OSG Comment
OSG Comment
Supreme Court
Manila
EN BANC
Respondents.
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EXECUTIVE SECRETARY
SALVADOR C. MEDIALDEA,
ANTI-TERRORISM COUNCIL
(ATC), ANTI-MONEY
LAUNDERING COUNCIL
(AMLC), SENATE OF THE
REPUBLIC OF THE
PHILIPPINES, represented by
SENATE PRESIDENT VICENTE
C. SOTTO III, and THE HOUSE
OF REPRESENTATIVES,
represented by SPEAKER
ALAN PETER S. CAYETANO,
Respondents.
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CHRISTIAN S. MONSOD,
FELICITAS A. ARROYO, RAY
PAOLO J. SANTIAGO,
AMPARITA STA. MARIA,
MARIA ILSEA W. SALVADOR,
MARIANNE CARMEL B.
AGUNOY, XAMANTHA XOFIA
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SANLAKAS, represented by
Marie Marguerite M. Lopez,
Petitioner,
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PREFATORY STATEMENT
1
Preamble of the 1987 Philippine Constitution
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2
https://theaseanpost.com/article/why-philippines-needs-anti-terror-bill, last accessed on July 14, 2020.
3
Section 2, Anti-Terrorism Act.
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4
SEC. 3. Terrorism. — Any person who commits an act punishable under any of the following provisions
of the Revised Penal Code:
a. Article 122 (Piracy in General and Mutiny in the High Seas or in the Philippine Waters);
b. Article 134 (Rebellion or Insurrection);
c. Article 134-a (Coup d’Etat), including acts committed by private persons;
d. Article 248 (Murder);
e. Article 267 (Kidnapping and Serious Illegal Detention);
f. Article 324 (Crimes Involving Destruction), or under
(1) Presidential Decree No. 1613 (The Law on Arson);
(2) Republic Act No. 6969 (Toxic Substances and Hazardous and Nuclear Waste Control Act of
1990);
(3) Republic Act No. 5207, (Atomic Energy Regulatory and Liability Act of 1968);
(4) Republic Act No. 6235 (Anti-Hijacking Law);
(5) Presidential Decree No. 532 (Anti-Piracy and Anti-Highway Robbery Law of 1974); and,
(6) Presidential Decree No. 1866, as amended (Decree Codifying the Laws on Illegal and Unlawful
Possession, Manufacture, Dealing in, Acquisition or Disposition of Firearms, Ammunitions or
Explosives)
thereby sowing and creating a condition of widespread and extraordinary fear and panic among the
populace, in order to coerce the government to give in to an unlawful demand shall be guilty of the crime
of terrorism and shall suffer the penalty of forty (40) years of imprisonment, without the benefit of parole
as provided for under Act No. 4103, otherwise known as the Indeterminate Sentence Law, as amended.
5
G.R. Nos. 178552, 178554, 178581, 178890, 179157, and 179461, October 5, 2010.
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6
Explanatory Note of Senate Bill No.6 authored by Senator Vicente Sotto III; citations omitted.
7
Dabiq: Remaining and Expanding (Muharram 1436 or November 2014) ; Annex “1
8
20 Dead After Bombing of Cathedral in Southern Philippines, https://thediplomat.com/2019/01/20-dead-
after-bombing-of-cathedral-in-southern-philippines/, last accessed on July 11, 2020.
9
At least 18 injured in Sultan Kudarat explosion, https://www.rappler.com/nation/227333-isulan-sultan-
kudarat-explosion-april-2019, last accessed on July 11, 2020.
10
At least 7 hurt in Isulan IED explosion, https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1161960/at-least-7-hurt-in-isulan-ied-
explosion, last accessed on July 11, 2020.
11
Philippines: 1st known Filipino suicide attacker identified,
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/philippines-1st-filipino-suicide-attacker-identified-
64078506, last accessed on July 11, 2020.
12
Indanan, Sulu suicide bomber a Female: PNP, https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1080653, last accessed on
July 11, 2020.
13
Panfilo M. Lacson, Sponsorship Speech for the Anti-Terrorism Act of 2019 (18th Congress),
https://pinglacson.net/2019/10/02/sponsorship-speech-for-the-anti-terrorism-act-of-2019-18th-congress/,
last accessed on July 16, 2020.
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14
Explanatory Note of House Bill No. 551, authored by Rep. Rozanno Biazon.
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Explanatory Note of Senate Bill No. 6 authored by Senator Vicente Sotto III.
16
Explanatory Note of Senate Bill No. 21 authored by Senator Panfilo Lacson.
17
Threats to International Peace and Security Caused by Terrorist Acts, Annex “11”.
18
High-level Meeting of the Security Council: Combating Terrorism, Annex “12”.
19
Threats to International Peace and Security Caused by Terrorist Acts, Annex “13”.
20
Threats to International Peace and Security (Security Council Summit 2005), Annex “14”.
21
Asia/Pacific Group on Money Laundering (APG), Anti-money laundering and counter-terrorist financing
measures in the Philippines, http://www.fatf-gafi.org/media/fatf/documents/reports/mer-fsrb/APG-
Mutual-Evaluation-Report-Philippines.pdf, last accessed on July 16, 2020.
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ATTACHED DOCUMENTS
Annex Description
1 Dabiq: Remaining and Expanding
(Muharram 1436 or November 2014)
Senate Deliberations
2 TSN dated December 17, 2019
3 TSN dated January 21, 2020
4 TSN dated January 22, 2020
5 TSN dated January 27, 2020
6 TSN dated January 28, 2020
7 TSN dated February 3, 2020
8 TSN dated February 19, 2020
House Deliberations
9 TSN dated June 2, 2020, 6:35 p.m.
10 TSN dated June 2, 2020, 8:10 p.m.
United Nations Security Council
Resolutions
11 UNSC 1373, Threats to International
Peace and Security Caused by Terrorist
Acts
12 UNSC 1456, High-level Meeting of the
Security Council: Combating Terrorism
13 UNSC 1566, Threats to International
Peace and Security Caused by Terrorist
Acts
14 UNSC 1624, Threats to International
Peace and Security (Security Council
Summit 2005
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ARGUMENTS
Procedural Arguments
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Substantive Arguments
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i. A secret tap of
communications under Section
16 can only be done after a
determination of probable
cause by the Court of Appeals
and therefore does not violate
the right to privacy.
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v. Proscription is a judicial
process.
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DISCUSSION
22
Chamber of Real Estate and Builder’s Associations Inc. (CREBA) v. Energy Regulatory Commission
(ERC), et al., G.R. No. 174697, July 8, 2010.
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27
Emphasis supplied.
28
Lozano v. Nograles, G.R. Nos. 187883 and 187910, June 16, 2009.
29
Francisco v. House of Representatives, et al., G.R. No. 160261, November 10, 2003.
30
Ibid.
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Makabayan Petition, pp. 4-6, 8-11.
32
Southern Hemisphere Engagement Network, Inc. v. Anti-Terrorism Council, et al., supra.
33
G.R. No. 141284, August 15, 2000.
34
Biraogo v. The Philippine Truth Commission, G.R. No. 192935, December 7, 2010.
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Southern Hemisphere Engagement Network, Inc. v. Anti-Terrorism Council, et al., supra.
36
Southern Hemisphere Engagement Network, Inc. v. Anti-Terrorism Council, et al., supra.
37
G.R. No. 204603, September 24, 2013.
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Biraogo v. Nograles, supra.
39
G.R. No. 113375, May 5, 1994.
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The doctrine of
transcendental importance
is not a magic wand that
can be waved effortlessly
to ward off the duty of
petitioners to establish a
justiciable case that merits
the time and attention of
this Honorable Court.
40
Biraogo v. Nograles, supra; citing Kilosbayan, Inc. v. Guingona, Jr, supra; Francisco v. House of
Representatives, G.R. No. 160261, November 10, 2003; Senate v. Ermita, G.R. No. 169777, April 20, 2006;
CREBA v. ERC and Meralco, G.R. No. G.R. No. 174697, July 8, 2010.
41
Francisco v. House of Representatives, G.R. No. 160261, November 10, 2003.
42
G.R. No. 166052, August 29, 2007.
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43
In The Matter Of: Save The Supreme Court Judicial Independence And Fiscal Autonomy Movement Vs.
Abolition Of Judiciary Development Fund (Jdf) And Reduction Of Fiscal Autonomy, UDK-15143, January
21, 2015.
44
Gios Samar, Inc. v. Department of Transportation and Communications and Civil Aviation Authority of
the hilippines, G.R. No. 217158, March 12, 2019.
45
Supra.
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46
Jurado Petition, pars. 103, 110, 118, and 121, pp. 25-28.
47
Supra.
48
Emphasis supplied.
49
Roy v. Herbosa, G.R. No. 207246, 22 November 2016.
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Art. VIII, Sec. 1, 2nd par. of the Constitution.
51 Garcia vs. The Executive Secretary, et al., G.R. No. 157584, April 2, 2009.
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G.R. No. L-45081, July 15, 1936.
53
The Provincial Bus Operators Association of the Philippines v. DOLE, G.R. No. 202275, July 17, 2018;
citing Philippine Association of Colleges and Universities v. Secretary of Education, G.R. No. L-5279,
October 31, 1955.
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Council of Teachers v. Secretary of Education, G.R. Nos. 216930, 217451, 217752, 218045, 218098, 218123,
and 218465, October 9, 2018.
55
Supra.
56
Council of Teachers v. Secretary of Education, supra.
57
Supra.
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58
Supra.
59
Zarate Petition, par. 79, p. 28.
60
Supra.
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61
Emphasis in the original; citations omitted.
62
G.R. No. 160031, December 18, 2008.
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63
Social Justice Society v. Lina, supra; citing Bayan Telecommunication, Inc. v. Republic, G.R. No. 161140,
January 31, 2007; citations omitted.
64
SECTION 1. Who may file petition. — Any person interested under a deed, will, contract or other written
instrument, or whose rights are affected by a statute, executive order or regulation, ordinance, or any other
governmental regulation may, before breach or violation thereof, bring an action in the appropriate
Regional Trial Court to determine any question of construction or validity arising, and for a declaration
of his rights or duties, thereunder.
…
65
Supra.
66
Disini v. Executive Secretary, G.R. No. 203335, February 18, 2014.
67
Emphasis supplied; citations omitted.
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Estrada v. Sandiganbayan, G.R. No. 148560, November 19, 2001.
69
G.R. No. 167011, April 30, 2008.
70
Southern Hemisphere Engagement Network, Inc. v. Anti-Terrorism Council, supra.
71
Disini v. Executive Secretary, supra.
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72
Disini v. Executive Secretary, supra.
73
Ibid.
74
Republic Act No. 10175.
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79
Calleja Petition, page 7.
80
Sta. Maria Petition, page 9; Emphasis supplied.
81
Monsod Petition, p. 4.
82
Zarate Petition, p. 7.
83
CTUHR Petition, p. 3.
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G.R. No. 209287, July 1, 2014.
85
G.R. No. 222702, April 5, 2016.
86
G.R. No. 225442, August 8, 2017.
87
G.R. No. 232131, April 24, 2018.
88
G.R. No. 210500, April 22, 2019.
89
G.R. No. 71977, February 27, 1987.
90
G.R. No. L-29894, March 28, 1969.
91
Morales, Jr. v. Ombudsman, G.R. No. 208086, July 27, 2016.
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92
SPARK v. Quezon City, supra.
93
Republic v. Roque, supra.
94
Garcia v. Executive Secretary, et al., supra.
95
G.R. No. 189793, April 7, 2010.
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Heirs of Ardona v. Reyes, G.R. Nos. L-60549, 60553 to 60555, October 26, 1983.
97
Estrada v. Sandiganbayan, supra.
98
Peralta v. Commission on Elections, G.R. No. L-47771, March 11, 1978.
99
Betoy v. Board of Directors, G.R. Nos. 156556-57, October 4, 2011.
100
See Morales, Jr. v Ombudsman, et al., supra.
101
Supra.
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Emphasis supplied.
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Emphasis supplied.
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108
Lidasan v. Commission on Elections, L028089 (1967); Insular Lumber v. CTA, 104 SCRA 710 (1981).
109
Ibid.
110
Jurado petition, p. 18.
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SEC. 18. Period of Detention Without Judicial Warrant of Arrest. — The provisions of Article 125 of the
Revised Penal Code to the contrary notwithstanding, any police or law enforcement personnel, who,
having been duly authorized in writing by the Anti-Terrorism Council has taken custody of a person
charged with or suspected of the crime of terrorism or the crime of conspiracy to commit terrorism shall,
without incurring any criminal liability for delay in the delivery of detained persons to the proper judicial
authorities, deliver said charged or suspected person to the proper judicial authority within a period of
three days counted from the moment the said charged or suspected person has been apprehended or
arrested, detained, and taken into custody by the said police, or law enforcement personnel: Provided,
That the arrest of those suspected of the crime of terrorism or conspiracy to commit terrorism must result
from the surveillance under Section 7 and examination of bank deposits under Section 27 of this Act.
The police or law enforcement personnel concerned shall, before detaining the person suspected of the
crime of terrorism, present him or her before any judge at the latter’s residence or office nearest the place
where the arrest took place at any time of the day or night. It shall be the duty of the judge, among other
things, to ascertain the identity of the police or law enforcement personnel and the person or persons they
have arrested and presented before him or her, to inquire of them the reasons why they have arrested the
person and determine by questioning and personal observation whether or not the suspect has been
subjected to any physical, moral or psychological torture by whom and why. The judge shall then submit
a written report of what he/she had observed when the subject was brought before him to the proper court
that has jurisdiction over the case of the person thus arrested. The judge shall forthwith submit his/her
report within three calendar days from the time the suspect was brought to his/her residence or office.
Immediately after taking custody of a person charged with or suspected of the crime of terrorism or
conspiracy to commit terrorism, the police or law enforcement personnel shall notify in writing the judge
of the court nearest the place of apprehension or arrest: Provided, That where the arrest is made during
Saturdays, Sundays, holidays or after office hours, the written notice shall be served at the residence of
the judge nearest the place where the accused was arrested.
The penalty of ten (10) years and one day to twelve (12) years of imprisonment shall be imposed upon the
police or law enforcement personnel who fails to notify and judge as provided in the preceding paragraph.
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The presidential
certification dispensed with the
requirement not only of printing
but also that of reading the bill
on separate days. The phrase
"except when the President certifies
to the necessity of its immediate
enactment, etc." in Art. VI, Section
26[2] qualifies the two stated
conditions before a bill can become
a law: [i] the bill has passed three
readings on separate days and [ii] it
has been printed in its final form
113
Emphasis supplied.
114
G.R. No. 115455, August 25, 1994.
115
G.R. Nos. 196271, 196305, 197221, 197280, 197282, 197392 & 197454, October 18, 2011.
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118
Emphasis supplied.
119
Jurado Petition, Annexes “C ” and “D.”
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Abogado v. Department of Environment and Natural Resources, G.R. No. 246209, September 3, 2019.
121
Feria y Pacquing v. Court of Appeals, G.R. No. 122954, February 15, 2000.
122
Jurado Petition, p. 11, par. 33.
123
Id., at p. 14, par. 42.
124
Lagman Petition, p. 13, par. 51.
125
Section 3, Rule 132, Revised Rules of Court.
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132
Lagman Petition, pars. 52-57, 61, pp. 16-17.
133
Lagman Petition, pars. 64-67, pp. 17-18.
134
Zarate Petition, par. 45, p. 18.
135
Zarate Petition, par. 144, p. 49.
136
G.R. No. L-10520, February 28, 1957.
137
G.R. No. 179267, June 25, 2013.
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142
Id.
143
See Substantive and Procedural Facts of this Consolidated Comment.
144
Section 18, Article VI, 1987 Constitution,
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Abas Kida v. Senate of the Philippines, infra.
146
G.R. No. 196271, 18 October 2011.
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152
Cf. Abas Kida v. Senate of the Philippines, supra.
153
G.R. Nos. 171396, 171409, 171485, 171483, 171400, 171489, and 171424, May 3, 2006.
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154
Emphasis supplied.
155
G.R. No. 227635 (Resolution), October 15, 2019.
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Rubrico v. Macapagal Arroyo, G.R. No. 183871, February 18, 2010.
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Levi Strauss & Co. v. Blancaflor, G.R. No. 206779, April 20, 2016.
158
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Lagman Petition, p. 54.
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163
Section 4, Rule 7, Revised Rules of Court.
164
Chua v. Torres, et al., G.R. No. 151900, August 30, 2005.
165
Section 5, Rule 7, Revised Rules of Court.
166
Supra.
167
Argallon-Jocson, et al. v. Court of Appeals, G.R. No. 162836, July 30, 2009.
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SUBSTANTIVE ARGUMENTS
168
Garbo v. Court of Appeals, G.R. No. 107698, July 5, 1996.
169
Rephrased from a passage in Mediserv, Inc. v. CA, G.R. No. 161368, April 5, 2010. The original reads: “It
is settled that liberal construction of the rules may be invoked in situations where there may be some
excusable formal deficiency or error in a pleading, provided that the same does not subvert the essence of
the proceeding and connotes at least a reasonable attempt at compliance with the rules. After all, rules of
procedure are not to be applied in a very rigid, technical sense; they are used only to help secure substantial
justice.”
170
Supra.
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171
Citations omitted and emphasis supplied.
172
Chavez v. Romulo, G.R. No. 157036, June 9, 2004.
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173
Separate Opinion of J. Leonen in SPARK v. Quezon City, supra.
174
SPARK v. Quezon City, supra.
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177
See Substantive and Procedural Facts of this Consolidated Comment.
178
Panfilo M. Lacson, Sponsorship Speech for the Anti-Terrorist Act (17th Congress),
https://pinglacson.net/2019/02/06/sponsorship-speech-anti-terrorism-act-of-2019/, last accessed on July 14,
2020.
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179
RTC of Taguig City, finding accused NUR A. SUPIAN guilty of committing acts falling under Section 3
of the Human Security Act.
180
Human Rights, Terrorism and Counter-terrorism,
https://www.ohchr.org/documents/publications/factsheet32en.pdf, last accessed July 10, 2020.
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Available at https://www.ohchr.org/documents/publications/factsheet32en.pdf, last accessed July 10,
2020.
182
Panfilo M. Lacson, Sponsorship Speech for the Anti-Terrorism Act (17th Congress),
https://pinglacson.net/2019/02/06/sponsorship-speech-anti-terrorism-act-of-2019/, last accessed on July
16, 2020.
183
Panfilo M. Lacson, Sponsorship Speech for the Anti-Terrorism Act of 2019 (18th Congress),
https://pinglacson.net/2019/10/02/sponsorship-speech-for-the-anti-terrorism-act-of-2019-18th-congress/,
last accessed on July 16, 2020.
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184
Emphasis supplied.
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Senator Drilon. …
185
TSN dated January 28, 2020; Annex “6”.
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TSN dated December 17, 2019, pp. 48-50; Annex “2”; Emphasis supplied.
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i. Surveillance of suspects;191
ii. Interception and recording of
communications; 192
190
Section 19, Anti-Terrorism Act.
191
Section 16, Anti-Terrorism Act.
192
Section 16, Anti-Terrorism Act.
193
Section 26, Anti-Terrorism Act.
194
Section 34, Anti-Terrorism Act.
195
Section 29, Anti-Terrorism Act.
196
Ibid.
197
Ibid.
198
Ibid.
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Section 33, Anti-Terrorism Act.
203
Ibid.
204
Section 44, Anti-Terrorism Act.
205
Section 45(d), Anti-Terrorism Act.
206
Section 46(c), Anti-Terrorism Act.
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Section 46, Anti-Terrorism Act.
208
Section 46(n), Anti-Terrorism Act.
209
Section 47, Anti-Terrorism Act.
210
Section 51, Anti-Terrorism Act.
211
Section 25, Anti-Terrorism Act.
212
Section 29, Anti-Terrorism Act.
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Section 31, Anti-Terrorism Act.
214
Section 37, Anti-Terrorism Act.
215
Section 41, Anti-Terrorism Act.
216
Section 42, Anti-Terrorism Act.
217
Section 43, Anti-Terrorism Act.
218
Section 50, Anti-Terrorism Act.
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Section 52, Anti-Terrorism Act.
220
Article 32. Any public officer or employee, or any private individual, who directly or indirectly obstructs,
defeats, violates or in any manner impedes or impairs any of the following rights and liberties of another
person shall be liable to the latter for damages:
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(9) The right to be secure in one's person, house, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and
seizures;
(10) The liberty of abode and of changing the same;
(11) The privacy of communication and correspondence;
(12) The right to become a member of associations or societies for purposes not contrary to law;
(13) The right to take part in a peaceable assembly to petition the Government for redress of grievances;
(14) The right to be a free from involuntary servitude in any form;
(15) The right of the accused against excessive bail;
(16) The right of the accused to be heard by himself and counsel, to be informed of the nature and cause
of the accusation against him, to have a speedy and public trial, to meet the witnesses face to face,
and to have compulsory process to secure the attendance of witness in his behalf;
(17) Freedom from being compelled to be a witness against one's self, or from being forced to confess
guilt, or from being induced by a promise of immunity or reward to make such confession, except
when the person confessing becomes a State witness;
(18) Freedom from excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishment, unless the same is imposed or
inflicted in accordance with a statute which has not been judicially declared unconstitutional; and
(19) Freedom of access to the courts.
In any of the cases referred to in this article, whether or not the defendant's act or omission constitutes a
criminal offense, the aggrieved party has a right to commence an entirely separate and distinct civil action
for damages, and for other relief. Such civil action shall proceed independently of any criminal prosecution
(if the latter be instituted), and may be proved by a preponderance of evidence.
The indemnity shall include moral damages. Exemplary damages may also be adjudicated.
The responsibility herein set forth is not demandable from a judge unless his act or omission constitutes a
violation of the Penal Code or other penal statute.
221
Lagman Petition, pp. 47-48.
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Panfilo M. Lacson, Sponsorship Speech for the Anti-Terrorism Act of 2019 (18th Congress),
https://pinglacson.net/2019/10/02/sponsorship-speech-for-the-anti-terrorism-act-of-2019-18th-congress/,
last accessed on July 15, 2020; emphasis supplied.
223
Supra.
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224
Emphasis supplied.
225
Ramiscal v. Commission on Audit, G.R. No. 213716, October 10, 2017.
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Zabal v. Duterte, supra.
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209. For their part, petitioner Zarate, et al. worry that the
enforcers themselves are susceptible to become terrorists
themselves, terrorizing the members of the society by
depriving them of the mantle of protection accorded by the
fundamental law of the land.229 In addition, petitioner Lagman
maintains that, the more power given by this law to police and
military enforcers as well as to administrative implementors
like the ATC and Anti-Money Laundering Council (AMLC)
without or with diluted accountability, the more they are
emboldened to commit abuses and excesses derogating civil
liberties and fundamental freedoms. 230
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Tondo Medical Center Employees Association v. Court of Appeals, G.R. No. 167324, July 17, 2007.
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People v. Cabiles, G.R. No. 220758, June 7, 2017.
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Sta. Maria Petition, pp. 34-35.
236
Lagman Petition, pp. 20-21.
237
Sanlakas Petition, p. 7.
238
Disini v. Executive Secretary, infra.
239
Washington State Grange v. Washington State Republican Party, 552 U.S. 442, 7 (2008).
240
Ibid.
241
Sabri v. United States, 541 U.S. 600, 609 (2004). Internal quotation marks and brackets omitted.
242
Ashwander v. Tennessee Valley Authority, 297 U.S. 288, 347
243
Ayotte v. Planned Parenthood of Northeren New Eng., 546 U.S. 320, 329 (2006).
244
Spouses Romualdez v. Comelec, supra.
245
Estrada v. Sandiganbayan, supra.
246
Romualdez v. Sandiganbayan, G.R. No. 152259, July 29, 2004.
247
Ibid.; citations omitted.
Indeed, an “on-its-face”
invalidation of criminal statutes
would result in a mass acquittal of
parties whose cases may not have
even reached the courts. Such
invalidation would constitute a
248
Emphasis supplied.
249
Supra.
250
Emphasis in the original.
251
Supra.
252
Emphasis and underscoring supplied.
253
Southern Hemisphere Engagement Network, Inc. v. Anti-Terrorism Council, supra; citing Giboney v.
Empire Storage and Ice Co., 336 U.S. 490, 93 L. Ed. 834, 843-844 (1949); Cf Brown v. Hartlage, 456 U.S.
45, 71 L. Ed 2d 732, 742 (1982) that acknowledges: x x x The fact that such an agreement [to engage in
illegal conduct] necessarily takes the form of words does not confer upon it, or upon the underlying
conduct, the constitutional immunities that the First Amendment extends to speech. Finally, while a
solicitation to enter into an agreement arguably crosses the sometimes hazy line distinguishing conduct
from pure speech, such a solicitation, even though it may have an impact in the political arena, remains in
essence an invitation to engage in an illegal exchange for private profit, and may properly be prohibited;
italics and underscoring supplied.
254
David v. Macapagal-Arroyo, G.R. Nos. 171396, 171409, 171485, 171483, 171400, 171489, and 171424, May 3,
2006.
255
Emphasis supplied.
256
Zarate Petition, par. 70, p. 26.
257
Calleja Petition, pp. 32-35.
258
Sta. Maria Petition, p. 27.
259
Lagman Petition, pp. 24-26.
268
TSN dated December 17, 2019, pp. 48-49; Annex “2”.
269
TSN dated January 21, 2020, p. 15; Annex “3”.
270
TSN dated January 27, 2020, pp. 30-31; Annex “5”.
271
TSN dated January 28, 2020, p. 20; Annex “6”.
272
Microsoft Corp. v. Manansala, G.R. No. 166391, October 21, 2015; citing Agpalo, Statutory Construction,
(4th Ed. 1998), p. 203.
273
Commissioner of Internal Revenue v. Ariete, G.R. No. 164152, January 21, 2010; citing Laurel, Statutory
Construction Cases & Materials, (1999 Revised Edition), p. 139.
274
LICOMCEN, Inc. v. Foundation Specialists, Inc., G.R. No. 167022, August 31, 2007.
275
Lagman Petition, pars. 97-99.
276
The Special Tribunal for Lebanon has jurisdiction over persons responsible for the attack of February 14,
2005 leading to the death of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri and the deaths or injury of other
persons, as well as other related attacks from October 1, 2004 and December 12, 2005. It is the first tribunal
of its kind with jurisdiction to deal with terrorism as a discrete crime. About the STL. Special Tribunal
for Lebanon. https://www.stl-tsl.org/en/about-the-stl, last accessed on July 17, 2020.
277
Interlocutory Decision on the Applicable Law: Terrorism, Conspiracy, Homicide, Perpetration,
Cumulative Charging (Appeals Chamber), STL-11-01/I, February 16, 2011.
278
Emphasis supplied.
279
Lazreg, H. B., The debate over what constitutes terrorism, The Conversation,
https://theconversation.com/the-debate-over-what-constitutes-terrorism-86812, last accessed on July 13,
2020.
280
A PDF translated from the original Arabic by the UN English Translation Service (unofficial
translation) can be perused at https://www.unodc.org/images/tldb-f/conv_arab_terrorism.en.pdf, last
accessed on July 14, 2020.
281
Emphasis and underscoring supplied.
282
S/Res/1566 (2004), available at https://www.un.org/ruleoflaw/files/n0454282.pdf, last accessed on
July 14, 2020.
283
Emphasis and underscoring supplied.
284
United Nations, UN Reform, March 21, 2005. Archived from the original on April 27, 2007.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070427012107/http://www.un.org/unifeed/script.asp?scriptId=73, last
accessed July 14, 2020.
285
Emphasis supplied.
286
Emphasis supplied.
287
Lagman Petition, p. 20.
288
Calleja Petition, pp. 42-50.
295
Central Petition, p. 49.
296
Sta. Maria Petition, p. 43.
297
Chavez v. Gonzales, G.R. No. 168338, February 15, 2008.
298
See TSNs dated January 28, 2020, at p.32, and February 3, 2020, pp. 14-19.
299
G.R. No. L-2990, December 17, 1951.
300
Emphasis supplied.
301
Calleja Petition, p. 53.
The AMLC may also enlist the assistance of any branch, department, bureau, office, agency or
instrumentality of the government, including government-owned and -controlled corporations in
undertaking measures to counter the financing of terrorism, which may include the use of its personnel,
facilities and resources.
For purposes of this section and notwithstanding the provisions of Republic Act No. 1405, otherwise
known as the “Law on Secrecy of Bank Deposits”, as amended; Republic Act No. 6426, otherwise known
as the "Foreign Currency Deposit Act of the Philippines”, as amended; Republic Act No. 8791, otherwise
known as “The General Banking Law of 2000” and other laws, the AMLC is hereby authorized to inquire
into or examine deposits and investments with any banking institution or non-bank financial institution
and their subsidiaries and affiliates without a court order.
303
SEC. 29. Detention Without Judicial Warrant of Arrest. - The provisions of Article 125 of the Revised
Penal Code to the contrary notwithstanding, any law enforcement agent or military personnel, who, having
been duly authorized in writing by the ATC has taken custody of a person suspected of committing any
of the acts defined and penalized under Sections 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 of this Act, shall, without
incurring any criminal liability for delay in the delivery of detained persons to the proper judicial
authorities, deliver said suspected person to the proper judicial authority within a period of fourteen (14)
calendar days counted from the moment the said suspected person has been apprehended or arrested,
detained, and taken into custody by the law enforcement agent or military personnel.
The period of detention may be extended to a maximum period of ten (10) calendar days if it is
established that:
(1) further detention of the person/s is necessary to preserve evidence related to terrorism or complete
the investigation;
(2) further detention of the person/s is necessary to prevent the commission of another terrorism; and
(3) the investigation is being conducted properly and without delay.
Immediately after taking custody of a person suspected of committing terrorism or any member of a
group of persons, organization or association proscribed under Section 26 hereof, the law
enforcement agent or military personnel shall notify in writing the judge of the court nearest the
place of apprehension or arrest of the following facts:
(a) the time, date, and manner of arrest;
(b) the location or locations of the detained suspect/s and
(c) the physical and mental condition of the detained suspect/s.
The law enforcement agent or military personnel shall likewise furnish the ATC and the Commission on
Human Rights (CHR) of the written notice given to the judge.
The head of the detaining facility shall ensure that the detained suspect is informed of his/her rights as a
detainee and shall ensure access to the detainee by his/her counsel or agencies and entities authorized by
law to exercise visitorial powers over detention facilities.
The penalty of imprisonment of ten (10) years shall be imposed upon the police or law enforcement agent
or military personnel who fails to notify any judge as provided in the preceding paragraph.
304
Emphasis supplied.
305
Sec. 24. Unauthorized or Malicious Interceptions and/or Recordings – Any law enforcement agent or
military personnel who conducts surveillance activities without a valid judicial authorization pursuant to
Section 17 of this Act shall be guilty of this offense and shall suffer the penalty of imprisonment of ten
(10) years. All information that have been maliciously procured should be made available to the aggrieved
party.
306
Calleja Petition, p. 53.
307
SEC. 18. Classification, and Contents of the Order of the Court, - The written order granted by the
authorizing division of the Court of Appeals as well as the application for such order, shall be deemed and
are hereby declared as classified information. Being classified information, access to the said documents
and any information contained in the said documents shall be limited to the applicants, duly authorized
personnel of the ATC, the hearing justices, the clerk of court and duly authorized personnel of the hearing
or issuing court.
The written order of the authorizing division of the Court of Appeals shall specify the following:
(a) the identity, such as name and address, if known, of the person or persons whose communications,
messages, conversations, discussions, or spoken or written words are to be tracked down, tapped,
listened to, intercepted, and recorded; and, in the case of radio, electronic, or telephonic (whether
wireless or otherwise) communications, messages, conversations, discussions, or spoken or written
words, the electronic transmission systems or the telephone numbers to be tracked down, tapped,
listened to, intercepted, and recorded and their locations or if the person or persons suspected of
committing any of the crimes defined and penalized under the provisions of this Act are not fully
known, such person or persons shall be the subject of continuous surveillance;
(b) the identity of the law enforcement agent or military personnel, including the individual identity of
the members of his team, judicially authorized to undertake surveillance activities;
(c) the offense or offenses committed, or being committed, or sought to be prevented; and,
(d) the length of time within which the authorization shall be used or carried out.
308
G.R. No. 163858, June 28, 2005.
313
J. Kapunan’s dissent in Ople v. Torres, et al., G.R. No. 127685, July 23, 1998.
314
532 U.S. 514 (2001).
315
Zarate Petition, pp. 41-42.
316
G.R. No. 179736, June 26, 2013.
317
G.R. No. 127685, July 23, 1998.
311. One need not look far to see the realities that
necessitated the passage of the Anti-Terrorism Act. The string
of suicide bombings in the country and the hard-fought
Marawi siege are but recent reminders of this. Sometime in
January 2019, an Indonesian couple blew themselves up at a
cathedral in Jolo, killing 23 and wounding more than 100
innocent Filipinos who were only there to pray.320 On April 3,
2019, an explosion rocked a restaurant in Kalawag 3, Isulan,
Sultan Kudarat, resulting in one casualty and 17 injured.321
318
Saluday v. People, G.R. No. 215305, April 3, 2018.
319
G.R. No. 138881, December 18, 2000
320
Mendoza, R., & Romano, D. The Diplomat, The Philippines Anti-Terrorism Act: Who Guards the
Guardians?, https://thediplomat.com/2020/07/the-philippines-anti-terrorism-act-who-guards-the-guardians/,
last accessed on July 10, 2020.
321
18 hurt in Isulan blast, https://www.mindanews.com/top-stories/2019/04/18-hurt-in-isulan-blast/, last accessed
on July 11, 2020.
322
5 killed, 9 hurt in Sulu military camp attack, https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1073596, last accessed July 11,
2020.
323
Suicide bomber dies in Philippines; no other casualties,
https://apnews.com/023e299742f84d1188d9fb032a955eb9, last accessed on July 11, 2020.
324
Gorospe, Constitutional Law: Notes and Readings on the Bill of Rights, Citizenship and Suffrage, Vol. 1,
p. 665.
325
Morfe v. Mutuc, G.R. No. L-20387, January 31, 1968.
326
Rivers, N., International Security Studies (2019 ed.), p. 36.
327
Article 17, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The passage reads: “1. No one shall
be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his privacy, family, home[,] or correspondence, nor
to unlawful attacks on his honour or reputation. 2. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law
against such interference or attacks.”
328
From the words of a statute, there should be no departure. Bolos v. Bolos, G.R. No. 186400, October 20,
2010.
that protects Filipino life and liberty, present and future, does
not infringe on constitutionally protected privacy rights.
A secret tap of
communications under Section
16 can only be done after a
determination of probable
cause by the Court of Appeals
and therefore does not violate
the right to privacy.
329
Lagman Petition, p. 29.
330
SEC. 8. Formal Application for Judicial Authorization. — The written order of the authorizing division
of the Court of Appeals to track down, tap, listen to, intercept, and record communications, messages,
conversations, discussions, or spoken or written words of any person suspected of the crime of terrorism
or the crime of conspiracy to commit terrorism shall only be granted by the authorizing division of the
Court of Appeals upon an ex parte written application of a police or of a law enforcement official who has
been duly authorized in writing by the Anti-Terrorism Council created in Section 53 of this Act to file
such ex parte application, and upon examination under oath or affirmation of the applicant and the
witnesses he may produce to establish:
(a) that there is probable cause to believe based on personal knowledge of facts or circumstances that
the said crime of terrorism or conspiracy to commit terrorism has been committed, or is being
committed, or is about to be committed;
(b) that there is probable cause to believe based on personal knowledge of facts or circumstances that
evidence, which is essential to the conviction of any charged or suspected person for, or to the
solution or prevention of, any such crimes, will be obtained; and,
(c) that there is no other effective means readily available for acquiring such evidence.
331
Lagman Petition., p. 30.
…332
332
Emphasis supplied.
333
Ibid.
334
SEC. 9. Classification and Contents of the Order of the Court. — The written order granted by the
authorizing division of the Court of Appeals as well as its order, if any, to extend or renew the same, the
original application of the applicant, including his application to extend or renew, if any, and the written
authorizations of the Anti-Terrorism Council shall be deemed and are hereby declared as classified
information: Provided, That the person being surveilled or whose communications, letters, papers,
messages, conversations, discussions, spoken or written words and effects have been monitored, listened
to, bugged or recorded by law enforcement authorities has the right to be informed of the acts done by the
law enforcement authorities in the premises or to challenge, if he or she intends to do so, the legality of
the interference before the Court of Appeals which issued the written order.
The written order of the authorizing division of the Court of Appeals shall specify the following:
(a) the identity, such as name and address, if known, of the charged or suspected person whose
communications, messages, conversations, discussions, or spoken or written words are to be tracked
down, tapped, listened to, intercepted, and recorded and, in the case of radio, electronic, or telephonic
(whether wireless or otherwise) communications, messages, conversations, discussions, or spoken or
written words, the electronic transmission systems or the telephone numbers to be tracked down,
tapped, listened to, intercepted, and recorded and their locations or if the person suspected of the
crime of terrorism or conspiracy to commit terrorism is not fully known, such person shall be subject
to continuous surveillance provided there is a reasonable ground to do so;
(b) the identity (name, address, and the police or law enforcement organization) of the police or of the
law enforcement official, including the individual identity (names, addresses, and the police or law
enforcement organization) of the members of his team, judicially authorized to track down, tap, listen
to, intercept, and record the communications, messages, conversations, discussions, or spoken or
written words;
(c) the offense or offenses committed, or being committed, or sought to be prevented; and,
(d) the length of time within which the authorization shall be used or carried out.
335
Lagman Petition, p. 30.
336
CTUHR Petition, p. 32.
337
Section 16, Anti-Terrorism Act.
338
Hewitt, M., Wiretapping: A Necessity for Effectively Combating Terrorism in the 21st Century, Liberty
University (2008), https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&context=honors ,
last accessed on July 11, 2020.
339
Ibid.
340
Calleja Petition, p. 57.
341
Emphasis supplied.
342
Emphasis supplied.
343
Emphasis supplied.
344
Emphasis supplied.
345
Section 4, Article II of the Constitution provides, in no uncertain terms: “Section 4. The prime duty
of the Government is to serve and protect the people. …” (Emphasis supplied.)
343. For the first test, the acts constituting the elements
of the crime terrorism fall within the same class of crimes
already punished under the Revised Penal Code, such as
Grave Threats under Article 282, Inciting to War or Giving
Motives for Reprisal under Article 118, Proposal to Commit
Rebellion under Article 136, Inciting Rebellion or Insurrection
under Article 138, and Inciting to Sedition under Article 142.
Indeed, these are conducts that are already regulated. Hence,
the first element is present.
350
Aviva O. Wertheimer, The First Amendment Distinction Between Conduct and Content: A Conceptual
Framework for Understanding Fighting Words Jurisprudence, 63 Fordham L. Rev. 793 (1994), available
at https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3142&context=flr;The..
351
Id.
352
Id.
353
O'Brien, 391 U.S. at 377.
354
Id.
355
Supra.
356
G.R. Nos. 231658, 231771, and 231774, July 4, 2017.
357
Senate TSN dated January 21, 2020, pp. 15-18; Annex “3”.
358
Calleja Petition, par. 84, p. 52.
359
See Soriano v. Laguardia, G.R. Nos. 164785 & 165636, April 29, 2009.
360
Soriano v. Laguardia, supra.
356. Such danger must not only be clear but must also
be present.362 There should be no doubt that what is feared
may be traced to the expression complained of.363
361
G.R. No. L-59329, July 19, 1985.
362
See Gonzales, et al. v. Katigbak, G.R. No. L-69500, July 22, 1985.
363
Ibid.
364
G.R. No. 168338, February 15, 2008.
365
Emphasis supplied.
The written order of the authorizing division of the Court of Appeals shall specify the following:
(a) the identity, such as name and address, if known, of the person or persons whose communications,
messages, conversations, discussions, or spoken or written words are to be tracked down, tapped,
listened to, intercepted, and recorded; and, in the case of radio, electronic, or telephonic (whether
wireless or otherwise) communications, messages, conversations, discussions, or spoken or written
words, the electronic transmission systems or the telephone numbers to be tracked down, tapped,
listened to, intercepted, and recorded and their locations or if the person or persons suspected of
committing any of the crimes defined and penalized under the provisions of this Act are not fully
known, such person or persons shall be the subject of continuous surveillance;
(b) the identity of the law enforcement agent or military personnel, including the individual identity of
the members of his team, judicially authorized to undertake surveillance activities;
(c) the offense or offenses committed, or being committed, or sought to be prevented; and,
(d) the length of time within which the authorization shall be used or carried out.
367
SEC. 20. Custody of Intercepted- and Recorded Communications. - All tapes, discs, other storage devices,
recordings, notes, memoranda, summaries, excerpts and all copies thereof obtained under the judicial
authorization granted by the Court of Appeals shall, within forty-eight (48) hours after the expiration of
the period fixed in the written order or the extension or renewal granted thereafter, be deposited with the
issuing court in a sealed envelope or sealed package, as the case may be, and shall be accompanied by a
joint affidavit of the applicant law enforcement agent or military personnel and the members of his/her
team.
In case of death of the applicant or in case he/she is physically disabled to execute the required affidavit,
the one next in rank to the applicant among the members of the team named in the written order of the
authorizing division of the Court of Appeals shall execute with the members of the team
that required affidavit.
It shall be unlawful for any person, law enforcement agent or military personnel or any custodian of the
tapes, discs, other storage devices recordings, notes, memoranda, summaries, excerpts and all copies
thereof to remove, delete, expunge, incinerate, shred or destroy in any manner the items enumerated above
in whole or in part under any pretext whatsoever.
Any person who removes, deletes, expunges, incinerates, shreds or destroys the items enumerated above
shall suffer the penalty of imprisonment of ten (10) years.
368
Zarate Petition, p. 66.
369
Republic vs. Roque, G.R. No. 204603, September 24, 2013; emphasis supplied.
370
Emphasis supplied.
373
Anastacio Laurel v. Eriberto Misa, G.R. No. L-409, 30 January 1947.
374
Dated June 2, 2020, 6:35 pm, pp. 1-3; Annex “9Error! Reference source not found.”.
…375
375
Emphasis supplied.
376
HB No. 6875, House Deliberation dated June 2, 2020, 8:10 p.m., pp. 1-2; Annex “10”.
377
Emphasis supplied.
378
341 U.S. 494 (1951).
379
Calleja Petition, pp. 58-59.
380
Calleja Petition, p.50
381
Lagman v. Medialdea, G.R. No. 231658, July 4, 2017. “[Probable cause] merely necessitates an “average
man [to weigh] the facts and circumstances without resorting to the calibration of the rules of evidence of
which he has no technical knowledge. xxx”” (Emphasis supplied.)
382
Estrada v. Ombudsman, G.R. Nos. 212140-41, January 21, 2015.
383
Ibid.
384
https://scsanctions.un.org/fop/fop?xml=htdocs/resources/xml/en/consolidated.xml&xslt=htdocs/resources/xsl/e
n/consolidated.xsl, last accessed on 10 July 2020.
385
https://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=IND&mtdsg_no=XVIII-11&chapter=18#EndDec, last
accessed on 10 July 2020.
386
Section 46(i), Anti-Terrorism Act.
387
Section 45, Anti-Terrorism Act.
The freeze order shall be effective for a period not exceeding twenty (20) days. Upon a petition filed by
the AMLC before the expiration of the period, the effectivity of the freeze order may be extended up to a
period not exceeding six(б) months upon order of the Court of Appeals: Provided, That, the twenty-day
period shall be tolled upon filing of a petition to extend the effectivity of the freeze order.
Notwithstanding the preceding paragraphs, the AMLC, consistent with the Philippines’ international
obligations, shall be authorized to issue a freeze order with respect to property or funds of a designated
organization, association, group or any individual to comply with binding terrorism-related resolutions,
including UNSCR No. 1373 pursuant to Article 41 of the charter of the UN. Said freeze order shall be
effective until the basis for the issuance thereof shall have been lifted. During the effectivity of the freeze
order, an aggrieved party may, within twenty (20) days from issuance, file with the Court of Appeals a
petition to determine the basis of the freeze order according to the principle of effective judicial protection:
Provided, That the person whose property or funds have been frozen may withdraw such sums as the
AMLC determines to be reasonably needed for monthly family needs and sustenance including the
services of counsel and the family medical needs of such person.
However, if the property or funds subject of the freeze order under the immediately preceding paragraph
are found to be in any way related to financing of terrorism as defined and penalized under Republic Act
No. 10168, or any violation of Sections 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 or 12 of this Act committed within the
jurisdiction of the Philippines, said property or funds shall be the subject of civil forfeiture proceedings as
provided under Republic Act No. 10168.
394
United Nations, Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, 23 May 1969, United Nations, Treaty Series, vol.
1155, p. 331, available at: https://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDetailsIII.aspx?src=TREATY&mtdsg_no=XXIII-
1&chapter=23&Temp=mtdsg3&clang=_en [accessed July 15, 2020].
395
G.R. No. 193796, 02 July 2014.
international AML/CTF standards, particularly the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) Forty
Recommendations
398
Recommendation 6 - Targeted financial sanctions related to terrorism and terrorist financing. See The
Philippines’ Measures to Combat Money Laundering and Terrorist Financing, October 2019.
http://www.fatf-gafi.org/publications/mutualevaluations/documents/mer-philippines-2019.html.
399
Section 11 of the TFPSA.
Designation is an executive
function.
410
Section 46(e), Anti-Terrorism Act.
411
Section 46(h), Anti-Terrorism Act.
412
Section 45, Anti-Terrorism Act.
413
Energy Regulatory Board vs. Court of Appeals, G.R. No. 113079, April 20, 2001.
Designation, being an
administrative process under
the Anti-Terrorism Council, is
distinct from proscription,
which is a judicial function of
the Court of Appeals.
Proscription is a judicial
process.
415
Section 26, R.A. No. 11479.
416
Calleja Petition, pp. 22-23; Sta. Maria Petition, pp. 47-49; Zarate Petition, pp. 69-70; Lagman Petition, p.
49.
417
Article III, Section 2, 1987 Philippine Constitution.
418
Sta. Maria Petition, pp. 47-48.
419
Supra.
CHAPTER VII
JURISDICTION
420
R.A. No. 9851.
421
People v. Muleta, G.R. No. 130189, June 25, 1999; emphasis supplied.
422
G.R. No. 227038, July 31, 2017.
423
Supra.
424
Emphasis supplied.
425
Monsod Petition, pp. 21-22; Jurado Petition, pp. 16-17; CTUHR Petition, pp. 47-49; Calleja Petition, pp.
35-39; Sta. Maria Petition, pp. 53-55; Zarate Petition, pp. 71-74; Lagman Petition, pp. 41-16.
426
Lagman Petition, p. 72.
427
In the Matter of the Adoption of Stephanie Nathy Astorga Garcia, G.R. No. 148311, March 31, 2005.
428
TSN dated January 22, 2020, pp. 28-30; Annex “4”.
429
United Nations Security Council Resolution No. 2178 (2014), p. 1.
430
TSN dated January 22, 2020, p. 31; Annex “4”.
431
Immediately after taking custody of a person suspected of committing terrorism or any member of a group
of persons, organization or association proscribed under Section 26 thereof, the law enforcement agent or
military personnel shall notify in writing the judge of the court nearest the place of apprehension or arrest
of the following facts: (a) the time, date, and manner of arrest; (b) the location or locations of the detained
suspect/s and (c) the physical and mental condition of the detained suspect/s. The law enforcement agent
or military personnel shall likewise furnish the ATC and the Commission on Human Rights (CHR) of the
written notice given to the judge.
472. In the first place, nothing in the law allows the ATC
to issue an order of arrest. The issuance of a warrant of arrest
432
TSN dated February 3, 2020, p. 40; Annex “7”.
433
Senator Panfilo Lacson’s letter to the Integrated Bar of the Philippines dated June 15, 2020.
438
Jurado Petition, p. 43.
439
Emphasis supplied.
440
Supra.
441
6 Am. Jur. [Rev. Ed.], Bailment, S6.
442
Enrile v. Sandiganbayan, G.R. No. 213847, August 18, 2015; citing Government of the United States of
America v. Purganan, G.R. No. 148571, September 24, 2002.
443
Enrile v. Sandiganbayan, supra..
444
Zarate Petition, par. 248; CTUHR Petition, par. 7.11.
445
Emphasis supplied.
446
People v. Escobar, G.R. No. 214300, July 26, 2017.
447
Zarate Petition, par. 258; CTUHR Petition, par. 7.15.
448
Section 88, Revised Penal Code.
449
Emphasis supplied.
450
Zarate Petition, par. 253.
451
Genuino v. De Lima, G.R. No. 197930, April 17, 2018.
452
Concurring Opinion of Justice Antonio Carpio in Genuino v. De Lima, supra.
453
Global Terrorism Index: PH 9th most affected by terrorism in 2018,
https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2019/11/21/ph-global-terrorism-index-2019.html, last accessed on July 11,
2020.
454
A.M. No. P-11-2927, December 13, 2011.
455
Emphasis supplied.
456
Manotoc, Jr. v. Court of Appeals, G.R. No. L-62100, May 30, 1986.
457
G.R. Nos. 99289-90, January 27, 1993.
458
Citations omitted.
459
Silverio v. Court of Appeals, G.R. No. 94284, April 8, 1991.
460
Cudia v. The Superintendent of the Philippine Military Academy, G.R. No. 211362, February 24, 2015;
1987 Constitution, Article XIV, Section 5(2).
461
Sta. Maria Petition, pp. 66-67.
462
Philippine Association of Service Exporters, Inc. v. Drilon, G.R. No. 81958, June 30, 1988.
463
Cudia v. The Superintendent of the Philippine Military Academy, supra; 1987 Constitution, Article XIV,
Section 5(2).
464
Sta. Maria Petition, p. 68.
commitments to counterterrorism-related
protocols and bilateral and/or multilateral
agreements, and identify the lead agency for
each program …
OPPOSITION TO PETITIONERS’
PRAYER FOR THE ISSUANCE OF
TEMPORARY RESTRAINING
ORDER AND WRIT OF
PRELIMINARY
INJUNCTIONAND/OR OTHER
INJUNCTIVE REMEDIES
Calleja Petition, p. 62; Lagman Petition, p. 53, par. 144; Sta. Maria Petition, p. 70; and Zarate, 2020, p.81.
465
(b) That the commission, continuance or non-performance of the act or acts complained of during the
litigation would probably work injustice to the applicant; or
(c) That a party, court, agency or a person is doing, threatening, or is attempting to do, or is procuring
or suffering to be done some act or acts probably in violation of the rights of the applicant respecting
the subject of the action or proceeding, and tending to render the judgment ineffectual.
467
DPWH v. City Advertising Ventures Corporation, G.R. No. 182944, November 9, 2016.
468
Office of City Mayor of Parañaque v. Ebio, G.R. No. 156303, December 19, 2007.
469
Heirs of Yu, et al. v. Honorable Court of Appeals, et al., G.R. No. 182371, September 4, 2013.
470
Bicol Medical Center, et al v. Botor, et al, G.R. No. 214073, October 4, 2017.
471
See Ocampo v. Sison, G.R. No. 164529, June 19, 2007.
472
Philippine Virginia Tobacco Administration v. De Los Angeles, et al, G.R. No. L-27829, August 19, 1988.
473
Ermita v. Aldecoa-Delorino, supra; citations omitted and emphasis supplied.
474
Brizuela v. Dingle and Legaspi, G.R. No. 175371, April 30, 2008; citing Heirs of Asuncion v. Gervacio,
Jr., et al., G.R. No. 115741, March 9, 1999; emphasis supplied.
475
Australian Professional Realty, Inc. v. Municipality of Padre Garcia Batangas Province, G.R. No. 183367,
March 14, 2012.
476
G.R. No. 64220, March 31, 1992.
477
Emphasis supplied and citations omitted.
478
Evy Construction and Development Corporation v. Valiant Roll Forming Sales Corporation, G.R. No.
207938, October 11, 2017.
479
Valley Trading v. CFI Isabela, G.R. No. L-49529, March 31, 1989.
480
Garcia v. Burgos, G.R. No. 124130, June 29, 1998.
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EXPLANATION
The foregoing Commenf will be electronically filed and
served to this Honorable Court and to the parties due to
limited office personnel.
G LBERT U. MEDRANO
Assista nt So I icito r Genera I
INDEX OF ANNEXES
ANNEX DESCRIPTION
1 Dabiq: Remaining and Expanding (Muharram
1436 or November 2014; Annex “1”
Senate Records
2 TSN dated December 17, 2019; Annex “2”
3 TSN dated January 21, 2020; Annex “3”
4 TSN dated January 22, 2020; Annex “4”
5 TSN dated January 27, 2020; Annex “5”
6 TSN dated January 28, 2020; Annex “6”
7 TSN dated February 3, 2020; Annex “7”
8 TSN dated February 19, 2020; Annex “8”
House Records
9 TSN dated June 2, 2020, 6:35 p.m.; Annex “9”
10 TSN dated June 2, 2020, 8:10 p.m.; Annex “10”
11 United Nations Security Council Resolutions;
Annex “11”
12 UNSC 1373, Threats to International Peace and
Security Caused by Terrorist Acts; Annex “12”
13 UNSC 1456, High-Level Meeting of the Security
Council: Combating Terrorism; Annex “13”
14 UNSC 1566, Threats to International Peace and
Security Caused by Terrorist Acts; Annex “14”
II
ANNEX 1II
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A}.ID HXPANffING
On 1l)e 17"'of IVlttltattattt l4lt', llle \^/orl(l lrear(l
llre l(lrali,alt ar,,l rlllllxrrl lrrrr rlr olr'r(lleri(€' [o
announcettlellts fto rr llre tIrtri;iIritIiIrof Ilre Ata
nll.rl .rt,l I rrr)1..,rtr.,,, ,1 i,' rrrl'F"lP'l ''blrPd
bian Peninstrla, Yerlrerl, Sllrai. lilrya ,rlt(l AlSerra
pronotlllcirlg Illeir t'ay',1t to llrc l(lrali{ah ol tlrrl
Al)ll Bakr nl lltrsayrll irl llaBlrtl'(ll (lla llreV llrerr ('ar lr ra.r". llrr I1 " irr i)ie( " r)i 'dvl(:e
Muslirns,
fidhahulldlr) atrtl urisrlrrrrt ( ol rr t't t titttl l l .,' r'i )lii{all{'llr r)l lrl rl[y
ill,{ tlll(ler llre l,errrrei ol tlr" l lril;ll;rlr
All of thettr arlnollllr el I rllli[!ri ltrly'
llre tttttialrirlirr lr,rrrr r\l;1,'ri'r ,rrlvisr:rl tlrl tttu
jalrirlrr ev. l yv'/lrlr {rl
'Allah - the Fxal(c(l ;ai(l lArr(l lr()lrl filllrlY lo
the rope of Allalr all ()grrtlrer arrrl d. rrrrt l)e'(rrrre
"Weesp€rr irllY lrt rrirrr l tlr" trrrriallirlirl rrlro sal:ri
dividedl IAl 'lt]lrarr ll)ll Alrrl /\llalr's lvlesserrBel
(sallallrhu 'alaylliw. sallarrr) sai(l, "Wlroever
(lies li.e,iall llrnl is (l(rar arrrlI er rrlrrs. ollered tlreir
wliile itot llavinB a l)lLirlge ol nlleginllrre (lies a .ol|ls \,villr)rll lr('iilalirrrr nrrrl I all-'(l rlrr( 'l)tlr
dedllr of j5l)iliyyalr' l!rl'ilr N4rrslirrr orr llre atr nri5sion arrl go.ll l! 1o ('rl.rl1li'ill Allall's !liarialr
(rr llre Earllr arrrl I llilalalr I lrr)lr llle rllelfr(r{lol
thorityof 'lllrrerrl llrerP[ole, irrobe(lierr'elr)ll]e
order of Allalt ('azza \/a iall) alrd itt olretlietrce ttr i)gy r)l l)rol)lrellrlr)rl. -\o 'rlr! rlo y{rll delAY illis
His A,4essetrger {sall;rllahrl 'alaylri \'lrn sallarlr),
(rl n.r\! I \1/e,t-(l yl,r r I r'1 r\ll,rlr, l,'es I llis (lelaY l)l ing
irry lr) llre lre liF u('r s alrrl ,rlrrl|r llrc l(Lr[[Al
l'l]r ihe
derillg not lo divi(]€ arr,l l.r sti( k t llte ,arrra'al)
vL'e (le(lare tlle l)a\ all to llrp l(ltalilalr ll)r'llilrr oPl)r)sile.l
lbn 'Awwed lbn llrtilritrr al (l(rraslri 'rl llrrsayrri
pledging to selflessl/ lrPat arrrl olreY irr Iirrres ol Ille rrrialrl(lirl lr,,rrr llr' ,r'rlriarr l'elllrlilllar ill
hardship an{l ease, alrll irl lirrres ol rleliglll alr(l lor rrrer I llrt rrr ,, lltltirll r ii ll {rrr lar t{l'j llrn I llrey
r r
dislike. We pledge I ()t lo dislrrrte llre rrrallPr I't rrir irrrger rree,['rl l',1r, " ]l'rr l(, t)crlorrrr iilra(l
those in arrLhority e{r:et)l iI we see rrlrviorrs krrfr I rlt,r rlle l)a|l , L)i llr, I r lalrlr
concerninE whiclr !!" lr'lve ptrr0f ftorrr l\llalr We
l i
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AIJD EXI'ANI)IIIG
Fenirrsrrla,the ttlrttl lla! aplleale(l alld l)revailell l)lI(lerl alry()tlrt wltll vvlrtl I\ lrlryr)ll(llllerl 'cope'
(liltL' alrll r.lllY y{)llr All.rlr .r) iAr,,llln li.r r, I t lr' p l'rt""r rrrrt il,
5o conre to yoiir 'rotlrlrl
Khalifalr. O nruwaljlrl(li11 irr llre l'rrrds rrt 'l ll;r
11,,. r p1,8r,,,' dr,,"rrllr"rlr ; l/'l I l4rl't(l
ramavo, glad titlirtg, Ioi tlre iilr'(l {lrat Yorr pre
pared your sadrlles trrr llas allive(l lo tlre (lrxrl
steps of yoLll hotrte;, atld rrrl lrorrlt:ts vrill irrlrilril
you frortl reachirrg l. rlor will rlly lrassl)()rt; (rl
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I i ' I r r AND EXPANIIING
it by not stan(lirtg Lr( tlentlr ils l)allrlel, aI a liltle ir I wilayat, arlrl llre rrrrllili(nrr(,rr {rI all partrr]s and
which the wor ld lla! r r)rnpl,otely galllelecl aga in sl gt1) !s llrereilr lll orle 1[ Ille lllost no\^/e!'fUl
it. What is wrong willrVoul Wllal is yotrr Pxrr(lse, a(l(lresses Eivelr sitri e tlll'uslalrlislrnlerrl of the
O mujahidirr? YoLlr lrrrity is !trerlAlll alr(l.yotlr lsle|tri. State. lrc 'j.rirl "(;l,r(l lirlilrgs, t] Nltlslilrls,
divisior is weaknes'. lls llllellt is yorrr tltiSlri, if for wt give yotr g(){,(l lle\ /:' lry irr}rlr)url(irl8 the
only you understoo l Illere is llo grrod ilr yrrrl if exl)allsiort (rl llle lslarrtir ',lale Ir) Ilew larlds kr
lhey rParh it arrrl lrr',r' ll $,rrlle Y'rr' lra"'o a ''rr lhe lan(ls ol al llatatrtaVll rrr(l ielllerr tr) tgVllt,
gle hreath letl. Arrd l{lo llot llrinl( y()(r will allow tihya, all{l l\lgeria. We ,rlrrrolllr(e the ntcep
such k) hapPerr. 5,i s.rttle Yrrlll llrnller' gdtller tall( (i of the l).Y alr ()l tlro.r'!vlr() g.rve (l\ l)aY'al)
your5elveS, arlcl supl){)lt yollr stale, [ot yort de i|l llrose la rls, llre rrtrllilr( ali{rlr {)f tlre Srollps
pend orr it arrd it d.l)€r1rds (,rr yotl llyAllalr,ilis therei tlre alrrlollllrellrl,rll ')f rl{1w wilayat for
upon the clear trutl, arrd slll)porterl hy All'lr, the tlle lslanli. 5lale. alr(l llle ll)lloillllllerlt ol \n/lllaI
Mighty, the Slrorrg. 5o fear n llalr, yorrr lor(l Do ior llretrl."
not let Shayterr dec,rive yorl !vith llis Itopagartda
and slanrler lndeed lre is a t lear etretrty to yor " Prior lo tlre arttlolillaeIrerll of llre rlel'v v\'ilayat,
a flIrll)er ofHlotll)s ill (lrl]lasarl, al Llav"qaz, ln
(lohesia, NiBer ia, tlJe l)hilil)l)lrles, ;rlld elsewhere
l'he 11rtriahidill of '/errrell i()l]llselerl llre lvius
lirrrs witlt the prol)ll'lli( a{lvr( e arl(l t)rIler fu)r tlt{l Irarl Dlerigetl llleir allegi,rrr.e to tlle Kllalilah,
tirnes r)f divisionl ar(l .olltilllle 1o (lr) so (lnily Tl]e lslalllic State
arln()uIce(l llle a{ ( eptallr c r)l tlle bay'al fronl
all of tllese grrrtllls arld itrrlivicltrals rrtay Allall
'Allah's Messenger (s;illallallrr 'alaylri wa sal
lam) had given rrs glad tidirrBs ot l(llil'falr trt:lrrll a.cel)l llreir lt()[)lr: r)atlr alr(] ke{lp llr':llr firnl
the nrethodology of ptophetlror'rtl Arrd irrtleed' lli]r)ntlreir I(rverlirlrt, hee )tlalter bttttlelayetl
by Allah, we have srrerl it as a l(lrilAfah ul)on tlre
the arrnoltrl(ietlrelll of lll( ir respective v'/ilaYat,
nletho.lology of prol)llethoo(l Atrrl whetr we wllile recoBrtizirlg lllat s(,llle grI)llps fl()rll the
afor e n lerlli()tleLl larltls arI latger arld stronger
heard the trtlmpet: of the Jews all(l Christialrs
the callers opon llr{: gates crf llelltire we tlrall a few ol tll se relalerl t{r llre riewly an
answered the order trf Allalr's Messeilgel that no{rr(ed wilay.l lllis (l{ liy sll{)llld erl(l \^/ith
obliged sticking to llre jarlle'alr ol lhP ['4llslirl)s eill)er llre al)lnllllllllenl (rl lea()tlllilioll o{ lead
and iheir lnrem, f,)r llrl{lhayfalr (radiyall6lru ersllil) l)y tlle (lralrlalr lr'r lllose larl(ls wlrere
'anh) said,'Tlle peolrle use{l l{) arik Allalr's N'4es rrrrlliple Elolll)s llave giv('rl l)ay'al an(l rllerBed,
sedger (sallallShu 'alaylli wa sallanr) abotrt goo(1, orllre estahlislllllerll ota'lile(I lilleoIIrJnr ]u
and I used to ask lrrrrr aboLrt evil, Iearing tlrat it ni.alioh l)elweetl llre l(llil;ilall attrl tlte rrtr.tjihitl
leadetslrip of latrrls ra/ll{) ll,l\/c yel lo conlact Lhe
might overtake rne ' l11 tlre lla.litlr, lle says,
'ls
there any evil after this 8o(xll' lle responded, lslal ia State all(l llrrs re( eive irlJr)rrnalion iln(l
'Yes, callers upo,l tlle Eates of llellfire- Wlloev
dire.tives lll)lll llre l(halilalt lvlay Allalr bring
'er answers tllem will be tlll ow irlto it bY tllerll ' Ela(l ti(li g5 fl(rttt llrese l,rlrds arlrl otlrelt soon
He said, 'o Allah's 14esserlter, de5( rille tlrerlr lo an(l Iill tlre l)elievers' llearls !vitlr Itrrther Jo]'
me.'lle said, ' lhev ate front r)lrl skill arld sl)eak
with otrr tong(les.' lle $ai.l,'5() wllat (lo y()tr or
der me with if I reaclr tllat lirrlei' lle sai(1, 'sti.k
to the jama'alt of tlre M(lslirrrs arrrl tlreir llnanr'
lAl-Bukheri and Mrr'tlirrrl."
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ANNEX "2"
At 3:00 p.m., the Senate President, Hon. Vicente C. Sotto III, called the
session to order.
The President. The 41st session of the Senate in the First Regular
Session of the Eighteenth Congress is hereby called to order.
ROLL CALL
Under detention
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Senator Cynthia A. Villar................................... Present
Senator Juan Miguel F. Zubiri ……………………. Present
The President………………………………… Present
Before I recognize the Majority Leader, I would just like to, again, make
mention of the importance of this day. Aside from being the birthday of our
Majority Leader, Senator Zubiri, and his lovely wife, Audrey. Labing-apat na
So, congratulations.
THE JOURNAL
(Consideration Deferred)
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
athletes, gold medalists, and medalists from the Southeast Asian Games. I
have two particular athletes whom I am pretty much proud and honored
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because they come from Bukidnon—Ms. Christine Hallasgo of the women’s
marathon and Sarah Dequinan of women’s heptathlon. They are both gold
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, we also have with us the SEA Games
medalists from the City of Valenzuela. Mayroon ba itong cash gift? Kasi ako,
Noelito Jose Jr., bronze medalist of men’s fencing individual epee; Baby Jessica
Valenzuela.
adoption.
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The President. Are these part of the Reference of Business?
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, if resolutions can be pulled out, but if the
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
REFERENCE OF BUSINESS
RESOLUTIONS
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CONCURRENT RESOLUTION URGING THE BANGSAMORO
TRANSITION AUTHORITY TO DESIGNATE ITS
REPRESENTATIVES TO THE PHILIPPINE CONGRESS-
BANGSAMORO PARLIAMENT FORUM TO BE CREATED
PURSUANT TO ARTICLE VI, SECTION 3 OF REPUBLIC ACT
NO. 11054, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE “ORGANIC LAW
FOR THE BANGSAMORO AUTONOMOUS REGION IN
MUSLIM MINDANAO” AND TO MEET WITH THE
DELEGATES DESIGNATED BY THE SENATE AND THE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PURPOSE
Introduced by Senator Go
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Introduced by Senator Pacquiao
COMMITTEE REPORTS
recommending its approval in substitution of Senate Bill Nos. 337 and 524.
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The Secretary. Committee Report No. 32, prepared and submitted
jointly by the Committees on Trade, Commerce and Entrepreneurship; and
Local Government, on Senate Bill No. 1241, with Senators Recto and Pimentel
III as authors thereof, entitled:
Proposed Senate Resolution Nos. 245 and 246. Should we proceed one by one,
Mr. President?
Senator Zubiri. With the permission of the Body, I move that we take up
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CONSIDERATION OF P.S. RES. NO. 245
(Congratulating and Commending Christine Hallasgo)
_______________________________________________________________________
The following is the whole text of the resolution:
[Insert]
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ATHLETICS STADIUM IN THE NEW CLARK CITY IN CAPAS,
TARLAC ON 8 DECEMBER 2019
_______________________________________________________________________
The following is the whole text of the resolution:
[Insert]
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I take the Floor today to congratulate two
women from Bukidnon who brought pride to our province and to the nation by
For the women’s marathon held at New Clark City on 6 December 2019,
through the competition to a triumphant gold medal finish, completing the 42-
kilometer race in only 2 hours, 56 minutes, and 56 seconds. This win was an
underdog surprise and a stunning upset, coming from a first-time SEA Games
competitor.
Sarah Noveno Dequinan brought the country’s name to similar acclaim. The
the 100-meter hurdles, the high jump, the shot put, the 200-meter run, the
running long jump, the javelin throw, and the 800-meter run to ultimately
score the gold. With this feat, Sarah has claimed a win that has eluded us
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since the legendary Elma Muros achieved it in 2001. Almost two decades later,
we can once again proudly claim that the “toughest woman in Asia” is a
Filipina.
Both Christine and Sarah had to do the difficult thing of leaving their
families in Bukidnon for a while in order to put in the necessary training for
the SEA Games. Their sacrifice, suffice it to say, has paid off immensely. We,
in Bukidnon, could not be more proud of them. They have put our beloved
province on the map, and they have brought great pride to the nation.
Filipina.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, for the record as well, could we make all
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Before we pause to recognize and give them the resolutions, I would like
to move forward with the other resolutions on the SEA Games athletes so that
we can pause quickly and have photo with all of them together.
[Insert]
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recognized.
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Mr. President, distinguished colleagues, good afternoon.
I am in high spirits as I stand before all of you this afternoon. Only one
week has passed since the Philippines clinched the overall championship at
the 30th Southeast Asian Games, but up to now, we are still elated with the
By the time our athletes have hauled 149 gold, 117 silver, and 121
bronze medals, we all knew how it felt to win as one. Mr. President, today, I am
proud to pay tribute to Valenzuela’s athletes who took part in making history
and showed our Southeast Asian neighbors that Filipino talent is truly world-
class.
with us this afternoon, two of them bagged gold medals: Mr. Fernando Jose
Four Valenzuelanos also clinched bronze medals: Noelito Jose Jr. of the
Kyrielle Aquino of the Sailing International Men’s Event; Baby Jessica Canabal
of the Taekwondo Women’s Team; and John Michael “Amay” Pasco of the Men’s
nagdaang SEA Games. Commending our players from Valenzuela is not just an
acknowledgment of their talent and triumph, but it also proved to us that hard
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work, determination, and love for sports have led them to greater heights. Hindi
lamang maiuwi ang medalya. Mas lalong hindi biro ang maging malayo sa
Our very own players received an outpouring of well wishes and other
forms of support from our local government officials to every kababayan on the
write a new chapter in the history of sports development in our country. They
inspire us to create a nurturing environment that will help them develop their
I strongly believe that the greatest honor we can give them is to boost
sports development in our country so that athletes like them could reach their
full potential and be well-equipped for the world stage. Let us both maintain
and sustain the enthusiasm and energy we showed at the Southeast Asian
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Looking forward to the new year, I am very excited on our proposed
Philippine High School for Sports that will help us develop more world-class
Filipino athletes.
ako.
and commending our Southeast Asian Games medalists from the City of
Valenzuela City!
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Mr. President, I join my colleagues in this august Chamber in
commending all our Filipino athletes who have actively and excellently
participated in the recent Southeast Asian Games. Not only did they reap gold,
silver, and bronze medals for our country, but they also won the hearts of
other SEA Games competitors and the whole world, for demonstrating the
Being a sportsperson myself, I feel the joy and the triumph of our local
athletes whose hours of tireless practice and indefatigable sacrifices paved the
way to success.
I was once a varsity player of the Philippine Military Academy. I was into
boxing, judo, and wrestling during my PMA days, and almost made it to the
national team in wrestling during the Gintong Alay days of Michael Keon.
Being into sports not only enhances the physical stamina and well-being
Senator Gatchalian, I ask that all members of the Senate be made cosponsors
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, there are no other members who wish to
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
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Senator Zubiri. But my assistant Majority Leader has been badgering
SPECIAL ORDER
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we transfer from the
Calendar for Ordinary Business to the Calendar for Special Orders Committee
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we consider Senate Bill No.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
permission of the Body, the Secretary will read only the title of the bill without
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AN ACT EXPANDING THE USE OF THE LEGAL ASSISTANCE
FUND, AMENDING FOR THE PURPOSE SECTION 26 OF
REPUBLIC ACT NO. 8042, AS AMENDED, OTHERWISE
KNOWN AS THE MIGRANT WORKERS AND OVERSEAS
FILIPINOS ACT OF 1995
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S. No. 1233
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Mr. President, I ask that we recognize the sponsor, Sen. Joel Villanueva,
Senator Villanueva. Thank you, Mr. President; thank you, Mr. Majority
Leader.
Development to sponsor Senate Bill No. 1233 under Committee Report No. 30
or “An Act Expanding the Use of the Legal Assistance Fund, Amending for the
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G. Pangulo, tatlong buwan na po ang nakararaan nang magbaba ng hatol
ang Syrian District Criminal Court na guilty sa kasong murder si Mouna Ali
Demafelis. Halos tatlong taon pong paghihintay mula nang una nating
mahal sa buhay ang ating gobyerno, isang kababayan din natin ang kinidnap at
ginahasa naman noong ika-4 ng Hunyo 2019 ng isang Kuwaiti police officer na
ating bansa.
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nakaraang Kongreso ang Social Welfare Attaché Law; hindi pagbabayad ng
lugar sa Europa.
ating batas upang paigtingin pa ang proteksiyon para sa ating mga bagong
This is in line with the 1987 Constitution, Mr. President, which decrees
the full protection of labor, both local and overseas, as a primary social
Constitution does not simply mean and end at mere provision by the State of
work and equal employment opportunities for its workforce. Full protection of
labor more significantly implies a continuing positive duty on the part of the
Senate to ensure that the rights of its workers are at all times protected and
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which are Filipino migrant workers. Meanwhile, according to the Department
of Foreign Affairs (DFA), the number of overseas Filipinos who have sought the
help of the DFA for legal assistance has been on a steady increase. In 2018,
there are approximately 3,735 overseas Filipinos who have been assisted by the
DFA through the legal assistance fund. Meanwhile, as of August 31, 2019,
approximately 4,116 have already benefited from the legal assistance fund.
These data reflect not only the practical utility of the legal assistance
fund and its advantages, but also and more importantly, Mr. President, the
existence of the actual need for immediate and prompt legal assistance to the
1233 under Committee Report No. 30, which aims to amend Section 26 of the
First, this measure seeks to strengthen and expand the use of the legal
assistance fund to include bonds required not just by the courts, but also by
other agencies or tribunal. The law’s application, thus, is not only limited to
Act authorizes our foreign posts to engage the services of paralegals with
special knowledge and familiarity with the language, laws, rules, procedures,
customs, and traditions of the foreign country. Mr. President, this allows our
foreign posts to immediately provide, at the very least, such basic or first aid
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legal services that migrant workers and overseas Filipinos in distress may
need. The aim is to advance and improve not only the quality, but also the
overseas Filipinos.
support and the legal assistance fund shall immediately and at all times be
clarifies that such assistance shall be given from the moment the case is
and execution. This assistance extends further to all appeals taken on these
overseas.
Lastly, Mr. President, the measure clarifies that the implementing rules
and regulations of the Act may authorize the secretary of foreign affairs to
requests for legal assistance by some OFWs are delayed because of the
legal expense can be charged to the fund, an approval from the main office of
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detrimental to the welfare, not to mention mental health, of migrant workers
behind this noble effort to further strengthen the protection afforded by the
State to our migrant workers and overseas Filipinos. The risks and
overemphasized.
Sarmiento once observed, “It is bad enough that the country has to send its
personally and economically, while away from home.” It is, thus, just fitting
and appropriate and in line with the celebration of the “Month of Overseas
Filipinos,” that this Chamber fully and immediately approve Senate Bill No.
thanks and appreciation to all our colleagues for their interest and support to
this measure, most especially our coauthors, Senators Nancy Binay and
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Ronald “Bato” dela Rosa, and the members of the Committee on Labor and
Panginoong Diyos.
Sen. Ronald “Bato” M. dela Rosa and Sen. Nancy Binay would like to
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, there are requests from our colleagues,
measure.
The President. Senators Gatchalian and Pimentel also, and all those
present.
Senator Zubiri. With the permission of the Body, Mr. President, I move
that all members present be made cosponsors of Senate Bill No. 1233.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
Senate Bill No. 1083 as reported out under Committee Report No. 9.
Franklin M. Drilon.
Ping Lacson, is recognized; and to interpellate, the Minority Leader, Sen. Frank
Drilon.
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Mr. President, given the importance of this measure, I do hope that I can
Mr. President, will the gentleman from Cavite, sponsor of the measure,
acknowledged better minds in this Chamber, any intervention coming from him
to enhance this measure is very much appreciated. So, willingly, Mr. President.
We wish to assure the good sponsor that the questions we will raise here
and the amendments that we will submit later during the period of
amendments are aimed to make the provisions clear, remove the ambiguities,
both in substance and procedure, to make the law and its implementation and
order that we can submit to the good sponsor our views as to how to improve
the bill so that the prosecution arm and the law enforcement agencies of this
government can be more effective in their task to secure our borders and our
national security.
So, to start with, Mr. President, the gentleman is fully familiar with the
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Senator Lacson. That is an assurance, Mr. President.
Section 3 of our Constitution which says and I quote: “Civilian authority is, at
all times, supreme over the military. The Armed Forces of the Philippines is the
protector of the people and the State. Its goal is to secure the sovereignty of the
State and the integrity of the national territory.” These are the very clear terms
We note, Mr. President, that the bill proposed gives an expansive role to
our military establishment in the fight against terrorism. Just to give a few
role to our armed forces would be: 1) The military is given the authority to
undertake surveillance activities upon the order of the Court of Appeals; 2) The
military establishment can also apply with the Court of Appeals to compel
customer information and identification records; 3) The military can also apply
communications with the issuing court; 5) The military can also take into
Forces of the Philippines may also conduct, upon authority of the court,
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examination of bank records. This expansive role of the military is found in
Our question, Mr. President, is, given this role given by the bill to the
function of law enforcement rests on the police organization. The military will
play a supportive role to assist our police officials in the implementation of this
proposed measure.
Senator Drilon. Very good. In other words, the primacy of the PNP is
the NBI that will play the lead role. But, of course, in some areas where
terrorism is, shall we say, abundant in its activities and the military presence
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, should we not give the Armed Forces of
the Philippines a more extensive role where the situation or the act constitutes
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Senator Lacson. That is correct, Mr. President. But the primacy of the
civilian authority is still there because if they conduct surveillance, they still
need to get judicial authorization from the civilian court. In this case, in our
proposal, not from an ordinary regional trial court but from the Court of
Appeals.
Senator Drilon. Yes, that is the present law. What we are really saying,
serious threats to our national security, I think it should be accepted that the
military should play a bigger role and maybe even take a lead.
Let me cite to the good sponsor Section 12 of Republic Act No. 6975.
In other words, Mr. President, what we are saying is, under our present
law and practice, the AFP is given a lead role even on matters involving
Republic Act No. 6975. That is correct, Mr. President. But the military operate
mostly in the rural areas where insurgency is so prevalent that the police
cannot handle alone the situation or the security threat. But by and large,
National Police.
whether the armed forces or the police would have jurisdiction over an offense
would depend really on the purpose for which the act is being committed where
primary responsibility of the armed forces as right now defined under our
existing laws.
then the Armed Forces of the Philippines takes the lead role. But as far as
that in the view of the sponsor, the Philippine National Police has the primary
obligation and duty to suppress terrorism and the AFP will play a secondary
role and only in those instances which are specified in the proposed law.
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Let us go to Section 4, Mr. President. First, a comment: I believe that the
noun “terrorism” as a description of the crime is better than “terrorist acts.” So,
at the appropriate time, maybe we can retain the noun “terrorism” to describe
the offense rather than “terrorist acts.” In any case, that will come later on. I
am just submitting that this early for the consideration of the good sponsor.
extraterritoriality will apply and, in those instances, it is very clear that the
nexus of the offense or an element of the offense takes place within the
because a terrorist act was committed but because of the fact that it concerns
the Philippines.
had dedicated one section defining a foreign terrorist because even if he is not
the Philippines, then, he may be put under the jurisdiction of this proposed
measure.
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Senator Drilon. Firstly, Mr. President, I am just talking about the
present law.
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, the present law, under Section 58,
defines the principle when extraterritoriality will apply: 1) when the person
who commits crimes defined and punished under this Act within the terrestrial
commit any of the offenses punished by this Act inside the territorial limits of
limits of the Philippines, commit any of the said crimes on a board Philippine
ship; 4) when the person, although outside the territorial boundaries of the
So, if we will note, Mr. President, in the present law, there is always a
relation to the security of the Philippines, or the security of its territory, or the
would appear under Section 4 that there is no longer a need for a nexus in the
Philippines.
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Senator Lacson. That is still the principle applied under the proposed
measure, Mr. President. It is the interest or the safety and security of the
Senator Drilon. Yes. I agree with that, Mr. President. That is when the
et cetera.
principle.
Senator Drilon. Yes, because the way it is phrased here, Mr. President,
right now, the way the bill is phrased, especially in the case of foreign terrorist
they go from one country to the other with a purpose of committing terrorist
the law?
Senator Lacson. Theoretically, yes, Mr. President. But the long arm of
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When they are here, then we acquire jurisdiction. In the first place, even if we
have the capability to arrest them in Indonesia, we cannot apply this proposed
measure in Indonesia.
they can be punished with the maximum penalty of life imprisonment without
Philippines a safe haven for terrorists. If the gentleman remembers the Maute
Senator Drilon. Right. But did they not commit a punishable offense
punish them. Maybe we should deport or extradite them to the country where
the offense was committed. But I do not think it is a correct legal principle that
they should be punished in the Philippines for acts done in another country
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Senator Lacson. But if they attempt to come here, then, as I said, once
they are here, they may be punished under this proposed measure.
President. Even if the terrorist act was committed outside of our jurisdiction,
once they attempt to come here, and we have sufficient evidence to show that
the proposed measure will be giving the authority to arrest and punish. But, of
Senator Lacson. Yes, Mr. President. He can still be covered under the
proposed measure.
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Senator Drilon. There is no nexus or point of contact for the
Philippines. Why should we punish him with life imprisonment when there is
no point of contact?
sponsor and the Minority Leader. Perhaps, I would just like to interject an item
as the Minority Leader interjected Article 2 of the Revised Penal Code, which is
Philippine ship,” et cetera, among others. But, perhaps, the good sponsor is
this would clarify what the good sponsor is saying that, indeed, even without
the nexus being posited by the good Minority Leader, there is indeed
and it refers to an idea that a national court may prosecute individuals for
serious crimes against international law such as crimes against humanity, war
crimes, genocide, torture, terrorism, based on the principle that such crimes
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I heard of a crime committed in Indonesia without a connection to
Philippine penal laws or international order itself which individual States may
of criminal jurisdictions are not available. For example, the defendant is not a
national of the State; the defendant did not commit a crime in that State’s
territory or against its nationals; or the State’s own national interests are not
Mr. President. That is probably the missing link that the good Minority Leader
this, this will be part of the parliamentary exchange when, probably, the good
because the good Minority Leader was looking for a nexus or a legal
connection.
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What the gentleman from Cavite has pointed out is the definition of
That is what he just pointed out and rightly so, Mr. President, because in
our case, we are invoking the extrajudicial application provided that this clause
Senator Drilon. Well, Mr. President, the present Revised Penal Code
very clearly outlines when extraterritoriality can be evoked. Let me read Article
preferential application, the provisions of this Code shall be enforced not only
within the Philippine archipelago, including its atmosphere, its interior waters
and maritime zone, but also outside of its jurisdiction, against those who:
(5) Should commit any of the crimes against national security and the
law of nations.”
What are the crimes against national security? Treason, conspiracy and
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against the law of nations include inciting to war or giving motives for reprisals,
enemy country, piracy in general, and mutiny on the high seas or in Philippine
waters.
In the case of People vs. Lol-lo and Saraw decided by the Supreme Court,
the Supreme Court held that piracy is not a crime against any particular State
but against all mankind. That is why even when not one of the elements—
rule.
many difficult legal questions to resolve. And in this particular case, the
Philippines.
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Senator Drilon. In other words, if a foreign terrorist would move from
one country to another or abroad, sowing terrorist acts in foreign countries and
has nothing to do with the Philippines, it is still a crime under the Philippine
law.
because the provision under the Revised Penal Code is very limiting and that is
the reason why we included the phrase “in or outside of the Philippines.”
During the committee hearing, Mr. President, last August 13, General
Monteguda, the NICA director general, raised one problem that the law must
address. Kaya nga isiningit natin dito ito, Mr. President. For example, and this
planning to come back here sa Pilipinas? And in the same manner, we are also
faced with the parallel question: What should we do with foreigners who
commit terrorist acts abroad and then come to the Philippines to evade
prosecution in the place where they committed their terrorist acts? Kaya
medyo in-expand nga natin to cover foreign terrorists; and even those who
Senator Drilon. Well, our submission, Mr. President, is that there are
saying that we should be helpless, but what we are saying is, to punish that
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the integrity of the national territory or the national sovereignty or the security
in case of conflict of laws, for example, in order that it applies, there must be a
point of contact in one country. That is our problem with a very broad and, to
I am sorry, Mr. President, but my little knowledge of the law would not
accept the proposition that he who had nothing to do with the Philippines, not
plotting against the Philippines, not doing act which would undermine our
national security, who comes here--even if he does not come here--the bill
Senator Lacson. This will not apply, Mr. President. The general
principle that would apply is that, if a foreign terrorist commits the crime
abroad and he does not come to the Philippines, then we cannot really reach
him. We cannot acquire jurisdiction. But under the proposed measure, he can
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, to our mind, those are two different
issues--the matter of ability to enforce the law and the law itself. Let me cite to
the good gentleman page 10, Section 10 of the proposed measure. Let me
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IMPRISONMENT WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF PAROLE AND THE BENEFITS
OF R. A. NO. 10592:
TERRORIST TRAINING.”
planning to commit such acts abroad, nothing to do with the Philippines, the
fact that he crosses borders would make him liable for life imprisonment in the
Philippines.
Senator Lacson. Not for crossing borders but for planning a terrorist
on page 10, line 6, letter (A), the following acts are unlawful and is punished by
life imprisonment for any person to travel or attempt to travel to a state other
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Senator Drilon. No, Mr. President. If that is the intention, first of all,
to travel to a state other than his or her state of residence for purposes of. So,
it is the act of traveling which is punished, and the act of traveling is for the
Senator Lacson. The act of traveling per se will not be punishable. But
Senator Drilon. And that act has nothing to do with the Philippines.
Mr. President. Because that is why we are applying the definition of universal
Senator Lacson. Let me point out, Mr. President. The basis for this is a
UN Security Council Resolution 2178 in 2014. It says, “Calls upon all Member
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Senator Drilon. Yes, Mr. President. I am sorry but I did not
comprehend.
traveling.
Senator Drilon. All right. Anyway, may we have a copy of what the
If the person does not commit the purpose as enumerated and he keeps
on traveling, we would not mind him, Mr. President. He can travel for all he
cares. But if he travels for the purpose of committing the acts as enumerated,
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Senator Drilon. All right, Mr. President.
penalty doon sa actual commission of the terrorist acts dito sa traveling for the
Senator Drilon. Well, thank you, Mr. President. But also the fact that
he travels from, say in my example, from Malaysia to Indonesia for the purpose
Now, under Section 4 also, it enumerates the acts which are considered
unlawful. We are going beyond now the extraterritorial issue. The following
acts which are considered unlawful and it enumerates under page 6 the
unlawful acts that are punishable. What I note significant here is on page 7,
line 4, “threat to commit any of the acts listed in paragraphs (A) to (D) of this
the acts listed in paragraphs (A) to (D) of the section, meaning, the previous
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paragraphs. But it is qualified again when the purpose of such act, by its
are referring to would be connecting the threat to commit any of the acts listed
in paragraphs (A) to (D) of the section where the purpose is as so stated. With
President.
attempt to commit any of the acts listed in paragraphs (A) to (D), a threat to
OF THIS SECTION.”
crime.
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Senator Lacson. Under Section 6, Mr. President.
amendments along this line. But what we have intended under these two
My reading of Section 4 (E), particularly on line 9, when the act that has
undermined public safety, can we be a bit more specific than such description?
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Senator Lacson. All right, Mr. President.
Senator Lacson. Imagine if this hall is bombed, we are all gone, Mr.
President, and the fundamental political structure has been destroyed, has
acts enumerated in (A) to (E) would be punished when the purpose of such act,
by its nature and context, is to intimidate or put fear except an actual bombing
Our question here, Mr. President, what is the difference between this
and the crime of grave threats under the Revised Penal Code?
acts, iba po iyon. We are always bound by the intent and purpose of the act.
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Senator Lacson. Not necessarily, Mr. President.
earlier, ito iyong Section 4, iyong fundamental. Ito po, “The purpose of such
act, by its nature and context, is to intimidate, put in fear, force or induce the
the crime.
Now, let me cite some specific example and try to draw an opinion from
the good sponsor. Currently, we see a lot of rallies, protests in Hong Kong.
That kind of protests has led to the collapse of the economy of Hong Kong
practically. The anti-government protests have gone on for six months and
have really harmed the economy. Now, assuming for the sake of argument,
that something similar happens here, would that act or the act of the
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Senator Lacson. No, Mr. President. It will not be included because the
instances of violence.
Senator Drilon. The purpose in Hong Kong is to force the Hong Kong
government…
their freedom, even to choose their leaders, to exercise suffrage. If that is the
Senator Drilon. All right. Mr. President, it is good that we have this on
Senator Lacson. We are grateful that the gentleman is pointing this out,
so that we can further enlighten our colleagues that such acts, no matter how
violent, if the purpose is not as enumerated under the proposed measure, then
For example, even if there is violence on the streets to call for freeing
separate--
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Senator Drilon. Under the Revised Penal Code.
Senator Lacson. Yes, under the Revised Penal Code, Mr. President.
the intent of the author—if we recall, after the MOA-AD was rejected as
unconstitutional, there was some violence in Mindanao, and the objective was,
very clearly, to press for the passage of the Bangsamoro Basic Law. If this
measure was law at that time, would the members of the Bangsamoro be liable
for terrorism?
Senator Lacson. If the purpose does not fall under the provision as
Senator Lacson. I do not think it will fall under the provisions of this
Senator Drilon. Why is that, Mr. President? The proposed measure says
“to induce the government or the public to do or abstain from doing any act.”
Compelling the government to pass the Bangsamoro Basic Law, would that put
Senator Lacson. Well, I suppose what they are fighting for is their right
Senator Drilon. We must be very careful because I agree with the good
sponsor that if we look at history, there were struggles for independence that
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were attended by violence. And I do not think history will be kind to us if we
Senator Lacson. No, Mr. President, we will not call them terrorists. I
Mr. President, if I may. For example, even if in the end, they are cleared of
terrorism charges because they were ruled to have just exercised their
the meantime, some or many of them would have spent time in jail being held.
So, that is probably one danger that we should guard against. Because, maybe
in the end, sabi nga, it did not amount to a terrorist act, but there is some
suffering which will be inflicted upon our people because of some vagueness in
the law.
in Lagman vs. Medialdea. Ang sabi ng Korte Suprema po rito, “In determining
what crime was committed, we have to look into the main objective of the
crime is rebellion. If, on the other hand, the primary objective is to sow and
create a condition of widespread and extraordinary fear and panic among the
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populace in order to coerce the government to give in to an unlawful demand,
Act.
the Minority Leader because we are testing now the concepts in this overhauled
bill.
say that they are protected. I hope I am clear because even at the end of the
trial, let us say, the persons are acquitted but the length of the trial, they
suffered.
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Senator Pimentel. Thank you, Mr. President.
violation of coup d’etat, Article 134-A, because the elements are different.
the way I read the sponsor’s present bill, Senator Honasan would be a terrorist.
failure. [Laughter]
interpellation because if we look at the hall, there are only six of us and these
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are very important issues that we are raising which I had hoped would be
intelligent vote.
And, at this point, Mr. President, with the indulgence and probably with
Senator Lacson. I move that we suspend the session for one minute,
Mr. President.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
Leader.
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Senator Drilon. Mr. President, after we suspended the session, Senator
Lacson and I had a conversation. And given the fact that the House of
Representatives is still far from coming up with the bill, in fact, it is just in the
committee, we have agreed that we will suspend our interpellation until next
suspends, with the consent of the Chamber, our availment of the period of
Senator Zubiri. Yes, Mr. President. With that, I move that we suspend
consideration of Senate Bill No. 1083 under Committee Report No.9.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
SPECIAL ORDER
Mr. President, with the permission of the Body, I move that we transfer
from the Calendar for Ordinary Business to the Calendar for Special Orders
Committee Report No. 31 on Senate Bill No. 1240, entitled
AN ACT INSTITUTIONALIZING BAMBOO INDUSTRY
DEVELOPMENT IN THE PHILIPPINES, CREATING THE
BAMBOO INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT CENTER (BIDC),
APPROPRIATING FUNDS THEREFOR, AND FOR OTHER
PURPOSES
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
BILL ON SECOND READING
S. No. 1240—Bamboo Industry Development Center
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we consider Senate Bill No.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
permission of the Body, the Secretary will read only the title of the bill without
[Insert]
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Entrepreneurship.
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The President. The gentleman from Mindanao, former Senate President
and is utilized extensively for a wide range of purposes such as walls, panels,
There are over a thousand bamboo species in the world and bamboo
industries are now thriving not only in Asia but also in other continents as
well. In the Philippines, there are about 62 species of bamboo, 21 of which are
endemic or native to the country while the rest were introduced from other
provides approximately 35% more oxygen and absorbs 40% more carbon
expected to grow about 5% more from 2019 to 2025. This industry has so
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much more potential. However, despite the bamboo’s importance, statistics on
its resources, production, and trade in the Philippines remain scarce and
economy.
The DTI, DOST, DENR, and DA, under their respective mandates have
makes it harder for the government to unlock its true potential. There is a need
to properly gather data and information on the production and commercial use
of bamboo products in order to tap its full potential. This will not only provide
additional resources to boost our economy, but also livelihood opportunities for
jointly with the Committees on Finance; and Ways and Means, are proposing
Senate bills authored by Sen. Cynthia A. Villar and Sen. Juan Miguel “Migz” F.
Zubiri. So, this representation sincerely thanks the authors of the bills for
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focusing our attention on the bamboo industry and opening our eyes to the
supporters of this effort who are here with us—some of them are here with us
Bureau, Mr. Cer Jay Jimenez; from the Bamboo Industry Development and
formerly from DOST-FPRDI, Dr. Florentino Tesoro; from Bambuhay, Mr. Mark
creating the Bamboo Industry Development Center (BIDC), the one-stop shop
The bill also highlights the duty of the DENR to ensure the production
FPRDI) is also designated as the main research and development arm for
provided such as the exemption from payment of any government share for the
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use of public lands for commercial bamboo plantation for a period of 10 years,
among others. Through these initiatives, the government will be able to collect
full support for the immediate passage of this bill. I believe that through this
Before I end, I would like to give our dear colleagues bamboo straws
53,000 hectares of bamboo stand across our islands, the bamboo industry is
one of the biggest areas of agricultural potential for the country. Even now,
the industry, bamboo has somehow managed to weather the storm—like the
grass itself, the industry has proven itself resilient in the face of many
challenges.
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Despite all odds, the bamboo has managed to keep its relevance as one of
such things as the humble bahay kubo, or the 200-year-old Bamboo Organ of
Las Piñas, or the innovative works of celebrated architects and designers like
But we cannot let the future of the bamboo plant lie entirely on its
cultural cachet. Right now, we are the fifth biggest bamboo industry in the
species that we also grow on our lands. We really could and should be going
us in the dust.
Instead, we have left the industry to its own devices and given its very
modernization of the field is not prioritized and funded, leaving us with dated
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left unassessed, given that no institution is in charge of collecting and
analyzing data regarding the industry’s raw materials, employment rates, and
economic impact.
proper support to all our agricultural industries, which means ensuring that
the bamboo industry gets its due. This bill aims to do just that. Under this
bill, the creation of the Philippine Bamboo Industry Roadmap will set the
under the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI). The Council will be
attached to the DTI so it can prioritize the economic potential of the industry,
and take advantage of the rising demands in the international bamboo market.
But while DTI fulfills that mandate, the Department of Environment and
tasked to ensure that the industry’s economic growth will not come at the cost
of ecological destruction.
With the Council in place, the industry will no longer have to struggle to
And I would like to add that in my many years of trying to push this
measure, whenever we asked the agency in charge, ang itinuturo nila ay DA.
give very little to the promotion of bamboo. So, we are happy that the DTI has
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taken its place and has taken the cudgels for the promotion of the bamboo
industry.
body that will bring disparate industry players together and guide them toward
unified success. And with the roadmap as guide, as formulated by the Council,
the industry will have a clear and focused path to carving its place as one of
carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. A healthier bamboo sector then will
farm which I got from the Carolina Farms of Mrs. Jimenez, the wife of Meynard
Jimenez of GMA 7, and we were able to buy the so-called Buddha Bamboo
which is a very cute pygmy bamboo and it grows only by about 10 feet and it
has little ripples like the stomach of a Buddha, so it is called Buddha Bamboo.
And we also have iron bamboo. It is all black, super matigas, kapag
pong mga variegated bamboo that I like as well, one of my favorites, which is
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We have in Bukidnon, Mr. President, what we call the giant bamboo. It
is about this thick like a tree and it grows as high as 100 feet tall and is found
the flooring of my house, Mr. President, was made out of bamboo. It looks like
So, there is so much potential in the industry, Mr. President, and there is
such a great demand for it in the local and international markets, especially in
culinary industry. These markets are hungry and waiting, we just need to help
the local bamboo industry get on track to fulfil that demand, and that help will
come in the form of the development roadmap and the development council.
The growth of the bamboo industry will mark a huge win for the nation—
And even, Mr. President, the Province of Iloilo, for example, they have a
In the Island of Panay, they also utilize a lot of bamboo. And, of course,
kapag may bagyo. We all know, of course, the fabled story on the bamboo
where the mighty tree, once the typhoon comes, sometimes succumbs to its
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winds and falls to the ground, but it is the bamboo, with its elasticity,
study the measure further, I move that we suspend consideration of Senate Bill
No. 1240.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
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At 6:01 p.m., the session was resumed.
Committee on the disagreeing provisions of Senate Bill No. 1074 and House Bill
No. 1026.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
on Senate Bill No. 1074, Sen. Ronald “Bato” dela Rosa is designated as an
and I had spoken earlier and he presented to me the speech made last
was a speech about the Southeast Asian Games. The Minority Leader pointed
out correctly that we did not refer the speech to any committee. Therefore, Mr.
President, I move that we refer the said speech to the Blue Ribbon Committee
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
And just for the record, related to the approval of the two resolutions
that we passed earlier for the two gold medalists in the recent SEA Games, I
245 was taking into consideration Proposed Senate Resolution No. 246.
The President. These are two separately approved resolutions. So, what
we approved, for the record, is Proposed Senate Resolution No. 245. And,
Senate Resolution No. 246, and not what the presiding officer mentioned as
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for
one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
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The President. The session is resumed.
So designated.
greet also Sen. Manny Pacquiao, once again, a happy, happy birthday. I can go
ADJOURNMENT OF SESSION
Mr. President, I move that we adjourn the session until three o’clock
tomorrow afternoon, Wednesday, December 18, 2019.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is adjourned until three o’clock tomorrow afternoon, Wednesday,
December 18, 2019.
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ANNEX "3"
At 3:00 p.m., the Senate President, Hon. Vicente C. Sotto III, called the
session to order.
The President. The 44th session of the Senate in the First Regular
Session of the Eighteenth Congress is hereby called to order.
Let us stand for the opening prayer to be led by Sen. Joel Villanueva.
PRAYER
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namin ang aming responsibilidad bilang Iyong mga lingkod para sa
ROLL CALL
Sen. Ronald “Bato” dela Rosa, a very happy birthday, Mr. President. We can see
from his outfit that it is a special day today. Nagpaburda po ng barong for his
birthday.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
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* Under detention
** Arrived after the roll call
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ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
gallery today.
headed by the Hon. Simon Bridges, leader of the Opposition National Party;
member of the Ilam National Party; Hon. Mark Mitchell, member of the
Parliament for Rodney and member of the National Party; Hon. Paulo Garcia,
district member of the National Party and the only Filipino in the New Zealand
Philippines.
The President. We welcome all our guests from New Zealand to the
visiting New Zealand and celebrated the new year in Auckland about three
years ago, and I must say that their country is a very beautiful country.
The President. And they also have very delicious agricultural products.
Senator Zubiri. Yes, Mr. President, especially lamb and milk. Actually,
We have also other guests in the gallery: Mr. Greco Belgica of the
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the mother of Sen. Koko Pimentel; and students from Our Lady of the
THE JOURNAL
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we dispense with the reading
of the Journal of the 43rd session, Monday, January 20, 2020, and consider it
approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
REFERENCE OF BUSINESS
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Introduced by Senator Revilla
RESOLUTION
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The President. Referred to the Committees on Local Government; and
Electoral Reforms and People’s Participation
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The President. Referred to the Committees on Civil Service,
Government Reorganization and Professional Regulation; Justice and Human
Rights; and Finance
RESOLUTIONS
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Introduced by Senator Gatchalian
Philippine Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Act of 2010, and also the
of his committee.
Oversight Committee on Republic Act No. 10121: for the majority, Sen. Francis
“Tol" N. Tolentino, Sen. Ronald “Bato” dela Rosa, and Sen. Christopher
Lawrence T. Go, Mr. President. And since under the provision of the Act, the
minority shall have at least two members and since there are only two
member, with the permission of the Minority Leader, I ask that Sen. Francis
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
Senator Zubiri. Thank you, Mr. President. With that, I move that we
resume consideration of Senate Bill No. 1083 as reported out under Committee
Report No. 9.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, may we recognize Sen. Panfilo M. Lacson;
Senator Drilon. Thank you very much, Mr. President. Will the
gentleman from Cavite, the sponsor of the measure, yield for further questions
Senator Drilon. Thank you very much, Mr. President. Once more, allow
us to spread into the Record our commendation to the gentleman from Cavite
for exerting effort in order to amend the present Human Security Act which
admittedly can stand improvement and would have to respond to what we have
experienced in this area in the last several years since its enactment.
important because it defines the crime that is sought to be punished under the
law. The first issue we note is that by the definition of Terrorist Acts, it
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definition of “any person” that is covered by this Act, this would include state
include any person? That it would include members of the armed forces, just
this is a criminal act. And therefore, as the sponsor being the former chief of
the Philippine National Police would agree, we must have a precise legal
definition, otherwise, the police agencies would find difficulty in providing the
is that correct?
President.
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Senator Drilon. From my readings, there are over a hundred definitions
Senator Lacson. There are over 109 definitions. I stand corrected, Mr.
President.
Senator Lacson. It all depends on the intent and the purpose of the act,
Mr. President.
Senator Drilon. That is correct, Mr. President. Yes, that is the purpose
of the act, and I agree with that. That is why by the definition on page 7, from
line 6 down, it is very clear that when the purpose of such act, by its nature or
Now, in the United States, the statute that defines terrorism clearly
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political, religious, ideological, or social objectives. Would that standard be
ordinary criminal?
Senator Lacson. That could qualify but not necessarily, Mr. President,
Senator Drilon. Well, precisely, in the United States statute, the purpose
same purpose that would qualify the act as an act of terrorism under our
proposed measure?
did not apply. We are not applying the provision under the US statute on the
Senator Drilon. So that we spread that into the Record that the act of
objective.
substituted the purpose of the act by its nature and context. It must be
committed to: (1) intimidate, put in fear, force or induce the government or any
public safety. So, we substituted what are stated under the US statute.
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Senator Drilon. There is an effort to broaden the applicability; it need
not be for political, religious, ideological, or social objectives. So, that need not
be alleged in the information and not proven in the course of the trial that this
essential.
acts are basically based on the proposed convention but letter (E) of the
PARAGRAPHS (A) TO (D) IN THIS SECTION” which is not included in all these
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explain--if we relate this Section 4 to Section 6, Section 6 is attempt or
Senator Drilon. Thank you very much, Mr. President. Because that
really confuses. Thank you for that response so that we can remove that letter
(E).
Senator Drilon. At the proper time so that we can make the definition
more precise.
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Senator Drilon. Yes, it is still on Section 4, on page 7, lines 9 to 11. In
what this means when and if a prosecutor would want to prosecute a crime
the purpose, we culled this from the different provisions of other ASEAN
Senator Drilon. The reason why we are asking that, Mr. President, is
that, to our mind, the qualification is a little bit broad. What kind of acts would
acts itself, then that could fall under this category, Mr. President. Or if a
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because of a terrorist act or a threat of a terrorist act, then that would affect
the fundamental political structure of the country. Or even the Philippine Stock
adversely the economic activities of that country, in this case, the Philippines.
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, is that not covered by the preceding line
particular act?
preceding paragraph, it involves the public at large, but in this case, we are
Tolentino is recognized.
Leader.
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Senator Tolentino. Just to clarify and for the information of this Body.
The President. Well, perhaps, the best way for the gentleman from
the sponsor.
Senator Tolentino. No, Mr. President. Just for the information of the
Body and the general public. I just wish the Body to be clarified regarding an
Senator Tolentino. And if the good sponsor will answer, with more
reason that I will pursue this, with the permission of the gentleman, of course.
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The discussion is anchored on an agent acting in behalf of a State. Mr.
earlier, the law does not exempt anyone. But the person committing the act of
terrorism must be bound by the purpose as stated under the measure, Mr.
he should be, likewise, held accountable or criminally liable for such act
terrorism.
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, with the permission of the good sponsor,
in my humble view, this bill and the law should not apply to state agents
because they are governed by some other law--the Penal Code or some other
act.
defined in Title 22, Chapter 38, U.S. Code No. 2656, specifically includes only
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acts committed by non-state actors. So that a state actor, although he is liable
for the crime committed, the crime is not under the Anti-Terrorism Law but
Mr. President. If we are members of the Armed Forces of the Philippines, then
we are covered by the Articles of War instead of some criminal acts covered by
uniformed services who are not covered by the Articles of War? Does it also
mean that…
Senator Drilon. Well, that is the way with the gentleman from Cavite…
good Minority Leader refers to, perhaps, the overall umbrella covering consular
officers, diplomatic officers, who are probably exempt from suit. But, there are
peculiarities, and the good sponsor is familiar with this, when our PNP officer is
likewise.
espionage, who will later on claim that he is not part of this because he is a
diplomat. And because of that, he is immune from suit and, therefore, cannot
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be subjected to the provisions of this proposed bill. I would like to clarify that,
this bill was calendared, I specifically asked the question of the good sponsor.
It was a question asked in jest but very applicable to what we are debating
Remember, he was a member of the armed forces at the time when the coup
d’état was launched, and he did acts which will compel the government to do
something.
Now, in other words, by ordinary definition, because the law says “any
person,” Senator Honasan would have been covered. But the gentleman from
Cavite, the good sponsor, said, “No, Senator Honasan would have been covered
by the Revised Penal Code, including the coup d’état, if that was existing at
that time, but not by the Anti-Terrorism Law because he was a state actor. He
was a member of the armed forces.” That is how the debate went on. Of
course, it is a matter for this Body to decide later on how to precisely define
person.” That means, whether or not one is a state agent or a law enforcement
officer, if he commits acts which fall under the definition, he can be prosecuted
under the Anti-Terrorism Law. That is how I understood it, Mr. President.
The President. Did the Minority Leader concur with the answer of the
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Senator Lacson. I do not think so, Mr. President.
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, under the present wording of the bill,
Senator Honasan could have been prosecuted if this was law because the law
Senator Drilon. …assuming that at that time they were committed, this
was already in existence. By the phrase “any person,” Mr. President, that would
include Senator Honasan because it does not exempt state agents, meaning,
public officers, who could be prosecuted for another crime but not under the
committed, but the prosecution should be under another statute, not under
But, of course, it is a policy issue. Right now, the good sponsor is saying
“any person” is covered. And, at a certain point, the Chamber would have to
Senator Tolentino. Mr. President, one last point before I yield the Floor.
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Senator Tolentino. Relative to Section 4--which I recall was exhaustively
Senator Tolentino. Just one last question, Mr. President, before I yield
the Floor.
I did my research during the Christmas break. And for the information of
this Body, it appears, and perhaps the Committee on Foreign Relations should
take cognizance of this, that the Philippines is not even a signatory to a very
attempting to commit any terroristic act if we cannot even serve the necessary
the matter, we are very familiar with the Ghosn case which involves a Brazilian
president of Nissan, who was prosecuted in Japan, went to Turkey, and then,
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finally, settled in Lebanon, and even Japan, with the help of the Interpol,
cannot acquire jurisdiction over Mr. Ghosn, who, apparently, posted bail in
question. And if the good sponsor, or if the Minority Leader, can help clarify
this predicament on how our courts will acquire a long-arm jurisdiction over a
Senator Lacson. Well, the answer to that is yes and no. If it is outside
once he steps into our territory, then we can acquire jurisdiction under the
interjected that we can actually acquire jurisdiction over foreign terrorists, but
only when they step on the shores of the country, Mr. President.
outside of the Philippines, and the period of prescription for those outside of
the Philippines will start only once the court acquires jurisdiction. So, we
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conspirators are already in jail, or perhaps released, or perhaps the crime has
prescribed. But for the other participants coming from outside of our territory,
Mr. President.
Senator Lacson. I think the law on prescription will apply. For capital
offenses, it is 20 years. So, if that terrorist does not come to our country to be
prosecuted, and after a lapse of 20 years, the crime against him shall
prescribe.
Senator Tolentino. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you to the two
Senator Lacson. Anything that will enhance this measure is, of course,
Senator Drilon. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you to the gentleman
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Mr. President, on the issue of extraterritoriality, a cardinal principle of
criminal law is that the criminal law applies only within the territory of the
State which enacts this criminal law. I repeat that: As a general principle,
penal statutes are only applicable within the territory of the State which enacts
offense was committed outside of the country which enacts the law, the
outside of the jurisdiction. And under our Revised Penal Code, there are very
the acts are committed by public officers in the exercise of their functions. So,
My problem with the way the present law is worded, it does not anymore
require a point of contact with the Philippines. So that, with due respect to the
good sponsor, it may or it can lead to absurd situations and the administrative
the border to Indonesia, would have nothing to do with the Philippines, when
imprisonment.
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It is a little difficult that apart from the over extension of the principle of
Even if the Philippines has nothing to do with it, the person who commits a
If that is the purpose, Mr. President, would the gentleman agree to first
Revised Penal Code and under Section 58 of the present law? Instead of a
criminal offense, once the terrorist comes to our country, he is stopped at the
border and deported to the place where he committed the terrorist act.
And because of the global nature of terrorism, we can apply the universality
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principle to cover even foreign terrorists who have committed acts of terrorism
fulfilling our obligation if we make sure, if we exert every effort and make sure
that our laws would allow us to hold in our borders a terrorist and deport him
or her to the country where he or she is facing a case for anti-terrorism acts
rather than prosecuting him/her here with all the difficulties attendant to such
where the acts were committed because if we incarcerate the person here, it is
So, that is why our humble suggestion is that, yes, if these are foreign
terrorists who come to the shore of the country or to our boarder, do not allow
them entry; deport them immediately to the country where they are facing
criminal charges. The gentleman from Cavite should be fully familiar with this
being the former chief of the Philippine National Police that there are so-called
“red alerts” when an accused from a foreign country comes to our shores and
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To me, policy consideration would dictate that we should follow that
regrettably, I cannot agree that even if no element of the crime concerns the
Philippines, we can impose a life imprisonment here. Because in the first place,
we may not even be able to prove this offense because of the difficulty of the
evidence. If I were the counsel for a foreign terrorist, the first thing I will do is
to ask for a speedy trial, and if the prosecution cannot present evidence, then
that terrorist is released. And the difficult deportation proceedings would have
to be instituted.
phenomenon. And having said that, the Revised Penal Code does not
Senator Lacson. And terrorism was non-existent, never heard of, at that
time, Mr. President. So, to limit the definition or the coverage of terrorist acts
within the provisions of the Revised Penal Code, would be a disservice to the
extraterritoriality.
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Senator Drilon. It is the applicability of the law outside of our
jurisdiction. The general principle is, the laws apply only within the territory of
Senator Drilon. I know, Mr. President. But may we know why we are
I move that we suspend the session for one minute, Mr. President.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended.
too limiting, Mr. President. It delimits the power of the State. And precisely,
Senator Drilon. The sponsor bracketed it and inserted the phrase “IN
or a terrorist in Indonesia, et cetera. But one thing that we can see is that we
cannot enforce administratively this power. What I would like to point out and
act does not in any way compel the Philippine government to do any particular
act because it has nothing to do with the Philippines. But we are imposing, if
has nothing to do with the country and would even punish by life
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imprisonment a person guilty of terrorism who would cross borders. So that a
the ISIS, and comes back here? Will we just let him go?
Senator Drilon. No, Mr. President, I disagree with that. That is why
treaty, we can have our own citizens deported to a foreign country to face the
I will repeat. The mere fact that one is a Filipino does not exempt him
from being brought to the other country wherein he committed a crime. That is
The President. But what if the Filipino did not commit any crime in
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Senator Lacson. Countries where the laws on terrorism provide for
criminal act.
proscribe?
joins that organization, then we can deport him to the United States.
The President. All right. If the Filipino is in Iran or Syria and he joins
in the place where he came from, we should arrest him at the border.
crime in that particular place. I am just using Syria as an example. But what
if he did not commit any crime and terrorism is not illegal in that particular
Senator Drilon. Well, Mr. President, a few years back, we repealed the
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Communist Party of the Philippines. That was a principle that we have
said, the better remedy could be, in our mind, not to allow the entry of the
foreigner in our shores and deport him to the place where the…
Senator Lacson. What if the country where the Filipino came from does
not have an extradition treaty with the Philippines? What will we do with the
Senator Drilon. Well, in Marawi City, that is not a good example, Mr.
there. The members of ISIS who landed in Marawi City to plan to commit
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terrorism, we cannot do anything about them because of the absence of this
being proactive, to our mind, can be served if we exclude the criminal or the
terrorist from our territory. If he is a Filipino, then we can bring him to the
terrorist act under our proposal. We are talking about acts committed outside
for example, and then we do not have extradition treaties with Syria, but he is
The President. All right. Then we concur with the answer then.
avail of the period of interpellation at the appropriate time so that our train of
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Senator Tolentino. Mr. President, just one line here. Relative to the
should be made aware of the current trend that most Latin American countries
Nicaraguan in the United States, the Nicaraguan court will not assume
That goes the same with citizens coming from Costa Rica, Guatemala, Ecuador,
and Dominican Republic. What these Latin American countries are doing is,
they file a case in the United States as the forum; we will no longer assume
jurisdiction because the United States has more resources. “Go ahead, try it in
the United States.” But here we are, with due respect, in our proposed bill, we
are willing to assume more cases to be filed in our home court, so to speak,
With due respect, Mr. President, this is against the current trend of
unloading cases and giving it to courts, to forum with more resources, such as
the United States. They can try in their federal courts the terrorists and the
Latin American countries will no longer accept that. So, I am looking at the
the evidence sprouted in Nicaragua. Nicaragua will no longer accept that and
difficulties.
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Salamat po, Minority Leader; salamat po, good sponsor.
back to our country having planned the terrorist act abroad to be perpetrated
in the Philippines.
applicable because there is a contact point— the Philippines. That is all what
we are saying because the way it is phrased now under the bill, our courts can
acquire jurisdiction over all acts of terrorism all over the world.
because, apparently, the sponsor is not willing to yield at this particular point.
trained abroad would come back to the Philippines and we just welcome him,
not doing anything to proactively prevent any possible act of terrorism. That is
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what I cannot accept, Mr. President, because it entails loss of lives, destruction
fundamental political structure of the country. Shall we wait for the act to be
Senator Drilon. No, Mr. President, we are not waiting for that. We will
not be waiting for that. The moment he becomes a member of ISIS which
that--
arrested?
ourselves by not allowing him entry into our boarders and deport him to a
place…
is coming back. But if we are not able to monitor that he has already come
Senator Drilon. No, Mr. President. We are talking here about principles
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Senator Drilon. The first principle is that a criminal statute is only
applicable and enforceable within the borders of the country which enacted the
principle under our criminal laws. That is all that we are saying. We are saying
that in order to justify the applicability for acts committed outside of the
country, it must have a point of contact with the Philippines. Whether the plan
would make us the venue for terrorist acts all over the world is simply not
jurisdiction over acts committed outside of the borders by the citizen of that
country where the criminal is its citizen. And in the enumeration, maybe what
committed by a Filipino.
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Senator Lacson. How about if it is committed by a foreign terrorist who
no point of contact for the Philippines, the principle of territoriality will apply,
and if he comes to the Philippines, the remedy should be to deport him and not
allow entry into the country rather than letting him undergo trial in our
be too late to act, Mr. President. That foreign terrorist may have already
proceedings.
Senator Lacson. If we are able to detect and monitor him, Mr. President.
terrorist who…
Senator Drilon. No, Mr. President. Because this would apply to all.
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country with no relation to the Philippines or if he even crosses borders
Minority Leader said. But I just want to clarify, are we talking about a foreign
terrorist who commits an act of terrorism abroad and comes in here? The
provision.
Senator Gordon. Is that the principle that the gentleman is trying to…
President.
act against a foreign entity abroad, under the principle of this measure, any
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Filipino or foreigner who commits an act in or outside the Philippines is liable.
Is that correct?
act abroad which targets any and not the Philippines, I do not think that the
prosecuted.
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Senator Gordon. Under the IHL, hindi ba? If he commits barbaric acts,
kills a lot of people, and he tries to come in here, we have a solemn duty to
arrest him not under the terrorism law but under the IHL.
the Human Security Act. We are trying to strengthen the law against
terrorism.
strengthen but we have a principle in law that we should not interpret the law
to the point of absurdity. And it is our humble proposition that to make the
extraterritoriality principle apply to every act of terrorism all over the world.
Leader, I agree with Senator Lacson. Because, I think, if somebody like that
And he comes to our country. What can we do about him? Deport him,
correct?
Senator Drilon. Deport him, yes, to the place where he is facing the
criminal case.
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Senator Gordon. He is already here like the bomb maker Marwan.
last count, if I remember. And he can come in here; he becomes a clear and
present danger here because he can train, he can bomb, he can maim people
here. So, the point here is, perhaps, the debate is not on extraterritoriality
alone but the very fact that it is practically self-defense on the part of the
Senator Gordon. And if we put that in the terrorism law, I think, that
Muslim guys who leave their country and go to Syria--even bomb other people
in Syria and other places--go to Turkey and sometimes they are arrested. I
think we should look at that. When they come back, are they arrested in
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Senator Lacson. Mag-aalisan sila roon, pupunta silang lahat sa
Pilipinas.
prosecuting them here where the prosecution is very difficult and almost
impossible, exclude them from the Philippine territory, deport them to the
place where they committed the offense and where they are facing charges, and
not allow them entry into the country. That is all that we are saying, Mr.
President.
Senator Gordon. I just have two problems with that, Mr. President.
The President. Following the thesis of the Minority Leader, yes, indeed,
that can be so, but we will have to arrest him in order to deport him.
arrest him.
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Senator Drilon. So, the point is, we can deprive that terrorist of his
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for a few minutes.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for one minute
because they are still not in the Session Hall.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
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It was 5:07 p.m.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, our colleagues have requested if they can
continue the interpellation of the bill tomorrow.
Proposed Senate Resolution Nos. 106, 107, 108, 123 and the Privilege Speech
August 27, 2019 as reported out under Committee Report No. 17.
consideration of Proposed Senate Resolution Nos. 106, 107, 108, 123 and the
Privilege Speech on the Good Conduct Time Allowance of Sen. Richard Gordon
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The President. Sen. Richard Gordon, chairman of the Committee on
interpellations.
Leader.
Senator Drilon. For the record, there will be another report which is to
Senator Zubiri. That is correct, Mr. President. There is still a Part II.
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The President. The committee will have, in a future time, a committee
interpellations.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
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PRIVILEGE SPEECH OF SENATOR GORDON
coronavirus that is now raging in Wuhan, China. In view of the fact that it is a
novel coronavirus first reported in Wuhan when more than 40 individuals were
possible measure to combat a new coronavirus that has infected 217 people in
China.
was documented—that is good. However, in the past few days, some countries
have confirmed the spread of this virus—one confirmed case in Seoul, South
who traveled from Wuhan, China and was admitted in Cebu City for
manifesting fever, throat irritation, and cough prior to entering the Philippines.
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DOH is also monitoring three individuals with flu-like symptoms upon
entering the country via the Kalibo International Airport from China, but
without any history of travel to Wuhan and without any known contact with a
virus, not only because we have heavy traffic of travelers from China, but we
are on the coast of Chinese New Year, Mr. President, which is on January 25,
and this is one of the longest holidays in China where everybody travels.
Lahat po ay nagbibiyahe riyan. They travel within China and they also travel
In 2019, there are about 1.5 million Chinese tourists in the country. In
January 2019 alone, 131,196 Chinese flew to the Philippines. That is so far in
This is serious and we must act swiftly and boldly. I have been informed
outbreak.
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It is our duty to prepare for a possible spread of the coronavirus in our
country. Airports and seaports need to be on full alert. Beyond this, every
have to put in place contingency plans for patients who are consulting for
We should put a firewall in the hospitals which can prevent the virus
kinds of cases.
First, as we know, when they go in, if there are suspected cases, they
coronavirus like SARS and MERS, hospitals have had to close down and
health workers who see the patients are at high risk for disease and even
death.
flu-like symptoms already. So what are the plans? What are the protocols for
Batangas, one could imagine how a contagious virus could wreck havoc on our
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I would like to call on the leadership of all government agencies to
immediately put in place the preparedness plans for this weekend, a time of
high risk – travelling of people from China to all parts of the world –
information is critical, and all the mandatory quarantine and contact tracing
machinery need to be in place. They are already in place in our major airports,
Let us not wait for this to go out of hand. I am glad that the DOH is
already on hand. They had a press conference today and I am happy that they
are alerted to this. Let us sound the alarm now and prepare for a worst case
lives and protect our people. Therefore, there must be a very good
communication plan so that people will not panic and would know what to do.
that could cause serious disease and unexpected death to a better result, Mr.
President.
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we refer the privilege speech
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
RESOLUTIONS
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The President. Referred to the Committees on Health and Demography;
and Finance
COMMITTEE REPORT
The Secretary. Committee Report No. 33, submitted jointly by the
Committees on Public Order and Dangerous Drugs; and Justice and Human
Rights, on P. S. Res. No. 47, introduced by Senator Hontiveros, entitled
will hold its plenary session tomorrow, Wednesday, the 22nd of January 2019,
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The President. I think they just want to inform us. So, we place that on
With the consent of the Body, I move that we transfer the referral of
Senate Bill No. 1, the Medical Scholarship bill, from the Committee on Health
Education as the primary committee. Similar bills were filed and referred to the
wants to set the hearing already, Mr. President. So, for the record.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
Senator Zubiri. Also, Mr. President, Senate Bill No. 1259, Teacher’s
Salary Upgrading Act. With the consent of the Body, I move that we transfer
the referral of Senate Bill No. 1259 from the Committee on Basic Education,
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similar bills of the same nature were referred to the Committee on Civil Service,
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motions is approved.
5.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
With the permission of the Body, the Secretary will read only the title of the bill
without prejudice to inserting into the Record the whole text thereof.
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The following is the whole text of the resolution:
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Senate Concurrent Resolution No. 5
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Majority Leader.
would picture Congress itself or even the Senate as a coequal body in terms of
Senator Zubiri. Not at all, Mr. President. Not a coequal body because
the idea for the intergovernmental relations system or setup was really to
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problem between the Department of Health and BARMM with the Ministry of
Health, the intergovernmental relations body headed by their minister and our
secretary will meet to iron out these problems. But, on oversight functions,
there is no question that the Constitution is very clear that Congress has an
Senator Zubiri. Yes, Mr. President. And, also I have here the transcript
cited how the Philippine Congress and the Bangsamoro Parliament Forum
could help in the creation of a new separate province. Also, if the Bangsamoro
Parliament Forum could approach Congress through the said forum to ask for
assistance in the creation of new LGU.” So, that was the idea on the
mechanism.
I think, to put it in proper context, the good gentleman from Cavite had
approached me yesterday and, basically, had said that they would want to have
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Unfortunately, there was a letter sent to the good senator which I also
retrieved just now. Basically, the chief minister had asked that the only time
because there is nothing wrong for them to come. We actually asked private
sectors to come here. We have heads of private corporations come here to shed
light on particular issues. They are not even part of government. So, I think, we
have to relay the message, Mr. President, as a Body, that that was not the
Law.
We, at any time, can still call out a government agency to come, and to
Even at times, we ask the Executive department, even the Judiciary, when we
have cases and the chairman of the Committee on Justice and Human Rights
President, because we will now form our delegates because I would like to relay
this as part of the leadership and author of the measure, together with the
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particular, to be members of this intergovernmental body which is the
to inform them that that was not the intent of the creation of this Body. We can
still invite them to attend, and they should actually. We should encourage
them to attend these hearings in the Senate, if that would satisfy the good
gentleman.
coequal. Perhaps, in Section 3, the purpose of the law was related to the
details from the Bangsamoro entity. So we now have Section 3, which will have
would not need the intercession of Congress, or the Senate as a Body, would be
President.
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Senator Drilon. If we can help clarify the issue, Mr. President.
If we recall, Mr. President, when the bill was passed in our Chamber, it
government and the Bangsamoro regional government. And when we sat down
in the bicameral conference committee, we pointed out that these powers being
shared can cause a lot of confusion and a lot of conflict because by the very
nature of its being a shared power, then the two bodies—the Bangsamoro
government and national government—will try to exercise that power. So, the
issue was, who will resolve the dispute or the disagreements? That is why in
And I concur with the good gentleman from Cavite that we should not be
because precisely this inter-government agencies would be the forum where the
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So, it is in that sense that there is no more shared power, and this
charge of the legal issues of the Bangsamoro Organic Law. Definitely, during
the discussions, there was no way that we were going to diminish our powers of
oversight. That was never the intention, and, for the record, we would like to
put that on record during the discussions. And, as I said earlier, no law that
already start the dialogue with them, and we would like to remind them that
Congress has oversight functions. So, iyon lamang po ito, which is under
The President. Thank you. I am, indeed, starting to believe that you
the Minority Leader is a legal luminary. And there is only a few legal
So, with that, I reiterate that I share the view of the good chairman of the
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Mr. President, no other member wishes to interpellate on the measure. I
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, before we move to adopt, under the law,
aside from the leadership, which is the Senate President Pro Tempore, Majority
Leader, and the Minority Leader, the Senate President may also designate other
Government.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
ADJOURNMENT OF SESSION
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, since there being no other matters to be
taken up today, I move that we adjourn the session until three o'clock
tomorrow afternoon, Wednesday, January 22, 2020.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is adjourned until three o'clock tomorrow afternoon, Wednesday,
January 22, 2020.
It was 5:39 p.m.
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ANNEX "4"
At 3:00 p.m., the Senate President, Hon. Vicente C. Sotto III, called the
session to order.
The President. The 45th session of the Senate in the First Regular
Let us stand for the opening prayer to be led by Sen. Cynthia A. Villar.
PRAYER
Senator Villar.
Let us put ourselves in the presence of God.
Dahil sa ang ating buong bansa, lalo na ang ating mga
kababayan na lubos na apektado sa Batangas, Tagaytay, at sa
kalapit na mga lugar sa Calabarzon Region, ay patuloy na
nababahala at nag-aalala sa napipintong pagputok ng Taal
Volcano, ating dasalin ang panalangin ni Cardinal Luis Antonio
Tagle:
“Diyos na makapangyarihan, muli kaming humaharap sa
pagsubok dulot ng pagsabog ng Bulkang Taal. Napakaliit namin
upang harapin ang lakas ng bulkan. Subalit naniniwala kaming
mapapahupa ng Iyong kamay ang bangis nito. Iligtas Mo po kami
sa kapahamakan, lalo na ang mga mahihirap, may karamdaman,
mga bata at nakatatanda at nag-iisa.
Paigtingin Mo rin sa amin ang pagdadamayan,
pagmamalasakit at pangangalaga sa kapwa at kalikasan.
Hinihiling namin ito sa ngalan ni Hesukristo kasama ng Espiritu
Santo.
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Amen.”
ROLL CALL
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THE JOURNAL
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we dispense with the reading
of the Journal of the 44th session, Tuesday, January 21, 2020, and consider it
approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
Sen. Bong Go; and ASEZ (Save the Earth from A to Z), World Mission Society
of Business.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
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Introduced by Senator Recto
The Secretary. Letters from the Office of the President of the Philippines
transmitting to the Senate two (2) original copies of the following Republic Acts
which were signed by President Rodrigo Roa Duterte:
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The Secretary. Letters from the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas,
transmitting to the Senate copies of the following certified and authenticated
BSP issuances, in compliance with Section 15 (a) of Republic Act No. 7653 (The
New Central Bank Act):
Circular Letter Nos. CL-2019-084, 085, 086, 087, 088 and CL-2020-001
dated 21, 22 November 2019; 2, 19, 23 December 2019 and 2 January 2020;
Circular Nos. 1061, 1062, 1063, 1064, 1065, 1066, 1067, 1068, 1069
and 1070 dated 25, 26 November 2019; 3, 4, 13, 26 and 27 December 2019;
and
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
Dy.
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We also have with us the ladies of the Immaculate Conception Academy.
Senate Bill No. 1083 as reported out under Committee Report No. 9.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I ask that we recognize the sponsor of the
sponsor.
Mr. President, let me begin by assuring the good sponsor that I am one
the annual death toll caused by terrorism stands at about 21,000 people
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do need to be protected from acts of terrorism. However, it is equally important
that we do not, in our zeal, unintentionally provide tools that can be abused to
So, to start off, Mr. President, in Section 2, I noticed that the third and
development. While the fourth paragraph, on the other hand, guaranteed that
As both a peace advocate and a human rights advocate, may I know from
Senator Lacson. First of all, I would like to thank the distinguished lady
from Panay Island for expressing her full support for the passage of this
measure.
“Declaration of Policy” for the simple reason that we want the goal of this
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distinguished lady that all human rights safeguards are retained in the bill as
sponsor for that categorical assurance that all human rights safeguards remain
embedded in the bill. However, alam naman po natin and alam naman po ng
hindi kasing-halaga. That is the reason I asked this first question because I am
hoping that we are not sending our people the message that we are looking at
enforcement and not anymore explicitly mentioning human rights and peace.
I hope that we are not sending the message that we are willing to
Senator Lacson. That is also the reason why we did not include in any
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I will get to a related question to the point just mentioned by the good
sponsor in terms of the fundamental civil and political rights of our people a
little later.
EXECUTION” was introduced. I would like to ask the good sponsor this
Code, the penalty of a consummated offense differs from the penalty for a
so, why?
Minority Leader, we are willing to take out the word “attempted” and instead,
retain the word “conspiracy” to commit terrorist acts. Of course, we retain the
Senator Hontiveros. I thank the good sponsor, Mr. President, for that
remove the term “attempted.” But perhaps, at the proper time, I will continue
stage of execution.” In this same section, Mr. President--and this was also
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discussed by the good sponsor with the good Minority Leader--under
point out na ayaw nating magpasa ng batas na may provision which may be
interpreted or implemented to the point of absurdity. So, let me see po. If, for
economic loss, even destroy the economic structure of the country, could
po. Nandiyan.
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Senator Lacson. “PROVIDED, THAT, TERRORIST ACTS AS DEFINED
MASS ACTION WHERE A PERSON DOES NOT HAVE THE INTENTION TO USE
welga na ito would actually destroy the economic structure of the country,
kung ganoong klaseng claims ang gawin, puwede bang magamit itong
iyong purpose po, at saka kung wala naman pong violence na nangyari ay hindi
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Senator Hontiveros. Thank you, Mr. President. Indeed, the intent, very
komite. Kung magkaroon ng violence not instigated by the workers but in the
course of the strike or work stoppage, could this bill be stretched to determine
Senator Lacson. Hindi po kasi, unang-una, hindi naman iyon ang intent.
puwedeng sabihin na nating mga bad labor practices. So, hindi po papasok dito
So, first question about this Section 5, Mr. President--the mere act of
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would be punishable under this act, would be punishable by life
a terrorist act?
makasuhan.
Marxist or Marxian literature or materials that call for a revolution pero purely
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for reading pleasure, will that person get a life imprisonment without parole?
Hindi ko maiwasang isipin kung paano kaya itong probisyon. Ito ay maaaring
defense. Kasi kung maipakikita naman niya na, “Hindi, itong mga materials na
defense. And I wish, in fact, the good sponsor would have been willing to
extend this principle that it is a matter of defense in the case of any and all
Senator Lacson. We are always bound by the intent of the person, Mr.
President.
point in time of my interpellation of the good sponsor, dahil ito siguro iyong
thread leading through all my questions; ito iyong thought behind all my
ating mga batas. We need to craft laws assuming not the most benign of
leaders, not the most enlightened sa mga policymakers at law enforcers, not
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the most benign of leaders. We need to assume the most despotic of
medyo mahaba po, Mr. President. Ang una pong tanong ko sa good sponsor,
how do we make a message available to the public with the intent to incite
another by any means directly or indirectly to commit a terrorist act? And let
protest songs nila? Para mas lokal, puwede ba natin i-charge ang Buklod o si
acts. Pero kung wala namang call to commit violence or to commit terrorist
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ng nangyari sa Nice, France nang walang ibang intent kung hindi mag-sow ng
directly inciting another to commit a terrorist act. Nagiging mas mahirap po,
mas subject to interpretation, at sa ilalim nga noong sinabi kong posibleng most
At the proper time, Mr. President, I will propose and would like to seek
the opinion of the good sponsor at this point in time if he would accept an
Senator Hontiveros. Again, fair enough. Thank you for that possibility,
Mr. President.
na sinasabi?
Senator Lacson. I am sorry, Mr. President, I did not quite hear the…
when the conduct, lalo na kung indirect conduct, actually causes a danger of
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Senator Lacson. Well, it redounds to the violence that will be created.
Babalik na naman tayo roon sa intent at saka iyong purpose noong pag-i-incite
Section 8 excessively.
regard and there are many, Mr. President. Iyong Chavez vs. Raul Gonzales,
Salamat po.
So, Section 21 amends Section 24 of the Human Security Act and states that:
Regional Trial Court, with due notice and opportunity to be heard given to the
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and outlawed GROUP OF PERSONS, organization OR association, by the said
In the next section, Section 22, the court is required within 72 hours
respondent has the right to be heard and to show why the order of proscription
should be set aside, and the court is required to schedule a hearing within a
six-month period from the filing of the verified application to determine whether
lifted.
must act on the urgent prayer within 72 hours--tatlong araw lamang--it is given
the leisurely period of six months within which to schedule a hearing to give
the proscribed group or organization its day in court. Samakatuwid, within this
six-month period, the proposed amendments give the State and its agents a
freehand to, perhaps, wiretap, conduct surveillance, arrest, and detain any of
its members without a warrant, examine bank records and accounts, freeze
and seize properties, et cetera. And these are all legally possible even before the
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Senator Lacson. Hindi po ganoon, Mr. President. Iyong order of
case of the Abu Sayyaf. It took, I think, 11 or 12 years before the court
Tawi-Tawi, and Sulu. Kaya po natin naisip na gawing time-bound iyong gawain
we are also giving them the authority to issue a temporary order of proscription
within 72 hours.
kasing tindi ng Abu Sayyaf. What about groups who may later be proven na
na buwan wala silang day in court? Samantalang iyong action which was taken
against them ay naaksiyunan within just three days. Paano po iyong proportion
doon?
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Senator Lacson. Mr. President, it does not necessarily mean that every
time a petition is filed for proscription that the court will issue a temporary
proscription. And we are giving the court, under this proposed measure, six
months within which they should make the proscription order final or it could
nitong kaso ay mapatunayang mali pala ang na-proscribe, hindi pala siya
terrorist organization, hindi siya dapat na-outlaw, its members had to wait six
months to present their side for the consideration of the court? So, the court
does not have to do it. The court does not have to act on the request for a
iyong RTC. In the same manner, when a suspect is brought before a prosecutor
probable cause or to outright dismiss the case or release the respondent in the
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meantime that further investigation is being conducted by law enforcement. So,
puwede na kaagad paghuhulihin at arbitrarily the court can just issue the
temporary order of proscription. Instead, the court must first determine if there
Senator Lacson. Mr. President, let me correct the impression that iyong
wisdom of the court, then we are questioning the integrity of the Judiciary.
Let us assume that the RTC judges are competent enough to determine
hindi ko kasi itinatanong iyong 72-hour period, iyong three-day period. Ang mas
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iyong posibleng preliminarily proscribed. Dahil kapag ang sitwasyon ay nasa
here, Mr. President, iyon na nga. Paano na po iyong sitwasyon noong na-
And it will take a while before the Court can determine guilt or acquittal ng
suspects. So, ganoon din po ang takbo ng pangyayari dito. Before the court
establish clearly na mayroong probable cause. And mayroong six months ang
proscription order, then idi-dismiss din ng court iyon. But as the lady senator
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Senator Hontiveros. Yes, Mr. President. But, of course, hindi tulad ng
the entire group. So, it would allow the state a free hand, iyon na nga po, to
amendment for the consideration of the good sponsor, with emphasis on that
persons and not just organizations and associations. So, could I test this with
the good sponsor? “Any member of such a proscribed group of persons can be
property, et cetera, even without committing the specific acts that caused
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Senator Lacson. That is correct, Mr. President, as long as it is clearly
organization.
Senator Hontiveros. And since these are individuals, Mr. President, can
these include conjugal or family assets or only assets held by terrorist groups
terror organizations that existed for the purpose of committing what could
arguably, in some other setting, be defined under this bill as acts of terror,
such as the Reform the Armed Forces Movement or even the Magdalo Group.
such groups. Could they be made the subject of this proscription order?
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Senator Hontiveros. Earlier, the good sponsor discussed with the
Minority Leader the RAM or the Reform the Armed Forces Movement or even in
Senator Lacson. Iba po iyong intent. Kasi iyong Reform the Armed
Forces Movement, ang intent nila is to overthrow and it is a criminal act called
So, we will just go back to the definition of a terrorist act, Mr. President.
Medialdea. May mga existing naman pong Supreme Court rulings na puwede
The danger of a too lax standard of evidence is that we are giving, at ito
nga iyong sabi ko thread winding through all my questions, Mr. President,
authoritarian regimes carte blanche to arrest or detain any one it can link to a
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terrorist organization no matter how tenuous the connection. So, ano pong
Mr. President, I noticed that every time the lady senator mentions the
Napag-usapan natin ang korte kanina, Mr. President. Now, what is the
rationale for letting the RTC rule on applications for proscription? Bakit hindi
po iyong Supreme Court or iyong Court of Appeals considering that the Court
association at iyong kabuuang Bill of Rights natin. So, bakit hindi po iyong
the existing law which is RA 9372, RTC talaga iyong nagga-grant ng petition for
proscription.
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Senator Hontiveros. At the proper time, would the good sponsor
application? The law does not even specify the venue. So, technically, can the
application be filed with any RTC in the country? I believe this has the
potential to be abused.
Senator Hontiveros. So, the Supreme Court will designate which RTCs
iyong Supreme Court. In this particular case, the Supreme Court will designate
President.
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Senator Hontiveros. Thank you, Mr. President.
Section 27 and increases the period of detention from three days to 14 days.
What is the rationale, Mr. President, for increasing the period of detention from
three days to 14 days? So, from half week to two weeks. In the worst scenarios,
Ronald dela Rosa shared with the members of this Body his first-hand
With the permission of the lady senator, let us hear directly from Senator
Dela Rosa what he experienced; and it created more damage when he was not
secure the state and protect our people from terrorism by giving more teeth to
extend the reglementary period from the maximum period of 36 hours to what
able to arrest him in Davao City, but I had to release him before 36 hours
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because I do not have enough evidence to hold him further or beyond 36 hours.
But I was fully convinced and the intelligence community was fully convinced
and they were forcing me, they were pleading before me not to release this guy
because he was very dangerous. But I told them that I cannot do otherwise; I
cannot break the law. So, I had to release him. But months later, Mr.
President, the intelligence committee showed me the video from YouTube the
three of them, including Mohammad Reza were holding the head of the
European victim and slashing the throat of the victim. So, from being local
black flag terrorist here in the Philippines, in Lanao del Sur, he travelled to
Raqqa, Iraq and became an ISIS member. So, he was able to slash a lot more
throats of ISIS victims in Iraq and Syria. If there was a law allowing me to hold
him further beyond 36 hours, then many more lives could have been saved.
not just 36 hours, but 72 hours--doble po—or three days. Ang tinatanong ko
fact, should not the case be built up before arrest? Noong naaresto sa wakas
iyong Mohammad Reza and definitely, persons like him should be arrested and
iyong evidence na mayroon that prompted the good gentleman to make the
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Senator Dela Rosa. For the information of the good lady from Panay,
reports have no evidentiary value but they are classified as A1, meaning,
coming from the direct source and from first-hand information. Iba po iyon.
Alam natin na iyan na iyan talaga, but legally, it cannot stand in court. So,
from Panay, that instead of using the 72 hours as provided by the Human
Security Act, the law enforcers are more inclined to use the 36 hours provided
by ordinary laws other than the Human Security Act because we find more
convenience in using the other laws and because we find the Human Security
Act very anti-police. Instead of giving more teeth to the police, it is giving more
Senator Lacson. Because of the P500,000 per day fine, Mr. President.
So, instead of filing cases for violation of the Human Security Act, the police
would instead file ordinary violations of the Revised Penal Code to avoid this,
On top of what Senator Dela Rosa has shared with us, during the
committee hearings, the members of the law enforcement agencies shared with
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us their experience na kulang talaga iyong three days and they need, more or
less, 14 days. That is the reason why we incorporated in this measure iyong
days.
an indefinite period; and Singapore, indefinite period. Mabait po tayo kasi alam
ng mga bansa sa region natin. Mas gusto ko pa nga na hindi tayo manatiling
mabait pero…
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Kahit na nagmumukha tayong odd man out, mas gusto ko po sanang
struggling to uphold human rights and civil liberties even under very
humanap ng mga creative pero effective na paraan. I was even surprised doon
at bilang mistah ng good gentleman from Davao, and the good sponsor knows
this even more as a former chief-PNP, how hard our police and military
intelligence units work to gather iyong sinabi nga ng good gentleman from
itinanong na hindi ba iyong pag-aresto roon kay Mohammad Reza was actually
backed up by solid evidence that could stand in court in the prosecution of the
Senator Lacson. Well, the bottom line here is, Mr. President, had
Senator Dela Rosa, or Colonel Dela Rosa at that time been, accorded this
particular provision extending the reglementary period for terrorist, sana na-
On top of that, Mr. President, let me just inform the gentlelady that there
are safeguards that are put in place to prevent abuses under this particular
provision. Number one, the law enforcer taking custody shall notify in writing
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the judge nearest the place of arrest of the following facts: time, date, manner
naisip naming ilagay para mabawasan or mawala iyong possible abuses ng law
enforcement agents.
So, hindi puwede iyong itago-tago because they will be answerable. They
are also mandated to furnish with a written notice iyong anti-terrorism council,
out, then is it not correct to say that not only can our security forces arrest the
perpetrators in flagrante delicto but they can also use deadly force to preserve
Senator Lacson. Well, we should not wait for the destruction or the
haven for these terrorists. Ito pa po, Section 20, iyong penalty for failure to
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laws, iyong tinatawag na “arbitrary detention” pero nai-emphasize pa rin po
natin iyon.
Amnesty International.
perspective, Mr. President. Itong mga countries na ito, they are adequately
their areas. Sa atin, nagiging laboratory, nagiging training ground just like
Marwan and the other terrorists sa Marawi. Kaya po nangyayari iyon kasi mas
sa mga bansa na mas may mahahabang reglementary period, lalo na iyong mga
they are addressing the root causes of terrorism in a balanced way kasama ng
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effective law enforcement. So, hindi lamang heavily sa law enforcement, may
kasama po.
we do not have right now. And effective laws which, I know, is what we are all
seeking to.
we do not have right now, Mr. President. At the proper time, I will propose
Further, Mr. President, if our security forces are still in the process of
investigating a terrorist conspiracy, can they not build their case using the
the current HSA or applying for a good old-fashioned search warrant under the
Rules of Court?
Act by way of amending it, Mr. President, including all these provisions
because right now, there is only one conviction. Imagine, when did we pass the
Human Security Act? It is in 2007. We are now in 2020. So far, there is only
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one conviction and one difficulty which we suggested that we delete, iyong
predicate crimes. Ito iyong one of the handicaps. We have to prove first the
predicate crimes before we can even proceed to prosecute the terrorist for
violating the Human Security Act. That is why, we deemed it necessary to just
with the suspect to get anything useful from him or her, hindi po ba fishing
expedition na iyon?
agencies present, ang sabi nila ay kulang na kulang talaga iyong three days.
Ang hinihingi pa po nila ay 90 days na hindi nga ako pumayag dahil naalala ko
kayo. [Laughter]
kanina kung ano ba ang mala prohibita. Marami po kasi sa naging pag-uusap
natin ang naging sagot ay, “Let us always look at the intent.” Ano nga po ba
iyong mala prohibita? Ano po ba iyong mga offenses sa ilalim ng batas na ito na
hindi kailangan iyong intent? Ano iyong mala prohibita at ano naman iyong
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Senator Lacson. Iyong intent po is an indispensable element.
interpellation and thanking the good sponsor, ilan po sa mga punto na ito na
time sa period of amendments. Para din pong gawing mas malinaw ang mga
harm than good. At isang susubukan kong linawin ay itong tungkol sa mga
punto rito na may kinalaman sa mala prohibita which does not require intent.
Senator Lacson. Rest assured, Mr. President, that at the proper time, I
safeguards to protect human rights but not to the point na isa-sacrifice naman
Senator Hontiveros. Let us search for that balance, Mr. President, with
the help of the good sponsor, probably a difficult balance, pero tingin ko
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necessary talaga kung saan magtatagpo iyong human rights at iyong public
let us continue to deliberate on this measure but let us also keep these tenets
in mind. At the very least, let us make our laws as clear as possible and remove
we recognize Sen. Bong Revilla to ask questions to the good gentleman from
clarificatory questions?
President.
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Senator Revilla. Thank you, Mr. President.
Mr. President, the 2019 Global Terrorism Index (GTI) ranked the
Philippines ninth among the 163 countries in the world. Ayon po sa report na
Now, Mr. President, under the Human Security Act of 2007, the
crimes have been removed. May I know the reason for removing the predicate
crimes? Have we not made the definition of terrorism or terrorist act overbroad,
thereby making prosecution of the crime difficult? O mas pinadali natin ang
Based on our experience, after the Human Security Act was passed in
2007, there is only one conviction and one of the identified handicaps is the
presence of predicate crimes. We have had just only one conviction since that
time because we have to prove first the existence of the predicate crime or
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crimes identified before we can even proceed to prosecute under the Human
batas.
Senator Lacson. Iyon po talaga ang isang handicap kung bakit isa pa
siya dahil kailangang i-prove niya muna iyong predicate crime bago pa lamang
Senator Revilla. Mr. President, the Philippine Human Security Act was
P500,000 per day of detention. So, ang ginagawa po nila, maski nahuli nila
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iyong maliwanag na terorista, like in Marawi City, ang pina-file nila ay multiple
murder. Kung ano-anong mga violation na lamang ng Revised Penal Code kasi
talagang gamitin bilang weapon against terrorism ang Human Security Act of
probisyon. Mayroon din pong ganitong probisyon under the Human Security
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Senator Revilla. May I know, Mr. President, the purpose why we added
na alam naman nating lahat na talagang a band of terrorists, it took the RTC
terrorize. So, naisipan po natin itong probisyon na ito na aside from making the
order of proscription time-bound on the part of the RTC, iyong six months,
final order of proscription within six months kung mayroong sufficient ground
issued, ano po ba ang epekto nito? May law enforcement or military personnel
na iyong assets, iyong accounts, pagkatapos puwede ring arestuhin iyong mga
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mabalewala kung hindi mag-i-issue ng permanent within six months.
Halimbawa, after one month, nakita na kulang talaga iyong basehan para
lift iyon.
will our law enforcement or military personnel face charges from these
law enforcement kasi valid naman iyong grounds nila for arresting and mag-
issued by the RTC is valid for three years. Thereafter, the order shall be
reviewed. May I know the procedure for the review, Mr. President? Will the
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court motu proprio review it, or the law enforcement or the military personnel
iyong proscription.
Senator Lacson. The normal course of due process, Mr. President, will
Senator Revilla. Mr. President, may I just go back to the GTI report I
mentioned earlier?
Under the report, GTI noted the New People’s Army (NPA) as the terror
group responsible for over 36% of terror-related deaths and 39% of terror-
(BIFM).
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Senator Revilla. Mayroon din po akong ilang katanungan tungkol sa
DSWD, iyong Presidential Adviser for Peace, Reunification and Unity, at saka
Council.
Senator Lacson. Opo, Mr. President. Kaya puwede rin siya ang mag-
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Senator Revilla. So, puwede rin pong ilagay natin doon sa batas para
mas klaro?
Senator Lacson. Well, at the proper time, if the gentleman will introduce
measure.
Mabuhay po kayo.
recognized.
let us say, in an encounter between terrorist or what have you. There will be
volunteer who would provide first aid. Would that be considered material
support?
Senator Lacson. No, Mr. President. Basta humanitarian aid under the
auspices of the United Nations o kaya iyong Philippine National Red Cross.
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Senator Gordon. International Red Cross.
kalaban.
po.
Senator Lacson. And thank you for that input because hindi namin
naisama sa committee report and I am glad that the gentleman mentioned that
National Red Cross, humanitarian aid, hindi dapat masaklaw noong pagbibigay
Federation—or for that matter the Philippine Red Cross ay covered iyon.
it, I just wanted to clarify it further, all the questions we are asking, like
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Senator Drilon and all the others here--is to make sure that when the court
gets a case here, they can go back to the records para malinaw kung ano ang
So, having said that, iyong good Samaritan na doctor or first aider na
tinulungan iyong terrorist to save his life or to alleviate his suffering, he is not
Senator Gordon. There will be occasions, for an example, where the Red
Cross will go—and we do this—even to the NPA camps or even to the Abu
Sayyaf. We talked about that with them. I personally have done that. And we
tell them, “Hey, you are bound also by International Humanitarian Law and
Senator Gordon. Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate that very much.
Now, I just want to have some questions clarified especially on the matter
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Senator Gordon. And, therefore, para lamang maliwanagan ang mga
Senator Gordon. Para sa ganoon, kapag na-identify sila, pag hinuli sila
So, the process is, they apply for proscription which must be granted or
not granted by the court within 72 hours. Would that be correct, Mr.
President?
Senator Gordon. And the final, within six months, with hearing.
Senator Gordon. So, that is a very good proposition here because that
means that we are really being careful in the matter of whom to proscribe, that
Senator Lacson. Ang ayaw lamang po natin dito is iyong “one to sawa.”
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Senator Lacson. Kaya nilagyan natin ng period na within six months,
kailangang mag-decide na iyong court whether to grant or not iyong petition for
proscription.
And having said that, let me now go into another aspect of it. There are
such things as principal, accomplice, and accessory. Those who give material
support, iyon ang unang objective para malaman. Ngayon, kapag nagbigay ka
ng material support, how will we determine kung sino ang principal or kung
support iyan. Could the gentleman give us some examples, for the benefit of
an accomplice?
inducement.
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Senator Gordon. And the common denominator will be indispensable
hindi ka kasama.
Supposing there are terrorist organizations and they are going to conduct
iyong mga taong kakilala niya, “Pare, puwede ko bang hiramin iyang sasakyan
mo at ihatid mo ako doon sa lugar?” And without him knowing it or even on the
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way there, he gets to know it and he wants to get out but he can no longer get
In other words, he is unwilling pero nandiyan na, isinakay niya, naibigay niya
ang tulong. Pero baka nga hindi pa rin accomplice dahil under duress siya,
hindi ba?
So, ito, accomplice siya kapag tinawag ang tricycle, “Halika, kunin mo ito,
Senator Lacson. Kung alam niya iyong intent at willingly sumama siya
Senator Gordon. Naghatid siya pero ayaw niya, pero takot siya.
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Senator Gordon. Under duress na rin iyon. So, may lusot siya. Iyon
ang depensa.
ang principal distinction is, sa principal ay talagang the crime could not be
continuing process lalo na kung conspiracy iyan at naisama siya. When does
one become an accomplice? Parang mahirap maging hindi siya ang principal.
Senator Gordon. I am glad that the sponsor took away the provision of
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Senator Gordon. Tinanggal na natin iyan, hindi ba? Because talagang
makagugulo. Pero, on the other hand, kailangan din. Ang ating ginawa riyan
they are allowed how long now to detain somebody. Fifteen days or fourteen
days?
days…
that is clear and this makes the military or the police bolder. Wala na iyong
cloud of threat na puwede silang ma-fine ng malaki. But how do we protect the
citizen from gulang? Magulang iyong enforcer. In other words, hahabaan niya,
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iyong taong inaresto, pangalan ng tao, lahat ng circumstances ay nakasulat po
roon.
Senator Lacson. Pero malinaw po ang depensa riyan dahil may written
notice sa ATC. Kung wala pong maipakitang written notice, medyo malabo
iyong depensa.
Senator Gordon. When does the written notice come in? On the first
day he arrested him? Kailangan bang maibigay iyong notice on the first day of
arrest?
Senator Lacson. At saka iyong judge in the nearest location where the
arrest was conducted, kailangang ma-inform din. May mga penalty po iyan
sinasabi nga natin kanina, hindi sila maka-aresto dahil natatakot sila kaya ang
ginagawa nila, Revised Penal Code na lamang. So, ito ngayon, wala nang takot
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prevents himself from being accused of being arbitrary and capricious because
there is still room for arbitrariness and capriciousness and for abuse.
correct.
everything possible to make sure that in the performance of duty, he was able
citizen’s arrest in this case. Kaya lamang, ang in-expand natin ay iyong period.
In ordinary crimes, hindi puwede iyong nasa planning stage, hindi naman niya
ginawa, hindi naman siya nag-commit ng crime. Pero dahil iyong tinatawag
avoid for this phenomenon to become a new normal. Kaya gusto nating bigyan
by possible terrorists who are bound to do ill will with impunity and they do
not care.
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Now, let us put it this way—I am not necessarily agreeing with what I am
saying here—the penalty of life imprisonment or death might be too large and
Senator Gordon. So, how do we rerun that? Dapat, like what the
sponsor have said, first day pa lamang ay alam na natin na inaresto na niya.
charge of this gentleman should be able to make sure that he is not doing this
to intimidate others for bribery, hindi ba? Kasi kapag masyadong malaki ang
Senator Lacson. Mas malaki iyong bribery kasi mas malaki ang penalty.
Senator Gordon. Yes, Mr. President. Iyon ang isang concern. I can see
where the good sponsor is headed here and I support it, but I am just trying to
because it will be part of our record. And when the time comes, we will have
Senator Gordon. That is right, Mr. President. That is the whole object of
the exercise—to make sure that there is sufficient discussion here so that when
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Senator Gordon. So, really, the penalty of life imprisonment is severe
because a terrorist will exact either to follow or not to follow because they are
complied with. Before one can be detained for 14 days, it must be established
related to the terrorist act or complete the investigation; (2) further detention of
and (3) the investigation is being conducted properly and without delay.” So,
without these grounds, the law enforcement agent or agents cannot just
iyan.
Senator Gordon. Thank you very much for that, Mr. President.
Now, in the case of terrorism, these have been probably taken up in the
original security act--there will be such things as torture reduction, iyong mga
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Senator Lacson. That will be covered by another provision of the Revised
Penal Code or any anti-torture act--iyong mga naipasa nating batas, Mr.
President.
Senator Gordon. How does one prove kung wala namang testigo? Kayo-
Sila-sila lamang noong nahuli siya, and then na-torture siya; there are no
here.
proscription, the other side of the coin is to prevent and make sure that the law
enforcement agent will be true to his oath, true to his code, and what are the
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things that we have done to make sure that he is not able to do so, over and
Senator Gordon. And they are supposed to inform them also on the
first day.
then we can also include because, anyway, we are informing the council, the
judge, and we might as well include the Human Rights Commission doon sa
pag-notify.
see that the playing field is level. Tagilid tayo, and then iyong nagte-terrorize,
walang qualms iyan about killing and crashing a plane. Pero, on the other
hand, tayo we play by the rules. We have to tell the court on the first day. We
I think in the Human Security Act of the United States, ang ginagawa
nila, dinadala nila sa Uzbekistan. Dinadala nila sa ibang areas para hindi sila
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mako-cover niyan. Dinadala nila sa Guantanamo. Pero dito, walang
magdadala sa atin sa ibang lugar diyan, and we do not have the resources to
inadmissible.
Senator Gordon. Lahat ng kinuha nila, because they did that, erased.
Senator Gordon. One more question which I hope I can remember right
now on the matter of…. Well, it will come back to me later. I am just so darn
tired that we are not having had too much sleep. Maybe at some time, if the
Senator Lacson. Ako rin po, Mr. President, medyo pagod na rin. Puwede
since this morning and we have been doing a good law actually.
suspended, Mr. President. Anyway, Senator Drilon is still going to ask. And
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with the permission of the good sponsor, I would like to be able to ask some
questions should it come back to me, just a few questions just to make sure
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
the sponsor a few questions, but maybe we can take a break, Mr. President.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
Senate Bill No. 1083, with the permission, of course, of the sponsor.
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The President. I understand that they would want to suspend
consideration of the measure so that we can proceed to the next item in the
agenda.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
Senate Bill No. 1211 as reported out under Committee Report No. 25.
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, may we recognize Sen. Francis “Tol”
Drilon.
Senator Drilon. Thank you, Mr. President. Will the gentleman sponsor
Leader.
have a solution to our horrendous traffic problem in Metro Manila that the
Angkas issue is now on the forefront of our news. The effort to provide
because of the adage “necessity is the mother of all inventions” that there is an
that aspect that I see the effort of the good sponsor to pass this provision which
seeks to amend Section 17 of the Local Government Code or Republic Act No.
7160.
So, Mr. President, may I know what this provision seeks to address? We
were going through the sponsorship speech and it would appear that indeed it
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is the traffic issue which is being highlighted and so this amendment is being
proposed.
Our first question is, what can be done by the LGU under the proposed
amendment which they cannot do at present? In other words, are the LGUs
prohibited under the Local Government Code from engaging in the activity
mind the relevance of the provisions of the Local Government Code as applied
to the current situation which the good gentleman termed as “a requirement for
necessity.”
Mr. President, under the current Local Government Code, our LGUs,
while basically empowered to have their own measures to alleviate the traffic
of a legal mandate that would empower them, so to speak, to have their own
have their own rail-based transport systems within their jurisdiction. For
instance, I mind the situation of Makati, they want to have their own subway
system but the present governing laws, specifically Republic Act No. 7718 or
the BOT Law, and all other existing regulations would limit their capacity to
enter into such projects without going through the rigorous, burdensome
process of going to the NEDA, the ICC, and perhaps taking more years before a
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If I may add, Mr. President, since the enactment of the Local Government
Code, only one LGU was able to have its own project but it is not related to
Kalibo, Aklan, since the BOT and PPP regulations were enacted.
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, yes, so much was said in the sponsor’s
sponsorship speech. For the record, we just want to understand this bill.
When the sponsor says that the local governments are seeking to be
empowered to have their own measures since they are today shackled in
gentleman saying that the purpose of the bill is to unshackle the local
government units from these restrictive provisions and revise the present
So, that is the question, we want to be clarified. Because the reason for
that, Mr. President, is the way we read the measure as worded, it is not
into transportation projects and, therefore, to point out that they have this
power to do so because right now it would appear that only the city
governments would have this power. We are trying to understand what issue
calls as the “restrictions in the exercise of power,” the restrictions being the
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execution of these projects? That is what we want to be clarified of because at
this point, with the responses of the good sponsor, we are not clear as to what
quote on page 38, “It is the view of the committee that it is now crucial to
achieve by this bill? Do we empower the local government units without regard
into these projects and still be subjected to the regulatory framework that is
But if the good gentleman would look at the proposed measure, the word
“shall” was expressly mentioned. It stated, “All local government units ‘shall’
endeavor to provide…”
Shall and yet endeavor, Mr. President. In other words, what is required
of the local government is to plan out and attract investors in this area. That is
how I understand the provision, and I do not understand it to mean that the
local government unit is now obliged to come up with a transport system using
local government funds. We are trying to clarify what exactly is meant by this
proposal.
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Senator Tolentino. Yes, Mr. President.
the LGUs especially in answering the necessity, not just the current
government unit.
LGUs which would give them the legal cloak insofar as entering into
which right now is not present. Because based on experience, if an LGU, for
instance, Cebu, would want to have its own monorail system, even if we have a
a legal obstacle here. We are precisely in a twilight legal zone because while
they have autonomy, but in reality, they do not have because projects more
Senator Drilon. Just to interrupt, if the good sponsor does not mind,
just to bring home the point and we will understand what is the purpose here,
will the projects that will be undertaken by the local government units designed
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Senator Tolentino. Yes, Mr. President.
Senator Drilon. All right. To me, we should specify that if that is the
policy. That policy, I am sorry, but I do not read it in the present amendment. I
am not saying that I have objections to that but I just want to know that that is
the purpose.
sovereign guarantee.”
pointed out by the good sponsor, presently, if the project is over P200 million, it
will go to NEDA.
provincial sanggunian…
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Senator Drilon. I am talking about, say, a project costing P1 billion. Let
us say the Makati project which costs over a billion pesos. Firstly, the present
project in Makati would require NEDA approval and all that stuff?
Senator Drilon. Now, if we pass this law, that project will not need
NEDA approval?
planning agencies, and this would involve NEDA, for planning; DOTr, for
President. I will just rely on the expertise of the good sponsor who is a former
chairman of the MMDA to make sure that the intention of the law is clear. Para
specify.
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Right now, projects worth P2.5 billion and above would require approval
of the NEDA—first, to the ICC and then the NEDA board. Let me highlight this
because if a local government unit, for example, would seek foreign financing
without warranties of the national government, the first question that the
funder will ask is: Have you secured NEDA approval? And then the local
government will say, “No. Under Section 17 of the law, I do not need NEDA
approval.” If I were the counsel for the funder, I would not be comfortable with
that because the way I read Section 17(K), it does not imply that NEDA
what the intent is. I am not objecting to it but I am just pointing this out. Now,
during the budget hearings of NEDA, I conferred with Secretary Pernia, and
they do not have any objection because all of these, as in the words of the
President Pro Tempore, would catalyze a local Build, Build, Build. It will spur
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Senator Drilon. NEDA is amenable probably with the way it is worded
now because they may have the same reading as I have that this does not
frame of mind, Mr. President. And, therefore, it is best that, first, we clarify
what the intention is and what the policy of Congress is by stating clearly what
the law is. So, at that point, NEDA can react properly. If it is okay with them,
we want to hold them to their word and not have it vetoed by the President
because it is entirely possible that they will object to the revision of the
regulatory framework and recommend a veto from the President. That is why,
to me, it is very important that we state clearly what our intention is, and if we
can secure the concurrence of the Cabinet, particularly NEDA, then it would
government.
Now, still on the issue of the regulatory framework, would the transport
Necessity (CPCN)?
coming from the DOTr would still be needed, and under the umbrella,
probably the LTFRB would come. That is why, Mr. President, in the bill itself,
the consultation process has been highlighted with the national government
agencies concerned.
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My reading, Mr. President, correct me if I am wrong, is that a CPC would
virtue of this law to the LGUs. I would surmise that that is the general
system unlike, perhaps, the Tokyo metropolitan railways. So, in itself, the law
concerned.
a further study. But under the present system, a private sector can be
LGU. In that instance where the private sector operates and given the
statement of the good sponsor that the regulatory framework is being set
aside, the question is, would the operator of an LGU project in a joint venture
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Senator Drilon. No, I am just talking about the regulatory framework,
Mr. President
project, we must know if the DOTr has a pending plan or a future plan for this
route, for this neighborhood, for this highly densified area. So that, in itself,
Mr. President, will not do away with the regulatory functions of the national
government but it is different with the usual franchise given, for instance, to a
bus company because, here, we are talking of an LGU exercising its functions.
And with the huge investments involved, probably, it cannot be compared with
even Marina for that matter. So, I would suppose that this is a hybrid
is borne out of the necessity and then my speech spoke of a turbocharging the
LGUs concerned.
not clear as to whether or not we are repealing the powers of the national
already pointed out NEDA, the need of the requirement of NEDA approval when
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the project goes beyond a certain amount; the LTFRB, for the franchising; the
DOTr which has the mandate under that law; the MMDA; the LTO.
Now, what I am just saying, Mr. President, is, we should clarify the roles
of these national agencies vis-à-vis the powers that will be exercised by the
In order to hasten the approval of this act, may I propose that the good
the intent. And we are willing to terminate the period of interpellation for our
part so long as we can go back to the interpellation period for purposes of the
consideration the debate that we have for the past one hour.
Senator Tolentino. Yes, Mr. President. I would seem to agree with the
good Minority Leader that in terms of safety standards, the rail gauges, the
Bearing in mind that whatever projects the LGUs may propose or implement, it
would reflect on the national transport system. So, I agree with the good
gentleman, Mr. President, that this can still be amended to include the safety
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first from the appropriate government agency and, in this case, I reckon that to
required?
and that will be part of our amendments to have the permitting process as part
and with due regard to the safety standards. But I would also surmise that no
legitimate, even foreign railroad company with a background to speak of, would
put in place a defective or even a below standard transport system. But I agree
interpellation having already drawn from the good sponsor the answers that I
are submitted in order to clarify the intent of the law, on our part, we have no
problems with terminating the period of interpellations on this bill and await
the amendment which, we hope, will reflect the discussion this afternoon.
Just one more point, Mr. President. Will the law, once passed, also
require the local government unit to earmark local funds for this project?
powers of the local government unit but subject, of course, to existing fiscal
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restraints because there appears to be a 20% cap on the expenditures that a
President, we will provide the good Minority Leader the amendments as part of
his interpellation.
for the People Initiative for Local Governments (LGU P4). This circular expands
BOT Law. May we know if this will still apply once the bill becomes a law?
problem which we are experiencing right now, and which we will still
experience in the near future. Because I have stated this several times over
most of our growing regional urban centers and cities in the Visayas, of
course, not to mention Metro Manila, will always be confronting this problem of
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traffic congestion. And we really think, Mr. President, that it is not only
because of the transport demand which exceeds the transport supply that we
really have to prepare. And I think it behooves upon the Congress to prepare,
And I thank the good Minority Leader for allowing me to expand this by
Senator Drilon. All right. With that, Mr. President, we can terminate
this stage.
Senator Tolentino. Thank you, Mr. President. I thank the good Minority
Senator Zubiri. Thank you to the good gentlemen on the Floor, Mr.
President.
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Mr. President, no other member wishes to interpellate on the measure.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
No. 1211.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
ADJOURNMENT OF SESSION
Senator Zubiri. With that, Mr. President, I move that we adjourn the
session until three o'clock in the afternoon of Monday, January 27, 2020.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
27, 2020.
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ANNEX "5"
At 3:00 p.m., the Senate President, Hon. Vicente C. Sotto III, called the
session to order.
The President. The 46th session of the Senate in the First Regular
Session of the Eighteenth Congress is hereby called to order.
Let us stand for the opening prayer to be led by Sen. Juan Miguel “Migz”
F. Zubiri.
PRAYER
Senator Zubiri.
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world the lily of virtue nourished by the Eucharistic Blood of Jesus
Christ. Virgin most Powerful, pray for us!
Amen.
The President. The MMDA Chorale will lead us in the singing of the
Philippine national anthem. The Group will also render another song entitled
Bayan Ko.
NATIONAL ANTHEM
Everybody remained standing for the singing of the national anthem.
ROLL CALL
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Senator Ralph G. Recto.............................................. Present
Senator Ramon Bong Revilla Jr…………………………. Present
Senator Francis "Tol" N. Tolentino………………………. Present
Senator Joel Villanueva…………………………………….. Present
Senator Cynthia A. Villar............................................. Present
Senator Juan Miguel F. Zubiri ……………………………. Present
The President………………………………………………….. Present
presence of a quorum.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
Mr. President, we would just like to recognize some guests in the gallery.
Thank you.
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* Under detention
** Arrived after the roll call
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MANIFESTATION OF SENATOR PACQUIAO
faith. By virtue of Republic Act No. 11163, we take time to unite in professing
endeavor to be bearers of the good news throughout the world and allow the
wisdom of His Word fill our hearts with love, hope, and joy.
For the longest time, our nation has faltered by trying to live by bread
feeding our spirit and soul by witnessing the Living Truth in the way towards
growing in faith.
Today, let us pause and communicate with our God to express our
us strive towards unity. In Mark 3:24, the Holy Bible says, “If a kingdom is
divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.” Let these words of our Lord
resonate in our actions. With wisdom and courage, let us abandon our earthly
ways that divide us. In the midst of all the problems and trials that we are
facing, let us choose to live with courage and compassion, Mr. President.
Together, let us choose to fix our eyes on our God because apart from Him, we
are nothing.
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Before I end this manifestation, Mr. President, I would like to leave these
verses in Jeremiah 9:23 and 24, “This is what the Lord says: ‘Let not the wise
boast of their wisdom or the strong boast of their strength or the rich boast of
their riches, but let the one who boasts boast about this: that they have the
understanding to know me, that I am the Lord, who exercises kindness, justice
colleague who principally authored and sponsored the National Bible Day that
back to the word of God as Matthew 4:4 says: “Man shall not live by bread
alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.” And in John 15:5
God said, “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in Me and I in
you, you will bear much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing, apart from
Me, you can do nothing.” That is why I join, not only the distinguished
word of God which gives light, guidance, and direction for our everyday living.
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The President. All right. The Majority Leader is recognized.
THE JOURNAL
Mr. President, I move that we dispense with the reading of the Journal of
the 45th session, Wednesday, January 22, 2020, and consider it approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
of Business.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
REFERENCE OF BUSINESS
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APPROPRIATING FUNDS THEREFOR AND FOR OTHER
PURPOSES
RESOLUTIONS
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The Secretary. Proposed Senate Resolution No. 295, entitled
COMMUNICATIONS
Letters from the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas transmitting to the Senate copies
of the following certified and authenticated BSP issuances in
compliance with Section 15(a) of Republic Act No. 7653 (The New
Central Bank Act):
Circular Letter Nos. CL-2020-002, 003, 004, 005 and 006 dated 8 and
10 January 2020;
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The Secretary. Senate Bill No. 1294, entitled
RESOLUTIONS
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FORMULATE A SUSTAINABLE TAAL VOLCANO
RESETTLEMENT AND REHABILITATION PROGRAM
COMMUNICATIONS
The Secretary. Letter from the Office of the President of the Philippines
transmitting to the Senate two (2) original copies of Republic Act No. 11465,
entitled
The Secretary. Letter from the Office of the President of the Philippines
transmitting to the Senate two (2) original copies of Republic Act No. 11467,
entitled
AN ACT AMENDING SECTIONS 109, 141, 142, 143, 144, 147, 152,
263, 263-A, 265, AND 288-A, AND ADDING A NEW
SECTION 290-A TO REPUBLIC ACT NO. 8424, AS
AMENDED, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE NATIONAL
REVENUE CODE OF 1997, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES
which was signed by President Rodrigo Duterte, together with his line-veto
message in accordance with Article 6, Section 27(2) of the Constitution, which
provides that “the President shall have the power to veto any particular items
in an appropriation, revenue or tariff bill.”
COMMITTEE REPORT
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AN ACT ESTABLISHING THE PHILIPPINE ENERGY RESEARCH AND
POLICY INSTITUTE, DEFINING ITS OBJECTIVES, POWERS,
AND FUNCTIONS, PROVIDING FUNDS THEREFOR, AND
FOR OTHER PURPOSES
Majority Leader.
Mr. President, with the permission of the Body, I move that we resume
consideration of Senate Bill No. 1083 as reportd out under Committee Report
No. 9.
Act No. 9372, Otherwise Known as An Act to Secure the State and Protect our
Senator Tolentino.
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Senator Tolentino. With the permission of the good gentleman, Mr.
President.
sponsor if I may be allowed to recite a list of cases that would probably serve as
the fulcrum of my interpellation, Mr. President. These are cases which are
I would like to place on record the following cases that would probably be
of interest to the good sponsor and this honorable Body relative to the bill
under consideration, the Senate bill amending the Human Security Act, Mr.
President.
the Cuban air force shot down two unarmed US civilian aircraft over
nationals.
punitive damages.
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My second case, Mr. President, Flatow vs. Islamic Republic of Iran. On
April 9, 1995, a suicide bomber drove a van loaded with explosives into a bus
to the Gaza strip, killing seven Israeli soldiers and one US national, Alisa
Israel. A terrorist group, the Shaqaqi faction of Palestine Islamic Jihad, which
was funded by the government of Iran, claimed responsibility for the explosion.
On March 11, 1998, the family of Miss Flatow obtained a judgement in the US
court against Iran for US$247 million in compensatory and punitive damages.
My third case, Mr. President, Cicippio vs. Islamic Republic of Iran. Two
national who operates two private schools in Beirut were kidnapped in May
1985 in Lebanon by the Hezbollah, a group receiving material support from the
government of Iran. The three men were imprisoned in extreme conditions and
tortured until their release ranging from one and a half years to five years. On
August 27, 1998, Mr. President, the three US nationals, along with their
damages.
February 25, 1996, two US citizens, Matthew Eisenfeld and Sara Duker were
organization Hamas, which was funded by the government of Iran. On July 11,
2000, the families of the victims obtained a judgment against Iran for US$327
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Finally, one more case, Mr. President, Abu Khattala, the alleged
conspirator behind the 2014 attack in Benghazi, Libya which resulted in the
with all due respect, napuna ko po na parang nakaligtaan po natin iyong civil
damages. I support this measure. I think this is one of the vital pieces of
congratulate the good sponsor, Senator Lacson, for having authored this act
amending the Human Security Act of 2007. Napuna ko lamang, Mr. President,
except that, probably, the reason is we are a weak nation. Unlike the United
just thinking aloud, Mr. President, having in mind that we do not have the
capacity or the capability to implement or actually award the damages that are
naisama siguro. But the point of the gentleman is well-taken. We should really
include even damages or the civil liabilities of not only the terrorists but if it is
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disagree insofar as the weakness of our legal institution is concerned, recently,
the whole country witnessed the promulgation of the decision relative to the
example, for victim Napoleon Salaysay, the heirs were awarded civil indemnity
Mr. President, I would like to place this on record, even our good friend
Rep. Toto Mangudadatu was given the following amount for the death of Bai
P100,000.
Senator Lacson. We may, Mr. President, except that under Article 100.
Civil liability of a person guilty of felony, the judge can actually include in the
decision the award of damages to victims of crimes. So, it may still be applied
Revised Penal Code states that: “Every person criminally liable for a felony is
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Senator Tolentino. So, it would mean, Mr. President, na automatic na
iyon na kapag nag-file ng criminal case, the civil case is likewise instituted.
that in cases where it involves Article 33 of the Revised Penal Code which deals
during the period of amendments, to have this as part of the proposed law.
Senator Lacson. At the proper time, Mr. President, if the gentleman will
Senator Tolentino. Mr. President, the reason why I have this line of
questioning is that this is very basic that in criminal cases, we have to prove
evidence.
If I may ask the good sponsor, if in the event that a crime filed under this
proposed bill is dismissed, can the offended parties—the victims and the
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Senator Lacson. As the gentleman clearly stated, the threshold in the
decision-making of the judge are different. For criminal cases, it is guilt beyond
yes, the victims of crimes, even if the criminal aspect of the case has been
Senator Tolentino. Then again, Mr. President, I would want to have the
exact rationale of this law. Are we trying to protect the State because this is a
criminal case, or are we also attempting to protect the civilians, the victims of
the terroristic acts. So, we have now a venue for civil actions, Mr. President.
Senator Lacson. I would say that they are both important. But coming
interest, then the protection of the State should come first before the
President.
that the trend right now is to have the offending party, the terrorist
mention the case of Pan Am Flight 103, the Lockerbie bombing, which
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happened in Libya, but the plane fell somewhere in Scotland and the award of
Senator Lacson. Yes, Mr. President, although we may have to update the
isandaang piso; minsan singkuwenta pesos. Kung ganoon kalaki iyong damage
updating the amount, maybe as an amendment. I am not sure about this, Mr.
Please help me out because I am not a lawyer, Mr. President, if that can
anti-terrorism act.
deposit the current trend of the award of treble damages. Because I see in
Section 42 of the proposed law, there is a provision which allows the Anti-
Money Laundering Council to freeze and forfeit the funds, banks deposits,
placements, trust accounts, assets and property of whatever kind and nature
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What I am trying to point, Mr. President, is that-- I have been asking
ay i-allocate na lamang natin? We should earmark this for the victims under a
of the good sponsor is that, probably, we might not have enough funds to
award the victims. But here, we have under Section 42, I think, it is paragraph
the funds.
would allocate whatever is frozen to answer for the needs of the victims’
families, the victims of the explosions, not to mention the livelihood, the
scholarship, the education of the children of those who lost their lives?
Senator Lacson. Yes, Mr. President. But we should clarify this because
is the time, or if the Anti-Money Laundering Council, after freezing, and the
criminal aspect of the case proceeds, thereby convicting the respondents who
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Senator Tolentino. …of the good sponsor that a civil liability suit can
proceed independently of the criminal aspect. The civil liability will just have a
transpire that mauuna pa ho iyong civil case na matapos kaya puwede nang
mag-award si judge coming from the frozen assets. Puwede kaya iyon, Mr.
President?
Senator Tolentino. So, what would happen now, Mr. President, is that
we will have an amount that can be granted by the court even prior to the
similar amendment.
But going back again, Mr. President, to the venue which, I think, the
good Minority Leader has been trying to extrapolate from the good sponsor, if I
offense to the places and the LGU heads in those areas—perhaps in Lamitan,
Basilan, and plan to have a terrorist attack and, thereafter, meet again in
Zamboanga City to finalize the details, meeting perhaps some members of the
Jemaah Islamiyah, and then, probably executing the terrorist attack through a
Where exactly is the venue of the criminal case that should be filed by the
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prosecutor? Is it in Lamitan? Is it in Zamboanga City? Is it in Pagadian? Or is
it in Sulu?
Congress who just died, Rep. Edgar Mendoza. He was a resident of Batangas
and he went to visit some clients in Calamba City, probably, to collect some
legal fees, as far as the newspaper accounts would show, and then his body,
together with his driver and one security aid, was found burned in Tiaong,
Quezon. Reports would now show that the planning was done in Bilibid,
Muntinlupa.
Again, for purposes of venue, Mr. President, I do not know where the
Department of Justice will file the case. Is it in Muntinlupa where the planning
his soul—met the clients? Or will it be in Tiaong, Quezon where his body was
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President, in criminal cases, venue is jurisdictional. If a court does not have
President, any of the special courts in those areas that the gentleman
Senator Tolentino. I agree, Mr. President, and this buttresses the claim
of the good sponsor that this law can have an extraterritorial effect and that is,
probably, what I will try to figure out. If we are in agreement that the case can
be filed anywhere where the essential ingredients of the crime were committed,
then, probably, Mr. President, there is a need, with due respect, to reevaluate
and to revisit the plan to have a special court. Because in some instances, in
the case I mentioned, some witnesses would probably come out in Zamboanga
City, some evidence would be in Zamboanga City, and it is easier to get the
witnesses from Zamboanga City rather than in Basilan and Sulu. So, probably,
if the gentleman would agree, there is a need to revisit that provision of having
a special court. Because there are probably some nuances and details that can
be gotten from the place where the essential ingredient of the terroristic act
because the Supreme Court may create special courts in different areas. So,
Senator Tolentino. So, Mr. President, would the good sponsor agree
that perhaps we can place in one of the provisions here that this terroristic act
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or terrorist act can be declared as a transitory crime? Because, I have glanced
over several laws passed by the recent congresses relative to this, and if given a
Senator Tolentino. There was a law passed in 1995, Republic Act No.
8042, the “Migrant Workers and Overseas Filipinos Act of 1995.” It states that
a criminal action arising from illegal recruitment shall be filed not only in the
Regional Trial Court of the province or city where the offense was committed,
but it can also be filed where the offended party actually resides at the time of
the commission of the offense. Verily, Mr. President, the reason for this is
probably for the convenience of the offended party to file the case in her or his
siguro, Mr. President, if the good sponsor will agree, na kung saan mas marami
witnesses, because some witnesses maybe under threat in areas where they
are appearing. So, that is probably one of the reasons why special courts are
Terrorism Act.
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PREPARATORY ACTS PUNISHED UNDER THIS ACT SHALL BE TRIED IN
functioning judicial body even in places where terrorist plots are being hatched.
lawyers will go to that court; and the accused were all imprisoned in that area.
But, again, even with that special system, it took several years for that case to
Would the gentleman agree that even if we have special courts, if the
would still be hard for a competent judge to conclude the case, more so with
President. It states: “Persons charged under the provisions of this Act shall be
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So, that will take care of the concern of the gentleman, Mr. President.
Senator Tolentino. I thank the good sponsor for that clarification. But
the transitory nature of a terroristic act similar again to a very clear example—
In Batas Pambansa Blg. 22, the offended party has several options where
to file it. We can file it where the check was drawn; we can file it where the
check was issued; we can file it where the check was delivered; and, we can file
it where the check was dishonored. So, if we issue a check in Cavite City, that
can be filed in Cavite City; if it bounced in Batangas, we can file again a case in
Batangas.
And the same is the nature of an act of terrorism because I agree with
the good sponsor that terrorism, which is, the ability to project and instill fear
and terror, is not just located to a certain locality. It can be through the use of
social media which can be done in a split second nationwide. I think the
effects of a terroristic act will not just be felt in the place where the bombing
was committed. It will even be felt in far-flung areas or islands of this country.
Senator Tolentino. Again, if the good sponsor will agree with me that
the purpose of terrorism is to instill fear and make a political and ideological
statement.
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Having said that, Mr. President, I now go to the aspect of
extraterritoriality principle.
Alam po natin na dito talaga tayo mahihirapan. And this probably would
reach the Supreme Court at some point in time because the proposed law
of the Philippines, regardless of its stage of execution, the person can be held
liable.
Senator Lacson. Yes, Mr. President. There is one principle called aut
paragraphs (2-E) and (3-D); United Nations Security Council Resolution No.
1456 in 2003, paragraph (3); and United Nations Security Council Resolution
Nations, to support our contention that the principle of territoriality can apply.
Senator Tolentino. So, that would mean, Mr. President, let us say, if I
was hatched in Singapore. Even if the planning stage was done in Singapore,
the perpetrators, the conspirators can be held liable under this law, am I
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Senator Tolentino. Mr. President, to further aid this august Chamber
good sponsor, I would like to place on record a law likewise passed by this
Congress, although in a different manner, which probably would help the good
gentleman and the committee revise, refine, retune or retool the contents of the
proposed bill, it is Republic Act No. 9262. Republic Act No. 9262 is called the
consideration, but given the concurrence of the good sponsor that a terroristic
under that Republic Act No. 9262, there is a portion relative to psychological
violence.
Respondent”, G.R. No. 212448, dated January 11, 2018. The ponente is
Justice Tijam.
Ito po iyong nangyari: There was a couple residing in Pasig and the
certain Singaporean woman named Lisel Mok and produced photographs and
other acts in violation of the marriage between husband and wife. Because of
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this, Mr. President, the wife sued the husband. The husband said, “No, the
Having said that, Mr. President, are we in agreement that acts of terror
are forms of psychological violence? Because even if we are not part of the area
that was bombed, even if we are not a family member of that person whose
limbs were cut or who was beheaded, the psychological violence instilled in
society is more than enough to produce fear among the members of the
populace.
Senator Lacson. Mr. President, I may have a problem with that because
ang terrorist act should be direct, more at the public at large, and doon sa
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Senator Tolentino. Hindi po, Mr. President. Ang gusto ko lamang
mayor, Mr. President, that was during the height of Wakaoji case—bata pa po
enough that we are stating here: “It is declared a policy of the State to protect
inimical and dangerous to the national security of the country and to the
welfare of the people, and to make terrorism a crime against the Filipino
people, against humanity, and against the law of nations.” That is exactly the
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reason why we are applying the principle of territoriality because it is a crime
against humanity.
wherein the kidnapped victim is about to be beheaded and asking for the help
of the government, and even the President, not just the family, to agree to the
demands of the terrorists, would that be an act that would have an effect not
Senator Lacson. We have to refer back to the intent and purpose of the
justify.
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Senator Tolentino. Again, Mr. President, with due respect, I ask again
the question: Are we protecting, primarily, the State, or are we protecting the
“The purpose of such act by its nature and context, must be committed to, (1)
the circumstances bound by the intent and purpose of such act. Kung
cases when I first had the Floor—was that to strengthen our civil liability
puwedeng pumasok under terrorist acts, puwede ring hindi. Depende nga po
kung ano iyong masasaklaw roon sa kaniyang intent—in accordance with the
Senator Tolentino. One last point, Mr. President, before I yield the floor,
and it has something to do with how the court here, be it a special court or the
general regional trial court, would acquire jurisdiction over the person of an
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offender who is outside the territory of the Philippines. Because we all know
that jurisdiction over a person would only happen in two instances: upon his
Senator Lacson. Wala po. Kapag pumunta siya rito, mamalasin siya,
stated in the bill, Mr. President. For example, he hatched the plan to commit
Senator Tolentino. So, then again, Mr. President, it opens the wide
array of possibilities for a civil action to have a greater long arm reach.
somewhere in a part of this planet where they are doing business and where
strengthen the civil liability regime that will enable Philippine authorities, or
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even the offended party, to file a case against a foreign national, a foreign
award? Because we all know, Mr. President, even Osama bin Laden has a
the Middle East. And, for the record, several courts have already awarded
damages to the victims of the 911. So, is it possible that we also pursue that
line of judicial legal legislative trend of exerting a long arm outreach to enable
in a civil process?
Senator Tolentino. So, ang ibig sabihin, baka mas madali pa dahil a
can run after these people civilly, in accordance with the provision that we
Court, Rule 14, “Section 15. Extraterritorial service. — When the defendant
does not reside and is not found in the Philippines, and the action affects the
personal status of the plaintiff or relates to or the subject of which is, property
interest, actual or contingent xxx,” the court can summon the defendant either
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by publication in a newspaper of general circulation or by sending a copy of the
jurisdiction.
Senator Tolentino. Yes, Mr. President. So, what I am saying, and the
Pelaez sued me in the United States for some supply contract that I did not
Philippine National Police. She sued me. And I was invoking that the service of
summons should be coursed through a regional trial court here which will,
instead, issue the summons to me. But it did not happen Mr. President.
Senator Tolentino. One last point, Mr. President—I think the records
would show that I already mentioned this during the previous session.
Nakalulungkot po, Mr. President—and probably this is also a reason for the
which was entered into by 120 nations in November 1965, hindi po pumirma
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president ng Nissan. Nakakalungkot po, we are not a member of that Hague
Service Convention.
through the Department of Foreign Affairs, can have this untangled. Why are
matters such as civil, commercial, and even acts of terrorism are now of a
global nature?
Senator Lacson that I will be brief. But again, having said all of those things,
there is another way—civil regime—that can strengthen this law. There are
other existing measures that can be added up to buttress the provisions of this
proposed bill. And I truly support the good sponsor on this measure. I have
mentioned and I will repeat it again, this is one of the more vital legislative
Mr. President, I thank the good sponsor and I yield the Floor.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
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At 4:13 p.m., the session was resumed.
Bill No. 1083 tomorrow, I move that we suspend consideration of the same.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
Senator Zubiri. Before we take up the second item on the Agenda, Mr.
With the consent of the Body, Mr. President, after consulting with the
and Secondary Schools, from the Committee on Basic Education, Arts and
primary committee.
The Committee on Basic Education, Arts and Culture shall remain as the
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
SPECIAL ORDER
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, with the permission of the Body, I move
that we transfer from the Calendar for Ordinary Business to the Calendar for
Special Orders Committee Report No. 34 on Senate Bill No. 1296, entitled
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we consider Senate Bill No.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
permission of the Body, the Secretary will read only the title of the bill without
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Senate Bill No. 1296
[Insert]
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I ask that we recognize the sponsor, the
Committee of the Seventeenth Congress, I had the privilege of studying the best
the world. One element they had in common was the presence of academe-
Precourt Institute for Energy of Stanford University, the Solar Energy Research
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research and development, training and education, and policy development.
the backbone for innovation and progress in the energy sectors of their host
Hence, Mr. President, the bill I am sponsoring today—Senate Bill No. 1296
Research and Policy Institute (PERPI). PERPI will perform critical research and
policy development, and capacity building work to steer the Philippine energy
the Philippines, PERPI will serve as an independent body which will undertake
provide autonomous and objective policy output for the benefit of private and
with ensuring that the results of its energy research and policy development
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activities can be utilized to craft energy sector reforms for the benefit of the
empirical evidence;
policy studies;
development; and
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expert in energy policy and research development. Further guidance will be
academe and the private sector, from the fields of engineering, law, science,
account for energy research shall be established which will recognize and
accept grants, contributions, and donations for such purpose, while PERPI’s
pesos.
this very much needed piece of legislation for our country to achieve energy
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Plan of 2017 to 2022. This is very important because energy consumption
particular, access to clean energy is considered vital for modern living and
necessary element for all production sectors to function, even during crises and
calamities.
challenge as we continue to rely heavily on fossil fuels such as natural gas and
at roughly P0.20 per kilowatt or P10 per kilowatt. There is also much more to
institutionalized only in 2008 with the passage of Republic Act No. 9513 or the
However, the root of the matter is the scarcity of energy research and
policy programs in the country, especially that we are now in the era of rapidly
energy situation will not just require a single solution, but a multidisciplinary
approach that will cut across energy regulations and fiscal constraints.
With the passage of this bill, this humble representation believes that not
only the future of energy but the energy sector of the present will be further
whole country.
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The President. The Majority Leader is recognized.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
ADJOURNMENT OF SESSION
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is adjourned until three o'clock in the afternoon of Tuesday, January
28, 2020.
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ANNEX "6"
At 3:00 p.m., the Senate President, Hon. Vicente C. Sotto III, called the
session to order.
The President. The 47th session of the Senate in the First Regular
Session of the Eighteenth Congress is hereby called to order.
ROLL CALL
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The President. With 17 senators present, the Chair declares the
presence of a quorum.
THE JOURNAL
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we dispense with the reading
of the Journal of the 46th session, Monday, January 27, 2020, and consider it
approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
today.
Pangasinan.
We also have Gov. Santiago B. Cane Jr. from Agusan del Sur, together
with his mayors: Mayor Phoebe L. Corvera of San Luis, Mayor Leonida P.
These are my neigbors, Mr. President; we share the same boundary with this
The President. We welcome all our friends from Agusan del Sur to the
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we proceed to the Reference
of Business.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
REFERENCE OF BUSINESS
RESOLUTIONS
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ADDITIONAL REFERENCE OF BUSINESS
RESOLUTION
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for one minute to
confer with the interpellators of the measure.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, before we tackle the official business of
the day, we would like to recognize the presence of the students from the
Senate Bill No. 1083 as reported out under Committee Report No. 9.
is that we are in the period of interpellaions. May I ask that we recognize the
The President. The gentleman from Cavite and the gentleman from
Mindanao are recognized, Sen. Panfilo M. Lacson and Sen. Aquilino “Koko”
Pimentel III.
Senator Pimentel. Thank you, Mr. President. With the permission of the
honorable sponsor, this representation would just like to ask some clarificatory
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Senator Pimentel. Well, important measures, Mr. President, are really
Mr. President, I noticed that this is an act to amend an existing law, the
Human Security Act. And yet, I noticed that we amended the title from—
because if this measure becomes law it will now no longer be the Human
Security Act, it will now be the Anti-Terrorism Act. And then we also amended
the entire definition. Before, it was called terrorism in the existing law. Now, we
call this terrorist acts but the substance will be overhauled. Although the
Human Security Act, with the effect of actually repealing the Human Security
Act and enacting an entirely new law which we will now call the Anti-Terrorism
Act.
actually overhauling and effectively repealing the Human Security Act, Mr.
existing provisions under the Human Security Act and rename the bill, once it
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Senator Lacson. That is correct, Mr. President. But we will insert the
Senator Pimentel. Yes, I get it. So, what we will do is, we will write the
new concepts and then we will insert the uncontested sections of the existing
found out during committee hearings that “human security” is too broad a
concept. Masyadong broad po ito, ang laki ng nako-cover. And we want to focus
on terrorism. So, that is one of the reasons why we decided to rename the title
Senator Pimentel. All right. So, if the purpose of the measure now is to
focus on fighting terrorism, all the more that we have to carefully, properly,
and clearly define that very specific purpose of the law, which is to fight
terrorism.
oversight committee, as I understand. Was it ever convened, and what were the
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Senator Lacson. Yes, there is an oversight committee but it has never
information or data from the joint oversight committee on how the law has
been implemented, the achievements of the existing law, and the difficulties in
Congress, and the Anti-Terrorism Council will regularly review and find out the
Senator Pimentel. Yes, but I want to refer to the existing act. Because
right now, we have this law which is called the Human Security Act, and we
are overhauling it--completely changing its face, its character, and its focus.
So, there must be a reason why we are doing this. What has been the feedback
about the implementation of the Human Security Act? Has it been a dead letter
law?
Council, Mr. President. But we also endeavored to study the different anti-
heard in the previous interpellation that there are more than 109 definitions of
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the concept of terrorism, so I am assuming that these are legal definitions. So,
there are at least 109 different laws maybe in 109 different jurisdictions.
President.
that when the council looked at the trend worldwide, they saw that the trend
elements: iyong acts, intent, at saka iyong safeguards. Doon na lamang tayo
categories also present in the anti-terrorism laws of the countries which the
council cites.
Senator Pimentel. But why cannot we live with the current Human
Senator Lacson. Very wrong, Mr. President. That is the reason why
there is only one conviction so far after so many years because we passed the
Human Security Act in 2007. It is now 2020 and so far, there is only one
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conviction. We also invited as one of our resource persons the judge himself
who rendered that guilty verdict. Ang sabi niya, napakahirap talaga because of
the predicate crimes. And besides, the law enforcement agencies themselves
refused to file violations or to file cases against persons for violation of the
Human Security Act because there is a sword of Damocles hanging over their
heads. Because if the respondents are acquitted, then they are mandated
under the existing law to pay a fine of P500,000 per day. So, sa halip na mag-
multiple murder or whatever other offenses covered by the Revised Penal Code.
organization?
Senator Lacson. It is the Abu Sayyaf, Mr. President. And it took them
Senator Pimentel. But on the other side of the coin, Mr. President,
Senator Lacson. I do not have the records; no data, Mr. President. But
I assume that for every apprehension or every arrest, or arrests made by law
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Senator Pimentel. Among the law enforcers?
Senator Lacson. Yes, Mr. President. Because they refuse to file under
this act and our colleague here who just retired from the PNP will attest to that.
Senator Pimentel. So, maybe the Human Security Act was only
Council, mayroong mga cases na na-dismiss. And now, those arrested are
are going to delete the sections providing for this P500,000 fine.
the law enforcer. Iyon lamang sa arbitrary detention. At saka tinaasan natin
safeguards ang na-retain but we are not including anymore the P500,000 fine.
basis.
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Senator Pimentel. Is there any mechanism to compensate that person
for lost income, the suffering, the moral damages during the…
He will have to base his cause of action from the Civil Code or some other…
remember correctly, there is a ceiling. I think the total amount that can be
given is P10,000.
For as long as we can make that clear that although the new law deletes
the section providing for an amount of damages per day, it does not mean that
recourse to claim for damages. He can still claim for damages, if we can make
not P500,000? Baka maging arbitrary na naman po, Mr. President. Anyway,
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Senator Pimentel. We will take a look into that other law, Mr. President,
should it be sufficient.
from public office kung public officer iyong involved, Mr. President.
Senator Pimentel. But that is the deterrent from the point of view of the
of the abuse.
Senator Lacson. At the proper time, let us talk about it, Mr. President.
amends Section 2 of the existing law, and deletes the last two paragraphs of
Declaration of Policy?
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Senator Pimentel. Iyong third paragraph, “the State recognizes that the
Why are we deleting them if they are not doing any damage, why can we
President.
destroy the new intent and new emphasis or focus of the measure?
Senator Pimentel. So, at least, when the time comes, maybe the motion
is not to…
of the provisions, nandoon naman lahat iyong human rights safeguards, Mr.
President.
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Senator Pimentel. In the definition of terms, Mr. President, have we
addressed the concern raised by the Minority Leader about foreign terrorist?
President.
terrorist act in the Philippines or has committed terrorist acts abroad, once he
comes back to the Philippines, may be covered under this Act, Mr. President.
President.
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Senator Lacson. Well, a Filipino who has become a resident abroad may
is why maybe during the amendment, if we can clarify what a foreign terrorist
is.
And may we know, Mr. President, where we got this? This is a new
Senator Pimentel. Did we get this from any model law that we
examined?
countries.
2178. This was adopted in 2014. It says, “(c)alls upon all member States in
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fighters, and developing and implementing prosecution, rehabilitation, and
State other than their State of residence or nationality for the purpose of the
armed conflict and resolving to address this threat.” Iyon po iyong definition
doon sa Resolution.
that “that person who is not a Filipino,” et cetera, et cetera, makes him a
Resolution that I stated earlier, Mr. President. And clearly, it stated here, iyon,
nag-travel sa isang State other than their states of residence or nationality for
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Senator Pimentel. And then I noticed that in the definition of “foreign
Senator Lacson. I think the operative phrase here is “other than their
“foreign terrorists.”
And then, the definition under letter (D), Mr. President, “INCITING TO
OF TERMS, letter (D). Does the effort have to be credible or convincing for it to
Senator Pimentel. Yes, Mr. President, page 3, letter (D). If a person, let
us say, goads another individual to commit any of the crimes punishable under
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Senator Pimentel. But do we need to assess whether the person is
determining if he… Because being convincing would mean that he was able to
convince. Medyo palayo na po tayo siguro. We are always bound by the intent
and purpose of that individual in committing that particular act, para hindi po
tayo maligaw, Mr. President. Kasi kapag hindi naman pumapasok doon sa
persuading another individual, hindi po papasok iyon dito. But as long as the
hindi.
look at the intent and purpose of the perpetrator, of the accused, Mr. President.
subjective, is it not looking at the intent and purpose also subjective because
those two things reside in the mind of the perpetrator? How can we penetrate
enumerating the acts because we have already removed the predicate crimes.
For a better definition, in-specify na po natin dito from letters (a) to (e). Pero
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mayroon po ritong succeeding paragraph: “WHEN THE PURPOSE OF SUCH
nature of what was done and then the effect, the context, the implication, iyon
po ba iyon?
Senator Lacson. Kasi sa Revised Penal Code, nandiyan din iyong Art.
118, Inciting to war or giving motives for reprisals; Art. 138, Inciting a rebellion
or insurrection; and Art. 142, Inciting to sedition. Ito po in-specify na natin iyong
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“CREATE A PUBLIC EMERGENCY” iyong pangatlo; and then “UNDERMINE
PUBLIC SAFETY” iyong pang-apat. Iyon po ba iyon? Basta anyone of these four,
kapag present siya, then that is your purpose. And then we look at your acts,
the act, “BY ITS NATURE AND CONTEXT, IS TO xxx UNDERMINE PUBLIC
SAFETY”, and then all of the acts enumerated before that paragraph are
hindi po ba catch-all na iyon? Whatever you do, you undermine public safety,
Senator Lacson. Well, iyon ang consequence, iyon ang resulting factor.
Pero kapag tiningnan natin sa purpose of such act, any of those acts—nandiyan
GOVERNMENT”…
Senator Pimentel. Yes, Mr. President. But the act must not fulfill all the
four purposes. Any one of the four purposes is enough, tama po ba iyon?
Senator Pimentel. Kaya nga po. So, but all of the acts before that
paragraph can be said to undermine public safety. So, pasok na parati. If there
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Senator Lacson. Hindi po all the acts, any of the acts, Mr. President.
A PERSONS’ LIFE”, that undermines public safety. And then letter (B),
safety.
can skip the three other purposes. If the purpose of undermining public safety
can be derived from the context, then terrorism has occurred. Kasi not all
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Senator Pimentel. Yes, Mr. President, but the acts enumerated before
that paragraph always involve public safety. So, in the context, we can always
is that one?
purposes. If the sponsor is willing to revisit because this is the heart and soul
will stay with the Human Security Act. But this is the heart and soul of the
new measure, and this is a penal law. We have to be precise and very clear
after mentioning the penalty for committing a terrorist act, there is a proviso
that the definition of terrorist acts shall not cover legitimate exercises of rights
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Senator Lacson. That is correct, Mr. President.
strike, and the laborers ay nagkaroon ng violence, hindi sila mako-cover dito.
dissent. Kung iko-cover pa rin natin sila, medyo lalong magiging wayward.
talaga sila covered. Pero nag-aalala lamang ako na immediately after defining
terrorist acts, we have to clarify that the exercise of fundamental rights will not
Senator Lacson. For clarity and for emphasis, Mr. President, para
lamang malinaw, this is one of the safeguards. Kasi if we do not include that
proviso, I am sure the gentleman will be interpellating along that line. Bakit
an attack?
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Senator Pimentel. Attacks, manufacture or possession of weapons, et
cetera.
properties or loss of lives, hindi po mako-cover iyon, and that is the reason why
President.
nag-result sa violence, then they should not be covered under the definition of
a terrorist act because, again, babalik na naman tayo sa intent and purpose.
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Senator Pimentel. Hindi po. Because paragraph (C) mentions
Maybe we can take a second look because if we will read paragraph (E) with
sa terrorism.
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Senator Lacson. That is where the gentleman is coming from, Mr.
President.
Security Act wala namang wrongfully sigurong na-detain. Ayaw naman natin
na this will now be the black mark or record of this new measure na marami
President.
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Senator Lacson. Pero na-qualify na natin ito, Mr. President, attacks that
cause death or serious bodily injury to a person; attacks that cause extensive
forth.
we were also divided. Some said that an attack is clear but for me, I think, I
enhance, or make this law more applicable and effective, Mr. President.
Section 4? Importante rin po iyon kasi one purpose is to intimidate or force the
jurisdiction?
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Senator Pimentel. And then SECTION 45 mentions extraordinary
rendition.
Senator Lacson. Mr. President, any term or any phrase that may be
ba ang practice ng ibang bansa? Wala naman po yata tayong ganiyan. Is the
assistance treaty with the requesting State, Mr. President. Because in our
mutual legal assistance treaties, one common provision or feature there is, “A
to testify in a case where they need that person.” And then, ibabalik din po
siya sa atin.
interrogated in another country with less rigorous regulations for the humane
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treatment of prisoners. Iyon po ang understanding ko kaya nilagyan natin ng
“Ban.”
exception. Ang point ko, Mr. President, sa mutual legal assistance treaties,
extraordinary rendition.
(E) on page 3…
(E), there is this phrase “EXPERT ADVICE”, kasi material support iyon, hindi
ba, which is, if a person extends material support to a terrorist, that person is
punished also.
of terrorism.
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Senator Pimentel. Because mayroon kasi sa dulo, Mr. President,
President.
terrorist act occurs because we are considering the tremendous impact on the
prove this. The charge can easily be made and it might be a word versus word
scenario.
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testimonial, as long as there are pieces of evidence that are supportive of one
Senator Lacson. Yes, it is eight years. Kung ako ang masusunod, Mr.
dockets sa proposal kasi ang dali pong mag-charge, mahirap i-prove pero
President, so…
Senator Lacson. Hindi naman po ito novel. Sa RPC, mayroon din tayong
Senator Pimentel. For those chosen, yes. For those chosen crimes, we
punish proposal and then conspiracy. And terrorism is at that level as grave as
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Senator Lacson. By its definition, even under the Revised Penal Code,
proposing to commit a terrorist act. Then iyong inciting, ang audience dito ay
general public.
danger of such act being actually committed. So, iyon ang sinasabi ko kanina,
iyong credibility of the person. So, ito, we will only be charged of inciting if the
ba iyon?
requirement that the one inciting to commit a terrorist act should be able to
COMMITTED”, hindi ba iyon ang ibig sabihin? “SUCH ACTS” ang ibig sabihin
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Senator Pimentel. So, incorporated into inciting to commit terrorist acts
is the credibility of the person inciting because there is now a danger of such
terrorist acts being actually committed, which is not in the earlier section on
Senator Lacson. In this case, Mr. President, I think the “clear and
present danger rule” should apply, and we have jurisprudence in this regard.
can revisit that. Because if that is not the intention, but it is there, we better
engaging in terrorist acts. Mayroon po iyan. Kasi either the person is recruited
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acts.” How will we know that an organization is organized for the purpose of
in terrorist acts. Paano kaya ma-prove iyon, Mr. President? Baka masyadong
mahirap.
because iyong proscription, although ni-limit na natin sa six months, but there
proscribed or judicially proscribed. So, we included that for that reason, Mr.
President.
That is the reason why we included that. Function na ng evidence iyan, Mr.
President. Not necessarily at the level of the court, but it is a matter of evidence
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Senator Pimentel. Because they can always allege that “this group has
been organized for the purpose of engaging in terrorist acts. You are recruiting
someone to join that group. We will charge you with recruitment.” Ultimately,
they may be acquitted, but then, in the meantime, may kaso. My concern is,
for the purpose of engaging in terrorist acts, do we not already have an existing
conspiracy na siya papasok? Kasi another crime na naman. May crime kasi na
President.
po iyon?
organization.
Senator Lacson. No, Mr. President. Conspiracy may involve at least two
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is already proscribed or not, then they may be committing a crime. But, again,
lamang sa fiscal, “Why did you not have this organization proscribed if you
already know that the organization was organized for the purpose of engaging
the gentleman?
charge somebody for recruiting a person into an organization and the allegation
naman iyan sa articles nila, definitely. So, iyong proscribed, okey na iyon, nag-
this one...
ground. Ultimately, they may be acquitted, but the point is mayroong kaso
because the allegation is that their group is organized for terrorist activities.
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Senator Pimentel. Yes, Mr. President.
Senator Pimentel. But the logical subsequent acts of the DOJ must be
trial, idedepensa na kaagad noong defense attorney nila. Then, what steps
yourselves are in doubt of whether or not this organization was organized for
terroristic activities.”
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Senator Pimentel. So, huli na lahat—proposal, inciting, conspiracy,
concept of terrorism, and make all acts connected with terrorism punishable in
the Philippines in solidarity with the rest of the world. I think that is what is
penalize abuse of the law enforcer, for as long as the abuse cannot be proven,
the law enforcer may not be punished and yet the aggrieved person spent x
country spent a thousand days in jail without any charges. Siguro, presumably,
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sa anti-terrorism law nila iyon. What is the longest possible detention period of
et cetera.
Senator Pimentel. So, at least, hindi natin kinopya iyong mga draconian
working days?
extend it to 14 days?
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Senator Pimentel. Kung sa Christmas period ito, mahaba iyong 14
agencies, those who acted, ano ba iyong reasonable time for them to be able to
with iyong 14 days should be enough although some of them were suggesting
Senator Pimentel. Basta klaro po, Mr. President, na hindi ibig sabihin
noon…
Senator Pimentel. Sundin pa rin iyong nasa Revised Penal Code na since
Senator Lacson. Ito po iyong mga grounds for the 14-working day period
Mr. President.
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Senator Pimentel. I noticed the word “further.” So, ang ibig sabihin, the
further detention will only extend up to a maximum of 14 days. So, what is the
Senator Lacson. Thirty-six hours, Mr. President. Iyon ang nasa Revised
Penal Code.
taking custody shall notify in writing the judge nearest the place of arrest. Ito
structure of the measure. Talagang walang lusot, talagang lahat. And then,
Senator Pimentel. Not only that, but the level of criminal participation,
example, found in Section 8, page 12 of the report, since we have also another
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Are the concepts overlapping? Because an accomplice is “someone who, by
act.” That is the Revised Penal Code’s definition. We just applied it to the
terrorist acts.
Code.
So, did the accomplice not, through simultaneous acts, facilitate the
imprisonment.
maximum penalty. Ang accomplice ay 17 years, four months, and one day to
Senator Pimentel. So, iyon po iyon. So, since we are covering all
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Senator Lacson. Yes, Mr. President.
Senator Lacson. That is correct, Mr. President, kasi part of the planning.
Senator Pimentel. All right. Because I have the same problem pagdating
the crime or the effects or instruments thereof. Ang sabi ay accessory ko siya.
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Senator Lacson. Mr. President, let us read again “SEC. 5, PLANNING,
“OR.”
terrorist act.
Principal siya roon--life iyon. But ang accessory who does it by concealing the
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Senator Lacson. Before, yes--to facilitate the commission of a terrorist
act.
ano…
example, hindi naman siya kasama sa planning; hindi naman siya ang nag-
facilitate; na-commit nga iyong terrorist act, nilapitan siya ng terrorist, sinabi
sa kanya, “Pakitago mo nga itong explosives kasi baka madisgrasya ako rito,”
previous pa. Ang accomplice kasi yata is by previous or simultaneous act, so,
President, that the accomplice may be mixed with the principals in Section 5.
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Senator Lacson. Mr. President, I am very appreciative of the effort of the
good gentleman because we are also aiming at a near perfect if not a perfect
legislation and the sponsor really appreciates the intervention of the good
paragraph for accessory found in the Revised Penal Code na although he did all
of these things, except profiting from the crime, if he is a close relative of the
criminal, he cannot be an accessory. Dinilete (delete) natin, so, does that not
escape of the principal which is--if I remember correctly, in the Revised Penal
Here, he will be an accessory for terrorism. Kasi dinilete (delete) natin, Mr.
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Senator Pimentel. Are we not going against human nature, Mr.
President?
Senator Lacson. The gentleman can say that, Mr. President, but this is
niya after. But profiting, siyempre punishable talaga iyon. But, of course, the
human nature or instinct to help their close relative, are we going against that?
And then we will now be charging a lot more people for being accessory to
crime is a crime against person or persons, but we are talking here of a crime
against humanity. So, I would like to think that this is a special case. And to
really close relative. Iyan na iyong rule. Is there any other crime where we also
changed the rule on accessory? Only for this one, hindi ba?
Senator Pimentel. Kaya nga, this is a new feature of the measure. So,
maybe…
Senator Lacson. We can discuss this further, Mr. President. I just asked
wala. So, this is being introduced only under this proposed measure.
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Senator Pimentel. For the first time, yes.
Senator Pimentel. So, Mr. President, I would like to thank the good
Senator Lacson. And I thank the good gentleman more, Mr. President. I
Senator Lacson. I am still open, Mr. President. Anything that will really
make this measure, as I have said, if not perfect, near perfect, then I am all for
it.
Senator Pimentel. Ako naman, I am only after a workable law where the
Senator Pimentel. Thank you, Mr. President; thank you, good sponsor.
Oro.
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Senator Zubiri. Thank you, Mr. President.
Gordon and a few others. But we can allow them some more time to study. We
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
of Senate Bill No. 1240, the second item in our agenda, Senator Pimentel, will
particular provisions that we have discussed together with the Minority Leader.
Mr. President, there are no other items to take up. We would just like to
remind our colleagues on who will interpellate on Senate Bill No. 1083
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tomorrow—Senator Gordon, Senator Pangilinan, and the Minority Leader who
ADJOURNMENT OF SESSION
Mr. President, I move that we adjourn the session until three o’clock in
the afternoon of Wednesday, January 29, 2020.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is adjourned until three o’clock in the afternoon of Wednesday,
January 29, 2020.
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ANNEX "7"
At 3:00 p.m., the Senate President, Hon. Vicente C. Sotto III, called the
session to order.
The President. The 49th session of the Senate in the First Regular
Session of the Eighteenth Congress is hereby called to order.
Let us all stand for the opening prayer to be led by Sen. Pia S. Cayetano.
PRAYER
Senator Cayetano. Let us all put ourselves in the presence of the Lord.
Heavenly Father,
Amid the perils that hound the world today, we ask for Your
continues protection. We remember Your Holy Words from Isaiah
41:10, “So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I
am your God. I will strengthen you and help you, I will uphold you
with my righteous right hand.”
Amen.
Please remain standing for the singing of the national anthem. The
Senate Choir will lead us in the singing of the national anthem, and then the
group will also render a song entitled Ako ay Pilipino.
NATIONAL ANTHEM
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Everybody remained standing for the singing of the national anthem.
ROLL CALL
*Under detention
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MANIFESTATION OF SENATOR ZUBIRI
(On the Implementation of Stricter Protocols on Visitations Relative to
Coronavirus Outbreak)
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, just for the information of our colleagues
who were not in the meeting earlier at 1:30 this afternoon, with the permission
of the Senate President, we would just like to inform the Body and all the staff,
visitations due to the outbreak of the coronavirus all over the world with the
If there are questions, of course, from our colleagues who were not able
to attend the meeting, they can approach either myself or the Senate President
Representatives, headed by Speaker Alan Cayetano, and the latter said that
It is not just one house of the Legislative body but both Houses to make
sure that we do not add to the spreading of the disease in our country.
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The President. Yes. This is what we call “precautionary measures.”
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUEST
THE JOURNAL
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, with the permission of the Body, I move
that we dispense with the reading of the Journal of the 48th session,
Wednesday, January 29, 2020, and consider the same as approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
REFERENCE OF BUSINESS
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AN ACT INSTITUTIONALIZING GOVERNMENT SUPPORT TO
GIFTED AND TALENTED STUDENTS, APPROPRIATING
FUNDS THEREFOR AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES
RESOLUTIONS
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The Secretary. Proposed Senate Resolution No. 305, entitled
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The President. Referred to the Committee on Sustainable Development
Goals, Innovation and Futures Thinking
COMMUNICATION
The Secretary. Letter from the Office of the President of the Philippines
transmitting to the Senate two (2) original copies of R.A. No. 11468, entitled:
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AN ACT AMENDING SECTION 9 OF PRESIDENTIAL DECREE
NO. 651, ENTITLED “REQUIRING THE REGISTRATION OF
BIRTHS AND DEATHS IN THE PHILIPPINES WHICH
OCCURRED FROM JANUARY 1, 1974 AND THEREAFTER”
RESOLUTION
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WOULD NOT POSE HEALTH RISKS AND FACILITATE THE
PROLIFERATION OF SEX TRAFFICKING AND
PROSTITUTION IN THE COUNTRY
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUEST
We also have with us in the gallery, Mr. President, Gov. Miguel Luis
Villafuerte of Camarines Sur. He is here with us today.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, with the permission of the Body, I move
that we resume consideration of Senate Bill No. 1083 as reported out under
Committee Report No. 9.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none,
resumption of consideration of Senate Bill No. 1083 is now in order.
The President. For the nth time, Sen. Panfilo M. Lacson is recognized,
Franklin M. Drilon.
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Senator Lacson. Thank you, Mr. President.
As long as Senator Lapid has not interpellated yet, all interpellations are
welcome. [Laughter]
With the permission of the Chamber and with the consent of Senator
Anything that will improve the final version of this measure, definitely, we will
I would just like to place of record that maybe we can finish today given
guarantee that the interpellation will finish because in the list is Senator
Gordon. [Laughter]
definition of terrorism.
Mr. President, the acts being punished here must have legal precision
Therefore, we must be very clear of what acts are being punished. As I said, we
must have legal precision and certainty in the definition of terrorism which we
The issue, therefore, is, when will one be charged with violation of the
Anti-Terror Act, when will he be charged with rebellion, when is it coup d'état,
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when is it sedition? And the reason for that is, in our statute books right now,
there are acts which can qualify under any of these four laws. We take note
that terrorism itself in the definition internationally in many fora is that the
main objective of terrorism is to sow fear and spread violence. But the bill that
the fact that the purpose of the terror acts would be qualified through their
public safety.
We are reading this, Mr. President, because the reality is, when a fiscal is
judge what information will be filed in court, especially, that the elements of
terrorism, for example, coup d'état, rebellion, sedition, would have similar
elements.
So, the question in general that we have, Mr. President, is, how does one
distinguish and how does a fiscal decide whether the act is punishable, let us
say, under rebellion, sedition, coup d’etat, or anti-terrorism? What are the
distinguishing factors?
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To further clarify, aside from the definition as contained in Section 4 of
Supreme Court only on July 4, 2017. This is Lagman vs. Medialdea. It says
that, I am quoting from the decision, “In determining what crime was
political, such as for the purpose of severing the allegiance of Mindanao to the
on the other hand, the primary objective is to sow and create a condition of
widespread and extraordinary fear and panic among the populace in order to
terrorism. Here, we have already explained and ruled that the President did not
err in believing that what is going on in Marawi City is one contemplated under
Senator Drilon. Yes, Mr. President. Thank you for that citation. But let
me read into the Record, the definition of rebellion under Art. 134 of the
committed by rising publicly and taking arms against the Government for the
purpose of removing from the allegiance to said Government or its laws, the
territory of the Republic of the Philippines or any part thereof, of any body of
land, naval or other armed forces, or depriving the Chief Executive or the
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This is exactly what also the act of terrorism would have as a purpose
We find the definition broad enough to include rebellion, and, that is, I
guess, where our difficulty is. Because the reality is, the fiscal would have to
judge what crime or what information to file. And we do hope that we can
spread into the Record the difference because this is what the fiscal will be
phrase under the second paragraph, after enumerating the acts that would
Lagman vs. Medialdea: “Besides, there is nothing in Art. 134 of the RPC and
RA 9372 which states that rebellion and terrorism are mutuality exclusive of
each other or that they cannot coexist together. RA 9372 does not expressly or
impliedly repeal Art. 134 of the RPC. And while rebellion is one of the predicate
crimes of terrorism, one cannot absorb the other as they have different
elements.” Mr. President. That is quoting again from Lagman vs. Medialdea.
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Further, Mr. President, under the Revised Penal Code, the elements of
rebellion are as follows: “(1) That there be (a) public uprising, and (b) taking
(2) That the purpose of the uprising or movement is either: (a) to remove
from the allegiance to said government or its laws: (1) the territory of the
Philippines or any part thereof, or (2) any body of land, naval, or other armed
general purpose which would qualify an act as an act of terrorism and what is
that? An act of terrorism is done for the purpose of forcing or inducing the
are raising this only for the guidance of those who will implement this law, Mr.
President.
That is an element present in the crime of rebellion that is not present in the
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Senator Lacson. That is correct, Mr. President. So, mayroon pong
delineation.
masasaklaw ng terrorism.
Mr. President. Kasi malinaw naman doon sa rebellion under Article 134 iyong
public uprising. In the case of this proposed measure, hindi po kailangan iyong
law and the sponsor is the prosecutor, Mr. President, which crime will the
sponsor charge those who staged the Marawi siege? Is it rising publicly,
prosecutor, Mr. President. Assuming that we have passed this measure, kung
then the prosecutor may file for violation of Anti-Terrorism Law. But if the
nature and context, by which the crime was committed, would not constitute
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violation of this act, as in the case of Marawi siege, then the case that was filed
Senator Drilon. Yes, Mr. President. In fact, what took place in the
Marawi siege could very well fall under the definition of the purpose for which
When they tried to remove Marawi from the country, would that be rebellion or
not argue the point. However, the law that is still existing when the Marawi
siege was committed, mayroong predicate crimes. That is why the government
Senator Lacson. Because they will have to prove first the crime of
interrupt--we are assuming a situation where the Marawi incident took place
Senator Lacson. Then I suppose that the government would have filed a
remove or delete the predicate crimes, then it would encourage the government
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Senator Drilon. All right, Mr. President.
Senator Lacson. I think that is the primary reason why the government
chose to file the case of rebellion against the attackers in Marawi instead of
public uprising.
Senator Drilon. All right. If I were the defense counsel and my client is
We know that the crime of rebellion does not carry the penalty of life
asking.
But assuming, for the sake of argument that rebellion is not a capital
offense--we can check that--if I were the defense counsel, I will try to prove that
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the act committed was rebellion and not terrorism. Question: Assuming that I
am able to prove rebellion, but the charge is terrorism, can I be convicted for
rebellion?
measure is dismissed for some reason, the crime of rebellion can still be
pursued.
the crime of rebellion can still be pursued because there is no double jeopardy.
Senator Drilon. But can the judge, having heard the evidence and
having seen that the element of terrorism has not been proven but, in fact, all
the evidence point to rebellion, can the judge convict the accused of rebellion in
Penal Code where we are charged with murder and we cannot prove an
they fall within the same class of crimes, or whatever. Now, would that same
Revised Penal Code and terrorism is punished under a special law. Can we
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convict one for terrorism or for rebellion under the Revised Penal Code when, in
iyong rule. Yes, the judge cannot convict him for another crime which is
the person or the suspect or the respondent for the crime of terrorism because
he has been arraigned for the crime of terrorism, not the crime of rebellion. So,
terrorism.
Senator Drilon. Anyway, just to end the debate there, in the example
that I gave under the Revised Penal Code, so long as the crimes fall under the
same title, he can be convicted of a lesser crime. But I will not tarry any further
there, Mr. President, I would just request the good sponsor to study this very
well.
Senator Drilon. And find out how we can provide in the law elements
which can distinguish one from the other, so that the prosecutor and the judge
proposed, I do hope that the good sponsor can take this interpellation into
account.
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Senator Lacson. Of course, Mr. President. Except that this is a
the amendments.
Senator Drilon. Or maybe we can waive the rule so that we can have a
President.
The other question, Mr. President, is: What is the difference in the
Senator Lacson. Ang coup d’etat po under Art. 134-A, ang purpose niya
Senator Drilon. That would also fall under the broad definition of
terrorism.
Senator Lacson. But babalik tayo uli roon sa intent and purpose. Iyong
Senator Drilon. Yes, Mr. President. Because the way the definition is
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can be convicted under the anti-terrorism measure. Whereas, in coup d’etat,
Senator Lacson. Iyon na nga po, Mr. President, the elements of coup
d’etat, and may I enumerate, especially No. 1, that the offender is a person or
employment...
Senator Drilon. In the debate last time, it was not clear. I will cite
not saying that there is proof against Senator Honasan, just on a theoretical
did commit and we have already the Anti-Terrorism Law, with what crime will
he be charged?
Senator Lacson. It is coup d’etat, Mr. President, kasi klaro naman ang
power which is also covered by the broad definition of forcing or inducing the
government to…
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Senator Lacson. I see the point of the gentleman, Mr. President. But,
the evidence will clearly show the objective, the intent, or purpose of the person
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, would not this position of the person be
public officer, he would be charged under coup d’état under Article 134-A
Senator Drilon. Kaya nga po. That is why I thought, Mr. President,
officer or a military or police officer which, therefore, qualifies him under coup
d’état. But if he is not a public officer, then it can be under the act of
terrorism. But my problem is, in the definition of the sponsor, terrorism covers
any person. And that is why I asked this question because I remember that
the first time I took the Floor on the period of interpellations, the sponsor
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On the other hand, in the second session, on the same period of
interpellations, the sponsor said that Senator Honasan can be charged for
he can interject and state for the record his purpose at that time.
Senator Drilon. Well, my problem with that is, the purpose could be the
power,” Mr. President. I think, it was clear when Senator Honasan reportedly
diminish state power. Hindi naman po ang purpose niya was to terrorize.
purpose niya is only to terrorize. But the purpose is to seize and diminish
this area because I see this as an area of confusion and difficulty. Of course,
that is our view. The sponsor may take another view. But, I think, there is
is why this discussion might establish the proper language in defining the acts
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Senator Drilon. So, again, just to summarize, we would earnestly
request the good sponsor that, in the period of amendment, he will now make it
clearer in the language what are the elements of terrorism, rebellion, sedition,
or coup d’état, which would distinguish one from the other so that the
prosecutor and the judge can see clearly which direction they should take in
Senator Lacson. With the active help and support of the gentleman, I
from because medyo encompassing ang mga elements dito as proposed, Mr.
President.
Senator Lacson. Thank you for sympathizing with me, Mr. President.
terrorism. That is why we really have to clarify each and every word that is
movement an act of terrorism, if it is? In other words, how does one distinguish
movement?
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Assuming that we have a Nelson Mandela in the country at some future
or a democratic movement?
talk.
Kong, there are democracy movements; the violence takes place. If that
Senator Lacson. Mr. President, I was handed this quote: “One man’s
Senator Drilon. That is correct, Mr. President. So, where does that
prove us?
say, under the condition of a martial rule where maraming mga abuses--I am
not trying to put on the spot. Wala naman pala rito. Ayun. [Laughter]
regime and nanalo sila, then iyon nga iyong quote na, “One man’s terrorist is
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Senator Lacson. Patay sila, Mr. Presisdent—terrorists sila or mga rebels
sila. And they will be answerable criminally for their acts. And that is a fact of
life.
acclaimed as a hero ay dahil nanalo sila, Mr. President. That is a fact of life.
But going back to our discussion, I would like to believe that we have to
really consider and look seriously at the intent and purpose of the act. Kaya
nga idinagdag pa natin iyong “by its nature and context,” Mr. President
Senator Drilon. Yes, Mr. President. I do not disagree with that generally,
time, maybe the good sponsor can look at the definition more closely and see
So, absent the purpose or the intent that would qualify it as an act of
Senator Drilon. All right. One more issue and then I will yield the Floor
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72 hours after the filing of the application should the judge determine that
that correct?
under the measure can be the basis for the detention of the alleged members
of the organization.
proscription.
Senator Lacson. That is correct, Mr. President, even the freezing of the
assets.
Senator Drilon. And then, the burden of proof is shifted from the
government to the proscribed group because it imposes upon the group the
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In other words, the one who is charged will be the one to show that the
order has no basis. Is that not a little difficult in terms of our Constitution
because the burden of proof is shifted to the defendant? The law creates a
is that the preliminary order of proscription may be used to justify the random
In other words, once the judge has ruled on the basis of the preliminary
the order of proscription, the detention may had and the defendant has to
show that the order has no basis because the burden of proof is shifted to
him, rather than the burden being in the prosecutor and the government. Do
a warrant of arrest was issued by the judge on the basis of probable cause. On
this basis, he is not being convicted yet. And while undergoing trial, since the
crime is unbailable, then he is detained until such time that the judge grants
bail or the prosecution fails to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. Pareho rin
proof has shifted to the respondent to prove that he should not be detained
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because, remember, the threshold that the judge would follow before he will
manner that when a prosecutor files the Information, clearly, the prosecutor
has already found probable cause against the individual; and the judge,
warrant of arrest. Pareho rin iyon, wala pong pagkakaiba roon sa regular due
In this case, tama po iyon, detained iyong person because the judge
the judge will have to determine if iyong preliminary order of proscription will
be a permanent order, Mr. President. So, I do not see any deviation from the
under the new rules, hindi porke at may probable cause iyong prosecutor,
situation.
filed, the judge, on the basis of his own personal examination, would determine
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Senator Drilon. That is correct, Mr. President.
Senator Lacson. Before, during our time when I was still with law
enforcement, hindi na kailangan. Kapag sinabi ng prosecutor na, “We are filing
this Information on the basis of probable cause,” the judge had no other
option.
developed.
has ruled that the judge would have to examine personally and determine
Senator Lacson. Yes, Mr. President. Without the judge finding probable
Senator Lacson. As provided for, under the proposal, with the authority
of the Anti-Terrorism Council, upon the recommendation of the NICA, the DOJ
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shall file an application before a competent RTC for the proscription of any
group.
Senator Drilon. All right, Mr. President. I will eagerly await how that will
All right. The judge determines that there is probable cause to declare an
What about the individuals who are supposed to be members of that? What
kind of safeguards can we include in the law so that the mere fact that it is a
arrested?
President, one can be detained for 14 working days, so there could be some
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Senator Lacson. That is a different matter, Mr. President.
arrested.
Senator Drilon. We make that clear because that is very critical for the
Gordon…
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VOLUNTARILY AND KNOWINGLY JOIN ANY ORGANIZATION, ASSOCIATION
Senator Drilon. So, just for the record, it is not mere membership in the
voluntarily, with full knowledge of the nature of the organization, joined it. In
Senator Gordon. The gentleman from Iloilo read my mind. This time he
has the correct reading of my mind, Mr. President, that mere membership is
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Senator Lacson. As a matter of fact, Mr. President, there is a pending
And the government has submitted a list of members. So, doon lamang po
naka-limit iyong mga puwedeng arestuhin and, later on, if they can submit or
rin nila na iyon nga, knowingly, voluntarily and so forth and so on, Mr.
President.
to know.
whether these are really terrorist fronts or organizations, or we just rely on the
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Senator Lacson. I suppose it should require an act of a court in the
Senator Tolentino. Mr. President, may we know from the good sponsor
that at this stage, preliminarily, do we have a listing of the said United Nations
another, Mr. President. There is a list under the United Nations’ resolution of
Senator Tolentino. So, Mr. President, from the answer of the good
sponsor, it would now mean that even if there is a prior list coming from the
court, Mr. President, to formally proscribe the… yes, it must be brought before
a court which will now formally issue an order of proscription, Mr. President.
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determination would come out during that hearing, how would the accused,
the member, exculpate himself? Because the declaration probably might come
out during the hearing and the timing of his membership might be a priori or
probably it was done before the declaration of the court that said organization
President.
Senator Tolentino. I thank the good gentleman and the Minority Leader
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, may I suggest that on page 24, Section
22 which includes a new Section 25, that the good sponsor should examine
closely the paragraph starting on line 22 which says: “THE COURT WILL
THE RESPONDENT MAY, FOR GOOD CAUSE, SHOW WHY THE ORDER OF
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have shifted the burden of proof to the one who is arrested because he has now
to show that the order of proscription should be set aside rather than the
stays with the government, but after 72 hours and the judge determines
probable cause for the issuance of preliminary order of proscription against the
not that high but then, under the proposal, we already shifted the burden to
the accused. Is it not better if the order is reversed so that within that period
the prosecution must show that, indeed, the preliminary order is valid and
Because, remember, this is a summary hearing and this is just for the
hurdle, for purposes of evidence, is low but yet, the burden is shifted to the
accused.
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Senator Lacson. I agree, Mr. President. I would like to cite here another
jurisprudence, Corpus vs. Sarmiento, G.R. No. L-45137, it says here: “When a
case at bar, the burden of proof does not shift to the defense. It remains
throughout the trial with the party upon whom it is imposed—the prosecution.
It is the burden of evidence which shifts from party to party depending upon
the exigencies of the case in the course of the trial. This burden of going
forward with the evidence is met by evidence which balances that introduced
Senator Lacson. Pero nakalagay rin naman dito na, “WHEN THE
Senator Drilon. On page 25, Mr. President, who is the “Deputized law
officials are authorized to file charges. Who is the deputized law enforcement
Mr. President?
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Senator Lacson. It is rather vague, Mr. President. I would like to believe
that it is the Anti-Terrorism Council (ATC) that will issue the authority. The
working days. This is actually three weeks if we will consider this on a calendar
basis, because if we will exclude Saturday and Sunday, this is actually three
Senator Lacson. Yes, Mr. President, five, five, and four working days.
President.
Senator Drilon. Holy week, yes. Will this be vigorously altered if we talk
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Senator Drilon. Yes, Mr. President.
reasonable.
page 20, lines 11 to 14, the provision is proposed to be deleted. The existing
provision would provide “that the arrest of those suspected of the crime of
a provision of the existing law but which is now bracketed and, therefore,
proposed to be deleted. May we spread into the Record the rationale of this
deletion?
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
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Senator Lacson. I move for a one-minute suspension of the session, Mr.
President.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
Act No. 9372, if we will read the proviso or the provision that we propose to
delete, “[Provided, That the arrest of those suspected of the crime of terrorism
Senator Drilon. Our question is, can the good sponsor spread into the
deleted, Mr. President. So, we just want the record to reflect the rationale for
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
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Senator Lacson. Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for
one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
WITHOUT DELAY.”
Senator Drilon. Anyway, again, this is one area probably which the
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Senator Lacson. This can be balanced by the inclusion of several
It says, “the law enforcer taking custody shall notify in writing the judge
nearest the place of arrest of the following facts: time, date, and manner of
condition.” And then also furnished din iyong Anti-Terrorism Council (ATC). We
on Human Rights.
Senator Drilon. Again, just for the record, why is the requirement for an
official custodial logbook under Section 23 of the present law being deleted?
enumerated earlier, ang ipinalit natin ay iyong “The judge nearest the place of
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Senator Drilon. All right.
Senator Lacson. So, mas effective pa iyon, Mr. President, than the
custodial logbook.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for
one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
Senator Drilon. Just a few more minutes, with the indulgence of the
this mean that the bank deposits can be examined even without court
Republic Act No. 10168, Mr. President, iyong effectively amending the Anti-
other laws.
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On page 40, Section 32, which is on bank inquiry and examination,
does the law enforcer need authority from the court to examine bank accounts
President.
those, Mr. President? Because the way I read this Section 32, as amended, it
other words, the situation here is, upon being declared as a terrorist
Laundering Act, ATC “is hereby authorized to issue an ex parte order to freeze
Laundering Act.
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Senator Drilon. So, there is an act of the court to freeze?
inquiry and examine the bank accounts and investments of such organization,
The problem here, Mr. President, that I see is, while one sentence
already implies that it can be done without any court order, the second
sentence says, the inquiry shall be in accordance with Republic Act No. 9160
which requires a court order. Can the good sponsor clarify this?
Senator Lacson. We are not amending the provisions under the Anti-
Senator Drilon. I know, but what does that mean, Mr. President? Just
for the record, for the education of this representation. Once an organization is
order of proscription is issued, that authority would be enough for the AMLC to
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Senator Drilon. Now, is it not the court order in those instances
refers…
Freeze. – The AMLC, either upon its own initiative xxx.” I am quoting Section
11 of RA 10168.
Senator Drilon. Yes, but that is the authority to freeze, Mr. President.
AMLC, either upon its own initiative or at the request of the ATC, is hereby
Senator Drilon. All right. I guess I have exhausted the good portion of
once the amendments are introduced in accordance with our interpellation this
afternoon.
have not changed. Anything that will improve the final version of this measure
is most welcome.
common purpose here--to strengthen our ability to fight terrorism. But at the
same time, we are conscious of our obligation to make sure that abuses are not
committed in the name of fighting terrorism because the line is not very clear
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and so, therefore, we will just await the period of amendments and we reserve
the right, with the permission of the good sponsor, to raise clarificatory
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
Before the break, Senator Lacson was still on the Floor, still on the Anti-
Terrorism bill, Senate Bill No. 1083, and the Minority Leader terminated his
interpellation.
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I would like to take this opportunity to correct myself in the last session
that the Minority Leader did not give me a bamboo tray. He did give me a
bamboo tray last December but I lost it. So, he is giving me another one today.
Senator Zubiri. I would like to also thank him, Mr. President, because
uwi ng aking bamboo tray. [Laughter] Kaya talagang delikado siya sa akin. Is
This is really for further clarification in case the matter gets into the
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Senator Gordon. And, Mr. President, under the Dangerous Drugs Act,
when assets are frozen after a case, it is immediately forfeited in favor of the
procedure.
Senator Lacson. The AMLA will file ex parte, too, Mr. President. And
Senator Gordon. Now, my final question, Mr. President: Where did the
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, since no other member wishes to
interpellate, I move that we close the period of interpellation of Senate Bill No.
1083.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
and it involves the study of so many laws. The good sponsor is the one who is
most familiar with the bill as he is the one who drafted it. It is a substitute bill
and under our Rules, there can be no committee amendments and, therefore,
May I move, Mr. President, that in the period of amendments, the Rules
amendments so that we can have a better appreciation of how the bill will look
proceed with the individual amendments, we will find it very difficult, and
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Senator Drilon. So, that is, if it is in order, Mr. President, I would so
move.
The President. All right. With the approval of the members, we may do
so. So the motion of the Minority Leader may be approved by the Body.
manifestation that the Minority Leader has placed on record, I do not see any
problem at all.
Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the motion of the
amendments.
Senator Zubiri. We would like to ask Senator Lacson if he would ask for
another day?
Senator Zubiri. Actually, that makes a lot of sense, Mr. President. All
the discussions that we had on the Floor, we will incorporate them into
amendments so that we will have a proper flow of the amendments from page
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amendments, ang mangyayari niyan, magkakagulo tayo; back to page one
every time somebody stands up. So, that makes sense, Mr. President.
The President. Of course, it will become a new working draft from the
sponsor.
Mr. President, while waiting for the committee amendments, I move that
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, with the permission of the Body, I move
that we resume consideration of Senate Bill No. 1240 as reported out under
We still have one more interpellator but I believe Sen. Bong Revilla has
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We thank the good senator for that. Therefore, we move to close the period of
interpellations.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I ask that we recognize the sponsor of the
measure, Sen. Aquilino “Koko” Pimentel III, for his committee amendments.
amendments.
Senator Zubiri, Senator Drilon, and Senator Villar are original authors.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, for the record, this is the beautiful
bamboo tray from Iloilo made by the Carmelite Missionaries gifted to us by the
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The President. All right. Thank you again.
Senator Pimentel. So, at this point, Mr. President, there are not less
than nine proposed amendments. We have not yet finalized the exact wording
of that nine, Mr. President. So, if we can schedule this for tomorrow, we will be
ready by tomorrow.
amendments and to include programs on the measure. So, I believe the good
gentleman will still have to review that and probably be able to propose
tomorrow.
the authorship can be traced back to… four of them from the Minority Leader,
four from Senator Villar, and then one is a joint amendment by Senators Binay
So, the bottom line is, can we schedule this for tomorrow?
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Senator Pimentel. Thank you, Mr. President.
Senator Zubiri. Right now, the Senate President is the only one in the
agenda tomorrow until our other committee chairperson can come up with
reports.
primary committee and the Committee on Local Government will become the
secondary committee.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
The President. The Secretary will proceed with the Second Additional
Reference of Business.
RESOLUTIONS
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RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE PROPER SENATE COMMITTEE TO
CONDUCT AN INQUIRY, IN AID OF LEGISLATION AND
WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE PROGRAMME FOR
INTERNATIONAL STUDENT ASSESSMENT (PISA) RESULTS,
IN ORDER FOR THE SENATE TO ALIGN ITS LEGISLATIVE
INITIATIVES AND BUDGETARY PRIORITIES WITH THE
VISION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AS IT
PIVOTS ITS FOCUS FROM ACCESS TO QUALITY IN THE
BASIC EDUCATION SECTOR, AND TO SUSTAIN THE BOLD
EFFORTS OF OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO IMPROVE THE
EDUCATION SYSTEM AND MAKE IT INSTRUMENTAL TO
DEVELOPING THE COUNTRY’S HUMAN CAPITAL AND
SERVE AS A MAJOR CATALYST TO NATIONAL
DEVELOPMENT
ADJOURNMENT OF SESSION
Senator Zubiri. With that, Mr. President, there being no other matters to
take up today, I move that we adjourn the session until three o'clock in the
afternoon, Tuesday, February 4, 2020.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is adjourned until three o'clock in the afternoon, Tuesday, February 4,
2020.
It was 5:30 p.m.
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ANNEX "8"
At 3:00 p.m., the Senate President, Hon. Vicente C. Sotto III, called the
session to order.
The President. The 57th session of the Senate in the First Regular
Session of the Eighteenth Congress is hereby called to order.
PRAYER
Senator Marcos.
Father, You are the Lord and the one true master of our
good or evil, ever escapes You. Nor are You ever caught by
evil, from enemies both natural and human, from new and
Protect us, O Lord, from the greed and avarice of men and nations.
this blessed republic, we beg for Your mercy and the protection of
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Take charge, O Lord; protect and guide us so that once again
Amen.
ROLL CALL
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The Majority Leader is recognized.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
We have also Mayor Jennifer “Ina Alegre” Cruz of Pola, Oriental Mindoro
The President. We welcome all our guests to the Senate this afternoon.
THE JOURNAL
Mr. President, I move that we dispense with the reading of the Journal of
the 56th session, Tuesday, February 18, 2020, and consider it approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
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* Under detention
Senator Zubiri. While we are waiting for the guest of Sen. Pia Cayetano
to enter the gallery for her sponsorship speech, I move that we proceed to the
Reference of Business.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
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REFERENCE OF BUSINESS
The Secretary.
February 17, 2020
The Honorable
VICENTE C. SOTTO III
President of the Senate
Room 606, 211 & 24
New Wing 5th Floor, GSIS Building
Financial Center, Diokno Boulevard
Pasay City
Mr. President:
Respectfully yours,
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Introduced by Senator Hontiveros
RESOLUTIONS
COMMUNICATIONS
COMMITTEE REPORT
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
Mr. President, we would just like to acknowledge the guests of Sen. Pia
former DOF Sec. Margarito Teves; Sec. Ramon M. Lopez of the DTI, my good
friend; Sec. Ernesto Pernia of the NEDA; Usec. Karl Kendrick T. Chua; Usec.
the Philippines (MAP); chairman of the Tax Committee of PCCI, Atty. Benedicta
emeritus of the UP Virata School of Business; and Dr. Recide, professor of the
UP School of Economics.
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We also have with us guests from Dagupan City, Coun. Cisco Jay Flores
SPECIAL ORDER
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, with the permission of the Body, I move
that we transfer from the Calendar for Ordinary Business to the Calendar for
Special Orders Committee Report No. 50 on Senate Bill No. 1357, entitled
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
permission of the Body, the Secretary will read only the title of the bill without
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AN ACT REFORMING THE CORPORATE INCOME TAX AND
INCENTIVES SYSTEM, AMENDING FOR THE PURPOSE
SECTIONS 4, 20, 27, 28, 34 AND 290 OF THE NATIONAL
INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1997, AS AMENDED, AND
CREATING THEREIN NEW TITLE XIII, AND FOR OTHER
PURPOSES
________________________________________________________________________
[Insert]
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The President. Majority Leader.
sponsor, the chairperson of the Committee on Ways and Means, Sen. Pia
Cayetano.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
It was 3:11 p.m.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
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ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF GUESTS
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I ask that we recognize Sen. Pia Cayetano.
your support for Senate Bill No. 1357, per Committee Report No. 50, also
known as the CITIRA bill, which has two main objectives: 1) lowering the
corporate income tax rate; and 2) modernizing the tax incentive system,
Mr. President, from the onset, let me clarify a major issue. A major
source of resistance to this bill is the fear that incentives will be removed once
this measure is enacted. This will not be the case. In truth, what we intend to
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I am sure that both Senate President Sotto and Senate Minority Leader
Drilon, the leaders of both sides of this Chamber, would also know from their
experience that since a bill on rationalizing tax incentives was first proposed in
1995, the Department of Finance and the Department of Trade and Industry
But even further down memory lane, when I was a college student in the
Sen. Rene Cayetano, was a member of the Batasan and was appointed as the
deputy minister for Trade and Industry and concurrently administrator of the
Export Processing Zone Authority (EPZA). I had the opportunity to visit the
export processing zones in Bataan, Baguio, and Cebu. In fact, my thesis was
But here we are today in the year 2020. Mr. President, in the series of
the opportunity to share their views in depth. The DOF and the DTI also held
their own briefings with key stakeholders. The bill before us is a new and fairer
needed employment and livelihood. And yet, companies doing business in the
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Philippines are slapped with a 30% corporate income tax rate, the highest in
the region.
May I direct the Body’s attention to the screen where it shows the
Philippines on the far rate with the highest corporate income tax.
To address this, we will bring down the corporate income tax rate from
30% to 20% over the next 10 years. This should result in some 1.5 million
more jobs, a feat I am certain that we can accomplish. So far, we have already
per year is the pace that does not compromise the country’s vital fiscal
resources.
However, Mr. President, we cannot talk about the corporate tax regime
without earnestly discussing the tax regime for companies that have received
trillion in tax incentives in the form of exemptions and tax discounts to various
companies.
of corporate income tax as opposed to other enterprises that pay the regular
Let me make this clear again, I mentioned the amount of incentives, Mr.
President, not to say that we will scrap them. All we want to do is rationalize
them.
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Incentives should not be given out to any corporation without the proper
such a way that would benefit the public by way of providing employment,
boosting needed industries, and promoting the growth of less developed areas
in the country.
When we give out incentives on behalf of the people, then we are duty
bound to ascertain that we get what is rightly due to them. That is the essence
of this bill: a fair deal for all, and the best deal for Filipinos.
My point, Mr. President, is that true incentives yield results, like the
situation with our neighbors, Singapore and Malaysia. If a tax perk is given
without a clear set of conditions, without a time limit, and without adequate
corporate giveaways.
our 2020 national government budget, around 80% of the budget of the
Department of Education (DepEd), and more than four times the amount
With billions of pesos on the line, we need to ensure that the incentives
which the government provides are in accordance with the following principles
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research and development commitments; else, incentives will only
exam, at maka-graduate.
(BOI);
and, finally,
each with its own charter and mandate that offer different menus of incentives
to various industries, sometimes not in line with national priorities, and often
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without the DOF or the DTI knowing. As a result, there is no one simple set of
incentives that the country may promote to potential investors. This can be
get incentives from these IPAs, which is some two-thirds of the economy, also
make our incentive system indiscriminately open to just about any activity,
This representation thus proposes that there be: (1) a set of incentives for
different projects or activities, depending on the location and industry; and (2)
(SIPP), which will be determined by the BOI, in coordination with the Fiscal
incentives, and the private sector. We also propose to expand the functions of
the Fiscal Incentives Review Board, a body that currently grants incentives to
that this board oversee the IPAs. This much needed governance reform is at the
acknowledge the work of some of our predecessors such as Senator Recto, who
filed the first Fiscal Incentives Review Board expansion bill in 2001 and
Transparency Act, or the TIMTA Law, passed in 2015. The law mandates
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companies to provide the government with data to estimate the tax incentives
they receive, which is now being used to objectively assess our tax incentives.
Both senators, along with Senators Lacson and Villar, have also filed in
I would also like to put on record that our team painstakingly took the
time to ease the transition period for investors and minimize the drastic
Let me now discuss the salient points of the reform as proposed by this
representation.
gradually by one 1% point each year, from the current 30% to 20% by 2029.
version for the first five years to ensure predictability. By 2025, the reduction
programmed deficit.
income tax holiday or ITH for 4 to 6 years, and the special 5% tax on gross
income earned or GIE, in lieu of all taxes, both national and local.
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The 5% tax on GIE is granted forever without conditions, even if the firm
does not contribute to the economy in terms of jobs and exports at a level
Sunset Provisions
groups that will be affected by this bill, we came up with terms that address
their request for a smoother transition period. This addresses our objective,
These are the firms with unfinished ITH and a succeeding gross income
earned (GIE) of 5%. In their case, their ITH will be allowed to expire on
firm has no ITH but is about to go into 5% GIE, they will also enjoy 5% GIE for
a maximum of 5 years.
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Existing registered activities that were granted the 5% tax on GIE, in lieu
paying the same rate of 5% GIE. The duration of the proposed transition
period is as follows:
2 years for those who have been receiving the GIE incentive for more
than 10 years;
3 years for those who have been receiving the GIE incentive for between 5
and 10 years;
5 years for those who have been receiving the GIE incentive for below 5
years, and
A special 7 years for those that meet any of the following conditions:
a. Exporting 100% of their goods and services,
b. Employing at least 10,000 Filipino workers, or
c. Engaging in highly footloose activities.
In addition, Mr. President, after the sunset period, they will be allowed
to apply under the new incentive package where they will be assessed under
(SCIT) rate that is based on gross income earned (GIE). The special corporate
income tax rate will be equivalent to 8% GIE for 2020, 9% for 2021, and 10%
Like the current system, this shall be in lieu of all other taxes, and can
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the concerns of investors that they do not want to deal with many government
agencies when paying taxes. This is why we retained the “in lieu of” provision
and one-stop shop. Based on my discussion with the firms, this particular
The initial availment of tax incentives, which includes income tax holiday
(ITH) plus the special corporate income tax (SCIT) rate is from 5 to 8 years,
There are three categories: basic, enhanced, and advance. This is our
response to the need to make incentives more targeted to locations that need
Duration of the income tax holiday (ITH) and special corporate income
tax (SCIT) per category is already shown on the screen, and there is more good
news in our version. The availment of special corporate income tax may be
years, depending on the category, so long as the firm remains true to its
performance commitments.
In lieu of the special corporate income tax, the registered activity may
incentivize good behavior such as local job creation, exports, and investment in
hi-tech. As proposed by the DTI, our enhanced deductions menu was expanded
to include deductions for power costs to account for the country’s challenges in
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Like the income tax holiday (ITH) and the special corporate income tax
(SCIT), the availment of the enhanced deduction may be extended also for up to
12 years.
And to attract the big investors, like what Vietnam did with Samsung,
the President may give incentives for a longer period of up to 40 years for
highly desirable projects, provided that the benefit that the public could derive
from such investment is clear and convincing and far outweighs the cost of the
function is expanded so that it can provide proper oversight over the IPAs, in
the same way that the GCG Law of 2011 created the Governance Commission
accountability.
Under our proposal, the Board will be chaired by the DOF and co-chaired
by the DTI, with representatives from the Office of the President, DBM, and
NEDA.
Let me assure all the officials and employees of the IPAs that we are not
abolishing their agencies or cutting down jobs. IPAs will continue to perform
incentives for approval by the Board. None of them shall lose their jobs
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because of this reform. Section 9 of Senate Bill No. 1357 specifically provides:
The IPAs shall maintain their functions and powers as provided under the
point, and this is the urgency of our task ahead. Let us end the uncertainty.
resources, including our fiscal space, as limited. With limited fiscal resources
derived from the hard work of our countrymen, we must ask ourselves the
1. Should we cut taxes for many, or should we keep conditions loose for
the few?
accountability or less?
future where there is no poverty, and where our people and economy thrive.
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Rationalizing incentives and lowering the corporate income tax will bring
in more investments and provide more jobs for Filipinos. This ensures that we
remain on target with SDG 8, which promotes decent work and economic
fostering innovation; and, of course, SDG 1, which calls for ending poverty in
all its forms. This is only the beginning, as working on just one SDG creates a
ripple effect on all the other SDGs, especially on hunger, health, education,
Committee on Ways and Means and trusted to study the matter and make
mind that the greater majority will benefit from the lowering of the corporate
investments that are result-based will lead to greater prosperity for our nation.
measure further, I move that we suspend consideration of Senate Bill No. 1357.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
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BILL ON SECOND READING
S. No. 1083—The Law on the Prevention of Terrorist Acts of 2020
(Continuation)
Senate Bill No. 1083, as reported out under Committee Report No. 9.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, the status of this measure is that we are
individual amendments.
DRILON AMENDMENT
back to the text of the original title of the Anti-Terrorism Act as contained in the
committee report and change the year to “2020”. If accepted, Section 1 will now
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read as follows: SECTION 1. Short Title. – This Act shall henceforth be known as
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, may we request for a one-minute
suspension of the session?
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
It was 3:39 p.m.
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Section 1 on the premise that in our discussion with the good sponsor, he has
agreed to use the noun “terrorism” to describe the crime rather than “terrorist
act” as we explained to the good sponsor that the crimes under the Revised
Penal Code are in nouns rather than adjectives. Except for acts of
lasciviousness, I do not find any crime in the Revised Penal Code which
Act of 2020,” a shorter version which will make reference to the law easier.
was revealed during the interpellations that there are at least 109 definitions of
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terrorism. However, with the assurance that the word “terrorism” will be
sponsor, we are not defining “terrorism” as a word but we are defining it by the
approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 2, delete lines 16 to 22, and replace the same
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AND ENERGY SUPPLY, EMERGENCY SERVICES, FOOD SECURITY, FUEL
SECTORS.
approved.
On page 5, delete lines 8 and 9, and replace the same with the following:
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Senator Lacson. We accept, Mr. President.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 11, delete the words “Acts that
may cause”, and replace the same with ENGAGES IN ACTS INTENDED TO
CAUSE.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 12, add letter S at the end of
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 13, delete the phrase “Acts that
may cause”, and replace the same with ENGAGES IN ACTS INTENDED TO
CAUSE.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
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SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for
one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
word “Development” until the phrase “use of”, and replace the same with
SUPPLIES OR USES.
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Senator Marcos. We would just like to hear her comment, Mr. President. This
terrorism.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
So, we retain.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 17, delete the comma (,) after the
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The President. What about the next “or”, is the Minority Leader going to
Senator Drilon. We are going to propose the deletion of the phrase “or
not?
that portion.
The President. Yes. But will the Minority Leader replace it or not?
her amendment.
President.
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Senator Drilon. Yes, Mr. President. We are withdrawing the
amendment.
The President. The Minority Leader may proceed with the next
amendment.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, after (B), insert the following new
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
Senator Drilon. Letter (C), Mr. President. So, letter (C) on line 16
The President. All right. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being
THEREOF.
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The President. Just inserting the phrase.
President.
Senator Drilon. On page 5, line 21, after the word “intimidate”, insert
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 21, delete the words “put in”,
FEAR.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 22, delete the phrase “force or
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
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Senator Drilon. On the same page, lines 22 to 23, delete the phrase “or
abstain from doing any act” as this phrase makes it difficult to distinguish this
with political crimes under the Revised Penal Code. We repeat that, Mr.
President: The use of the phrase “or the public to do or to abstain from doing
any act” will make this also an act of rebellion. And, therefore, the amendments
are aimed to differentiate terrorism from coup d’ etat, rebellion, and sedition.
The President. Can the Minority Leader read now how it will read from
lines 21 to 23?
clarified if we are retaining the phrase “or seriously destabilize or destroy the
The President. Yes. That is why we want to listen how it will come out.
Senator Drilon. All right. We start from line 21, to read: “when the
purpose of such act, by its nature and context, is to intimidate THE GENERAL
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destroy the fundamental political, economic, or social structures of the
shall be guilty of committing TERRORISM and shall suffer the penalty of life
imprisonment without the benefit of parole and the benefits of R.A. No. 10592;
The President. All right. So, what does the sponsor say?
The President. Pero mamaya pa iyon. We are not there yet. We are
(,).
approved.
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of the session?
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
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The President. The session is resumed.
I repeat that. On page 5, delete starting with the word “terrorist” on line
29 until the word “others” on page 6, line 2, and replace the same with the
President.
distinguished sponsor.
Upon consultation with the distinguished sponsor and upon hearing the
Leader, it looks to me that we are not deviating with the intention of this
particular provision, but we are telling out and detailing this particular
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The President. All right. So, there is no objection from the proponent
earlier.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
What did the gentleman do with the “terrorist act” on line 25? Is he
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
TERRORISM.
already.
Senator Drilon. On line 6, we propose to delete the phrase “and one day
to twenty (20) years”. So, that it is just “twelve (12) years”, Mr. President.
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The President. The same rationale as in the previous proposed
amendment.
approved.
Senator Drilon. On line 25, delete the phrase “eight (8) years and one
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
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Senator Drilon. On page 7, line 5, instead of “26”, it should be 27.
Senator Lacson. Did the gentleman say five, Mr. President? It should
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Senator Lacson. It is accepted, Mr. President.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Lacson. Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for
one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
It was 4:11 p.m.
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amendments on page 7, line 13, delete the phrase “eight (8) years and one day
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
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Senator Drilon. Mr. President, we withdraw the amendment on line 16.
On page 8…
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for
one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
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Senator Drilon. Still on page 7, lines 29 to 31, delete the phrase starting
with the words “including acts of” as we have transposed this in an earlier
section.
The President. So, we put a period (.) after the word “training”.
Senator Drilon. Yes, semicolon (;), Mr. President. So, on lines 29 to 31,
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through any of the following means:” and insert a semicolon (;) after the word
“training”.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
to another section.
Section 10?
The President. All right. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being
to on line 27, the word “known”, et cetera. So, it is just a matter of style, Mr.
President.
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The President. So, on line 25, delete the word “knowingly”.
matter of style.
in the subsequent…
same page, line 27, delete the phrase “or who should have known” and replace
The President. All right. So, remove the word “knowingly” on line 25,
and on line 27, make it KNOWING, replacing the phrase “or who should have
known”.
approved.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for
one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
It was 4:19 p.m.
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delete this provision because any person who participates or cooperates in the
We note that persons who provide material support to terrorists are liable
cooperated in the execution of the act should be punished with a penalty lower
The President. The Minority Leader does not want a second class
criminal? [Laughter]
All right. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for
one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
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The President. The session is resumed.
Senator Drilon. On page 9, line 14, delete the word “and”, as a matter
of style.
Just to continue on the same page, lines 14 and 15, after the word
On the same page, line 21, delete “ten (10) years and one day to”.
On the same page, lines 22 to 23, and up to page 9A, delete lines 24 to
25, and replace the same with the following: NO PERSON, REGARDLESS OF
THIS SECTION.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
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Senator Drilon. We now turn to page 12.
INFORM THE COURT AFTER THE LAPSE OF THE 30-DAY PERIOD OF THE
TERMINATION THEREOF.
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Senator Lacson. We are expressing some reservation on the proposed
enforcement officials and they maintained that there might be some sleeper
cells, that if we inform the person, the subject of the surveillance after the
lapse of the 60-day or the 90-day period including the extension, there may be
sleeper cells that can still operate and they could be warned by the person who
cetera.
Senator Lacson. If we can just go away with the notification for the
reason that I advanced earlier. This is an appeal from the law enforcement
officers.
Senator Lacson. Except the last portion. It is all right to inform the
issuing court.
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Senator Lacson. Mr. President, but the phrase “THAT THE PERSON
Senator Drilon. All right. The first paragraph is not accepted. We are
Senator Lacson. Informing the court is fine with us, Mr. President.
Senator Drilon. Informing the court, yes, Mr. President. We retain the
first sentence of the second paragraph and delete the remaining of the second
paragraph.
from “FOR PURPOSES OF THIS PROVISION” all the way to “OFFICE” period (.).
Senator Drilon. If we will just read the second paragraph, it will read:
INFORM THE COURT AFTER THE LAPSE OF THE 30-DAY PERIOD OF THE
withdrawn.
President.
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 13, line 18, delete the phrase “and one day to
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
it?
Senator Lacson. Mr. President, just for uniformity and consistency, can
“six (6) years” and on line 18, the phrase “and one day to twelve (12) years”.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
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Senator Drilon. On page 14, line 6, delete the phrase “eight (8) years
and one day to ten (10) years”, and replace the same with SIX (6) YEARS.
Senator Drilon. Remove the phrase “eight (8) years and one day to ten
(10) years” and replace the period with SIX (6) YEARS.
The President. So we can remove “eight (8) years and one day to” on
lines 23 and 24. So, it shall read: penalized by imprisonment of TEN (10)
YEARS.
acceptable to all?
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Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the amendment is
approved.
Senator Drilon. Consistent with that, Mr. President, on page 20, line 9,
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 15, line 7, delete the phrase “and one day to
twelve (12) years”. So, we will just retain “ten (10) years”.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
provisions.
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Senator Lacson. Line 15, Section 25, Unauthorized or Malicious
police officer will notify the subject of the surveillance due to illegal interception
is not here.
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My understanding when he introduced the amendment is that after the
court has been informed and all the materials can be disposed of, that is the
time that the person may be informed of, say, if a particular number has been
subject of wiretapping and the law enforcement officer included another mobile
number, then that is tantamount to malicious or illegal… But the point is, who
not require the law enforcement officer to submit to the aggrieved party or to
information.
The President. I see the point, but the proposed amendment here
This was styled based on the proposed amendment of Senator Pangilinan and
The President. We will probably table this and ask Senator Pangilinan
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Senator Drilon. Thank you, Mr. President.
Trial Court”, and replace the same with AUTHORIZING DIVISION OF THE
COURT OF APPEALS.
Mr. President, the reason is that the order of proscription has very
propose that instead of the RTC, it should be the Court of Appeals. That is also
Senator Drilon. After the word “before”, replace the phrase “competent
The President. So, the gentleman wants to use an article “an” instead
of “a”?
The President. All right. We replace the article “a” also. We remove the
phrase “a competent Regional Trial Court”, and replace it with the phrase THE
Senator Lacson. I have no problem with that, except that I would just
like to remind the Minority Leader that also included under the proposed
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measure is the designation by the Supreme Court of special courts. It is not
Senator Drilon. Yes, we are aware of that. So, with that, Mr. President,
approved.
Senator Drilon. Mr. President, on the same page, line 5, the heart of the
sponsor need not grieve because this is on the same subject, just delete the
words “Regional Trial”, so that it will just read: BY THE SAID COURT.
approved.
was approached by one of our colleagues, Senator Marcos, that she has a
proposal. She has an anterior amendment on the earlier pages. So, para hindi
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Senator Marcos. Yes, Mr. President. Earlier on, part of sufferance of
Senator Drilon who clearly has the Floor, I have been waiting for the mention of
under Sections 11 and 12. I was told that this is included under “CRITICAL
inadequate given that cyber terrorism is the prime mode of the commission of
information services. I think that is grossly inadequate given the attacks that
recruitment that tends to sow and create a condition of fear and panic among
The President. Where does the lady senator propose to place it? May we
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So, I would just like to clarify with Senator Lacson if those were
acceptable since CBRN was mentioned earlier but I was assured that cyber
terrorism would be included at some point in time. But we are already towards
the end, and in defining penalties and jurisdiction, we are not yet there.
The President. So the proposal, if the sponsor will look into it, would be
The President. So, would the lady senator want to incorporate it in one
section or…
used for recruiting terrorists, the fake news that spreads all sorts of rumors
throughout the population that panics everyone and, certainly, the system that
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untraditional and the new methods of terrorism such as the drone attack and
the drone assassination were clearly cyber terror, and the use of digital and
Senator Lacson. Can we ask for some time to review this, Mr. President,
Constitution?
priority to cyber terrorism because that is clearly the way of the uncertain
terrorist future.
just review so we can be assured that we are not running afoul of the provision
of the Constitution.
The President. All right. Then we will be having two points to review:
cannot determine today; and the proposal of Senator Marcos which will have to
Senator Marcos. Thank you very much, Mr. President, our sponsor, as
well as, of course, our distinguished Minority Leader for his sufferance and
forbearance. I will also do my very best to come up with language that abides
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The President. Yes. It might be easier if the lady senator will submit to
The President. The Minority Leader may continue. We are still on page
16.
Senator Drilon. Still on page 16, Mr. President. On line 11, delete the
words “Regional Trial”, consistent with the amendment in the preceding lines.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
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Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 13, after the word “substance”,
now read:
determined that probable cause exists on the basis of the verified application
TERRORISM, he/she shall, within seventy two (72) hours after the filing of the
both are acceptable, subject to style. What does the sponsor say?
determined that probable cause exists on the basis of the verified application
TERRORISM.
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Senator Lacson. That is accepted, Mr. President. Are we withdrawing the
Senator Lacson. All right, Mr. President, accepted. So, it is still based on
probable cause?
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, delete lines 17 to 21 and replace the
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Senator Lacson. Provided that we follow the renumbering later on, Mr.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 22, insert the word PERMANENT
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 10, delete the phrase “charged
or”.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 20, delete the phrase “charged
with or”.
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 12, place a period (.) after the
CALENDAR DAYS.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 16, delete the semicolon (;) after
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
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Senator Drilon. On page 17, line 16, replace the semicolon (;) after the
word “delay” with a period (.) and delete the rest of the sentence until line 19
with the word “order” as the previous amendment was already accepted.
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 18, line 1, delete the phrase “and one day to
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. A matter of style, on the same page, line 26, delete the
phrase “Penalty for”. The title of the provision there shall now read: “Violation
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On line 27, delete the phrase “and one day to twelve
(12) years”.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
propose to delete the phrase “Requirement for an”. The title should simply be
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 19, lines 5 and 6, delete the phrase “charged
with or”.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 20, line 9, replace the phrase “ten (10) years
and one day to twelve (12) years” with the phrase SIX (6) YEARS.
(10) YEARS.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
President.
HONTIVEROS AMENDMENT
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With the indulgence of the good sponsor and the good Minority Leader, I
proposed by the Minority Leader and accepted by the good sponsor, that it
The President. This was deleted by the Minority Leader, page 16, lines
17 to 21.
Senator Hontiveros. Page 16, Mr. President, line 21, replacing the
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Senator Lacson. With the permission of Senator Drilon, the sponsor
Leader.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
DRILON AMENDMENTS
Senator Drilon. On page 20, line 22, Section 35, Restriction on the Right
to Travel, insert the word INVESTIGATING before “prosecutor”, and delete the
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On line 24, after the acronym “PHDO”, insert a comma
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
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Senator Drilon. And on the same page, line 23, delete the phrase “in
accordance with the Supreme Court Rule on PHDO”, matter of style. This
presumed that the PHDO is in accordance with the Supreme Court rules
issued.
The President. So, the proposal of the gentleman comes after the word
“respondent”?
The President. All right. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Lacson. Mr. President, I move that we suspend the session for
one minute.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended for one minute.
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Senator Drilon. On page 21, line 14, delete the phrase “to cancel the
passport of the accused” and replace it with the following: TO INITIATE THE
ACCUSED.
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Senator Lacson. It is accepted, Mr. President.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 21, line 19, change the title to ANTI-MONEY
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 23, line 11, the provision on Republic Act No.
9372 or the Human Security Act is being deleted in the bill. We propose to
Senator Drilon. This is in line with the Bank Secrecy Law, Mr.
President.
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The President. All right, subject to style. Is there any objection?
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 12, remove the word “Provision”,
when we say SHALL SUFFER THE PENALTY OF FOUR (4) YEARS, four years of
Senator Drilon. On the same page, lines 12 to 14, we will just read the
proceedings shall lie against any person acting in good faith when
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Lacson. I was just tempted to say earlier that when three people
of the same age discuss, when two forget, one remembers. [Laughter]
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The President. Agreed.
Senator Drilon. Still on page 23, line 16, delete the words “Penalty of”, a
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 20, after the word “Section”,
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. Still on the same page, line 21, replace “ten (10) years
and one day to twelve (12) years” with FOUR (4) YEARS, Mr. President.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. Still on the same page, line 23, after the title, insert the
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SHALL BE GOVERNED BY. I will just read the whole sentence with the
GOVERNED BY the provisions of R.A. No. 6981, otherwise known as the ‘”The
Witness Protection, Security and Benefits Act”, and then delete the rest of the
more liberal in application rather than Sections 17 and 18 of Rule 119. This is
because under the Witness Protection, Security and Benefits Act, it is the
secretary of justice who can determine who are the witnesses and exclude the
the court which will have to rule and that ruling is subject to appeal. And,
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 24, lines 7 to 8, delete the phrase “twelve (12)
years and one day to twenty (20) years” and replace it with SIX (6) YEARS.
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
GUILTY OF AN OFFENSE AND SHALL SUFFER THE PENALTY OF: (A) TEN (10)
OF A COMPETENT COURT.
been convicted, and a person that has not yet been convicted? So, there are
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Senator Drilon. This is basically a provision of the Revised Penal Code,
Mr. President. The distinction is in the Revised Penal Code; we just followed
it.
The President. The Minority Leader just followed the distinction in the
RPC?
The President. That is right. So, what does the sponsor think?
on the police officer who has custody, and to impose life imprisonment maybe
a…
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Senator Lacson. Not that, Mr. President. There should be no
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
The President. Yes, this will probably be the new Section 43 instead,
subject to renumbering.
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Senator Lacson. Yes, Mr. President.
Senator Drilon. So, from line 23, starting with the phrase “the Secretary
of Science and Technology” up to the number “(16)” on line 28. So, the ninth
(AMLC) Secretariat”. We do not see really the need to have this many,
especially the Secretary of Science and Technology, the Secretary of Labor and
Employment…
The President. So, the Minority Leader is removing all from number (9),
“the Secretary of Science and Technology”, all the way to “(BARMM), and” on
line 28.
The President. All right. To remove all these number of members in the
[Laughter]
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What does the sponsor say?
approved.
It is nine lamang.
[Laughter]
Mr. President, on page 27, lines 7 and 8, delete the phrase “alleged
violation of any of the acts defined and penalized under Sections 4, xxx” until
line 9.
starting from the words “alleged violation” on line 7 until the word “Act” on line
9.
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Senator Drilon. Yes, Mr. President, line 9. From the word “alleged” on
line 7 up to the “Act” on line 9, and replace the same with FOR ANY CRIME
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 27, lines 11 to 13, delete the phrase “for alleged
10, 11 and 12 of this Act” and replace with FOR ANY CRIME DEFINED AND
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 28, lines 11 to 13, delete the phrase starting
with the words “such as” on line 11, ending with the acronym “AMLC” on line
13.
Mr. President.
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Senator Lacson. It is accepted, Mr. President.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
“said crimes” on the next line and replace the same with the words THIS ACT.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. On the same page, line 27, just remove the phrase “Role
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
LACSON AMENDMENT
Senator Lacson. Before that, Mr. President. On page 28, “Role of the
issue with the phrase “concurrent jurisdiction to prosecute public officials, law
prosecutorial powers, so, I will move to amend or delete the phrase “concurrent
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The President. So, we put period (.) after the phrase “implementation of
this Act”.
shall give the highest priority to the investigation and prosecution…” et cetera.
Senator Lacson. That is all right, Mr. President, because they can
assist in the prosecution, but they should not have concurrent jurisdiction to
prosecute.
The President. So, we put a period (.) after the word “Act”, and we
Senator Lacson. From the word “and” on line 29 all the way to line 2
on page 29.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
DRILON AMENDMENT
Senator Drilon. On page 30, line 26, Promoting Peace and Industry in
Schools, Learning Centers and Training Institutions, this provision has no place
The President. Delete the entire Section 50. What does the sponsor
say?
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The President. Senator Marcos is recognized.
Senator Marcos. Yes, Mr. President. This was borne out of the
experience that we just endured in the lumad schools in the Cotabato area as
well as the recruitment by the NPA in PUP and in other schools here in Metro
Manila. As a result, I think this amendment was put together. But, perhaps,
there are other laws that can take care of that, we concede that this
The President. With that manifestation, what does the sponsor say?
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is suspended.
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approved.
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Senator Drilon. On page 29, line 9, delete the phrase “of this Act”, just
a matter of style.
The President. We delete the phrase “of this Act” in the title of Section
48.
approved.
Senator Drilon. On page 30, lines 7 and 8, delete the phrase “Republic
of the Philippines, without exception whatsoever, shall submit the case without
undue delay to the DOJ for the purpose of prosecution”, and replace the same
I repeat, on page 30, lines 7 and 8, delete the phrase “Republic of the
undue delay to the DOJ for the purpose of prosecution”, and replace the same
Mr. President, the reason why we are doing this is, in case there is really
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referring it to the DOJ may result in a situation where, because of lack of
Senator Lacson. Mr. President, under the principle of aut dedere aut
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Revised Penal Code. Anyway, if it is applicable, the Revised Penal Code itself
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Drilon. Finally, on the same page, delete lines 14 to 18. This is
Appropriations; again, it has no place in this bill. It can certainly deserve this
appropriation but it should be in the budget, Mr. President, not here. That is
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Senator Lacson. We accept, Mr. President.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
amendment is approved.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, may I just ask a question? Is this the
The President. Why? Does the Majority Leader not recognize it?
Senator Zubiri. Parang hindi na, Mr. President. Let me see. We will
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
Senator Zubiri. Yes, Mr. President. May I just ask for a one-minute
suspension to confer with the sponsor because one of our colleagues wants to
propose amendments but he is not here today. So, I will have to ask the
pleasure of the sponsor. I will always follow the pleasure of the sponsor.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
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The President. The session is resumed.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, after conferring with the author and
sponsor, I completely agree that we have put this on the agenda for several
weeks now, ang loko nga natin dito ay walang kamatayang Anti-Terrorism Act
The good sponsor is willing to wait until the end of the session which is
about another hour from now while we are deliberating on the bill of Senator
Gatchalian and sponsorships of about three other members. That would be one
hour from now. May we ask the staff of Senator Tolentino and Senator Pimentel
study this and if the sponsor will agree to further sponsor these amendments.
The President. All right. Because there had been a number of days
already for the period of amendments. We have had several revised copies
already.
The President. And once a bill has passed through the washing machine
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The President. --it could probably be a good bill already.
Senator Zubiri. So, with that, Mr. President, I move that we suspend
consideration temporarily of Senate Bill No. 1083 for an hour while awaiting
The President. But we are promising the sponsor that we will pass it on
Senator Zubiri. Yes, Mr. President, I am not going home today without
The President. All right, very good. So, in the meantime, there is a
approved.
Sen. Cynthia Villar would like to sponsor Senate Bill No. 1342.
At this juncture, Sen. Vicente C. Sotto III relinquished the Chair to Sen. Joel
Villanueva.
SPECIAL ORDER
Mr. President, I move that we transfer from the Calendar for Ordinary
Business to the Calendar for Special Orders Committee Report No. 47 on
Senate Bill No. 1342, entitled
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AN ACT ADDRESSING FOOD SECURITY CONCERNS THROUGH
INTEGRATING INSTRUCTIONAL GARDENS IN PRIMARY AND
SECONDARY SCHOOL CURRICULA AND PROMOTING THE
USE OF URBAN AGRICULTURE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we consider Senate Bill No.
1342 as reported out under Committee Report No. 47.
The Presiding Officer [Senator Villanueva]. Is there any objection?
[Silence] There being none, the motion is approved.
Consideration of Senate Bill No. 1342 is now in order. With the
permission of the Body, the Secretary will read only the title of the bill without
prejudice to inserting in the Record the whole text thereof.
The Secretary. Senate Bill No. 1342, entitled
[Insert]
senator from Las Piñas, the chairperson of the Committee on Agriculture, Food
The Presiding Officer [Senator Villanueva]. The lady senator from Las
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Senator Villar. Mr. President, my esteemed colleagues, a pleasant
afternoon to all.
and Agrarian Reform, together with the Committees on Basic Education, Arts
and Culture; Finance; and Ways and Means, I am pleased to submit Committee
Report No. 47. This Committee Report is the result of Senate Bill Nos. 147,
257, 280, 587, and 1264, which were primarily referred to the Committee on
This bill aims to address the issue of food security starting with teaching
the youths the fundamental concepts about nutrition, the cultural and
Under this bill, local government units will have a crucial role in
agriculture.
studies, which show the increase in number of Filipino children suffering from
seek the approval of Committee Report No. 47 on Senate Bill No. 1342.
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Thank you very much, Mr. President.
SPECIAL ORDER
Calendar for Ordinary Business to the Calendar for Special Orders Committee
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move that we consider Senate Bill No.
1365 as reported out under Committee Report No. 51.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
motion is approved.
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The Secretary. Senate Bill No. 1365, entitled
Mr. President.
Mr. President, esteemed fellow senators, I bid this Body good afternoon.
Over the past decade, Mr. President, the Philippines has enacted a
number of landmark laws which have achieved substantial reforms within our
education system. However, despite the gains we have made, we must also
education system.
Bank Group, at least 24 million Filipinos over the age of 15 have not completed
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basic education. There are an additional 2.4 million children between ages five
and 14 who are not in school. In essence, this means that 26.4 million
youth, adult Filipinos, and children in special extreme cases whose right to
lessons of the Accreditation & Equivalency Program, ALS allows these learners
to make up for the lost time and earn basic and secondary education
goal of ALS is to achieve a 100% high school graduation rate among Filipinos.
ambitious goal. Between 2016 to 2018, a little over two million Filipinos
enrolled in ALS. Only 1.4 million completed the A&E Program, and just
390,057 passed the A&E Test. This means that during that three-year period,
only 7.6% of all eligible Filipino learners enrolled in ALS. Worse, only 1.5% of
them were able to earn their basic or secondary education equivalency through
the program.
chance at creating better lives for themselves and their families. We must act
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now to reverse this injustice and provide our countrymen with the education
they deserve.
With this in mind, Mr. President, the bill we are sponsoring today seeks
detail the gaps and weaknesses within the current ALS framework, in close
Alternative Learning System, with its functions being integrated into other
dedicated ALS bureau has negatively impacted the DepEd’s capacity to operate
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Second, this bill seeks to expand and strengthen the ALS teacher
program. According to the DepEd, there are only 9,535 ALS teachers
nationwide. With 840,446 learners enrolled in ALS in the year 2018, this
System, this means that there is only one teacher for every 2,768 potential ALS
learners.
Budget and Management to work with the DepEd and the Civil Service
Commission to create teaching positions for ALS teachers and allocate the
In addition, the DepEd shall also hire ALS literacy volunteers and
the ALS programs. The bill also provides allowances to ALS teachers, who are
This bill also mandates the establishment of at least one ALS Community
Learning Center or CLC in every municipality and city throughout the country.
Unlike the formal education system, which has school buildings, there is no
dedicated learning space for ALS programs to hold classes or give tests. This
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ALS. Through the establishment of ALS CLCs across the country, ALS teachers
and learners will finally have access to the physical infrastructure needed to
facilitate learning.
Lastly, the ALS Act will empower the private sector to partner with the
incentives which are responsive to the needs and distinct situations of the
All in all, Mr. President, the reformed and revitalized Alternative Learning
this legislation to uplift the lives of millions of our fellow citizens is boundless.
Just ask our colleague, one of the most famous ALS graduates, Sen. Many
Pacquiao. Unfortunately, wala po siya rito. Our senator and boxing champion
was a first year high school dropout, who took and passed the A&E Test under
the ALS program in 2007. He got his high school diploma and is now an
inspiration and model for out-of-school youth and adults who are determined
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inihain ng inyong lingkod ay naglalayong mailapit sa kanila ang pagkakataon
Culture, I hope you will all join me in advocating for the swift passage and
Gatchalian.
Majority Leader.
Actually, Senator Pacquiao did not just finish high school, but he
recently got his college diploma from the University of Makati (UMak).
the ALS?
Senator Zubiri. Yes, Mr. President, because of his ALS, he was able to
finish high school to be able to take up his college course. So, congratulations
measure and they requested that their cosponsorship speeches be inserted into
the Record and deemed as read in the Senate. These are Senators Revilla,
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whose speech is already here for submission to the Secretariat, Senator Recto,
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The following are the text of the Sponsorship Speeches of Senators Revilla, Recto,
Pacquiao and Binay:
(INSERT)
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measure further, I move that we suspend consideration of Senate Bill No. 1365.
So, may we suspend for one minute to be able to contact Senator Gordon.
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The Presiding Officer [Sen. Villanueva]. Senator Gordon is at the
lounge.
TOLENTINO AMENDMENT
So, on page 2A, line 19, add a new paragraph which shall read as
follows:
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
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The Presiding Officer [Sen. Villanueva]. Is there any objection?
[Silence] There being none, the session is suspended for one minute.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
Just to remind the Body that we are using the amended copy as of
Senator Gordon. Then, we are done. He has already accepted all the
amendments. [Laughter]
GORDON AMENDMENTS
On page 1, line 7, after the word “shall”, insert the phrase ESTABLISH A
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The Presiding Officer [Sen. Villanueva]. Is there any objection? [Silence]
Senator Gordon. On the same page, line 7, after the word “programs”,
insert the word INTRAMURALS and add a comma (,), Mr. President.
recognizes the vital role of the youth in nation-building and shall promote and
Towards this end, the State shall ESTABLISH A NATIONAL SPORTS PROGRAM
The Presiding Officer [Sen. Villanueva]. What does the sponsor say?
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Just for purposes of history, Mr. President. The rationale, of course, is
that the State shall establish a national sports program to ensure that all
Constitution.
Senator Gordon. Now, on page 3A, line 29c, after the word “SYSTEM”,
The Presiding Officer [Sen. Villanueva]. What does the sponsor say?
Senator Gordon. Mr. President, just to be sure, it will now read: (A) TO
THE SPORTS HIGH SCHOOLS UNDER THE PHILIPPINE HIGH SCHOOL FOR
PROGRAM.
And then, the last amendment, Mr. President, is on page 4, line 26,
insert a new paragraph (I), to read as: (I) TO RECRUIT THE BEST STUDENT
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ENROLLED IN THE PHSS TO BETTER HONE THEIR SKILLS AND TALENTS
semi-colon (;).
Senator Gordon. That is all, Mr. President. I thank the good sponsor for
facilitating all the amendments because these are meant to follow what Sen.
my seatmate, and my chairman in the Red Cross for enhancing the bill and
and Gatchalian.
Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, with that, I move that we close the period
of amendments.
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, with the permission of the good sponsor,
Senator Hontiveros…
Dela Rosa, who is also a sportsman, a great combat shooter, Mr. President.
Mr. President, I move that we vote on Second Reading on Senate Bill No.
1086.
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
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Senator Zubiri. While we are waiting for our colleagues for two more
measures, may we ask for a one-minute suspension of the session.
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
[Laughter]
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, I move to close the period of
interpellations.
Senator Zubiri. And also for the record, Sen. Franklin M. Drilon, our
distinguished Minority Leader, is listed here. I sought his position on this and
he says that he will no longer interpellate. Just for the record, Mr. President.
So, the next motion is to move for the period of amendments, I believe
the good sponsor has amendments. So, I move to open the period of
amendments.
GATCHALIAN AMENDMENTS
Senator Gatchalian. Mr. President, for the record, this bill has been
Lower House never approved their version. So, I refiled it during the Eighteenth
amendments.
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On page 7, delete lines 18 to 28.
the organizational and operational requirements of the Institute”, such that the
Senator Gatchalian. On page 7, line 32, delete the words and figure
“One Hundred Million Pesos (100,000,000.00)”, and replace it with the words
Senator Gatchalian. That is all, Mr. President. Thank you very much.
Gatchalian.
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, with the permission also of the sponsor, I
move that Sen. Joel Villanueva, myself, Sen. Risa Hontiveros, and Sen. Ronald
amendments.
There being none, we shall now vote on Second Reading on Senate Bill No.
1296, as amended.
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The Presiding Officer [Sen. Villanueva]. Is there any objection?
coauthor of Senate Bill No. 1365, the Alternative Learning System bill.
With the permission of the sponsor, I move that Sen. Joel Villanueva,
Hontiveros, and Sen. Ronald “Bato” dela Rosa be made as cosponsors and
SUSPENSION OF SESSION
RESUMPTION OF SESSION
At 6:27 p.m., the session was resumed with Senate President Vicente C.
Sotto III presiding.
Senate Bill No. 1083 as reported out under Committee Report No. 9.
recognized.
Senator Lacson. Mr. President, may I ask that we now close the period
of amendments.
Tolentino.
amendments.
concerned that we will just take up their proposed amendments during the
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The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
shall now vote on Second Reading on Senate Bill No. 1083, as amended.
The President. As many as are against the bill, say nay. [Silence]
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Senator Zubiri. Mr. President, on Monday, we have very important
hearings. I believe they would like to borrow the Session Hall for these
important hearings.
Mr. President, with the permission of the Body, we sought the approval of
all our colleagues on this and it was 99% approved that we adjourn the session
until the 26th of February, 2020 because on the 25th, we have no work. It is a
ADJOURNMENT OF SESSION
So, Mr. President, to allow our colleagues to utilize all our rooms on
Monday for very important hearings, particularly the Session Hall, we move to
adjourn the session until three o’clock in the afternoon, Wednesday, February
26, 2020.
The President. Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the
session is adjourned until three o’clock in the afternoon, Wednesday, February
26, 2020.
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ANNEX "9"
CABANOS – 4 June 2, 2020 6:35 p.m.
ho nilang patunayan iyong violation noong batas na iyon bago pa natin sila ihabla
So, sa pagpasa natin nitong batas na ito, pinaliliit po natin ang mundo ng
maituturing silang terorista sa batas na ito. Tama ba, Mr. Sponsor, Ginoong
Speaker?
REP. BIAZON. Mali po. Hindi po saklaw iyong pagkilos noong ating mga
mayroong ibinibigay na leeway para hindi isama ang protest, dissent, stoppage
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CABANOS – 4 June 2, 2020 6:35 p.m.
of work, and mass action na ang purpose ay mag-exercise ng civil and political
rights.
panukalang batas kung hindi iyong mga tao na nais maghasik ng violence, ng
mamamayan.
Sponsor na hindi covered or covered ng terrorist act ito pero sa aktwal po,
halimbawa, hindi naman ganoon iyong nangyayari. Halimbawa, ngayon nga lang
nito at pupuwede pong magamit. Kaya po sinasabi namin na ang dali-dali nating
REP. BIAZON. Mr. Speaker, alam ninyo po isa ako doon sa naging
proponent ng Human Security Act of 2007. Noong tinatalakay namin iyong batas
noong panahon na iyon, noong panukalang batas pa siya, pareho rin po iyong
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CABANOS – 4 June 2, 2020 6:35 p.m.
ano ho ang nakita natin? Halos hindi nga ho nagamit iyong batas dahil hindi
inilalagay natin dito sa mga ipinapanukala nating batas. Tulad po nito nga, hindi
dahil gusto nilang i-improve ang kabuhayan nila dahil wala naman po silang
isaklaw na magamit iyong batas na ito sa iyo. Kaya po, again, isinasama natin
political rights.
/atc
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ANNEX "10"
GUERRA – 6 June 2, 2020 8:10 p.m.
proceed.
REP. CABATBAT. Ako na ba? Hello. Mr. Speaker, can you hear me?
THE DEPUTY SPEAKER (Rep. Estrella). Yes, loud and clear. The
Base sa narinig ko, mukhang wala yatang magiging amendment, but I will still
try my luck. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, kung nabalitaan natin iyong mga nangyayari
pagpatay kay George Floyd. At kung maaalala din natin, noong bago magkaroon ng
kanyang employer.
terorismo iyong mga pangyayaring iyon, kaya naman, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, I
would like to (inaudible) the following words in Section 4, to wit: MASS ACTIONS,
Isa po ito sa aking mga amendments, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, and would
REP. NOGRALES (J.B.). Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I agree with the analysis
need to amend it for that implied those actions are already implied that they are not
acts of terrorism. So, we don’t see any necessity to amend the current bill as it is.
disagree, but thank you, thank you for that concession and admission that it is
doon po sa Section 4(a) that says, “Engages in acts intended to cause death or
serious bodily injury to any person, or endangers a person’s life”, baka naman po
RANDOM PERSONS”.
GUERRA – 6 June 2, 2020 8:10 p.m.
REP. NOGRALES (J.B.). Mr. Speaker, to read Section 4(a) means you have
to read Section 4 in toto which includes the very much intent in subsection (e) …
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ANNEX "11"
28 September 2001
01-55743 (E)
*0155743*
S/RES/1373 (2001)
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ANNEX "12"
20 January 2003
03-21605 (E)
*0321605*
S/RES/1456 (2003)
Annex
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(b) assist each other, to the maximum extent possible, in the prevention,
investigation, prosecution and punishment of acts of terrorism, wherever
they occur;
(c) cooperate closely to implement fully the sanctions against terrorists and
their associates, in particular Al-Qaeda and the Taliban and their
associates, as reflected in resolutions 1267 (1999), 1390 (2002) and 1455
(2003), to take urgent actions to deny them access to the financial
resources they need to carry out their actions, and to cooperate fully with
the Monitoring Group established pursuant to resolution 1363 (2001);
3. States must bring to justice those who finance, plan, support or commit
terrorist acts or provide safe havens, in accordance with international law, in
particular on the basis of the principle to extradite or prosecute;
4. The Counter-Terrorism Committee must intensify its efforts to promote the
implementation by Member States of all aspects of resolution 1373 (2001), in
particular through reviewing States’ reports and facilitating international
assistance and cooperation, and through continuing to operate in a transparent
and effective manner, and in that regard the Council;
(i) stresses the obligation on States to report to the CTC, according to
the timetable set by the CTC, calls on the 13 States who have not
yet submitted a first report and on the 56 States who are late in
submitting further reports to do so by 31 March, and requests the
CTC to report regularly on progress;
(ii) calls on States to respond promptly and fully to the CTC’s requests
for information, comments and questions in full and on time, and
instructs the CTC to inform the Council of progress, including any
difficulties it encounters;
(iii) requests the CTC in monitoring the implementation of resolution
1373 (2001) to bear in mind all international best practices, codes
and standards which are relevant to the implementation of
resolution 1373 (2001), and underlines its support for the CTC’s
approach in constructing a dialogue with each State on further
action required to fully implement resolution 1373 (2001);
5. States should assist each other to improve their capacity to prevent and fight
terrorism, and notes that such cooperation will help facilitate the full and
timely implementation of resolution 1373 (2001), and invites the CTC to step
up its efforts to facilitate the provision of technical and other assistance by
developing targets and priorities for global action;
6. States must ensure that any measure taken to combat terrorism comply with all
their obligations under international law, and should adopt such measures in
accordance with international law, in particular international human rights,
refugee, and humanitarian law;
7. International organizations should evaluate ways in which they can enhance
the effectiveness of their action against terrorism, including by establishing
dialogue and exchanges of information with each other and with other relevant
international actors, and directs this appeal in particular to those technical
agencies and organizations whose activities relate to the control of the use of
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ANNEX "13"
04-54282 (E)
*0454282*
S/RES/1566 (2004)
religions and cultures, and addressing unresolved regional conflicts and the full
range of global issues, including development issues, will contribute to international
cooperation, which by itself is necessary to sustain the broadest possible fight
against terrorism,
Reaffirming its profound solidarity with victims of terrorism and their families,
Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations,
1. Condemns in the strongest terms all acts of terrorism irrespective of their
motivation, whenever and by whomsoever committed, as one of the most serious
threats to peace and security;
2. Calls upon States to cooperate fully in the fight against terrorism,
especially with those States where or against whose citizens terrorist acts are
committed, in accordance with their obligations under international law, in order to
find, deny safe haven and bring to justice, on the basis of the principle to extradite
or prosecute, any person who supports, facilitates, participates or attempts to
participate in the financing, planning, preparation or commission of terrorist acts or
provides safe havens;
3. Recalls that criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with the
intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages, with the purpose
to provoke a state of terror in the general public or in a group of persons or
particular persons, intimidate a population or compel a government or an
international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act, which constitute
offences within the scope of and as defined in the international conventions and
protocols relating to terrorism, are under no circumstances justifiable by
considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or
other similar nature, and calls upon all States to prevent such acts and, if not
prevented, to ensure that such acts are punished by penalties consistent with their
grave nature;
4. Calls upon all States to become party, as a matter of urgency, to the
relevant international conventions and protocols whether or not they are a party to
regional conventions on the matter;
5. Calls upon Member States to cooperate fully on an expedited basis in
resolving all outstanding issues with a view to adopting by consensus the draft
comprehensive convention on international terrorism and the draft international
convention for the suppression of acts of nuclear terrorism;
6. Calls upon relevant international, regional and subregional organizations
to strengthen international cooperation in the fight against terrorism and to intensify
their interaction with the United Nations and, in particular, the CTC with a view to
facilitating full and timely implementation of resolution 1373 (2001);
7. Requests the CTC in consultation with relevant international, regional
and subregional organizations and the United Nations bodies to develop a set of best
practices to assist States in implementing the provisions of resolution 1373 (2001)
related to the financing of terrorism;
8. Directs the CTC, as a matter of priority and, when appropriate, in close
cooperation with relevant international, regional and subregional organizations to
start visits to States, with the consent of the States concerned, in order to enhance
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the monitoring of the implementation of resolution 1373 (2001) and facilitate the
provision of technical and other assistance for such implementation;
9. Decides to establish a working group consisting of all members of the
Security Council to consider and submit recommendations to the Council on
practical measures to be imposed upon individuals, groups or entities involved in or
associated with terrorist activities, other than those designated by the
Al-Qaida/Taliban Sanctions Committee, including more effective procedures
considered to be appropriate for bringing them to justice through prosecution or
extradition, freezing of their financial assets, preventing their movement through the
territories of Member States, preventing supply to them of all types of arms and
related material, and on the procedures for implementing these measures;
10. Requests further the working group, established under paragraph 9 to
consider the possibility of establishing an international fund to compensate victims
of terrorist acts and their families, which might be financed through voluntary
contributions, which could consist in part of assets seized from terrorist
organizations, their members and sponsors, and submit its recommendations to the
Council;
11. Requests the Secretary-General to take, as a matter of urgency,
appropriate steps to make the CTED fully operational and to inform the Council by
15 November 2004;
12. Decides to remain actively seized of the matter.
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05-51052 (E)
*0551052*
S/RES/1624 (2005)
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Recalling that all States must cooperate fully in the fight against terrorism, in
accordance with their obligations under international law, in order to find, deny safe
haven and bring to justice, on the basis of the principle of extradite or prosecute,
any person who supports, facilitates, participates or attempts to participate in the
financing, planning, preparation or commission of terrorist acts or provides safe
havens,
1. Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and
appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:
(a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
(b) Prevent such conduct;
(c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible
and relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been
guilty of such conduct;
2. Calls upon all States to cooperate, inter alia, to strengthen the security of
their international borders, including by combating fraudulent travel documents and,
to the extent attainable, by enhancing terrorist screening and passenger security
procedures with a view to preventing those guilty of the conduct in paragraph 1 (a)
from entering their territory;
3. Calls upon all States to continue international efforts to enhance dialogue
and broaden understanding among civilizations, in an effort to prevent the
indiscriminate targeting of different religions and cultures, and to take all measures
as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under
international law to counter incitement of terrorist acts motivated by extremism and
intolerance and to prevent the subversion of educational, cultural, and religious
institutions by terrorists and their supporters;
4. Stresses that States must ensure that any measures taken to implement
paragraphs 1, 2 and 3 of this resolution comply with all of their obligations under
international law, in particular international human rights law, refugee law, and
humanitarian law;
5. Calls upon all States to report to the Counter-Terrorism Committee, as
part of their ongoing dialogue, on the steps they have taken to implement this
resolution;
6. Directs the Counter-Terrorism Committee to:
(a) Include in its dialogue with Member States their efforts to implement this
resolution;
(b) Work with Member States to help build capacity, including through
spreading best legal practice and promoting exchange of information in this regard;
(c) Report back to the Council in twelve months on the implementation of
this resolution.
7. Decides to remain actively seized of the matter.
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OMAR T. GABRIELES
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