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In Colombia as in the rest of Latin America (Bastide, 1970; Wade, 1970; Muteba Rahier,
1998), the official image of national identity has been developed by the white and mestizo-white
elites on the basis of the notion of mestizaje, understood as “whitening” through racial mixing
that makes racial and ethnic diversity invisible. In this context, blackness has not been taken into
account as an integral part of a hierarchy in the Colombian society that places whiteness at the
top and blackness at the bottom. In this article I will describe blackness blackness1 as an
important element of the national cultural topography and Colombia as a multicultural and
pluriethnic nation. In particular, I am interested in exploring the relations between blacks and
nonblacks in Colombia through certain very revealing implicit facets of these relations: the
imaginaries based on the eroticism and sensuality of black people in which not only nonblacks
Much has been said about white‟s fascination with black people and particularly with the
eroticism and sensuality of black women. However, there has hardly ever been an examination of
sensual pleasure. Do they consider it negative, or do they give it positive value? And, if the latter,
conceptions?
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To answer these questions, I will use information from two sources: the preliminary
results of an investigation of the black identities of males from middle-class sectors of Quibdó,
the capital of Chocó, one of the country‟s poorest regions and predominantly black, and the
analysis of two group interviews2 realized in Bogotá with Chocoan males (aged 20-36 years) and
females (aged 18-26) who were pursuing or had acquired higher education. Including the latter
was an attempt to understand the relation between blacks and nonblacks in a place where, as
Claudia Mosquera (1998) says, repeating a phrase often heard in Bogotá, "Before, we never used
to see blacks."
unverbalized (Sumpf and Hugues 1973), and are transmitted and received through the mass
media of communication or the social milieu. "Their first and most evident characteristic is their
capacity to introduce themselves into daily life" (Barreto, quoted in Mosquera, 1998:69).
Although stereotypes are said to be homogeneous and resistant to change, in practice their
Racial stereotypes and prejudices about black people have a long history not only in the
Americans but also in Europe. As Pinzón and Garay (1997) argue, when the African slaves
arrived in the Americas, they already occupied a position in the regional colonial imaginary.
Even before the Spanish conquest this imaginary had been fed by images of blacks produced in
Europe, rooted in the commercial journeys and conquests undertaken in Africa, and it was made
more complicated by the experience of slavery. Christian symbolism also contributed to the
association of black with bad and white with good. In Christian iconography the devil was
represented with black skin, while saints, virgins, and angels were represented with white skin.
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At the same time, the sexual powers attributed to black people were perceived as a threat to the
Roger Bastide, Le prochain et le lointain written (1970 [1958]) refers to the sexual
noirs." He argues that it is precisely in these privileged moments of sexual relations or the
courtship that precedes them that racism appears to be challenged and the unity of the human
species is rediscovered. Racism, whether covert or explicit, is eluded. From his point of view, the
meeting of two bodies takes place in a social context in which bodies are endowed with
collective memory. Bastide suggests that interracial sexual encounters do not often take place in
a context of respect and equality between the sexes. Instead, they are based on stereotypes about
black women as objects of pleasure and easy victims for white men and about black men as more
We must ask ourselves, however, whether Bastide's assertions, based on his experience in
Brazil in the 1970s, are valid for Colombia in the late 1990s. I agree with Peter Wade's that
Bastide's rhetoric is excessive when he describes the sexual encounter between blacks and whites
as "the meeting of two races in a struggle to the death." Drawing on his study on interracial
relations in Medellín, Wade argues that wheres in Brazil Bastide found that the question “race”
always produced the answer “sex,” in Colombia this association is possible but not obligatory. In
contract to the strong antagonism in interracial sexual relations to which Bastide refers, Wade
reports many formal marriages in addition to the classic models of racial mixing in which white
men informally live with black women or mulatas.3 However, he acknowledges that in certain
circumstances the ideas expressed about black sexuality "indicate a strong connection between
race and sex in people's minds, particularly when white men refer to women" (1997: 365). It is
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also very common for nonblack males, including intellectuals, to speak of black males as being
obsessed with sex. At the same time, it is undeniable that there are social hierarchies in the
processes of racial mixing independent of the circumstances in which they take place.
(1997) report that people of African descent in certain rural areas of the Spanish-speaking
American continent and parts of the Caribbean are distinguished from mestizos, indigenous
people, and whites who surround them in terms of body posture, gestures, and language rhythms
that they themselves recognize as the most potent markers of their distinct identity. These also
constitute the most resistant subtext of the Afro-American collective memory. Drinking seems to
underlie all collective rites. It is seen and learned from an early age both in the areas of masculine
socializing and in dances that are the privileged spaces for meetings between the sexes. Both
tolerance of alcohol and generosity in offering it to others are considered signs of virility. The
dancing.
Bastide (1970), Losonczy (1997), Wade (1997), among others, point out that, historically,
music, dance, and religious celebrations have been important cultural foci for black people. In
Colombia, music and dance have been constitutive nuclei of black identity and elements by
which black people have been perceived and judged by mestizo and white-mestizos from the
interior of the country. Although black music has been incorporated into the musical repertoire of
Colombian society and is particularly attractive for its Dionysian impulse, this does not mean that
the relationship between white and black society is unambivalent. On the one hand the black
world is considered primitive, underdeveloped, and morally inferior, but on the other hand it is
considered powerful and superior in the areas of dance, music, and the amatory arts. However,
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this superiority refers to areas that have been devalued from various perspectives: morally,
because the body has been considered a territory of sin; materially, because these skills do not
generate economic wealth; and symbolically, because on the dominant value scale the physical is
Therefore, let us look at some of the responses of our interviewees to the imaginary
constructed around them, taking into account the attraction of white society to some
characteristics of the black world, and the responses of black people within a context of
domination-resistance—that is, the superior position of white society from the economic and
political point of view and the use of music and dance by black people as cultural forms of
The interviewees, men and women, report that the need to dance and the talent for it are
in their blood, a distinctive feature of their life.4 With regard to the strength and importance of
this image, it is important to take into account the role of physical and bodily aspects in the
construction of racial discourse and the ideology of racism. It would appear that there is no way
to escape from this essentialization of racial identity and "naturalization" of difference. However,
as is suggested by Wade, this performance is essentially socially constructed and not genetically
produced.
Many of the interviewees expressed some satisfaction with regard to characteristics that
appear to confer on them a certain superiority, which are seen as some compensation for their
defrecited image in the national context. They asked: “Don‟t you like to be complimented? Don't
you like to feel flattered?” and continued: "It‟s something genetic, it‟s in the blood, it‟s how we
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are. The thing is that we black people have the feeling. One of them described the Chocoanos'
One dances because it is the feeling that one has in the blood. From when we are
small, we are born in a country of different folklores, and that strengthens learning
how to dance, to move the body. From when we are children we already know
how to move our waists . . . One sees dancing as recreation in our country, as
something spontaneous, something that is called the feeling, “That guy has the
Interviewees relate to this imaginary by converting it into a positive attribute (cf. Agier, 1992),
thereby inverting the roles of domination. Thus, the ability to dance and to make music is
transformed into a source of superiority with regard to the management of the body. This
resource, used by dominated groups throughout history (for example the feminist movement in
nineteenth-century Europe), is what Agier calls the utilization of "formal homologies of inversion
and over-naturalization of identity." Dionysian tendencies that up to now have been seen as the
opposite of progress and work are transformed into a festive competition of races that produces
culture and marketable diversions (Agier, 1992). This process, which allows for the constitution
of a positive collective identity, is what interviewees are engaging in when they convert the term
niche, a pejorative term used by whites to refer to blacks, into a sign of unity and solidarity
among black people and when they reclaim the term “race” in order to praise the black race‟s
physical, mental, and artistic qualities. In the same way, the association of “black” with
“primitive” is converted into an expression of pure nature, with all the evocative force that this
When the interviewees idealize the way of life of their grandparents, saying that they
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lived sane and happy lives in a paradise and demonstrated their sexual capacities by being able to
live with various partners and have large numbers of children even in their later years, they are
reclaiming a romantic vision of nature and ideas of the “noble savage.” In this connection, one of
them said, "Before, at least in the Chocó, the men were more ardent. In the countryside, a man
had three or four women, and he satisfied all of them, and he had children with all of them. . . . I
have a grandfather who is 96, and the last daughter, I don't know if she is his, is 15 years old, and
he still looks good, and we are about 80 grandchildren." The interviewees speak with nostalgia of
a rural past in which black men displayed their "natural" ardor and consumed natural food5
(without chemical additives) that maintained their physical and sexual potency, which was
Before, in the countryside, the old people over there, all their food was natural. If
they wanted a tomato they used to say, “Go over there and pick a tomato for me
from the roof',” as we say over there in the Chocó. Nowadays they have started to
use pesticides in cultivation, and those are chemicals and that is going to affect a
cell from the virile part one way or the other. I believe that [virility] has been
diminishing little by little . . . but here comes Viagra . . . [laughter] and that has
Some of the interviewees explain this supposed superiority not as a natural attribute but as
In our culture, it is not like it is here [in Bogotá]. Over there [in the Chocó], if you
like a girl, you tell her. It is not like here, where if you want to talk to a girl it has
to be through a friend who introduces you to her, because if you do not know her,
it is impossible to speak to her. On the other hand, over there, one sees a girl for
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the first time and if you like her, you tell her. One proposes and she makes herself
available . . . and there it is it. Over there, a diversion, or being with a girl, is
normal, and one looks for the way to make her feel as good as possible. Over
there, the people live like the climate: hot, agitated. One lives very agitated over
there, and one speaks of “passion” (arrechera),6 and that also influences the way
of dressing. You know how everything enters through the eyes, what is seen, and
the women over there walk around in mini-skirts, in shorts, in boob-tubes, and all
of that influences things. Here in Bogotá one has to walk around covered up
because of the climate. Here, with everything covered up, seeing someone doesn‟t
envoke anything, it doesn‟t send any messages to the brain—it doesn‟t send the
From the moment that one is born, from when one is a boy, one has knowledge of
women. It is not like here, where the children have less knowledge and get to
know about women from when they are about 12 or more. On the other hand, over
there, from the time when one is a boy, one already has the curiosity to touch a
girl, to touch a woman, from when one is about 10 years old" [laughter].
Not all the interviewees asserted this superiority with the same enthusiasm or wished to
emphasize their differences from nonblack Colombians, and some of them insisted on pointing
out that these supposed sexual and sensual powers were something attributed to them by others
rather than an expression of their own point of view. It is important to remember that the
interviewees were students from the Chocó who had lived in Bogotá for at least a year, having
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migrated to the capital looking for better educational and work opportunities. As one of them
said, "I found out about this idea when I arrived in Bogotá. My study colleagues said that 'This
black man is wild for everything,' but at times . . . while one is in one's own region it is
something simple and normal, on the other hand for you people over here, it is something outside
of the norm."
Another argued:
It‟s not that we give ourselves the prestige. It‟s the other men, the men from the
university, that are interested in us. They say that the black man is this or that. It‟s
not that we feel that we have prestige, rather it‟s those from the interior that give
us the fame. At times they exaggerate the fame that they give us. They‟re the ones
At the same time, interviewees were conscious of the ambivalence of this image: "One
meets with whites and they say, 'What you people know is how to dance,' and when they say that
in that way, it‟s a form of disrespect. But when they say to you, 'you people dance very well,' in
this context one takes it as a compliment. They devalue and also compliment one; it‟s both
things.” Often this is a keeping black people at a distance, assigning them to the exotic and
exciting. Some of the interviewees prefer to pursue the acceptance of their peers without
underlining the differences that exist, achieving upward mobility by means of their academic
standing, and they see this stereotype as an obstacle to their being valued in other areas:
They know that one has many intellectual capacities, so many, and often they
don‟t look at that. Instead rather they emphasize the dancing and sex and don‟t
try to see what one is really like inside or what one is like as a person. When
they want to devalue one, they say these things and more. They talk about you,
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not to your face but behind your back, things that are not true. I would like
For the young people of the middle-class sectors of Quibdó, who are more familiar with
egalitarian discourse between the sexes and more identified with the ideology of modernization
and progress, some of these values have begin to lose their legitimacy. Instead, other social goals
I don't believe that the sexual element gives one prestige, because I believe one
gains prestige and makes oneself respected for one's personality and for one's
intellectual capacity. In life this [sexuality and dance] is not so positive. In terms
from that point of view, sex does not provide one with prestige, because it does
This reflection refers to a concrete context: a region isolated from certain development models in
which poverty limits aspirations and critically restricts people's possibilities and professional
opportunities for black people are relatively recent. For this reason, many people from the region
are pursuing training with the hope of breaking this isolation, defeating poverty and achieving
recognition: “To be seen in another way, one has to demonstrate that one has abilities, that one is
capable, one has to study. This is why we are here in Bogotá, to study so that tomorrow people
will say, „Over there is somebody who is an accountant or lawyer‟—to be someone. In Quidbó, if
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As some of the interviewees explained, this supposed superiority in the area of dance did
not provide material advantages or modify their position within the Colombian socio-racial
hierarchy:
With regard to whether the ability to dance provides one with a higher social
status, I would say no. You are only recognized in social spaces when you dance
well, but in order to move up in social status, one has to earn that, study hard and
try to improve oneself. In the Chocó, folklore is not profitable, it is not a business.
There are many dancers who compete on a national level and win in many
events—for example, the folklore group from the Chocó is a special guest in the
CREA cultural week—but it does not stop being simply folklore. Over there
in the Chocó. That is, I haven‟t seen that one can live from dance; it isn‟t
profitable.
The men interviewed see themselves as superior to whites as lovers and say that women,
white or black, prefer love from black men. They say that the women from the interior of the
country, even the married ones, go mad for them and seek them out.
They expect a lot from one . . . When they are with you, go with you . . . they go
with you under a certain impression of what they are going to find, of what they
expect. For this reason, one tries to give them the most that one can, and maybe it
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Here in the interior one has had relations with rolas [women from Bogotá], with
white women, and they have felt good, they have told me that [expresses
I know many friends, and more or less 97 percent of the men from Quibdó are
passionate like me. There are others that are not, but almost always when they are
with a woman, black or white, they show their abilities. One is very anxious to
The Chocoanos' way of dancing follows certain rules that express masculine domination
over a woman and the type of relationship that they want to establish with her. When a man likes
a woman, he immediately tries to establish bodily contact with her through dance and uses his
In the universities, on Fridays, the rolas or the women are looking out for us
[black men], to see if we are going to go there [the disco] because of the fame that
speak from experience: here at the university, one goes dancing on weekends, and
the women students like us to touch them, to feel them, and our swing and waist
Erotic advances are manifested in physical contacts that become increasingly closer to the sexual
act without necessarily resorting to the mediation of language in the expression of this progress.
The sequence of this increasingly physical nearness is described in the following way by one of
You know that there are women that if they see a man dance well, one who dances
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beautifully, some women want to dance with him, and from there is the fall, you
warm up her ear. . . . Some women like to do this movement, and depending on
how you move her, one moves toward her and she gives an idea, more or less, of
On certain occasions, the will to "possess" a woman is not just a manifestation of sexual
attraction but also a desire to express superiority over her, the more so when for racial or social
class reasons she is "prohibited." One of the male interviewees, justifying why men brag among
themselves of their sexual conquests, said: "Maybe the woman is the picadita7 of the
neighborhood and has not wanted to sleep with anybody, and when one arrives and manages to
For many of the interviewees, upward mobility involved marriage with someone of
I am a person who wants too much, more than what is evident. Here in Bogotá,
one experiments with many different types of women from Bogotá. But there is
something that is really important when one does not have much money and is
often weighed down, without knowing what to do and without money. Here in
Bogotá, one tries to find a woman who has money, who has a good position and
from there one begins to climb the social ladder . . . and some achieve their
objective and there you are [laughter]. More than anything, one thinks of the
family.
Although skin color is not mentioned here, the reference to women "from here, from Bogotá,"
implicitly means white or mestizo-white. This declaration provoked a strong reaction from other
interviewees, who argued that the only reason to form a couple was the possibility of being
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happy:
I don‟t share Javier's opinion . . . one can go out with many women who are
professionals, who work well, but if one goes out with a woman because she has
money, one is not going to feel good, so what is one doing there? One should look
for happiness in oneself. I believe that in love one should not have interests
However, although ideally love relationships are formed on the basis of personal qualities of the
members of the couple, the men and women interviewed recognized that economic and social
status are crucial in the seduction game. One of the participants expressed it in the following
way: "One is very influenced by material things. If the man has something, then one likes him. If
the man has a motorbike, even if he is ugly, or if he studies in a good school or if he goes to
"THE ONE WHO MAKES LOVE THE MOST IS THE MOST MACHO"
The interviews in Quibdó demonstrate how closely interwoven masculine and racial identity are
and that the experience of being a man and being black is simultaneous and not sequential. Taking into
account that identity is a relational concept, we can infer that the identity of male Chocoanos refers
implicitly or explicitly to the identity of nonblack men. Within this comparison, the place assigned to the
body has been one of the elements used by the two groups to distinguish themselves. Both black men
and others perceive that black men hold the comparative advantage in terms of skills in dancing and
music and sexual performance. For this reason, few black men give up or distance themselves from the
values that associate them with being quebradores8, recognizing that it is through these values that the
equilibrium of their subjective position is reestablished in relation to men from the other regions.
Generally, relations among black males are potentially conflictive and competitive except
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of those constructed around the family and certain personal affinities. The following quotations
In Quibdó, competition is a daily thing. The one who makes love the most is the
most macho, the leader; people look for him, he can order people around, and
wherever he goes he shows off . . . “This is my woman, and for this reason she
should be respected."
Black men like competition among ourselves. When there is a lot of competition
among us and someone has a girlfriend and another man likes her, and the other
man makes her feel better, the other man takes her away from him, and the rest of
the men make fun of him. There is a lot of competition, and nobody wants to lose.
While the strategies of masculine prestige are constructed among men, the relations
between men and women also influence the negotiation of masculine identity (Gutmann 1998).
Men from the Chocó are in agreement in saying that women from the Chocó are more relaxed
and expressive in terms of sex than women from other regions. They actively participate in the
game of seduction and do not hesitate to show that they are interested in a man if they consider
him attractive or to express dissatisfaction with his sexual performance (Viveros and Cañon,
1997). This does not mean that power relations between men and women do not exist in this
context but rather that they are manifested differently than in other societies. Sexuality is
In our region, women have a lot of influence. There are women who demand a lot
from one. One is making love with a woman one night, and one is fine, and the
next day the woman tells her neighbor or her friend that that one wasn't good
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enough and that he only made love twice [laughter] and that influences a lot, and
that is why we have to be potent lovers, tigers. This influences a lot; this is very
common.
The men from the Chocó know that they have to fulfill certain obligations to their official
woman partners, among them sexual obligations, if they want to continue having relations with
other women—that is, that the condition of their success with other women is partly related to
One could be making love with one's wife or with another woman, and if there is
a moment of displeasure, either of the women will say, “You are not worth
anything, you are not a man in bed,” and this leads to us having to be tigers in bed,
and we have to show that, because they demand it from one. And also, as a black
man, one does not like to be with only one woman but with various women, one
has to take into account that friends talk among themselves whether one is good in
bed or not, and they ask each other “Was he good or not?” And if one wasn't, then
The women from the Chocó that we interviewed do not deny the ideas about the supposed
sexual prowess of black men, but they provide other tonalities. It is important to underline that
these women said that they had had erotic-affectionate experiences with men from other regions
that allowed them to compare them with men from the Chocó. They said, for example, that
"Black men aren‟t interested in details. They don‟t say beautiful things to women before sex, they
are not interested in that." Men and women interviewees were in agreement that black men do
not combine words with actions during the sexual act. One of them said,
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The men from the interior are more elegant in their seduction than men from the
Chocó, they are more into detail, they compliment more. We are more direct and
less interested in details, although we are affectionate as well. . . . But in the sense
From another point of view, these young women may be more exposed to modern
discourses about feminine sexuality and may aspire to amorous relations that are more
pleasurable and less oriented to the standards of male behavior. When they speak of the ideal
lover, they elaborate an image based on the courtship qualities of white men and the sexual
potency of black men: "A white boyfriend is more tender, he gives little kisses, he spoils more . .
. he is more affectionate. Black men are more reserved, and they are ashamed to express
themselves, but in terms of sexual relations it seems to me that black men are more passionate, in
The women interviewees did not protest the prevalent image of black women as "hot,"
although they distinguished between being "hot," that is, sexually ardent, and being “easy”
pointing out a tendency to confuse the two.9 The need that the women felt to make this
distinction demonstrates that women are less authorized than men to assert these supposed sexual
powers. In the case of these women, these images can easily become accusations of immorality
It has been said that sexuality, because it is seen to be private, is not easy to talk about,
but this generalization is not valid in this case. We have shown in our fieldwork in Quibdó and in
Bogotá with people originally from the Chocó that it is not difficult for them to talk directly and
spontaneously about sex. The only subject in our conversations about sex that provoked strong
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emotion among the men was male homosexuality. For many of them, it was incomprehensible,
Whereas Bastide found in Brazil that when he said "race," "sex" was the response, our
experience led us in the other direction. The moment that we turned off the tape recorder and
stopped speaking about the sensuality and sexuality of black people, the issue of racism came
strongly to the fore. The feeling that I had during these conversations was that the subject was too
painful to be discussed with serenity (and see Mosquera, 1998). The comments were emphatic
and polarized. While some asserted that they had been discriminated against, others said that this
was a thing of the past and one should not keep on insisting on talking about it. Some tried to
show that they recognized the existence of the phenomenon but that it did not affect them and
that they could overcome it. "When one arrives in Bogotá, one realizes that they look at one
strangely, and that is when one's work begins. They told me that black people should sit at the
back, and for this reason I always sit at the front of the bus." Others tried to minimize the
existence of racism by pointing out that discriminatory attitudes are common to all societies,
including those that are the object of racism: "I went out with a black girl from Buenaventura,
and she told me that her mother did not like me because I was from the Chocó. And we were
both the same color." Finally, one of the most active participants in the group interview captured
the feelings of many of the interviewees, by expressing the desire to be integrated into his social
surroundings, not identified by his color, and criticizing the legislation that recognized of blacks
as an ethnic group:10 “Why would they have to assign someone land because they are black,
living here in Bogotá? What we want is to have the same rights that all the other Colombians
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sexual and sensual talents and their comments on racism, we find common elements. Both are
directly linked to their way of positioning themselves in the racial order, understood as "a
structure of racial models, and as choices made by individuals related to racial and ethnic
identities" (Wade, 1997: 56). Interpretations that accept the content of the stereotypes and assert
the difference of black people, converting them into a source of superiority, tend to be in defense
of cultural expressions that have been identified as black. Interpretations that reject the
stereotypes because they do not want to stress any difference or consider that these abilities do
not give them any social dividends tend toward the assumption of norms and values established
The first set of interpretations, in reaffirming the value of a black culture that is devalued
or accepted only as something exotic or exciting, rejects the ambiguity that surrounds the idea of
"black" in Colombia and results in presenting it as an almost personal issue (Wade, 1997). This
assertion of a positive identity for black people is achieved through the transformation of
difference into superiority, a source of dignity (a prerequisite for all collective identities, as E.
Varikas points out (Agier, 1992). However, these inversions only reelaborate the substance of a
group whose boundaries have been established by a system of racial domination (Agier, 1992).
The invention of “black” in its own terms is difficult in the context of preexisting racial relations.
Some of the risks of this kind of identity are, on the one hand, the reifiction of the difference and,
The second set of interpretations limits the importance of these abilities to the areas of
recreation and diversion and emphasizes that the only way of obtaining social recognition is
through intellectual training. These positions also express the explicit desire of some black
people to become assimilated into the surrounding environment, divesting themselves of all the
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elements of their identity that can be associated with the backward and the primitive, and in this
way escaping the discrimination to which they have been subject. In practice, this means
adopting a shameful black identity11 and pursuing integration and cultural and racial
In the Colombian context the racism that is adopted assumes the form of integration and
domination rather than that of exclusion and segregation. The ideal of becoming white or
disappear.12
Various questions arise in relation to these two positions, which appear to translate into
the two processes Wade has described—resistance and adaptation. Is it possible for black
Colombians to manipulate this stereotype without falling into trap of essentializing their identity?
Is it feasible for them to defend a cultural space and their own symbolic capital without having to
do so in opposition, that is, in the terrain determined and delimited by nonblacks? Is it possible to
conceive of the social participation of black people as a collective without its perspective being
that of the ghetto? Lastly, is it possible to imagine an ethnocultural integration that is not in
The answers to these questions are obviously not simple. To try to resolve them means
taking into account the tensions that persist between these two perspectives. To specify what
some of the tensions are I will refer to a debate that has taken place in Brazil, a country that has
been considered an emblem of interracial mixing and so-called racial democracy. Some
anthropologists (among them Darcy Ribeiro, a specialist in the indigenous question and a
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unity, a cultural and linguistic homogeneity based on the forced de-Indianization of the
indigenous people, the de-Africanization of black people and interracial mixing. According to
Ribeiro, Brazilians are becoming more integrated into the nation-state as a result of the general
process of industrialization that is affecting everyone and the cultural homogenization of the
mass media of communication (Ribeiro, 1995). He assumes that the mixing of races will ensure
homogenize by the mixing of races to eradicate it. However, although Ribeiro is conscious of the
ambiguities of assimilation, particularly its harmful effects on black identity, solidarity, and
combativeness, his formula for the nation-state has been heavily criticized because it does not in
practice give the same value to indigenous and Afro-Brazilian cultures as it does to Western
ones.
From the opposite perspective, leaders of the black Brazilian movement such as Abdias
do Nascimento have pointed out the dangers of racial mixing in the context of Brazil. For
Nascimento the risk is that this process will lead to ethnic suicide, a profound acculturation that
tends toward the desegregation of the population of African origin and becomes an indeological
The pluriethnic and multicultural ideal would be equality of the races, ethnicities, and cultures
based on their differences. The nation-state that is derived from this ideal should provide
recognition for the different ethnic and cultural groupings, freedom for them to choose their
value systems, and equality of these systems, without resorting to violence and oppression (do
Nascimento, 1980; 1992; d'Aesky, 1998). This position could, however, lead to ghettoization as a
result of attempts to delimit a separate space for black people (organization of their own
territories, proposals of autonomous educational experiences) that could limit the importance of
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dialogue with global society (Agier, 1992).
From my point of view, both positions—that of racial and cultural integration through
unsatisfactory. With regard to this, it is suggestive to bring into the discussion the collation
proposed by Rita Laura Segato (1992). In Brazil a group of people, not necessarily black, have
raised the banner of "blacks" in an attempt to subvert ethnic blocking by racial determination and
perspective of the deconstructive method, which opposes the reification of differences and offers
the possibility of destabilizing all fixed identities. Therefore, the point is neither to dissolve all
racial and cultural differences to achieve one universal identity (as Ribeiro proposes) nor, as is
proposed by Nascimento (1992), to support the differentiation of ethnic groupings at all costs.
Rather, it is necessary to deconstruct the notion of race and propose ethnocultural identities based
on multiple, fluid, and changing differences. However, following Fraser (1997), it is important to
remember that black Colombians are subject not only to cultural injustice but also to economic
injustice and therefore require solutions based not only on cultural recognition but also on
economic redistribution. In practice it has been noted that the simultaneous pursuit of both
redistribution and recognition involves interference with regard to the measures associated with
each strategy. One of the ways of avoiding this dilemma is to situate oneself in a wider field in
which the multiple and interconnected struggles against diverse and intersecting injustices can be
taken into account. Ethnicity/race is interrelated with values with regard to class, gender,
simultaneously in relation to all of these variables. This is the more important when people may
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be subordinated on all of these axes or, on the contrary, dominant on some and subordinated on
others.
The dialogue with men and women from the Chocó on the supposed Dionysian
tendencies of black people was for me an opportunity to explore, both in myself and in the
interviewees, the degree to which it is feasible to manipulate this stereotype within the
ethnicity, on the one hand, and a self-critical approach to the tendency to invert the roles of
domination in defense of the importance of music, dance, and eroticism in the black world, on
the other, and recognizing that the Dionysian aspects of life are neither incompatible with the
Apollonian ones nor exclusively associated with blackness. The question remains open on
identity.
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Mara Viveros Vigoya is a lecturer and researcher in the Faculty of Human Sciences of the
National University of Colombia. This article was first presented to the Twenty-first International
Congress of the Latin American Studies Association in Chicago, IL, September 24-26, 1998.
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1
Here “black” is understood not as an essentialized identity but as a personal, social, cultural,
political, and economic process in a particular temporal and spatial context with local, regional,
collection and transcription of the information that emerged from the group interviews.
3
A mulata is a person with parents of African and indigenous descent.
4
In the interviews, the use of the word “dance” is a kind of "dancing." The act of speaking is
accompanied by hand movements, arm and waist movements, and facial expressions,
interspersed with laughter. This use of gesture and movement unites them as a group, providing
the opportunity to establish this nonverbal subtext as a privileged form of identity affirmation.
5
Many of the foods of the Chocó were attributed aphrodisiac virtues among them chontaduro
and borojó. We do not know whether this belief is a form of confirmaton of behaviour of men, or
whether sexual potency is perceived as the result of the properties of this food.
6
In the María Moliner dictionary arrecho is defined as a popular term used in some places, and
sexual excitement.
7
In colloquial speech, a picada is someone who is pretentious and self-important.
8
Literally "bankrupters." A quebrador is someone who has the ability to "win" many women,
Young black women who work as domestic employees continue to be seen as the sexual
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10
Law 70 of August 27, 1993 recognizes blacks as an ethnic group and concedes them rights to
own land; equally, it contains measures designed to improve the education, training, access to
credit, and material conditions of black communities at a national level. The law attempts to
ensure that education will reflect the cultural specificity of black people and establishes special
electoral districts and the possibility of being able to elect two representatives of black
distinctive characteristics of a race that has been considered intrinsically inferior in order to
less racist that sees in each drop of white blood a step towards purification, than a society which
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