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Chapter #3

Is it necessary to use a
Rife ray tube to output the frequencies?

It shouldn’t really matter if an instrument uses a ray tube or metal

hand-cylinders and footplates (commonly called pad instruments) as
long as it will devitalize the microorganism we desire. In the next
photo, shown below, we see one of the first pad instruments built by
John Crane and John Marsh back in 1957. You can see the aluminum
disks which were used to come in contact with the skin of the body
and deliver the frequencies.

In the strictest sense of the word just because a ray tube is used
doesn’t mean its “Rife.” There are EM (Electro-magnetic) ray tube
instruments that do not work anything like Dr. Rife's machines
worked, but they incorrectly claim they do. By the time you read this
whole report, you will find out that very few are doing exactly what
Dr. Rife did. But does this mean that these instruments don’t work?
Those who are just building pad instruments are not using ray tubes.
Also, almost all are not using Dr. Rife’s original frequencies. Dr. Rife’s
full frequency range on his laboratory notes went from 15,779 Hertz
to about 18,000,000 million Hertz. His Rife Ray #4 machine
frequencies ranged from 139,200 to 1,607,450 Hertz.

Almost all of those who are building ray tube instruments are also not
using Dr. Rife’s original frequencies or methods. When we consider
the problems we face today with building instruments, the least
expensive instrument that can be built is a metal hand-cylinder type
pad instrument. This type of instrument can produce all of Dr. Rife’s
frequencies output by his Rife Machine. Therefore we should look at
this method carefully and not reject it out of personal bias.

The method used determines the power level that is needed. With
this in mind let’s look at the reasons why metal hand-cylinder type
pad instruments were built in the first place. John Crane and John
Marsh had really good reasons why they built pad type instruments.
After nearly 50 years of research and use, there is enough evidence
that a pad type instrument may work just as well as a ray tube
instrument, but only if there is sufficient power used. In some cases,
because of the electrical stimulation like a T.E.N.S. instrument, they
may work even better than a ray tube on some problems. We will
now take a look at some of the reasons that prompted John Crane
and John Marsh to use metal pads:

RIFE: “But the principle of this thing is basically built on a

coordinative vibration. Just like one tuning fork pitched to the C.
Another one here—you strike this one and this one vibrates.”

DR. LARA: “What kind of vibration is it? Electromagnetic vibration?”

RIFE: “We won’t say magnetic, we will say electronic frequency

vibration. The same as put out on a broadcasting station for the
radio. The same thing you know, only it’s transmitted into a tube.
And the tube acts as a partial directional antenna you see.” (John
Marsh Rife CDs - CD 6 track 2)

In the John Marsh papers describing his trip to Ohio we read a

statement made by Dr. Rife:

RIFE: “You know we had an idea when we had our Clinic in La Jolla,
of course that was battery and motor generator operated that set,
you know, and boy it would sure raise the devil with all the radios so
we had a couple of cars that was equipped with car radios and we
sent them out and we would take the switch of that thing, and had a
code you know like an S.O.S., and one of them went up north, and
one of them went south from La Jolla. Before we started in we
wanted to see how far we were going to disturb things with it you
know, and incidentally we had it in a steel room, a steel lined vault
about this size at the old Ellen Scripp’s home. It was the vault in the
library of the Scripp’s home where they kept their valuable
manuscripts and books in all steel lined and a door on it like a safe.
We had the thing inside of that too, but it didn’t make much
difference, but we started in, and one car lost the pick up on top of
Torry Pines, and the other one half ways through Mission Beach
picked it up, and then they could go a hundred feet and lose and then
they would have to pick it up again. Old Henry [Henry Siner] the boy
that was with us out there, one of the lab boys, boy he went up in
the air. He says, “By God” he says “look, we’re going to fix them up
right. At two o’clock we’ll hook this up to a big radio station, a big
transmitting station, and at two o’clock next week we’ll broadcast for
tuberculosis, and at half past three the week after we will broadcast
for cancer, and everybody at the radio will pick it up”. See, boy I said
Henry that really is an idea.” (1957 John Marsh Trip to Ohio Paper
#24)

In 1960 one of Dr. Rife's close friends, Ben Cullen, stated in a talk
given at a Rife Virus Microscope conference the following:

CULLEN: The fact is, had it not been for certain very, very
unpleasant circumstances, Dr. Rife would've had an arrangement
with KFI or KFSD [Radio stations] where he would have been
broadcasting out over quite a large radius from each broadcasting
station the rays which are responsible for eradicating these various
viruses, which we now know as being "killing" viruses. Just imagine
as you walked around shopping downtown, or out in the street, you
would receive the rays of this wonderful current." (Ben Cullen's 1960
talk given at the First International Convention of the Rife Virus
Microscope #G)

These two statements made by Dr. Rife and Ben Cullen were made
over 20 years after the 1934 clinic. Dr. Rife knew that the frequencies
would broadcast from a metal antenna just as well as from a ray
tube. The fact that he felt that Henry Siner’s idea was a good idea
and the fact that he wanted to use a radio station indicates that Dr.
Rife knew a metal antenna would give the same results as a ray tube.
It is apparent from what we have read that Dr. Rife believed it was
the frequency that was devitalizing the organism and the method of
application really didn’t matter. Clearly, Dr. Rife understood that the
frequencies could be broadcast by a radio station, using a metal
antenna, if they had enough power. These two quotes we read also
give more evidence and confirm the fact the plasma tube had more
than a 30-foot radius range, without using an RF carrier frequency in
the 20 Megahertz range. This is more evidence proving “Resonate
Capacitive Coupling” has nothing to do with the plasma tube 30-foot
or greater radius treatment range.

When John Crane and John Marsh, Dr. Rife’s two business partners in
the 1950’s, came to understand this, they eliminated the ray tube
and used pads or hand cylinders to apply the frequencies. The metal
pads and hand-cylinders work just like a metal antenna except you
do not want too much power so that they are safe to use. The body
also becomes an antenna when you hold the hand cylinders or use
the pads and this is why pad type radio frequency (RF) instruments
work. Bertrand Comparet stated this in his interview:

COMPARET: “Now, Crane said “Well now look, Rife himself admits
that no matter how much tube and ray, and so on, you have, you
can’t get any results unless you’ve got the right frequency. Therefore
the real clue to the thing is the frequency and not the means by
which you deliver it.” Comparet also said: “Well, Crane originally was,
with more modern techniques, duplicating the Rife machine, tube and
all for early experiments. And, as I say, he came to the conclusion
that you just weren’t getting anything additional by the use of the
tube. If you didn’t get the frequency, you could run the rest of it
indefinitely and nothing happened. So, what Crane did, he got an
audio frequency generator. Now, you could make them up yourself
by an awful lot of work, or you could buy a Heathkit audio frequency
generator and get all the same results with a lot less time and effort.
So he was using these Heathkit generators. Now, instead of a beam
projected from a tube, a ray, he simply had two wires. I think they
were aluminium knobs on the end of them, which would be used.
They would be put on the body in such a position that the natural
flow of the current from one to the other would go through the
diseased area, and he got astonishing results.” (1970’s Bertrand
Comparet Interview #33 & 47)

These metal pads or metal hand-cylinders act just like an antenna

when in contact with the body, but only if you have an RF carrier
frequency and sufficient power. This is where John Crane and John
Marsh made a critical error, we believe, and the reason Dr. Rife
probably did not like their pad type instrument. Without an RF carrier
frequency, you cannot use enough power and the audio frequencies
will only go through the connective tissue and not the cell. There are
exceptions to the cell and they have to do with the waveform of the
frequency. If a square wave audio frequency is used then the higher
harmonics produced from this waveform may penetrate the cell to
some degree. How much power from these harmonics penetrates the
cell is not known. But this may explain why instruments that do not
use an RF carrier frequency also seem to work well on small areas of
the body. Even John Crane and John Marsh understood that their
1/5th of 1-watt pad instrument was limited to small areas of the body
due to its low power output. In the 1959 “Electron Therapy Report”
page 5 we read the following:

ELECTRON THERAPY: “In the last years this technique has received
new impetus due, on one hand to the availability and tremendous
progress in electronic parts and test equipment, and on the other
hand, to the discovery of direct application to the body [Metal hand
cylinders and footplates] without the need of an applicator tube [Ray
Tube]. The problem of adequate coverage with this method is
manifold as only small areas of the body are treated at one time with
a single instrument. Additional amplification with metal harnesses or
electrodes covering many areas simultaneously are contemplated for
future development.” (Electron Therapy Report).

As you can see from this report they understood that the low power
level limited their pad instrument to "small areas of the body." Dr.
Rife expressed his dislike for John Crane and John Marsh’s pad
instrument. Bertrand Comparet talked about this fact in a 1970's
interview:

COMPARET: “And I asked Rife, because I thought Rife would

certainly say that the way Crane was working on it then was still
using the Rife principle, but he indignantly denied it.”

DR. HUBBARD: "All right, I see. But, getting back, you say that Rife
was very indignant, that the machine that Crane was building was
really his [Cranes] idea. I suppose he did not compromise on that,
did he?

COMPARET: "Oh no, he just blew up." (1970's Comparet interview

papers #32 & 40)

It is apparent that Dr. Rife was upset about John Crane and John
Marsh’s new pad instrument. Dr. Rife understood that frequencies
could be broadcast from a metal antenna because he was looking at
using a radio station antenna to broadcast the frequencies over a
large area. So the concept of using metal hand cylinders and
footplates does not appear to be the problem. Dr. Rife had built and
used machines for thirty years and he understood what power levels
it took to devitalize microorganisms. Since the concept of using metal
hand-cylinders and footplates has been eliminated then the only
thing left is the power level. So it appears it was the low power level
that was the problem. It wasn’t until about 2003 that the first
powerful metal “Pad” or metal hand-cylinder instrument was
developed which used an RF or radio carrier frequency. Using an RF
or radio carrier frequency finally made it possible to build “Pad”
instruments with high power levels. Using this new method made it
possible to have up to 15 to about 20-watts output power.

In a newspaper article found in "The Evening Tribune entitled “Dread

Disease Germs Destroyed By Rays, Claim Of S.D Scientist” from May
5, 1938 we read that Dr. Rife’s first instrument had an 8 to 10 watt
power output:

EVENING TRIBUNE: "Rife built a simple frequency generating

apparatus of about 8 or 10-watts output. He grew some cultures of
bacteria. Then he began the studies whose reported results now
promise to revolutionize the entire theory and the whole treatment of
the human diseases, other than those of a functional or accidental
nature.”

Since Dr. Rife’s first instrument was an 8 to 10-watt instrument then

it was between 40 to 50 times more powerful than the first pad
instrument built by John Crane and John Marsh. Dr. Rife eventually
increased the power level to 50-watts and one of his ray tube
instruments was about 500-watts. His 50-watt instrument was 250
times more powerful than the first “Pad” instrument. It is no wonder
that Dr. Rife was doubtful about the capability of John Crane and John
Marsh’s first “Pad” instrument with its 1/5th of 1-watt power level. All
of these statements we have quoted show that an instrument that
only has a 1/5th of 1-watt power output is greatly underpowered.
Even with Dr. Rife’s 50-watt ray tube instrument, he treated the
animals within 24 inches of the ray tube because this distance gives
the greatest power absorption range. The doctors that used his ray
tube instrument usually treated their patients within 12 inches of the
patient’s body. Common sense tells us if we are going to use a ray
tube why should we sit 30-feet away when we can sit right next to it
for the greatest possible benefit.

In the photo, shown below, we see another pad type instrument built
by John Crane back in the 1960s. You can see the same disks that he
used to come in contact with the body.

Some people have thought that it was the color of the light from the
ray tube that made the Rife Machine work. But the evidence doesn’t
seem to support that concept either because, in the Gonin Papers of
John Marsh, Dr. Rife said this with regard to the light that came from
the ray tube:

RIFE: “We don’t care about the color or anything of that sort.” (John
Marsh Collection, Gonin Papers, Page 25)

Dr. Couche, while visiting Dr. Rife’s lab with some other men, said:

DR. COUCHE: “There was fifteen inches of concrete on the floor

so as to stop any earthquake shocks from interfering with his work.
And in his laboratory upon the ground floor he had a microscope with
a slide on it that this group of people and myself looked at. And this
was not stained, there was no killing of the bacteria on it. It was just
a fresh culture of the colon bacillus…..Well we all went down under
the stairs into the cellar right immediately under the microscope upon
the floor above us and the Rife machine was down in underneath
there under the culture in the cellar probably I suppose about ten
feet away, eight or ten feet away. And he turned the machine on
and gave it less than a half minute’s frequency for the colon
bacillus...Then he turned the machine off and we all came upstairs
and waited for ten or fifteen minutes. And presently he came back to
his microscope and he said, “Well gentlemen come and look at the
slide now.” Well to my astonishment the bacilli all had been killed and
they were all stacked up on the slide.” (John Marsh Rife CDs - CD 3
track 1)

There is no possible way the light from the ray tube of the Rife
Machine could have penetrated that fifteen-inch concrete floor. It is
obvious that the light didn’t make any difference but that it was the
frequencies that were broadcast through the ray tube. It is easy to
see that there is more than one way to deliver the frequencies. The
ray tube could be easily replaced with metal hand-cylinders and
footpads. It is interesting to note here that Dr. Rife said Abrams’
Oscilloclast would devitalize the BX cancer virus and it was a contact
type device. The waveform the Oscilloclast produced is shown in Dr.
Rife’s 1936 film. John Crane and John Marsh probably used this
contact method because of the success of Abrams’ instrument. The
Abrams’ instrument proved that a contact type device would work
and it was used before Dr. Rife even started using a ray tube. In fact,
Abrams’ contact instrument predates all of Dr. Rife’s work. Metal
“Pad” type instruments like Abrams’ instrument come in contact with
the body. Abram's instrument worked on the same RF principles as
Dr. Rife’s instruments. Pad instruments with an RF carrier turn the
body into an antenna and work on the same principle as a metal
antenna or ray tube. People have been using pad type instruments
without an RF carrier for almost 50 years now and have had good
results. But, in order to work the way the ray tube instruments do, an
RF carrier frequency is necessary.

Also in this above-quoted statement from Dr. Couche, we again see

that the ray tube radius distance did not depend on a higher RF
carrier frequency in the 20 Megahertz range or “Resonant Capacitive
Coupling.” The treatment frequency went through 15 inches of
concrete and an 8 to 10-foot distance demonstrating a large
radius range well over 30 feet.

Chapter Summary: Dr. Rife knew that a metal antenna could be

used in place of a ray tube. Frequency generators that use metal
hand-cylinders or footpads or footplates may work as well as a ray
tube instrument as long as sufficient power is used. The only way to
increase the power level in a pad type instrument is with the use of
an RF (Radio Frequency) carrier. Dr. Rife did not approve of John
Crane and John Marsh’s pad instrument due to its lack of power and
its lack of an RF carrier frequency. Unless you can have a frequency
generator with sufficient power you are better off using a ray tube
instrument with 50 to 75-watts of power output. If a person is
dealing with a very serious condition they may want to use a ray tube
instrument instead of a pad type instrument if they have access to
one.

Many people have wondered if the frequencies that Dr. Rife used are
safe. In chapter 4, we will discuss the safety of these frequencies.

To fully understand how metal hand-cylinder or pad

instruments work this chapter should be read in conjunction
with Chapter 17 and Chapter 18.

(To read Chapter #4)