ssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information By COVID-19 Information < https://covidvaccinesideeffects.com/author/1p21-admin/> January 3, 2022 < https://covidvaccinesideeffects.com/joc-rogan- interview-with-dr-robert-malone-transeript/> 13 Comments < https://covidvaccinesideeffects.com/joe-rogan-interview- with-dr-robert-malone-transcript/#comments> Joe Rogan & Dr. Robert Malone OC c Below you can view the full interview of Joe Rogan with Dr. Robert Malone, who was recently banned on Twitter just prior to appearing on the Joe Rogan Experience. As he mentioned in the interview, he still does not know why he has been banned by Twitter as htpsscovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with-d-rober-malone-ranscript smossi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information of yet. The full transcript is below for those that prefer to read through the dialogue instead of watching or listening to the entire 3-hour plus interview. While it is a very long podcast, it is worth taking the time to listen to the entire discussion. Ace aor uy Ifyou are looking for it on Spotify, here is the link < Experience episode #1757, During this 3 hour long episode, Joe and Dr. Malone talked about a wide range of topics, but some of the most common topics/keywords that came up during the interview included: htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript 2it02‘91122, 632 PM Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information Topic Total mentions vaccine(s) ng virus 42 Omicron 29 media 25 covip 25 children 25 government 31 coc 22 Twitter 20 brain 18 Delta 17 myocarditis 16 spike protein 3 adverse events 12 social media n United States 10 early treatment 10 natural immunity 10 clinical trials 9 news initiative 9 brain fog 8 htpscovidvaccinesideetocts.comoe-ogar-nterviewsith-k-rober-malone-anscriat‘91122, 632 PM Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information blood vessels 8 immune response 8 federal government 7 New York 7 immune system 7 public health 6 financial incentive 6 dna viruses 6 formation psychosis 6 long covid 5 drug repurposing 5 attack article 5 informed consent 5 side effects 5 Rick Bright 5 common variable 5 clininal development 4 early treatments 4 Tony Fauci 4 Francis Collins 4 fringe epidemiologists 4 gastric distres 4 financial incentives 4 htpscovidvaccinesideetocts.comoe-ogar-nterviewsith-k-rober-malone-anscriat‘91122, 632 PM Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information Thompson Reuters 4 genetic vaccines 4 modeling data 4 self censoring 4 ULC. Davis 3 regulatory affairs 3 free speech 3 vice president 3 Brett Weinstein 3 fact checkers 3 Janet Woodcock 3 less toxic 3 pharmaceutical industry 3 original SARS 3 blood presssure 3 pharmaceutical companies 3 clinical trials 3 Peter McCullough 3 Hong Kong 3 negative efficacy 3 memory cells 3 deep loung 3 common cold 3 htpscovidvaccinesideetocts.comoe-ogar-nterviewsith-k-rober-malone-anscriatssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information social distancing 3 Mattias Desmet < https://covidvaccinesideeffects.com/mattias- desmet-on-mass-formation-psychosis/> reporting bias 3 Full Transcript of the Joe Rogan & Dr. Robert Malone, M.D. Interview Below is the full transcript of Joe Rogan Experience episode #1757, including time stamps for the video at the top of this page if you want to jump to that part of the video. Some of the more interesting talking points: + Effort to suppress the use of hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin — starts at 31:48 -om/natur: + 140 studies < https://www.thewellnessway munity-140-studies-of- validation/> show natural immunity is better than vaccine induced immunity ~ 43:29 + Trusted News Initiative and coordinated effort to suppress information around vaccines — 48:59 + Financial incentive for hospitals to report covid deaths — 1:09:01 * Myocarditis study out of Hong Kong < hftps://pubmed.nchi.nlm.nih.gov/34849657/> showed 1 out of 2,700 boys are being hospitalized post vaccine. * Vaccines and menstrual cycles ~ 1:35:28 + “Think twice about giving jabs to your kids. The lipids are going to the ovaries and appear to be effecting menstruation.” — 1:41:16 + Myocarditis in boys 1:43:34 + Brain fog 1:46:49 + Spike proven as a toxin 1:48:43 + T-cell suppression after jabs 1:56:59 + “Our government is out of control” 2:30:22 * On Pfizer: 2:44:22 + Mass formation psychosis 2:47:41 — 2:49:36 htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript art02ssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information + Ifyou have natural immunity, you are at higher risk if you get v + Psychological damage of children 3:01:41 + Defeat the Mandates rally 3:12:02 htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript mi02ssi, 632 PM Speaker Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan «Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information Time 0:12 0:21 0:27 0:29 0:34 0:43 0:57 1:16 17 Text So first of all, thanks for coming. And very nice tie. [laughs] Thanks. Christmas present. Actually Ryan Cole is the one that first got these, and my wife has been jealous ever since. So this is what | got for Christmas. Where does one get a COVID tie? I don’t know. She looked it up on Amazon or someplace and found it. You got to love how industrious some of these folks are. They find a niche. Like, | know what | want to sell COVID ties. And there you go. I got to have a tux for an event that’s coming up in Texas in a couple of months. So my wife is writing to the guy that does the ties and to see if he can make a bow tie that’s got the virus on it. Are you tired of this tired of dealing with this? Do you feel a duty to talk about this? We should just say because historically, we should just state what's happening here. So today is the 30 December and yesterday you were kicked off Twitter. Correct. True. We scheduled this in advance. It's just coincidentally, that you were kicked off Twitter. What were you kicked off? First of all, before we even do this, please tell everybody what your history is and what your degrees are and what you do. htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript art02ssi, 632 PM Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 1:32 Okay. So Im going to do the short version. This can last for an hour if we go into the whole history of mRNA, vaccines and all that kind of stuff. My history. | was originally a Carpenter and a farmhand in the central coast of California and decided that | wanted to go back to school and did two years of computer science and then decided that | didn’t want to spend the rest of my life looking at a computer monitor in a basement. Bad decision and decided that | wanted to try to become an MD, which was a hard thing to try to do in the late 70s. So that was a real stretch. Objective went to UC Davis after two years of undergrad at San Barbara City College and wanted to work on this new tech space called molecular biology and in particular, on cancer. My mother was deathly afraid of breast cancer. And so | looked around and found a laboratory UC Davis with a guy named Bob Cardiff and another guy named Murray Gardner that were working with retroviruses and their links to breast cancer. And it just happened that while | was in there, this is circa 83 84, This whole thing cut loose in San Francisco with the Immunodeficiency syndrome in Men, and the lab ended up right at the forefront of that. Davis is just down the street, basically from San Francisco. And at the Davis Primate Center, they had discovered that there were monkeys that had immunodeficiency. And so | was there in the lab as an undergraduate, as a total bench rat. When Preston Marks and Murray Gardner and others made the first discovery of a retrovirus basis for immunodeficiency in primates. And then Murray went to the pastor, brought back the virus, literally in his pocket, went there with Bob Gallo, met with a guy named Luke Montaigne that you may know, and that kind of kicked off the whole vaccine effort for AIDS. So that’s kind of what | cut my teeth on. And so | came out of that. It was really bold to think that | could get into medical school. And | kind of overshot the Mark. I got an MD PhD scholarship at Northwestern University in Chicago. And so | went from having grown up in Santa Barbara with my wife. We were high school htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript sit02ssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information sweethearts to Chicago, and that was kind of an abrupt transition. So we decided | would do my graduate work at San Diego, and I'd been accepted into a program at UC San Diego that had two of the top gene therapy specialists. | really wanted to do gene therapy with retroviruses. That was what I thought was going to be my life. And so we moved down to San Diego, and | started working in the laboratory of Integra, which is in the molecular biology and Virology labs at the Salk Institute. And this is a place where graduate students normally aren't allowed to go. There was seven Nobel laureates at the time. Plus, Jonas, a really intense, competitive environment, carved out a little niche that | was going to work on from my graduate work, which was asking questions about how retrovirus RNA is packaged. And from that, | had to develop a series of technologies to manufacture RNA and structure it and eventually put it into cells. And that through a cascade of events, being at the right place at the right time. Asking the right questions surrounded by geniuses led to the series of discoveries that now forms the basis of the RNA technology platform that gives rise to these vaccines. And ten issued patents. They were all filed in 89. So that's kind of my origin story that it relates to this virus and vaccine in this. But since then, when | finished my MD did two fellowships at UC Davis. Top pathology for years, set up a gene therapy lab, had many other discoveries, came out to the East Coast, created a technology platform that is now the basis of the company called Inovio. We actually originally founded Inovio in the United States This is pulsed electrical fields. They have one of the DNA vaccines for COVID. Then the planes hit the towers. The investors pulled back, and I went to work for a company called Dyneport vaccine company that had the prime systems contract as government speak for all the bio defense products for the Department of Defense for Advanced Development, which is to say, clinical trials through Licensure. And that’s my kind of transition from being an academic to focusing on htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript sonno2ssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Joe Rogan Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 14:11 actually making things that work in people and the big epiphany. There was that the world is full of these academic thought leaders that publish in big journals and stuff. But that doesn't really lead to products. And | really wanted to make products that would help people. And so since then, for the last, I guess it's about 20 years I've been focused on actually doing stuff, regulatory affairs, clinical development, getting necessary training, etc. Completed a Fellowship at Harvard University Medical School as a global clinical scholar to round out my CY, and I've run over 100 clinical trials, mostly in the vaccine space, but also in drug repurposing. I've been involved in every major outbreak since AIDS. This is kind of what I do. I've worn literally billions of dollars in federal grants and contracts. I'm often brought in by NIH to serve as a study section chair for awarding $80 to $120,000,000 contracts in vaccines and bio defense. I've spent countless hours at the CDC at the ACIP meetings. | have multiple friends at the CDC. | work closely with Defense Threat Reduction Agency, and it’s one of my favorite clients partners, teaming partners, and | work with the chem bio defense group. There's other branches, including the other, this is not the branch that funded the Wuhan Labs. That's another branch of DTRA < https://www.dtra.mil/> . I've got many friends in the intelligence community, so I'm kind of a pretty deep insider in terms of the government. | know Tony Fauci personally. I've dealt with him my whole career, and then we had this particular outbreak, and | was tip of the spear on bringing the Ebola vaccine forward that we now call the Merck Ebola vaccine. I'm the one that got Merck involved. [advertisements removed from transcript] Now, when the pandemic broke out, previous to that, you're kind of thought of as a heretic now in some strange way. htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript swnoessi, 632 PM Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 14:19 14:20 14:43 14:44 14:45 14:46 15:25 Pariah. Yeah, pariah is probably a better word. And the fact that you've been banned from Twitter, it’s very confusing because I've been following your tweets, and I've been reading all the things you've written, and | don't understand how it justifies a ban. And | don't know what was the particular tweet. Did they tell you what the particular tweet was or what the offense was? They never tell you. They never told you They never tell anybody. They removed you for not going along with whatever the tech narrative is, because tech clearly has a censorship agenda when it comes to COVID in terms of treatment, in terms of whether or not you are promoting what they would call vaccine, hesitancy they can ban you for that. They can ban you in their eyes. What they think is a justifiable offense, and they're doing this. And I don’t know who these people are that are doing this, but they're doing one of the most important things about you. Reading out your history like that is to one of the most qualified people in the world to talk about vaccines. Thank you for that. So one way that some people put it is and of course, since this has happened, I've been contacted by multiple lawyers that are looking at filing a suit just like Alex Barons and has one against Twitter. htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript sanozssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 17:19 And the point is made just with what you just made. So the point that | think is kind of succinct on this is if there's no merit to my voice being in the conversation, whether it’s true or not, whether I'm factually correct or not. Let’s park that just for a minute. Whether or not Im right in everything | say, and | freely admit no one's perfect. I'm not perfect that’s one of my core points is people should think for themselves. | try really hard to give people the information and help them to think, not to tell them what to think. Okay. But the point is, if it’s not okay for me to be part of the conversation, even though I'm pointing out scientific facts that may be inconvenient, then who can be allowed and whether you're in the camp that says I'm a liar, and | didn’t invent this technology despite the patents, and there's a whole cohort of that. No one can debate that dispute that | played a major role in the creation of this tech and virtually all other voices that have that background have conflicts of interest, financial conflicts of interest. I think I'm the only one that doesn’t. fm not getting any money out of this. So | think that it starts to touch on some fundamental constitutional principles about rights of free speech. | suspect that's kind of where you're going on that. Well, most certainly, but also how disturbing it is for someone who's not an academic like myself to watch people like you get silenced and silenced in this platform of social media where people are exchanging information, they're posting up studies and you're discussing different parts of this pandemic that are in the news and what the issues may lie in and where your background and your expertise allows you to explain this in a way that maybe it's not being explained because of the narrative that’s being discussed in the mainstream news. And to watch you get silenced. First of all, to watch you get Ostracized. I've seen that. I've seen people distance themselves from you. I've seen people call you a crazy person and criticize you, but with no specific thing to point to, it became like a tag htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript sanozssi, 632 PM Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone «Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 18:20 18:21 18:32 18:33 18:38 18:39 18:44 18:54 18:55 they put on you like, oh, that guy | brought you up to someone and he goes, oh, that guy's crazy. | go, how so there was no answer. Yes. Okay. So this is a thing you're going to just say, someone's crazy when they say something that's inconvenient or say something that makes you uncomfortable because you've decided to accept a certain narrative. Did Twitter warn you? No. Was there any tweets where they said that this is misleading or anything? No, they never do. Do you have any idea what the final tweet was or what the context was? I think | do. And there's no way to confirm it until the lawyers do their lawyering. Now, | did have in the case of when | was banned from LinkedIn. Remember, this happened? | wasn’t aware of that. Yeah. | was deplatformed from Linkedin many months ago, and there was actually two events of deplatforming and Linkedin. And in both cases, | was able to get an explanation for what the specific crimes were. The thought crimes. And in the first one, it was a Tweet Linkedin posting in which | pointed out that the htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript sannozssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 20:21 20:24 20:36 20:38 chairman of the board of Thomson Reuters also sits on the board of Pfizer, and I simply wrote, Does this look like a conflict of interest to you? This gets to your core question about tech. It's not tech. It’s the horizontal integration across all major industries now under the control of common funds, all of these industries, the harmonization of the tech censorship, the interests of Pharma, big media, et cetera, and governments all being harmonized in their messaging globally. | mean, | travel a lot. I see the same. And | have physicians coming to me all the time about what they're experiencing. The same playbook is going on every comment. But getting back to Linkedin. So this is the first event. And Steve Kersh intervened, called up a vice President of Linkedin. And Steve Kersh is a tech guy, right? Yeah. He's a Silicon Valley entrepreneur who you may or may not recall that | was on the Brett Weinstein Dark Horse podcast with Steve. That kind of lit this whole fire up months and months. That's right. Okay. That’s where | first saw him. Yeah. So he has great network connections in Silicon Valley. He invented the optical mouse and so he called his vice President Linkedin. The guy looked into it. Meanwhile, people started dropping off of Linkedin in protest and there was major press articles all over the world, And then they reinstated me and | actually got a very kind letter. This is unprecedented personal letter from this vice President apologizing and saying specifically that they didn’t have the talent to fact, check me. And then therefore they were going to let me go now. Then subsequently, | got dropped again and a phone call was made and they got put on. In that case, the sin was that one of their fact checkers, because remember, this is Microsoft. One of their fact htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript ssn02ssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information checkers had identified. The Atlantic Monthly Attack article was written about me and concluded that | was an anti vaxxer and therefore | should not be allowed on Linkedin. Now, the context for that that's fascinating is that Atlantic Monthly Attack article that is often cited by my detractors, and it’s a fascinating read. We could go down that rabbit hole, but no reason. It was written a few days after Peter Navarro and | came out with an op Ed in Washington Times in which we criticized Biden policy on vaccines and said that they should be reserved for those that need the most and not used universally. And we said some other things about the need of trusting and tools so that people can assess their true risk. It was a political retaliation intended to take me off the map as | was starting to interact more of a public policy sphere. Now, with this Twitter event, my wife and | have racked our brains about what is likely to have been the tweet that triggered this. And you never know. The last two that I can think of. That went out was one that was on our substance in which we referred to a fantastic video that has been put out by the Canadian COVID Care Alliance Group that, summarizes all the malfeasance and data manipulation misinterpretation associated with the Pfizer vaccines and their clinical trials. It’s a supervision and of course, I guess that is interpreted as something that would cause people to become vaccine hesitant, that’s the sin in general is saying things that cause people to become vaccine hesitant. The other thing that | put out immediately before that was a post, a link to a website for the World Economic Forum that lays out their entire strategy for how they manage media, how they're managing Kova 19 and all of their core messaging. I's a fascinating website with links. Those are the only two things | can think of that would meet the criteria. So my position all the way through this comes off of the platform of bioethics and the importance of informed consent. So my position is that people should have the freedom of choice, particularly for their children, and that in order to appropriately choose to participate in a htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript sennozssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 25:00 25:55 25:57 26:03 26:16 medical experiment, they have to be fully informed of the risks as well as the benefits. And so I've tried really hard to make sure that people have access to the information about those risks and potential benefits. The true unfiltered academic papers and raw data, et cetera, and the policy that's being implemented is one in which no discussion of the risks are allowed, because by definition, they will elicit vaccine hesitants. So it can’t be discussed. But that's the fundamental background that's the backbone of informed consent. So informed consent is not only not happening, it’s being actively blocked. Does that make sense? It does make sense, and it's unprecedented. | can’t recall a time ever where people weren't able to discuss the side effects of medication, whether or not the studies are accurate, whether or not people should universally take these things or whether it should be done on a person by person basis. It's a very strange time. And so when someone who's an expert like yourself has a dissenting opinion and you see that dissenting opinion immediately silenced or at least immediately criticized, and then these attempts at silencing, it just signifies how confusing and how troubled the times we're in are when COVID first hit, when the lockdown started happening in March of 2020. What was your position on all this? You're kind of asking my origin story with COVID? Yes. Have you taken the COVID vaccine? So the answer is yes. I've also been infected twice after you took it once before | was infected at the end of February because | was attending an MIT conference on drug discovery and artificial intelligence. This is pre lockdown February. htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript amnozssi, 632 PM Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 26:19 27:43 27:49 28:10 2811 But it goes back further than that. There's a CIA agent that 've co published with in the past named Michael Callahan. He was in Wuhan in the fourth quarter of 2019. He called me from Wuhan on January 4. | was currently managing a team that was focusing on drug discovery for organophosphate poisoning, Ergo nerve agents for Ditcher defense reduction agency involving high performing computing and bio robot screening, high end stuff. And he told me, Robert, you got to get your team spun up because we got a problem with this new virus. | worked with him through prior outbreaks. So it was then that I turned my attention to this, started modeling a key protein, a protease inhibitor of this virus when the sequence was released on January 11 as the Wuhan Seafood Market virus. And I've been pretty much going nonstop ever since. To that point, with drug repurposing, I'm the one that originally discovered the as an agent because | was self treating myself after | got infected with agents that we identified through the computer modeling. So February of 2020, you get infected. And how bad is your case? Bad? | thought | was going to die. You have to remember, | was up on all the latest information from China and everywhere else. | knew all about this virus. I've been watching the videos of people dropping the street. My lungs were burning until | took famotodine. And that relieved that. And what is famotodine. So otherwise known as Pepsid. So just on this tangent, since I’ve said it, I've got some good news to announce. First time here today, we believe we should have the first patient enrolled in our clinical trials of the combination of famotodine and celecoxib for treating htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript saino2ssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Dr. Robert. Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 28:49 28:53 29:30 29:36 SARS-CoV-2. This is trials being run by the company Lidos, which is one of my clients that I've helped design. It’s based on my discoveries. They're funded by Defense Threat Reduction Agency. So this is another drug combination. Now | work with all these folks like Peter and Pierre that | know. You know, Peter McCollough, Pierre Kory. But | haven't pushed this drug combination. | just felt it was inappropriate until we got the trials running. But they're now open. And we passed through the FDA screening process. By the way, we tried to get we had data showing that adding Ivermectin further improved the combination. But the FDA created such enormous roadblocks to us doing an Ivermectin arm that we had to drop it. And by we, what I'm saying is the FDA created so much grief that the DoD decided the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. And they just dropped that on. Why do you think that is? What do you think is going on with the pushback on Ivermectin? So it's not just Ivermectin, it’s hydroxychloroquin. And just to put a marker on that, there’s good modeling studies that probably half a million excess deaths have happened in the United States through the intentional blockade of early treatment by the US government. That is familiar, half a million. That is a well documented number. And it's a combination of hydroxychloroquin. And | remember Mechan now when you ask me why you're asking me to get into somebody's head, what | can say as a scientist is what l observe, the behaviors, the actions, the correspondence, these bizarre things like, don't you know it’s a horse drug, Yall, which is amazingly pejorative. | live in Virginia. Okay, I can tell you the people around me, Ilive in a rural county, and | raise horses. That was deeply offensive to use that language htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript sanozssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 31:10 31:13 31:29 31:30 31:48 31:55 32:16 in that way. But there's clearly been an intentional push. And Zeb Zelenko, who's a buddy, the guy that came out with the original protocols Lanko protocol, and was the one, by the way, that wrote the letter to Trump advocating for hydroxychloroquin. One kind of important to put that together. He's put together a great little video clip in which he clearly documents the conspiracy between Janet Woodcock and Rick Bright to make it so that physicians could not administer hydroxychloroquin outside of the hospital. And who is Janet Woodcock? And who's Rick Bright? Rick Bright was the head of BARDA, the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development, which is the group that, for instance, funded the JNJ vaccine and Operation Warp Speed et Cetera. So they're the big ticket funder in Health and Human Service of by defense products. ‘And who is she? Janet Woodcock was head of Operation Warp Speed for Drugs, and until very recently, head of the FDA. She is known as the person who kind of gets the credit, let's say, for the opioid crisis, for her role at the FDA. So between the two of them, there was some sort of a concerted effort to suppress the use of hydroxychloroquin. Rick Bright, in videotaped testimony, has explicitly spoken about how they conspired to Cook a strategy, using emergency use authorization to make it so that hydroxychloroquin could only be administered in the hospital, which, by the way, is too late for when hydroxy should be used. And why do they do that? htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript 2arnozssi, 632 PM Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 3218 33:09 33:14 33:38 33:39 That is what is the unknown. And there's so many Why's and How's behind this? | like to say there's a stack of stuff that doesn’t make sense. It's about this high. Now | can't prove | can't get into Rick's head. | know Rick quite well. | don’t know what he's currently working for the Rockefeller. He did a whistleblower case, and then he left the government. But all | know is they did this. And Rick admits on videotape that he did it. And he States that the reason was that he believed there was no evidence of hydroxychloroquin being useful for this virus. Now that's false. hydroxychloroquin was known to be effective against SARS-1 Wasn't that regular chloroquin? Hydroxy and chloroquine are closely related molecules. Hydroxy is slightly less toxic, by the way, one of the nice things we had actually filed during Zika, | did a lot of drug repurposing, and | filed patents on the use of hydroxy in Zika, One of the reasons is because hydroxy is one of the few molecules that have antiviral activity that are safe in pregnancy. And you remember Zika was a pregnancy issue. Yeah. So Hydroxy has been out there for a long time is having antiviral effects. And the other part of Rick’s story, that kind of doesn't make sense, that there was no data on efficacy, is that | was the guy that first acquired because | had Chinese connections, the Chinese protocol for treating this virus. | got it in late February, and I sent it into my buddies at the CIA, at the ASPR < https://www.phe.gov/about/aspr/Pages/default.aspx >, at the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response. So the government had those documents htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript 2unnozssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Dr. Robert. Malone Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information when Rick Bright made those determinations. So the assertion that there was no data on hydroxychloroquine at the time when this decision was made, it's just patently false. It's there. So what is the motivation? You're right. None of this makes sense. This is a journalist problem. And, you know, the classic guidance is follow the money. Yea. And it is bizarre that Merck would come out with these explicit statements about the safety of Ivermectin. Both Ivermectin and Hydroxy are on the WHO list of . icinos https://www.who.int/medicines/publications/essenti almedicines/EML_2015_FINAL_amended NOV2015.p df?ua=1>. They have been administered for millions and millions of doses. They're among the safest medicines we know when administered within this acceptable window. Pharmaceutical window. Ivor mechanism is even safer than hydroxy. So Merck coming out out of the blue and saying Ivermectin isn’t safe is really inexplicable now. Another thing is that | sit on the Active Committee for Drugs as an observer. What is the Active Committee? This is the NIH committee that’s guiding the clinical trials for these various repurposed and novel drugs. | saw listened to heard witnessed the representative of Merck that's on the committee because the committee is full of pharmaceutical representatives, even though it’s an NIH public committee explicitly attack the decision for the federal government to test Ivermectin. She said, there's no reason to do this. Now. What's happened since then is Active Sticks is still testing Ilvermecti and they've had to go to a higher dose because as we pointed out, essentially, their initial trial design was designed to fail. It was a short course with an adequate levels of drug. And so now they've upped it to. I think it’s five days and 600 mg per kg. That's the current htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript zanozssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Dr. Robert. Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert. Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 36:42 37:03 371 37:31 37:43 37:45 37:49 37:51 dosing in active six. But there is clearly a concerted effort on the part of multiple players in the pharmaceutical industry in accordance with the federal government to kill Ivermectin as a potential alternative early treatment strategy. And if you're going to follow the money, the problem is, there's not a lot in lvermectin because it is a generic drug and any compound pharmacy can make it and it’s fairly cheap. It's fairly cheap because it's easy to make. You can get Ivermectin in bulk at less than a penny of dose. Wow. So the original SARS? Is it 90% similar to SARS- CoVv-2? Two those terms 90 or 96 or 98. Those are really not irrelevant. You can have something that’s 99.9% similar, and the difference is all the difference. But if Chloroquine worked on the original SARS or it showed efficacy and original SARS, is it safe to assume without adequate tests that hydroxychloroquin would work on. It’s the decision that was made by the Chinese government. Okay, that's my point. | got the original Chinese protocols. This is what they were using. And they were using it effectively? Yeah. htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscriptssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert. Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone «Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 37:52 38:00 38:05 38:08 39:41 39:44 So were they using Ivermectin as well? No. But other countries have, like Japan and India. Uttar Pradesh, as you know, has crushed COVID. Can you explain what they did to do that? Because it’s kind of fascinating. It’s not clear. What are the drugs. So what they did do what we do know. And there's some backstory to this that we could go into if you want to. But the observation is there was a decision made. The virus was just ripping through Uttar Pradesh. It has almost the same population as the United States. It's huge. Okay. Dense, urban, poor, all the characteristics of the stereotypes of the Indian countryside. And the virus is just ripping through there and causing all kinds of death and disease. And the decision was made out of desperation in that province to deploy early treatments as packages widely throughout the province, and it included a number of agents. The composition has not been formally disclosed. It was done in coordination with WHO and whatever was in those packages was rumored to include Ivermectin. But there was a specific visit of Biden to Modi, and a decision was made in the Indian government not to disclose the contents of those packages that were being deployed in Uttar Pradesh, which they're still there. And Uttar Pradesh is flatlined right now. The rest of the world is yelling about Omicron and hospitalizations. Well, South Africa isn't, but UDA Pradesh is still flatlined in terms of deaths. So they were visited by someone in the Biden administration, is that what you're saying? [just know there's a meeting between Joe Biden and Modi. htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript zannozssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 39:48 39:51 40:01 40:16 40:27 40:33 40:35, 40:35 40:37 40:41 41:01 And you believe that out of that meeting? I don’t know what they said. | wasn't invited. All| know is that immediately afterwards there was a decision not to disclose the contents of what was being deployed in Uttar Pradesh. It’s so crazy to imagine that in the middle of a pandemic, there's one place, one area of India that's extremely successful in combating the virus, and they're not going to say how they did it. That's nuts. That's where my stance in all of this is to say, here are the facts. Here are the verifiable data draw your own conclusion. Okay. Now February of 2020, you catch it. What did you take? Fomotodine Fomotodine and anything else? No, there's nothing else available. So, this was so early on the pandemic. Did you wind up being hospitalized? No, | did develop long COVID and people, | always get the "Why did you take the vaccine?” Well, | took it fairly early on. | took Moderna because that’s what the National Guard was deploying in my very rural county in basically central Northern Virginia. Isn't there some evidence that the vaccine actually helps people with long COVID? htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript 2siozssi, 632 PM Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 41:06 41:22 41:28 That was the rumor at the time. | took it for two reasons. | had long COVID. It was supposed to help with that. And I knew | was going to have to travel internationally to France and Portugal in the near future. Now, is there any evidence that the vaccine helps against long COVID? Anecdotally, is there anything? Anecdotally there was and | have not seen a peer reviewed, solid publication or on preprint that supports that now. But that was the active rumor at the time. And since then, what we do know for sure. Well documented. If you've got prior COVID and natural immunity, you have a higher risk of adverse events from the jab. Now, the other part of my story that often gets overlooked. So I took two doses of Moderna with the second dose, | developed stage three hypertension with systolic blood pressure of up to 230. 'm lucky to be alive. What it means is I've had a stress test of my aorta and my cerebral vascular system, and | didn’t have a stroke, and | didn’t tear my aorta all to shreds. But it's a good thing | had irregularities of heartbeat, credible hypertension pot syndrome, narcolepsy, restless leg syndrome. These are all known side effects that are associated with the vaccine. They're relatively less frequent than the myocarditis in the male children in particular. But they're all known on the list of adverse events. And it’s very clear that people that have natural immunity have a much higher risk factor for this whole spectrum of adverse events, if they get jabbed. Even though that's known, there's so many people out there telling people who've just recovered from COVID to get vaccinated. There is a number of things here that are not supported by the science. I'll say gently to be less gentle. Since we're on the Joe Rogan show, | can speak htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript 2annozssi, 632 PM Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 44:02 44:04 44:18 44:23 45:04 freely. It's nucking futs. This is just wrong. It’s not consistent with the data. Well, it doesn't make sense either. What we know about natural immunity is that natural immunity, at least according to that study in Israel, which is like, wh ion peopl k they said tha’ between 6 and 13 times more effective than the vaccine. < https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.2 4.21262415v1> That is 6 or 13 times more effective in hospitalized, preventing hospitalized COVID. It's more like 20 or 27 fold better at protecting against developing the disease. Remember, infection does not equal disease. Right. And that's only one of over 140 studies that document that natural immunity is superior to the vaccine induced immunity. And, oh, by the way, as a vaccinologist and an immunologist, | wouldn't expect anything different. But the CDC recently disputed this, didn’t they? It was a fascinating play. So the CDC, for most of us that are at all objective in the science world, look at what's going on with the CDC. The CDC has just compromised what they did with that was a very small study with intrinsic bias all over the place, much smaller than the Israeli study that you're citing much less rigorous, less statistical power. And they push that out as their justification for their position concerning natural immunity. And who funded that study? htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript anozssi, 632 PM Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert. Malone Joe Rogan Dr. Robert. Malone Joe Rogan «Joe Rogan Interview with Dr. Robert Malone [Transeript and Full Interview }- Could Vaccine Side Effects & Information 45:07 45:08 45:16 45:23 45:31 45:32 45:45 45:46 45:50 45:51 CDC, it would be the federal government. So they funded this study. They did it themselves. The CDC, do you believe they did it with the intent of coming to the conclusion? You're asking me to apply intent and I've had too much time with lawyers, and I'm not going to do it. Good for you. So either way, there's many, many, many studies that point to the fact that natural immunity is superior. Absolutely. Over 140. And also multiple studies that show that people who have had COVID who get vaccinated after the fact have a higher risk, | think it’s between two and four fold. Right? You're on top of the data. Two and four fold risk of adverse side effects. Increased risk. Yeah. Increased risk. So for you, you did not know this when you got vaccinated. What was your thoughts? Since this was a technology that you were pivotal part of the creation of. And so you're getting this vaccine. You probably were thinking, look at this. All my hard htpsseovidvaccinesidestocts.comoe-ogar-nterviow-with--rober-malone-ranscript 2annoz