Can We Prove That Jesus Was Real Person?
Can We Prove That Jesus Was Real Person?
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As
we
can
see
there
are
many
“scholars”
today
and
a
much
larger
group
of
internet
commenters
that
maintain
that
Jesus
never
existed.
Proponents
of
this
position
claim
that
Jesus
is
purely
a
mythical
figure
invented
or
at
the
very
least
copycatted
by
the
New
Testament
authors.
Here
are
three
reasons
why
I
am
assured
that
Jesus
of
Nazareth
was
a
real
person.
1.
“JESUS
MYTHERS”
HAVE
NO
HISTORICAL
BACKING
Explanation:
There
have
been
those
who
claim
that
most
historian,
both
Christian
and
secular,
do
not
really
believe
that
Jesus
was
a
historical
person.
People
who
hold
to
this
belief
could
be
referred
to
as
“Jesus
Mythers.”
These
small
number
of
researchers
have
painstakingly
attempted
to
promote
the
unverified
belief
that
Jesus
never
existed.
These
theories
are
based
on
an
abuse
of
source
documents,
an
incredible
lack
of
scholarly
research,
and
just
in
general
bad
scholarship.
They
make
some
seriously
flawed
claims:
a. Claim
#1:
None
of
the
contemporaries
of
Jesus
confirm
the
resurrection
or
wrote
about
Jesus.
Explanation
of
Claim:
Jesus
Myther
claims
that
the
historical
sources
are
secondary
at
best.
They
claim
that
Paul
was
a
contemporary
of
the
Apostles
and
not
of
Jesus
and
he
only
saw
a
risen
Christ
in
a
vision
but
not
in
person.
Refutation:
Paul
was
a
high
ranking
Pharisee
before
his
conversion.
He
studied
at
Jerusalem
under
Gamaliel.
It
is
unlikely
that
Paul
did
not
debate
with
Jesus
during
his
earthly
ministry.
We
know
Paul’s
history
from
the
book
of
Acts
and
it
would
be
unreasonable
to
perport
that
Paul
was
not
aware
of
what
Christ
was
doing.
Further
proof
that
Paul
was
a
contemporary
of
Jesus
is
that
Luke,
a
companion
of
Paul,
records
Jesus’
encounter
with
the
Pharisees.
Paul
never
seeks
to
contradict
or
correct
Luke’s
record.
The
weight
of
evidence
leans
toward
the
belief
that
Paul
was
in
fact
a
contemporary
of
Jesus.
The
claim
that
none
of
Christ’s
contemporaries
wrote
about
Jesus
or
his
resurrection
is
dubious
at
best.
Consider
the
following
facts
and
think
about
that
claim:
§ Matthew
(disciple
of
Jesus):
eyewitness
account
of
Jesus
§ Mark
(follower
of
Jesus):
eyewitness
account
of
Jesus
§ Luke
(follower
of
Jesus):
Interviewed
eyewitnesses
§ John
(disciple
of
Jesus):
Wrote
the
Gospel
of
John,
1,
2,
3
John,
and
Revelation
which
all
affirm
the
existence
of
Jesus
and
were
all
eyewitness
accounts
§ Peter
(disciple
of
Jesus):
Wrote
2
letters
about
Jesus
and
preached
His
death,
burial,
and
resurrection
§ Paul
(opponent
of
Jesus
converted
upon
meeting
the
risen
Christ):
Wrote
13
books
of
the
NT
b. Claim
#2:
Historical
evidence
is
invalid.
Explanation
of
Claim:
This
claim
starts
with
the
presupposition
that
Christ
didn’t
exist.
This
presupposition
leads
them
to
conclude
that
any
historical
documents
saying
Christ
did
exist
are
clearly
flawed
and
should
be
thrown
out.
Refutation:
The
presupposition
that
led
them
to
throw
out
historical
records
is
unfounded.
No
credible
historian
would
side
step
such
a
mountain
of
evidence.
Jesus
is
probably
the
most
well
established
figure
in
the
history
of
mankind.
When
we
look
at
the
documentation
of
Jesus
as
a
real
historical
figure
we
see
that
it
is
far
more
reliable
than
just
about
every
other
accepted
historical
work.
Ancient
Writing2
Extant
Manuscripts
Homer’s
Illiad
643
Sophocles
(combined
writings)
100-‐193
Aristotle
(combined
writings)
49
Tacitus
(A.D.
56-‐117)
20
Caesar’s
Galactic
Wars
10
Euripides
9
Herodotus
(484-‐425
B.C.)
8
Thucydides
8
Plato
(428-‐348
B.C.)
7
Catallus
(84-‐54
B.C.)
3
New
Testament
Greek
MSS
5,752
(as
of
Dec.
2008)
New
Testament
Latin
MSS
10,000+
Quotes
from
Church
father
before
A.D.
325
32,000
quotations
Quotes
from
Church
fathers
in
all
MSS
Over
1
million
quotations
Ancient
Writing3
Earliest
Complete
Manuscript
Josephus
–
Antiquities
1,300
years
after
author
died
Tacitus
–
Annals
800
years
after
author
died
Caesar
–
Gallic
Wars
900
years
after
author
died
New
Testament
300
years
after
author
died
While
the
Jesus
Mythers
make
the
claim
that
the
NT
is
not
a
good
historical
source,
they
will
have
to
forget
Socrates,
Plato,
Aristotle,
and
Euripides.
They
will
have
to
ignore
that
Josephus,
Tacitus,
and
Caesar’s
works
are
all
older
than
the
NT
works
we
have
available
to
us.
The
uncomfortable
fact
they
will
have
to
face
is
that
the
NT
writers
are
attributed
to
real
mean
who
lived,
ate
and
worked.
They
are
all
better
sources
than
the
other
ancient
works.
The
bulk
of
the
evidence
weighs
heavily
in
the
favor
of
those
who
claim
that
Jesus
was
a
real
person.
c. Claim
#3:
Christianity
finds
its
roots
in
mythology
Explanation
of
Claim:
Jesus
mythers
claim
that
certain
gospel
stories
carry
similar
attributes
to
those
of
dying-‐and-‐rising-‐gods,
demi-‐gods,
or
other
divine
men
such
as
Mithra.
The
key
mythycist
argument
is
that
Jesus
is
a
loosely
based
story
of
Mithraism,
an
ancient
Pagan
religion.
The
claim
is
basically
that
Mithra
was
born
of
a
Virgin
on
Dec.
25th,
he
had
12
disciples
celebrated
Eucharist,
was
called
“Messiah,”
was
crucified
then
buried
in
a
tomb,
and
finally
rose
again
on
the
3rd
day.
Best
selling
book
The
Davinci
Code
makes
this
stunning
claim,
“Nothing
in
Christianity
is
original.
The
pre-‐Christian
God
Mithras
–
called
the
Son
of
God
and
the
Light
of
the
World
–
was
born
on
December
25,
died,
was
buried
in
a
rock
tomb,
and
then
resurrected
in
three
days.”4
2
Statistics
on
Classical
writings
from
F.F.
Bruce,
The
New
Testament
Documents:
Are
They
Reliable
(Downers
Grove:
InterVarsity
Press,
1972),
16-‐17;
Bruce
Metzger,
The
New
Text
of
the
New
Testament
(Oxford:
Oxford
University
Press,
1968),
34.
3
Ibid.
4
Dan
Brown,
The
Davinci
Code
(New
York:
Anchor
Books,
2009),
232.
Refutation:
These
claims
are
some
of
the
most
factually
base
claims
every
made.
Very
little
is
recorded
in
history
about
Mithraism.
What
we
do
have
recorded
makes
it
clear
that
Jesus
is
not
a
story
ripped
off
from
Mithraism.
Notice
what
the
Encyclopedia
Britannica
has
to
say:
“There
is
little
notice
of
the
Persian
god
[Mithra]
in
the
Roman
world
until
the
beginning
of
the
2nd
century,
but,
from
the
year
AD
136
onward,
there
are
hundreds
of
dedicatory
inscriptions
to
Mithra.
This
renewal
of
interest
is
not
easily
explained.
The
most
plausible
hypothesis
seems
to
be
that
Roman
Mithraism
was
practically
a
new
creation,
wrought
by
a
religious
genius
who
may
have
lived
as
late
as
c.
AD
100
and
who
gave
the
old
traditional
Persian
ceremonies
a
new
Platonic
interpretation
that
enabled
Mithraism
to
become
acceptable
to
the
Roman
world.”5
This
seems
to
indicates
then
that
Mithraism
has
not
inspired
Christianity.
The
Gospel
accounts
of
Jesus
were
written
before
then.
As
for
the
claim
that
Mithra
was
virgin
historical
evidence
suggests
that
the
Roman’s
taught
that
he
was
born
as
an
adult
out
of
a
rock
in
a
cave.
“Wearing
his
Phyrigian
cap,
issues
forth
from
the
rocky
mass.
As
yet
only
his
bare
torso
is
visible,
IN
each
hand
he
raises
aloft
a
lighted
torch
and,
as
an
unusual
detail,
red
flaims
shoot
out
all
around
him
from
the
petra
genetrix.”6
Therefore,
unless
the
rocky
mass
is
a
human
and
virgin,
and
fully
grown
Mithra
is
both
and
adult
and
a
baby,
it
is
quite
deceptive
to
claim
that
this
is
a
Virgin
birth.
There
is
further
no
record
that
Mithra
was
a
great
teacher
with
12
disciples
nor
is
there
evidence
to
suggest
that
Mithras
bodily
rose
from
the
dead.
One
myth
about
Mithra
is
that
he
was
taken
to
paradise
in
a
chariot
alive
and
well
after
he
finished
his
mission
on
earth.
Nothing
is
mentioned
about
a
crucifixion
or
a
resurrection.
CONCLUDING
THOUGHTS
ABOUT
THE
JESUS
MYTHERS
§ Jesus
Mythers
use
the
Logical
fallacy
of
false
cause.
o This
fallacy
is
when
someone
reasons
that
just
because
2
things
exist
side
by
side
one
must
have
caused
the
other.
Mere
coincidence
does
not
prove
causal
connection
and
similiarity
does
not
prove
dependence.
§ Jesus
Mythers
have
a
wrong
chronology.
o All
the
sources
used
about
pagan
religions
to
influence
early
Christianity
are
dated
very
late.
Some
writers
even
quote
from
documents
300
years
later
than
Paul
in
an
effort
to
produce
ideas
that
allegedly
influenced
Paul.
§ Jesus
Mythers
assume
wrongly
that
Paul
would
borrow
from
pagan
religions.
o All
of
the
information
we
have
about
Paul
indicates
that
Paul
would
never
allow
himself
to
be
influenced
by
pagan
sources.
2. EVEN
CRITICS
OF
THE
BIBLE
ADMIT
THAT
JESUS
LIVED
Explanation:
Even
those
critical
scholars
who
spend
their
time
ripping
the
very
heart
out
of
the
Word
of
God
admit
that
Christ
was
in
fact
a
historical
person:
a. Gunther
Bornkamm
–
“To
doubt
the
historical
existence
of
Jesus
at
all
.
.
.
was
reserved
for
an
unrestrained
tendentious
criticism
of
modern
times
into
which
it
is
not
worthwhile
to
enter
here.”7
5
Enclyclopedia
Britannica,
Article
Entry:
Mithraism
2004
edition.
6
Fran
Cumon,
“The
Dura
Mithraeum”
in
John
R
Hinnells
(ed.),
Mithraic
Studies:
Proceedings
of
the
First
International
Congress
of
MIthraic
Studies
(Manchester
University
Press,
1975),
173.
b. Will
Marxsen
–
“I
am
of
the
opinion
(and
it
is
an
opinion
shared
by
every
serious
historian)
that
the
theory
[‘that
Jesus
never
lived,
that
he
was
purely
a
mythical
figure’]
is
historically
untenable.”8
c. Rudolf
Bultmann
–
“Of
course
the
doubt
as
to
whether
Jesus
really
existed
is
unfounded
and
not
worth
refutation.
No
sane
person
can
doubt
that
Jesus
stands
as
founder
behind
the
historical
movement
whose
first
distinct
stage
is
represented
by
the
oldest
Palestinian
community.”9
d. Michael
Grant
–
“To
sum
up,
modern
critical
methods
fail
to
support
the
Christ-‐myth
theory.
It
has
‘again
and
again
been
answered
and
annihilated
by
first-‐rank
scholars.’
In
recent
years
‘no
serious
scholar
has
ventured
to
postulate
the
non-‐historicity
of
Jesus’
–
or
at
any
rate
very
few,
and
they
have
not
succeeded
in
disposing
of
the
much
stronger,
indeed
very
abundant,
evidence
to
the
contrary.”10
So
why
is
it
that
even
liberal
and
critical
scholars
of
the
New
Testament
accept
and
agree
that
Jesus
was
a
real
historical
figure?
Because,
the
facts
are
just
to
stacked
up
to
say
anything
to
the
contrary.
There
is
no
serious
debate
among
the
vast
majority
of
scholars
in
the
fields
related
to
the
question
of
the
existence
of
Jesus.
The
view
that
Jesus
existed
is
held
by
virtually
every
scholarly
expert
on
the
planet.
3. ACCEPTED
EXTRA-‐BIBLICAL
SOURCES
ACKNOWLEDGE
JESUS’
EXISTENCE
Explanation:
Where
is
the
proof
from
non-‐Biblical
sources
that
tells
us
that
Jesus
is
indeed
a
real
person?
Although
the
NT
is
full
of
quotes
that
claim
that
Christ
is
the
Son
of
God
who
really
did
live
on
earth
many
are
still
reluctant
to
believe
what
it
says
unless
they
see
some
independent
testimony.
The
fact
is
that
there
is
collateral
proof
available
to
us
that
proves
Christ
really
did
exist.
“Religious
fanatics
want
people
to
switch
off
their
own
minds,
ignore
the
evidence,
and
blindly
follow
a
holy
book
based
upon
private
'revelation'.”
–
Richard
Dawkins
a. Evidence
from
Tacitus
Historian
Edwin
Yamauchi
calls
this
“probably
the
most
important
reference
to
Jesus
outside
of
the
New
Testament.”11
Tacitus
in
A.D.
64
about
the
rumors
spread
about
Nero
burning
Rome
makes
the
report:
§ “Nero
fastened
the
guilt
.
.
.
on
a
class
of
hated
for
their
abominations,
called
Christians
by
the
populace.
Christus,
from
whom
the
name
had
its
origin,
suffered
the
extreme
penalty
during
the
reign
of
Tiberius
at
the
hands
of
.
.
.
Pontius
Pilot,
and
a
most
mischievous
superstition,
thus
checked
for
the
moment,
again
broke
out
not
only
in
Judaea,
the
first
source
of
the
evil,
but
even
in
Rome
.
.
.”12
From
this
we
can
note
a
few
important
things:
§ Tacitus
reports
Christian
derived
their
name
from
a
historical
person
called
Christus
(from
the
Latin)
or
Christ.
§ Christ
is
said
to
have
“suffered
the
extreme
penalty,”
most
probably
referring
to
the
Roman
method
of
execution
known
as
crucifixion.
§ The
crucifixion
of
Christ
is
said
to
have
been
done
during
the
reign
of
Tiberius
and
was
administered
by
Pontius
Pilot.
7
Günther
Bornkamm,
Jesus
of
Nazareth,
Translated
by
I.
and
F.
McLuskey
with
J.
M.
Robinson
(New
York,
p.
200.
11
Edwin
Yamauchi,
quoted
in
Lee
Strobel,
The
Case
for
Christ
(Grand
Rapids:
Zondervan,
1998),
82.
12
Tacitus,
Annals
15.44,
cited
in
Strobel,
The
Case
for
Christ,
82.
Conclusion:
All
of
this
witness
confirms
what
the
Gospels
tell
us
about
the
death
of
Christ.
b. Evidence
from
Josephus
Outside
of
the
Bible
there
are
perhaps
no
more
remarkable
references
to
Jesus
than
those
found
in
the
writings
of
Josephus.
One
two
occasions
in
his
Jewish
Antiquities,
he
mentions
Jesus.
The
authenticity
of
one
(Testimonium
Flavianum)
is
debated,
but
the
account
of
the
execution
of
James
is
accepted.
He
calls
James,
“the
brother
of
Jesus
who
was
called
Christ.”13
The
brief
reference
of
James
is
helpful
but
is
the
astonishing
statement
in
Testimonium
Flavianum
that
is
particularly
relevant.
§ “About
this
time
there
lived
Jesus,
a
wise
man,
if
indeed
one
ought
to
call
him
a
man.
For
he
.
.
.
wrought
surprising
feats.
.
.
.
He
was
the
Christ.
When
Pilate
.
.
.
condemned
him
to
be
crucified,
those
who
had
.
.
.
come
to
love
him
did
not
give
up
their
affection
for
him.
On
the
third
day
he
appeared
.
.
.
restored
to
life
.
.
.
And
the
tribe
of
Christians
.
.
.
has
.
.
.
not
disappeared.”14
The
question
that
arises
is
whether
or
not
Josephus,
who
was
not
a
Christian,
would
writes
this
astonishing
passage.
It
seems
likely
that
a
Christian
editor
came
and
added
a
few
choice
phrases
to
what
Josephus
had
already
said
sometime
between
the
3rd
and
4th
century
A.D.
For
example,
the
qualifying
phrase,
“if
indeed
one
ought
to
call
him
a
man”
does
not
appear
to
have
been
written
by
a
careful
historian.
This
phrase
implies
that
Jesus
was
much
more
than
just
a
man.
It
is
also
unlikely
that
Josephus
would
have
so
clearly
stated
that
Jesus
was
the
Christ
or
that
he
resurrected
on
the
third
day.
But
even
if
we
disregard
the
questionable
phrases
in
this
passage
we
are
still
left
with
a
great
deal
of
important
information
about
the
historical
Jesus.
We
read
that
he
performed
amazing
feats
and
that
although
he
was
crucified,
His
followers
continued
their
discipleship
and
were
called
Christians.
Conclusion:
Very
few
scholars
have
questioned
that
Josephus
actually
penned
these
words
which
so
clearly
indicate
that
James
had
a
brother
and
his
name
was
Jesus.
A
rather
detailed
record
emerges
that
harmonizes
with
the
biblical
record.
c. Evidence
from
Pliny
the
Younger
Gaius
Plinius
Caecilius
Secundus
(61A.D.
–
ca.
112
A.D.)
better
known
as
Pliny
the
Younger
was
a
lawyer,
author,
and
magistrate
of
Ancient
Rome.
In
one
of
his
letters,
dated
around
A.D.
112,
he
corresponds
with
the
emperor
Trajan
and
asks
advice
about
the
action
he
should
take
against
the
followers
of
Christ.
At
one
point
in
the
letter
he
relates
this
information
about
the
Christians:
§ “They
were
in
the
habit
of
meeting
on
a
certain
fixed
day
before
it
was
light,
when
they
sang
in
alternate
verses
a
hymn
to
Christ,
as
to
a
god,
and
bound
themselves
by
a
solemn
oath,
not
to
any
wicked
deeds,
but
never
to
commit
any
fraud,
theft
or
adultery,
never
to
falsify
their
word,
nor
deny
a
trust
when
they
should
be
called
upon
to
deliver
it
up;
after
which
it
was
their
custom
to
separate,
and
then
reassemble
to
partake
of
food-‐-‐but
food
of
an
ordinary
and
innocent
kind.”15
This
passage
gives
us
some
important
information
to
chew
on:
13
Josephus,
Antiquities
xx.
200,
cited
in
F.F.
Bruce,
Jesus
and
Christian
Origins
Outside
the
New
Testament
1935),
vol.
II,
X:96,
cited
in
Habermas,
The
Historical
Jesus,
199
§ Not
only
was
Pliny
aware
of
Jesus,
he
also
knew
of
His
followers.
§ Early
church
Christians
met
to
worship
this
Christ.
§ Pliny
was
surprised
that
they
worship
Christ
“as
to
a
god”
which
seems
to
indicate
that
unlike
other
gods
who
were
worshipped,
Christ
was
a
person
who
had
lived
on
earth.
Conclusion:
Pliny
demonstrates
that
the
early
Christians
so
clung
to
a
living
Christ
that
even
under
the
threat
of
execution
they
refused
to
deny
their
faith
in
Jesus.
This
is
remarkable
evidence
of
Jesus’
existence
outside
of
the
Bible.
Conclusion:
Throughout
the
1980s
and
1990s
and
on
into
the
early
part
of
the
21st
century
a
group
of
about
150
critical
scholars
and
layman
met
for
what
they
called
the
“Jesus
Seminar.”
The
seminar
was
under
the
auspices
of
the
Westar
Institute
and
was
founded
in
1985
by
Robert
Funk.
The
seminar
used
votes
with
colored
beads
to
decide
their
collective
view
of
the
historicity,
deeds,
and
sayings
of
Jesus
of
Nazareth.
Their
eventual
reconstruction
of
Jesus
portrayed
him
as
an
itinerate
Hellenistic
Jewish
sage
and
faith
healer
who
preached
a
gospel
of
liberation
from
injustice
in
startling
parables
and
maxims.
The
Seminar
is
well
known
for
placing
the
burden
of
proof
on
those
who
would
advocate
for
the
historicity
of
Jesus
as
the
Gospel’s
described
him.
What
do
we
do
with
such
claims?
If
we
carry
the
burden
of
proof
than
what
is
our
proof?
The
situation
at
Costco
begs
the
question
as
to
whether
or
not
fiction
or
non-‐fiction
are
appropriate
labeling
for
the
Scriptures.
The
events
in
the
New
Testament
were
not
concocted
in
the
minds
of
the
human
authors.
Instead,
they
were
guided
by
the
Holy
Spirit
to
infallibly
record
actual
historical
events.
Most
of
them
died
a
martyr’s
death,
thereby
verifying
the
veracity
of
their
testimony.
There
are
those
who
scoff
at
the
notion
that
the
disciples
became
martyrs
for
their
beliefs.
After
all,
many
people
have
died
for
a
lie.
While
its
true
that
many
people
have
died
believe
in
a
lie
many
have
not
been
in
a
position
to
know
the
truth
about
their
beliefs.
The
disciples
were
in
such
a
position.
They
knew
whether
or
not
Jesus
had
indeed
risen
from
the
dead.
They
knew
whether
or
not
they
were
making
this
message
up.
It
smacks
of
absolutely
dubious
works
to
think
that
the
disciples
would
be
willing
to
become
martyrs
for
a
lie
they
made
up.
Why
would
they
willingly
endure
a
lifetime
of
persecution
and
beatings
if
their
whole
message
were
a
farce?
In
conclusion,
there
is
clearly
many
good
reasons
to
think
that
Jesus
really
did
exist
and
was
the
founder
of
a
religious
sect
in
1st
C.
Palestine.
This
includes
evidence
that
we
have
from
extra-‐Biblical
sources,
the
Church
fathers,
and
the
first-‐hand
testimony
of
the
apostles.
I
understand
that
there
is
much
more
that
can
be
added
to
this
topic
but
I
think
these
three
points
that
we
have
covered
are
a
good
starting
point
for
those
interested
in
the
debate
over
the
historical
Jesus.