The document discusses a no spark issue on a 1986 Honda Goldwing SEi motorcycle. It describes that a faulty crank position sensor, which provides the spark timing signal, is likely the cause. Replacing the obsolete original sensor requires sending it to a repair shop, while a used replacement may be found occasionally for sale.
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The document discusses a no spark issue on a 1986 Honda Goldwing SEi motorcycle. It describes that a faulty crank position sensor, which provides the spark timing signal, is likely the cause. Replacing the obsolete original sensor requires sending it to a repair shop, while a used replacement may be found occasionally for sale.
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Post by Dan1985 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:16 am
You have the 1986 SEi, which is almost Idential to the 1985 LTD, different color. Read on, this may be of use to you. You have under the trunk, your fuel injection control CFI computer, which does many things. It for one sends a signal for the spark for each bank 1&3, 2&4 at the proper time. It needs to know where the crank is for these signals. It comes from the Crank position (Ns) sensor behind the timing belts, next to the crank pulley. These are know to go bad, I just experienced this on a LTD I just purchased that has a spark problem. If no signal from the Ns sensor, you will get NO SPARK at the plugs. First try to start the bike, if it does and then dies, BEFORE YOU TURN THE KEY OFF, look under the trunk at the left hand side of the computer, look to see if any LEDs are on. From Left to Right they are labeled (3-2-1-0-W), If 3 & 0 are flashing AND W is solid, the LED's are telling you the Ns sensor (crank Position sensor) at the crank pulley is bad. NOTE: the 3 & possibly 2 LED may be hidden with the mounting bracket. Look in your GL1200 LTD supplement Manual, PG 10-6, you will find the chart, that little computer has a mind of its own, USE IT to your advantage. Page 10-27 will tell you how to check the sensor. The resistance measurement should be 297-363 ohms, if not, bad luck. I removed my timing belt covers, plus the radiator to get to the Ns sensor, I used a heat gun to heat the sensor just a little bit, I had an Ohm meter connected to the two wires up at the connector shown in the book, just in front of the voltage regulator, look you will see the white connector with two wires. Disconnect this connector to check your resistance. As I gave the sensor a little heat, the ohm meter showed me an open circuit, lost its reading. BINGO, BAD Sensor, thats why the bike ran for a few minutes then died. You need a new sensor. Now that you may have zeroed in on your problem, more bad and possibly good news. The sensor (Ns) (30300-MG9-951) is now longer available from Honda, OBSOLETE. I ran a dealer check for the part, no luck on a new replacement. BUT, A dealer in Hendersonville, NC / Shroaders Honda (Tele: (828)693-4101 will repair yours with a substitue sensor. Your will need to send your sensor with wire harness to them, cost $150 Plus S/H, vs the original around $50. OUCH Your other option is to get one off Ebay, Which very seldom come up for action, sellers let it go with a complete running engine. I see one on auction at $175 USED at the present. I have sent mine to Shroaders, for a new replacement. They claim they have been doing this for about a year with no problems with the substitue, so they claim. ??? Mine is due back this week around Friday, I hope. This is my 3rd 1985 LTD, I enjoy picking them up giving them new life and turning them around, with a little profit in my pocket. This and the 86SEi are in my book, a great choice in an older very reliable bike well ahead of its time. HOW EVER certin parts are getting scare and hard to get at times. Especially the sensors. I have found most of the Goldwing electrical components are very rugged, but they do fail at times. I also have a 1998 SE, which is also a great rider for long distance, BUT I DO MISS THE FUEL INJECTION, along with the lighter bike of around 100+ lbs. From Canby, OR / a retired daily rider, 12 months, rain or shine, hot or cold, night or day, but I will not put chains or studed tires on for that suicide ride. Other wise, I am grounded when snow and Ice are present, which may only be a couple weeks in the winter, in the Willamette Valley here in Oregon.
Hope this helps solve your problem, or at least zero in on it.