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CO2 Tune

This document provides instructions for tuning a QB-78 Co2 airgun. It outlines 5 steps for the tune: prep tools and seals, tear down, valve bolt barrel, trigger, and build up. Several modifications are described to improve gas flow including angling the valve stem, enlarging ports, and smoothing sharp edges. The expected performance gains with this tune are listed as 740fps for .22 caliber and 800fps for .177 caliber with 30 good shots per Co2 charge. Tools needed and replacement seals are also detailed.

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CO2 Tune

This document provides instructions for tuning a QB-78 Co2 airgun. It outlines 5 steps for the tune: prep tools and seals, tear down, valve bolt barrel, trigger, and build up. Several modifications are described to improve gas flow including angling the valve stem, enlarging ports, and smoothing sharp edges. The expected performance gains with this tune are listed as 740fps for .22 caliber and 800fps for .177 caliber with 30 good shots per Co2 charge. Tools needed and replacement seals are also detailed.

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CO2 tuneup by
b Craiig

QB
B-78 Tu
une

You can
n either read the tune up procedu
ure from
b page or do
this web ownload.

First let me say thanks for the customers


c over
o the pa
ast five yeaars. The
reasons I'm m getting out
o of the tuning biz, I want somme time for myself. I
didn't do this
t full time, I have a job, family
y and hobbies and no time. I
might do a few tunes s this summ
mer but nott right now.. So as I sa
aid in the
past I'm going to outtline the tunne for the QB's
Q Co2 (a
all) and the Crosman
160's

our not mec


Next, if yo chanically innclined donn't attempt this tune. Also I
don't take any responnsibility forr you screw
wing up your gun. So d don't email
me and sa ay, Hey I messed
m up my
m (fill in th
he blank.) Cut the Middle Man
and Get yoour parts direct

s to tuning
5 steps g your QB--78:

Prep toools seals


Teardowwn
Valve boolt barrel
Trigger
p
Build up

Hands tools:
t

Steel or brass rod 18" or bettter 1/2 dia


6" flat screwdriver
12-14" wide
w blade screwdriveer
#2 Philliips
3mm Alllen
Honing stone
s

Seals:

2 ea 9/1
16x3/4 sizee #113 Vito on, EPDM, or o polyureth
hane 70
duromete er or betterr (These arre for the ca
ap and valv
ve body
DO NOT USE BUNA//NITRILE HERE H THEY WON'T WO ORK.)
3ea 3/8xx1/2 Size #012
# Buna (Barrel sea als)
6" 1/4 OD
O poly tub bing (Breech seal)
22cal bo
olt seal 1/8x1/4 size #006
# Buna
177 1x33 mm
I use 1/16x3/16 Siize #003 affter I cut a new groov ve for the
bolt. This
s will be shown in the steps laterr.

Tear do
own:

This is straight
s to the
t point
Safe to safe and pu unch out
Remove e
Stock nu ut action
Allen on breech
Rear sigght
Barrel band screw
Barrel (ttwist back and
a forth)
Phillips in
i breech Trigger
T Breeech
Hammerr pins
Rear cap ps
Stock sttud
Valve sccrew
Hammerr Assembly y
From fro ont cap side
e drive out the valve, don't worrry about
the seal it's going to
o be replacced anywayy. The stockk stud
nut will come
c out with
w it.
Allen in the back of the bolt
Handle
Bolt

QB-78 Ma ajor Mod Diagrams


D
o Craig Pittts- Co2unes
Courtesy of s

22xx Breech
B 22xx Tube Barre
el Band

Barrel Tube
2
22xx Coverr QB Barrel
B
End

Q Tube End
QB

(Click above
e images for larger view)

This is the
e way I tunee them. It's
s been tested and pro oved by 100 0's of
guns, as said in the beginning;
b any variation to this process
p is o
on you.
Basically the tune is a port and Valve job. We're goin ng to knockk most of
the sharp corners off and angle the 90deg turns and open the ports. Any
90deg the gas sees, it sees as a restriction. Some of you motor heads
just went AH-HA! I see. You see the basic Co2 gun is just a single stroke
single piston engine, Piston =Pellet, fuel = Gas. That's it. Just like a
hotrod the more flow the more go and remember the more go the less
MPG or in this case shots per charge. With this tune you should expect
.22 upwards to 740fps 16fpe .177 800fps 12fpe, 30 good shots
depending on Temp and pellet weight. No joke, no jive, just fact!

Tune:
Valve Disassembled
First get rid of the packing and screen, the newer guns don't use this and
it's is a major restriction.

Stem:
I angle the stem in the lathe by holding the head from the
seal side, turning the compound to 10-12 degs. Taper the
head to about .200-.187" at the point. Turn it around and
break the sharp edge on the seal side, don't get over
zealous. I little goes a long way. Make sure you clean the
filings of the seal. Click for
larger pix >>

You can open the seat area to #7 drill .201" and with a long 30deg
Countersink dress the seat to a smooth angle. The angle isn't a must but
it give 3-5 fps.

Exit port though most new guns are opened up and angled
if you have a older gun ,the port can be open up to .187
no bigger, any bigger and she won't seal and angled back.
Don't cut the seat on your angle ,if you do your done go
on home and order another gun. Top Drill .125" .125"
from the edge in the slot. Clean up the burr inside.
<< Click for larger pix

Pierce pin:
This can be done on a bench grinder, angle back the nose to just blend
into the point about 30degs. This is to guide the pin up through the top
hole. If you're bulking the pin can be eliminated completely. Click for larger
pix >>

Replace the body seal and reassemble don't tighten the valve body. This
will be done this the Co2 tube. To make sure every this is hunky dory,
press the stem down on a hard surface to compress and open the valve
look for the pin to come up with no major binding. If it does tear it down
and reassemble.

Two ways to do this is by hand and machined.


In the lathe part off the tip to just behind the port, Drill #42 drill to .625
deep. Cut the sharp end off the #6 finish nail and dress a lead in. super
glue the nail in, Cut off to no longer than .500" dress the probe to a nice
radius. The .22 cal is done.

On the .177 your going to open up the o ring groove to a groove .070"
wide x .040 deep. I use a straight pin as a tire iron to get the o ring on.
Have a couple extra they're a bear to get on.
Hand method:
m

Drill the en
nd of the .2
22 to 5/32""
Drill the en
nd of the .1
177 to 9/644"
This can be done in a drill press
s with a vice
e.

Bolt Probe
e
Click for larger pix

Barrel:
This is the
e biggest arrea of restriction; the port is about 3mm dia a. way to
tiny. I cut mine in thee mill with a .125" endmill centeered in the port .125
to each sidde, That is to say overr all .250" port
p from o ring groovve to o
ring groovve. After thaat, I make a lead in with
w a .375 ball nose endmill;
this shouldd just kiss the
t leading edge of th
he o ring grrooves.

You can op pen up the port by jus


st drilling. The
T .22 can
n be opened up to
#16 drill and
a the .177 to 9/64 then
t make a lead in with
w a countter sink.
DO NOT GOG BIGGER THE THESE E HOLES!!! If you do thet head off the pellet
might dropp in the porrt jam and wad up. Th he fix, new barrel, or machine a
new end and
a chambe er it…Believ
ve me, no fun…..
f

Click for larger pix

Trigger:
one the matting surface
Sto es of the se
ear and trig
gger, I use a spring
bas
sed on a he eavy ballpoint pen sprring from a Pilot pen. O
Oil lightly.
Sett the trigge
er travel now
w.

R
Reassemb le:
Witth some exceptions th he valve goes in from the cap sid de, Oil the
o riing with some light oil to help it slide, makee sure the port is
aliggned with the port on the tube, and
a gently tap it homee. Try not
to go
g past thee port up th
he o ring, iff you do moore than lik
kely you'll
cutt the o ring and have to
t start ove er. With thee valve hom
me put the
screw in and tighten
t the valve body y use the big
b flat tip. Y
You want
it snug, All your doing is seating the o ring. So o don't get Jethro on
it.

Hammmer you can add 20 0-30 fps by shimming the hamme er with
som
me #10 washer 5/8 diia. This shims up the hammer sp pring for
moore wallop. Here's the catch, it's a little morre difficult tto put the
bre
eech on. You have to catch
c the back pin witth the bolt c compress
the
e spring and
d drop it doown on the front pin all
a while kee eping the
bre
eech seal in
n place. If the front pin
n jumps ou ut the front bolt notch
and you don't catch it after you put the breech screw in and push
the bolt forward she'll lock right there. Not good if you've probed
the gun. You can get it off but it's not healthy for the probe. Also,
if you do these, when charging you have to do it this way, or it'll
blow gas. Open the bolt keep it open, load your carts, twist the
cap down till its good tight, back the cap off till she hisses, cock
the bolt and fire.

Well that's it hope you enjoy the procedure and Pics. See you in
the funny papers. And always remember

Springer's maybe hot, But Co2 is Cool!!!!

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