How To Make Setting Parameter PDF
How To Make Setting Parameter PDF
SETTING PARAMETER
By : Anggun Huda P.
R&D Dept.
Parameters to be discussed is :
I. Clamping Force
II. Charging parameter
a. Charging Speed
b. Back Presssure
c. Metering Position
III. Inject Parameter
a. Inject Position & Transfer (V/P) Position
b. Inject Speed
c. Inject Pressure
IV. Holding Parameter
V. Cooling Time
VI. Barrel (zone) Temperature
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I. CLAMPING FORCE
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Example for part 2453
Projected Area
𝐹 = 𝐴 𝑥P
𝐹 = 2𝑥3. 104 10−6 𝑚2 𝑥 40. 106 𝑁𝑚−2
𝐹 = 240 . 104 N
𝐹 = 240 . 103 Kg
𝐹 = 240 Ton ≈ 250 Ton
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Setting clamping force in the machine
According to information from Haitian technicians, the MA6000 machine
can reach clamping force 600 Ton when maximum pressure is reached.
The maximum pressure from machine is 140 bar (2030 Psi)
So to get clamping force 250 Ton, we set the pressure when clamping
at 850 Psi
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II. Charging Parameter
F4
#1 #2 #3 #4
Suck II.a. Charging speed
Purging/Charging Back
Position MM 20 30 50 75 8 According to PDS (processing data sheet) from BASF,
For PA66 material,
Pressur Setting 80 80 80 80 40
Suggested Peripheral screw speed is ≤ 0,3 𝑚/𝑠
e Mpa Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5
𝜋. 𝐷. 𝑛
Speed Setting 40 40 40 40 25 𝑣=
60 V = peripheral speed (m/s)
% Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 D = screw diameter (m)
60. 𝑣 n = screw rpm (Rpm)
Back Pressure Mpa 6 6 6 6 / 𝑛=
𝜋. 𝐷
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II.b. Back Pressure
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Back
Raw Back Pressure Raw
Pressure
Material (Mpa) Material
(Mpa)
ASA 9.5 ~ 15 ABS 9.0 ~ 18
BDS 3.0 ~ 10 SAN 5.0 ~ 15
HIPS 5.0 ~ 10 GPPS 5.0 ~ 10
PP 6.0 ~ 14 HDPE 7.0 ~18
LDPE 7.0 ~ 18 PA6 2.0 ~ 8.0
PA66 2.0 ~ 8.0 PC 6.0 ~ 15
PBT 5.0 ~ 10 PEI 5.0 ~ 18
PET 5.0 ~ 10 PMMA 13 ~ 28
POM 5.0 ~ 10 PPS 3.0 ~ 15
PSU 5.0 ~ 12 TPU/PUR 1.0 ~ 5.0
MA6000 PVC 4.0 ~ 8.0 ABS+PC 5.0 ~ 12
*Back pressure for common plasics
Piston : 210,0 mm
Rod : 90,0 mm
Screw : 80,0 mm F4 Purging/Charging #1 #2 #3 #4 Suck Back
Position MM 20 30 50 75 8
Inject cylinder area : 56548,7 mm2
Pressure Setting 80 80 80 80 40
Screw area : 5026,5 mm2 Mpa Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5
BACKPRESSURE Setting 40 40 40 40 25
Speed %
Backpress setting : 6,0 bar Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5
Pressur Setting 80 80 80 80 40
e Mpa Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5
Speed Setting 40 40 40 40 25
% Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5
Position MM 20 30 50 75 8
Setting 80 80 80 80 40
Pressure
Mpa
Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5
Setting 40 40 40 40 25
Speed %
Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5
A
*screw dimension in MA5300
Suck
F4 Purging/Charging #1 #2 #3 #4
Back
Screw rpm : 80 rpm = 1,33 rot/s Charging volume (V)
Position MM 10 20 30 60 8 Screw pitch : 70,8 mm
Pressure Setting 80 80 80 80 40 Linear screw speed (v): 70,8 x 1,33 = 94,1 mm/s
Mpa Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 A area:
Setting 50 50 50 50 40
Speed %
Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5 ±5
Explanation: 上图显示填充动画,按 “Shift+ F5” 键可以播放动画。The picture above shows the filling animation, Press
结果说明 "Shift + F5" to play the animation.
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III.a. Inject position
Part volume in injection step 1 :
Step 1 1,404
𝑥100% = 80%
1,755
80
Part weight : 100 𝑥 333,6 𝑔𝑟 = 266,9 𝑔𝑟
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III.b. Inject speed
Step length in step 1 + suckback = 52+8=60 mm (S)
Step 1 Wanted time = 1,404 s (t)
𝑆
𝑣1 =
𝑡
60
𝑣1 = = 42,7 𝑚𝑚/𝑠
1,404
42,7
𝑣1 = 𝑥100% = 39%
110,2
for MA1600II/540e 14
III.b. Inject speed
Position step 1 – step 2 = 11 mm (S)
Step 2 Wanted time = 0,5 s (t)
𝑆
𝑣2 =
𝑡
11
𝑣2 = = 22 𝑚𝑚/𝑠
0,5
22
𝑣2 = 𝑥100% = 20%
110,2
for MA1600II/540e 15
III.c. Inject Pressure
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example pressure drop calculation
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example pressure drop calculation
Answer :
Rheology calculation with
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example pressure drop calculation
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example pressure drop calculation
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III.c. Inject Pressure
MA6000
Piston : 210,0 mm
Rod : 90,0 mm F3 Injection #6 #5 #4 #3 #2 #1
Screw : 80,0 mm Position MM / / / / 12 23
Pressure Setting / / / / 45 90
Inject cylinder area : 56548,7 mm2 Mpa Tolerance / / / / ±5 ±5
Setting / / / / 20 39
Screw area : 5026,5 mm2 Speed %
Tolerance / / / / ±3 ±3
Pressure shot 5 ±1 12 ±1
96,7 Mpa
metering :
IV. Holding Parameter
6.5.5 Input initial holding pressure parameter:
a.Holding pressure: 50%~60% of injection pressure peak value;
b.Holding speed: 10~20%;
c.Holding time:1~2S(please refer to form 4);
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注:模腔内平均树脂压力单位是MPa,()内的单位是kgf/cm
Note: measuri ng uni t for average resi n pressure i nsi de the cavity i s Mpa, uni t of val ue i nsi de () i s kgf/cm 2
表格4:保压时间与壁厚和材料关系表
Form 4: Correlation chart between holding pressure time and wall thickness & material
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V. Cooling time
表格3:冷却时间与壁厚和材料关系表
Form 3: Correlation chart between cooling time and wall thickness & material
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V. Cooling time calculation Tabel Thermal Diffusity
Example for PA66 material :
General thicknes= 1.5 mm
𝑊𝑇𝑚2
𝑡𝑐 =
𝛼
1.52
𝑡𝑐 =
0.1069
𝑡𝑐 = 21 𝑠
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VI. Barrel (zone) Temperature
The basic for determining the temperature of a barrel (zone) is the material type and volume of material required at
shot metering area (front zone).
Semi-crystaline material requires more energy to reach its melting point, than amorphus material
It's easier to reach the melting point. In this case semi-crystaline material will take longer time
To reach the melting point.
Material in the shot metering area and behind (material for charging)
Must be at the melting point condition.
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Heating Band dimension for Haitian machine
from Nozzle, End Cap, Barrel
MA1600II Ø 36 x 40 Ø 60 x 30 Ø 120 x 50 -
MA2500II Ø 36 x 40 Ø 80 x 48 Ø 170 x 55 -
MA2800II Ø 36 x 40 Ø 80 x 48 Ø 150 x 75 Ø 200 x 60
MA3800II Ø 42 x 35 Ø 90 x 55 Ø 170 x 75 Ø 225 x 60
MA5300II Ø 42 x 35 Ø 70 x 48 Ø 210 x 82
MA6000II Ø 42 x 35 Ø 70 x 48 Ø 210 x 82
Ø 80
75 353,8
By : Anggun Huda P.
R&D Dept.
Check injection Pressure & speed part 2453
Injection peak pressure untuk mencapai Saat menggunakan 3 gate, Dengan speed yang sama,
Speed 30% adalah sekitar 76 bar. inject peak pressure yang dibutuhkan mencapai 88 bar
Sehingga pressure step 1 dapat dirubah
Dari 95 bar menjadi 85 bar
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Actual condition
Total inject time + Holding = 3,89 – 3,92 s
Holding time = 1,2 s
Inject time = 2,69 – 2,72 s Injection speed mesin standard :
Berdasarkan perhitungan teoritis, selisih power yang digunakan oleh mesin saat menggunakan pressure
88 bar & 76 bar adalah 16,456 – 14,212 = 2,244 kW
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Berdasarkan grafik diatas, waktu yang dipakai untuk mencapai peak pressure
Adalah sekitar 1,9 detik (0,00053 jam)
Sehingga dalam 1 siklus injeksi ada perbedaan energi (pressure 88 bar & 76 bar) sebesar =
2,244 x 0,00053 = 0,0012 kWh
CT part 2453 adalah 47 detik, sehingga dalam 1 hari (24 jam) produksi ada ± 1800 siklus injeksi.
Sehingga energi yang dihemat dalam 1 hari = 0,0012 x 1800 = 2,16 kWh
Misal harga listrik per 1 kWh adalah Rp 10.000 (asumsi), maka cost yang dapat dihemat dalam 1 hari =
2,16 x Rp 10.000 = Rp 21.600,00 5
Problem Sharing :
1. Bubbles
There are 3 possibility why the bubbles can happen in the part :
- Material drying process is not good
If the drying process is not properly, it will cause the water concentration in the material is still high. The water will be
Vapour when the material is melted in the barrel. So, make sure the drying process run properly according to the standard.
- Cavitation in the barrel (when charging process) *cavitation video
When the charging RPM speed is too high & the difference between theoritical chg.time and actual chg.time is too big,
It will may be cause the cavitation. That’s why BASF give us refference for peripherall screw speed is < 0,3 m/s.
So, we have to make chg. Parameter with speed is below that limit (depend on screw diameter).
And the difference between theoritical & actual chg.time is not too big.
From shot step above, we can know the burnmak is the final
filling area of material flow from 3 gates. When the material
Flows, it will push the air to final filling. When the air is compressed,
The temperature will increase and cause burnmark. If the volume smaller (V2), then the presseure (P2)
And temperature (T2) will increase
Solution : improve setting parameter, make the injection speed
Slower when the position already near with final filling position.
To give chance the air flows out through gasvent. or
Add more gasvent by make new insert
Problem Sharing : Improve sinkmark
We can improve sinkmark condition by add the step in holding parameter.
In this case, we make the holding from 1 step become 2 step.
At 2nd step, we add the holding time 1 s. From injection graph, we can see.
Actually, the material flow is stopped after the holding run for 0,3 s.
We can consider it as cooling time start (when 2nd holding run,
Cooling process also run). So, we can reduce cooling time parameter -1 s
Before After To keep the cycle time is still the same.
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Problem Sharing : Gate burn in 2468
Gate burn, Conclusion : if the flow speed is too high, it will cause
greater friction. As a result of the friction, the temperature
in mold 2468
at the friction area will increase. Regardless of the quality
of gate material is good or not, we already have a reference
that if the flow speed reach 95000 mm/s, it will cause burn in gate.
Screw speed : 45 mm/s So, we have to decrease injection speed. Or change gate design
Ø Barrel : 65 mm
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A barrel : 𝜋𝐷2
4
1
: . 3,14 . 652 = 3316,6 𝑚𝑚2
4
Q in barrel : v x A
: 45 x 3316,6 = 149247 𝑚𝑚3 /s
Ø gate : 1 mm
∅1 1
A gate : 𝜋𝐷2
4
1
: . 3,14 . 12 = 0,785 𝑚𝑚2
4
A total : 2 x 0,785 = 1,57 𝑚𝑚2
Material flow speed at gate position :
𝑄 149247
𝑣= = = 95062 𝑚𝑚/𝑠
𝐴 1,57
Problem Sharing :
L
Mb
Fy = 140 Ton b
Wb
= 140000 x 9.8
= 1372000 N 3,35.106
b
Fx = Fy . tan 10° 106,2
= 1372000 x 0,176
= 241472 N b 31544 𝑁/𝑚𝑚2
Mb = Fx . L
= 241472 . 13,89 Conclusion:
= 3,35. 106 𝑁𝑚𝑚 The insert area receives a bending strain
Much bigger than the bending strain
of the permit allowable material.
So the insert after receiving the recurring force,
It will break.
ℎ. 𝑏 3 𝐼𝑦
𝐼𝑦 = 𝑊𝑏 =
12 0,5𝑏
371,6
13. 73 𝑊𝑏 =
𝐼𝑦 = 0,5 . 7
12
𝑊𝑏 = 106,2 𝑚𝑚3
𝐼𝑦 = 371,6 𝑚𝑚4
Material strain table
Tabel 1-01
Kekuatan Bahan untuk Baja (N/mm2)
Tegangan Tegangan Tegangan Tegangan Tegangan Tegangan
Modulus Modulus Resistan Resistan
tarik tarik bengkok bengkok puntir puntir
Elastisitas Geser Max extension
Bahan berulang berganti berulang berganti berulang berganti
St 52 210,000 80,000 520 320 320 240 430 280 220 190
St 60 210,000 80,000 600 340 340 270 470 300 230 210
St 70 210,000 80,000 700 370 370 320 520 340 260 240
50 Cr Mo4 210,000 80,000 900 860 500 940 540 630 370
20 Mn Cr 5 210,000 80,000 700 700 540 980 600 490 340
0194 & 2452 MOLD
SPRING FORCE TOO BIG
By : Anggun Huda P.
R&D Dept.
Eject Bwd Problem_MA2800
Eject backward movement
So fast, although in setting
parameter already set
Zero “0” (pressure & speed).
The ejector also move back.
Although eject backward button
Is not pressed.
Pressure Mpa 45 45 25 25
Speed % 10 15 15 15
Known : k = 56,4 N/mm Conclusion : The spring reaction force in mold 0194 is about 15,6 kN.
X = 46,34 mm Another mold (2274) that run in same machine, use 4 yellow spring.
n = 6 springs It’s mean the reaction force is about (4/6) x 15,6 = 10,4kN.
And there’s no problem in mold 2274.
It’s too big force, only to push the EP plate back in the normal position.
Calculation : So we can change the spring in mold 0194 with same dimension, but
Σ F = n.k.x With lower spring constant.
F = 6 . 56,4 . 46,34 𝐹
𝑘=
F = 15681 N 𝑛.𝑥
10000
𝑘=
6 . 46,34
𝑘 = 36 𝑁/𝑚𝑚
Problem Sharing :
By : Anggun Huda P.
R&D Dept
Part problem in MA6000:
2482 2453 2484
From the graph above, the most striking difference is the purple line (backpressure graph). In the MA3800 machine,
Backpressure tends to be more stable. While in the MA6000 machine, backpressure tends to be unstable (up and down).
Backpressure is the most influential parameter to the density generated in the shot metering area.
So it can be concluded that the problem in the MA6000 machine is
Possible in the part of the system that regulate backpressure
This is a Flow control valve circuit diagram
in Haitian machine.
The function of flow control valve
is to set the hydraulic oil flow.
One of them is during the charging process,
Flow control valve will inhibit
Outflow of oil from inside
Hydraulic cylinder (backpressure).
So this resistance force will make
density in the shot metering area increases.
Conclusion :
Valve number 10.1, 10.2, 10.3
*hydraulic circuit Haitian machine
Is possible problem.
So it needs to be checked
Production Trial Run 2453 in MA5300
We already try to run production
Part 2453 in MA5300 machine,
For 2 shift production.
And the result is good.
The process is also stable.
After Haitian’s Service
Haitian technicians already check the MA6000 machine. And try to improve setting parameter.
BEFORE BEFORE BEFORE
F8 Temperature℃ F4 Suck F3 Injection #6 #5 #4 #3 #2 #1
#1 #2 #3 #4 #5
Parameter Setting℃ Tolerance Purging/Charging Back Position MM 10 20
#1 285 ±10 Position MM 20 30 62 / / 7 Setting / / / / 40 75
Pressure
#2 290 ±10 Pressure Setting 80 80 80 / / 40 Mpa Tolerance / / / / ±5 ±5
#3 285 ±10 Mpa Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 / / ±5
Setting / / / / 7 25
#4 285 ±10 Setting 40 40 40 / / 40 Speed %
Speed % Tolerance / / / / ±3 ±3
#5 280 ±10 Tolerance ±5 ±5 ±5 / / ±5
Time (s) Position MM Pressure Mpa
#6 280 ±10 Back Pressure Mpa 6 6 6 / / / Toleran Toleran Toleran
Transfer Position Setting Setting Setting
ce ce ce
5,0 ±1 10 ±1
BEFORE AFTER