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The engine turbine of Viktor Schauberger

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Viktor Schauberger Brilliant Austrian nugget, Forester, at leisure, engaged in physics, a lot of time devoted 20
years to the understanding of vortex motion, noticed that when the spontaneous unwinding of water flowing in a pipe Каталог поселений
bath time oporozhnenija bath decreases. This means that in the whirlwind increases not only the tangential but also the Добавить поселение
axial flow velocity. By the way, this effect have been noticed and beer lovers. At their competitions, as well as possible Добавить объявление
to send the contents of the bottle into the mouth, they are usually heavily hyping the beer in the bottle before its tip.
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Before the second world war, Schauberger worked in the lumber camps, where for the first time used vortex
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technology in practice for fusion of heavy logs breeds that are not able to stay on the water. During the war
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Schauberger was imprisoned in a concentration camp, where he was forced to work on a flying disk project using his
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Engine Repulsin Schauberger, on the basis of which the disk was created Balance, consumed only water and air, and Информация о сайте
the principle of its operation is included the implosion (Implosion). Schauberger worked with specialists implosion from Обратная связь
among the prisoners of the concentration camp.

The machine was destroyed in the end of the war Schauberger was in the United States. Refusing to offer rebuild the
engine and not being able to find support for developing the other their inventions, he in 1958, he went to Europe,
where he soon died.

Schauberger worked with vortex flows. He found that when certain conditions (the conical form of the vortex, speed,
temperature...), the flow becomes self-sustaining, i.e., it the formation longer need the external energy. Moreover, it is
possible use the energy of the vortex.

The engine of Viktor Schauberger?

The engine was, and drawings allowing you to recreate it, is almost gone. The author of the developments made this
deliberately. According to eyewitnesses, the engine needs only water and air.

Schauberger emphasized that under certain conditions, the vortex became self-sustaining as a natural tornado the
existence of which is determined only by the presence of a pressure difference between the external environment and
the internal cone of the tornado. This requires it was supplied to the vortex heat which would be absorbed and
supported them it from rotating. For this was the heat exchanger. When the engine came out in self-sufficient mode,
the motor starter is disconnected, the engine pipelines the water supplied under a certain pressure and air. Vortex
engines simultaneously rotates the shafts of the generators, which could be used for power system control and
recharging the batteries the Disk Balance.

Generator "Tornado" - V. Schauberger. The basis of the engine. Working fluid in the engine is water.

For some reason, mostly considered the only illustration of the rotor. Beautiful curved 24 "horns" in a circle. They quickly
equate to the blades of the turbine and begin with it to compare. The "horn" is curved end, and a bend directed
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against the rotation of the rotor. Here this is not I want to see.
Земледелие, пермакультура [41]
Строительство, обустройство [26]
Альтернативная энергия [31]
В помощь поселенцам [29]
Экология, здоровье [53]
Человечья еда [11]
Мастерская, промыслы [7]
Религии, вера [10]
Статьи на разные темы [104]
Новости, объявления [27]

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Fig. 1. Generator "tornado" - V. Schauberger.

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Let's look a little closer. Horn hollow. The channel begins at the base of the rotor. Ends of the channel grooves, parallel
drains. Clearly shows the narrowing of the channel in a flat section output. Why?

Sections a-A and b-are obviously trying to give us the output configuration and show support, holding the bend.

The direction of the exit jets directed downwards and slightly toward the movement. Why? To this question the
answer seems to be possible. High-speed jet emerging from the channels are not dispersed the rotor, as it seems to
many, and not hinder it, but perhaps a bit dispersed the stator of the motor in the direction of rotation of the rotor.
Why? To reduce reverse pulse jet stator. Upon rotation of the rotor occurs reverse torque on the stator, this leads to
rotation of the entire design. To prevent this, put on the helicopters tail screw, or use a coaxial rotation of the two
screws in the opposite side. Schauberger solved this problem differently. It sends a jet on the stator causing it to
rotate in the same direction as the rotor, thus stopping the rotation of the engine at all work. And simultaneously
solves the second task, directing exhaust stream back to the input channel of the rotor, closing the cycle of the
working environment in the engine.

And there is no vortex, as it is imagined by many, in the engine does not occur. The vortex flow from the jets, flowing
down the grooves of the stator, moves along the chamber wall to the center. There he being sucked into the rotor.

If so, what is this line on the core starting from the overlapping of the cone going through the middle portion of the
liquid and end on the periphery of the grooves of the stator? Perhaps it is the grid. It prevents twisting and rapid
movement of the liquid in the chamber. And maybe it's the filter...

The following subtlety. A slit in the center of the picture. Shown multiple channels of current, but the direction they
are opposite. Why? This point is in the center of the top pairing.... It seems pairing input "horns" in the middle part of
the rotor.

Pay again attention to the section a-A, the lower the picture in the right corner. The picture is strange. On the middle
line of the current there are three different lines. One reflects the flow rotation, the second monitors the average line,
and the third ? She mysteriously goes down output channel of the jet. Rather, it is – tube.

Short tube, leaving one end in the right the bottom of the narrow part of the horn, and the second end of it is in the
medium part of the canal and ends there. It connects vacuum the middle part the vortex and the external
environment. Moreover, pipe, apparently, two. In the middle part vortex air is sucked. It reduces the pressure
difference and is involved in the rotation of the vortex jet. Thus, the Central vortex, reverse basic rotation, in the pipe
Ranke, here air, and the main the vortex – liquid. The air, speeding along with the main vortex pressed to the wall and
is carried along with the liquid in the main channel. That's why you need mesh. She stops the flow and allows air to
escape from fluid volume. Now it is clear and the second assignment reliance on the section b-B. building, among other
things, holds the tube back current. As can be seen from the figure, V. Schauberger assumed that the air pass through
the Central part of the vortex to the entrance, and the tube brought him only prior to the latest round of the spiral
channel. And apparently the same the tubes are on the input, they start from the midfield pairing in the upper part of
the rotor. On the upper cone. There is the air. This is the output the reverse current of the vortex channel. So, air is
the Central part throughout the vortex of "horns".

And the last one. As we can see the twisted channels in the form of horns two. One has a 2.5 – 3 turns of the helix
right on a wide trajectory previously used them, the other option is a 3.5-4 turns on more steep left-hand spiral path.
The angle of the jet and its the degree of twist different. Perhaps this is the trajectory for different variants of the
engine. But, if we consider a narrow stretch of negative resistance "horns" on the chart, it is possible that "horns" in
reality must be 24 and 48. 24 of them "right" and the same "left". They work at different speeds, extending the overall
plot low the dynamic resistance of the system for different modes of operation.

Now the big question. What gives this scheme and what drives this engine? Or mover?

In the meantime, another very well-known figure. Generator vortex. There are a few "tricks". It is unclear where does
the external vortex flow. It is opposite to the internal thread. If the external stream is set by a rotation of the
generator, why the internal flow has the opposite rotation? Honor channel current is?

Fig.2.The generator vortex flow V. Schauberger.

Face it... Let the patterned disk rotates. In the Wake of the channel current begin pumping air on the outer side of
the disc. Occurs external the vortex flow. It is compressed to the exit of the vortex chamber and according to the
plans of V. Schauberger gaining axial velocity. Now we know that the flow in the tank variablenotes there is a second
vortex of low speed particles reverse direction of rotation. And above the rotating disk is likely is a fixed mesh disk. If
the vortex chamber was cylindrical, it would have been a classic pipe Ranke (see below). But the chamber is conical.
The pressure in protivogaze grows and the air rushes in the only possible direction in a narrowing channel. However, he
is also gaining axial velocity is accelerated from the outside vortex. The output of the generator we have a complex
high-speed vortex very complex structures with vortex filaments, external and internal threads. By the way, very strong
support for the aircraft apparatus. The vortex retains its size and at a sufficient distance from output from the
generator. But that's what high-speed aircraft the apparatus type of the helicopter does not need. This would be
suitable for reactive aircraft, but the rate of departure of the vortex is clearly less than the speed of the aircraft. Such
an engine fit for ships and boats. And begin to fly this thing the engine is already late...

But to us it is necessary for the understanding of a possible move reasoning V. Schauberger reality engine. The first
thing we see the reverse current in the vortex Schauberger was well known, and his the presence he could not be
considered in the scheme of the engine.

Now try to deal with by the engine itself. A lot of material and it makes no sense to rewrite the original sources. For
explanation a series of great quotes from different sources. I think they well enough to explain everything.

"If L. Gerbrand, ... sought to achieve increased the capacity of hydro power plants only by straightening the flow of
water to the turbine and the gradual narrowing of the conduit, so that water acquired as can high speed translational
motion, Schauberger supplied the tapered water conduit, and another screw guide, the swirl flow water in the
longitudinal vortex, and at the end of a conduit it puts axial turbine a radically new design. (Patent Austria No. 117749
from 10.05.1930)

Fig.3. V. Schauberger Turbine

The feature of this turbine (see Fig. 3.) is the fact that it has no blades, which in conventional turbines cross the flow
of water and, tearing it, spend a lot of energy wasted to overcome the forces of surface tension and adhesion of
water molecules. This leads not only to energy losses but also to the appearance of cavitation phenomena that lead to
the erosion of the metal of the turbine.

Turbine Schauberger has a conical shape with spiraleobraznye blades in the form of a corkscrew, screw-in a swirling
water flow. She breaks the flow and not creates cavitation. It is not known whether such turbine anywhere
implemented in practice, but in her scheme, of course, laid very promising ideas."

Now a quote]:

"Why is the turbine in various descriptions is denoted by "sucking", it can be concluded from the description of the
experiments conducted in 1952 at the Technical College of Stuttgart Professor Poppadom Franz (Franz Poppel)
Experiments were carried out in order Council of Ministers of Germany with the aim to test theories of Schauberger, as
it ideas about the movement contradicted classical mechanics and thermodynamics. The experiments gave inexplicable
from the point of view of last Sciences results. One of these results was the discovery of the mode water flow through
the copper pipe, made in the form of replica horn Kudu antelope (right-hand tapered spiral), in which the value of the
friction force of water in the tube oscillated depending on the mode of pumping water, and in one of the modes is
negative.

Below is a photo of this pipe and graphics power friction of water in the three tubes (glass direct, direct copper, spiral
copper) depending on the flow rate pumped through of water. Solid line are shown the measured values, the dotted
line marked design.

Graph of friction force in spiral copper pipe Schauberger explained using the simple principle of motion called them
implosion. In his opinion, this principle would be reasonable to use in various machines that convert energy. It differs
from destructive explosions used, for example, in internal combustion engines and other machines, lies in the fact that
through mechanisms organize micro movements of atoms and molecules, creating conditions for them movements in
the natural space curves. In this case, their the movement receives support from motion in space, which generated by
all the interacting bodies.
Fig.5. Graph of friction force flow in pipes.

In the case of sucking the energy tube cross violence is not used, and campfires support pipe. However, even in this
case, the friction force in spiral copper pipe less friction force in straight pipe of the same material. Oscillations of friction
force in spiral pipe show modes matching dynamic parameters collisions of atoms and molecules in the pipe and water at
different levels of scale. In one mode selected from these collisions energy is enough for the movement of all the water
in the pipe without a pump. In this mode, during disease, should be some internal streamlining and cooling of the water
as in the case of flow around a rock in the river. Unfortunately, the book doesn't have information on conducting
temperature measurements during tests in Stuttgart.

Fig.6. V. Schauberger

...According to the author, there are evidence that one of the power plants Schauberger, made them for work in your
own home, tore off the Foundation thrown through the roof and it crashed. The same thing happened with
intermediate option another installation, made at the plant in Germany according to his plans. Below are photos of his
installations explaining how to use the motion in the form of conical spirals.
Fig. 7. Power plant In Schauberger with the cover removed.

One of the possible causes of failures with these units was not only the lack of a model ...that is not allowed to do
effective control of energy conversion, but probably more of the working substance. Schauberger experimented also
with air, as with coolant."

..."One of the most close to the turbine sucking Schauberger device design and principle of operation is the so called
"super" engine of Richard Clem. In 1972 Richard Clem announced the invention of the automobile engine closed type
that produced 350 horsepower and worked itself yourself. The engine weighed about 200 pounds and contains
vegetable oil, that was heated to 150 degrees Celsius. Inside the engine is a cone attached to the axle. The shaft on
which the reinforced cone that is empty inside and goes into the spiral hollow channels inside the cone. They wrap
around the cone and ending at its base nozzles (injectors).

Fig.8. Engine R. Clem

The liquid is fed into the Central axis under pressure 300-500 pounds per square inch, passes through the spiral
channels and vypuskaetsya through nozzles. The greater the fluid pressure, the faster the rotation of the cone. When
working fluid is heated, which requires the presence of the heat exchanger to return heat to the environment. When
a certain speed, the cone begins self-rotation, independent from the pump. The rotation speed of the shaft reaches
1800-2300 rpm.

The idea of this work, suredirect engine Clem is obtained by transforming some components of it the working
substance in a less energy-intensive forms. Released the difference energy goes to heating of the working substance
and its accelerated motion for one of the above mechanisms. To confirm this idea proper chemical analysis of the
working substance. The fact that it subject to transformation, indicates the presence of the filter after the pump."

Now, again, quote:

"...Exploring cyclic separators for gas cleaning from dust, a French engineer and Metallurgist J. Ranke in the late 20-ies
The twentieth century, found a strange phenomenon: in the center of the jet of gas emerging from the cyclone had a
lower temperature than the source. At the end 1931 Ranke receives the first patent for a device he called "vortex
tube" (W), in which the separation of flow compressed air into two streams — cold and hot. Soon patent this invention
in other countries.
In1933 the Wound makes the report of the French physical society about the phenomenon separation of a
compressed gas in WATTS. But the scientific community it the message was greeted with suspicion, as no one could
explain the physics of this process. Because scientists very shortly before realized the impossibility of the fantastical idea
of "Maxwell's demon", which separation warm gas into hot and cold was supposed to be released through the pin hole
of the vessel with the gas fast the gas molecules and not to release slow. All agreed that this contradicts the second
beginning thermodynamics and the law of increasing entropy.

Fig.9. Vortex tube Ranke.

More than 20 years of opening the Wound was ignored. And only in 1946, the German physicist R. Hills published a
paper about the experimental studies WATTS, which made recommendations for the design of such devices. Since
they are sometimes called pipes Ranke — Hillsa.

Based on the conservation laws of energy and momentum, it is generally believed that when rotating the jet in a
longitudinal vortex part the kinetic energy of the translational motion of the jet is transformed into its rotational energy,
and I think that as a result of axial speed jet should decrease. It is, as claimed, should lead to a reduction of the range
of free submerged jets during their twisting.

Moreover, in hydraulic engineering is usually strongly fighting the turbulence of the liquid in the device for spillover and
seek to provide irrotational laminar flow. Determine that the appearance of the vortex cord in the fluid stream entails
the formation of craters on the surface fluid above the entrance to the drain pipe. The funnel begins to vigorously suck
air from entering the tube which is undesirable. In addition, people mistakenly believe that the appearance of a funnel
of air, which reduces the share cross-section of the inlet occupied by the liquid, reduces the consumption fluid through
the hole.
...despite a decline in the share section the holes occupied by the fluid flow, when the flow rotation flows through a
hole faster than without rotation.
However, we are interested in here is not so much the turbine of Schauberger, as its assertion that the energy of
thermal motion of water molecules in the vortex flow can be transformed into kinetic energy of the water flow. In this
respect, the most interesting results of the experiments set out in 1952, V. Schauberger, together with Professor
Franz Popel at The technical College of Stuttgart.

Exploring the influence of the shape of the channel of the conduit and material of its walls on the flow resistance of the
swirling the flow of water in it, the experimenters found that the best results are achieved with copper walls. But the
most amazing thing configuration of channel-like horn antelope, friction in a channel with the increase in water velocity
decreases, and after exceeding a certain critical speed the water flowed with a negative resistance, that is is drawn into
the channel and is accelerated in it.
Kudu

Hasslberger agree with Schauberger that here the vortex transformerait the warmth of the water into kinetic energy
flow. But notes that "thermodynamics, as taught in schools and universities, not this allows transformation of heat at
low differences temperatures". However, points of Hasslberger modern thermodynamics not able to explain many other
natural phenomena.
And here then the theory of movement can help to understand why vortex motion provides, it would seem, contrary
to prevailing notions of thermodynamics, transformation of heat to tighten the flow of matter in the energy of its axial
movement in accordance with the formula (6.4). Tightening the flow in the vortex causes some of the heat, which is
part of the internal the system's energy, converted to kinetic energy translational motion of the flow along the axis of
the vortex. Why along axis? Yes, because then the velocity vector of the acquired the translational motion is
perpendicular to the vector the instantaneous tangential speed of the rotational motion of particles in the stream and
does not change the magnitude of the latter. It follows the law conservation of moment of momentum of the flow.
In addition, particle acceleration in the direction perpendicular to the direction of their the main (circular) motion within
the vortex, leads to the relativistic ascending transverse, and not longitudinal mass. On the need separate taking into
account of the transverse and longitudinal masses of the elementary particles*(This is similar to the separate calculation
of the longitudinal and transverse of the Doppler effect.) wrote a lot in the initial stage of a HUNDRED), namely the
longitudinal mass (corresponding in this the case of the tangential velocity of the particles in the vortex) determines the
magnitude of centrifugal forces in circular motion. The transformation part of the internal energy into the kinetic energy
of the axial (axial) movement of bodies in it, the centrifugal force does not increase. So the energy of the emerging
axial motion turns out to be departed from the problem of circular motion, which is mathematically equivalent to leaving
it out the rotating system without any emission of photons.

But the law momentum conservation of the system requires that in the case of acquisition vortex flow axial momentum
some other body (for example the housing of the vortex device) simultaneously acquired same absolute value of
momentum in the opposite direction. In closed vortex devices, for example in vortex tubes, and when contact eddy of
the flow with the walls of the apparatus is absent (as in some cases of free swirling jets), reverse pulse forced to
purchase an axial portion of the flow having a lower tangential speed than the peripheral part."

Here it is, the explanation of this scheme. A mover, which converts the motion of the vortex jet in the forward
movement of the rotor, in our case, up. Because angle so the horns of the rotor.

Now we can try to explain how it works.

Primary engine system is the motor in the upper part of figure 1. He spins the rotor vortex propulsion V. Schauberger.
Occurs the centrifugal force and the liquid begins to move through the channels of "horns". Samouskorenie movement
fluid in the channels leads to the appearance of the reaction force on the walls of "horns". The reaction force is
directed from the periphery of the rotor to the center of the midline tilt "horns" to the rotor. This lifting force. It seeks
to raise rotor, and with it the whole apparatus. When a certain speed dynamic flow resistance becomes negative. Since
then, the speed of rotation of the rotor is supported the flow inside the "horns". Now the stream, creating a large
difference pressure on the periphery relative to the base of the "horn" supports the speed of rotation of the rotor to
provide the necessary centrifugal force, compensating the pressure drop. The motor is no longer needed. Now on the
power of the vortex flow can not only create the lifting force, but also to develop electricity. So, it seems, could to talk
to V. Schauberger.
Вполне закономерно, что «горючим» для этого двигателя является тепло. Необходимs горячая вода и воздух в
больших количествах для обеспечения соответствующей мощности движ ителя. Для работы этого движ ителя
нуж ен мощный нагреватель, а не охладитель. И мощная теплозащита корпуса. Не зря В.Шаубергер замерял
температуру в водоворотах у камней горной речки….

Интересен и запуск движ ителя. В начале вся камера долж на быть заполнена водой. Запускается
электродвигатель, и по мере разгона ротора вода из камеры выпускается до рабочего уровня с одновременным
заполнением свободного объема горячим воздухом под большим давлением. Избыточное давление позволяет
увеличить теплоемкость воды, т.к. повышается ее температура кипения. Регулируя давление воздуха мож но
добиться оптимального реж има работы. Одновременно с этим регулируется и полож ение ниж него запорного
клапана, ограничивающего подачу воды в ротор для получения устойчивого воздушного канала обратного хода.
Это увеличивает скорость течения вихревого потока. Отвод воздуха по трубкам в начале и конце канала
обратного тока не позволяет разрывать водный поток и тяга в канале вихревого стока сохраняется.
Образованный сифон долж ен работать устойчиво. Вот почему сделано суж ение вихревого канала у статорных
канавок. Оно прерывает вихревое движ ение ж идкости и делает его ламинарным. Вихрь остается только внутри
«рога».

Так это выглядит в теории. И как мы сегодня видим, реальная основа для таких рассуж дений есть. Каж ется, что
все уж е понятно…

Никитин А.В.

Этот рисунок на пшеничном поле - иллюстрация процессов, происходящих в торнадо и призывает к следующему
основному выводу : вращающиеся минивихри, из которых состоит торнадо притягиваются друг к другу и
стремятся к главному центру вращения. А здесь нарисованы именно минивихри. Обратите внимание- возле
каж дого основного круж ка старательно нарисовано несколько дополнительных , прямо указывая , что здесь
изображ ено несколько мини- процессов , продвигающихся по спирали к центру. Совершенно определенно , что
здесь нарисован на плоскости объемный процесс (вихрь - торнадо - смерч).
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1 Илья (07.10.2010 09:31) 0

Очень интересная фотография! А какой был результат в итоге? Что-то получилось достичь? Работала машина?

2 Nik_Bor (20.10.2010 07:39) 0

трубки не круглые однако, ж идкость раскручивается и вместо реактивной струи имеет место " подсос" , вакуум!,
имплозию!

3 Анд рей Стрелков (28.11.2010 17:01) 0

Очень интересно, заработала ли машина? Будет печально, если как обычно, поделели что то и бросили,
споткнувшись об нашу бюрократию. Ведь здесь такие перспективы!

4 Firdus (17.12.2010 21:27) 0

моё мнение такое............., что если даж е заработала, то никто и никогда об этом не сознается!!!
т.к. это граничит с другими сферами ...................

5 Firdus (18.12.2010 16:34) 0

да уж ..........начитался я в интернете про эту "машину" и ещё про "репульсин".......короче ничего здесь
особенного нет, просто работают законы физики. Да, кто это понял мож ет сам рассчитать и сделать это, да и
ещё не такое......... Вообще Шаубергер В., муж ик умный решил использовать молекулярную энергию. Во всех
случаях рабочий орган претерпевает изменения (вода, воздух и т.д.), по этому, в случае использования воды её
придётся время от времени менять.
Вот и всё ничего удивительного в этих изобретениях нет.
Сайт конечно убойный!!! И все остальные, то ж е. Я в первый раз нашёл то, о чём догадывался. Мож ет, кто
помнит ж урнал «Техника молодёж и», так вот первую картинку спирального двигателя я увидел в нём. В статье
писалось, что рисунок найден в книгах Тибетского монастыря. Я по образованию инж енер и мне всё понятно
сейчас, а тогда мне это представлялось как нечто из мира фантастики.

6 Aramis (23.12.2010 06:01) 0

 Я думаю , что именно эта машинка не заработала. Так как в этом деле как раз важ ен размер. А то что написал
Firdus, то здесь никаких сфер нет! Всё действительно основано на физических законах. Просто возмож но о
некоторых мы ещё знаем. В принципе действительно долж но быть по логике так, ведь вспомните воронки на
воде, они ведь сами себя поддерж ивают, просто в в нуж ный момент вода закручивается так как нуж но и с той
скоростью, которой нуж но. Хотя если вспомнить, тот ж е самый смерч, то он ведь разрушается и не стабилен.
тут действительно двоякая ситуация. Я начал смотреть эту тему в интеренете, так как очень зацепила и где то
было сказано , что Шаубергу предлогали в США повторить и то , что он делал для диска Белонце. Но он
отказался под предлогом, что мол для начала пусть все страны разоруж аться, а потом мол я сделаю. Вроде как
это очень опастно и повернуть мож но и в военных целях и оруж ие окаж ется более страшным чем ядерное.
Вобщем информации много , но ничего конкретного, только одни предполож ения. И этот факт очень удручает.
Но вот вопрос, про эту машинку, ведь в том числе и США пытались сделать подобие диска Белонце, и вы думаете
, что они не пробывали делать этот ж е макет? Я сомневаюсь. А если так, то значит не всё так просто, а вернее
всё наоборот очень просто , ведь всё гениальное элементарно! Но мы до этого простого , пока не мож ем
додуматься.

7 Firdus (30.12.2010 19:49) 0

Всем привет.
Да эта машинка заработала, в своём первоисточнике! А вообще извлечение меж молекулярной энергии назвали
"холодной плазмой". Меж молекулярные взаимодействия делятся на 3 составляющие: энергия
электростатического взаимодействия, поляризационное взаимодействие, энергия обменного взаимодействия -
короче это всё мож но найти в химической энциклопедии. Так вот суть вопроса.....как её извлечь? Мы знаем, что
есть и атомная энергия. А так как атом является более мелкой частицей, а значит в одном объёме
сосредоточено больше энергии атомной, чем молекулярной. Для извлечения атомарной энергии необходимо
вывести из состояния равновесия эти силы. Для этого мы прикладываем определённые силы (ну скаж ем в виде
тратила) что приводит к разрушению...........и выделению колоссальной атомной энергии. Для минимальных
энергетических затрат используют материю с максимально неустойчивым состоянием. (к примеру уран
распадается даж е в "нормальном" состоянии).
Ну, это всё отвлечения. Вернёмся к меж молекулярной энергии. В наших "движ ителях" используется вещество
которое имеет неустойчивое состояние. (воздух, вода). Значит из них мож но извлечь меж молекулярную
энергию. Есть установки которые применяются на практике. Подвергая механической деформации воду путём
сильных, неоднократных завихрений из неё извлекают тепловую энергию.

8 Lui (07.07.2011 17:15) 0

"ведь вспомните воронки на воде, они ведь сами себя поддерж ивают, просто в в нуж ный момент вода
закручивается так как нуж но и с той скоростью, которой нуж но" - Само ничто не происходит.... и воронки сами
себя никогда не поддерж ивали... Обычное следствие силы Кориолиса... причем проверьте сами, эти воронки в
северном и юж ном полушарии имеют противополож ное направление вращения, но в пределах полушария всегда
в одну сторону....

9 тарантул (02.12.2014 22:00) 0

А законы,которые нам учили в школе не совсем точны! Нас просто дурят по умнее нас людишки.

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