovereignty of God; and yet, in spite
of what Scripture clearly and explicitly states about this, Steven Anderson refuses to acknowledge the
sovereignty of God. Why do you suppose that is? Could it possibly be that if he acknowledges God’s
sovereignty as clearly and explicitly taught in Scripture then he must also admit that he is not in
control; that he does not save anyone (contrary to what he repeatedly states); and that he will be held
accountable for all the things he has done that are contrary to the word of God. Could these be the
possible reasons?
At the end of the day, only Steven Anderson can answer as to why he rejects the clear teaching of
Scripture regarding the sovereignty of God. We should pray that he would reflect on these passages of
Scripture, and seriously and honestly ask himself these questions.

Part 2B: Who is Jesus?


He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

As important as a right understanding of the Triune God is, it is equally important to have a biblical
Christology, a biblical understanding of Jesus. According to Scripture, Jesus is, among other titles and
positions: The Mighty God, Son of God, Son of David, Son of Man, Truly God and Truly Man,
Creator, Redeemer, Savior, Mediator, Messiah, the Branch, the Lamb of God, the Cornerstone, our
High Priest, Lawgiver, Judge, the Shepherd, I AM, Wonderful Counselor, the Way, the Truth, the Life,
the Author of life, the Alpha and Omega, the Blessed and only Potentate/Sovereign, and The Word.
Each of these titles and positions of Jesus have significant meaning to His followers. When He called
Himself “I AM” we understand that to mean He was calling Himself God. When He is referred to as
“the Lamb of God” we understand that to mean He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins; and when He is
called the Creator, we understand this to mean it was Jesus (along with the Father and the Holy Spirit)
who spoke and created the universe and everything in it. But how are we to understand when Jesus is
called the Word?
Steven Anderson looks at John 1:1, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God” and as a King James Version literalist he understands this passage to mean that
Jesus was/is the Bible, or, more accurately, he believes the Bible is actually Jesus, and is actually God.
Not the book itself, but the words contained within the book.38
In one of his online sermon videos, Steven Anderson holds up his Bible and preaches to his
congregation saying, “This book is Jesus. … Jesus is the book! ‘In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. Without
Him’...oh, I’m sorry, ‘all things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was
made.’ And then we read down that great passage and John said in John 1:14 where God says, ‘and the
Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory,’ we looked at Him, ‘as of the only
begotten of the Father.’ Who did we look at? The Word of God. Who created the world? Jesus Christ,
the Word of God. …Jesus Christ the written Word of God who became the living Word of God.”39
In a video clip Anderson uploaded to his YouTube channel on January 17, 2009, he is shown holding up
his Bible and emphatically proclaiming to his congregation, “Behold your God! This is God! Let me
introduce you to God!...hey, I’m not worshiping a physical book, this is a book, nothing. But you know
what?” He then points at the Bible and yells, “THOSE WORDS ARE GOD! Believe it or not. Call me
a heretic, call me whatever you want, I will preach that until I am breathing my last breath!”40
And on April 27, 2018, just over nine years after posting the previous clip, Steven Anderson posted a
clip from a different sermon where he says the same thing. Jesus is the Word, the Bible is Jesus, the
Bible is God! Again, not the physical book, but as Anderson himself put it, “The words in the Book are
God.”41
He taught this in 2009 and he was still teaching it less than a year ago, and there have been no videos
posted by Steven Anderson that would indicate he no longer believed this, therefore we must accept
that he continues to believe this doctrine.
Anderson’s doctrine of the deification of the words of Scripture carries with it some significant
problems though. If the words of Scripture actually are God, then one would expect Anderson and his
followers to worship them, yet they do not. If the words of Scripture are actually God Himself, then:
Does that not give those who wield those words have divine power themselves?
Why would God allow Himself to even be wielded by sinful man?
If they are Jesus, then Jesus is both within the Father and the Holy Spirit as God, as well as the man
Jesus, and now, according to Anderson, the very words found on the pages of a Bible; and, knowing
Steven Anderson, the King James version of the Bible specifically. But which version of the King
James Bible? Which of the twenty-three different versions of the Authorized King James Version that
have been printed between 1611 and 1904? Of these almost two dozen different versions, many contain
obvious mistakes, such as the 1611 “Judas Bible” which reads, “Then cometh Judas with them unto a
place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder” in
Matthew 26:36; or the 1631 edition which states the seventh commandment as “Thou shalt commit
adultery”; or the 1717 edition which contains the “Parable of the Vinegar” in place of the “Parable of
the Vineyard” in Luke 20.
And, of course, the original 1611 King James Version contained the Apocrypha as well.42 Will Steven
Anderson hold to the belief he has clung to and preached for at least the past decade, that the words
contained within the Authorized King James Version of the Holy Bible are in fact, actually God
Almighty, actually Jesus Christ Himself?
When one takes into consideration the fact that these various editions of the King James Bible with all
of the various errors in them, have been fairly common knowledge for the past few centuries; coupled
with the fact that Steven Anderson has continued to teach his deification of the words of Scripture in
the King James Bible without publicly renouncing the various “error editions” of the King James Bible
– then one can only conclude that Steven Anderson accepts not only all the various errors that have
crept into the King James Bible over the years, but also the Apocrypha as contained in the original 1611
edition, as being actually God and actually Jesus Christ.
Of course, there exists another possibility, a more reasonable and probable possibility; which is that
Steven Anderson is wrong. Very wrong.
Scripture states in John 1: 1-3 reads, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and
without Him was not anything made that was made.” When we continue on in verses 14-18, we can
clearly see that the “Word” which John is referring to is actually Jesus, and John’s use of the the term
“Word” tells us a great deal about Jesus.
Compare John 1:1 with Genesis 1:1. Both start with the same three words, “In the beginning.” In
Genesis we read that when God created the heavens and all that are in them, Scripture says He spoke
everything into existence. Psalm 33:6 tells us, “By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and
all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.” As with Genesis 1 and creation, we also see a
correlation between Psalm 33:6 in the first chapter of John, verse 3, “All things were made by Him; and
without Him was not any thing made that was made.” And, in verse 10, we see again, “the world was
made by Him”. This is reiterated throughout the New Testament in Acts 3:15; 1 Corinthians 8:6;
Colossians 1:15-17; and Hebrews 1:2. These passages confirm that God made the universe and
everything in it, and God created everything through Jesus.
We also see through many other passages that God employs His word throughout the earth to execute
His will (see Psalm 33:6; 107:20; 119:89; 147:15-18; Isaiah 55:10-11). We also see in Genesis 15:1-5
where the Word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision, and also brought Abram out of his tent in
order to show him the stars as an illustration regarding his descendants. These passages all serve to
demonstrate that when God talks, He does so through the Son, the second person of the Godhead,
Jesus.
Jesus is the conduit through which God imparts revelation to the prophets, through which God spoke to
man, through which God accomplished creation. Jesus is God the Son, the second person of the Triune
Godhead, and He is also the Word of God, who came to earth as a human being. He is not, however, the
words of Scripture. He is the author of Scripture, but not Scripture itself. To deify Scripture is to create
an idol, and that is precisely what Steven Anderson is doing with this doctrine of his.
The insufficient death of Jesus

Steven Anderson also claims the death of Christ on the cross, the shedding of His blood, in not
sufficient to provide an atonement for our sins. In fact, Anderson claims there are at least six things that
Jesus must do in order to gain us entry into heaven.43 The six things are:

1. He had to be born,
2. He had to die on the cross,
3. He had to be buried,
4. He had to go to hell for three days and three nights and be a burnt sacrifice in the fire of hell,
5. He had to rise from the dead, and
6. “He had to enter the Holy of Holies in heaven, as the High Priest, and sprinkle the blood on the
mercy seat seven times.”
Anderson states that until Jesus completes these six tasks, we cannot enter heaven. Apparently, He
sprinkled the blood on the mercy seat when He entered heaven, as Anderson goes on to say, “He’s still
up there making intercession for us, the blood is still on the mercy seat. It still speaks better things than
that of Abel.” And he also places the sprinkling of the blood on the mercy seat BEFORE telling the
apostles the great commission, and “then He has to ascend up into heaven.”44
This convoluted doctrine of Steven Anderson not only has no biblical support, but is actually contrary
to Scripture. We are not saved by anything other than the grace of God. Period. Grace alone. Period.
This is what Ephesians 2:8 clearly says. “For by grace are ye saved.” This same verse also tells us that
faith is the conduit through which God’s grace is imparted to us. “For by grace are ye saved through
faith; and that is not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.” But faith in what? Faith in Jesus Christ and
His death on the cross as making the necessary atonement for our sins.
Romans 3:23-26 states, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; being justified freely
by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to be a
propitiation through faith in His blood, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are
past, through the forbearance of God; to declare, I say, at this time His righteousness: that He might be
just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” [emphasis added] [cf. 1 John 2:2; 4:10]
Jesus Christ is, through the shedding of His blood, and His death on the cross, the propitiation for the
sins of the whole world; through faith in His blood, His propitiatory act on the cross, we receive
remission of sins and are made righteous and able to enter into the presence of God in heaven. His
burial does not provide this, He resurrection does not provide this, His ascension does not provide this,
and Anderson’s own added requirement for our entrance into heaven: that Jesus must sprinkle blood
seven times on the mercy seat in heaven, certainly does not provide this. The shedding of His blood and
His death on the cross provides the propitiation, and nothing else, according to the Scriptures. (See
Hebrews 9:22; 10:10; Galatians 3:22)
In short, Steven Anderson is teaching the blood of Christ shed at His death for the remission of sins is
insufficient. Even though Romans 3:23-26 clearly and explicitly teaches that it is sufficient, and is the
only acceptable sacrifice for the propitiation of our sins, Steven Anderson simply thumbs his nose at
the Word of God (both the written and the Living) and adds to what Scripture teaches, even to the
adding of his own personal and unbiblical beliefs.
Steven Anderson claims that in order for us to be able to enter heaven, in addition to other requirements
he has added, he claims Jesus must first enter into the Holy of Holies in the temple in heaven, and
sprinkle blood on the mercy seat seven times. This is not taught in Scripture. Anywhere. In order to
come up with this teaching, Anderson must combine Hebrews 4:14-10:18 with Leviticus 16:11-14. The
problem is, however, this is like adding 2+2 and coming up with 5.
Hebrews 4:14-10:18 explains Jesus is our High Priest, He is a High Priest in the order of Melchizedek,
and He is a High Priest of a better covenant from the previous covenant of the Old Testament. It
explains the earthly tabernacle and temple were an example and shadow of things to come, and that
Jesus’ sacrifice was a better and a permanent sacrifice as opposed to the sacrifices of the previous
covenant. But nowhere does this lengthy passage say anything about Jesus entering the Holy of Holies
in heaven where He sprinkles blood on the mercy seat seven times.
The closest anything in the New Testament comes to this is in Hebrews 9:11-28, within which we read,
“But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle,
not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but
by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.”
(vv11-12). Christ, our High Priest, has entered into a tabernacle that is great and more perfect that the
one on earth; and “by His own blood He entered in once into the holy place,” but no where does it say
He entered the Holy of Holies in heaven and sprinkles His blood on the mercy seat. Anderson has to get
that from Leviticus 16:11-14.
Leviticus 16 explains the sacrifices for the High Priest and the people on the Day of Atonement. The
sacrifice detailed in verses 11-14, the sacrifice which includes sprinkling the mercy seat seven times
with blood, is the sacrifice for the High Priest. Not for the people. It serves to atone for the sins of the
High Priest for the next year. Following Steven Anderson’s teaching, he clearly has Jesus sprinkling the
blood of the sacrifice (which would be His own blood) on the mercy seat, and the sacrifice that
provided that blood serves to atone for the sins of only the High Priest. Therefore, Steven Anderson is
teaching that Jesus died to atone for His own sins and for no one else. To say that Jesus was sinful is
blasphemy. To say that His atoning sacrifice did not provide atonement for anyone other than Himself
is also blasphemy.
Going back to Hebrews 9:11-28 for a moment, we see again that it is Jesus’ blood and the sacrifice of
Himself that redeems our sin and purchases our salvation (vv 14-15,26). We also see that the Holy
Place into which Jesus enters is not some heavenly tabernacle or temple that is like unto those that were
one the earth which were nothing more than shadows and types of heaven. Not a temple with a holy
place and a holy of holies that is in heaven, and certainly not one built by human hands, but rather
heaven itself is God’s temple. For what does the Scripture say? “But Christ being come an high priest
of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say,
not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once
into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.” (vv11-12) “For Christ is not entered
into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to
appear in the presence of God for us” (v24).
The temple where God dwells is heaven itself. The Holy of Holies were God dwells is heaven itself.
Steven Anderson’s fictional accounting of what Jesus must do in order for those He has redeemed to
enter into heaven is just that: total fiction. Nothing more and nothing less. It is completely unbiblical, it
is blasphemous heresy; and, by teaching this doctrine, he is teaching a different gospel, a false gospel,
and he is leading his congregation and his internet followers straight down into hell if they are unsaved,
and into a stagnant and ineffective witness for those who are saved.
What About The Resurrection?

We have already established that it is Jesus’ atoning death on the cross – and nothing else, that redeems
us as the propitiation for our sins. (Romans 5:11; Mark 10:45; 2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 Peter 2:24; Isaiah
53:5; John 10 spec. vv 17-18) But what of the resurrection? If it is not one of the steps necessary to
achieve salvation, then what it is for? What does the resurrection accomplish? The answer to that is
quite a bit! For instance:
1. His resurrection proved that He overcame death, and thus is indeed the Son of God, that He is truly
Divine. “Concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to
the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the
resurrection from the dead” (Romans 1:3-4); because it was not possible for death to maintain its hold
on Him (Acts 2:24). (See also 1 Corinthians 15:55-57; 2 Timothy 1:10; Revelation 1:18)
2. His resurrection serves as a guarantee of our justification. Note, however, His resurrection did not
accomplish our justification, His death did that; but rather it serves as an assurance to us that we are
fully justified by His sacrificial death on the cross. 1 Corinthians 15:17 states, “And if Christ be not
raised, your faith is faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.” And in Colossians 2:14 states, “Blotting out
the handwriting of of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the
way, nailing it to his cross.” (cf. Romans 4:25; 8:11) The penalty for our sins has been paid in full, and
accepted by God Almighty. (See also 1 Corinthians 15:1-21)
3. His resurrection guarantees that we serve a living Savior. It assures us that he is interceding for us.
“Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God the justifieth. Who is He that
condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God,
who also maketh intercession for us.” (Romans 8:33-34; Hebrews 7:25).
4. His resurrection guarantees that we are raised up to a new life, as well as guaranteeing our
resurrection. Paul wrote, “For we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, we shall be
also in the likeness of His resurrection. Knowing this, that our old man is cruicified with Him, that the
body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.” (Romans 6:5-6); and “But
now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came
death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all
be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at
his coming.” (1 Corinthians 15:12-58, specifically vv20-23 here). (See also Romans 8:11; Philippians
3:20, 21; Ephesians 2:4-6; Colossians 3:1-4; 1 Peter 1:3-5)
Therefore, when Steven Anderson and others in the New IFB Movement teach that Christ’s
resurrection is necessary to secure our salvation, they are demonstrating that they either do not possess
even a rudimentary understanding of the death, atonement, burial, resurrection and ascension of Jesus;
or, they do, and they are intentionally misleading their followers.
This brings us to one of the more troubling of Steven Anderson’s doctrines of Jesus, that of His burning
in hell for us.
On the Necessity of Jesus Burning in Hell For Our Salvation

In 2014, Steven Anderson sat down with Dr. James White and ostensibly interviewed Dr. White. Near
the end of the interview, Anderson and Dr. White were discussing hades, gehenna, and hell. While Dr.
White tried to explain to Mr. Anderson that according to the clear teaching of Scripture hell is currently
unpopulated, while hades contains those souls who have died in their sins and did not possess the free
gift of salvation. Steven Anderson insisted that Jesus went to hell for three days and three nights.

Anderson derives this doctrine from Matthew 12:40, which reads, “For as Jonas was three days and
three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of
the earth.” and Acts 2:31, “He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul was
not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.” The word translated “hell” in Acts 2:31 is the
Greek word “hades,” which is the abode of departed spirits. This is not some new understanding of the
word, but rather the same understanding of this word that has always been, and Anderson knows this,
or, at least he should since he claims to know Greek, and claims to have read the New Testament cover
to cover in Greek multiple times.45
Therefore, Anderson must also understand that hades, the abode of departed spirits, is divided into two
sections or compartments. In the one are those departed spirits who died in their sin, and in the other
are those who died in faith. Note that this is not heaven and hell. This is hades. While some may be
inclined to close their minds at this point, just read a little further to understand why I say this.
The best description we have of hades and the two compartments or sections within it, is the story of
the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31. Both die and their departed spirits enter hades (the abode
of departed spirits). If you will look at verse 23, you can see that the rich man is in hell. This is
translated from the same Greek word hades that we see in Acts 2:31. In reading verses 23-24 of Luke
16, we see the rich man lifting up “his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and
Lazaarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus,
that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.”
Abraham answers him in verses 25-26, reminding the rich man that he had a great life on earth and
Lazarus a horrible life on earth, and now the roles are reversed. He goes on to explain to the rich man,
“And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from
hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.”
Did you notice that the rich man could see Abraham and Lazarus, and they could see him, and a
conversation took place between the rich man and Abraham. Therefore, this cannot be heaven and hell,
as in heaven, “there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be anymore
pain” (Revelation 21:4). Do you really believe that those in heaven will be able to look down into the
depths of the earth and see people, possibly their loved ones and friends in eternal torment, and not
experience sorrow, not cry, not be in emotional pain? Do you really believe that once in heaven we will
be able to look down on those in eternal torment and care one bit? Not likely.
Furthermore, in Revelation 20:13-14 we see see that at the great white throne judgment, where the
wicked will be judged by God before being cast into hell for all eternity, hell delivers up the dead in it,
and after the judgment hell is cast into the lake of fire (also commonly known as hell). In both verse 13
and 14, the word hell is translated from the Greek word hades. Common sense should tell you that hell
giving up the dead within it, so they can be cast into hell, and then hell itself is destroyed by casting it
into hell makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Is God the God of confusion? No! (1 Cor.14:33)
It makes perfect sense to understand this as hades, the abode of departed spirits gave up the dead within
it, and was later cast into the gehenna (the lake of fire) and destroyed, while the wicked dead were
themselves cast into gehenna where they will suffer eternal torment. This makes more sense because
this is the correct understanding, which has been the position of the Church for the past 2,000 years.
When those who die in their sins – such as the rich man, they are cast into one compartment of hades
where they are in torment; and those who die in faith were sent into another compartment of hades
known as Abraham’s Bosom, or Paradise, where they are comforted.
We read also read about this in Luke 23:42-43, when the thief on the cross says to Jesus, “Lord,
remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.” and Jesus tells him, “Verily I say unto thee, today
shalt thou be with me in paradise.” Comparing this to Matthew 12:40 and Acts 2:31, we can easily and
clearly see that Jesus was not cast into hell upon death. He and the thief entered hades, into that part of
hades known as Paradise, or Abraham’s Bosom. Incidentally, the other thief, the one who continued to
curse and mock Jesus, likely entered into that compartment of hades reserved for those who died in
their wickedness, just like the rich man.
The lowest section of that area of hades where the spirits of the wicked dead have been temporarily
consigned is known as tartarus, and it is mentioned only once in all of Scripture – 2 Peter 2:4. Again,
since Steven Anderson claims he knows Greek and has read the New Testament in Greek, cover to
cover multiple times, he is fully aware of this. Tartarus is also known as “the abyss,” and is the
habitation of those angels “which kept not their first estate, but left there own habitation,” and as a
result, God “hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.”
(Jude 6). These are the angels who are mentioned in Genesis 6:1-7, who “saw the daughters of
men...and took them wives of all which they chose. ...and also after that, when the sons of God came in
unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of
old, men of renown.” As a result, God destroyed the earth with a worldwide cataclysmic flood, sparing
only Noah, his family, and the creatures on the ark.
“For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into
chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the
eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; … the
Lord knoweth how...to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished” (2 Peter 2:4-5,9).
It is this same deep abyss that demons are afraid to go, begging Jesus not to send them there (see Luke
8:31); and it is this same deep abyss where Jesus went during those three days and three nights before
His resurrection. “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring
us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and
preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of
God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were
saved by water.” (1 Peter 3:19-20; cf Ephesians 4:8-10)
Remember now, Steven Anderson claims to know Greek, and claims to have read the New Testament
cover to cover in Greek multiple times, so one would naturally assume he know all of this already. Yet,
he continues to insist that Jesus spent three days and three nights burning in hell; and not just burning
in hell, but being burned up as a burnt sacrifice in order to be an acceptable sacrifice to the Lord for our
sins.
Now, we have already learned, from the very clear and explicit teaching of Scripture, that it was Jesus’s
shed blood and death on the cross that made atonement for our sin. Not His burial, not His resurrection,
not His ascension, but His shed blood and death on the cross is the acceptable sacrifice for our sin, that
made atonement for our sin, that was the propitiation for our sin. Regardless of the clear and explicit
teaching of Scripture, or perhaps in spite of the clear and explicit teaching of Scripture, Steven
Anderson teaches it’s not enough. It’s acceptable to God, but not to Steven Anderson. No, because
Steven Anderson insists that Jesus must also be a burnt sacrifice in order to be a God ordained sacrifice,
a sacrifice acceptable to God; because, he reasons, all sacrifices are burned, all offerings are burned,
and the Passover lamb is roasted.46
As we have already seen, again in the very clear and explicit passages of Scripture, God looked upon
Jesus’ shed blood and death on the cross as an acceptable sacrifice. That was all that was necessary as
an acceptable sacrifice to God; and, that is all that was necessary to atone for our sins. Steven Anderson
says no, Scripture is wrong, God is wrong, but he is right. That is not all that Steven Anderson is wrong
about, because when he says all sacrifices are burnt and all offerings are burnt he is wrong.
There were five types of offerings in the Old Testament, and they can be divided up into two categories.
The first are the burnt offerings which are to be completely and totally consumed by fire, and the
second are all the rest of the offerings which are only partially burned on the altar and the unburned
portions are eaten. The obvious question to Steven Anderson is does he believe Jesus was totally and
completely consumed in the fires of hell to the point where there was nothing left of Him; or, that He
was only partially consumed by the fires of hell, with the rest of Jesus eaten by someone or something?
Perhaps by cannibalistic demons? Perhaps by Roman Catholics during their mass? Which is it Mr.
Anderson?
If Steven Anderson is telling the truth when he claims that he knows Greek and that he has read the
New Testament in Greek, cover to cover, multiple times, then he is fully aware of the meanings of
hades, and tartarus, and gehenna. If he is telling the truth, then why does he ignore that which he claims
to know is true? Why teach something to his congregation and his followers something which he
knows is not true? Why would he intentionally mislead them? Steven Anderson has actually given the
answer to this numerous times over the years when he has disparaged those who understand biblical
Greek and Hebrew, and the numerous times he has spoken against referring to the original languages of
Scripture. The answer is because he has a blind adherence to and faith in a specific translation of the
Bible, that he rejects the Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew manuscripts upon which that translation is based
on.47 This view of his can best be described as “KJV-olatry.”
Well, that, or, he is simply having a 1 Corinthians 2:14 moment.
Steven Anderson’s false and heretical view that Jesus’ shed blood and death on the cross is insufficient
to atone for our sins leads us to wonder about the view of salvation held by Steven Anderson and his
New IFB Movement.

Part 2c: What is the Gospel?

What must I do to be saved?


What is the gospel? 1 Corinthians 15:1-8 provides both the gospel: “1 Moreover, brethren, I declare
unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2
By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in
vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins
according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to
the scriptures”, and the evidence which supports the gospel as true: “5 And that he was seen of Cephas,
then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the
greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James;
then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.”
This is the truth that saves. When Scripture tells us to believe and be saved, or believe on the Lord
Jesus Christ and be saved, we are to believe in what the gospel tells us to believe in: that Jesus died for
our sins according to the Scriptures; that Jesus was buried and rose again on the third day according to
the Scriptures. This is reiterated in Romans 10:9, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord
Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” And
make no mistake, all that is necessary is for one to believe. Nothing else is required. This does,
however, beg the question, “What is meant by ‘believe’?”
The word “believe” in Romans 10:9 is translated from the Greek word pisteuó, a verb, which means
believing or persuaded. The context of the verse indicates one is in the process of believing due to
being persuaded by the Lord. In verse 10, the word “believeth” is translated from the same Greek word.
Therefore, the passage can be understood as, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
being persuaded by the Lord and believing in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou
shalt be saved. For the Lord persuades the heart of man that he may believe unto righteousness; and
with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
The word pisteuó is also translated “faith,” indicating the two words, in this case, are interchangeable
when understanding this passage. Faith, or as in Romans 10:9-10 “belief” is never self-generated, but is
a gift from God. As Ephesians 2:8 notes, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God,” noting also Galatians 5:22-23 which lists the fruit of the Holy Spirit
(which the Spirit produces in the believer): “love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
meekness, temperance”, both indicating faith/belief which leads to salvation (pisteuó), is from God and
not ourselves. All of which serves to demonstrate that salvation does not require any works of any kind.
In short, as Romans 10:9-10 clearly states, if you believe, you will be saved. In this Steven Anderson is
absolutely correct. Neither repentance nor anything else is necessary for salvation.
That being said, however, belief (pisteuó) is not simply an intellectual assent to facts. As James notes,
“Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.” (James
2:19). While an intellectual assent to the facts is an integral part of true saving belief, equally necessary
is an intellectual awareness of the reality of Christ’s substitutionary atonement on the cross. One must
know – not guess, not perhaps, not maybe, but possess a certainty that Jesus actually and truly died on
the cross as the penalty for our sins, and was raised back to life by God three days later.
There is also a third aspect of saving belief, and that is a personal commitment of trust in Jesus because
of His substitutionary atoning death on the cross for our sins, and His resurrection which proves He is
who He claimed to be, and therefore our trust is not misplaced.
So while Anderson is completely correct when he says nothing else other than belief is necessary or
required for salvation, saving faith/belief is much more complicated and involved then he would have
us believe. Just mentally acknowledging that yes, Jesus died for my sins, and with that mental
acknowledgment reciting the sinner’s prayer does not save anyone. The idea that simply reciting the
sinner’s prayer while possessing nothing more than a mental acknowledgment of the facts of the gospel
is known as “easy-believism” and is wholly unbiblical.
Anderson responds to such criticism by saying, “The Bible is very clear that believing on the Lord
Jesus Christ is the only prerequisite for salvation. Yet today we find those who believe this truth from
the Bible being labeled as believing in ‘Easy-Believism.’ I plead guilty. I do believe that it is easy to be
saved and that it is easy to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.”48
He explains that when sharing the gospel he uses a version of the “Roman’s Road” method which he
has modified himself, placing “strong emphasis on eternal security.”49
The “Roman’s Road to Salvation” has been used for years by Christians to lead unbelievers to the Lord
Jesus where they can (and hopefully will) decide to follow Jesus. It consists of several verses, all from
the Book of Romans, which begin with mankind’s hopeless condition, and ending with God’s promise
to maintain and persevere His followers. It generally involves 8 passages (or “signposts along the
Roman’s Road”). They are:
1. Romans 3:10, 23, “There is none righteous, no not one...For all have sinned, and come short of the
glory of God.”
2. Romans 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ
our Lord.”
3. Romans 5:8, "But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ
died for us.”
4. Romans 10:9-10, “For if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thine heart
that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Fo rwith the heart man believeth unto
righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
5. Romans 10:13, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
6. Romans 5:1, Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus
Christ.”
7. Romans 8:1, “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, who walk
not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”
8. Romans 8:38-39, “For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor
powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be
able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
According to Steven Anderson, the “Roman’s Road” that he takes people down goes like this:
“1. Every one is a sinner (Rom 3:10, Rom 3:23)
2. Everyone deserves to go to Hell (Rom 6:23, Rev 20:14, Rev 21:8)
3. Jesus died on the cross for us so we could be saved (Rom 5:8, I Pet 2:24)
(At this point I go through the events of the cross, the blood, the death, burial, and resurrection)
4. You must believe on Jesus Christ as your only way to Heaven (Acts 16:31, John 3:16)
5. When you believe on Jesus Christ, God gives you eternal life (Rom 6:23)
(At this point I use the illustration of receiving a gift and explain eternal security in detail)
Then, to wrap things up, I ask the person 4 questions:
1. Do you believe that you have sinned?
2. Do you believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for YOUR sins and rose again from the dead?
3. If you were to ask Jesus to save you right now would he do it?
4. How long would you be saved for?
If the person confidently answers these questions correctly, I then say,
‘Let's pray together right now, and I will help you ask Jesus to save you.’
Most of the time people who have listened to the whole gospel and understood it are very willling to
pray and trust Christ as their saviour. I then lead them in a prayer something like:
‘Dear Jesus, I know I am a sinner, and I know I deserve to go to Hell. But I believe that you died on the
cross for my sins. Please save me and take me to Heaven when I die. I'm only trusting you, Jesus.
Amen.’
“I then talk to them about baptism as the first step of obedience and about the importance of coming to
church.
“This is the process I go through virtually every day out door-to-door soul-winning.”50
Did you notice a difference between the standard Roman’s Road and Steven Anderson’s Roman’s
Road? Not only does Anderson add verses that have more to do with his condemnatory style of
evangelism, than with leading an individual to salvation (i.e. Rev. 20:14, “And death and hell were cast
into the lake of fire. This is the second death.” & Rev. 21:8, “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the
abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolators, and all liars, shall have
their part in the lake with burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”), but he leaves
out an important signpost on the Roman’s Road, and that is Romans 8:1 (signpost #7 above),
“Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the
flesh, but after the Spirit.”
Although Anderson does not provide any specific comments as to why he chose to ignore this verse, it
is distinctly possible that he leaves it out because it disagrees with his personal beliefs. You see,
Romans 8:1 contains a caveat – a warning or proviso of specific stipulations, conditions, or
limitations,51
and Steven Anderson does not like caveat’s attached to the gospel. Yet, Romans 8:1 does contain such a
stipulation. Notice the passage again, “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in
Christ Jesus,” which is great news indeed, but the verse continues, “[those who are in Christ Jesus] who
walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” The “no condemnation” promise applies only to “those
who are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” And not only is this a
stipulation, but the stipulation is one of repentance, a word – a doctrine, that Steven Anderson and his
clones absolutely loathe because they believe repentance is a work and thus a different gospel, a false
gospel.52
The problem with Anderson’s position is that it is not true. He has created an anti-repentance doctrine
in his mind, and he teaches it to his followers, and it is based on nothing more than his
misunderstanding of what repentance actually is. When he preaches and teaches his anti-repentance
doctrine, he uses four premises to do so. The first is that the term repentance, the doctrine of
repentance, is not something that can be easily understood. “Repent of your sins to be saved. Nobody
even knows what it means! You talk to ten different people you get ten different definitions.” He claims
that teaching repentance does nothing but cause confusion, and therefore we can know it is a false
doctrine.53
He then manipulates his followers into believing that repentance for one’s sins is not a biblical
teaching. He does this by saying, “But here’s the thing about that phrase, ‘repent of your sins’, it’s
never found in the Bible,”54 and he repeats this statement throughout many of his online videos.
Anderson sounds authoritative when he makes this claim, and it is technically true that the four words,
“Repent Of Your Sins” appear nowhere in the Bible in that particular order; it is, however, incorrect to
say that the Bible never teaches that we are to repent of our sins, because it actually does teach this, and
it teaches it over and over and over again.
The third premise is rooted in Anderson’s misunderstanding of the word. He simply doesn’t know what
the word “repent” means. Throughout several of his videos, Anderson defines “repent” as meaning
nothing more than “turning or changing,” with the identify of the thing turning or changing being
determined by the context of the passage.55
Anderson attempts to convince his followers and others to trust his teaching regarding this, as he claims
to “know Greek.” When asked if he did, Anderson replied, “Yeah, I do know Greek. I’ve read the New
Testament cover to cover in Greek multiple times.” The gentleman asking Anderson then said, “So,
metanoia means...” Anderson then cut him off saying, “It’s not even pronounced metanoia.” He was
then asked, “How would you pronounce it?” To which Anderson said, “It’s metanoeó” (which he
pronounced “Meta-nee-oh”).56
Anderson explains that according to Scripture, repentance simply means turning or changing. He says
the context within which the word is used, determines what exactly is turning or changing. He gives the
following example, “when God repents He’s not repenting of His sin, because God doesn’t have any
sin. God is perfect in every way, yet the Bible records God repenting more than anyone else in the
whole Bible. He frequently repents in the Bible. What is He changing? Is He changing who He is? No.
is He changing His character, is He changing His nature? No. God said, ‘I change not.’ But what He
does change is His course of action. Where He says He was going to do one thing, but then you did this
so now I’m changing courses, now I’m gonna do this. So God will change His course or direction
based upon man.”57
Anderson’s fourth premise is his re-defining what the word repent means. According to Anderson,
repentance from sin means to stop sinning completely, to go from being a sinner to sinless perfection.
He teaches that when a person repents of a particular sin, then that person has completely stopped
committing that particular sin altogether. He argues, “Repent means to turn. So, if you have to repent
from your sins to be saved, then that would be like you have to stop sinning to be saved.”58
He goes on to say, “Whether it be lying, stealing, whatever, they tell them they have to repent of a
sinful life. Now look, which sins do they think you have to repent of to be saved? ‘Cause I don’t know
about you, but I have not repented of all my sins ‘cause I’m not perfect. And the Bible says, ‘if we say
that we have no sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.’ No one in here can say, ‘I’ve made
my heart pure from sin.’ Nobody in here can say, ‘I’ve turned from all my sin.’ And people say, ‘You
know I repented of my sin and believed on the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior.’ You know, which sins
did you repent of? ‘Cause if you’re gonna tell me you repented of all of them, you’re a liar, is what you
are! And let me tell you something, repenting of your sins is a daily thing. Salvation’s not a daily thing.
Salvation’s a one time thing. You must be born again. The Bible didn’t say born again, and again, and
again, and again. The Bible says you must be born again. You believe on Christ, and in a moment, in a
twinkling of an eye you are saved, you are regenerated, you are passed from death unto life, you are a
child of God. Now look, after that you’re still gonna sin! Every single person in this room has sin in
their life. No one is perfect, myself included. And so therefore, if we had to turn from our sins to be
saved, no one would be saved!”59
Anderson’s concludes that, based on his understanding of repentance, “people should repent of their
sins after they are saved, but whether or they do or don’t, they are still saved.”60
But this is not what repentance means. In the New Testament, there are three words which are
translated as “repent.” They are the verbs metamelomai and metanoeó, and the noun metanoia.61

The first of these words, metamelomai, means to regret, to experience a change of concern and emotion
to regret, contrition, and remorse after the fact. It is used in the New Testament of a persons regret and
remorse over their sin.62
The second of these words, Metanoeó, means a change of one’s mind. Not simply to change one’s
mind, as in “I think I will turn left instead of turning right,” or as in this case, “I think I will no longer
embrace sin, but will change my mind and reject sin.” Metanoeó (as also with metanoia) means more
of a changed mind than a changing of one’s mind; to think differently after the fact, to feel sorry that
one has done something they should not have. It used especially of those instances where one becomes
consciously aware of their sins, and as a result they experience genuine sorrow, contrition, and
abhorrence of their sin, and they are intent upon receiving God’s forgiveness for their sin. And, this is
not something that man is able to do in and of himself, just as man is unable to generate true saving
faith/belief in and of himself, it is a gift of God, lest any man should boast.63
The third word, metanoia, also refers to a change of one’s mind, and particularly those who experience
a change of mind coupled with an abhorrence and sincere sorrow and contrition of their sins. 64
To understand the absolute necessity of repentance in the life of the Christian, it is necessary to have a
proper understanding of sin. The word translated “sin” in the New Testament is translated from the
Greek word hamartia (hah-mar-tee-ah), which literally means missing the mark, or failing to hit the
mark, or a failure to measure up to the mark. Biblically it refers to a failure to keep the law, a failure to
obey God, a failure to abide by God’s morality, etc. In other words, a failure to be righteous. And this is
exactly how Scripture defines sin. 1 John 5:17 teaches us that “All unrighteousness is sin,” and 1 John
3:4, “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”
Romans 14:23 tells us “...whatsoever is not of faith, is sin” which teaches us that even in Christian
liberty, those things which are not done in faith, are themselves sin.
Clearly then, sin permeates the lives of every single person, both saved and unsaved. The difference
between the two, however, is that Christians are no longer slaves to sin, while the unsaved continue to
be shackled to their sins. The baptism a believer undergoes is an outward symbol of an inward reality.
As Romans 6 teaches us, when we are baptized, we are baptized in Jesus Christ and into His death (v3).
Just as He was buried in tomb, we too were covered as if buried; and just as He rose again “by the
glory of the Father” so we too arose up out of the water (just as we will arise at the resurrection) (v4).
“For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, we shall be also in the likeness of
His resurrection: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be
destroyed that henceforth we should not serve sin.” (vv5-6).
Did you catch that? Verse 4 tells us that we are to walk in newness of life, and verses 5-6 tell us that as
Christians “we should not serve sin.” This is repentance. It is not simply turning or changing, but as
already explained, it is a change in our minds that brings with it sorrow, contrition, and abhorrence of
sin. As born again Christians we are dead to sin (v11), we are not to let sin reign over us, nor obey it
(v12), we are not to yield to it as instruments of unrighteousness (v13), sin has no dominion over us
(v14), we have been delivered from sin (v17). Unless…
If a person is still living in persistent, habitual, unrepentant sin, yielding themselves to sin as an
instrument of unrighteousness, then know this, “that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his
servants ye are to whom ye obey” and if you have yielded to sin, never repenting, remaining an
instrument of unrighteousness, then it is “unto death” (v16), “For the wages of sin is death” (v23). Not
that you can lost your salvation, because you cannot. However, one who refuses to repent, believing
they do not have to repent, and can still live in unrepentant sin, yielded to sin as an instrument of
unrighteousness, a servant of sin, well, that person was never saved in the first place. Or, to be more to
the point as it relates to this article, they have been thoroughly deceived by someone who has taught
them that repentance is not necessary. That you maybe should, but even if you don’t as long as you
believed a certain set of facts and repeated the sinner’s prayer, then you are guaranteed heaven no
matter whether you repent or not.
Sorry, but Scripture disagrees with that. Now that you know the truth, you can either continue to follow
that same false teacher that is leading to eternal damnation, or you can repent and run to Christ begging
Him to forgive you, and then live as His servant, not the servant of sin.
“But wait,” the one resisting repentance may say, “we are saved by grace! We are no longer under the
law!” Sigh. There’s one in every crowd. No. No. No. Go back and re-read Romans chapter six again.
The apostle Paul has already answered this objection of yours. “What shall we say then? Shall we
continue in sin, that grace may abound? God Forbid! How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer
therein?” (vv1-2); and, “What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace?
God Forbid!” (v15) Don’t forget, you who desire to remain an unrepentant servant of sin, “the wages of
sin is death!” (v23) and the sin to whom are a servant will pay you in full!
This does not mean a person must stop sinning in order to be saved. That is a strawman employed by
Steven Anderson and other New IFB pastors in an attempt to deceive their followers and keep them
from Christ. While we are here in a fallen world, in a fallen body, continue to have to deal with sin. But
that isn’t the point. When a person is born again, regenerated by God, indwelt by the Holy Spirit, that
person becomes a new creation in Christ Jesus! They are given the gift of faith, of belief, and of true
biblical repentance. They are a new creation, no longer a slave of sin, but a servant of God!
The doctrine of repentance is found throughout Scripture, even though the word itself is not always
used. In the Old Testament we it is such passages as 2 Chronicles 7:14, “If my people, which are called
by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways;
then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” Here we see
forgiveness of sin dependent upon repentance of sin (“turning from their wicked ways”).
Jeremiah 4:14 demonstrates the need for repentance in order to stay God’s wrath: “Circumcise
yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of
Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of
your doings”, and in Jeremiah 4:14 we also see the absolute necessity for repentance among God’s
people: “O Jerusalem, wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved. How long shall
thy vain thoughts lodge within thee?”
And this is repeated over and over throughout the Old Testament: “For thus saith the high and lofty
One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that
is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the
contrite ones.” (Isaiah 57:15) – Only those who are humble and of a contrite heart (repentant) will be
with God.
“The face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth and delivereth them out of all their troubles. The Lord is nigh
unto them that are of a broken heart: and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. (Psalm 34:16-18) – The
Lord is with those who are of a broken heart and contrite spirit (repentant).
“To this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.”
(Isaiah 66:2) – Who does the Lord look to? The one who is poor with a contrite spirit (repentant).
“The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.”
(Psalm 51:7) – Again, the one with a “broken and contrite heart” (repentant) the Lord will not turn
away.
“Seek ye the LORD while He may be found, call ye upon Him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake
his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD; and he will have
mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.” (Isaiah 55:6-7) – The Lord will
abundantly pardon those sinners who first forsake their wicked ways and thoughts. It is the same theme
repeated over and over again: exercise faith by believing in Christ (which is initially expressed through
repentance) and be saved.
And we see the exact same thing flowing from the Old Testament right into the New Testament. Look
at Luke 3:3 where John taught repentance for the remission of sins, and in Luke 15:1-7 where we read
the parable of the one lost sheep versus the ninety-nine sheep who are not lost, and in verse seven Jesus
states emphatically, “I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth,
more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.” This is repeated in Luke 15:8-
10 and the parable of the lost piece of silver, where Jesus says in verse 10, “Likewise, I say unto you,
there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.”; and again in Luke
15:11-32 with the parable of the prodigal son, who, in verses 18 and 21 realizes and admits that he has
sinned and in repentance he begs his father for his forgiveness for his sins.
Throughout the entire fifteenth chapter of Luke the biblical doctrine of repentance for sin is clearly
brought forth, and it culminates in the following chapter, Luke 16, in verses 19-31, and the story – not
parable but rather presented as an actual event – of the Rich Man and Lazarus the Beggar. Both die, and
the rich man dies finds himself in hell (Hades), while Lazarus is taken to Abraham's Bosom (paradise).
The rich man has several brothers who are just as sinful as he was, and he asks Abraham to please send
Lazarus to warn them lest they too die in their sins and end up in hell. Abraham tells him no, they have
Moses and the prophets to warn them. The rich man answers Abraham and says, “Nay, father Abraham:
but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.”
We can also look at Acts 8:22 where the Apostle Peter announces “Repent therefore of this thy
wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.” And in
Revelation chapters 2 through 3 where Jesus tells the churches at Ephesus, Smyrna, Thyatira, Sardis,
and Laodicea all to repent of their sins.
Although Steven Anderson repeatedly says, “You will never find the words ‘Repent of your Sins!’
anywhere in the Bible”, he is simply wrong. As we have seen both the words and the teaching are
clearly and explicitly taught throughout Scripture. (see also: Matthew 4:17; Mark 1:14-15; Mark 6:12;
Luke 3:2-4; Luke 13:1-5; Luke 17:3-4; Luke 24:46-47; Acts 2:36-38; Acts 3:19; Acts 11:18; Acts
17:30; Acts 26:20; 2 Corinthians 7:10-11; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Hebrews 6:1; 2 Peter 3:9).
As we have seen, Anderson’s definition and understanding of repentance (simply to change or turn) is
neither accurate nor biblical. A biblically accurate definition of repentance is a change of one’s mind
which results in sincere sorrow, regret, and remorse (contrition) over sins committed, inherited,
imputed; as well as a general abhorrence of sin.
But what about those passages where God repents? Obviously God cannot repent of sin, as He has no
sin. Nor can it be said that God truly repents in the same sense that we repent, as the Prophet Samuel
notes in 1 Samuel 15:29, where he says of God, “And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent:
for He is not a man, that He should repent.”
When the biblical writers wrote about God repenting of something, it usually refers to three types of
situations. The first is when God promises to repent of the evil (or disaster or calamity) He has
promised to do to a group of people of they repent of their wickedness and sin (such as in Jeremiah
18:8-10), this is speaking of God’s promise to judge a people based on their actions. If they continue in
their sin, they will be judged by God and punished, if they repent, they will be judged by God and
blessed. This is what God has said to us as well. But it does not refer to God needing to repent of a sin
of His own. Sometimes, such as in Genesis 6:6 and Exodus 32:14, God’s “repenting” refers to His
grieving over the sin of man, but not His own sin. And the third type of situation where God states He
will not repent, such as in Psalm 110:4 and Ezekiel 24:14, refers to those situations where has ordained
something to happen, and He will not change His mind regarding it.
As 1 Samuel 15:29 notes, God is not a man, and thus does not “repent” in the same sense that man is
called to repent by God. God is perfect and incapable of doing sinful, evil, wickedness (see Psalm 5:4-
5; James 1:13; 3 John 1:11; Leviticus 11:44–45; 19:2; 20:7; and 1 Peter 1:15–16). Note: when we see
references to God causing or creating evil in the Bible, this refers to calamity or disaster. Not
wickedness.
The result of Steven Anderson’s doctrine of no repentance is antinomianism, which is just a big word
that essentially means “no law.” In practice, antinomianism leads to living in sin – persistent, habitual,
unrepentant sin, with the person subscribing to Anderson’s antinomian teaching thinking that since they
are under grace and not under the law, no repentance is ever really necessary (because, hey, they have
said the prayer and now cannot lose their salvation), so why change? Why turn from sin? The answer to
this, as we have already seen, is that those who possess no desire to turn from the sin, no desire to
repent of their sin, no desire to obey God’s repeated commands to repent of their sin, have nothing to
do with God. Nothing. They are not saved, they are not children of God. This is not a case of they have
lost their salvation, but rather they were never saved in the first place.
Scripture tells us, “3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He
that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are
in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.” (1 John
2:3-6)
“15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of
the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes,
and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the
lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.” (1 John 2:15-17).
“29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.”
(1 John 2:29)
“4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And
ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in
him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7 Little children, let no
man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He that
committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of
God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth
not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 In
this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not
righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” (1 John 3:4-10)
“22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those
things that are pleasing in his sight. 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the
name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 24 And he that
keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in
us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.” (1 John 3:22-24)
“1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat
loveth him also that is begotten of him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we
love God, and keep his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his
commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 4 For whatsoever is born of God
overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 Who is he
that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?” (1 John 5:1-5)
“18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth
himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.” (1 John 5:18)
[Emphasis added]
Did you catch all of that? If you are saved, you do not live in persistent, habitual, unrepentant sin. If
you do live in persistent, habitual, unrepentant sin, then you are not saved. It’s really very simple.
While no one has to repent to become saved, those who do not repent are not saved. Never have been.
Steven Anderson has lied to you friend. He has lied to you in order to keep you away from the one true
God, and keep your eyes fixed on him and on the false god of no repentance that he has been preaching
to you. Again, as Scripture says, “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are
of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” (1 John 4:1; cf 1 Peter 2:11)
The result of Anderson’s no-repentance, antinomian gospel is also seen in the “soul-winning” he does.
According to Steven Anderson, during the first 12 years of his church 27,797 people were saved as the
direct result of “soul-winning” efforts made by Anderson and his church.65
That averages out to almost 200 people per month – an impressive number. But where are they? They
are certainly not in Anderson’s church, nor in any other church in the greater Phoenix, Arizona
metropolitan area. Certainly some of them have been attending some of the churches in the area, but
there has not been an influx of almost 28,000 new Christians into those churches over the 12-year
period referred to by Anderson. Had there actually been almost 28,000 people saved, regenerated by
God, possessing a changed mind, a changed nature, living for God, they would be in church,
worshiping their Creator each and every Lord’s Day. But they aren’t, and the reason for this is, they
were never saved in the first place. Anderson and those trained to employ his techniques have been
lying to these people for more than a dozen years. As we have seen, Anderson’s “soul-winning”
practice consists primarily of getting the “gospel according to Anderson” out to the person as quickly as
possible, get them to repeat the sinners prayer, and then move on to the next house or person.
In fact, actually taking the time to explain the gospel and answer any questions a person may have, is
considered a sign of a heretic and a false prophet according to New IFB pastor Manly Perry. In a
telephonic interview, Pastor Perry said that long drawn out explanations of the gospel are used by false
prophets and heretics to obscure the pure gospel. Pastor Perry claims that 10-minutes is a good “target
goal” for sharing the gospel with someone. When “soul-winning,” Perry says, “just get in there and if
God opens their heart like Lydia (Acts 16:14) then great. But don’t focus on answering a bunch of
questions. We’re out looking for low hanging fruit, and when you drag it out people become
disinterested. You need to just get in there and get it done and move on to the next person. You know,
I’m not gonna go on a five minute explanation of what the Trinity is.”66
This “get in, get it done and move on” type of evangelism accomplishes very few actual conversions,
especially when it is combined with Anderson’s no need to repent, you can live in sin gospel
presentation. And this is exactly what happens. When asked why those who are allegedly “won”
through “soul-winning” efforts don’t attend church, Pastor Manly Perry explained by saying, “ain’t got
no peanut butter.” Perry explained this simply means “one excuse is as good as the next.”67
Steven Anderson gives several reasons why those who are saved during “soul-winning” efforts, such
as:
1. They go to other churches.
2. They are teen-agers.
3. A lot of people speak Spanish.
4. A lot of people live to far from a church.
5. Many people are too shy to go to church.
6. Some are afraid to go to church and so don’t go.
7. Some are handicapped and cannot go to church.68
These are not reasons. These are excuses, and they are very poor excuses at that. The reality is, of those
who claim to be saved by Steven Anderson and his church, the vast majority of them have no reason to
attend church, just as they have no reason to stop living in sin – because Anderson and his people have
told them they don’t have to. They are told they are saved and cannot lose their salvation no matter how
they live, no matter how gross or perverted their sin is. At the end of the day, thanks to Anderson and
his church, those whom they reach during their “soul-winning” efforts really have no reason to attend
church.
As we have seen, repentance is vitally necessary for salvation. Not to become saved, but to be saved. In
other words genuine biblical repentance for ones sin and abhorrence of sin in general, is a visible result
of regeneration. If there is no repentance, then salvation has not taken place. One cannot live in
persistent, habitual, unrepentant sin and be a Christian. Of course, Steven Anderson and other New IFB
pastors disagree with this, but they do so to their own destruction. As pastors they are responsible for
leading those in their congregation toward the Lord, not away from Him, and yet this is exactly what
they are doing by teaching and preaching a no repentance gospel. They are deceiving lost people into
believing they are saved when they are not. They are not true Christians, but rather pseudo-Christians.
Friend, open your eyes to the danger around you in the New IFB. Matthew 7:15-20 tells us, “Beware of
false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall
know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree
bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil
fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is
hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”
What are the fruits that have been brought forth by the New IFB Prophet, Steven Anderson? Some may
take exception to the title of Prophet for Steven Anderson, but it is a title he has proclaimed for himself.
Yes, Steven Anderson claims to be a prophet. Not only does he claim to be a prophet, but he claims to
have been personally chosen by God, thus placing him in the ranks of Moses, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Daniel,
Samuel, and others chosen by God to be prophets. In 2016 Anderson stated during a live radio
interview, “God has chosen me to be a prophet to the nations, to preach the word of God, and to sound
it out with no fear with boldness not like these preachers who are only interested in people's money so
they tell them what they want to hear for money. I don't want your money, I want to preach the truth;
you can like it or lump it.”69
In Easton’s Bible Dictionary, under the heading, “prophet”, we read, “(Heb. nabi, from a root meaning
"to bubble forth, as from a fountain," hence "to utter", Compare Psalms 45:1). This Hebrew word is the
first and the most generally used for a prophet. In the time of Samuel another word, ro'eh , "seer",
began to be used (1 Samuel 9:9). It occurs seven times in reference to Samuel. Afterwards another
word, hozeh , "seer" (2 Samuel 24:11), was employed. In 1 Chronicles 29:29 all these three words are
used: "Samuel the seer (ro'eh), Nathan the prophet (nabi'), Gad the seer" (hozeh).
The "prophet" proclaimed the message given to him, as the "seer" beheld the vision of God. (See
Numbers 12:6 Numbers 12:8.) Thus a prophet was a spokesman for God; he spake in God's name and
by his authority (Exodus 7:1). He is the mouth by which God speaks to men (Jeremiah 1:9; Isaiah
51:16), and hence what the prophet says is not of man but of God (2 Peter 1:20 2 Peter 1:21; Compare
Hebrews 3:7; Acts 4:25; 28:25). Prophets were the immediate organs of God for the communication of
his mind and will to men (Deuteronomy 18:18 Deuteronomy 18:19).”70
So Steven Anderson is claiming to be the mouthpiece of God, speaking to men that which God has
revealed to him, speaking for God, and “beholding the vision of God.” Is this where Anderson received
his clairvoyant powers? Yes, Steven Anderson also claims to possess clairvoyant powers, the ability to
see into the future. In a blog article written by Anderson titled, “My Wife Zsuzsa,” dated March 11,
2013, Anderson states, “A few things to keep in mind: although I had obviously felt an attraction to her
the first time I met her, and I even had a premonition that I might marry her on Wednesday afternoon of
the week that I met her, I was definitely not in love with her because I still barely knew her.”71
A premonition is defined as “A clairvoyant or clairaudient experience, such as a dream, which
resonates with some event in the future.”72 This would be in keeping with Anderson's claim that he is a
prophet chosen by God. According to Anderson, he met his wife on October 4, 1999,73 which was a
Monday. Therefore, if Anderson's prophetic premonition was correct, they should have been married on
October 6, 1999. Instead, they were married almost a year later on August 13, 200074 (which by the
way, was a Sunday, and not a Wednesday).
One would think that a prophet chosen by God, to the nations, would not be prone to false premonitions
and predictions such as this. One would also think that a prophet chosen by God would possess the
spiritual gift of discernment. Remember, as a prophet he is speaking for God, therefore it is reasonable
to believe that God would ensure a high degree of discernment. Yet, with Steven Anderson we do not
see this. For example, on August 26, 2014, Prophet Steven Anderson ordained Donnie Romero, sending
him out to Fort Worth, Texas to start a New IFB church.75 Yet, less than five years later in January
2019, Romero is forced to resign his pastorship due to moral failure.76 Why was Anderson unable to
discern this ahead of time?
On March 27, 2016, Anderson ordained Tyler Baker as a deacon in his church,77 with the intent to
have Baker start a church, Valiant Baptist church, in Jacksonville, Florida within 90 days of his
ordination.78 By June 27, 2017, however, Anderson had fired Baker, accusing him of being a oneness
pentecostal heretic,79 of cheating on his time sheets,80 and of stealing money from Anderson’s
church.81
On September 14, 2016, Under Steven Anderson’s supervision, Faithful Word Baptist Church Deacon,
Tyler Baker, ordained Garrett Kirchway.82 It was Anderson’s intention to send Garrett Kirchway to
Botwanna, Africa that very month, where Kirchway would start two satellite churches from Anderson’s
Faithful Word church. These would be Faithful Word Baptist Church – Botswanna, and Faithful Word
Baptist Church – Malawi (Africa).83 Anderson spoke highly of Kirchway, saying “If a man is going to
be sent out as an evangelist or a missionary, to go out and preach the gospel and baptize and see people
saved and see a church established, that man must be trained and sent out of a local church and serve
first and be found faithful in the local church, not just be sent out without knowing who he is. …
Churches are to be started by men of God who have been trained and tested and tried in the local
church, and we need to stay with this biblical model that we see in Acts 13 and many other places, that
leaders are identified, trained, and sent out of a local church. ...Brother Garrett Kirchway is one who is
not a novice. He's not a newbie. He has been faithful. He knows the Bible. He knows what he's doing.
He's mature in the faith.”84
The following month, October 2016, saw Garrett Kirchway marrying his wife, Neo, with pastor and
prophet Steven Anderson officiating the wedding. During the ceremony Anderson said, “Garrett is a
very godly man. I’ve known Brother Garrett Kirchway for a little over 8 years now, and I’ve gotten to
know him very well. … He’s very dedicated to the service of the Lord. … I don’t really know what the
future holds for Garrett and Neo, but I know, that according to the Bible, God’s gonna bless them and
keep them. … [Garrett is a] man of God. … We know that all things work together for good for people
like Garrett and Neo, people who love God, people who are called according to His purpose. … I don’t
know exactly what the future holds for Garrett and Neo, but you know what? I know it’s gonna be
amazing. I know it’s gonna be great. Because these are two godly people who want to dedicate their
lives to serving the Lord, and they want to be in missions, they want to win people to the Lord in the
uttermost parts of the earth. And I don’t know what’s gonna happen, they don’t know what’s gonna
happen, but you know what? I know one thing for a fact is they’re gonna succeed, that God’s gonna
bless them, and that great works are..it’s gonna be exciting! It’s going to be something that’s we’ll look
back on years later, and I think that Garrett and Neo will be able to say like the song says, ‘Jesus led me
all the way.’”85
On May 27, 2018 – almost two years later, and after Steven Anderson had know his good friend Garrett
Kirchway for a decade, Anderson kicked Kirchway out of his church as well. Garrett Kirchway, whom
the self-proclaimed prophet Steven Anderson said was “trained,” “tested,” and “found faithful.” Garret
Kirchway, whom Steven Anderson claimed, “is not a novice. ...not a newbie. ...has been
faithful. ...knows the Bible. ...knows what he's doing. ...[and is] mature in the faith.” Garret Kirchway,
whom Steven Anderson called a “godly man” and a “man of God” who would be blessed by God, was
suddenly kicked out of Steven Anderson’s church, while Anderson himself stood in the pulpit and
vilified his good friend of the past ten years, calling Kirchway a heretic, gutless, a coward, screaming
that he made Anderson sick and that he was not welcome in Anderson’s church, claiming that
Kirchway had stabbed him in the back, mocking Garrett’s disabled wife, and boasting that it only took
him thirty seconds to fire his good friend and kick him out.86 Both of Anderson’s African church plant
attempts failed as well.
Was all of the glowing admiration Steven Anderson heaped on Garrett Kirchway and his wife Neo
nothing more than empty platitudes? Was Anderson simply lying when he claimed Kirchway was a true
mature man of God? Was the man who claims to be a prophet chosen by God unable to discern that he
good friend of ten years was not a Christian? And how good a friend is Steven Anderson when he will
turn on a good friend and attack both him and his wife; and how good of a pastor is Steven Anderson
when he would rather publicly vilify and expel a long time member of his congregation for believing
wrong doctrine, rather than taking the person aside and instructing him and gently renewing him as
Scripture requires? No shepherd chosen and called by God to pastor a church, treats God’s children in
such a manner.
On October 16, 2016, pastor and prophet Steven Anderson ordained Richard Miller, and sent Miller
and his family out to Nashville, Tennessee to start Soul-Winning Baptist Church.87 Less than three
months later Miller and his family walked away from the church and away from the New IFB. On
January 5, 2017 Anderson wrote in his blog that Miller had quit and the church had been disbanded. He
stated he did not know why Miller and his family left. And, while he asked for prayers for those who
were members of Miller’s church, expressing concern they might become discouraged and quit
attending church altogether, he did not ask for prayers to be said on behalf of Richard Miller or his
family.88
In perhaps the most egregious example of both a complete lack of discernment and an equally complete
lack of leading by and fellowship with God, is Steven Anderson’s partnership with and endorsement of
Paul Wittenberger, who, as we have already noted earlier in this article, supports a Hindu Ashram in
California, and a Hindu commune in India, through the sale of Hindu vedic health care items on his
Framing the World website. As we have already seen, Steven Anderson endorses this, promotes this,
and encourages people to purchase the items Wittenberger sells on his website, which includes the
Hindi vedic products; and Anderson and his wife both sell their own items on the Framing the World
website as well.89
Ironically, Steven Anderson once said, “it just blows my mind how people lack discernment”.90
It is even more mind blowing that Steven Anderson, a man who claims to be a prophet chosen by God,
has such a complete lack of discernment, and that people allow themselves to be taken in and blatantly
deceived by such a man.
Perhaps Steven Anderson’s lack of discernment has also caused him to add works to the gospel of Jesus
Christ. For all of his rhetoric regarding repentance being a work that is added to salvation, he is unable
to grasp the simple truth that repentance is an exercise of the heart and the mind, just as belief is. In
other words, if repentance is a work, then so is belief, because they both involve the regenerated heart
and mind of the believer. If something requires a physical action, however, then there is no doubt that it
can be considered a work. If someone claims baptism is necessary to become saved, then that is adding
a physical action – a work. And this is exactly what Steven Anderson does. He adds physical actions as
requirements for salvation and forgiveness.
For instance, in a 2014 interview with James White, Steven Anderson states that salvation is dependent
upon which Bible version you understand. He explained to Dr. White that those who prefer versions
other than the King James version are not saved. Thus, according to Anderson, one must read and
understand the King James Version of the Bible.91 A strong case could be made that based on this
requirement Anderson himself would be excluded.
In addition to this, Anderson has also taught that at least in one instance, as determined not by God, but
by Steven Anderson himself, certain people would be required to perform penance in order to receive
forgiveness and be admitted to Christian fellowship. In a sermon titled “Sheba the Son of Bichri (Adam
Fannin Exposed)”, which Anderson delivered on January 9, 2019 and posted to his personal YouTube
channel on the same day, Anderson claimed that Christians who stood against his decision regarding a
church other than his own, and choose instead to stand with the man who had been pastoring their
church since it’s inception (Anderson decided to step in and install his own choice for pastor in their
church, without their input and without regard for their desires), were by the decree of Anderson’s man,
to be removed from Christian fellowship. Anderson then decreed that if they want to be readmitted to
Christian fellowship and participation in corporate worship of God, repentance and seeking forgiveness
is not enough. According to Steven Anderson they must also create a video denouncing the man who
had been acting as their pastor since their church started, renouncing their support of him, and beg –
yes beg – to be let back in; and then they must post that video in a public forum such as YouTube.92
Apparently this does not simply hold true for Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist church and the Stedfast
franchise of New IFB churches pastored by Anderson’s man, Jonathan Shelley; as Pastor Manly Perry
of Old Path Baptist Church in San Antonio, Texas as also expressed if any of those who disagreed with
Anderson tried to attend his church in Texas, he would throw them out immediately, and would only let
them partake in Christian fellowship in his church if they made the video as required by Steven
Anderson.93
Friends, to say that one must read and understand a specific translation of the Bible in order to be saved
is nothing less than works based salvation; and requiring a specific action, a work, such as begging and
video making, in order to be forgiven and allowed to participate in Christian fellowship and corporate
worship of God is nothing less a form of penance – very much like the penance required by the Roman
Catholic church. Unbelievable. One wonders if in addition to begging, Anderson might also require
them to kiss his New IFB papal ring as well.
As Jesus said in Matthew 7:15-10, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth
forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their
fruits ye shall know them.”
What kind of fruit does Steven Anderson and his New IFB have? Let’s review:
1. He has moved from teaching modalism to teaching tri-theism.
2. He endorses Hinduism and encourages his congregation to purchase Hindu related items.
3. He claims to be a prophet chosen by God, yet prophecy/premonition was shown to be false.

4. He has repeatedly demonstrated a complete lack of discernment regarding false Christians, not only
bringing them into his church, but ordaining them and placing them in positions of authority over his
congregation.
5. He teaches and preaches a false gospel of no repentance, antinomianism, and easy-believism.
6. He adds to the gospel by implementing works.
7. He adds to the gospel by teaching and preaching that sometimes repenting and seeking forgiveness
isn’t enough, but penance must be performed as well.
Throughout this series of articles we have learned that Steven Anderson and the New IFB is anything
but Christian. With the constant lying, deceit, dishonesty, unbiblical doctrines, unbiblical teachings, and
a false gospel, Steven Anderson’s New IFB is at best a pseudo-Christian group and at worst a cult. The
spiritual abuse and pulpit bullying, coupled with the coercion and manipulation certainly lead one to
think they are more a cult than anything else; and the self-proclaimed prophet Steven Anderson is
nothing more than just another false prophet. Based on the Old Testament law Anderson himself likes
to rely on point to as his justification for much of his hatred, he himself is now eligible for the death
penalty. The irony of this should not be lost on anyone. Just as Anderson and the other New IFB leaders
rail about homosexuals, adulterers, and rebellious children all deserving the death penalty as based on
the Old Testament Levitical Law, Anderson himself is now condemned as well through that same
Levitical Law, thus placing him in the same category as homosexuals, adulterers, and rebellious
children.
Our sincere prayers should be for the repentance and salvation of Steven Anderson and those in the
New IFB who subscribe to his false doctrines and false gospel.

Sources:
Part 2a
1. Paster Steven Anderson’s Churches:
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Tempe, AZ 85282
http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/page6.html

Faithful Word Baptist Church - North


Tucson, AZ 85719
http://fwbcnorth.org/index.php/doctrinal-statement/

Faithful Word Baptist Church – El Monte


El Monte, CA 91733
http://fwbcla.org/index.php/doctrine/

2. Pastor Manly Perry’s Church:


Old Path Baptist Church
Adkins, TX 78101
http://www.oldpathtxb.church/Home/AboutDoctrine

3. Pastor Aaron Thompson’s Churches:


Sure Foundation Baptist Church – Vancouver, Washington
Sure Foundation Baptist Church – Vancouver, BC, Canada
www.surefoundationbaptist.church
www.veritybaptistvancouver.com

4. Pastor Roger Jimenez’s Church:


Verity Baptist Church – Sacramento, California
Verity Baptist Church – Boise, Idaho
https://veritybaptist.com/what-we-believe/

5. Pastor Jonathan Shelley’s Churches:


Pure Words Baptist Church
Houston, TX 77085
www.purewordsbaptist.com

Stedfast Baptist Church – Fort Worth, Texas


www.stedfastbaptistkjv.org
Stedfast Baptist Church – Jacksonville, Florida
www.stedfastjacksonville.com
Stedfast Baptist Church – Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
www.stedfastokc.com
6. Word of Truth Baptist Church
Prescott Valley, Arizona
http://www.wordoftruthbaptist.org/doctrine
(Pastor Steven Anderson)

7. Video: "Using the Right Words" Baptist Preaching (independent, fundamental, KJV), published to
YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 21 October 2014, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=ooFMs-oYIfY accessed 01 March 2019

8. Video: Pastor Steven L. Anderson Teaching That Jesus is God the Father, published to YouTube by
Valiant Baptist Church (Tyler Baker), on 01 March 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=9erDCE7ekmA accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Pastor Steven Anderson Says Jesus is The Father, published to YouTube by James Owens on 26
July 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRD8AGSQSEA accessed 01 March 2019

Video: More Evidence - 2nd Sermon where Anderson Taught that Jesus is the Father, published to
YouTube by Timotheus on 02 July 2017, taken from a sermon on Isaiah 9, preached by Pastor Steven
Anderson on 04 June 2008 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqQGvQrTk54 accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Trinity Moment #31 - "I Have One Father, Jesus Christ", published by Elliott Ray on 26
September 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PMXemxe6kQ accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Pastor Steven Anderson Jesus is the Father and Not Just One in Spirit, published to YouTube by
James Owens published on 08 March 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IgKap9Nd_4
accessed 01 March 2019

Video: "Bastard Barry" - Sermon about Barrack Hussein Obama (KJV Bible Preaching), published to
YouTube and to the Faithful Word Baptist Church website on 02 November 2014 by Steven Anderson.
Though Anderson repeatedly claims he is being taken out of context, his exact words (taken from a
sermon transcript on his church website) were: “He's not my brother in Christ. He's not my brother
from another mother. He's my brother from another father because his father is the devil and my father
is Jesus. My father is Jesus and he is not of the Lord Jesus Christ.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxQHiGgFQ2A
http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/transcript_bastard_barry.html
accessed 01 March 2019

Video: PROOF Steven Anderson and “The New IFB” Preached That Jesus is the Father, published to
YouTube by Valiant Baptist Church (Tyler Baker) on 01 June 2018. It features several examples of
New IFB pastors teaching that Jesus actually is the Father (modalism).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYpStvSCGcs&feature=youtu.be
accessed 01 March 2019

Video: He Which is of God Hath Seen the Father, published to YouTube by Elliott Ray on 13 May
2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVP-Fn3rT3M accessed 01 March 2019

Video: The Madness and Folly of Steven Anderson, published to YouTube by Elliott Ray on 12 May
2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UIriYgX--c accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Trinity Moment #26 - God Speaking to Himself, published to YouTube by Elliott Ray on 26
April 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGfDVKUDhTs accessed 01 March 2019

9. Telephonic interview #02 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member Kris Byrne, 30 January
2019

10. Video: Dr. James White Full Interview NWO Bible Versions, published to YouTube by Framing the
World (Paul Wittenberger) on 11 August 2014, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJrptikLjq8
accessed 01 March 2019

11. Video: Oneness Pentecostal Heretic Checklist by Pastor Donnie Romero - Stedfast Baptist Church
(TX), published to YouTube by Banned From THE NEW IFB on 11 January 2019,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxw1rZLZ1_Q accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Pastor Donnie Romero - Luke 23, published to YouTube by Ex Andersonite on 05 March 2018,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JrXmbbXcHk accessed 01 March 2019

12. Video: Pastor Manly Perry - Jesus was John's Cousin and Father, published to YouTube by Ex
Andersonite on 16 March 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8L6MCTXZnA accessed 01
March 2019

Video: Pastor Manly Perry - 3 Person Trinity is not Biblical,


Published on 01 March 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzWokYptRPo accessed 01 March
2019

13. Video: Trinity Moment #23 - The Son is the Father, featuring David Berzins, published to YouTube
by Elliott Ray on 24 April 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSI7BxezJ3g accessed 01 March
2019

14. Video: The Trinity Spectrum (Pastor Roger Jimenez | VBC Sacramento, CA), published to YouTube
by Verity Baptist Church (Roger Jimenez) on 03 July 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=fKwPJl4jgo8 accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Trinity Moment #28 - Jesus is the Son and the Father, featuring Roger Jimenez, published to
YouTube by Elliott Ray on 03 May 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YckVVy5wRfI accessed
01 March 2019

15. Video: Jonathan Shelley: Hypocrite Extraordinaire, featuring Jonathan Shelley, published to
YouTube by Elliott Ray on 07 March 2018, in this video, Shelley teaches that Father, Son and Holy
Spirit are “all the same person.” “You have to believe that Jesus is God and the Father is below Him, or
they're the same person.” “You can't say that verse is true (Rev.19:16) and say that Jesus isn't God, or
that Jesus isn't the Father.” “The word God actually means ruler.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YJZrzA39KE accessed 01 March 2019

Trinity Moment #37 - Jesus and the Father Are the Same Person, featuring Jonathan Shelley, published
to YouTube by Elliott Ray on 17 January 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIyZBtSe78
accessed 01 March 2019

16. Telephonic interview #01 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler
Baker, 24 January 2019

Telephonic interview #02 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler Baker,
06 February 2019

Telephonic interview #03 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler Baker,
09 February 2019

Telephonic interview #04 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler Baker,
12 February 2019

Telephonic interview #05 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler Baker,
27 February 2019

Telephonic interview #02 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member Kris Byrne, 30 January
2019

Video: What I Believe About the Godhead, published to YouTube by Rick Martinez on 30 January
2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jP2dOIeCn8 accessed accessed 01 March 2019

17. Video: Pastor Anderson confronts Tyler Baker on Oneness Heresy, published to YouTube by
Kragen Clan dotcom on 26 October 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyIrVpoxS1M accessed
01 March 2019

Video: Angry Steven Anderson vs. Tyler Baker, published to YouTube by Fellar Davis on 01 November
2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IItGUaI8c9Q accessed 01 March 2019
18. Video: I Reject Modalism/Oneness Pentecostalism! - Tyler Baker, Valiant Baptist Church, published
to YouTube by Valiant Baptist Church (Tyler Baker) on 04 March 2018,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqE7rUzjuzA&feature=youtu.be accessed 01 March 2019

19. Video: "Trinity 101" (Throwing Out Oneness Heretics),published to YouTube by sanderson1611
(Steven Anderson) on 27 May 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=R0ZxB8_VsrY&feature=youtu.be accessed 01 March 2019

Telephonic interview #01 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler Baker,
24 January 2019

Telephonic interview #02 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler Baker,
06 February 2019

Telephonic interview #03 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler Baker,
09 February 2019

Telephonic interview #04 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler Baker,
12 February 2019

Telephonic interview #05 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler Baker,
27 February 2019

Telephonic interview #01 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member Kris Byrne, 25 January
2019

Telephonic interview #02 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member Kris Byrne, 30 January
2019

Telephonic interview #03 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member Kris Byrne, 06 January
2019

20. Video: My Belief on the Trinity Hasn't Changed, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven
Anderson) on 01 March 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ4_kkdMrPY accessed 01 March
2019

21. Video: Take Me Out, published to YouTube by Elliott Ray on 16 May 2018,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrNw8JkFCFA accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Steven Anderson “I'm always right even when I'm wrong!”, published to YouTube by Steven
Anderson Be Lying FWBC on 17 May 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ_5fCviNbU
accessed 01 March 2019

22. Video: "Bastard Barry" - Sermon about Barrack Hussein Obama (KJV Bible Preaching), published
to YouTube and to the Faithful Word Baptist Church website on 02 November 2014 by Steven
Anderson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxQHiGgFQ2A
http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/transcript_bastard_barry.html
accessed 01 March 2019

23. Video: I Never Believed/Taught Oneness Doctrine (Modalism), published to YouTube by


sanderson1611 (Steve Anderson) on 28 June 2017. In the comments section, an individual named
CassieRae McMurtry (actually Cassandra McMurtry, the wife of New IFB pastor Tommy McMurtry
and good friend of Steven Anderson) commented, “When you scour through hours and hours of
preaching, things will be found that were mis- spoken by the preacher. The key is admitting, "I
misspoke". (not doubling down and getting stubborn about your words) My husband has said things
mistakenly before. And he has also said he has to present the trinity better, because he never even knew
this oneness thing was "a thing", so he now needs to be even clearer on the subject.” To which
Anderson replied, “Exactly!” I have to wonder if Anderson put her up to this, or if she is just trying to
help a friend. At the end of the day, however, no, he did not misspeak. According to Merriam-Webster's
Dictionary:
Definition of misspoke:
transitive verb
1 : to speak (something, such as a word) incorrectly
2 : to express (oneself) imperfectly or incorrectly claims now that he misspoke himself
intransitive verb
: to speak incorrectly : misspeak oneself
Either Anderson mispronounced a word (doesn't fit here), or he imperfectly explained something
(doesn't fit here), or, he lied. Bingo! He lied. He taught false doctrine regarding the Trinity, from the
pulpit, at least four times! He may have it correct on his websites statement of beliefs, but coming out
of his mouth to his congregation it was certainly incorrect, and heretical to say the very least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paDX-lpeJQI accessed 01 March 2019

24. email made public by Victor Tey in the following YouTube video: Response to Pastor Steven
Anderson (Part 3) - The Church in Punchbowl History & Doctrines, published to YouTube by The
Church in Liverpool (Victor Tey) on 01 August 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk6vi12tVts
accessed 01 March 2019

25. Video: Modalism is Stupid, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 24


December 2017. Interestingly, in this video Anderson cites Proverbs 30:4 as a Trinity proof text, while
in the video “Trinity Talk” (see below)) he explicitly denies that Proverbs 30:4 is a Trinity proof text,
and corrects Donnie Romero who tried to point to it as such. At about 3:30 in this video, Anderson
states that Jesus has always been a man, a human man, because Jesus never changes and is the same
yesterday, today, and tomorrow. This must have come as a surprise to His mother, Mary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZGsj5DyxIU accessed 01 March 2019

Video: God Confounding Heretic Steven Anderson “Trinity Talk”, published to YouTube by Whole
Armour Ministries on 03 March 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im1VR713mTw accessed
01 March 2019

Video: Biblical Bible Broadcast-Trinity Talk, published to YouTube by mstamps1611 on 05 March


2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAjXOEY5iTI accessed 01 March 2019. Note: The original
video, “Trinity Talk” which had been uploaded by Stedfast Baptist Church (Donnie Romero’s church)
on 02 March 2018 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWjquj2fNLI], was removed from YouTube,
and is no longer available, However, before it was taken down, it was downloaded and reposted on the
Marshal Stamps 1611 YouTube channel (mstamps1611).

Video: Isaiah 9:6 Taken out of Context by Modalists, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven
Anderson) on 27 August 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6taKnJLN9g accessed 01 March
2019

26. Video: Pastor Roger Jimenez Clarifies his Trinity teaching, published to YouTube by Mike
Harrison on 09 March 2018. When Anderson began dealing with the Tyler Baker situation and those
who also believed the oneness doctrine that Anderson and the rest had been teaching, it quickly became
necessary for them to change their beliefs in order to justify expelling Tyler Baker and the rest. This
includes Roger Jimenez, who in the following video falsely claims (just as Anderson did in his video),
that he and Verity Baptist Church have NEVER believed in oneness/modalism, when clearly, that is
exactly what he taught as shown in the previously noted videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=0ofLLVK0v0A accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Trinity Moment #25 - God is Not Three Persons, featuring Manly Perry, published to YouTube
by Elliott Ray on 26 April 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2ufxtSYBWw accessed 01
March 2019

Video: The Oneness of God | Preached @ Morning Star Baptist Church, published to YouTube by
brothermanly316 (Manly Perry) on 17 July 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApPX0pQ3ETQ
accessed 01 March 2019

27. Telephonic interview #01 with former Faithful Word Baptist Church member & Deacon Tyler
Baker, 24 January 2019

28. Video: Steven Anderson Believes Polytheism, Calls it the Trinity | Tyler Baker is a Trinitarian |
Baptist, published to YouTube by Valiant Baptist Church (Tyler Baker) on 18 October 2018,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcrPEO0iglY accessed 01 March 2019
Video: "Trinity 101" (Throwing Out Oneness Heretics), published to YouTube by sanderson1611
(Steven Anderson) on 27 May 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=R0ZxB8_VsrY&feature=youtu.be accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Jesus is the Express Image of God the Father's Person, published to YouTube by sanderson1611
(Steven Anderson) on 28 May 2018. In this video, Steven Anderson claims Jesus looks exactly like the
Father in his outward appearance. He says when God said, “Let us make man in our image” (Gen 1:26)
proves that all three have the same image. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are identical in their
outward appearance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swT11WsN4ms accessed 01 March 2019

29. Video: Sam Gipp is Demonic and Evil (hear it for yourself), published to YouTube by
sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 09 May 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=eQTVLK1xe4Q accessed 01 March 2019

30. Video: Steven Anderson Believes Polytheism, Calls it the Trinity | Tyler Baker is a Trinitarian |
Baptist, published to YouTube by Valiant Baptist Church (Tyler Baker) on 18 October 2018,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcrPEO0iglY accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Pastor Roger Jimenez Clarifies his Trinity teaching, published to YouTube by Mike Harrison on
09 March 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ofLLVK0v0A accessed 01 March 2019

31. Video: Trinity Moment #25 - God is Not Three Persons, featuring Manly Perry, published to
YouTube by Elliott Ray on 26 April 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2ufxtSYBWw
accessed 01 March 2019

Video: The Oneness of God | Preached @ Morning Star Baptist Church, published to YouTube by
brothermanly316 (Manly Perry) on 17 July 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApPX0pQ3ETQ
accessed 01 March 2019

32. Video: Pastor Joe Major: Trinity-Deniers Will Be Thrown Out, published to YouTube by
sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 29 May 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=K2zud6WUPDc accessed 01 March 2019

33. Video: "Sovereign" is Deceptive, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 31


May 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39qqDyJ1FRE accessed 01 March 2019

34. Ibid

35. Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language,


webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/sovereign

36. Easton’s Bible Dictionary, Third Edition, published by Thomas Nelson, 1897
37. Video: Attributes of God, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 24
September 2012, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB9gaM6Vzgk accessed 01 March 2019

Sources
Part 2B:
38. Video: Trinity Moment #35 - The Word Became Jesus, featuring Steven Anderson, published to
YouTube by Elliott Ray on 26 September 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA1Z7LN42yI
accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Trinity Moment #32 - The Written Word Became the Living Word, featuring Steven Anderson,
published to YouTube by Elliott Ray on 26 September 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=afCAONaM1ls accessed 01 March 2019

Video: "The Word" Is Not Just a Title for Jesus, featuring Steven Anderson, published to YouTube by
Elliott Ray on 24 September 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M33mLqjCj3I accessed 01
March 2019

Video: Jesus is the Word!! The Bible is God!! The Bible is Jesus!!, published to YouTube by
sanderson1611 (Steven Andeson) on 17 January 2009, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=9xKvdU0qgrs accessed 01 March 2019

Video: The Word of God and the word of God, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven
Anderson) on 27 April 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7_k6EU2O34 accessed 01 March
2019

Video: Steven Anderson says that the Bible is God Part 2 (New IFB), featuring Steven Anderson,
published by New IFBdot info on 17 September 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
time_continue=21&v=cCHhT8FZi-c accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Roger Jimenez: The Living Word IS the Spoken Word, featuring Roger Jimenez, published to
YouTube by Elliott Ray on 02 October 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiv2UaM8I7o
accessed 01 March 2019

39. Video: Trinity Moment #32 - The Written Word Became the Living Word, featuring Steven
Anderson, published to YouTube by Elliott Ray on 26 September 2018,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afCAONaM1ls accessed 01 March 2019

40. Video: Jesus is the Word!! The Bible is God!! The Bible is Jesus!!, published to YouTube by
sanderson1611 (Steven Andeson) on 17 January 2009, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=9xKvdU0qgrs accessed 01 March 2019
41. Video: The Word of God and the word of God, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven
Anderson) on 27 April 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7_k6EU2O34 accessed 01 March
2019

42. Steven Anderson and the New IFB pastors are King James Version Only. They believe only the
King James Version of the Bible is the preserved word of God, they believe it to be inspired, infallible,
and inerrant. What they cannot do, however, is reconcile that belief with the various errors that have
appeared in the KJV over the years, and they cannot reconcile their belief with which KJV? Do they
believe the 1611 authorized version of the King James Bible is the preserved, inspired, infallible,
inerrant word of God? Or do they believe it is the 1613 edition/version? Or the 1616, 1617, 1618, 1629,
1630, 1633, 1634, 1637, 1638, 1640, 1642, 1653, 1659, 1675, 1679, 1833, 1896, or the 1904
editions/version? Which one do they consider to the preserved, inspired, infallible, inerrant word of
God? Now bear in mind that the 1611 edition, the original edition of the KJV contained the apocrypha.
Does Steven Anderson and company then consider the apocrypha to be the preserved, inspired,
infallible, inerrant word of God as well? After all, it was included. And if not, then by what objective
standard to they exclude the apocrypha?
And what of the numerous errors throughout the years, such as Matthew 26:36 in the original 1611
Authorized Version which read, “Then cometh Judas with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and
saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.” Judas? Or the 1631 KJV which read
in Exodus 20:14, “Thou shalt commit adultery”? Is it safe to say then that Donnie Romero, the former
New IFB pastor who dallied with prostitutes was simply obeying the 1631 KJV? Or the 1653 KJV
which assures us in 1 Corinthians 6:9, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of
themselves with mankind,”? The verse from the KJV certainly does not fit in with New IFB beliefs
regarding homosexuals, since it clearly says they will inherit the kingdom of God. Various errors can be
found in the editions/versions of 1638, 1641, 1702, 1711, 1716, 1717, 1746, 1792, 1801, 1802, 1804,
1805, 1806, 1807, 1810, 1823, and 1829. Some serious, some not.
This is not to say that the KJV is not the inspired, infallible, inerrant word of God, because it is, as are
the NASB, the ESV, the NKJV, and other translations. For the KJV Only people, such as Steven
Anderson and the New IFB folks, to say other versions and translations are wrong because they change
this word or that word, all without ever changing doctrine, are not God’s word, all while ignoring the
record of errors found in the KJV is nothing less than a hypocritical double standard.

43. Video: What was Finished? (when Jesus said, "It is Finished."), published to YouTube by
sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 31 October 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbB-
NWphmHc accessed 01 March 2019

44. Ibid

45. Video: Steven Anderson EXPLODES...denies Biblical repentance!!!, published to YouTube by


Kdubtru on 07 March 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYlYT114VE, accessed 07 March
2019
46. Article: Jesus Spent 3 Days and 3 Nights in Hell by Steven Anderson, Thursday, November 24,
2016, http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2016/11/jesus-spent-3-days-and-3-nights-in-hell.html
accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Dr. James White Full Interview 'NWO Bible Versions', published to YouTube by
framingtheworld (Paul Wittenberger) on 11 August 2014, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=xJrptikLjq8 accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Jesus Descended into Hell - Pastor Steven Anderson, published to YouTube by Truth in Genesis
on 16 April 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5rKQyVKShI accessed 01 March 2019

47. Video: We Should Never Go Back To The Greek As Preachers, published to YouTube by
sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 16 October 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ujP-
fI1sL8 accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Dr. James White Full Interview 'NWO Bible Versions', published to YouTube by
framingtheworld (Paul Wittenberger) on 11 August 2014, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=xJrptikLjq8 accessed 01 March 2019

Sources
Part 2C:
48. Article: “Easy-Believism” Defended by Pastor Steven L Anderson, 2006,
http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/easybelievism.html accessed 01 March 2019
Webpage archived at:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190325221235/http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/easybelievism.html

49. Article: The Sinner's Prayer Defended by Steven Anderson, January 26, 2017,
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-sinners-prayer-defended.html accessed 01 March 2019
Webpage archived at:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190325221335/http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-sinners-
prayer-defended.html

50. Article: “Easy-Believism” Defended by Pastor Steven L Anderson, 2006,


http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/easybelievism.html accessed 01 March 2019
Webpage archived at:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190325221235/http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/easybelievism.html

Article: The Sinner's Prayer Defended by Steven Anderson, January 26, 2017,
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-sinners-prayer-defended.html accessed 01 March 2019
Webpage archived at:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190325221335/http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-sinners-
prayer-defended.html

51. “Caveat, n1.” Oxford English Dictionary Online, © 2019 Oxford University Press,
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/caveat accessed 01 March 2019

52. Video: "How Forcible Are Right Words!" Pastor Steven Anderson preaching @ Verity Baptist
Chuch, published to YouTube by Steven Anderson on 28 February 2016,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IblV92zEA08 accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Repentance Abuse, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 30 May


2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2oWqx_ye2s accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Repent of Sins for Salvation? Repentance Spectrum Disorder - Pastor Steven Anderson,
published to YouTube by Truth In Genesis on 09 October 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=5Oj6Io5rQ1Y accessed 01 March 2019

Video: "Naaman and Elisha" Baptist Preaching (King James Bible) Christians Sermons KJV,
published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 18 December 2012,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJE8N5XzEec accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Steven Anderson EXPLODES...denies Biblical repentance!!!, published to YouTube by Kdubtru


on 07 March 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYlYT114VE, accessed 07 March 2019

Video: Repent of your Sins for Salvation EXPOSED!, featuring Steven Anderson, published to
YouTube by Truth In Genesis on 24 July 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64plXQqb6yM
accessed 01 March 2019

Video: "Repent of Your Sins" Hyprocrisy, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson)
on 24 March 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px3EaSVjVjo accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Rant Against the "Repent of Your Sins" Crowd, featuring Steven Anderson, published to
YouTube by KJV soulwinners (Jeff Utzler) on 31 October 2015, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=BnCMy1d8w60 accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Confrontation Outside Revival Baptist Church Orlando, video taken by Benjamin Naim (Ben
the Baptist), published to YouTube by New IFBdot info on 07 September 2018,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEHpV9gDVyQ accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Steven Anderson Mob Accosts Repentance Street Preacher!, published to YouTube by
TruthMercyBaptist on 01 September 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4N1nAbmpLw
accessed 01 March 2019
Website: “Repentance Blacklist”, created and managed by Steven Anderson, accessed 01 March 2019.
Although the site has been taken down, it can still be viewed via the Internet Wayback Machine at
Internet Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190118025615/repentanceblacklist.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20180821002707/repentanceblacklist.com/tulip/
https://web.archive.org/web/20180820235413/repentanceblacklist.com/articles/
https://web.archive.org/web/20180820235457/repentanceblacklist.com/salvation/
https://web.archive.org/web/20180821015252/http://repentanceblacklist.com/blacklist/
https://web.archive.org/web/20180821012535/repentanceblacklist.com/articles/bible-corruptions/

Video: Burning Satanic Material- Book of Mormon and "Repent of Your Sins" Tracts, published to
YouTube by KJV soulwinners (Jeff Utzler) on 08 October 2016. https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=hXIf-FW0jgM accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Do you have to repent from a sinful life to be Saved? - Pastor Steven Anderson, published to
YouTube by The Good News on 27 March 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6qEFoWdoDE
accessed 01 March 2019

53. Video: "How Forcible Are Right Words!" Pastor Steven Anderson preaching @ Verity Baptist
Chuch, published to YouTube by Steven Anderson on 28 February 2016,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IblV92zEA08 accessed 01 March 2019

54. Ibid

55. Ibid

Video: Repentance Abuse, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 30 May


2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2oWqx_ye2s accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Steven Anderson EXPLODES...denies Biblical repentance!!!, published to YouTube by Kdubtru


on 07 March 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYlYT114VE, accessed 07 March 2019

56. Ibid
Note: Spelling the word phonetically, it would be pronounced: met-uh-nō-ĕh/ŏw
How to pronounce Metanoeō in Biblical Greek - (μετανοέω / change one’s mind; repent),
Logos Bible Software, Published on Sep 1, 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql4C5vMOns8

57. Video: "How Forcible Are Right Words!" Pastor Steven Anderson preaching @ Verity Baptist
Chuch, published to YouTube by Steven Anderson on 28 February 2016,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IblV92zEA08 accessed 01 March 2019

58. Ibid
Video: Repent of Sins for Salvation? Repentance Spectrum Disorder - Pastor Steven Anderson,
published to YouTube by Truth In Genesis on 09 October 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=5Oj6Io5rQ1Y accessed 01 March 2019

Video: "Naaman and Elisha" Baptist Preaching (King James Bible) Christians Sermons KJV,
published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 18 December 2012,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJE8N5XzEec accessed 01 March 2019

59. Video: Do you have to repent from a sinful life to be Saved? - Pastor Steven Anderson, published to
YouTube by The Good News on 27 March 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6qEFoWdoDE
accessed 01 March 2019

60. “Easy-Believism” Defended by Pastor Steven L. Anderson, 2006,


www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/easybelievism.html accessed 01 March 2019

61. there is a fourth word, ametameletos, which means literally no repentance, referring to something
that is not repented of. Also used to indicate something that is irrevocable. If Steven Anderson actually
did know Greek as he claims, and has read the New Testament cover to cover, in Greek, multiple times
as he claim, then he would know this. As Anderson correctly said to James White in Paul
Wittenberger’s video, “Dr. James White Full Interview 'NWO Bible Versions'” (framingtheworld,
Published on Aug 11, 2014; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJrptikLjq8), knowing a little Greek
can be dangerous and get one into trouble. Anderson then admitted that he only knew a little Greek,
having only a semester or two of it while in Bible college before he dropped out. That was, however, in
2014, and he may have taught himself since then. If this is the case, his inability to properly pronounce
metanoeó, his inability to distinguish the difference between metanoeó and metanoia, and his lack of
knowledge regarding metamelomai and ametameletos demonstrates his knowledge of biblical Greek is
wholly inadequate. With his faulty understanding of biblical Greek, one wonders how many other
doctrines he is wrong about after his reading of the “New Testament, cover to cover, in Greek, multiple
times.”

62. Strong’s G3338. metamelomai


Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: metamelomai
Phonetic Spelling: (met-am-el'-lom-ahee)
Definition: to regret, repent
Usage: I change my mind (generally for the better), repent, regret.
– properly, to experience a change of concern after a change of emotion and usually implying to regret,
i.e. falling into emotional remorse afterwards.
https://biblehub.com/greek/3338.htm

63. Strong’s G3340. metanoeó


Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: metanoeó
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an-o-eh'-o)
Definition: to change one's mind or purpose
Usage: I repent, change my mind, change the inner man (particularly with reference to acceptance of
the will of God), – properly, "think differently after," "after a change of mind"; to repent (literally,
"think differently afterwards"). Definition: to change one's mind or purpose
to change one's mind, i. e. to repent (to feel sorry that one has done this or that),
used especially of those who, conscious of their sins and with manifest tokens of sorrow, are intent; on
obtaining God's pardon; to repent, clothed in sackcloth and besprinkled with ashes, Matthew 11:21;
Luke 10:13. to change one's mind for the better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one's past sins:
Matthew 3:2; Matthew 4:17; Mark 1:15 (cf. Matthew 3:6; Matthew 3:8 and Luke 3:8, i. e. conduct
worthy of a heart changed and abhorring sin); (Matthew 11:20; Mark 6:12); Luke 13:3, 5; Luke 15:7,
10; Luke 16:30; Acts 2:38; Acts 3:19; Acts 17:30; Revelation 2:5, 16; Revelation 3:3, 19; Matthew
12:41 and Luke 11:32
https://biblehub.com/greek/3340.htm

64. Strong’s G3341. metanoia


metanoia: change of mind, repentance
Part of Speech: Noun,
Transliteration: metanoia
Definition: change of mind, repentance
metánoia – literally, "a change of mind"
a change of mind; especially the change of mind of those who have begun to abhor their errors and
misdeeds, and have determined to enter upon a better course of life, so that it embraces both a
recognition of sin and sorrow for it, to give one the ability to repent, or to cause him to repent, Acts
5:31
https://biblehub.com/greek/3341.htm

65. Video: Salvation Stats for First 12 Years of FWBC, published to YouTube by sanderson1611
(Steven Anderson) on 25 December 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL-koSgLSYQ
accessed 01 March 2019

According to Steven Anderson in this video, these are the numbers of those saved through “Soul
Winning” by FWBC from 2005-2017: 2005 = 33; 2006 = 200; 2007 = 226; 2008 = 941; 2009 = 1258;
2010 = 1143; 2011 = 1264; 2012 = 1043; 2013 = 1199; 2014 = 1556; 2015 = 2546; 2016 = 5141; 2017
= 11,247. For a grand total, according to Anderson, or 28,000 people saved. The actual total is 27,797

66. Telephonic Interview #01 with New IFB Pastor, Manly Perry, pastor of Old Paths Baptist Church in
San Antonio, Texas, 03 February 2019

67. Video: No Peanut Butter, published to YouTube by brothermanly316 (Manly Perry) on 14 June
2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwrmYflgUSY accessed 01 March 2019

68. Video: Why New Converts Don't Go to FWBC, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven
Anderson) on 11 August 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNncmDP6utc accessed 01 March
2019

69. Interview with Steven Anderson on “The Point with Reginald Richardson”, "Breakfast with Reg",
GABZ FM, Botswana, 20 September 2016; featured in the following video: Full Botswana Radio
Interview With Pastor Steven Anderson, published to YouTube by Discerner of Spirits on 23 September
2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73tpvfqgfc accessed 01 March 2019

70. Topic: Prophet, Easton's Bible Dictionary, M.G. Easton M.A., D.D., Illustrated Bible Dictionary,
Third Edition, published by Thomas Nelson, 1897. Public Domain.

71. Article: My Wife Zsuzsa - Part 3, by Steven L. Anderson, March 11, 2013,
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2013/03/my-wife-zsuzsa-part-3.html accessed 07 April 2019

72. https://wikidiff.com/clairvoyant/premonition

73. On October 4, 1999, my wife and I met for the first time.
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2013/03/my-wife-zsuzsa-part-1.html

74. Married August 13, 2000


https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5828592/

75. Ordination Service for Donnie Romero (Stedfast Baptist Church)


Transcript, dated 26 August 2014, www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/transcript_ordination_romero.html
accessed 02 April 2019

76. Video: Resignation of Pastor Romero, published to YouTube by Stedfast Baptist Church (Steven
Harper & Kevin Edelman YouTube channel administrators) on 02 January 2019,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=BbWAhNxVcWo accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Pastor Donnie Romero Steps Down from Stedfast Baptist Church, published to YouTube by
sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 04 January 2019, https://youplay.pk/watch?v=lOkt4-gAkYc
accessed 04 January 2019. Note: This video has been removed from YouTube by Steven Anderson.

77. Video: Ordination of Bro Tyler Baker as Deacon, published to YouTube by Richard Sousa on 24
June 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDhRcadEOZk accessed 01 March 2019

78. Faithful Word Baptist Church Facebook Posting dated 01 May 2017, stating, “Bro. Tyler Baker,
who is our deacon at FWBC, is starting a church this summer in Jacksonville, FL: Valiant Baptist
Church. The first service will be on August 6th. Below is a link for the church's YouTube channel. This
is where the weekly sermons will be uploaded. If you haven't already, go ahead and subscribe:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7e5uVHY29cfnBHcl7rLmUg Also Check out his website: http://
valiantbaptist.org/”
https://www.facebook.com/183465927963/posts/bro-tyler-baker-who-is-our-deacon-at-fwbc-is-
starting-a-church-this-summer-in-ja/10155234429557964/ accessed 01 March 2019

79. Video: Angry Steven Anderson vs Tyler Baker - Pastor Berates Understudy While Wife in Labor,
published to YouTube by Banned From THE NEW IFB on 28 January 2019, https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=DaHyA5Ij2ko accessed 01 March 2019

80. Video: Garrett Kirchway on Tyler Baker's Work Performance, published by Faithful Word Baptist
Church (Steven Anderson) on 30 May 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
reload=9&v=jHsYR1DY4Ls&feature=youtu.be accessed 01 March 2019

Video: Tyler Baker's Timesheets - Read 'em & weep!, published to YouTube by Faithful Word Baptist
Church (Steven Anderson) on 30 May 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RefDM8gjfo
accessed 01 March 2019

81. Video: Hard Evidence of Tyler Baker Employee Theft, published to YouTube by Faithful Word
Baptist Church (Steven Anderson) on 30 May 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uInMJaWh1LI
accessed 01 March 2019

82. Video: The Cost of Discipleship Evangelist Garrett Kirchway, published to YouTube by Saved by
Faith on 27 May 2018. This video features Garrett Kirchway’s ordination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igJV-x-yeUM accessed 01 March 2019

83. Video: "Bible Principles for Missions" (Botswana), published to YouTube by sanderson1611
(Steven Anderson) on 22 May 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O67FOt-m-jE
Sermon Transcript: "Bible Principles for Missions" KJV Baptist Bible Preaching, May 22, 2016,
https://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/transcript_bible_principles_for_missions.html
accessed 01 March 2019

84. Ibid

85. Video: Wedding Of Brother Garrett & Neo (with reception), published to YouTube by Discerner of
Spirits on 31 October 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYk6QisEpes accessed 01 March
2019
MP3 Audio Has Been Downloaded For This Video

86. Video: Garrett Kirchway Fired from FWBC, published to YouTube by sanderson1611 (Steven
Anderson) on 28 May 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ9toArU-RI accessed 01 March 2019
Video: Pastor Anderson kicks out Garrett Kirchway & Dominique Davis for Modalism, FWBC 5/27/18,
published to YouTube by The New IFB on 27 May 2018, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=pjOlTxb6Pxg accessed 01 March 2019

87. Video: Richard Miller Pastor Ordination (Faithful Word Baptist Church), published to YouTube by
Wendy Davis on 16 October 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76XT0GT32v4 accessed 01
March 2019

88. Article: We Need More Soul-winning Churches by Steven L Anderson, dated November 9, 2016,
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2016/11/we-need-more-soul-winning-churches.html, Anderson
made the comments in the comments section of this article on January 5, 2017 at 12:00 PM, accessed
03 April 2019

89. Video: Paul Wittenberger is a Great Guy!, published by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 02
September 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcWGa01q4w0 accessed 17 March 2019

Article: Framing the World by Steven Anderson, Pastor Anderson's Blog, September 29, 2016, https://
www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/bl_framing_the_world.html accessed 17 March 2019

Framing the World website: https://store.framingtheworld.com/


Framing the World website store: https://store.framingtheworld.com/t/auromre

What are the Vedas? - Definition from Yogapedia, https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5007/vedas


accessed 17 March 2019

What Is Ayurveda? Treatments, Massage, Diet, and More - WebMD


https://www.webmd.com/balance/guide/ayurvedic-treatments accessed 17 March 2019

Integral Yoga page on the Auromere website, https://www.auromere.com/integral-yoga/ accessed 17


March 2019

Auromère “About” Website page, https://www.auromere.com/about/ accessed 17 March 2019


Auromère “Auroville” Website page, https://www.auromere.com/auroville/ accessed 17 March 2019
Auromère Ichapur School website page, https://www.auromere.com/ichhapur-school/ accessed 17
March 2019

Video: Hindu Moment #1 - Definition of Yoga, published by sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson) on 15


March 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ3oXmjfTBM accessed 17 March 2019

Video: The Lord" of Hinduism is Satan Himself! (The Devil), published by sanderson1611 (Steven
Anderson) on 23 January 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGwExJYuhI accessed 17 March
2019

90. Video: "Bible Principles for Missions" (Botswana), published to YouTube by sanderson1611
(Steven Anderson) on 22 May 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O67FOt-m-jE
Sermon Transcript: "Bible Principles for Missions" KJV Baptist Bible Preaching, May 22, 2016,
https://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/transcript_bible_principles_for_missions.html
accessed 01 March 2019

91. Video: Dr. James White Full Interview 'NWO Bible Versions', published to YouTube by
framingtheworld (Paul Wittenberger) on 11 August 2014, https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=xJrptikLjq8 accessed 01 March 2019

92. Video: "Sheba the Son of Bichri" (Adam Fannin Exposed), published by sanderson1611 (Steven
Anderson) on 09 January 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crCo4fYHSag accessed 17 March
2019

93. Telephonic Interview #01 with New IFB Pastor, Manly Perry, pastor of Old Paths Baptist Church in
San Antonio, Texas, 03 February 2019

Steven Anderson and the New IFB Movement -- Update


Thus far only one person involved with the New IFB has bothered to contact me regarding the articles
that have been uploaded to the blog regarding Steven Anderson and the New IFB, and that is Benjamin
Naim. Since every New IFB pastor was sent links to each article along with an explanation of what the
articles are about, their collective lack of comments would tend to support the truthfulness of the
articles. They have been given the opportunity to provide comment and correction to the articles and
they have not done so. There must not be anything that needs correcting. Ben Naim, on the other hand,
was less than pleased with the articles as his email shows.

Let me try and answer Ben’s objections here. Ben writes, “Your article is riddled with lies.” That’s
quite the accusation, but Ben doesn’t provide a single valid example of a lie anywhere in the article,
much less enough to show the “article is riddled” with them.
Ben goes on, “I did work for the Methodist Church BEFORE I got saved because I didn't know any
better. You made it seem like I attend Stedfast Baptist Church on Wednesday and a liberal Methodist
church on Sunday - this is total fiction.” Actually, Ben, I did not imply that at all. You simply inferred
it, although I have no idea why you would, unless you maintain some connection with them that you
are ashamed of. But I don’t understand why you would be ashamed of your affiliation with a liberal
homosexual affirming church, when you continue to post that affiliation online for all to see.
Ben then writes, “If you actually looked at the dates on my resume, you'd see that I was involved with
the UMC BEFORE I got involved with the New IFB.” Well, Ben, according to information that you
posted online, you were involved with the United Methodist Church from January 2014 to November
2015. According to your YouTube channel, “Ben the Baptist” joined YouTube in August 2015,
indicating an overlap of at least four months during which Ben the Baptist was involved with the UMC.
Now, of course, it is possible that you joined YouTube under a different name, perhaps “Ben the
Liberal” (just kidding, don’t blow a gasket!) during the time you were involved with the UMC, and
simply changed the name of your YouTube channel when you started using the pseudonym “Ben the
Baptist.”Additionally, your ultra-conservative website, “We the Vigilant” was up and running, where
you posted Bible verses and hard-line far-right rhetoric – completely antithetical to the ultra-liberal
UMC with which you were still affiliated with at that same time. To put is simply, from June 2015
through November 2015, for a full half a year, you were both Ben the Baptist and Ben the Liberal at the
same time. Therefore, your claim of “When people get saved, they tend to leave false denominations.”
while true, does not apply to you.
Ben goes on, “Grace Church is in Gainesville, Florida. Stedfast is located in Jacksonville, Florida - how
could I attend churches simultaneously that are 70+ miles away from each other? Also, this is not even

a secret. I've told everyone already that I used to be a liberal Methodist. When people get saved, they
tend to leave false denominations.” Where did I say that you attended both churches simultaneously,
Ben? No where, that’s where. But nice try at a red herring. Actually, the two churches are only 90
minutes apart, and there is nothing to indicate that you did not attend Stedfast on Sundays and
Wednesday nights, while working with your liberal friends at various other times.
Ben continues, “I've openly used both Benjamin Knight AND Benjamin Naim on my YouTube
channel. If I was hiding my last name, why would I do that? When I provided Bible narration for a
documentary on Demon Possession (published by Stedfast Baptist Church when Donnie Romero was
pastor) I used Naim.” I have look through your YouTube channel and read every bit of wording on that
channel, and do not see where either name – Knight or Naim – appears anywhere. And I find it
interesting that you maintain that particular video on your channel when three different well known
“reprobates” (to use your word) were heavily involved in the production of that video. Does this mean
they were honest, truthful and trustworthy brothers when they made that video with you, and didn’t
become dishonest, lying, untrustworthy, “reprobates” until later?
Ben then writes, “I use Benjamin Naim on my Facebook page where I'm friends with many people who
subscribe to my channel, including most New IFB pastors. I've openly stated that "Knight" is a
pseudonym I've used because my legal name is an Arabic word that is difficult to pronounce for
English speakers - Asians and Indians do this all the time when they immigrate to the West.” Come on
Ben, your name is not all that difficult to pronounce, and nothing prevented you from instructing
people how to pronounce it, maybe engage in a little Arab – American cultural exchange. And it seems
a bit strange for someone to have not just one, but two pseudonyms. Ben the Baptist is the pseudonym
of Ben Knight which is the pseudonym of Ben Naim. Your explanation seems a tad weak.
Ben goes on, “ In a video entitled "Flattery is a Wicked Manipulation Tactic" on my channel, I put the
name "Ben Naim" as a lower third to identify myself. Everyone knows what my legal name is.” Ben,
you published that video to YouTube on March 15, 2019, a month after I revealed that your legal name
is Benjamin Naim in the comments section of the Adam Fannin video, “Righteous Indignation” posted
in February 2019. Perhaps identifying yourself as “Ben ‘the Baptist’ Naim” was a form of damage
control. I have not been able to find a single instance from before February 2019 where you used the
name “Ben ‘the Baptist’ Naim.”

Ben goes on, “The reason why I shut down my personal website is because of people like you stalking
me. I completely forgot it even existed until you (or whoever it was) brought it up on YouTube.” Yes, it
was me. No, I was not “stalking” you. You were the subject of investigative research. And since your
personal website carries a 2019 copyright, you must have a very short memory if you forgot it existed
in the space of three short months!

Ben continues, “Obviously, I shut it down immediately because I didn't want anyone knowing my
personal phone number or address as it would compromise the security of my family. I get death threats
regularly via email, why would I want those same people to know where I live?” I have screen shots of
your personal website, and don’t see your personal address of telephone number anywhere on it. And if
it was there, it would be a small matter to remove that information, and replace it with a free and
untraceable Google phone number. As this is a common tactic with the New IFB, I am sure you are
aware of it. Furthermore, as we have already called you at your personal telephone number, it should be
clear that it isn’t very difficult to get.
Ben then finishes his email to me by writing, “You could've called and asked me directly about my
name or my prior affiliation with the Methodist church and I would have been glad to talk about it, but
I guess facts don't matter when you're trying to slander people.” Yes Ben I could have simply called
you and asked. However, considering your obvious bias, and your history of unchristian behavior, there
is no reason to believe you would be honest regarding that subject, especially if you are/were trying to
hide something.
Ben, I implore you, please leave the New IFB, and repent, and turn your life over to Christ. Live for
Him, not for Steven Anderson, his New IFB, nor any other man; but rather for the King of kings and
Lord of lords, who paid the penalty for your sins on the cross at Calvary. Be saved from your sin and
the wrath that will come upon every unrepentant sinner.

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