Is There Still A Post Soviet Space
Is There Still A Post Soviet Space
Context
The dissolution of the Soviet Union thirty years ago was celebrated by some as victory of
democracy and the West in the Cold War. Inside the former USSR, it produced mixed feelings.
Some met it with euphoria and anticipation that the decades-long isolation from the rest of the
world and limits on personal freedoms had come to an end and that democracy and civil liberties
would be installed in the former republics. Others celebrated the (re-)establishment of
independence of nation states. For yet some other citizens, the Soviet collapse came
unexpectedly and left them apprehensive, fearful of an uncertain future. Subsequent 3000%
inflation and political turmoil of the 1990s left many nostalgic about the seemingly stable and
secure Soviet times.
The International Institute for Peace, jointly with the Konrad Adenauer Foundation for
Multilateral Dialogue, the Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies, and the Institute
for Danube Region and Central Europe organized this conference to look at the former Soviet
states, how they have transformed in the last three decades, and whether one can still put the
countries in this increasingly diverse region under the same umbrella of a ‘post-Soviet space’.
The questions guiding our inquiry could be split in three levels: political, societal and
economical. Through panel discussions and workshops, we aimed to understand what
trajectories the former Soviet republics have taken. What guides their political and economic
development? What regional and global actors do they incline to? What other regional
identities and narratives prevail in public discourses today?
Finally, the European Community (and later the European Union) was immediately affected by
the Soviet breakup. Today the EU includes some of the former Soviet republics, while some
other countries have close cooperation with it and even aspire to full membership. The
conference explored EU relations with the Eastern Neighbors and Russia, discussing the current
challenges and suggesting potential paths for their further development.
The conference brought together researchers, academics, diplomats and practitioners from
post-Soviet countries, Vienna, and the EU. Discussions took place in the format of closed
workshops for invited participants. The keynote speech by a prominent guest and a panel
discussion in the evening of the first conference day was open to the public.
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Table of Contents:
GENERAL CONCLUSIONS
• The term ‘post-Soviet space’ can be problematic and it is difficult to identify a coherent
region that can definitively be called the post-Soviet space. On the one hand, there
clearly is a post-Soviet space in geographical and historical terms. At the same time,
today one can discern many various clusters in this area based on different levels of
industrialization, predominance of the oil industry or agriculture in the economy,
different levels of democracy/authoritarianism, corruption and oligarchism. There are
some common trends too, such as common security challenges and the uniquely
dominant role of Russia for these countries. Also, the great internal debate (or conflict)
about geopolitical orientation and models of internal development plays a huge role in
many of these countries.
• The term Homo-Sovieticus is a vague archetype that cannot really be applied to the
countries of the former Soviet Union coherently. However, again there are some
common trends, such as the role of networks in these countries and hybrid illiberal
democratic systems. Nevertheless, in many countries a lot of citizens still share a sense
of nostalgia about the Soviet Union.
• Azerbaijan is returning IDPs to the territories under its control. The result might be that
Nagorno Karabakh as a separate entity/de-facto state will cease to exist. Despite the
military defeat, Armenians went on to re-elect the pro-democracy party of Nikol
Pashinyan, as opposed to Karabakh hardliners. The concept of transitional sovereignty
has become relevant for Nagorno Karabakh in this new situation because of the
problems associated with transitional justice after the war.
• While Russia sees social movements in Belarus and Ukraine through a similar
geopolitical lens, regarding the countries as its legitimate sphere of influence, the
movements’ nature and root causes are fundamentally different. Ukraine’s foreign
policy has set EU and NATO integration as the country’s strategic goal, with the conflict
in the east perceived as Russian attempts to prevent Kyiv from achieving it. Belarus has
not faced a geopolitical divide in the society. The political crisis after the 2020
presidential elections did not initially have a geopolitical dimension but concerned
domestic questions of governance and institutions. Even today Belarusian society would
most likely prefer to avoid choosing sides (West or Russia). The Lukashenka regime
has however clearly opted for Russian support, whatever the cost.
• Ukraine is the main area of contest between Russia and the West. Russia is a neo-
imperialist power with grand designs on Eastern Europe, but the West must seek a
dialogue with Russia and try to foster deeper integration without antagonising Russia’s
sense of security. Both Russia and the West need to engage in a more understanding
dialogue. Right now, both sides are talking past each other and dialogue platforms like
the OSCE fail to facilitate solutions.
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• Unlike with other former Soviet republics that Russia considers its sphere of influence
and opposes their aspirations for EU and NATO membership, the Baltic states are now
part of the EU and NATO and this fact is also accepted by Russia.
• In Central Asia, the War in Afghanistan and the Taliban takeover presents a significant
security threat to the region. The Central Asian states are debating over who can provide
them security, and if they should create their own integration project or join Russia in
the EAEU and CSTO.
INTRODUCTION
When asked about the consequences of the French Revolution, a Chinese diplomat once
famously said that it was too early to tell. 30 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union and
communism in Eastern Europe, in many ways it is also too early to tell exactly what the
consequences of this dramatic event are. One can nevertheless ask a number of questions: is
there still a post-Soviet space? How can one compare post-Soviet countries? And how will the
post-Soviet space, if it even exists, look in the future? By exploring many different areas of the
so-called post-Soviet space, including the politics, societies, identities, economies and cultures
in the countries of the former Soviet Union, perhaps some of these questions may be answered.
the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) is also an important contributor to the post-
Soviet geopolitical reality. Additionally, there are great variations between countries caused by
numerous factors, including size of population, language and religion. Identity, too, is open to
manipulation, with common history being promoted through identity projects.
Russia since 1991 has been trying to adapt to the rules of the game in terms of democratisation
and economic transformation. Under Vladimir Putin, Russia has gradually changed its
institutional framework from democratic to authoritarian, suiting the centralised oligarchical
system under the President. In the 1990s Russian society wanted democracy, but as the years
went by and failure after failure occurred, the people more and more sought a return to the
Soviet system. By 1999 49% of Russians wanted a return to the Soviet system, while at that
point barely 16% were in favour of a western system for Russia. Nowadays the Russian people
are not looking to return to the Soviet era, but they are looking for some kind of utopia, neither
western nor Soviet. Stable regimes do not change and escape from the current system is not
possible. As such, people feel it is better for them to be quiet.
In Ukraine the oligarchic model of politics had been sustainable until 2014. Russian aggression
and the annexation of Crimea and separatism in eastern parts of Ukraine has dramatically
changed views on Russia, so that now most Ukrainians are either pro-EU or nationalists. The
country is also in the grips of a so-called ‘Crimea Syndrome’, whereby the question of Crimea
and Ukraine’s eastern separatist regions are at the centre of the country’s political agenda. Many
also do not think NATO and EU membership is a realistic prospect for Ukraine.
Azerbaijan has also gone through an identity crisis since it gained independence. Azerbaijanis
recall positively the two brief years of democracy between the Russian Revolution and the
establishment of the USSR. Since 1991, nostalgia for the USSR has been driven by frustration
with western oil companies. The revival of Islamic identity in Azerbaijan contrasts against the
legacy of Soviet atheism so that one can see Islamic
Today Moldova is a bright shops and wine shops on opposite sides of the street.
spot of democracy and there Iranian religious propaganda is also a problem in terms
of radicalisation.
are high hopes that things
will improve and the rule of Moldova has experienced recent success for pro-EU
law will be strengthened. political forces after a long period of oligarchic control
and deep public mistrust in governance. Today
Moldova is a bright spot of democracy and there are
high hopes that things will improve and the rule of law will be strengthened. Domestic issues
are now the priority over geopolitical orientation. However, although the kleptocrats have left
the country, their benign influence remains and they still have links to the judiciary and
government, and this remains Moldova’s biggest challenge.
The biggest external drivers in the Moldovan economy have been the Association Agreement
with the EU and the large diaspora, which plays a crucial role in remittances, as well as its
participation in elections. Internally, civil society and media shape public opinion and bring to
light non-democratic practices, which has led to political aggression against civil society.
Kleptocrats still control the media, while the large (~30%) Russian-speaking population and
the Russian Orthodox Church (~80%) are also powerful actors in the country. Politics are more
internally driven than externally, with a focus on reforms. The governing party has been
inclusive, being neither pro-EU nor pro-Russian, which has led to deeper trust in society.
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legally recognised as parts of the USSR by western countries, distinguish them from other post-
Soviet states. After 1991 Latvia was largely a mix of three broad groups of people. The first
group are Latvians who have lived their whole lives in Latvia (including during the Soviet
period). The second group consists of returnees – some of the ~100,000 people who emigrated
from Latvia before or during the Soviet period and their descendants who have returned to
Latvia. This group can hardly be called post-Soviet. The third group is those immigrants who
came to Latvia during the Soviet period from other parts of the USSR. The Soviet mentality
persisted among this group and they have had to integrate into Latvia (or Estonia or Lithuania),
and they primarily speak Russian as their main language. Things have largely changed since
2004, when Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania joined the EU, and integration means these categories
are no longer relevant. Today only 15% of people in Latvia identify as non-Latvian, and for
them it is merely a personal choice to remain separate from the rest of society.
In Uzbekistan there is a generational divide in post-Soviet identity. With already two
generations separating those who grew up in the USSR to young people today, the youth (and
often even their parents) know little about how life was during the USSR. Therefore, to speak
of a coherent Homo-Sovieticus is irrelevant.
When speaking of a post-Soviet space, although primarily describing a common geographic
area, another common element to be found within many former Soviet states is the socio-
economic system. Elements of the kind of hybrid illiberal democratic system that can be found
in many post-Soviet states can also be found in other post-communist countries, like Hungary.
the situation today is unstable, as there are shootings every day and constant border disputes.
The area is controlled by Russian peacekeepers. The future of Nagorno-Karabakh is bleak, as
it may end up becoming like Abkhazia – another Russian garrison. One can also expect Russia
to justify an extension to having its troops in Karabakh when the ceasefire agreement ends in
2025.
Armenia has been coming to terms with the new reality that it no longer controls the territory
of Nagorno-Karabakh and the de facto Republic of Artsakh has ceased to exist. However,
Armenia has passed the test of resilience – after the popular uproar after their military defeat in
2020, Armenians went on to re-elect the pro-democracy party of Nikol Pashinyan, as opposed
to Karabakh hardliners. There are some promising international trends: we have seen a
resurrection of the utility of the OSCE Minsk Group for international dialogue, and an
agreement is coming regarding border demarcation between Armenia and Azerbaijan, as well
as railway access. The concept of transitional sovereignty has become relevant in this regard
because of the problems associated with transitional justice after the war. Going forward,
Armenia’s relations with its neighbours will depend on its acceptance of the new reality. A
realistic assessment of its capabilities vis-à-vis Azerbaijan and Turkey, and its dependence on
a Russia that will not actively engage militarily on its side, puts Armenia in a vulnerable position
geopolitically. Normalising relations is now the priority.
For Russia it is important to be seen as a neutral actor in the region, while it engages in a build-
up of power in the South Caucasus, asserting itself as the guarantor of peace and having
complete control over Armenia’s borders. Pashinyan appears to be the opposite of Lukashenka
and can be seen as a trophy on Putin’s shelf. The Karabakh question is not entirely solved yet.
Stepanakert is not under Azerbaijani control and Azerbaijan is unlikely to invest in those areas
of Karabakh it does not control. The EU does not have a coherent policy on the Karabakh issue
and there are differences between the different EU institutions. Moreover, the OSCE cannot be
an effective actor on the Karabakh issue because Russia has a veto in that organisation. The
3+3 (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan + Russia, Iran, Turkey) format for dialogue is a non-starter
for Armenia due to the role of Turkey. The role of Georgia as a broker would be welcome by
Armenia, although some in Armenia see Georgia as a rival.
So, what is the outlook for 2050? In an ideal world the South Caucasus would be an
interconnected region, but it is likely the frozen conflicts will not be resolved. In the worst case
there will be no region at all. Georgia will still be applying for NATO membership, and the
Armenia will still be obsessed with its lost territories.
Trade can also be used as leverage by both sides, but one can also look at the example of
economic interdependence between France and Germany as a means of avoiding conflict.
After the collapse of the USSR, all of the problems of state-building had to be solved as quickly
as possible. Thus, questions of national identity, democracy, and minority rights became
immediately necessary to answer as the previous status quo crumbled away. Russia became a
nation-state with an ethnic identity, which sought to protect the many other Russians living
outside its borders. It was (and is) not easy to define exactly what a Russian is. Is it an ethnic
eastern Slav, or is it a citizen of the diverse Russian Federation? In Ukraine and Belarus, the
situation is also complex due to the presence of two languages. In the Baltic States the Russian
language became the main marker of a Russian-speaking identity, in contrast to the titular
ethnicity. Russia’s involvement in its neighbours’ internal affairs due to ethnic concerns varies.
For instance, Russia involves itself to a much greater degree in Ukrainian internal affairs than
in Latvian affairs, despite the presence of large Russian-speaking populations in both countries,
thus masking its own ambitions through ethnic concerns.
internal conflicts and Islamist separatism. Russians were the losers of the collapse of the USSR.
For other republics, becoming independent states was at least some kind of victory.
Russia received little support from the West. It became clear that Russia would not integrate
into the EU or NATO, although this is what some Russians wanted. By 1993 the country had
descended into an oligarchy, with wealth concentrated among a few people at the very top.
Geopolitically, Russia was restrained during this period – it did not intervene in Crimea, in spite
of a majority pro-Russian population, and Russia did not seek any border changes. However,
the drifting of Russia’s western neighbours, especially Ukraine, towards NATO was a
significant concern for Moscow.
1999 saw NATO forces intervene in Kosovo and the first round of NATO expansion into
formerly communist countries (Poland, Czech Republic and Hungary), in spite of strong
Russian opposition. In 2004 NATO expanded again further into Eastern Europe. The Orange
Revolution in Ukraine in 2004 saw Russia’s first foreign intervention since the Soviet collapse.
At the time the EU was paralysed by internal debates between Member States on the adoption
of an EU Constitution. Similarly, NATO had been significantly weakened by the War in Iraq
and shelved plans for Ukrainian accession. At this point Russia’s neo-imperialist plans become
more evident.
Ukraine is the second biggest country in Europe. Yet in Ukraine, the term ‘Europe’ is often
used in a way that suggests Ukraine is not already in Europe, similar to the way ‘Europe’ was
used in pre-Brexit Britain to refer to the EU. Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova represent a split in
the post-Soviet space, such that it could be said the post-Soviet space no longer exists. The
region is now marked by a fight for geopolitical hegemony between the West and Russia. The
conflict in Ukraine should not be seen as a domestic Ukrainian conflict, but as a Ukraine-Russia
conflict. Ukraine is a democracy in the making, with clear western ambitions, while Russia is
trying to rebuild an empire on ethnic nationalism.
Part II
(Moderation: Hannes Swoboda; Panellists: Vasily Astrov; Tinatin Khidasheli; Kristi
Raik; Tatiana Romanova; Sebastian Schäffer)
Estonia was lucky after it regained independence. It went through a process of very rapid
development and by 2004 it had joined the EU and NATO. It lies in a favourable international
environment, with no conflicts. In short, after 50 years of occupation, Estonia’s dreams had
come true, and between 2003 and 2013 Estonia had never been so secure. Since the 2014
annexation of Crimea, there has been a growing great power politics in Europe. Ukraine
becoming pro-western after the Euromaidan in 2014 has been the biggest shift in European
geopolitics. Russia has been becoming increasingly authoritarian, raising the prospect of an
unstable transfer of power in Russia. Moreover, Russia is becoming increasingly defensive and
has been undermining European security by using economic relations as a threat. It is
impossible to predict what could happen.
From the Georgian perspective, it is important to
Georgia has felt invisible to
distinguish between political Europe and geographic
Europe. Georgia very much sees itself as belonging to the West since the 2008 War
the former, though it is geographically in the Caucasus. with Russia.
Georgia has felt invisible to the West since the 2008
War with Russia, wherein Georgia received little
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support from NATO or the EU. Georgia is a place where Russia is contesting the West for
influence, and Russia is trying to show that Georgia belongs to its neighbourhood. For
Georgians, it appears that the EU and NATO have constructed a new Iron Curtain, the countries
beyond which they do not see as their concern. Furthermore, Russian sanctions were a blessing
in disguise for Georgia, as the country was able to strongly diversify its economy and exports
when Russia closed its market to Georgia.
Since 1991 Russia has gradually become more assertive and revisionist, seeking to redefine its
place in the world and its relations with neighbouring countries. It does not seek to be a part of
Europe in the sense that Georgia and Ukraine do, but it seeks to reassert its influence over what
it sees as its own neighbourhood, whereover it lost control in 1991, as well as challenge the
existing rules-based international order. Eastern Europe is the main area of competition in this
regard. In order to find solutions to the current relations, mutual trust must be restored. The
West should not expect to find a partner in a Russia that feels its security is threatened.
International sanctions also do not help. Instead, we should challenge the EU’s monopolisation
of the word ‘Europe’ to make it more inclusive for countries like Russia. Currently, however,
there is no long-term vision for better relations with Russia, and there is no incentive for Russia
to change.
Economically speaking, while still doing better than
In terms of cooperation on some other post-Soviet states, Russia has not been a big
shared challenges, it success, and Ukraine has been an economic disaster.
appears that even the Covid- Russia and Belarus do not currently have economic
19 pandemic is not an agreements with the EU. Economic integration with
important enough issue for Russia would improve relations between the two sides,
serious cooperation. but greater integration would have to be in the form of
a common economic space, as Russia could not
become an EU member.
Some other suggestions for improving relations include: Russia respecting the sovereign
decisions of other countries; fostering a common and inclusive notion of ‘Europe’; a common
security framework that includes Russia; developing a shared and integrated neighbourhood
through economic interdependence; and using the growing threats of climate change as a basis
for cooperation.
The Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) has been unsuccessful at
improving dialogue between Russia and other European countries. The two sides talk past each
other, giving monologues and not understanding the other side. In terms of cooperation on
shared challenges, it appears that even the Covid-19 pandemic is not an important enough issue
for serious cooperation. Russia also has its own unilateral strategies to combat climate change.
production mechanisms. It is also possible to speak of Central Asia as a clear and homogonous
region in and of itself.
In 1991 the collapse strongly affected Central Asia. Many people had little to eat and the people
who held land were in a much better position than others. With the opening of markets, the
Central Asian countries have gone down different and diverging paths of development.
Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan have a large wealth of natural resources, while Tajikistan and
Kyrgyzstan are poorer resource-wise. Kyrgyzstan was able to leave the economic depression
after 1991 behind, but poverty and insecurity are still prevalent under the authoritarian regime.
Post-Soviet identity in Central Asia is relational and depends on people’s lived experiences;
with the more rapid demographic turnover in Central Asia, the youth experience ever less of a
connection to Soviet experiences.
Although the EU treats Central Asia as a region,
the Central Asian states are in reality more The Central Asian states are
disintegrated than integrated. The Central Asian currently questioning whether
countries vary in the degree to which they are or not they should recognise
consolidated authoritarian or free states. The EU and engage with the new
has been present in all the Central Asian states Taliban government in
since the 1990s and it has delegations present in
Afghanistan.
all countries. The EU has diverse interests in the
region, revolving mainly around energy
resources and security, and the EU is a normative actor, promoting a democratic space in the
region. As a soft-power actor the EU has funded border management and integration projects,
promoted regional security dialogue and fostered political dialogue and negotiation among
Central Asian states and Afghanistan. The EU also has a strong economic presence in Central
Asia. It has been Kazakhstan’s top economic partner in recent years, and Kyrgyzstan and
Uzbekistan are both a part of the EU’s Generalised Scheme of Preference (GSP+) framework
for trade, giving them preferential access to the EU’s single market, conditional upon fulfilment
of certain criteria.
The recent crisis in Afghanistan has changed the security environment in Central Asia, leading
to increased challenges. The Central Asian states are currently questioning whether or not they
should recognise and engage with the new Taliban government in Afghanistan, though
Tajikistan already rejected contact with the Taliban. Uzbekistan does have contacts with the
Taliban and has invited representatives to Tashkent for discussions.
Security in Central Asia is multifaceted. The War in Afghanistan and the recent takeover by the
Taliban presents a significant security threat to Central Asia, especially to those in close
proximity to Afghanistan. There are already more than 15,000 refugees in Tajikistan, but there
has thus far been no high-level meeting between EU and Central Asian leaders to discuss
Afghanistan. Water security, too, is a significant security challenge, as well as border security.
There is a strong regionalism dimension in Central Asia. One cannot separate the discussion
into separate states – the wider region must be discussed when analysing these countries. The
region has become a new geopolitical battlefield amongst the great powers; China, Russia and
the United States all have strong interests in Central Asia, but for different reasons. It can be
seen as a key area in the ‘great game’, with external great powers and the Central Asian states
themselves playing various roles.
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A key question in Central Asian security debates today is whether or not security can be
effectively provided by the Common Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO), the Russian-led
security bloc that already includes Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Democracy is
something of an alien concept in Central Asia. Although it is de jure recognised, in practice
democratic governance in Central Asia is weak and the elites justify prolonging
authoritarianism through security challenges.
Ecological issues and the climate emergency are high priorities in Central Asia. Since 2016
there have been consultative meetings between the heads of state of the Central Asian states.
These consultative meetings have included clauses on the climate, including the drying up of
the Aral Sea, for which an Aral Sea Salvation Committee was established. Such ecological
issues require regional cooperation and they have become the main priorities in the Central
Asian states’ security visions, along with issues such as terrorism and extremism.
There is a somewhat superficial perception in Central Asia that a security umbrella can be
provided by Russia and an economic umbrella can be provided by China. Relations with China
are a growing concern, as the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) has generated debate
among Sinophiles and Sinophobes. But developments are ongoing and the space is not static.
Relations with all neighbours are multifaceted, but it is security, in all its various forms, that
dominates the geopolitical landscape.
Central Asia is standing at a crossroads, facing a dilemma on its future choices. The question
remains for each country whether they should join the Russian-led Eurasian Economic Union
(EAEU), or even whether the Central Asian states should form their own regional integration
project, but the different models are exclusionary. For years integration was frozen, but there
has been a breakthrough in cooperation. Overall, the security situation is very complex, and
some big questions remain unanswered.
times of economic crisis it is Russian workers who bear the brunt, as the Russian government
cannot cushion welfare losses in any major way.
Demographically speaking, it does to a certain extent make sense to refer to a ‘post-Soviet
space’, but not including the Baltic States. It makes more sense to categorise the former Soviet
Union into smaller regions: Baltic States; Eastern Europe; South Caucasus; Central Asia; and
Russia. Some regions are experiencing a significant population decline, such as the Baltic
States, Eastern Europe and parts of the South Caucasus, which have a higher mortality rate and
lower fertility rates. In contrast, the populations of the Islamic former Soviet republics are
growing, with fertility rate above the replacement rate of 2. In part, this could be due to the
higher prevalence of traditional gender roles.
The role of migration in post-Soviet space demographics is also significant. In terms of
international migration, Russia and Kazakhstan have been the largest migrant-receivers, due
primarily to lower costs and the common language. Seasonal migration comes from Central
Asia (primarily low-skilled workers in construction, trade, and service sector), and remittances
from Russia make up a significant part of a number of post-Soviet economies. Moreover, there
is a lot of temporary or permanent emigration from Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Armenia and
Georgia, which also has a large impact on these countries’ demographics. On the other hand,
internal migration, while not as dynamic as international migration, has resulted in large rural-
to-urban migration, primarily to the capital cities. However, underdeveloped public services
and a large skills gap, as well as violent conflict, are significant barriers to internal migration.
In 1991, overall levels of happiness in the former Soviet Union fell along with the fall in GDP
per capita. There was a huge decline in life satisfaction until the mid-1990s, and although GDP
per capita began increasing thereafter, levels of life satisfaction have been slower to catch up.
One key factor that can help largely explain the disparity in levels of life satisfaction between
advanced and developing economies has been the quality of institutions. Although the collapse
of the USSR saw one of the biggest drops in living standards ever recorded, in some parts of
the former Soviet Union former Communist Party members and their informants were better
off than their counterparts, although in the Baltic States and Central and Eastern Europe this
was the opposite.
The conference was held on 15-16 November 2021. The workshops took place under the
Chatham House rule. They were attended by academics and policy experts from Eastern
Europe, Central Asia, South Caucasus, Russia, and the EU. The panel discussion in the evening
was open to the public. Its recording can be accessed here. Other materials from the conference
are available here. The organizers would like to thank all participants for their active
engagement and valuable inputs.