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mat of the Republican Period, and the Chinese Oral History Project of the East
and earned the Ph.D. degree under the Department of Public Law and Government
in 1912. Furthermore, Dr. Koo gave his extensive collection of public papers
Dr. Koo was born on January 29, 1888 and began his public career in 1912
thereafter save for that of the Chinese People's Republic. He was several times
that concerned China, from the Versailles Conference in 1919 to the conferences
founding the United Nations in 19^5* Dr. Koo served as China's Minister in
Washington from 1915 to 1918, and from 1932 to 1956 he was successively Ambassador
League of Nations and the United Nations. Dr. Koo's final public office was
the Hague from May 1957 to February 1967* The main facts of Dr. Koo's career
Boorman and Richard C. Howard (New York: Columbia University Press, 1967“
Interviewing with Dr. Koo began in 1958 and continued as time permitted
in his busy judicial schedule, but after his retirement in 1367, Dr. Koo devoted
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with him successively during the seventeen years. For all phases of his career
before 1932, Dr. Koo depended upon his memory, assisted by research done by the
scholars working with him. Dr. Koo dictated his memoirs to a tape recorder and
answered questions raised by the interviewers. The tapes were then transcribed
and the adiolar-assistant became editor, or in some cases, another person took
ovei the task of organizing the narrative, eliminating duplication, and checking
names, dates, and remembered facts. After sections had been edited and retyped,
they were submitted to Dr. Koo for his correction and approval. For the period
after 1932, Dr. Koo had the use of his diaries, minutes of conversation, and
Costs of this project were met from grants by the Ford Foundation to the
East Asian Institute,with Columbia absorbing overhead expenses. During the final
two years the enterprise was supported by a grant from the National Endowment
for the Humanities. In December 1975» work on the project had to cease, even
though not every part of the vast manuscript was completed in final form.
In 1958 Miss Julie How started the work with Dr. Koo in New York and then
the first section, Volume I in 1^3 pages, dealing with Dr. Koo's childhood and
early education in Shanghai and his college and graduate years at Columbia, were
completed. Then came work on Dr. Koo's first decade in diplomacy up to 1922,
the Versailles Peace Conference, the League of Nations, and the Washington
Conference. Dr. Te-kong Tong assisted on the last year of this period and the
section was edited by Dr. Donald Sutton. The retyped version covers 295 pages
in Volume I I.
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Dr. Kai-fu Tsao commenced interviewing in 1963, covering the second decade
of Dr. Koo's public career from 1922 to 1932, when he was an important official
in the Peking Government, several times as Foreign Minister, and also as Minister
of Finance and Acting Premier. With the overthrow of the Peking Government by
the Nationalists in 1928, Dr. Koo avoided politics at the national level, but
was recalled late in 1931 after the Mukden Incident in September. He presented
This decade.is covered in 365 pages of Volume III, and the transcripts were
Dr. James Seymour began interviewing in August 196^+, exploring the periods
of Dr. Koo's missions to Paris, London, and Washington. These were the troubled
years of Japan's aggression against China, the war in Europe and German occupa-
tion of France, the Pacific War, and the civil war in China which resulted in the
Paris and London, as her Representative to the League of Nations and the United
Nations, and for ten years as Ambassador in Washington, Dr. Koo was in a pivotal
about half of which Dr. Seymour edited, covered these decisive years in a pre
liminary way.
After his retirement early in 1967, Dr. Koo made his permanent home in New
York and was able to devote much more time to the project. Mrs. Crystal Seidman
way assigned to spend full time on the work of interviewing and editing. With
the availability of Dr. Koo's papers, the character of the developing manuscript
changed. Mrs. Seidman began exploring the extensive documentary resources for
the years after 1932. She combined previous transcripts with new interviews
and added much documentary material selected by Dr. Koo. Mrs. Seidrnan's
r account of her work during nine years, which resulted in Volumes IV through
VII, some 9,000 pages of edited version, follows:
the years 1932-Al and 19^6-56. Each interview had been recorded on
tape, the tape transcribed by a secretary and the transcription checked
by the interviewer. It was now time to organize this sizable body of
materials to see what we had, to edit it, and fill in the gaps.
The introductory pattern of the first interviews had already
determined the nature of all future work. From the outset, we had
been dealing with many facts and details. These needed both background
material to explain them and give them a context, and more factual
detail to resolve any questions raised. Where it was possible, I turned
to Dr. Koo for the answers; otherwise I relied on research, using both
the Koo Collection and other sources, newspapers as well as books.
Meanwhile the interviews continued. At this stage they were
somewhat different from the earlier interviews, since I was now working
directly from the transcript and the supporting papers in the Koo
Collection. We often began our interviews with a general discussion or
with a discussion of the period or problem in question. In the latter
case, I would recall to Dr. Koo the dates, names, places, circumstances,
etc., to provide the context before asking a specific question. We
worked off-the-tape. I took notes where appropriate. These discussions,
which increased our rapport and gave me a more intimate knowledge of
Dr. Koo's attitudes and approaches, were followed by on-tape interviews,
relying heavily on the telegrams, which Dr. Koo spent many hours translating.
in these latter interviews and in the editing, I
found other materials from the Koo Collection useful, such as official
memoranda and aide-memoires, press statements, embassy and foreign office
releases, reports of subordinates on special subjects, and personal
letters exchanged with colleagues. There is also a file of speeches
by Dr. Koo for the American period, which he asked me to refer to and
which I often sought out to supplement a diary entry relating to the occa
sion or to China's publicity requirements at the time.
With such a wealth of documentary material on hand, it was possible
to produce a high1y-re1iab1e work. Statements from memory were checked
against the materials in the collection as well as outside sources.
The Notes, Diary and Telegrams in particular were checked against each
other to obtain firm dates and to clear up ambiguities. (For example,
the contents of important conversations recorded in the Notes of
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Dr. Koo, himself, provided a 79 page section dealing with his ten years
editor, others assisted materially on the project. Mrs. Mary Schoch and Miss
and typing of edited versions was done successively by the late Mrs. Dorothy
Hu, Miss Julie Wei, Mrs. Margaret Chang Chen, Miss Gail Klement, and Miss
Elizabeth Blair. Miss Blair worked for five faithful years. My late colleague,
Professor Franklin Ho, as co-director of the Chinese Oral History Project,
was helpful in many ways. We are also indebted to Columbia's former president,
Dr. Grayson Kirk, to the former deans of the School of International Affairs,
the late Dr. Schuyler C . Wallace and the late Dr. Andrew W. Cordier, to
Dean Harvey Picker, and to successive directors of the East Asian Institute,
Cohen, all for their support. Many persons in the Columbia Library System
so much of his spare time to this honest and thoughtful reflection on his
unique resource for the understanding of Chinese history during the Republican
Period.
January 1976
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Birth i
Family 2
Education (elementary school) 6
Play 7
Music 13
Mischief 13
Death of maternal grandmother 16
Incident with monk 1 lg
Education (classical) 19
Education (western) 23
11Iness 26
Education (St. John's College) 28
Reform sentiment at St. John's, Shanghai, 1900-1904 30
Recollections of the Sino-Japanese War 1894 and the
Reform Movement 1898 32
Departure for the US, summer 1904 37
Year at Cook Academy, 1904-1905 41
Indecision concerning course of study and summerat Cornell, 1905 45
Freshman year at Columbia, 1905-1906;Freshman-Sophomore contests 47
Contact with the Mission to study constitutional government in the
west, winter, 1905-1906 54
First visit to Washington, D. C., 1905-1906;
Meeting Sir Chen-tung Liang-ch'eng 55
Recollections of the Russo-Japanese War and the Peace Conference
1904-1905 55
Friendliness to foreign students at Columbia 57
Recollections of Columbia professors and President Butler 58
Study of Latin, summer, 1906 and geology, 1906-1907 65
Athletic activities 68
Non-athletic extracurricular activities (dramatics,debating,
Spectator, Board of Student Representatives, mock conventions,
and others) 71
Recollections of Stagg Whiting and a hunting trip to the Adirondacks 78
Visit to London, summer, 1908 (Wang Ch'ung-hui and Minister ,_
Wang Ta-hsieh) 81
Journey by boat to Shanghai, summer 1908 83
Contrast between East and West 84
Problem of marriage and divorce 86
Engagement 87
Wedding, 1908 92
Return to US with bride 102
Divorce, 1911 104
Return to Columbia University, 1908 107
Contact with T'ang Shao-i's mission to Washington, 1908 107
Interpreting news dispatches for the Herald.end,1908 109
US policies, especially regarding Manchuria 112
Visit to Washington on the invitation of T'ang Shao-i,January1909 114
Public debate of the issue of republic vs.monarchy avoided by
Chinese students in the US 120
Telegrams from Chinese students in the US to Peking government
Meeting with Sun Yat-sen,fal1,1909
Table of Contents (Conf'd)
4. Pelting Society
a) Peking in Transition
b) The Returned Students in the Capital
r a) Cabinet Meetings
b) Financing the
c) Official
d) Irregular Practice in the Provinces
c) Irregular Practice at the Foreign Office
t ) Irregular Practice in the Ministry of Finance
. Foreign Affairs at Peking and Nanking Contrasted
. Diplomats a n d D i p 1 o in a c y
2. The Need for Aid Becomes More Urgent and Sometimes More Difficult
to Obtain in View of a Deteriorating Military Situation in China
and Europe's Drift toward War:
late-May - August 1938
10. The Outbreak of War in Europe and its Effect on China and
Chinese Government Policy:
August 22 - September 18, 193911
1-I . The Drift of French Foreign Policy until the War Reaches
the Doors of Paris:
late-Decernber 19 39 - May 17, 1940
It. The Fall of: Paris and the French Surrender to Germany:
May 18 - June 23, 1940
1. Commencement of Mission
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Indian Independence
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War Policies
50
D. Developments in Britain
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1944 - 1945 (June)
Material to be Edited
MATERIAL TO BE EDITED
original transcript pp• 1075-1421
May-June 1945 - July 1946
Outline
Part D: CHINA RENEWS REQUESTS FOR ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE: April - June 1947
Section 1. China Requests a One Billion Dollar Loan:
April - May 1947
Section 2. American Reactions to the Chinese Request: June 1947
Part E: TOWARD A CHANCE IN UNITED STATES CHINA POLICY: July - December 1947
Section 1. The Period of the Wedemeyer Mission: July - September 1947
a) The Period of the Wedemeyer Mission to China:
July 11 - August 25
b) Repercussions of the Mission in China and the United
States: September 1947
Section 2. The International Background as focused in the United
Nations: September - December 1947
Section 3. China Receives Token Assistance: end September ~ December 1947
Part F: THE BATTLE FOR THE CHINA AID PROGRAM: late December 1947 -
September 1948
Section 1. The State Department Bill on Aid to China: late December -
mid-February 1948
Section 2. The Congressional Debate Leading to the China Aid Act of
1948: mid-February - April 5, 1948
Section 3. Implementation of the China Aid Act: April - September, 1948
a) Negotiations and Appropriations: April - June 1948
b) Procurement of Military Supplies: June - September 1948
c) The Diplomatic Background: July - September 1948
Part C THE MOW PANG-CH'U - CHOU CHIH-JOU CONTROVERSY AND PKi SONAL- STYLE
POLITICS: THEIR BEARING ON UNITED STATES PUBLIC OP IN IONA. ND THE
UNITED STATES POLICY OF AID TO CHINA eptember 1950 -19 5 8
Section 1. General Mow's Allegations and their Repercuss ions :
September 1950 - early-August 1951-
Section 2. The Government Takes Action: mid-August - lat e - O c * o b e r 19
Section 3. The Legal Case and Postponement of the Commit t e e o f
Inquiry: October 26, 195 1. - January 27, 19 5 2
Section 4. Major Setbacks in the Legal Case: January 22 - m i d - D e c e rn 1)
1952
Section 5. A Postscript to the Mow Case: mid-December 19 52 - 195 8
Part F: AS THE NEW LEADERS IN WASHINGTON AND MOSCOW TALK ABOUT PEACE:
January - August 1953 ~
Section 1. The Eisenhower Administration's "New"China Policy:
January 20 - March 17, 1953
Section 2. The Korean Armistice and its Effect on Nationalist China:
January - August 1953
a) The Deadlock is Broken: Agreement on the Prisoner
of War Issue: Uncertaintly for Free China:
January - June 8, 1953
b) The Armistice Agreement and the Proposed Political
Conference: June 8 - August 1953
Section 3. Questions of Assistance and Cooperation between the
United States and Free China: March 16 - August 1953
a) Efforts to Secure Military Cooperation and Res
olve such Problems as the Chinese Troops in
Indochina and Burma: March 16 - May 1953
b) Mutual Security Assistance to China for FY1954:
May 5 - August 1953
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REMINISCENCES OF WELLINGTON KOO
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A Question of Protocol
Relations with the Royal House
Relations with the Diplomatic Corps
Social Life with the Dutch Community
The Chinese Community at The Hague
Foreign Dignitaries Visiting the Court
Visits of iny Relatives and Friends
and practice, was always for the written word and document above memory
as an accurate transmitter of events. Having kept careful records of
of Conversations and the Diary. As I got to know Dr. Koo better and
became more familiar with the Koo Collection, I encouraged the use of
secretary's draft.
The Diary is a daily account beginning March 26, 1936, when Dr.
Koo returned to Paris as the first Chinese Ambassador to France. (The
volumes for December 29, 1939 - April 14, 1941 and October 10, 1943 -
January 17, 1949 are missing.) The Diary often contains an official
agenda for the day and notations of many of the important national and
The approach used in the interviews was f i rst ly chrono logica 1 and,
of a subject, and then read out from the Diary and the Notes somewhat
selectively. In using the Notes, he made minor modifications in the
as they were reviewed, and that such answers would often as not conflict
with those supplied offhand from memory. Overviews, subjective reactions^
was a diary entry which read something like this: "Sent important
He would look over them, and translate them, sometimes quite selectively,
but usually not. Dr. Koo is, as I said, a firm believer in the intrinsic
r the years
tape, the
1932-41
tape
and 1946-56.
transcribed by a
Each interview had
secretary and the
been recorded on
(top copy of the)
transcription checked by the interviewer. It v/as now time to compile
and edit this sizable body of materials to see what v/e had, to
organize this and fill in the gaps.
determined the nature of all future work. From the outset, we had
been dealing with many facts and details. These needed both background
material to support and explain them and give them a context and more
case, I would recall to Dr. Koo the dates, names, places, circumstances,
found most useful were the various official memoranda and aide-memoires,
The Notes, Diary and Telegrams in particular could be and were checked
interviews, which had been typed in duplicate. (The carbon copy is filed.)
The top copy of the original transcript, as cut up, rearranged, added to,
deducted from and researched is called the Editor's Draft. The latter
carbon copy is filed.) The top copy of this First Edited Version was
answering any questions written into the text by the editor, we met
to go over it together. Then it was reviewed, amended and copy-edited
by this editor in the case of Volumes VI and VII and Parts A and R, ] 0f
Volume IV. This doubly corrected copy of the First Edited Version,
The top copy of the First Edited Version, Volume IV, Parts rf 2.
through E were not reviewed by this editor after having been typed or
after having been seen by Dr. Koo. There is no Final Edited Version
of Volume IV.
which I hadn't sufficient time to ascertain many of the fact. Nor did
I have time to review the draft once typed. Each sub-unit, when typed,
was, however, sent to Dr. Koo and has his approval and occasional
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THE REMINISCENCES OF WELLINGTON KOO
EDITOR'S DRAFT
The First Edited Version (Volumes Iv, VI and VII) is the Editor ' s
DraTt as typed. The carbon copy of the typed version remains as it came
from the Typist. The top copy has been approved and corrected by Dr.
Koo. For Volumes VI and VII and Volume IV, Part A and B, it has also
been revised, amended and copy-edited by Ms. Seidman. The First Edited
Version, top copy, as fully-revised both by Dr. Koo and the editor is
the draft from which the Final Edited Version is typed.
Brackets [] enclose all material added by the editor. This
includes material not found in the oriqinal transcript of the interviews
with Dr. Koo nor in the editor's notes of Dr. Koo's non-transcribod
remarks; quotes not explicitly stated for inclusion by Dr. Koo; material
found in the transcript or notes, but summarized or reworked to a high
degree; and questions and remarks addressed to Dr. Koo by the editor for
clarification.
With few exceptions, recalled conversations in The Reminiscences
are based on Dr. Koo's Diary and Notes_of Conversations. Those based
directly on the frlotes are normally paragraphed by speaker:
I said... .
Mr. Hoover replied....
Then I asked....
Mr. Hoover replied....
There are exceptions. For example, if there are more speakers, each
making very terse remarks, all remarks might be included in a single
paragraph. Or the conversation with Mr. Hoover, might contain a
paragraph or two ustng the form: "When I asked. * . ., Mr. Hoover replied
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THE REMINISCENCES OF WELLINGTON KOO
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FIRST EDITED VERSION
The ^Irst Edited Version (Volumes IV, VI and VII) is the Editor's
33 typed. The carbon copy of the tyned version remains as it
came from the typist. The top copy has been approved and corrected by
Dr. Koo. For Volumes VI and VII and Volume IV, Parts A and B, It has
also been revised, amended and copy-edited by Ms. Seidman. The r 1 rot
Edited Version, top copy^as fully-revised both by Dr. Koo and the
editor is the draft from which the Final Edited Version is typed.
Brackets M enclose all material added by the editor. This
includes material not found in the original transcript of the interviews
with Dr. Koo nor in the editor's notes of Dr. Koo’s non-transcribed
remarks; quotes not explicitly slated for inclusion by Dr. Kooj material
found in the transcript or notes but summarized or reworked to a high
degree; and questions and remarks addressed to Dr. Koo by the editor
for clarification.
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The brackets,, while useful to the scholar, were really intended
for the use of Dr. Koo himself. Sections of the First Edited Version
were handed to Dr. Koo on completion for his comment and approval. He
judged whether the bracketed materials accurately reflected his own
views, his own voice and style. As for questions raised in the brackets,
they are either answered in notes in the margins in Dr. Koo's own hand
or were discussed by Dr. Koo and the editor and subsequently incorporated
in the text.
Dr. Koo’s corrections, deletions or additions are usually made in
pencil. Sometimes they are noted by a check (vO in the right-hand
margin, but not always. The curious reader must simplv distinguish
his handwriting from the editor's. Dr. Koo also sometimes indicated
his approval of bracketed material by one or several circles (oo) in
the right-hand margin.
With few exceptions, recalled conversations in The Reminiscences
are based on Dr. Koo1s Diary and Notes of Conversations. Those based
directly on the Notes are normally paragraphed by speaker:
I said....
Mr. Hoover replied....
Then I asked....
Mr. Hoover replied....
There are exceptions. For example, if there are more speakers, each
makincr very terse remarks, all remarks miqht be included in a single
paragraph. Or the conversation with Mr. Hoover might contain a
paragraph or two using the forint "When I asked...., Mr. Hoover replied
29, 1939 ~ April 14, 1941) and the Notes,, of, Conversations.
NO attempt has been made by the editor to rigorously check the
transcript against the original documents and outside sources, nor in
general to ascertain the facts, including the Identification and
spelling of the names of persons mentioned in the text. Brackets,
[], indicate material added by the editor, including guestions
Dr. Koo's.
The Final Edited Version is the First Edited Version as fully
corrected by the editor, corrected and approved by Dr. Koo, and then
typed. The typed Final Version has not itself been corrected by an
editor for typos and omissions.
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Volume I
(1888-1912)
Julie How
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Birth 1
Family 2
Education (elementary school) 6
Play 7
Music 13
Mischief 13
Death of maternal grandmother 16
Incident with monk 18
Education (classical) 19
Education (western) 23
Illness 26
Education (St. John'sCollege) 28
Reform sentiment at St. John's, Shanghai, 1900-1904 30
Recollections of the Sino-Japanese War 1894 and the
Reform Movement 1898 32
Departure for the US, summer 1904 37
Year at Cook Academy, 1904-1905 41
Indecision concerning course of study and summerat Cornell, 1905 45
Freshman year at Columbia, 1905-1906;Freshman-Sophomore contests 47
Contact with the Mission to study constitutional government in the
west, winter, 1905-1906 54
First visit to Washington, D. C., 1905-1906;
Meeting Sir Chen-tung Liang-ch'eng 55
Recollections of the Russo-Japanese War and the Peace Conference
1904-1905 55
Friendliness to foreign students at Columbia 57
Recollections of Columbia professors and President Butler 58
Study of Latin, summer, 1906 and geology, 1906-1907 65
Athletic activities 68
Non-athletic extracurricular activities (dramatics ,debating,
Spectator, Board of Student Representatives, mock conventions,
and others) 71
Recollections of Stagg Whiting and a hunting trip to the Adirondacks 78
Visit to London, summer, 1908 (Wang Ch'ung-hui and Minister
Wang Ta-hsieh) 81
Journey by boat to Shanghai, summer 1908 83
Contrast between East and West 84
Problem of marriage and divorce 86
Engagement 87
Wedding, 1908 92
Return to US with bride 102
Divorce, 1911 104
Return to Columbia University, 1908 107
Contact with T'ang Shao-i's mission to Washington, 1908 107
Interpreting news dispatches for the Herald,end,1908 109
US policies, especially regarding Manchuria 112
Visit to Washington on the invitation of T'ang Shao-i,January1909 114
Public debate of the issue of republic vs.monarchy avoided by
Chinese students in the US 120
Telegrams from Chinese students in the US to Peking government
Meeting with Sun Yat-sen,fall, 1909
Table of Contents (Cont'd)
EARLY CHILDHOOD
wide gates were two houses. One of them was occupied by the owner
and more Chinese in style, stood some fifty yards back and was
Koo Hsiung (Ching-chuan) and his twenty-three year old young wife
n£e Chiang.
the time till her death, my arrival in the family was looked upon
found himself idle, the family had to live, and this state of affairs
already burdened with the daily chore of bringing up two boys and
one girl and attending to her aging mother-in-law, did not wish to
have another baby to add to her work and worry. My mother (who
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enable him to move to the larger house where I was later born and
to engage a cook and a maid for the first time in the married life
time, returning home only two or three times a week when his ship
own mother who stayed with the family most of the time was only
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a guest and her children must also come next. The whole household
atld frugal all her life and of course insisted that others in the
China to this day are well-known for their industry and frugality.
widow, having lost her husband in the Taiping Rebellion which overran
Known as such it became the target and victim of one armed rebel
ransome. They sent word that they were being put under various
forms of torture in order to force them to tell how much wealth they
possessed and told their only way of survival was to surrender all
in those hard times. They were released and returned home. But
they did not live long after they regained their freedom. Two of
them died of their wounds suffered at the hand of the rebel kid
nappers. Within a few days after their return the other two
their captivity worry and impaired health. One main column of the
grandmother fled with her young son of four years old and still
lighten her burden and threw the girl baby into the wayside creek.
With her son alone, she quickened her pace and reached Shanghai on
home and was given shelter and food. There she took up knitting
But the fear of her little daughter's fate haunted her all the
time and so she braved another journey alone on foot to find her.
She retraced the whole path and stopped at shere she had had to
part with her little girl. She visited one farmer's house after
another and anxiously inquired if any of them had seen the baby.
soul, had picked her up and turned her to his wife’s care. My
had saved from her earnings, brought her back to Shanghai and so
the side of a dim light fed with soyabean oil and burning a single
wicker. At the same time she kept her son working hard at Chinese
her young son being able to earn his own board and lodging.
in her later more affluent days and always sought to inculcate them
of him as her darling. She looked after his food and clothing and
had him with her most of the time. This improvised division of labor
three years and one month old. It was a private school, about
a mile from my house, and opened by one Mr. Ghu, a widower in his
early thirties. He was both the manager and teacher and indeed
the civil service and decided upon teaching as the only practical
way for him to make a living. The tuition he charged was considered
a total of six dollars a year for each pupil. There were about
some quite advanced such as the Five Classics and some just
daily attendance so much that even when my brother did not want to
I went just the same. I made many friends t 2re and we played
over a string connecting us but hidden from the teacher. This daily
Before explaining how this crisis happened and what it led to,
recreation and play. Like most other dhildren I was keen on playing
as well as on studying.
But the Chinese toy industry was still in its very primitive
form of kites and paper lanterns during the new year festival and
the air and letting it drop on the foot as many times as possible.
Archery was another sport, with homemade bows and arrows and a
target.
two. I got soon tired of them and would look for other things to
do to kill time. Boyish ingenuity soon came to ray help and led me
saw at one of the fires in the neighborhood gave me the idea of making
a water pump with odd pieces of bamboo poles which were a eommon
section of about 18 inches long, boring the inside through the bottom
a
segment, inserting/circular piece cf tinplate inside to be at the
with cloth to make it more or less airtight, inserted this end into
the other bamboo as the piston and formed the pump completed and
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on and off the aperture at the top of the piston, I worked the
fall into our neighbors’ yard and was greatly amused to hear
at the top of their voice to call the maid or the cook from their
room to the far end of our house, I wondered why some easier way
the ground and second floors, fixed the other end of the cord so
one box I in one room could communicate what I wanted to tell another
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inside the lantern frame and carefully attached one end of a hair
figure and the other end to the central pivot of the lantern, through
when the two candles at the base of the lantern were lighted, the
hot air from the flame sent the disc revolving and thereby moving
the arm or head of the figures affixed.to the cylinder. It was fun
fair in the city and watched the lantern makers carefully to learn
A much simpler task but ever a great thrill was to make kites
at home and fly them in some nearby open field. There other boys
attached to our kite and half way on the string, made with our own
by the breeze.
New Year holidays each year. When the Lantern Festival, which usually
fell on the 15th day of the First Moon, was past, school would begin
again and little time was left for laborious undertakings to get
and even cooked foods with red paper figures, not only to make
them more pleasing to the eyes of the guests but also more auspicious
for the future of the family. Both the number of these figures
required and the delicacy of the work involved in cutting them often
sister did the work and soon was able to share it with them. After
the greater part of the task, so that they could devote more time
on the New Year Eve when it was the time-honored custom in all
prospective buyers came and went by our stand covered with our
honest works but none did more than cast a casual glance and passed
on. We wondered what was the reason for their lack of interest.
to the family musical band organized by our next door neighbor and
a great deal of ray spare time but it was interesting and amusing
to content myself with bits of advice from some good players here
the four string fiddle in contrast to the simple two string specie,
the Chinese hand organ built with twenty-odd tender bamboo sticks,
my fatherrs sedan chair carriers was a husky man of more brawn than
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One dark night, I wrapped myself in white bed sheet and pulled a
white pillow case over my head with two holes specially cut in it
more horrible. I hid myself behind a door leading into the big
hall of our house. As he and his fellow worker replaced the empty
chair on a high wooden frame in the entrance and he alone came into
louder and dashed forward faster to seek help from our cook. When
the latter came out, I took off my tall pillow-hat and enjoyed a
the family and devoted to her work. One of her absorbing tasks which
and indeed all the purchases she made for our table. In summer it
check them every day each time after 2 or 3 pieces were cut up and
I was one amongst them. So one early morning when she was still
out marketing, I wrapped two melons in two bath towels and dropped
them into a deep well in the backyard. When afternoon came and
to the pile and found two melons missing. She was most serious
and appeared confounded how the theft could have taken place. She
denied to her disbelief. When the row was still raging among them,
I quietly pulled up the melons from the well and brought them back
was to make the melons more delicious for having been thus cooled
calmed her and the improved taste of the specially cooled melons
accused ones.
good terms with her, I helped her make cakes and Chinese ravioli
my sister who had been busy for days making all kinds of embroidered
belts, bags and fan holders for her fianc4 in preparation for her
wedding some weeks ahead. When she stopped her work and went
took up the embroidery where she left and hurriedly finished it.
return I found her still greatly puzzled who it could be that had
done the work for her in her short absence for lunch. The whole
souls like the cook suggested some angel must have descended from
quiet until the evening when they appeared really nervous and unable
to sleep well and then I told them the truth. They at first were
needle, put a thread across its eye and did a few stitches to
was a very sad event for me, because she had regarded me as her
weeks and especially the fifth week after a death in a family the
close friends and relatives should come and attend the ceremony of
aloud the story of their friendship with the departed soul and
out aloud the most moving story of friendship with the deceased
loud but with her handkerchief pushed against her eyes all dry.
She had a very thin spread of hair over her scalp and wore a bun of
and wailing, her bun shifted up and down on the back of her head.
Suddenly I was tempted to pull the pin away gently and the bun
fell into my hand. I put both in my pocket and walked away. This
sat quietly in the next room to await the explosion. Soon there
aunt*s hairdo minus the bun and could not restrain her chuckling.
This spread to others who saw what had happened. The victim at
last realized what had occurred and that she was the butt of
the laughter and the whole room became a boisterous scene with
every one wondering who was the real naughty boy. I went in to
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hand back the two missing articles and, while inwardly feeling
would go to the room overlooking the front street and watch the
a monk walking jauntily with his right hand up in the air carrying
pressing forward back to his temple. X saw some red liquid inside
some tasty bean sauce steamed pork underneath the innocent looking
and insisted upon seeing what he had besides the bean curdle.
Iri his nervous attempt to keep me away, he dropped the plate and
there splashed the red pork as well as the white curdle, to the
embarrassed and dashed away. It was fun but X felt it was a little
monk got a reprimand from the abbot of his temple for thus
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happy and in fact eager to study at Mr. Chu^ school and had taken
father was planning for me. Early in 1898 when the Chinese New
own children for the same purpose and who was willing to have
me join them in the studies under the same teacher who was an
was to get ready for it. He broke the news to me so suddenly that
thing ready and remained behind at home to carry out his new
The front door of the huge house naturally quite becoming of a promi
was for the loss of the grandmother of the family. She had died a
little over a month earlier and all the members from the mandarin
school room and introduced to the teacher. The latter was a fellow
I found there were altogether four pupils besides me, two sons,
one daughter and one niece of the mandarin. The room was large
was meticulous and painstaking. When lunch time came, meals were
served in the classroom and he and the pupils ate together. The
food was fine but I did not eat much. Everything seemed so different
the other pupils stiff and formal quite in contrast to what I had
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school was no place for me. On returning home met by our chair
his mandarin friend^ even more odious private school. On the way
not come near me with his heavy physique and panting heavily as
lunch, I suspected some one from my own family had been there
came after me and with his two hands lifted me into his chair
and sat down himself. We were instantly carried aloft and back
to home. As soon as the carriers lit down the chair, I got away
from my father*s grip and ran into our house and upstairs into
fall on the floor and break into pieces. This disaster made her burst
into crying with tears dropping down her face, and led my father
The struggle between him and me, however, was not over. It
alert not to escape from my room by another door and lock myself into
another room, the windows of which opened not on the courtyard but
refusal to attend the new school must have a good reason or must have
been based upon a strong feeling on my part. I had always been eager
to study at Mr. Chi^s school and had made good progress. Even on a
raining or snowing day I declined to listen to her advice and stay home but
always went to school. So it could not be for fear of hard work or for
In her opinion, I was destined to make a good mark in the world and should
objected. Why should not my father let me go back to the old school
what was really good for me and my future. This persuasive appeal for a
truce had its effect and my father consented, though with obvious
the fact that I did not join my fellow pupils together at the start
long association.
My father was not happy because of the frustration of his plan for
me. Nor was I after I went back to the old school, though not knowing
what to do. Perhaps all this was known to my sister who had recently
married and whose young husband had just joined a new Presbyterian
there and this suggestion was heartily endorsed by my mother and sister.
My father did not indicate his feeling at the time but he must have
at home.
The new surroundings and new studies were refreshing. I started the
study of the English language at the college along with arithmetic and
geography. There were about fifty boys in the English class and the
upon competition. Besides the usual chair and desk for each pupil in the
classroom, there were four benches ranged two on each side of the
teacher. On these benches were seated a dozen selected pupils who had
made the best records in spelling. The others remained in their original
seats. Those seated on the benches were arranged according to age. The
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The teacher would announce a word to be spelled to the whole class and
those not seated on the benches were given the first opportunity. If no
youngest boy on the benches. If he failed, the next boy would have the
opportunity to spell it. If he could not do it, the one next to him would
be given the chance, and so on. I was chosen among the twelve boys and
as I was the youngest, I was given the last place on the four benches.
The whole process was exciting and the spirit of rivalry and
competition was very keen. By one chance after another, I was moved
I attained the top seat, I formed the hope and made up my mind to do
my best to retain it. Many other boys naturally had the same ambition
to reach the honor seat and keep it, especially the one who had lost
it and who naturally wanted to regain it. Thus every time the class met
- and we met three times a week, it was an exciting event for all. It
the general examinations held toward the end of the semester in 1899.
Anglo-Chinese College to work out all the marks on the percentage basis
and add them up to a total. This total was the determining factor
in numbering him in the general and comprehensive list of the names of the
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of all would head the list and his name would be followed by that
of the second highest total marks and so on. This practice was
held throughout the length and breadth of the land for centuries as
student body, I harbored the secret ambition of heading the college list
at the end of the semester. It was not that I had wanted the honor of
the fact that I had been doing well in all my studies and more particu
ears of some students had given rise to a general expectation and had
served to raise my goal. But unfortunately it was not in the cards for
I had found the easiest of all and in which I had been able to get
100 every week, I failed to get the maximum marks. I recall that my class
had about fifty students and for the final examination ten questions
were posted to them all. It was from nine o^lock to noon. I was
was already working with the tenth, expecting to finish the whole
test in another five minutes when my teacher who had always been very
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sympathetic to me came over and asked how I was getting on, adding
that more than four fifths of my classmates had finished their work,
handed in their paper and left the room. This well-intentioned reminder
gave me a shock and/quickly said that 1 was near the finish also. In
the hurry to complete my work, I forgot to add the last two sums to
produce the correct answer. This inadvertence reduced my total for the
general list and my name was given the 8th place amidst some 350
had fully expected me to receive the much coveted first honor, even
though in the 8th place I was given a prize in the form of a huge English
dictionary.
other day, I would be seized with violent shivering and high fever would
follow, making me feel very sick with a complete loss of appetite. Though
one of the best known doctors in town - a Doctor Chang, nephew of the
doctor was as much disappointed as she was and could offer no good
a local drugstore and boiled into a stew, usually black in color, for the
mid-July and it was not until October when the weather in Shanghai
I got rid of the fever then but my convalescence took another month before
X was able to get about as usual. By that time, the second semester at
around for a school as a stop-gap for the rest of the Chinese calendar
year which would end some time in February 1901. I enrolled in the
Wang Family Day School, which was headed by a Mr. Wang, a returned student
from Japan and run on the lines of a modern school. The curriculum
was a fairly large school with an attendance of about 100 boys, mostly
men all decided to transfer to St. John's College, whose fame was
official world, such as Alfred Sze and his brother Thomas after
John's College and two days later in that of Nanyang College. This
saw them then and for a time I was tormented by the pangs of indecision.
But when Chiang came to bring me the news of our common success at St.
St. John's. What influenced me most at the time, I think, was the
fact that if I went with him and his friends to St. John's, they
could all look after me and the additional reason which was
decisive for me was that my mother and sister were both strongly in
favor of his view for this very reason. I readily yielded to his urging,
for after all I was then only a little over 13 and felt the need of his
form, social reform. Public opinion was very much upset by the
with the result that great calamities befell the country, such
Uprising*
The general talk was not only for reforms but the estab
pay less attention to the study of the Classics* There were two
Hunan and Hupei in the Yangtze valley. The other group was
who was all in sympathy with the new ideas advocated by the party
over to Japan to study. That was the nearest country, the least
felt much more keenly the need to reform Chinese studies. The
of new ideas and was more than welcome to the students. I remem
lectures became very popular. We the students were more than in
could mean much more to the students than just reading the Classics.
and writings.
market place, you see, that the leaders of the reform movement
Emperor Kuang-hsu was in their favor, they also knew that the
obstruct the reforms* That was why the reform movement failed*
Dowager* I was conscious of the general unrest and the talk that
much too young, of course, to grasp the full import of what was
really underlying the great movement but I remember very well the
feeling and the vague hope shared with the rest of the people, my
family, the general populace, that the reform movement would succeed.
reverses which had befallen the nation such as the disastrous de
call about the War? Well, only stories of the fighting* In those
days there were no reliable war news bulletins* The local papers
which were very few in Shanghai printed only what was announced
by the authorities and they were very cursory for lack of good
and couldn’t get up and our troops massacred them. Why? Because
and once they fell, they couldn’t get up! This illustrates the
that China was defeated, Formosa was lost to us, and an indemnity
was «iforced upon us. We felt very depressed without fully re
three Chinese teachers and they used the new method. The other
teachers didn’t teach me, but I suppose they must have been
equally interesting. No, the students did not express their views
-f <
must have impressed the authorities of the college also - the fact
John’s were encouraging but at the same time they must have been
which had not taken place in the three decades since the founding
of the college.
The general feeling was that every time China had to deal with a
foreign power, she always lost out. We found this most distaste
was full of a sentiment for reform and that was a good thing. The
don’t recall that there was much talk about Sun Yat-sen.
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there were any, they could not have been very enlightening. It
was in English. You see, one of the weak spots in the missionary
for example, history, I remember very well Chinese history was not
taught at St. Johnfs. Only United States and English history was
paid not much better than employees of the college. They were pro
remember that the science teacher was an Englishman and his wife
students who had studied there from the first year of the pre
but what the missionary movement needed. What they wanted most
that my classmates and I began to feel more keenly the need for
we simply felt that something was wrong and new methods and ideas
who else were to go. Well, it turned out that four of my class
were going. The other two were nephews of Dr. Alfred Sze, Henry
and Phillip. They had been told to go abroad and study, I suppose
how long I would have to stay abroad. When I told her it would
mean at least four or five years, she objected all the more. I
tried my best to explain to her that that was the thing to do,
going^ too, and that quite a few at St. John’s had already left.
I told her that Alfred Sze and Thomas Sze had studied abroad and had
come back. That was what China needed. And I wanted also to get
a new education. She was never convinced, but I went ahead with
the preparations.
off, especially since the other boys were going to do the same
to have my queue cut off. I said yes. He cut it off and charged
me, I think, double the ordinary fee* But it was a courageous
who was shocked at the sight and wept. She took it and put it
really upset.
One day I spoke to my father. You see the fare for the trans
August, 1904. Three Sze boys - Henry, Philip and Allen - Allen
the launch. The sea was very choppy as we approached the big
ship. I was closely behind Mr. Yang, who did not understand a
and was very clumsy in his movements. I wanted him to get onto
the ladder first, you see, to be sure that he got on the boat.
As he tried to step onto the ladder, the launch rolled and he step
ped right into the water. I quickly got hold of him, but there was
with both hands I prevented him from sinking. He had one foot
in the air. Our other companions c$me along and helped to lift
him out* He was quite frightened* You know, in our cabin as we
laughed and teased him, he was angry. He said, "You people had
all the time urged me to cut my queue off, I refused^and you see
Alfred Sze who took charge of the group. I think he had a com
the son of the viceroy of Kiangsu, Mr. Tuan-fang, had been study
ing there the year before and he was quite satisfied with the school.
floor; the boys were on the second and third floors. The
grown right on the farm attached to the school. There was very
and get a cup of cocoa for five cents. Ten cents for an egg sand
how much we knew and how much we still had to study. Seeing how
in one year and he had a very good reason for it. He, like me,
was a self-supporting student or rather was supported by his
family and his father had made plans for him for five years*
He could only spend one year <&n preparatory work if he was going
must try to complete our preparatory work in one year. The princi
pal was quite willing to see how we got along. We did finally
think there were more than a hundred and thirty students. There
were about two boys to one girl. Did we find co-education strange?
Well, we were shy. You know we were not able to speak English
very well. The students were curious and took a friendly interest
to help. The same was true of the teachers. The principal was
Dr. Norton. He and his wife made a wonderful couple. They took
we wanted.
got more and more vexed. No matter how he explained, she could
her how l solved a particular problem. So after class she came and
of scissors. She could not understand how the square of the hy
the other two sides. I drew a right triangle, you know, a rather
cut it, you see, and measured the hypotenuse and she found it
worked out exactly right. So then she understood. You know the
piece of paper cut and then turning around and measuring it ex
actly, she saw that it came out right. She was exhilerated and
I remember the next day in class she dashed up to the teacher and
Academy except that, toward the end, I was told the Board of
sity* My teacher told me that X did not have to take the examina
how exempt under the regulations* The other subjects I passed and
I remember arguing time and again with Carlos, who was my room
the first place, he said that an engineer^ career was much more
independent, one did not have to bow and scrape to the higher authori
security; so long as you had the skill you could always be sure
that you would be kept at whatever work you were called upon to
do. It was a career which would insure you a living. China was
One might even sacrifice one!s life* Carlos referred to the fall
which would be for the good of the country, Hot that I had any
fact, he had, in conformity with the fashion and in line with the
for me, in preparation for an official career. The idea was that
I would start off a few grades ahead of the others. In the third
merely make a simple living. What China needed most was a new
while the certificate from the Board of Regents of New York State
to pursue.
Finally, I left the question open and went with Carles
said, ”Forget this problem of yourS|> DonTt worry about what you
He said that he felt sure that in the course of two years - fresh
Columbia.
The idea was for the freshman class to challenge the sophomores
by taking down the flag which the sophomores had put on top of a
columns for the attack. They were to send someone to climb the
pole and take down the flag* I was, of course, with my class,
to head out for the pole and climb up. But for a time I felt
He tried to pull me down but I did all I could and got away. We
me over the heads of the sophomores onto the pole and I took
down the flag. That was really a flag day for me. The whole class
wiM jubilant and, of course, we sang and booed and the sopho
mores booed back at us, but we had our fun. That also gave me a
One day, late in the fall, word was passed around to the
found out that the hiding place was at Dobbs Ferry or Yonkers.
from the frontj others were to attack from the right, left, and
Soon there was a melee all around. A great big fellow tackled me,
and I would have had no chance. I got into a scuffle with some
the upper hand. But again a boy from the crowd shouted, M3top,
only one against oneI” I felt greatly relieved and also im
heat of battle.
was in cho^.s because the column advancing from the front had
already entered. The prisoners had been released and they had
cause and together fought the policemen and firemen. That was
about four firemen with one engineer. They were disarmed and
its veracity has never been verified - that the town council
that the next time Columbia students - more than five, I think -
approached the town, an alarm was to be sent out, the women were
the two classes into trouble, at least the class officers, who
were sent for by the dean of the college, who gave them a scold
major field had been dissolved. There was no longer any question
when I read the newspapers every morning, the first thing 1 would
look for was news of China. While studying in the United States
happening in China.
through the university and was impressed by the fact that the
impressed by the beauty of the capital of the Uhki Slitfu. But what
think he finished his work there* His reception was most friendly,
in the fall of 1904, the Russo-Japanese War had just broken out.
important part and that the Conference finally agreed, on the advice
time that the Japanese delegates saw the wisdom of dropping the
that time, the Japanese were popular in the bnited States. The
fact that little Japan had shown its will and ability to defeat the
big bear in the north caught the imagination of the American people.
for insisting upon a peace that did not carry with it a war in
reputation.
came to know them fairly well. You know, they took a special
interest in me and I was invited to their homes to have lunch or
structor. His lectures were always well attended and they were
surprised. Not until v/e were both seated did he start to speak.
He had been calii^the roll and had just gotten to the letter TTKM.
at me and said very calmly, TtKoo, we see you made it, but you
pointed to the door and said that was the regular, conventional
and writer. Both of them, you know, took a very keen interest
Moore and Professor Beard for advice whenever I had some problem
to solve.
were given at his home not for the student body but people of
and dates, the names of persons and places; what was much more
important was to learn where to look for them. That way you
keep your mind clear and you could do your own thinking and not
remember he would sometimes remain long behind the class was over
and put himself out to answer questions. Time and again he would
of state for a time, and I think time and again he was acting
But we were also impressed by his keen interest in life that was
were many campus whispers about his political ambitions and his
had been put up and so much expansion and development had taken
not only in the country, but in the world. I felt that this was
In the case of Keppel he still had his office on the first floor
of Low Memorial Library, on the left as you go in. You see, his
office was on the left and the President’s office was further
China and the United States, something like that. Once or twice
President Butler
in my student days, h* referred to me personally when I attended
for all freshmen* It was not until the end of the year that
I found out that those who did not take the course, Latin A,
plish in the course of one summer what would normally take four
sciences. He explained that the B. S.? degree did not mean that
and take Latin A. Since I was a Chinese student and he did not
know how much a Chinese student could do, he thought that I might
there and live with him in order to take lessons from him.
was to start from the very beginning and to finish four years
St. Johnfs who told me that he was coming to the United States.
He gave me the date of his arrival with his group and begged me
to meet them in New York, I said this was something which
I could not turn down and asked for a leave of absence of two days#
on my return that two weeks1 work had been lost# I was torn
me that I must not overstay my leave. I went and met them and then
the textbook used was a very thin one, perhaps not over a hundred
pages. The first lecture was on the first page and a half, but I
could not make head or tail out of what was being said in the
lecture and I read the first page and a half over and over again.
tively easy and I enjoyed very much the laboratory work every
it turned out that I passed every test which used to take place
every six weeks, £o, I got through this course to my own satis
donTt think I weighed more than 105 pounds. But that was pre-
it up. For two weeks I went out and rowed on the Harlem. It
was interesting but I felt I was not doing my job well. The
members who were not keeping their oars in order. I did all I
could, but they did not seem to take much notice of what I was
saying. So, at the endof two weeks, I decided to quit and I told
I told him that I did not know how to swear as he told me to do.
He said that anybody could learn how to swear; that was a very
easy thing. But I said no, my English was not sufficient for
team. I went in for the 100-yard sprint and the 220-yard hurdle
race. But I wasnTt fast enough. That was apparent from the very
mile and the half-mile race and kept working at it, but I was not
satisfied, nor was the coach, with the progress that I was making*
finally he suggestfc/that I should try the cross-country race,
from University Hall or behind the gymnasium to 96th Street
along Riverside Drive* I remember it was long and arduous. On
my way back, when I saw a number of my fellow contestants drop
ping off, I was very much tempted to do the same thing* But there
were stations along the road* The coach and his assistants
had recruited many upperclassmen and they were yelling at me:
TTKoo, don’t quit! Don’t be a quitter! Keep it up!” Those
words impressed me very strongly and I kept up the race each time
and usually finished if not last, probably next to the last
man, quite a few minutes behind those that had already arrived*
I was never much of a success at cross-country, but I
remember I worked very hard for the shorter distances. I got up
early every morning to practice on South Field. This was in
front of the two dormitories, Hartley and Livingston* Sven when
I went away in the summer, as when I spent the summer with my
Latin teacher at Middletown, I worked very hard for six weeks
hoping to make some progress* But competition was very keen at
Columbia and I never made much of an impression on the coach
or my fellow contestants* I had my only satisfaction from the
attempt to be something on the track when I won a relay race
between the two dormitories on South Field*
I took up cane spree in the gymnasium at the persuasion
of the gymnasium director, but I had been at it only about two
exert all oneTs energy in getting the cane away from one's
opponent. The cane was about the length of a baseball bat, but
attempt to get the cane from one's opponent was good exercise
that didn't suit me very much or rather, for which I wasn't very
well qualified. I was of relatively small build and was not tall
line and my partner at the net. Vihat won the tournament was his
a small boy then. But one day I got the ball right in the middle
Society.
the cast of the Sophomore Show. The title of the show was
contestants and the cast was made up of not more than a dozen
experience.
g^rl member, a Miss Cook. It was reported that she had been
of politicc1 ideas. Like many other young Chinese of my time, I felt that
felt also that this was itself due to the weakness, inefficiency, and corruption
of the Manchu Dynasty. The general feeling among Chinese youths was that
China could not be strong without overthrowing this alien regime But I
went home not to study political conditions, but in response to the call
of my father. My visit was limited to a few weeks and was taken mainly
for personal reasons, so I did not go deeply into the situation in China
at the time.
My conclusion was that there was much that the Chinese people could
do to improve the conditions of their country, and yet they were not doing
very much. The people who should take the initiative were not allowed to
do so. I felt that something was radically wrong with the government, which
should have been encouraging the people to do things but had instead dis
interesting, perhaps, for the light which it sheds on the old and new
were rather rigid. In those days, when they reached their teens, boys and
girls were not supposed to make friends or even to see one another The
social life of the Chinese people of all classes, especially of the upper
entertainment there
was, for business or official reasons, was arranged as stag
affairs. The womenfolk never took part. Even on important oc
casions such as weddings, birthday parties, and funerals, when
relatives and friends would come either to congratulate or to
condole, men and women would take their meals separately. Ten
would usually have their lunches and dinners in one part of the
building; the women in another.
It was left largely to the professional matchmakers or
close relatives of the family to make proposals for marriage.
It was also true that parents of daughters were more anxious for
their daughters to be engaged than were parents of boys. In my
case, a number of proposals were brought by professional match
makers. Sven when I was as young as eleven, my mother mentioned
the subject to me in a very discret^ way in order to sound out
my feelings. I had no interest at all in an engagement or marriage,
but as more and more proposals came, my parents began to pay more
attention. One particular proposal appeared to appeal to them.
It came from the family of the famous ,TDeaf Doctor Chang”,
who might be called the dean of the Chinese medi
cal corps. The proposal, brought by a matchmaker known to both fami
lies concerned the grandniece of the,fDeaf Doctor Chang”. Che was
the only child of the family, two years younger than I. Ky
mother tried half humorously to find out my reaction. I was then
too young really to understand or be interested in the idea. I
.just dismissed the idea but the thing dragged on. Other proposals
were withdrawn in due course, but this one stayed, and the
matchmaker would come every now and then to ask for a reply.
It was not until I was twelve and a half that a confer
ence between my parents settled the matter for me without letting
me know. My only recollection was of the girlrs father, who
was also a doctor. My parents told me that he was very fond of
me. About two years earlier,when my sister was seriously ill,
he used to come every day to attend her. One late afternoon he
paused to talk to me and look over my copy of a Chinese painting.
It was spread out on the table and he stopped to look at it, ex
pressing his admiration.
The engagement was made without evoking any thrill, I
assure you, on my part, perhaps because I was too young to under
stand the meaning ofan engagement. In accordance with the
custom of the times, the ceremony of engagement was quite an
event. There was a procession of engagement gifts from the boyTs
family to the girl’s family, and there were return presents from
the girl’s family to the boy’s family. The busiest people were
the official go-betweens. They were selected by the families to
represent them respectively, usually some prominent friends or
relatives. It was a whole-day celebration, but it was not part
of the social code for the boy and the girl to meet. In any
case, I did not meet my fiancee. I had no idea how she looked or
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how she was getting along in her studies. The only thing that
went through ray mind v/as that the girl should not bind her feet
and that she should attend a modern school. This was known to
my parents but I think they took no steps to convey the idea.
The event was over without producing any thrill on ray part. I
suppose there was no more thrill on the girl’s part, but for
that matter I would not know.
Time went on and I left for America in 1904j rfhen I
v/as sixteen years old. I gave no more thought to my engagement.
Three years later, during my junior year, my father, v/ho used
to write to me regularly, wrote to say that he was getting on
in age, that all my brothers and sisters had married, and I was
the only one of the five children that had not yet started a home.
He gently suggested that as I was finishing my studies, I should
go home and get married. This was quite a surprise to me and
I felt somewhat upset. I v/as then completely absorbed in my
studies, in campus life, in my activities outside the campus,
and had some definite ideas about what I wanted to do later in
life. I had no thought of marrying, whether this girl or any
other. So I wrote back to say that the most important thing was
to complete my education and that v/ould still take some time;
marriage should take place after I had finished my studies and
had entered upon a definite career so that I would be able to
support a family and not^like so many young men of my generation^
be dependent on my parents for the support of the new familv. t
and marry after I returned, which he hoped would not be too far
me the impression that the girl herself was very worthy, beauti
ful, and intelligent, and that sne would make a good life partner*
later. In the evening he was with my mother and they sent for
arrange for the marriage of their children, and that I was the
only one in the family for whom he had not yet arranged a marriage
could take things easy and enjoy whatever was left of his lifespan
It was a very serious talk and left me with the impres
future and career. I said I was not the only child, that I
was one of three sons, that both my brothers had already married,
and he already had grandchildren. I said that they did not need
obviously displeased, his face red. And that was the end of the
conference.
his very best for me, and that I was in a fortunate position
to have a father who was able to bear all the financial responsi
had been through many difficult periods in his life and that he
was a self-made man risen from poverty as a result of the TTai
titled to enjoy the rest of his life with peace of mind and joy
to eat and would not let anybody in his room. My brother told
the window and had .seen the old man in tears* He said that I
said that he could see that my father was right - I was too modern
and too much imbued with western ideas. After all, he said, we
bluntly, what I should do. He said the only thing was to say
yes and let the old man go ahead - that would be the last thing
as he had already made plain to me. My father had told him that
he had never expected to raise a child and give him the best of
his mind. This not only disillusioned him but took away all
was concerned* I felt that my father v/as taking the matter too
with whom I had always been close, I had two brothers. The
second one was just two years older than I. The eldest was
him unhappy for the rest of his life. In fact, he said, one
could not tell what might happen if the old man persisted in
he thought I could not be too selfish and just have my way without
the middle.
me. Besides the good name of my father, he also felt that ray
I took no interest whatever and went about rny own way, visiting
The same v/as true of the return visit of the bridegroom to the
formal visit to the girl’s family and the go-betweens o° the girl’
After all this was over, the regular ceremony began with
a lon^; procession of marshals on horseback, bands of musicians,
several courtyards, the main hall was way back. It was rather
tives. They were all looking for the bridegroom] They finally
see that the bride had arrived. It was time for the ceremony.
testily, on the theory that he who knelt first would find himself
would give in. After a while we made a sort of bow to each other
with a silk ribbon half red and half green tied to the arms of
the bride and groom. More music was played and more guests
satin embroidered outer robes, keeping the long gown on. This v/a
that t'ie bride and groom were to retire to their privacy and
all the guests were to leave their room. As the guests left,
Nobody took any notice until about half an hour later, when the
bridesmaids began to look for the bridegroom and could not find
see, because it was still hot, my mother made her sleeping quar
them not to insist too much upon my going to the bridal chamber.
She saw that I was tired and let me have a good night’s sleep.
mother’s room again the second night and several nights following
until my mother told me one day that she wanted to use her own
room and that it was not right for me to stay away from my
sleep in the big bed, I said no, that was for her, dhe said
that if I wanted to sleep alone, she would take the couch and I
could sleep in the bed. So that went on for a few nights without
he left for his office and told him that as the ceremony had been
idea of being forced into the position of looking after rny wife
when I would have a lot to do at Columbia* I tried to argue
your young wife behind? You must remember, she comes from a
her parentsT eyes* You canTt leave her like tnat.TT He made
ahead and booked the passage and he gave me the money to pay
for it.
The preparations for our trip occupied all our time.
The bride, I'm sure, fully understood the situation, but Chinese
had, they would not insist upon theiju Her role was to do what she
was told. She was willing, perhaps half delighted, that I was
to take her. We shared a cabin and for over two weeks we tra
velled together. After the heat in Shanghai and the worry and
must have been exhausted;because I was quite seasick all the way.
life abroad and the conditions she would find in the United
some place outside of New York for her to study English. That
would be the best way for her to learn English quickly. She
was good for her, for her education, and the conditions she
English.
The next day, when all arrangements had been made, I left for
New York. In this connection, I might say that her total ignoranc
of the English language and her small feet did not bother me
very much. My brother in his letters to me before I left New
York had assured me that she had made rapid progress in English
and that she had natural feel. But it didn’t make much difference
to me actually, because it was of no interest to me personally.
I went to see her whenever I could and always when
there was a holiday, whether Christmas or Easter. I would
take her out to have a Chinese dinner or to see a picture, but
the main burden of our conversation consisted of an exchange of
ideas as to what each of us wanted to do. I also explained to her
that the important thing for each of us was to have a career
and to do what we could to serve our country and our people.
In order to do that, one must be well prepared. She readily
understood. As to personal problems, I told her that we should
aim at happiness, and happiness could come only when it was based
on love. That v/as something which could come only naturally. In
our case we had never known each other, never even seen each other.
We were thrown together as husband and wife purely because of
arrangements made by our parents without even consulting us. It
was so in my case, and I presumed it was so in hers. And she
confirmed it. When her parents mentioned the matter to her, she
was never allowed to express her views. And, of course, she
could not;because not having seen me, she could not have formed an
opinion. So, from the very start, she seemed to understand that
this sort of marriage was too artificial and too unnatural,
ment or recreation and talk about our future. There was never
when she had been here almost a year, she had learned some
could also speak some English. I’m sure the landlady and her dau
ghter, who took a great interest in her, must have given her a
best for both of us. I believe she did not express either con
lizing fully the significance of all that v/e had talked about.
She merely asked what was to be done since we had been formally
agreement. Sometime lateral brought her the draft and asked her
to study it to see if she understood everything and if she wanted
any changes. Several months passed, I went to see her. She
said she could not think of anything to suggest for revision and
that if I wanted to have the agreement signed, she was ready to
sign it, I told her that in order to avoid unfounded gossip or
cause unhappiness to her parents or mine, it would be best tor
her to make the copies in her own handwriting to show that she
did so without any pressure on my part. This suggestion she
readily accepted. I suggested she should prepare four copies,
which she did. It took her, I think, a couple of weeks before she
wrote to me that the copies were ready.
It was sometime in 1911, I think, that we signed the
agreement. It was stated in the agreement that each of us was
to keep a copy, one copy was to be sent to her parents, another
copy to my parents. We parted in a very friendly way. After
wards she said that she did not knov; whether she wanted to re
turn home right away; she v/as going to continue because she
had become interested in her studies. I went to see her as usual
every now and then. I believe it was not until the latter part
of 1911, after the Revolution, that she returned to China. jwent and
event took place which was of great interest to me. I refer to the
Roosevelt. It was reported at the time that the United States was
the United States Treasury after all claims raised by American citizens
to take it, you simply could not graduate.ft That scared me and
I said I would do it sometime the following week. He said the
following week would be the last chance I would have and suggest
ed that I do it the following Monday and not put it off to the
later part of the week. I went Monday and I passed most of the
test: swimming with breast strokes, you see, from one end of the
of "thn pool to the other; I swam on my back; sidestroke; every
thing, Then finally I had to go up to the tower and dive down,
I went up and came down without diving. He said, "WhatTs the
matter?" I said that I couldnft do it, "No, no," he saidf"You
come with me," And so he said, "Jump, jump!" I couldn’t do it.
I just came down instead. He came down and grabbed me and said,
"You come up." I got up to the tower nnd the third time it
somehow seemed even higher than ever before. He said, "Now,
be courageous, close your eyes and jump." He said, "I know you
can’t dive headonward but you just step right out with your
eyes shut." I did and plunged right in. I remember very well
that my feet touched bottom^__I^got so scared^ But I popped
right up. And the moment I popped up, I swam to the ladder, got
out, and said,"What do you think of it?" "Well," he said, "You
did it but you did it very clumsily." That was the last hurdle
in graduating from Columbia College.
From the beginning of 1909, I registered as a student
in the Law School and as a post-graduate student in the Depart
ment of Political Science. I took up law on the advice of
Professor Moore, my professor in my major field, which was
international law and diplomacy. As I hatf£ said before, I often
went to Professor Moore for advice in connection with my studies.
He took a fatherly interest in me and sometimes spent a great
deal of time discussing what I should or should not do in connection
with my preparations for a public career* He advised me strongly
that I should register in the Law School not so much to acquire
1k degree of LL*B, but to get a knowledge of the fundamentals
of statutory and common law. In his opinion, t>fce Anglo-American
Common Law was an inexhaustible reservoir of the pronciples of
law which were at the bottom of the Anglo-American judicial
system. He felt strongly that a knowledge of private law would
be of great help later in my career dealing with international
law and diplomacy as he had found out in his own experience.
He not only cited as evidence of his conviction the great work
which he edited and compiled, International Arbitrations, but
recalled to me how essential he found a knowledge of law in
dealing with practical, concrete problems which arose in the
foreign relations of any country, as he had found in the power
relations of the United States. As you know, he was assistant
secretary of state for several years and at one time was acting
secretary of state. I studied in the Law School for two years
and followed the curriculum, that is, I took every course ex
cept those relating to procedure.
My studies in my major field, international diplomacy,
were under Professor John B. Moore. I took two minors - consti
tutional and administrative law under Professor Goodnow and govern
ment under Professor Beard. I consulted Professor Moore as to
whether it would be necessary to work for an M. A. jn answer
to my inquiry, Professor Moore said that if I wanted to take an
M. A. degree, all I had to do was to write a thesis. So I decided
to work for an M. first. Professor Moore assigned
a subject for my thesis: "History and Law of the Case of TCalderaf.T!
Now I would like to take up the topic of my prepara
tions for the Ph. D. and my post-graduate studies in general
at Columbia. It had always been my desire to continue my studies
after graduation from Columbia College. As I stated before, the
requisite number of credits had been fulfil]ed at the end of
three years. So, in my senior year at Columbia College, I was
really doing post-graduate work. In 1909, I obtained a Master’s
Degree along with my B. A.
The subject of my doctoral dissertation was "Alien
Claims against the Chinese Government", a subject which Profes
sor Moore said was of great practical importance and concerning
which very little had been written. Having compiled his monumental
work, International Arbitrations, which deals with international
claims of one government against another or a group of governments
against another^ Professor Moore was, of course, deeply interested
in this subject. He felt that something should be written to carry
the thought a step further and produce something in international
jurisprudence which would stimulate the interest of other
students of international law. I remember he suggested something
along the same line to S. M. Borchald. Borchald and I worked in
the same seminar room, the two of us facing each other, and we
discussed and argued and debated various aspects of our studies.
He later took up teaching at Yale University, became professor
of international law there, and published that standard work on the
diplomatic protection of American citizens abroad.
[ worked on my subject for two years trying to collect
all the relevant data. It was a new subject and a relatively
new field. The Chinese sources were not too well organized, but
I had to work on them as part of the primary sources. Other
sources were the British parliamentary reports which are known
generally as the Blue Book; the reports of the French Ministry
of Foreign Affairs to the Chamber of Deputies, known generally
as the fellow Book; and similarly, the Black Book of the German
Foreign Office. In that respect the Columbia library was very
good, and I spent about two years in the basement of Low Library
going through the different source books and marking the pas
sages to be copied. I typed myself and also got a typist to
help.
VJhile this work was going on, I was interested in many
extra-campus activities such as the Chinese Students1 Alliance^
the Chinese Students Monthly, the political events going on in
China, the Chinese StudentsT Summer Conferences. Following the
outbreak of the Revolution in 1911, I suddenly realized that
three years had elapsed since the completion of my undergraduate
studies and I had not yet started writing my dissertation. Somehow
or other the Revolution opened a new vision of opportunities
for young people trained abroad to serve the country* This
vision dawned on me with great force, the more so because,
theretofore, I had had little inclination towards entering the
Chinese Imperial Government Service, even though my father was
most anxious that I should do so and had already taken steps to
prepare for my mandarin career* I remember the Imperial Govern
ment went quite far in its attempts to encourage the return of
Chinese students from abroad and to enlist their services. Many
of my friends and former schoolmates, such as Pang-sheng Chu and
Carlos Sun, who had come abroad with me, Samuel Young, and
Fong Sec, who studied in Teachers1 College about the time that
I was attending Columbia College, Dr* W* W. Yen and Mr. Alfred
Sze, who had already joined the civil service of China, had
taken part in the imperial examination set up especially for the
purpose of enlisting returned students from abroad.
I had always been interested in diplomatic relations and
had wanted to improve the conduct of ChinaTs foreign affairs, but
I wasntt very keen on entering official life, which was then
very much criticized by public opinion. My early determination
to enter the foreign service had been left in abeyance, especially
after Carlos Sun argued with me in favor of a professional career.
After the first year at Columbia I had made up my mind that a
professional career would not be interesting to me. And as I
worked on the Spectator and on the Chinese Students1 Monthly.
I became increasingly interested in writing. I had the vague
notion of founding a Chinese newspaper in China. Later, as I
took up law, I had the idea of taking up legal practice. These
thoughts, I suppose, passed through my mind for a period. As
you will see later, I was led to give them up altogether as the
Revolution took place and the spirit to serve the country was
quickened once more.
i.'7hat was the reaction of the Chinese students in
America to news of the Uprising? The news came as a great
surprise. I remember for several days we lost interest in our
studies and concentrated on the news, buying one edition after
another of the afternoon and evening papers and sometimes tele
phoning the Herald office for more information. The Revolution
impressed us as having succeeded quite easily. We felt that
the mutiny of the Imperial troops at Hankow was a very good signal
of the cause, because these troops were considered part of
for the success p-f the model army that the government relied upon
to uphold the throne. A part of it, I think^was under the com
mand of a Manchu general. The deputy commander was Li YUan-hung.
When these troops, I think it was one division, revolted at
Wu-chTang, the Manchu general disappeared and the deputy general
as far as we knew at this end, was asked to assume command and he
did. We knew the revolution did not take place according to
schedule. Some of the students had a sort of pipeline to the
W-Srhe TTung-meng-hui, you see, men like V/. F. Chen and S. T.
Kang, V/. F. Chen was the man who introduced Dr. Sun Yat-sen
to me. S. T. Kang was a mining student; I think he was also
Cantonese. I think they had pipelines through the TTung-meng-
hui in Chinatown.
The insurrection impressed us as being so effective
that vie felt the revolution was sure to succeed. That was our
immediate reaction. Later, our hearts sank when the government
began to send troops down to Hankow to fight the rebels. For
several days we held our breath, eagerly waiting for more news
and hoping that the revolutionary cause would still succeed in
spite of the measures of suppression.
The Revolution intensified my desire to return to
China. I remember I went to my professor and consulted him on
the taking of the oral examination for the Ph. D., and the
necessary preparations. From time to time, of course, I reported
to Professor Moore about my findings in digging out data for
my dissertation. ihis was more laborious than I had expected. V/ith
a full-time typist supplementing my own typing, the data cards
began to pile up. I was very anxious to get on with my work.
I submitted one day an outline of my dissertation. I remember
there were nine chapters and an introduction. The main burden
of the proposed dissertation was to summarize all the cases
of foreign claims against China from the beginning of intercourse
with foreign countries. The introductory chapter was designed
to provide a general background of relations between China
and foreign countries, the status of foreigners, the nature
of the treaties binding on China and the extra-territorial re
gime under which foreigners lived in China. Other chapters were
terr designed to evolve some general principles applied in the
settlement of those claims, the rules for the assessment of
damages, the mode of payment, the question of interest, and
differences between government and individual claims against the
Chinese Government. The proposed table of contents was accepted
as satisfactory with a few suggestions for revision, and that
marked a definite step forward in the preparatory work.
In the fall of 1911, especially after the outbreak of
review the books I had studied, the lectures I had attended, and
the courses of the past year as preparation for the oral ex
amination for the Ph. D, The few months that followed the
long before I felt that I was making good progress, while follow
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and Russia. After a stop for formalities, the train went right
through. All along the railway line there were signs both in Russian i
similar, except that the signboards were in Japanese and Chinese and tin*
was not merely my entry into ^Chinese official life; it was my first
social customs, and life in general between North China and the
hut 1 had had no opportunity to check this. But there it was made
clear to me that Mr. T;ang had recommended not only me but, I think,
1 learned afterwards that before Mr. T;ang left for the United
States, Yd an Shih-k'ai had told him to look out for bright young men,
was one of the purposed of Mr. T!ang's mission. Of course, the scene
had changed radically from the tire Mr. T;ang left China as special envoy.
Among others recommended bb Mr. T'ang was a Nanking boy, Box Tseng.
one of Mr. T'ang's closest friends who had gone abroad with him in the
late seventies. Now that was one who had also been enlisted in the
service of the Prime M nisters' Office. There were others who came to
join the government later. They must have been distributed, I suppose ,
Office and for the Prime Minister's Office, only certain kinds of
fully silent and finally, when Mr. T'ang offered a compromise, the
determination, a born leader of men. Another tiling which struck rne ver
much was the fraternal terms in which he and Mr. T'ang addressed
each other. Mr. T'ang would address Yttan Shih-k'ai as "Mr. President",
and said that I would find my own way back, he insisted on taking rne
back. It was not until two or three days later that I saw him again
He suggested that I should move into the Prime Minister's Office and
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JiH ;» graduate student. I think I spent one year in Livingston Hall, and
six years in Hartley. Back from the United States and far away from my
home in Shanghai, with no relatives near me, living at the Prime Minister's
St. John's dormitory. Not only the customs but the food itself was very
flour, and "hsiao-mi" - birds' food, they call it in the south. The
cooking, of course, was all done Peking style But I was a young man and
not too particular, yet finding it quite trying, at least for the first
few days .
the language, the customs, the atmosphere, the appearance of the streets -
Manchu descent. They spoke Mandarin with a soft accent It was pure Mandarin,
just as the people of Paris speak French with that Parisian accent As
a rule, the men were still wearing long queues; those who apeared here
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The double aspect of life, private, popular, and official, was seen at
every turn. The populace of Peking, high and low, showed a tenacious
inclination to preserve the old customs and manners. On the other hand,
there was also in the air a tendency to adopt new, modern customs and
manners. Even during the first two or three weeks, I noticed the continuous
arrival of men of all ages, principally from the south The older men,
as well as the younger ones, came in clothes much more common in the
clothes. Although the tailoring did not have the mark of Saville Row,
one could see as well as feel the influence of new people from different
parts of the country, chiefly the south, as well as the influx of new
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quite a distinction for a young man who had just returned trom abroad,
especially since most of his colleagues were in their forties. Some were
in their fifties. A few of them had been secretaries of the State Council
which was the highest governing body in the Empire They had passed
There were one or two educated in modern schools, with whom I was able to
get along somewhat easily. The attitude of the older secretaries was
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the dark with very good intentions but with little knowledge of
the government and the Revolutionary Party would develop. Mr. Tang s
sine qua non for the North. So Dr. Sun Yat-sen loyally executed
evidently was not an easy matter. And the fall of I'ang Sbao-i s
coincide with the ideas of the president. Or. T’ang had lived for
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several years during his most impressionable p^rrod ‘ in the united
States and had visited the country a few times. He was able to
write and read English fluently and had maintained his contacts
with his friends abroad and with events of the outside v/orld.
advisors such as Hr. T’ang. His outlook was that of the old
made his name as organizer of the new army and was known also
not like to travel - he had never been south of the Yangtze River.
He was shrewd and knew how to deal with men, but his inclinations
/Ithough they had been sworn brothers for many years and
were very friendly, Mr. T’ang and President Yuan saw many poli
with the TTung-meng-hui, the party of Dr. Sun Yat-sen who had
fill the post. Mr, T,angTs refusal to accept even Chao Ping-
chun, minister of the interior in his own Cabinet, v/a a the straw
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which broke the camels back. The quarrel became critical
important ppointment.
:t was understandable, of course, that President Yuan
should have fought tooth and nail for his own man to fill the
post. Chihli Province was the base of his own political power.
He had been viceroy of the province and had organized the imperial
I said that it had originated far back in Rome where the Roman
to the elected legislative body. Though Rome did not last very
long as a Republic, the idea revived tv. the Middle Ages where the
relatively small in size and their population was not great. The
its working, and its origin traced back to the Magna Carta in the
them their love of freedom and their concept of rights and liberties
country and numerous population. But I said it would only take time
government.
Res Publica meant the public state or the country that belonged to
the people. But he wondered how the people in China could understand
all that. When the Chinese housemaid wanted to clean the house,
she would gather all the dirt and dust and dump it on the public
streets; all she cared was to keep the house clean without any regard
for the condition of the streets. I said that was natural. It was
certainly loved liberty and it was just that they themselves did
introduce laws and institutions with the object of advancing the course
ol democracy. His reply was, how long would that take? Would
conversatIon.
himself did not understand what a Republic should be like and appa
not seem to indicate any keen desire to put either into practice.
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found the atmosphere in the capital very much that of the old
and had to be -- in the old forms. The only changes were in the
Parliament with the manner in which the government was being run,
and some of them did not hesitate to state forcefully that if was
democratic government-
In August, 1912 Dr. Sun carried out his plan of a formal visit
satisfy Dr. Sun Yat-sen and make him refrain from further opposing
cause and the cause of the Kuomintang. It was clear to the people
the straw that broke the camel's back was the sudden assassination
of Sung Chiao-jen, who was one of the ablest and most energetic of
disappearance from the political scene was a great shock not only
to the Kuomintang but also to the country at large. That cert a Inly-
enraged the Kuomintang and began to make it clear to them that there
Civil war once more broke out in July 1913 in those southern provinces
Shortly after the revolt broke out Hsiung Hsi-llng became premier.
was less modernized than T'ang Shao-i but certainly more; progressive
than most of the officialdom in Peking and for that matter in the
country too. But the composition of his Cabinet showed that Yuan
men more or less of his own thinking. Hsiung's government did not
last very long because the new premier found it difficult to carry out
his own policy. He was primarily a financier and believed that foreign
the terms and conditions of the foreign loans should be such as not
to infringe upon the sovereign rights of a nation. But Yuan was most
had been empty and not only was it necessary to have funds with which
Parliament was dissolved and orders were issued for the arrest of
to work out the draft for a new constitution in place of the one that
T'ang was engaged in drafting. This body had only an advisory role
and more around Yuan Shih-k'ai to urge upon him the doctrine of old
to conduct these ceremonies and they were now restored. The new
and rites, and were not much different from those observed under the
Even in the first year or two of the Republic there were signs of
ting had spent a few years in Germany; through his friend, Yin Ch'ang,
German Crown Prince. He was much impressed with the orderliness and
the unchallenged position of the Kaiser himself and the great honor
dynasty with his father as its founder and with himself, eventually,
dynasty and the high officials who had served the emperor before
the revolution and had refused to join in the service of the Republic,
in the center of the capital met the die-hards of the imperial system.
They were not confined to the members of the old officialdom but also
included the disappointed politicians under the Republic and gradually
generally understood that the President himself and his own closest
advisers were in favor of the idea and as time went on, the idea became
the treaty of May 7th, 1915 with Japan, there was no serious question
on the diplomatic front except that the First World War was raging
in Europe. The immediate effect of the war on the commerce and busi
ness of the country was rather favorable, as the need in Europe for
certain supplies and raw materials became more and more pressing. There
advocates of the Imperial System considered the time ripe for pushing
Mexico, the atmosphere in Peking already was thick with the reports of
rule the Chinese people were by nature and in their daily life as fond
v'
of liberty and freedom as any other: it was only that they dLd not
clearly stated that the Emperor should listen to the wishes of tin*
people, and that their will should be taken as the guiding principle
of his rule. It had always been said that the foundation of the state
kept away from anything connected with the movement while I was in
to enlist my support.
prepared to come out in the open and acknowledge it. One Chinese paper,
owned by the Japanese, was most frank and full in the reporting of
That v?as the Shun-1' ien Shih-pao, which was generally understood to
support the movement. The foreign press in Shanghai said very little
at first but the North China Daily News declared itself sympathetically
disposed. In Peking, it was generally understood that the British
Minister to the United States toward the end of 1915, the movement
in Peking was being pushed forward with great energy, and it became
clear that Yuan Shih-k’ai would declare himself Emperor on the New
Year's Day of 1916. Great progress had been made toward that great
fact in a few weeks. Officially, neither the State Department nor the
movement. But, privately, their views were clear to me, and some
about the prospect of success of the new movement in the long run.
One of the few papers abroad which appeared to support the idea was
the London Times in England. The Times took its stand in its
in China, Yuan Shih-k'ai was the man who could do it, provided that he
end of the year, I was struck with a surprising change in the form
directed that in future all official communications sent out from tie
morial to the throne. It was evident that the plan to make Yuan
Shih-k'ai emperor had gone far, and that the promoters had tie whole
sonally, I felt not only surprised but also fairly irritated. I recall
that the Revolution in 1911 time and time again saw Chinese students
government. There were some among us who were strongly for consti
who was working for his M.A. at Columbia. But he did not succeed
a natural one. I sent for the Secretary and instructed hirn to draft
I could learn from the newspapers from China, the people had not
ton was concerned, we would continue to use the old form. Although
Gazette of some weeks later arrived, I found that one of the dis
to the new imperial calendar and given the heading "in memorial
to the throne", which made the rest of the Mission angry. So I sent
out a dispatch of protest that they had no right to alter the form
The rapid push toward the installation of the Imperial rule led
ardent supporters, came out and declared openly in favor of the Republic.
open his eyes that the country really was against the reestablishment
of Imperial rule. And as the war tide turned against the forces
attempt.
It was known in the earlv years of the Republic while I
still in Peking that Yuan was not In sympathy with the republican
of the traditional form of Imperial rule. But he was not too an
xious to approve a change even when his eldest son was actively
promoting it. Perhaps the main factor that made Yuan Shih-k'ai
generations, not a male member had ever lived beyond the age ot
58. Yuan was then in his early fifties and he himself, his family
and his close friends were all afraid of the year when Yuan would
his full support. The curious fact is that he died shortly after
seven other secretaries and I resigned en bloc from the Prime Minister's
Office, as was then the practice. I left Peking for Tientsin because
Mr. T'ang had gone there and I wanted to keep in touch with him. I
was invited to join the T'ang family at luncheon or dinner almost daily
Mr. Liang Shih-i to see Mr. T'ang to consult him on various matters.
Among other things, I consulted Mr. T'ang about my resigning also from
him. Mr. T'ang was very much surprised. He said it was alright for
resignation from the Prime Minister's Office was provided for in the
in what was called the official system since they were appointed at
after my journey via Siberia from the United States. He said that it
was alright for me just to make a trip, but I was young and just.
1,
1
Mr. Liang's visits to Tientsin the latter had brought word that the Presi
T'ang told me that Mr. Liang would be seeing him that afternoon and
Mr. T’ang sent for me. I remember the first thing Mr. T'ang said was
had asked Mr. T'ang to use his influence to urge me to return. Mr.
T'ang said that he had already told me what Mr. Liang had conveyed
after your visit to Shanghai. You may not find enough work to do,
but your place is really in the Foreign Office." He felt sure that
some day I would be there. I told him that Dr. W. W. Yen, who was then
to consult him first. So Mr. T'ang said, "By all means accept the offer."
He said that that was where I could make use of what I had learned
and that the two posts would not conflict, just as there was no
conflict between my work at the President's Office and the Prime Minis
return to the President's Office and begin work at the Foreign Office.
T'ang Shao-i's advice helped me to decide the course of my future work.
for two weeks or more that Mr. Tang took great interest in me and
introduced his daughters to me. I had met May before, at the Kuo Wu
Yuan when her father was still premier, and again on the picnic that
Mr. Tang had suggested soon after my arrival in Peking. Now, at his
my lunch and dinner with them unless I had other engagements. It was
during that period that May and I became quite acquainted. I had
not seen her since the picnic in Peking, because the whole period of
Mr. Tang Shao-i’s tenancy was about a month and the daughters went
May wanted to see her aunt in Shanghai since she had not been to
said she would stay with Mr. Tsung Meng-yu, a relative of hers in
acquainted.
It was after I returned from Shanghai that we became engaged, and
Then Tang Shao-i spoke to me and said he was very glad that we
elderly man in his fifties. Although nothing was wrong, it would not
look very well in Chinese eyes if the father married the day after his
daughter. He was going to marry a young girl, a Miss Wu. Even May
had not known about his plans to marry; the change of date was rather
sudden, only about three or four days before June 2. We were married
about it. Sometimes it was said I met her in Washington while her
sister was married to Mr. Henry Chang, son of the Chinese Minister in
Washington, then Chang Yi-tang, a close friend of Mr. T'ang Shao-i. But
) . .
the truth is that at that time May Tang was never in Washington.
The Foreign Office at PekinR: The Reorgan izat ion of 1912
T had taken up my new post at the Foreign Office, where I was to do most
of my work for the next three years. The Foreign Office, or Wai-
done in the early years of the twentieth century to meet this requirement
but it was more superficial than real. Much of the internal organiza
tion of the Wai-wu-pu which was simply another name for the former
Tsung-li shih-wu ya-men remained the same as before the Boxer Incident.
A few returned students were included to join the service but its work
was still conducted much as before except that nominally one single
When Minister Lu took up the foreign portfolio under Mr. T'ang Shao-
i, the first Premier of the Republic, one of the first things he did
was to reorganize the Ministry and put it on a basis much like the
for submission to the parliament a new law and regulations tor re
for handling foreign affairs assisted by one Vice Minister, and the
questions such as treaties and the enforcement of the laws and regu
unless the candidate recommended was properly trained for foreign service,
by which he also meant service at the Ministry. His idea was wel
comed not only by the members of his own ministry but quite approved
Minister even the President of the Republic did not propose any one,
either from his own office or among the circles of his friends, for
service.
the capital after waiting for office for years without success w«>uld
tative. The size of the new minister's staff was not stipulated hv the
country to be given all the funds necessary for his three years'
ing his mission and also the salary of whatever staff he should
establish. More than that, he would also be given to take with him
the funds required for the payment of the consuls and the upkeep of
in any way he liked. Some of the people he took along with him for
work for no pay, on the understanding that at the end of the three
for promotion. The result of this old system was that the Chinese
introduce some reforms in this sphere but did not go very far. Now
Minister Lu required that not only the head of the diplomatic mission
in a foreign country, but all his staff members and the consul and
of different kinds.
The budget was calculated on an annual basis, but the funds were
Thus both the foreign service abroad and the service in the
not only were special codes used as before, but these codes were
All these measures of reform were much needed and they were
abroad and was a right hand man to him in the Ministry. He was a
closest friends.
about th^ diplomatic questions from bcj^eRs and records but it was quite
ray work both interesting and enlightening. It was one thing to read
all about the diplomatic questions from books and records but it was
famous scholar and spoke French fluently. However he did not speak
But in Peking, it had long been otherwise and the settlement of the
the four Secretaries according to the language of the foreign mss (on.
speaking legations, that is, the British and the American, tin- Dutch
and sometimes the Belgian and the Portuguese. Although the last
Times and the North China Daily News. There was no division of
to see in what ways I could help Mr. Lu and Mr. Tsao Ju-lin, the
9
Vice Minister, to further modernize the ministry and facilitate
1 »ir the MiniHtry. Another matter which interested me was the system
of arranging and filing the archives in which I found much room for
question onto a single roll, one after the other. When each new
had grown to a very unhandy size. The wear and tear of bringing up
and taking back the complete file made the rolls of correspondence
/
look very threadbare. More off^ten than not, the Minister or the Vice
Minister who had to read over a draft and approve it had no occasion
been dealt with. All communications that had been received more than
a month ago should be sent to the bureau of archives for filing and
indexing. The suggestion was heartily approved by the heads of the Minis
appointed to serve as head of the new Bureau. All the old files
were turned over to him and he was given a staff to assist him in this
work.
original diplomatic notes and memoranda from the foreign lee,a* ions
in different files. When I asked the new head of the bureau whv
who insisted that his method was the best one, I took the matter to the
Vice Minister and told him that it was a great pity to cut up the
Vice Minister was even more angry than I was because he at once saw
how foolish it was and how difficult it would be later to locate any
newspapers, and to cut out, file and translate into Chinese articles
made responsible head of this new office and given a fairly large
London Times, and the New York Times and Herald Tribune, would arrive
about three weeks after publication, and the Spanish paper took even
Office on the same day, in the case of those printed in Peking and
Tientsin, while the Shanghai papers would be only two or three days
late.
that our work in the Bureau was mainly concerned. Not only were most
and even then it might not be dependable. All such reports from the
Minister and the Vice Minister and also the President's Office and
time went on^ the number of issues sent out became larger iand larger.
The work took a great deal of the staff’s time because the important
Then I would spend perhaps three quarters of an hour looking over the
phrase or idiom.
tion of the news. I remember at least half a dozen times, when T was
had not yet arrived there. When I said that it had just been sent out
the servant would say that was alright as long as it came before ten,
when the door at the gate of the President's Office would be closed.
A
bulletin was always the first thing the President would ask to
and news reports in the foreign language papers in China and later
the Reuter and Associated Press, because, so far as the Ministry was
President's Office. The incident itself was a pure accident and not
morning, the Vice Minister of the Foreign Office telephoned and asked
Minister. The Japanese Minister, he said, was very worried, because ""
Gai-mu-shu in Tokyo had telegraphed him twice that all the congratula
tory telegrams sent by the Emperor to the chief or heads of the state
of countries with whi^,h Japan had treaty relations had been answered,
but no reply had come from Peking. One could imagine the anxieties
graph office and they did not know the answer. I think the copy
there was no room for laxity of any kind. A telegram must have
been sent, otherwise the Japanese Minister would not have brought
T .?> ,
this copy. Mr. Ch^o gradually saw the point and asked me to prepare
a draft, which I did, and the reply was at once despatched. But
he was still uneasy. How could such an important despatch from one
try to look into the matter and I went direct to the President's
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so surprised and he said how could anyone know this was the emperor's
name but I said that every government should expect to know because
<5
•¥urihito was a chief of state like King George V of England. So
Admiral Tsai was pleased, and yet half sorry for I could see on his
>
his staff who had been educated in the United States. The main thing
however was that the telegram had been found, so without telling
anybody else, I telephoned the Vice Minister,, who told me to come back
.) „r '
Ts<ko >1V - 11 »a
at once with the telegram. The Vice Minister was Oaao--T-s«—Httg-, who
must go.
In those days not only President Yuan but the whole government
was anxious to get on well with Japan and to avoid any kind (if itu i-
dent. When Mr. Chao came back he told me that the President was
ot&vce. I said that would not be fair, and I suggested that the
Vice Minister could soften the blow by persuading the President not to
make too much out of this incident. After all, it was only a question
of protocol: the answer had already been sent, and even though it
was perhaps 36 or 48 hours late I said I was sure that they would
soon receive the reply in Tokyo. By then the whole thing would oe
over.
the man mainly responsible for the error had been penalized by the
the President that from that day on all the foreign despatches
work to cover the news services. Incidentally I soon found out that
in ^'-1-
although'ffhe" Protocol QffiAeg continued to send their translations of
the foreign news bulletins, the President would never look at them and
four counselors had the duty of checking them from the legal point
of view and they had to sign each draft before the Vice Minister and
the Minister would finally approve it. This work was relatively
Translation, and had been preoccupied with the library, indexingy the
archives.
question arose, the Minister, Vice Minister and the head of the
cussion and final adoption. The result of this practice was that
although my office was considered to be a generally quiet ottice, 1
found myself occupied all the time. From a staff of two copyists it
was expanded to include one secretary for me and four copyists, and
of mine who was much older and had been in the Chinese officialdom at
He said nobody else would ever tell me but as a good friend of mine,
the more likely you are to make mistakes. The less you try to do, thr
fewer mistakes you will have; if you do nothing, you can never make
eight years in the U.S., I felt I had studied with a view to making
his advice.
feeling of jealousy was very keen; they always thought that I was
situation to the Vice Minister and ask him what I could do about it.
He would then send to the Division for the file and send it on to me;
thus the Division would not know that I had it, and in any case could
not have ignored the request of the Vice Minister. I was on very
close terms with the Minister and the Vice Minister. My advantage was
that when the Political Division disagreed with me and said my way was
not the proper way to handle the matter, the Minister, and the Vice
they couldn't do it, I always was able to make the necessary draft.
But I always saw to it that my draft was not sent directly to the
Vice Minister; I would go over to the Political Division and ask the
the beginning, people in the Foreign Office had the idea that, being
were very old and had been in the service for twenty-five or thlrtv
years before I joined them. But I never tried to make myself shine or
blow my own horn. My purpose was to get things done in the best way
had for decades been dealing with men and affairs. As Viceroy of
Council his nuin function apart from his military career had been to
had never been abroad and could not speak or read one word of a
Office. The President would hand over the most important telegrams
and notes in consultation with the Foreign Minister, who used to call
once recorded and translated into Chinese and submitted to the Presi
dent for his approval. The President would telephone me that on the
following day at such and such an hour, so and so would call, and
would I be present? Often the visitor would be one of his old friends
from the British fission, or Dr. Paul S. Reinsch the American Minister.
Foreign Office on which the President was kept fully informed. But
the interviews between the President and some of the foreign ministers
who knew him well covered all sorts of diplomatic matters and were ot
Goodnow, who was invited to visit China for advice on the kind of
place and I was present. It was generally taken for granted that
-i /f . ^
Professor Goodmtw18 iirst vifiit was during a tour. On his
(*wn init iat iv<> he called on the President and made his acquaintance.
peace, order and security in the country. His views were very much
the second visit they went at length into the subject and he was
is
asked to submit a memorandum or two on the subject. In th£ interview,
idea of Yuan Shih-k ai and at the back of his -heerh, the only form
the Saturday Evening Post in 1914 after the outbreak of the First
in the U.S. and was very highly recommended to the President. He had,
in fact, cabled his request for an inter.lew, and had said he w 1 I rv
in regard to the war in Europe and on the way in which China would be
great deal of thought and consideration and the President was not vet
and give the journalist a written statement which would give him more
time. But the journalist said he had to leave the next morning /it
The interview took place at five o’clock and did not f ish
seen this man off. I went back to the President's Office and he said
I asked him to give me some general points and ideas, which he did;
knew that the thing had to be done before this man left at twenty minutes
after ten the next day on the morning train for Tientsin. When I.
went back I did not go to the dinner party I was invited to but
telephoned to two of my Chinese assistants at the Foreign Office.
it into Chinese and then I went over and corrected it. In. the morning
when the whole thing was finished, I went over to the President's Office
the President was always an early riser. I showed him the Chinese
not suggest any because there would be no time. When He had looked
the Chinese version was a little over a thousand words - and he said
transferred to the Foreign Office, I not only had this new work
see him at least three times a week to see what work he wanted
Office very strenuous. Every now and then, some English corres
China: with Britain over Tibet; with Russia over Outer Mongolia;
outbreak of the First World War, over Shantung Province. The un
the frontiers. Those countries which had common boundaries with China
situation for which not only the Tibetans themselves but the Bri
boundaries between Tibet and India and the status of Tibet in the
Mr. T’ang Shao-i on the Chinese side and Lord Kitchener on the
off Chinese rule. How much of this Tibetan move was inspired and
aided by the British in India was not known, but what happened
arms and military strength to force the Resident and his guards to
Tibetan question.
and the Tibetan question was one of the questions that formed the
always brought his own interpreter --first, Sir Sidney Barton and,
put Sir Jordan’s English words into Chinese for the President and
the latter’s Chinese words into English, with Sir John's personal
myself would review briefly the essential parts. This was a great
the record, it was sent to the President for approval and a copy
was not able to receive Sir John Jordan, he would send me to call
negotiations.
conversant not only with the geography but with the history,
know him and I found it not only most helpful but necessary at times
to consult him and seek his advice. The main point of dispute was
about the boundary to be drawn, first between Tibet and Szechwan
Province and later between so-called Inner and Outer Tibet; his
was alone on the Chinese side but the British Minister was represen
ted by his Chinese secretary on one hand and his military attach*'
on the other. The latter had travelled on horseback over Tibet and
knew the country well. Although he did not take part in the nego
that he, himself, not having acquired an academic degree like that
remark on his part, but I knew perfectly well that his life-long
was over the question of fixing a boundary between Inner and Outer
was this factor which made both sides adhere to their respective
was Mr. Ch’en Yi, a student of Tibet who was quite familiar with
Peking and the text was promptly submitted to the President for his
were completely satisfied with the drafted terms and the President
especially wanted to make certain changes. But before the new
the President and the Foreign Office, that the agreement had been
But by that time the Tibetan question had become a matter of public
least for the time being. That was the situation in 1916 when
my new post.
The other question was that of Outer Mongolia which was one
Russians knew it, but the Chinese revolution was too good an
witli the new Chinese Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Liang Ju-hao,
who had taken up the post of Foreign Minister only a few days before
told the Foreign Minister that unless China accepted these proposals
China's acceptance.
Immediately after the Russian minister left, Mr. Liang sent for me
and showed me the text of the proposed demands. Mr. Liang was
for Russia to make such demands on China. I told him that this was
ray calm attitude, and showed surprise, not annoyance; he burst out,
declaring that he himself was certainly not going to deal with it.
He would simply send in his resignation and let some other foreign
minister undertake the task. I tried to calm him and said it was a
difficult time in the Foreign Office to conduct China's foreign
relations because the country was weak. The only way was to stand
important ground. His reply was that while I had been trained and
he felt that his own duty to the President and to the country was
to resign immediately from the post. This he did, and duly called
has sent me a short letter quoting from the letters which he t»dd
received from his father at that time. These extracts explain more
"I assume that you must have known now I am very busy
Their aims and desires are not far to seek. The Japanese
why he accepted the offer of the Foreign Office and whv v!*« resigned
cial service many years before and was called out rd retirenent *
join the Cabinet. Though he had for a short period served as Customs
administration. In other words, he was not one <d th< s»» win* had
his son show how useful and important it is to keep such private
for the period between 1912 and the end of the Paris Peace Con
by the next foreign minister, Mr. Sun Pao-ch'i, who was a relative
peiaira-nt. H«* was one of the early returned students having studied
in f la* United States in the late 70's of the 19th Century; after
not have to employ much initiative, but had only to seek instructions
foreign representatives.
and his guards from Tibet with the aid and support of the British
in India.
llu .I.’nxinttBf (k cupat Ion ot Isingtao and the TwentN-One Demands, 1914-1915
Wb«*n tiu* l irnt World War broke out and the German army invaded
neutral Belgium, the news was received in Peking with great appre
hension. I ( was not that there was any fear of war spreading to
t tie Far East immediately, but it was generally believed that Japan
hardly a month after the outbreak of the war in Europe, the Japanese
Berlin, the Japanese military authorities had already made the nece
toward the sea in case of a naval assault, but the Japanese took the
The Japanese government did not notify the Chinese government through
its legation in Peking until the landings of the Japanese armed forces
Foreign Office and was one of the three asked to be present at (In
ford, and a member of Lincoln's Inn. The third man was also
The president called the meeting to order and said that he had
the meeting was what China should do about the Japanese invasion of
the war that was raging in Europe and under international law it
her duty as a neutral. So the case was a clear one for resistance to
educated in England. Dr. Wu, who was a son of the well-known former
and he, too, thought that in order to claim and enjoy the rights of
asked Mr. Chin Peng-ping to express his views. The latter said
that the situation created by the Japanese was an abnormal one and
the order, the armed forces could put up resistance in! tt f > 1 • -
supplies of arms and ammunition. The President then asked iln point
President Yuan then asked him what would he d<> after '♦H hours’
The Minister looked at the President and said he would then wait
effect that he did not have any definite view. He looked around for
some expression of views from the other ministers but there was
law; but how could China do her part as a neutral if she were not
fully prepared for action? In his opinion, international l^w had been
China make an international law of her own? The President had pre
pared a slip of paper, and he was speaking from it. He recalled that
when the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-5 had been fought over Chinese
only way was to delineate the "fighting zone", in this case the
<<>ri id nr through which t i»- Japanese winjld have t march In their
the South leading to Tsingtao and this line from Lunchcrw to Weihsien
on the West. China would not interfere with the Japanese passage
through that area but outside of that area China would continue to
what should be done, it was generally accepted that what had been
proposed was perhaps the only practical policy that China could
adopt under the circumstances. The three counselors got together and
at Tsingtao was only symbolic and lasted only two days. Capitulation
followed and the Japanese forces soon entered and took over the
the Chinese Government. There was, however, no tactful wav t< prevent
rights and privileges in China: it was felt that Japan had found an
mainland and that she would certainly not fall to take advantage
it.
the Japanese Minister, newly arrived from Tokyo, asked for a special
out, Japan would not fail to take action against China. These de
President Yuan was an experienced statesman and was aware not only
President and Mr. Chen^hsiang was once more appointed the Foreign
and should be held once a day in order to expedite the work and conclude
Yuan, on the other hand, was most anxious to prolong the negotia
the Foreign Office and the Japanese delegation. China proposed that
tions would be very difficult and the outcome would depend great Iv
upon how much support China could get from the English speaking
member who was in more or less close contact with the English-
obliged China to drop her proposal and accept the Japanese counter
Chinese group. My own exclusion did not mean that I was kept unin
formed of the nature and progress of the negotiations from one meeting
Japanese minister and his colleagues the Foreign Minister always called
The first few meetings were protracted and made little progress
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beyond a few questions of procedure. Mr. Lu, in fact, had been
hold one meeting a day, five days a week; Mr. Lu proposed one meeting
Mr. Lu's next task was to shorten the duration of each meeting.
It was decided that the meeting should take place three times a week,
from four to six o'clock. Mr. Lu introduced the pleasant and ingenious
a promise to keep the demands secret from all other foreign countries,
world, the only country which could give China support - that is to
say, diplomatic and moral support, was the United States. In my view,
felt confident that Great Britain would do discreetly what she could
to see that China was not made to pay to Japan a price so heavy as to
she could from the Anglo-Saxon countries, for the other countries with
was going on in Asia. France, herself, was fully occupied with the
daily struggle with Germany; Russia, too, was already a victim of the
the Demands began to appear in the foreign press and arouse/ interest
a4=&o to keep the British and American legations informe^with the full
see the American minister, Dr. Paul Reinsch and the British minister,
of the demands and especially about the fifth group. Apparently the
fully informed of the nature of the demands and the progress of the
London. With the black cat out of the bag, the Japanese Foreign
Minister, at least, must have shared the feeling that it was then
at all, then of the fifth group. As the secret became more and more
widely known, the Japanese negotiators began to press harder and harder
after another until all the four groups had been disposed of.
By this time China had won the evident support of the foreign
doubtedly the American Government made its views known to the Japanese
Ambassador in the Capital, and through its own ambassador, to the
cause was being felt by the Japanese Foreign £££4ee. China then
the first four groups had beien disposed of. The Japanese kept pressing
China for discussing the fifth group, but President Yuan stood firm
and he refused, giving all kinds of reasons for delaying the nego
tiations. The support from Washington was evident for not submitting -
all the nature and policies were determined in the Council of elder
and her most venerable statesman was Prince Saonji. It was President
Yuan’s hope to find out from the elder statesman’s personal view as
to how far Japan would go to insist upon acceptance of the fifth group
by China. Evidently it took a long time for the Japanese to have the
opportunity of achieving his mission and for nearly three weeks the
negotiations were suspended, for- Japan., for the Japanese ^inister^ ['i- ' /
was pressing for China for the negotiation to come to a rapid termina
minister there and from the Japanese adviser, that if China accepted
the first four groups as they were negotiated, China could refuse to
discuss the fifth group; but the treaty to wind up the negotiations
the policy of protraction - even with a strong hint from the Japanese
minister that an ultimatum would be sent if China did not accept the
from the Japanese Government blaming China for the delay and calling
upon her to conclude the treaty within forty-eight hours. In the note
to the effect that unless China agreed to sign the treaty within
Chinese side and did not create such a stir as might have been
imagined.
question for China was not so much whether to accept the ultimatum as
how to draft a reply of acceptance of the terms. This task fell upon
me. The Foreign Minister came to see me in the German hospital where
I had been laid up for two days with high fever, as a result, according
consulted me over the contents of the ultimatum and the nature of the
had directed him to accept and submit a draft reply. This idea
did not take long because he did not call for a lengthy reply; the
important point was how to deal with the fifth group in writing as the
first four groups had been negotiated at length and the results
more or less had been agreed upon. My draft was a very brief one
and as regards to the fifth group, I made it clear that China could
not accept. This was approved by the Foreign Minister who took it to
the President and he, too, approved it. But while the note was being
who,as it was a practice, at the time was in close touch with the
Japanese minister and his staff, suggested that Th be wise to show the
Mr. Shih came back, he brought the reaction of the Japanese minister
to the effect that the language was too categorical and suggested that
say that the Fifth Group would be left for future consideration. I
the Chinese public and the friendly nations abroad. It might also
furnish a pretext for Japan to raise the question again in the future,
for Mr. Shih said that the Japanese minister had made him understand
that by modifying this phrase, it would make the reply more acceptable
the matter should be considered closed and the less said about it the
better. But I explained that it was unusual in peace time for a country
for future historians, making clear why China undertook the negotiations,
how they were conducted, and what China’s reasons were for rejecting the
President who in turn approved it. Before approving it, both the
asked how the statement was to be drawn up. The heads of the
department were responsible but the Foreign Office thought it would be
following.
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Ify was to serve any purpose^, I said, it must be published
undertake the task; I would do it. The Foreign Minister was delighted
of the clinic,that I should have the use of an extra room for two
arrange for the removal of one patient to a room farther away so that
London Times. I told him that X would dictate to him and he would write
typing. We started about half past nine and finished at three o'clock
Ministry, which was quickly accomplished. The whole text was submitted
to the President by the Minister and Vice Minister and as soon as it was
The treaty of May 25, 1915 following the Twenty One Demands
time. The treaty was signed, but certainly as far as China was concerned
ways rather unique. In the first place, it was of course the site of
the government of the Republic of China with the President and the
administering the country and making laws and decrees for all the
Forbidden City, the calendar was still the imperial calendar. While
according to the official calendar for the whole country 1912 was the
first year of the Republic, inside the Forbidden City, the same year
one could read this date on the gates of the imperial city where it
was posted for the information of the entourage and the officials
of the palace and asked him to bring the point to the abdicated
imperial calendar in any place where the general public could read
it. His agreement was given in due course, so that one could say
This did not provoke much attention or criticism on the part of the
the high officials in the Government who had served previously under
the emperor would also make visits to the palace and offer
Personally I did not make any visit because I had never served under
the dynasty - my public service having begun with the first year of
the Republic; but there were among the returned students some who
awarded by Hsuan-t'ung
did. Dr. W. W. Yen, for example, had the happiness character/hung
educated returned students. This was done more than once after the
literary degrees upon the candidates. In the old days, the chtl-jen,
chin-shih, and han-lin degrees were coveted by the whole body of scholars
in the country and in some popular provinces such as Kiangsu and Hupei,
Chinese, had no Chinese education and had not even learnt to speak
or write Chinese, were given degrees. One of these men was Samuel
Mr. Li Tung-hui, Dr. Fang, and Mr. Alfred Sze, as well as Mr. Samuel
students had received special recognition from the throne that they
special occasions such as his birthday or the New Year. The practice
strange.
quarter was placed under the control of the diplomatic body. Most of
the legations were situated inside the quarter, which had walls
inside the quarter was entirely in the hands of the diplomatic body.
There were even special police and the Chinese po' .ce of Peking could
not enter without permission. Most of the legations also had the
the country which the legation represented. Japan had the largest
force in Peking, while the U.S., Great Britain, and France all had most
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of their garrison forces along the railroads in Peking and Shan-hai-
imperial palace (the Forbidden City) the Legation Quarter and the
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capital of the Republic. In other words, there was not only an im-
some respects, the old-time Peking remained. For example, the means
for the upper classes, particularly of the Manchu clan. There were
tives, and there was the ricksha for the average citizen. There was no
generally, all the dinners and luncheons given at the Foreign Office
were in a foreign style with foreign food and wine. That was more due
had served abroad, the latter as Minister to Japan and the former
from the diplomatic corps, but when parties were given there for a
I believe it was the annual dinner to the Tibetan and Mongolian Princes,
and the food was Chinese with some dishes of the Mongolian kind added
the back of the hall right in the center with himself alone. Then,
to his right and left, there were about eight or ten tables on each
side. Each table had six persons and six dishes. I found them
not only unattractive but hardly eatable, and refrained from touching
any of them. The host at the table urged that I should eat something
on the far side which had no seats. I stretched out my hand and
put there for looks, not to be eaten. It was a wooden duck, painted)
Then I realized what, lengths were resorted to in cutting down the cost
for such parties. Although my work was mainly with the English-
parties. Some of them very amiable, others formal, but the foreign
Corps from the days of the end of the Dynasty and was a very impressive
Peking. He had a great sympathy for the Chinese people and the
Chinese cause and was most popular with Chinese not only in the
Canadian, for example, Mr. Harry Huntley, who designed and built
American wife. They entertained very generously and made many Chinese
Corps, in order to get some idea of their reaction at any given time
was the cocktail party, first initiated by the United States minister
six to eight, just after office hours and before dinner time; the
guests could come and go as they pleased without being bound down.
parties, you would form a line and often there would be a long, long
queue of guests trying to reach the hosts to say "How do you do."
you would wait until a certain hour when the buffet was open. But
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at cocktail parties it was much simpler. 2§~~fco 30 guests were
considered a good number, and they would shake hands with the host
much more formal. To cocktail parties you could go direct from the
office in your day dress, whereas in the evening you would have to
the reception given to the diplomatic corps after the U.S. recognized
reception committee assigned to look after the guests and see that
approached him and said to him gently that he had forgotten to put
to the Diplomatic Corps to which all the ministers and heads of the
wife of the head of the Bureau of Mongolian and Tibetan Affairs greatly
surprised not only myself but many members of the Diplomatic Corps.
She had on a half Mongolian and half Chinese loose dress of gorgeous
color, which was all right; she was short and stubby. But tipped
right over her eyes she wore a Western hat, decorated with fruits
ani flowers which I thought was very good but more suitable for
an Easter Parade. She felt perfectly at ease for nobody there men™
after he took up the new post, he had to pay a courtesy call on the
was conducted into the reception room and soon the Governor came down,
wearing his big, black gown and a Chinese robe and coat. Mr. Hsu
was a young man, just spic and span in a frock coat, striped trousers
and a top hat. The governor scrutinized him very closely and started
the Governor Shen Ching-chien was dressed in the western style but
had some kind of a white dress trailing behind underneath his morning
wearing outside his trousers. I did not know him well enough to
foreign affairs Mr. Tsao Ju-lin who was a very intimate friend of
his. Mr. Tsao said that he would speak to him but would like me to
be present too; so the two of us went up to Governor Shen and Mr. Tsao
told him that he was not properly dressed. The Governor was at first
fault of his valet. He had had a very trying morning, he said. Since
scolded him. Shen said he had tried very hard to put the shirt inside
even though it felt uncomfortable. But the valet had told him it
was not quite the proper way; the shirt, according to him, was like
to the ankle beneath the ceremonial official robe of dark blue which
was always three or four inches shorter. He scolded the valet rather
severely and said it was all due to his fault that he had appeared
arrived and were chuckling at the garment of Mr. Shen Ching-chien, which
made it all the more urgent for me to spirit him away for the necessary
foreign dress; but at private dinner parties, I had some very trying
Time and again I would find myself nearly freezing to death when I
found the house kept entirely in the old style with no means of heating:
I and the other guests would perhaps be received in a great main hall
with the windows opened wide. While I was trembling with cold I would
see how the other guests and the host enjoyed the fresh air, being
comfort.
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There was also the question of how prompt) a dinner party would
start; in some houses the old custom prevailed while others followed
the new custom. At times I would arrive promptly to find that not
even the host was present and might wait for three quarters of an
hour before he would Lappear while the other guests would take even
guests were expected and the dinner was to be served in the foreign
way then the time indicated on the invitation card was reliable. If it
was a purely Chinese party, the time would be given as one of the
be very early for dinner then I would take care to have my servant
inquire what time one was expected to arrive. I remember that once I
thought I had mistaken the date, but the restaurant keeper said, No,
no, Mr. So and so was givjeti a dinner but he had not arrived yet. I
to offer his apologies; he was not only sorry for having been late
but he was most grateful that I had taken some refreshment. Because
the Chinese custom is that if, in the absence of the host, you leave
In other respects, changes from the old to the new were apparent.
places one would still bow ( ) > while in others it was the
custom to shake hands. When all the famous stars of the Chinese
After his return from a tour abroad we met again, and from that time
on, we always shook hands. This change marked not only the simplifica
spirit; until the Republic, there had been nine classes of people
who were considered inferior in social standing and whose children were
not allowed to take part in the examinations; and among those classes
had been numbered the actors and actresses. Anather and very
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significant illustration of change was the emergence of women in
extraordinary sight for the people in general. Net all of them were
two was called "T’ang". Both of these two were eloquent public
unusual but also amusing. Each time one of them spoke, in some parts
of the speech, she would burst out into tears, evidently with the
sole purpose of impressing the people. They were good speakers, but
appeared to be somewhat^histrionic.
the law courts, cases became more and more frequent of disputes and
property left by their parents. Under the dynasty when the old
laws prevailed from time immemorial, married daughters were not entitled
mother or father. The property was divided among the sons and with
a minor share for the unmarried daughter. But with the introduction
how long she had been married, was entitled to her share of the
inheritance. There were still cases in which the property was divided
and settled in accordance with the will of the father or the mother;
but when disputes were brought before the court, those wills which
were not in conformity with the new law were declared illegal and the
heirs who had benefitted by the former division had to make up the
share which was due to the married daughters under the new law.
style as was customary under the dynasty. The only change in the
Prime Minister, but their manner of expression followed the old tTimfe
the curtsying and kowtowing were dying out. But in many an official
family, the old time practice still was observed, and on a birthday
party or on a New Year's Day, members of the family and the retinue
of the country was eager to take on western customs and adopt western
dresses. But the older people continued to wear the old fashioned
was a member, some of the customs still remained; for example, the
at the gate who would yell out the announcement from the entrance right
to the various departments. This happened not once but many times in
a day: the Minister would go out and make a visit and come back and
ring, which was much less disturbing although also much less picturesque.
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Hsia Chia-fu Mr. Hsia had served for rayay years as jCbnsul in
pu circle that President Yuan Shih-k’ai was not at all keen about
the recommendation. But Mr. Sun Pao-ch'i was one of the loyal and
the First World War has broken out and the position of the United States,
first of all the United States and the American people were always
opposed to war and did not want to be in any way involved; and in the
such a task.
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Peking knew nothing of this until the American Minister to China
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called to inquire what was President Yuan's precise desire to mediate
in the war. This news was like a thunderbolt out of a blue sky and
the President burst into a rage, being fully aware of China's position
in the international sphere and the utter impropriety of any such move
on his part. He was so furious that he told Sun Pao-ch'i, the Foreign
Minister, to dismiss Mr. Hsia at once. Mr. Sun pleaded with the
President, for it was Mr. Sun himself who a short time before had
strongly recommended Mr. Hsia for the post. He felt it was a blow to
foreign portfolio in order to follow up the problem that had been posed
President, he sent for me and told me that both he and the President
development for me and I told him that I realized the delicacy of the
was also a right hand man of Minister Lu, namely Mr. Hsia"yh-ting, I
that he and the President had in me, I said it would not be a practical
agree with me, accept my ideas and act accordingly, there would be no
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Mr. Lu replied that Minister Hsia would be there only for a short
situation and our relations with the United States in Washington. They
thought was reasonable but I told him from the practical point of
case the new minister would require some time to prepare for his
mission and departure, so that Mr. Hsia did not have to leave the
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Washington post right away. But Minister Lu said that President Yuan
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Shih-k’ai had made up his mind that I was the only one he would
like to see help the government to play its part in Washington and
attitude to the war and its duration. It was finally settled that I
possibly they wanted me to sound out Dr. Sze and the British
dure by asking for the agr^ment, which was transmitted by the Mexican
made, that it had been pre-arranged; it was only natural that when Minister
pu itself did not know anything, except for Mr. Hsia Yu-t'ing. Of
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course, a delicate matter of that sort was usually kept secret.
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those days, travel by boat was the only means and it took me three
those days the American line was practically the only line left: all the
on the boat which took ten days crossing the Atlantic. I think it
But I had no choice and sailed after a short stay in New York. Only
submarines. The United States was then a neutral but in the disfavor
large measure upon the United States for war supplies. My crossing
was uneventful with the exception of false alarms and I arrived safely
in London.
The Minister to London, Dr. Sze, and myself were old friends;
what was actually going on but he, himself, did not indicate whether
indicated his great doubt that the monarchical movement could materialize
in view of the certain and growing opposition not only from the
Britain then was fully in its life and death struggle and the whole
atmosphere was tense with the war effort. I was most anxious to
ascertain whether there was a general feeling that the war would last
for many years. But there was no anxiety, quite noticeably, and the
general view was that victory would be quick if the United States could
be brought in on the side of the Allied Powers. Dr. Sze and I were
point not to send in any report to Peking except through Dr. Sze
and usually asked him as the Chinese Minister in London to report our
conclusions.
put before the Cabinet. After the Cabinet's approval and the
October that I was informed that the necessary procedures had been
completed, and was asked to prepare for departure for Washington. But
November that I was able to sail for New York. Minister Hsia was
comfort to me. We had first met and seen a good deal of each other in
New York, when he was the Chinese consul and I a student at Columbia;
club meetings in the Consulate. Mr. Hsia and Mrs. Hsia had been hos
except to ask Minister Hsia for his advice as to the affairs of the
able to pay any visit immediately because I had not yet received my
were being prepared in Peking. Such official documents are not at all
great deal of time. Every wire from Peking said that at first they
were about to be despatched and later that they had already been
Mrs. Galt was being prepared. As the heads of all the diplomatic
have the Chinese minister present and I was informed thatan invitation
signed first by Minister Hsia, and afterwards by Mr. Yung Kuei the
was very considerate and said they felt that President Wilson would like
to see the new Chinese minister at the ceremony. As regards the question
the Legation would arrange for the contents of the letters of credentials
formal one, which could be submitted later. With this clever arrangement,
which really was a copy of the cabled text, and on the same evening
The State. He had asked me many questions about hina and the
incipient imperial rule was proclaimed on March 22, the attempt to save
the situation on the part of the monarchists was futile; and the sudden
Shih-kai, who was then laid up with serious illness. When he died, Vice-
Republic of China. A new cabinet was formed and its minister of finance
was Dr. Ch'en Chin-tao, a Ph.D. from Yale University and a well-known
was most anxious to secure financial assistance from abroad in the form
United States. I was urgently called upon by Dr. Ch'en to seek and obtain
Bank which had branches in Boston and Chicago. Mr. Allen, who was
head of its New York office was not only favorable to the idea, but was
most sympathetic with the Chinese cause - although he himself had never
and unusual experience for myself. I was talking with Mr. Allen face to
face across his desk. But I heard voices from the telephone receiver
perfectly all right: while he was discussing with me, his partners in
that I was negotiating not with him alone but also with the two others
with the progress of American business and with the extent to which
As I recall, the discussions and the negotiations were not too diffi
cult except over one question — the question of security for the loan.
Mr. Allen was familiar with the character and returns for the previous
loan which China had concluded with foreign banks and he said that some
thing more than the guarantee of the government to repay the loan was
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necessary. Hewanted to have the wine and tobacco revenue not only ear
bank. This was the principal point of dispute and debate. But
I told himthat China had come to the American market not just to secure
away from the traditional practice of making with the loans some kind of
hesitated to insist on such terms, but they were not legitimate terms
for a purely business loan. I reminded him that it was for these reasons
to China in the first year of the Chinese Republic on the ground that
the loan out of its general revenue and especially the revenue from the
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Wine and Tobacco Office. As to certain other terms, such as the discount
recalled to him that it was too much to charge such a commission and
received less than ninety dollars. There was also a provision in the
Reorganization Loan agreement that the customs revenue, upon which the
various lending countries, and the. uses to which the proceeds of the
loans it was also usual that the material, supplies and equipment which
the agents of the lending banks. All these unusual provisions were
dropped and I was glad to be able to conclude a loan agreement which would
Chinese Government.
succeeded in doing so; but while the news of the conclusion of the loan
was welcomed by the government, the loan was strongly opposed by the
father-in-law Mr. T*ang Shao-i, who was one of the principal leaders of
should be the one to have concluded such a loan for the government in
Peking. He said that his and my political friends in China had openly
Peking and it was thought to have been made for the purpose of supplying
the armed forces under control of the Chinese Government in the capital
for the purpose of fighting the opposing party in the country.* This was,
proceeds, I had concluded the loan for the purpose of assisting the new
government, which was the first after the restoration of the Republic.
it. This incident showed to what extent the political struggle and the
civil strife was pushed, for the loan aroused the open opposition of the
impression and for the time being further efforts on my part were well-
nigh impossible.
with his armed forces in the summer of 1917. Fortunately, this daring
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adventure was soon put an end to be General Tuan ChH-jui, who, although
General Chang Hsun and driving him from Peking. The so-called restored
imperial regime lasted for only two weeks, and the Republic was
restored for the second time under the aegis of Marshal Tuan ChH-jui.
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Meanwhile the war was raging in Europe^did not yet involve the
the mighty German army, were inadequately prepared to meet this challenge
and found it is necessary to rely upon the United States for much indirect
negotiate war loans, to arrange war financing, and to place orders for
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war supplies of different kinds tc American manufacturers. Not un
naturally all these matters were pushed to conclusion with the approval
of the United States Government. The sudden demand upon the American
industry produced what might be called a boom in the U.S. The steel
industry, for example, was suddenly burdened with a rush of big orders
for its products. Curious to say the American people welcomed this
influx of orders not only from the business point of view but also out
for the Administration was really thinking about the possible development
of the war. It was known then that the policy of Berlin and Vienna
was to keep the U.S. out of the war while the allied nations not
unnaturally hoped to see the U.S. play a direct role in the strife.
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Ontthe international scene, 1917 was an eventful year, for the United
States and the allied cause and for China too. Besides the Lansing-
Ishii agreement which was concluded in the latter part of the year,
the events which led the United States first to break off relations with
Germany, then to declare war and join the allied cause were highly
The German high command, seeing the amount of aid to the allied
cause from the United States in the form of munitions and other supplies
on the high seas and often ruthlessly attacked. Many such ships were
heavily sacrificed. Action on the part of the German high command brought
forth repeated protests from Washington on the grounds that they were
although there were times when the protests became particularly strong
so that she stopped it for a time, she would shortly resume it once
again.
The straw that broke the camel*s back in the relations between the
the United States and brought forth a most vigorous note of protest.
in the war and to give positive assurance that Germany would refrain
some weeks earlier to report his protest to Germany and his decision to
sympathy for the Allied cause but were aroused and indignant at the
from time to time in order to check with them on the real war situation
Mr. Lcnsing, the Secretary of State. As I found him very much occupied
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the visits of the Allied ambassadors were very frequent and naturally
who was in a position to spend more time with me. Mr. Breckinridge l^ong,
supporter of President Wilson from the start of his political career and
free access to the White House. He and I would have long talks, not only
as to the relations between China and the United States, but as regards
war in general in Europe and what the United States attitude was.
nificance. It was welcome in London and Paris and other Allied capitals,
should be pushed into the war against Germany. This was generally
situation in the United States and of the temper of the American govern
out, it was not accepted by Berlin, for the German high command also had
known then, presented a strong view that the United States was most
unlikely to enter the war, first becauseof the natural hatred of war on
for any intervention in any European affairs, and third because of the
United States was not prepared to enter the struggle in Europe. They
reached the conclusion that even if the United States should enter the
war it would take a long time before it could mobilize its economic,
industrial and military forces to produce any effect on the war in Europe.
Bernstoff^ reports to the German Foreign Office did not carry as much
weight as those sent to the German high command, although he fully warned
protests seriously.
The United States entry into the war, of course, was heartily
from my talks with the British and French Ambassadors. Sir Cecil
hour or more to exchange our views of what we each thought would likely
develop xvith American policy and also about the feelings of our respective
could gather from his remarks that the situation in Europe was serious;
what the people and the government in the Allied countries placed their
greatest hope on for victory in the war was to have the United States
participate in it. The news of American entry into the war was most _
Great Britain became the first country to send a war mission to Washington.
mark of gratitude and appreciation to the United States; but it did not
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take long for the general public and the diplomatic corps to know that
its real purpose was concerned with the United States as to how the two
should cooperate and in what respects the United States could render its
war by the United States. I think it was at the beginning of June when
The evening of the day when the British mission arrived, there was
Just as I had finished dressing and was about to start for the
fall, had been laid up for several weeks, there had been no indication
from Shanghai. The sudden news was most upsetting and for a time I
the Chinese minister from the capital of a country which was very
might lend credence to the idea that in anything concerning China, Japan
was the country to be consulted and that Japan had the right to
speak for East Asia as a whole. I did not want to allow even temporarily
receiving line. After shaking hands with the President and the
celebration.
was not unexpected. I was asked to consider the critical time that
China was passing through and informed that it was most important that the
service was to take place at the end of the fifth week, which would
the situation in the United States and the importance of the relations
between the United States and China were such that I should not absent
was that when my father was seriously ill he had been assured that
X would be sent for to see him; but his answer had been that they
should stop thinking about sending for me. He said that it was more
the relations of the two countries, than to take time to travel just for
the sake of seeing him. He said his mind was completely at ease with
would like to see me, but he thought it was more important for me to
to ask for leave to go back to attend the Memorial Service. I was very
not only did China declare war, but the British War Mission was followed
policy in China.
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During 1917, a very important problem arose for me and for China -
very clearly what was the current opinion in Peking and in China as
a whole. I certainly did not know at the time that this question would
give rise to havoc and confusion and even civil strife in China. I
knew that my own views were favorably received by the Government, headed
it was necessary for China to join the Allied cause, in the final victory
would win was the general opinion after the entry of the United States
Although the idea of the Chinese entry into the war did not occur
real friend of China, the proof of which was her policy and her actions
at the time of the Twenty-one Demands. The State Department and the
officials of the government did not touch either upon the possibility
of China*3 participation in the war until the United States itself had
entered in it. But after its entry, it was not difficult to understand
from m y talks with various high officials and even with some of the
with the United States. Both Mr. Lansing and Mr. Long indicated this
unofficially to me not so much for the sake of the United States, as they
put it, but for the sake of China. Mr. E. T. Williams did too, but
perhaps with less emphasis, being the head of the Far Eastern
between what were known in the Chinese press as the cold war and the
Feng Kuo-chang and his military colleagues. But they were strongly
of the Kuomintang both in the Capital and in the South. From the point
China*s interest in the world, should be opposed, but it was not difficult
and the South represented by President Feng and General Tuan Ch*i-jui
in the North and the regime in Canton with Dr. Sun Yat-sen as the
head of the Southern Parliament. It was clear that the Southern party
opposed the war not so much because it ranged China on the side of the
United States as because they feared that China,s entry into the war
would simply provide an excuse for the North to build up its armed forces
with aid of different kinds from the United States if not from the
into a big stake in the struggle for supremacy between the two opposing
parties.
war. The feeling of antipathy between the ministers and members of the
1915, only a few weeks after the outbreak of the war in Europe, it was
one or the other would at once cross the street and walk on the other
directly participate in the war, but there were many ways in which
China was expected to show her sympathy for the Allied cause. After
the United States entered the war, the Allied ministers increased their
efforts to-seek China*s sympathy and support, and looked upon the
United States entry into the war as an overwhelming reason for China to
enter the war on the Allied side. The one minister, however, who
of the Chinese people in all walks of life and by his undoubted sympathy
certainly did not hesitate to make it clear after the United States
entry into the war that it would be to Chinese interests to range herself
the new minister, was a distinguished admiral and enjoyed the confidence
of the Kaiser and the German high command. Thus his appointment
shortly after the American entry into the war was rather unusual
and had attracted a great deal of attention. As it turned out later, the
general opinion that this appointment was a significant one was well
the war, Asia was active in the backyard of the United States and China
and natural resources. The Germans at first must have considered that the
war would not last very long and that they would secure the final victory
so long as they were able to keep the United States from joining in. Once
the United States had joined the war with its tremendous industrial power,
China's raw materials would be of even greater use, and if the war should
last for a long time, China's manpower might be brought to bear oji the
struggle. Nor was this fanciful thinking on the part of Germany, because
of Chinese laborers had already been enlisted and were working behind
the trenches in order to release the French and British manpower for
in Parliament. For days the debate went on in the legislature between the
two camps. The Chinese pepers reported that it was a common sight to see
the ministers of the Allied powers sitting in the public gallery listening
to the debates, and it was said that Admiral Heinz never failed to be
present at any sitting when the question of China's entry into the war
picture and in community life which were opposed to the war held demon
strations and mass parades to warn the government against taking a decision
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several weeks until General Tuan ChH-jui, who had been a fervent
outset of the United States entry into the war, sought and received
critical moment, also gave a resuml of my talks with the high officials
Powers. X was reassured by General Tuan's reply that my telegram had been
mimeographed and circulated among the members of the Cabinet. How much
influence it had, I do not know. It may have carried some weight with
it would not support China's entry to the war. It was not until August
14, after Parliament had dissolved and moved to the South, that war was
declared in Peking.
It was curious to note then that the Chinese press carried the news,
not only as to the victory on the part of the government against the
Southern anti-war section but that it was also a great success for the
efforts of the Allied ministers and a bitter defeat for Admiral Heinz.
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The German community was really amazed and dismayed and they had reason
of the Allied Ministers the Germans, with very few exceptions, were all
deported. The German institutions were seized; German banks and commer
cial firms were turned over. -B«t J:he Allied ministers had reason to advo
While the struggle was going on between the two Chinese factions, the
to enter the war, and promised that if China participated in the war
they would see to it that China would be recognized as a great nation. It^
Premier Clemenceau and to Mr. Lloyd George when China was allotted only
two seats at the Peace Conference instead of five which was demanded.
At any rate, great efforts were made by the Allied Minis,ers at Peking to
enlist China on the side of the Allied Powers, especially after the
United States entered the war. General Tua^s decision was courageous
conference. China’s entry into the war was much opposed by Japan and
of the Japanese aid in the war. Of course, the assurance they had given
to Japan --«s«ur«TTce'-wi>ieh became known only after the end of the war
and revealed only at the Peace Conference. Even the United States, whose
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entry into the war had been sought and was heartily welcomed, was not kept
informed of the secret agreement which both Great Britain, France, and
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was the dispatch ofChinese War Mission to the United States. I+-
was headed by a Major General and a Rear Admiral, invited by the United
out plans by which the United States could assist China in her war
special war mission. One was that no sooner had the mission arrived
after he had signed the contract and paid the first instalment, the
representative of the firm went and saw him and told him he would send
him a check as part of the commission which otherwise the company would
have paid to the broker. I do not recall how much it was, but it sounded
at the time that it was a considerable sum and he wanted to know whether
he could accept it. My answer to him was unhesitant. I told him it would
not be correct for him, for any official of the Chinese government,
acting on behalf of the government to accept any money, whatever it was for.
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his life having done so. He saw the point at once. Certainly he would
tell the representative of the firm that he would take no part of the
money, and that in making thk contract he had simply been carrying out his
official duty.
Another striking incident was the visit I made with the Mission to
the Bureau, we were conducted into a dark room, with the windows closed.
The official who was conducting us closed the door and pointed to
Japanese were also on the Allied side, the American Government would not
think of allowing them in the room and in the case of the other
European Allies it would have to consider very seriously before doing so.
where wired messages from Berlin were going and had helped to reveal that
United States were sent back from Mexico City. This incident was
none of the members of the Mission nor myself were technicians, but
tained toward China and China1s representatives. This was in 1918. Today,
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more than 40 years later, there are all kinds of devices for instant
hegemony and domination in Asia. The war in Europe occupied all the
very large colonies and other economic and political interests in Asia
but they were unable to look after them while they themselves were ab
sorbed in the struggle to save their home countries from Germany. The
from Asia and the western Pacific especially from China. Japan considered
part was not disposed to sacrifice her relationship with China. For
U.S. itself, while the first contact of the American public with the
cphinese had been at the time of the influx of Chinese laborers for the
and France in the war, the U.S. was the only important country that
mainland, certainly the agreement on the part of the U.S. that all
and U.S. and about American interests in Asia. For a period of years,
and was aware of the policy of Japan on the Asia mainland and the
ciate the significance of the Ishii mission. Every time I went to see
him, I spoke to him about the possible Japanese motive behind this
tainly see to it that the U.S. would not weaken its position or let
But as time went on and the visit of Viscount Ishii was prolonged,
U.S., there were reports that the Japanese envoy had made some
had already been agreed upon by the two countries to refer to Japan*s
geographical fact and was agreed to only after firm objection on the
He assured me that the U.S. had rejected Japan’s first request for
and that Viscount Ishii had only reluctantly accepted the formula based
negotiations that affected China directly. But Mr. Lansing himself did
had then more clear evidence of the precise nature of the agreement
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reached and spared no effort to point out to the Secretary of State the
American interests in the Chinese mainland; it was certain that Japan would
insist upon her own interpretation of the nature and scope of the
Mr. Lansing, I recall, again did his best to reassure me and told
me that there was nothing sinister about the notes. There was no secret
provision, and everything that had been agreed upon was contained in the
notes. Whatever Japan might interpret them to mean, the U.S. had pointed
question to him why this formula was given recognition: if it was harm
less surely it was unnecessary. Mr. Lansing*s explanation was that Ishii
could not have left Washington without making some agreement with the
U.S.; the exchange of notes gave him something to bring back to Japan.
the Washington Conference in 1922 when notice was served on Japan of the
was taken not altogether out of a desire to meet China1s wishes but also
because, ever since the publication of the Notes, the general reaction
on the part of the American people and the American press had not been too
favorable.
was the pressure of the was in Europe. The U.S. Government was fully
in the Far East. X had the impression then that the British Government
was most anxious that an agreement should be reached by the U.S. with
one hand and Japan with the U.S. on the other. She had large interests
,#the occupation of the Kiaochow leased territory had already given a clear
primary consideration was to win the war and for this purpose she had
Pacific if not in Europe itself. Without the agreement between Japan and
the Paris Peace Conference, Great Britain asked for and received a
to the European front and in patrolling the waters of the western Pacific
ment concluded between London and Tokyo in regard to Shantung and other
Japanese interests in China were at that time a dead secret, unknown even
to the U.S. Government, but they clearly indicate to what degree the
British Government was anxious to secure Japanese aid and assistance in the
war.
Washington and from time to time we had talks regarding the situation
in the Far East, the war in Europe and the possible effect upon the
were entirely in line with those of his government which was unaware of
the possible mischiefs Japan could do in Eastern Asia and the western
Pacific but which at the same time was anxious to secure Japan1s help
in the war. His view was based upon the idea that in war time the first
object to seek was to win the war; all other questions could be left to
concerned it was a realistic view of the situation of the Far East and it
reflected the view of his government and his people. But my recollection
was that he was fully aware of the great opportunity offered by the
war to Japan to advance their own interest in Asia, but what could other
countries do except U.S. and the U.S. was not likely to make any serious
French ambassador, and from time to time I would call on him as I would on
especially in the Far East to discuss the world situation and exchange our
views. M. Duser, though a 100 per cent Frenchman, and a great diplomat,
was also a profound scholar, who had made a special study of the English
drama and I understand had written a book on it. And I recall that Al
Toward the latter part of 1917, when the whole nation of the United
States was being geared up for its active participation in the war in
year. Though Imperial Russia had been an ally on the side of the
Western European powers, the regime itself at St. Petersburg had always
been looked upon with distaste because it was an autocracy with little
was welcomed in the United States as a change for the better for the Russian
people. When Kerensky, the new Russian premier and head of the Mensheviks
sent a mission to the United States with a view to seeking aid, it was
policies of the new regime was to terminate the war and make peace with
Germany and Austria. In spite of the efforts made by London, Paris and
from abandoning the war, the Bolsheviks went ahead and began negotiations
without inuch loss of time. Finally the so-called treaty of peace was
cause of peace. Moreover the departure of Russia from the camp of the
Allies in this first world struggle made the outlook of the war itself
France and the United States to win the war remained unshaken. President
Wilson, of course, fully realized the inherent love of peace on the part
of the American people, among whom a few such as Mr, Adams and Henry
Ford were advocating peace at almost any price, and the White House
spared no effort to prepare for the peace which must come in the end.
Wilson had an ear to the ground for the popular mood. Accordingly, in
one of his speeches on the war situation he made it clear that the
United States had joined the war on the Allied side in order to build a
new world for the future, so that the children and their children for
generations in the future would not again have to take sides and fight.
As he put it, for the United States the war was a war to end all wars.
This belief was evidently ardently held by the President, and since
the cause was fully shared and advocated by Colonel House, one of his
More than once he was sent to the British and French capitals to sound out
the views of the Allied governments and to draft the peace terms which
would wind up the great struggle and establish a new order for the world.
but also among certain circles in England, France and even beyond;
they were headed by men like Lord Robert Cecil, Lord Raker and Lord
Samuel. In France there was Leon Bourgeois, the great lover of world
the various drafted plans which were published from time to time
in the United States, England and elsewhere, to study and analyze them
with the desire of finding out what should be tie policy of China and
ever since the opening of intercourse with Western European powers in the
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middle of the nineteenth century, China had not had a square deal in her
relations with them. She had been subjected from that time on to a
and various other special privileges and rights exacted from her. I
thought it was time that China should air her grievances internationally
at the coming peace conference in order to win back some of her lost
latter part of the 19th Century from Japan as well. The most recent
the treaty which was forced upon China by Japan as a result of Japan*s
of the committee were Mr. Y. C. Yung, Dr. W. Wu, who later became
view with Colonel House. He was a most careful man and one of few words.
But he and I were able to talk rather freely probably because he knew
regarding the views of London and of Paris on his pet subject. E\ery
was a fact generally known and at times I tried to sound him out on the
was most useful since It gave me some indication not only of Colonel House
own views but also those of the President on the question of the future
It was curious to note that while the preparation for peace was
going on, quietly but steadily, the United States in the Spring of 1918
sent its first expeditionary force to Europe. That marked the begin
European front on the side of the Allies was a great boost for the
rise to a hope and confidence that the World War in Europe would be
definitely won in the end by the Allied and Associate powers. This hope
same time I proposed that they should start preparations for the
Peace Conference vh ich was sure to take place after the war ended. From
the summer of 1918, I sent report after report of the studies which the
them at the earliest possible time. The Allied victory at the Battle
Europe made me. feel that the end of the war was not far off: clearly China
should not delay preparing for the peace. I looked upon the coming
fair treatment and readjus tment of the grievous consequences from which
China been suffering for more than half a century. The government
was then headed by General Tuanaand his Cabinet was composed of a number
most notable man in the Cabinet was Mr. Lu Cheng-hsiang, the Foreign
Minister, and I was informed that his Ministry was establishing a committee
to study the problems China should present to the Peace Conference, using
one side, and the Central Powers on the other. I believed that the treaty
from the Imperial observatory at Peking by the German forces at the time
but also for the expenses that China had incurred in repatriating German
and Tsingtao was one which China could justifiably take up at the
was directly contrary to Japan’s views. Japan had always been insistent,
ever since the conclusion of the Treaty of 1915 that it was for her to
discuss the Shantung question at the peace conference, and not for China
to do so. Even after China entered the war on the side of the Allies,
so far as the Shantung question was concerned, and she sought and obtained
China's reluctant consent that Japan would return the Shantung Province
to China by negotiation after Japan had had her seizure of German rights
the stand, and I was strongly urging it on the Government, that China
should raise the question at the Peace Conference as a matter of her own
right, ignoring the treaty which she had signed with Japan under duress.
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The general feeling in the summer of 1918, especially after the Battle
of Verdun, was that the end of the war was approaching. Both this general
feeling and my warning to Peking to take early steps to prepare for peace
were justified by the turn of events because by October, Austria sued for
peace. This made Germany^ collapse imminent, and the war was definitely
ended when an armistice was signed on November 11, 1918. While the early
termination of the war was not unexpected, the armistice seemed to take
notified that a supreme council would be set up and meet to consider the
terms of peace which should be asked of Germany and the other Central powers.
tative to attend the proposed meeting of the Supreme Council of the Allied
prised and though it was out of the question for me to leave Washington at
in Washington during the following few weeks when the question of the peace
terms with both Germany and other Central powers would be pushed to a con
clusion b«<«4H*e« it was known that the United States government certainly had
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a great deal to say which would have a great influence upon both the British
Chinese Government .would not count much upon either Great Britain or France.
The only real hope was to secure the support of the United States at the
peace conference.
as Spanish influenza. Her death was not only a great loss but a terrible
shock to me because she passed away after only a few days of illness,
leaving two children, respectively, of one year and two years of age.
himself passed away of the same disease. My own Legation lost not only
my wife but the wife of my third secretary and the son of my second secretary,
all within ten days. The epidemic was so bad that it was difficult to
secure coffins for the dead people. The passing of my wife upset ray own
family and the sorrow that the two members of my staff suffered made
._This was a personal reason behind ray decision not to go to France immediately.
My major reason was that during the days before the convocation of the peace
about the policy and views of the United States government, particularly
of the peace conference, being at once the head of the most powerful
country on the side of the Allies, and the recognized spokesman of the
Allied cause throughout the world. His famous fourteen points remained
a favorite topic for conversation in many quarters. Not only did they
of Europe, but they constituted a ray of hope for the oppressed nations
These reasons which I had for refusing to leave the United States
with the President himself on the problems o# the prospects of the coming
Peace Conference which it was then known would be held in Paris. Toward
the latter part of November, the question of the peace conference became
Paris. I visited the State Department many times during those days in
the hope of getting some accurate information as to the way in which the
Peace Conference would be organized and what countries on the Allied side
United States was a friend of China and would do its best to promote
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the Chinese cause and see to it that China was represented at the Peace
Conference; however the final program plan would have to be discussed and
For China the immediate question was to know the number of seats
China would obtain at the Peace Conference. China*s government desired and
expected that she would be treated as a great power and that her delegates
powers. The impression which the Chinese Minister in Paris obtained from
the Quai d*Orsay was almost as encouraging as that from Washington: that
China could send as many delegates as she desired, but that the question
Foreign Minister, were rather optimistic on this problem because, at the time
when the Allies were trying hard to get China to enter the war on their side,
they promised that if China entered the war she would be treated at the
reliance and confidence on this formal promise. But when the question
actually arose after the war was terminated and the question of organizing
it was decided by the principal Allied powers that there would be three
Allied and Associated Powers. The five principal ones, each, were
entitled to five seats; countries which rendered certain effective aid and
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assistance in the war were entitled to three seats; and the remaining
members of the Allied camp would be entitled to two each. China fell into
the last category, and was thus allotted only two seats. The disappointment
in this decision was great, both in China and in other countries placed in the
third category. The Chinese Government was unhappy, not only because of
its effect upon China^ prestige, both in the country and abroad, but also
because of the difficulty which it gave rise to for the government to decide
and other Chinese ministers abroad that he counted upon their cooperation at
ters he expressed the same desire and intention, for example, the Chinese
Wei-teh, the doyen of the Chinese foreign service abroad. Dr. Alfred Sze,
Dr. W. W. Yen, who had been concurrently minister to Denmark and Minister
to Germany, and finally Mr. Wang Yun-pao. Accordingly Mr. Lu felt himself
number of seats assigned to China when the limit was two. Instructions
was held up by the Foreign Minister who, himself, naturally, was to be the
As time went on very rapidly, the Chinese Minister was urged to go to Paris
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1918, but the few ships that were still operating between Asia and Europe were
was
already booked to capacity. It/at first impossible to secure accommodation
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not csnly* for him»«l‘f, but also for his family and the minimum/which he
needed to bring with him. The Minister in Tokyo was instructed to make a
great effort to arrange with some Japanese shipping line for the necessary
accommodations, but while they promised to do their best, they did not
have any success. So the actual departure was some weeks later than expected.
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^Uid-going through Korea and Japan,- ho wswt through the United States,
San Erancisco and New York, without, however, visiting Washington on hi«-
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way, h€Ki reluctantly made a visit to the Japanese Foreign
Minister i-tHTokyo.
The reason for his reluctance was that he was not feeling well, and would
had on instruction from the Japanese Foreign Ministry, made all the
Minister. It was apparent that the Japanese were looking forward to entertain
ing Minister Lu. Japan’s hope was that China would raise no difficulty
for her at the Peace Conference and they wanted to talk things over with the
already on his way to Japan - that he would not be able to carry out the
on his duties at the Legation and later offered his resignation. It took
several telegrams from the Chinese Prime Minister and the President to
was also urged by the President and Prime Minister to do his best to visit
Tokyo and follow the arrangements that had been made for him. It was for
this reason that Mr. Lu Cheng-hsiang went to Tokyo to pay a visit on the
Foreign Minister, but he declined both the audience with the Emperor and the
luncheon party.
about to leave Washington for Paris. Before doing so, I asked to call on
towards China*8 hopes at the conference and to sound the President^ views
I had, with instructions from Peking, addressed to him through the Secretary
and expectations at the Peace Conference and asking for the United States1
the document - put into Englisty at the Legation on the request of the
Third, that the Protocol of 1901 which was the Boxer trouble in 1900 should
be revised, if not completely abrogated. The two points that were emphasized
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that the protocol had been carried out in full ever since it had been made.
offer our regrets for the killing of a Japanese legation secretary, the
assassination of the German envoy; etc. had all been accomplished, even the
difficult item requiring the stoppage of the imperial examinations for three
years, which had evidently been designed to impress the educated, literary
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classof the Chinese people had also been carried out. The only provisions
restriction placed upon China*s tariff autonomy. The memorandum urged that
with respect to the protection of the legation, that there was no longer
any need of legation guards and foreign garrisons along the Peking-
since the time when the protocol was signed had been a generally recognized
fact. Therefore, the memorandum urged that the guards and garrisons should
be permanently withdrawn.
The second point was that in view of China's fiscal difficulties and
in the interest of doing justice to China the tariff rate of foreign imports
the so-called the likin, which was then imposed on goods passing through
from one place to another within China. Since the question of the abolition
of likin would take some time to put into effect, it was urged that the
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I had been assured by both the Secretary of State Mr. Lansing and the
the U.S. towards China*s hopes as stated in the memorandum. But X wanted
to get a direct reaction from the President, in order to assure the government
and he hoped that X would keep in touch with the U.S. delegation. But
evidently he was more preoccupied with his program for the peace conference.
He talked at length about his hopes in the Conference and he reiterated what
he had already stated in his famous Fourteen points; if the world was to have
permanent peace, he said there must be a new order. The war had to be
gains for any of the victorious powers nor any reward in indemnities,
his favorite subject. When we had exchanged views on this subject, he made
it clear that he would count upon China*s support at the Conference for a
to go with him on the same boat to France, but I politely declined because
preparation of the principles and policy which were to guide the impending
Peace Conference. My voyage across the Atlantic was uneventful except that it
was an unduly long one, taking ten days. The Chinese minister in Paris
sent his counselor to meet me at Cherbourg together with the Chinese consul
in France.
way. of Moscow. At first sight I found Paris greatly changed. The war
had done no visible damage to the French capital but the atmosphere was
different. The streets were hardly crowded at night and even such big
thoroughfares, as the Grand Boulevard and the Champs Elysles were rather
quiet, their lights subdued. The cafes were doing little business.
French people seemed to prefer, at the time, to stay more at home than to
come out into the streets and enjoy themselves. I was told many of the
prominent French families especially the womenfolk had left Paris during
the four secretaries I brought along with me. But it was difficult to have the
house heated, a common difficulty at the time because coal supplies were
scarce, as my colleague from London, Dr. Alfred Sze who arrived just before
had warned me. It was through the special effort of my colleague, Mr. Hu
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Wei-teh, the Chinese minister to Paris, that I was able to secure a sufficient
urge the Legation to continue to secure coal for my house. Food supplies
were somewhat scarce also, but X left that entirely to the French housekeeper.
lines of the work of the committee which I had set up in the Legation in
Washington. With the data which the committee had collected and compiled
X drafted a program for the delegation which was to be submitted for approval
seven questions - (1) 21 demands and the Shantung Question (2) the relin
China, (4) the return of the foreign settlements in different parts of China,
(5) the withdrawal of the foreign forces stationed in China, (6) the abolition
of the foreign post offices established on Chinese territory and (7) the
restoration of tariff autonomy to China. Dr. Sze and I discussed the list
prepared by Dr. Hawklin Yen. He was my college mate at St. Johns and also
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a fellow candidate of Doctor of Philosophy at Columbia. He had not yet
arrived but he was coming with Minister Lu and was already on the way and
was one of the counselors of the Chinese delegation. This was a tentative
Paris.
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This did not take me long, and I completed two memoranda on the subject; one,
on the principles which were to serve as the basis of the new world organi
zation and the views of the principal Allied and Associated powers so far as
X knew them. The second memorandum dealt with the importance of the future
world organization to China and reasons why China should give her full
support to the proposed organization. I knew these two subjects were rather
new from the Chinese point of view. Little had been known about the
colleagues in the Foreign Service. This was not unexpected since the need
the greatest amount of interest in the U.S. while in England and France
in writing, asked me what X was writing about. I told him that I was
preparing two memoranda, one of which had already been completed; and
when I handed him the first one for him to read, his answer was a typical
the U.S., and especially from President Wilson and Col. House.
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time for the arrival of his train in Paris was even more so. Several
reports had come from the counselor of the Legation and the special
T’ang while several other Chinese diplomats were waiting in their own
Foreign Minister and his party at the station. It was, however, not until
four o’clock in the morning that it was definite that the train was to
welcome the Chinese Minister and his family and associates fron Peking.
amidst a number of French representatives from the Quai d’Orsay and the
Lutetia to which the party was conducted was the general headquarters
The first meeting called by the Foreign Minister was held in the
the attention of the Chinese diplomats present was the number of dele
was evident that this question was very much on the mind of Minister Lu;
it was equally evident that he felt very strongly about China being allotted
only two seats, according to the information at the time. After the
report that the principal Allied and Associated powers would each have five
seats, it had been hoped that at least five seats would be assigned to
Chinese ministers abroad inviting them each to join the delegation and
be one of the delegates. But he took it upon himself to see the French
Foreign Minister and the French Prime Minister, who was understood to
very largely on these two gentlemen because ha, himself, was a very
good French scholar and had always kept in close touch with France.
Meanwhile he asked Mr. Sze and myself to take the matter up again
the same time, however, that this question was one of interest not only
to China but also to certain other Powers such as Brazil and Spain who were
also asking for an increase in the number of seats assigned to them. The
tives did not bring much encouragement except for the feeling that the
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U.S. would back China^ request if not for five seats, at least for more
The response from the French and the British was far less encouraging.
From the Quai dIOrsay the reply was mostly discouraging. It was explained
was the amount of war effort made by each nation on the Allied side.
Minister Lu based his argument at the Quai dIOrsay on a report that Brazil
seats; he urged that China should be similarly treated. But he was told
that China had given little positive war aid while Brazil,by patrolling
the south Atlantic with her naval units, had done great service to the
Allied cause because she had given protection to Allied ships transporting
war ammunition.
In the afternoon of January 18th, just about 36 hours before the formal
present were a number of advisors from China and the counselors of the
Several said that it was for the Foreign Minister to decide. After much
general interest of ChinaIs cause and in view of the need for the help
clear to Minister Lu at the Quai d^rsay that while China, could only
occupy two official seats, she might send any two delegates to the
meetings and would not necessarily be confined to the same two delegates
all the time. He said he would like to have Dr. C, T. Wang to be the
second delegate; myself, as the third delegate; Dr. Sze, as the fourth;
and Dr. Wei Chen«tsu, as the fifth. He added that he wanted to include
Dr. Wei Chen-tsu because he had been the Secretary«General of the Commission
practice. He added that he would very much like to include Minister Hu,
who was then the Chinese minister in Paris, the seat of the Conference,
but as the number of the seats was so limited, he asked Dr. Hu to under
stand that he would count upon him for his cooperation and would consider
Mr. Hu, a gentleman diplomat of the old school and a Chinese scholar,
special title, and assured Minister Lu that he was not anxious on that
point.
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Then I spoke and said that as far as the mandate was concerned, I
felt it would be much more appropriate if X was put fifth instead of third
Dr. Alfred Sze was much senior to me in the foreign service and Minister
Wei was also senior to me in age and in 1912 at the Kuo«wu yuan had been
before. What I was interested in was the work which was to take place.
Minister Lu said that contact with the U.S. Delegation was of utmost
importance to the questions China was interested in and that I was the
natural person to keep in close contact with the U.S. Delegation. Mr. Wei
but in regard to Mr. Alfred Sze, it would be only proper that he should
Mr. C. T. Wang, Dr. Alfred Sze, myself, and Mr. Wei Chen-tsu. A note
Mr. Wei was to prepare a telegram to the President of China asking him
morning, a Sunday, I had an urgent telephone from Mr. Yueh saying that
out what the matter was that was so urgent. He asked me to read
requested the recall of the note which had been sent less than 24 hours
mandate had jus«_ been received appointing five Chinese delegates in the
following order: Minister Lu, myself. Dr. C. T. Wang, Dr. Sze and Dr. We
I told Mr. Yueh, at once, "Please don1t send it, I am going to talk to
order of the five delegates with my own name now placed above Dr. Wang
and Dr. Sze. I told him that this was a surprise to me and that he
could explain to Peking that the official notification had already been
sent and it would not be becoming to recall the first one and to send
in the second one purely because of the order of the delegates. Any
Conference.
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he said, his note was only a note from the Foreign Minister: a telegram
the Foreign Minister. And the wishes of the President must be respected:
we were all servants of the government. I told him that it was imma
spot or in the fourth spot, but that he, himself, was not sure that he
would be able to attend all the meetings, as his health was not too good.
on the part of the President and the Government about his health. On
that point he felttifaat Peking was right; if he was not able to keep up
his work at any time, naturally, in the eyes of Peking, I would be the
one to act for him and advocate China^ cause. In view of the political
had already been asked to prepare the note and it would be despatched.I
I saw there was no more room for me to argue, so I went to Mr. Yueh^s
office and told him of the reaction. I told him not to send it and to ask
gates was an insignificant one and only concerned the two delegates
themselves. But Mr. Yueh said, the old man told me to prepare it quickly
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matter and it does not concern the conference." But he said, "You
know as well as I do that once he has made up his mind he can’t change
it. With that, I said I would go and talk to Alfred Sze, who was the
very cheerfully but the moment I mentioned that a telegram had just come
from Peking, the moment said 1 just came from the Hotel , and
had been shown the text of a telegram from the President concerning
As soon as I told him, I could see him turn blue in his face and remain
silent with anger. I told him not to think too much of it, I was not
going to accept the second place. "You are much senior to me in the
not going to accept it, so you can rest assured in me. If you want to
know the reason, besides the official reason I have a personal reason: I
am ten years younger than you are, I have ten years more of opportunity."
Dr. Sze remained silent as a stone and did not say a word. I thought
to Mrs. Sze, who was the wife of a cousin of mine. I assured her that I
before. I left her after she assured me that she believed me and
insisted on sending it. Lu evidently was ,on the horns of a dilemma and
found the situation personally most difficult for him. He himself was
not enjoying too good health, and Peking knew it; and it was quite right
for Peking to be prepared in case Minister Lu's health would again fail
him as it did twice during his voyage from Peking to Paris, particularly,
abandon the whole program which the Chinese minister in Tokyo had arranged
with the Japanese Foreign Office and the imperial palace. I felt certain
was equally sure that he could not ignore the terms of the president^
mandate.
This was one horn of his dilemma. The other horn was that at the
same time he, felt in duty bound to keep the second place for Dr. C. T.
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Wang. As he/explained at one of the Delegation^ meetings he had
Conference. If China had just three seats Dr. C. T. Wang would be one
of them, if China was going to have only two seats, Dr. Wang would be
one of the two. This promise he felt he must keep, not merely for
personal reasons but also for China - vis-a-vis the whole conference
and the outside world. As it turned out. Dr. C. T. Wang became the
fourth delegate, while Dr. Sze was second and I third. What friction
government for some time before the start of the Conference. It had
been hoped that the political regime in theSouth could secure some kind
In fact Dr. Wang had personally taken some effective steps with the
help of one of his personal American friends to get the South represented.
Dr. John R. Mott, to whom Dr. Wang conveyed his personal desire, had
Meanwhile Dr. C. T. Wang stayed in New York from early summer or late
spring 1918 until his departure for Paris on the same boat as Minister
that regime. More active than Dr, C. T. Wang were two men who had been
officially sent from Canton and who issued a number of public statements
on behalf of the South and gave interviews to the press. Unlike Dr, Wang,
Quo Tai-chi and Mr, Eugene Chen did come to Washington and it was
the dinner I wanted to give was a private one to have a personal talk as
came, for I had known them for many years rather closely. We had a
of the points that were discussed at the time. They were strongly in
favor of the southern regime and would like to see the fall of the Peking
but not unnatural for us to have internal political quarrels, but that -
it was unnecessary and unwise to wash our dirty linen in public. I told
them that I had been rather surprised and somewhat upset to read about
of the Republic, I said that it had never entered my mind that I was
them that one of the most advanced democracies was Great Britain1s,
the government publicly and openly, but there was hardly a single
To all this they did not answer directlyj it would have been difficult
all of us could and did speak on sensitive matters without being mis
They went to Paris much later than Dr. C. T. Wang. They went there
Delegation. I gathered from them that Dr. C. T. Wang was not representing
the southern regime at all. Privately they made it clear that although
at Peking so that the South would be represented they were the two
Washington after Dr. C. T. Wang had left for Paris. Dr. Quo and
Mr. Eugene Chen had apparently been completely surprised and furious that
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gation was later confirmed on more than one occasion by other leaders of
the Canton regime, such as Mr. Wang Ching-wei and Dr. C. C. Wu, both
Both Mr. Wang and Dr. Wu came also to represent the southern regime
political character. One of the conditions was that the political system
whole of the people of China. Although the letter was couched in polite
language, it was unmistakable that the southern regime was opposed to the
conference and the Delegation. Minister Lu and I and some of the others -
all knew him well. In fact. Dr. C. C. Wu and I had been colleagues in
Peking for nearly two years. When he arrived in Paris he was again
member of the Chinese Delegation, though he did not play a very active
especially between Mr. C. T. Wang and Mr. Alfred Sze on one side and
criticism and opposition at the delegates1 meetings. One- e-ans«- o-f- friction
In the first week after the formal opening of the conference we were
busy with the organization of the various commissions and it took some
campaigning to get China elected on some of them. Dr. C. T. Wang and Dr.
were assigned to advisors such as Dr* P. Yen, I had been busy with three
or four myself, and Dr. Sze was drafting one on the foreign post-offices
One of the first cases of open friction among the delegates was
as a student on the subject and had read my two memoranda on this subject
report after each meeting, for the benefit of Minister Lu and my other
was not available - in order to keep Peking informed. The Foreign Office
was most anxious to know the development on the question and the Delegation
telegrams came from Peking conveying the anxiety and impatience of the
circulated among the delegates. But time and time again, my reports
became the subject of objections from Mr. Alfried Sze and Dr. C. T. Wang.
It was evident, however, that their criticism was not well directed,
One criticism which was expressed in very strong terms was that one
committee and a bad one for China because it made it appear that China was
mandate system to solve the question of the colonies taken over from
Germany. They insisted that my report had that implication and made it a
point of attack against Minister Lu because they said it must have been
hsien regime. Their point was that I should have made known that China
Thus the delegation meetings became a gathering for the two delegates
Dr. Wang and Dr. Sze to indulge in fault findings and to attack either
tion in order to take down the minutes and carry out assignments by the
Delegation outside. The secretary»general in office then was Mr. Yueh Tsao-
Paris; he had ^-een working together with Minister Lu and was most
corps in Paris. But Dr. Sze and Dr. C. T. Wang were evidently most dis
pleased with Mr. Yueh because he drafted a note for Minister Lu altering
the order of the precedence of the previous note and had dispatched it
Mr. Yueh as a personal agent of Minister Lu and that the Delegation should
Delegation. Dr. Sze proposed Mr. Sze Ping, First Secretary of the
Chinese Legation in London, and his own trusted associate, to take the
place of Mr. Yueh. Dr. C. T. Wang was the one who seconded the motion.
I spoke up and expressed my views that Mr. Yueh had been carrying out his
duties very diligently and that he was well-qualified because of his contacts
in Paris. But Dr. Sze said that a motion had been made and seconded and
asked the chairman to put it into vote. Of course no one was suggested
except Mr. Sze, and Mr. Wang was the only one in favor. I said it was
not that Mr. Sze was not qualified: Mr. Yueh was doing very well and
I considered the change unnecessary. The rest of the delegates and ad
Wang Feng-chi, Chinese minister in Rome, Minister Tai from Spain and
Minister T!ang Tsai-fu from Holland and quite a few other Chinese diplo
matic representatives. Either they felt that they were not entitled
to vote, or they were not aware of the purpose behind the proposal, or
they did not want to take part in a personal quarrel among the delegates
Lu, the chairman, however, being a polite and mild gentleman and evidently
in conformity with the old philosopher of Lao-tzu, did not try to oppose
the proposal and merely said that the motion was adopted with his own
endorsement. With that, Mr. Yueh retired and Mr. Sze was called upon to
take his place at once. In future, Mr. Sze Ping was to take notes
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of the meetings of our Delegation instead ofMr. Yueh, who remained the
was the first time that any proposal or suggestion within the Delegation
that the Shantung question loomed large and was one of the difficult
been expected that sometime during the course of the conference China
would be called upon to present her case. But it was not expected that
the summons would come as early. It was on January 27th, at lunch time,
that we got the first intimation that China would be asked to present
her case in the same afternoon. This friendly warning came from Mr.
the State Department and adviser on the U.S. Delegation in Paris. He told
us that Japan had made her case in the morning session for retaining the
lunch table.
This news fell upon all those present at the lunch table like a
thunderbolt out of a clear sky. At the table were Mr. Alfred Sze,
Dr. C. T. Wang, Mr. Wei, Mr. Hu Wei-teh, Mr. Yueh: it was a practice
for the delegates, including Minister Lu, to take lunch together and to
talk over the program for the Delegation. Minister Lu was conspicuously
absent: he was laid up, indisposed, and did not join the lunch party.
Premier. He came back with the report that Monsieur Dutasta was pre
it was signed. This confirmed the report just telephoned by Mr. Williams.
disappeared from the minds of those present who attended the lunch, and
they all remained absolutely silent. I fully realized, and I am sure the
the time set was three o^lock. The letter actually arrived a little
after two. I then said this has to be reported to Minister Lu. Mr.
Yueh went upstairs to inform him but returned and said that Minister
Lu could not possibly attend the meeting as he was quite ill. Minister
Lu had asked us to decide who would go and attend the meeting and
present China^ case. It was then well after two o'clock, so I said there
and Dr. Alfred Sze as the next ranking delegates on the Chinese Delegation.
Knowing the feeling that Dr. Alfred Sze and C. T. Wang had and having
always kept maintaining that the order of the delegates was unimportant,
I never expected being placed before Dr. Sze, so there was no question
that Dr. C. T. Wang and Dr. Alfred Sze ought to go and present China's
case. As far as tte conference was concerned, any two might go: no
matter how many delegates China appointed herself she could always send
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question. "If anyone should go, you should go," he said, pointing
at me, because you have been studying the question and preparing it." I
replied that I supposed only one would speak, even if two went, so that
so that Mr. Yueh could notify the Secretary-General. "If Dr. Sze will
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go, and Dr^,was going to speak anyway," I said, "Dr. Sze doesn’t
have to speak." Dr. Wang said if he must go, he would go, but he would
not speak; he pointed to me and said that Dr. Koo should go and speak
on behalf of the Delegation. I said someone must speak but I was not going
Dr. Sze should go with Dr. Wang. Dr. Wang said that he would go only on
condition that I would go with him and do the speaking. "Well," I said,
"I cannot deny that I have been preparing this case and know something
about it, but nothing has been finally prepared or put in the final
form and we even had not discussed the question." It was finally
settled without any formal agreement. Dr. Alfred Sze was most sincere that
he was not going, and he left the table and went upstairs. C. T. Wang
said I must go, and he would go on condition that he would not have to
speak. So finally we took the bargain. I said you are the second dele
gate, in the absence of Minister Lu; you would naturally be the one to act
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in his place. But he said, "I am not prepared and you are, as we all know .
"Well," I said, "If you insist, I will speak; I have only one condition.
When they call upon the Chinese delegate to present China’s case, you
will get up and say I will ask my colleague to speak for China. You have
It was the first time that the Chinese Delegation was represented and it
was summoned purely because the Council was to take up the so-called
George, Mr. Arthur Balfour, President Wilson, Mr. Lansing, the Italian
Premier Orlando and his foreign secretary, Mr. Ishii and Baron Soriinu,
on the chairman’s right, on the floor, and facing them, we were seated on
his left. In the center the rows of benches were nearly filled with the
the room. The chairman called upon the Japanese Delegation to present the
Baron Makino made a fairly brief statement, claiming for Japan respect
for the treaty which Japan and China had signed and explaining that the
question was settled between Japan and China on the basis of tte Sino-
Japane.se treaty and agreements entered into between them; and he exjj) lained
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would need some time to preapre an answer. I conferred with Dr. Wang
and asked him to say that I would be ready to give a reply but we would
The next day January 28, we again went and, as the only item on the
called for the Chinese Delegation to make their statement as agreed upon.
I urged Dr. C. T. Wang to rise and say that he had asked his colleague,
upon, X was called upon to speak and I made a statement lasting a little
but I was mentally prepared as I had been studying the question and formu
there was applause from the gentlemen of the Chinese Delegation and Presi
dent Wilson walked over and congratulated me, followed by Mr. Lloyd
statement I had made. Both President Wilson and Lloyd George said it
front bench, facing the Chairman^, also shook hands with me and Dr.
day.
writing within the next two or three days. I said that as the Chinese
require some time to communicate with our government and get all the
had asked also for the text of the agreement concluded between China and
was expected to send in. So, finally, the chairman agreed to a period
of one week, at the end of which the statement with the agreement was
When we left the room - before we left the room - a number of those
of the Shantung Question, and said that the fact that so many of the
principal delegates at the meeting had come over afterwards was a good
had their press officers who were in the habit of receiving press repre
sentatives after the meetings. So, in the evening, the local papers
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well as to China and Japan. For in the following few days, telegrams
included a telegram from the President of China, the Premier, one from
these reports aroused great hope in China and also among friendly circles
in Paris of the certainty that China would win her case at the Conference.
naturally felt encouraged and pleased with the reception, but it was
one thing to have the statement favorably received and quite another
and the same evening, after reporting to Minister Lu and the other
discuss the general lines of the written statement. There was not much
discussion because they all indicated that I would know what was to be
put in the written statement, since I had been studying it all along.
urged, and I agreed with them, that all the relevant agreements should
the agreements made in the Fail of 1918 were filed. It was therefore
for the text of the agreements concluded with Japan, because even the
Foreign Minister's files brought along by him did not contain these
agreements.
which was lost. I had brought along from Washington all the data on
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the League of Nations but many of the documents on the Shantung question,
were not available. A number of secret agreements had been signed with
was rather mysterious. It was a file box, a case containing the most
and Tibet. Where it was lost was unknown. Most likely in Japan, but
information was conflicting. Some said they had seen it in New York
harbor, on the dock; others said it had never been seen in the U.S.,
either in San Francisco or New York. Score upon score of telegrams had
been exchanged between the Chinese Delegation in Washington and the New
York Consulate, back and forth, about this case. And the Consul general,
the ship and the dock chief - but, to the end, their efforts were
unsuccessful. The case had accompanied Minister Lu and entourage all the
way across the Pacific. I had my feelings that it was stolen deliberately
by the Japanese intelligence service. Nobody else would want it. It was
Japan.I
I was well aware that the Japanese knew everything that was going on,
attendants, detailed from the Peking police quarters - two strong men on
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the train, on the boat; they were literally watching uwenty-four hours,
twelve hours each. When one lunched, the other would take over so that not
for one minute was the case left unwatched. When I landed in Shimonoseki
from Korea, there was a very amusing incident. They knew that X was
annoyed. In order to get away from them, I walked into the station reading
it was in English. The girl came in, sat down next to me and got hold
the table. As I was reading, I cast my eyes to my right to see what she
was reading. She was looking at the English newspaper upside down. It
was more than a suspicion of mine that these two people were interested
documents guarded.
Well, the Ting-tzu-hsiang was never recovered, so that all the hope
I had int- those documents to furnish all the necessary details y'which had
telegraphed to Peking for the text of all the agreements and exchanges of
notes concluded between China and Japan in the few months preceding the open
ing of the Peace Conference. I recall it took us some time - first to get
all the texts of the agreements from Peking and then to have them translated
into English. These agreements had lengthy texts, and the telegrams
For some reason or other, several times the replies from Peking stated
that all the agreements had now been communicated, but we found some
missing and we telegraphed for them and after a time they found
delegates, particularly C. T. Wang and Alfred Sze stated that they were
under the impression that Peking was not anxious to let the delegation
have the texts of all its agreements for political reasons. Whether that
missing ones included the Railway consortium Agreement and the War
week, but it was necessary to wait for a final approval of the other
delegates. Mr. Yueh reported that the Secretary-General of the Peace Conferenc
telephoned, wanting to know how soon the written statement would be sent
in; they were anxiously awaiting it. And the Chinese delegation -
especially myself - was most anxious to rush things through, too, but
it took time. Finally, the whole thing was completed and we had a meeting
of the Delegation for final approval before it was submitted by Mr. Yueh.
At the last minute everyone agreed that the. memoranda containing the
formal statement of China, together with the annex of the relevant agreements
out and bought some but it was not enough for one copy; and we had to
supply several copies - not only a foif^al copy to the Council of Ten, but
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** the United States, Great Britain, and some other friendly delegations.
It was an all night affair, seated in the dining room around the dinner
table. I felt helpless because I was the only delegate present - the
Once the statement was sent in, my colleagues and I expected that
it would take the Council of Ten some time to discuss and reach a con
clusion. The first impression had been a favorable one, for several
to observe the Conference and to advise the Delegation. Those who had
were from the Kuomintang, and there were others from that party. There
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were leaders of the Yen-chipf hsi. It was in opposition to Kuomintang,
Dr. Carson Chang and Professor Li who had taught at American universities
Washington, there were also men like Mr. Tseng Ch’i and Tso Shun-sheng,
generally believed that China had won her case. Judging by the telegrams
Meanwhile the friction among the delegates was growing more serious. At
one of the meetings early in February which was called for ten o’clock,
I arrived a little early, for it was a habit to get there two or three
and one or two secretaries. At the head of the long table the usual
place was reserved for the dhairraan. Minister Lu, but I saw there were two
to me and I asked the new secretary-general what the idea was and who
had been responsible? He said it was the gentleman named Maljor Chao
telegraphed request from Dr. Wang. It was he, according to Mr. Sze Ping,
who rearranged the seating. I asked why; he did not know except that
Mr. Chao told him that Dr. C. T. Wang represented the South just as Minister
should sit as co-chairmen. But a more amusing situation arose when all
nevertheless took the seat quietly on the left next to me. And
C. T. Wang walked in with great dignity and sat down in the chair on
so taken aback that he remained quiet for a few seconds. But Dr. C. T.
Wang took the bull by its horns, announced the meeting was now opened
and called for reports. Minister Lu said nothing but as the meeting
went on Dr. C. T, Wang elbowed further and further to the left and each
time caused Minister Lu to edge away until the Minister was off the
table, at my side. It was evident that others felt the same distaste if
not disgust with the situation, but the meeting went on. I remember I
said nothing and kept: refraining from making the report. Finally I called
out that Minister Lu was Minister of Foreign Affairs and head of the
before we could proceed with the work of the meeting. It was, however,
The next day. Minister Lu did not attend the meeting and said he
and left Paris. His destination was not known. Even his closest friend
and life-long supporter, Mr. Wang Fang-chi, Minister to Rome, did not
know; nor did Mr. Hsia Yu-ting, another of his intimate friends, the
Minister to Brazil. We were not only surprised but also wondering how
to deal with the situation. The membership of the Delegation was evidently
divided into two camps. One, in sympathy with Dr. Sze and Dili.Wang
and the other was with Minister Lu. I remember after a brief talk with
Mr. Wei Chen-tsu, I called a meeting of some of the advisers and the
Delegation at all. I felt it was most urgent that the work of preparation
to locate Minister Lu and bring him back. I think it was Mr. Wang
he had a house on Lake Locarno which was his favorite spot for rest.
During the rest of February we went on with our work despite Mr. Lu’s
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Peking was greatly alarmed to learn that Mr. Lu had left Paris
had suddenly abandoned his delegation. In Paris rumor had it that Mr.
Liang Ch'i-ch'ao who had left Peking for Paris was to replace him as the
head of the Delegation. [In fact the President and the Prime Minister
telegraphed to Mr. Lu saying that Mr. Liang was working over various pro
documents.] The rumor was not taken too seriously by the members of the
relations between China and Japan. The impression may not necessarily
have been true at the time; but the fact that he was a close adviser of
the President in Peking and the head of the Progressive Party which had
some credence to the rumors. Minister Lu came back about the first part
tion with Peking: the files of telegrams which are now available
indicate that he had been negotiating with Peking to have his authority
his colleagues who had been causing him great difficulty within the
had come out with a two full-page editorial directed particularly at me.
marry Mr. Tsao Ju-lin’s daughter. Mr. Tsao Ju-lin, of course, was then
The telegram went on to say that the editorial commented how sad it
was for China at the most critical time in her history, when the prospect
had turned against his own country’s interest by allying himself with
invented such a baseless rumor. It was true that I had known Mr. Tsao
Ju-lin and worked with him in the Foreign Office, especially at the
time of the Twenty-one Demands. But I had always found Mr. Tsao, so far
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prompt reply from Shanghai said that the report was given out in Canton
might have had something to do with the situation in Paris and I was
For two days, I did not say anything to anybody; but when I
Wang was at my right. So toward the end of the lunch, I told Dr. C. T.
Wang that I was most curious: I had received a telegram from Shanghai to
the effect that I was engaged to marry Miss Tsao. I said it could not
a widower then because I had lost my wife. I told him that the news had
gone from Paris to Canton and had been given out by Canton. So I asked
him whether he knew about it or whether it was he who sent it. And his
face became red but he said, "Yes." I said, "Do you believe it was
and see each other everyday, at least you could have asked me first,
before you sent the telegram". So his face became redder and he said,
"I hope it*8 not true." I said, "You know it is not true." Then he said,
"I am not the only one who sent it: C. C. Wu also sent the same report."
That ended our conversation and I was greatly upset that one of my own
By then Dr. C. C. Wu had left for New York.„ I wrote him a personal
note at once to get a reply from him whether it was true. Meanwhile,
I went to see Mr. Wang Ching-wei whom I had known for years and told him
what happened and what C. T. Wang had said. And Wang Ching-wei was so
mad he said "You come with me and I*11 slap his face in your presence.
C. T. Wang was representing the South. Wang Ching-wei said "No, no.
he continued, he was not representing the South because his points were
objected to; he had ignored the objection and had come by himself to
Paris. I had no way of knowing whether this was true or not, but it
Minister Lu. had told us at the very first meeting in January that he
wanted Mr. C. T. Wang to have the second spot on the delegation because he
C. T. Wang was a liar. He said he had never heard of this thing and
C. T. Wang was.
I never had met Miss Tsao. She was in Peking and I was in Paris.
I don*t know how many daughters Mr. Tsao had or which daughter I was
and I, not a word, since the time that we had been colleagues at the
After President WilsonTs departure for the U.S. and the disappearance
were finally completed and sent to the Peace Conference about the middle
President Wilson’s visit to the U.S. and the situation which developed
position and prestige at the Conference. The Draft Covenant was the work
and it had been his profound hope that he would secure the approval of the
achieve one of his most cherished objectives. But he found fairly strong
Senator Borah from Wisconsin. Their opposition seemed to have taken effect,
can people as a whole. The isolationist sentiment in the U.S. was still
strong and the opposition of the Senate reflected public opinion in the
the President found himself upon his return to Paris proved to be a difficult
one. He, on his part, felt that he would have to be cautious in handling
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the various problems which still faced the Conference, including the
Saar region which was a great source of iron and coal for Europe and on
ran counter to the views and the policy of the U.S. as expounded by
President Wilson.
Germany. But the question of Fiume gave perhaps the greatest difficulty
supporting President Wilson and the latter had to stand practically alone
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against Italy. His position was understandable, for he could not have
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yielded on this question without abandoning the principle of no
territorial annexation, which was one of his fourteen points. His decided
Italian Delegation.
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Japan, which was one of the five principal Allied and Associated
Powers constituting the Council of Ten and the Supreme Council, stood
Guam which was of special interest to the U.S,, while the exclusion of
Guam from the transfer of the control of the former German-held islands
President insisted. Another issue was the claim put forward by Japan
of the League of ^ations and which, however, was one of Japan*s most
earnest claims.
In short, the whole situation which faced the President upon his
return to Paris was quite a contrast to that which had prevailed before
was nothing at the time to indicate anything definite about the possible
upon by Japan. For the six weeks following President Wilson's return,
the Council of Ten and the Supreme Council tackled the various concrete
problems in spite of the breakdown of the unity of the five powers as the
result of Italy's withdrawal from, the Conference. This was only one
and took steps to persuade the friendly powers, especially the U.S.
possible for fear that the powers over the other question would delay
of the U.S., Great Britain and France seemed to indicate that there was
no definite plan and that it would be some time before the question could
resentment directed against him by other countries whose claims were opposed
Lansing doubted the wisdom of such a settlement, and General Bliss and
Toward the end of April, it was known that the question of Shantung
had been taken up and discussed and some kind of settlement reached.
Wilson, Mr. Lloyd George and M. Clemenceau would like to see the
people present - the President, the British Minister and the French
We were cordially received but we noticed the serious look on the faces
them. President Wilson started by saying how many problems the conference
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was faced with and how difficult it had been for him to reach a settle
ment on some of them. One of the difficult problems was the Shantung
claim at the conference with regard to the Shantung question. And he was
representing the U.S. - was the only free one - the only one unhampered
to deal with the question. And he said the proposed settlement wished
by the Supreme Council was that for the one he was going to tell us
it might not be to our satisfaction, but he said it was the best they could
do under the circumstances, and then he told us the formula which was
that Japan would receive the leased territory of Kiaochow and all the
rights stipulated in the treaty between China and Germany and that Japan
then would return the leased territory to China, but would keep all the
statement was that embodied in the settlement agreed upon by the Supreme
hearing from them. It might not meet with our expectation but that was
the best result that could be obtained frcm the Council in view of the
support Japans claim, and Italy, which had already withdrawn from the
conference.]
could understand English more directly and I did. I told President Wilson
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Wilson very frankly how disappointed I was and how unfair it was;
and would really sow the seeds for future trouble in Asia. In our view,
world peace. I pointed out to him that the settlement said nothing about
a time table according to which Japan was to return all her rights
in Shantung to China. In any case what China had askea for was not a
transfer through Japan but a direct transfer to China. That was the
main point of our claim and the main point in our memorandum on the
that it was the best he could obtain for China. But he tried to assure
adjust all claims for readjustment and to uphold the code of justice
free to present her claims before the League at any time she should
desire. I tried to point out that the League of Nations was a good thing
but that China had doubts whether the League of Nations would be in
a better position to alter the settlement that had just been suggested
by President Wilson.
Lloyd George then said he would like to ask a question. He said would
China prefer then the settlement which China had reached with Japan, not
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only as a result of the Twenty One Demands but especially as agreed
upon in the exchange of notes of September 1918 between Japan and China,
which made it clear that Japan was to succeed only to the economic
and not to the Kiaochow leased territory. I pounced up and told Minister
Lu what Lloyd George had said and suggested this was an unfair choice
and that we could not accept either, and Minister Lu fully agreed.
George had just said. So, after consultation with Mr. Lu, I said that
Mr. Lloyd GeorgeIs question would put China on the two horns of a
I explained what the aim of Japan was in Asia, and said that the
possession of the economic rights in Shantung which was one of the stra
tegic provinces along the coast would merely serve the facility of Japan1s
powers.
President Wilson said that perhaps the Chinese Delegation would like
to consider what he had just said about the settlement and would
understand better that such a proposal was the best obtainable under the
circumstances. 1 asked for a copy of the formula which had been just
stated by President Wilson and also the minutes of the proceedings of the
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Council of Ten at which the settlement was reached. At this point,
President Wilson turned to Mr. Lloyd George and Mr. Lloyd George
turned to General Hankey, who said that the minutes of the Council
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of Ten were confidential and secret. But I urged that on such/serious
furnished with full record of what had been discussed and how the
Chinese Delegation would perhaps like to take some time to study what
lost no time in reporting to the President and Prime Minister through the
Foreign Office. It had not been unexpected that the final settlement
would not be very favorable but it had not been even suspected that it
Japan and was to negotiate subsequently with China for return of the
May 25, 1915, based on Japan's Twenty-One Demands, were respected as well
pointed out that the settlement proposed and notified to us was really
based upon the 1915 treaty which as everybody knew had been accepted by
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China after an ultimatum. The exchange of notes had been only a sequel
law that a peace-time treaty made under duress and threat of war could not
was that he realized that it was not the best settlement for China,
but it was the best obtainable under the circumstances, in view of the
position in which the other powers friendly to China like Great Britain
It was already the end of April; the remaining six or seven weeks
may be divided into two periods. The first one was occupied by a struggle
to get a full copy of the text of the decision reached at the Council of
Ten in order that China could be fully acquainted with the nature and
text. This was obtained in the end, although it was given to us under
a pledge of complete secrecy. They said it was not the practice of the
had been settled by the Council of Ten had had their requests for the
When, after about two weeks, we saw the full text, we were not any
was not a fair settlement; even Col. House, a very close friend and
confidential envoy of President Wilson during the war, did not hesitate to
say that he was disappointed that President Wilson had been placed in such 1__
a difficult position by the fact that Great Britain and France had committed
themselves - had tied their hands •• and were unable to render any help
at all to China. I saw Mr. Lansing, Mr. Henry White, as. well as Mr.
E. T. Williams and Dr. Stanley Hornbeck and Mr. Ray Stannard Baker, a
one of the five U.S. envoys. Without exception, they all felt sorry
for China. They said that it was a disappointment to them and they could
not quite understand why President Wilson had felt himself to agree that
settlement had been made by President Wilson without the full consultation
of his own delegation. This was no surprise because for some time already
on the various problems facing the Conierence and often took it upon
responsible for the United States and he was entitled to his authority.
But the fact that in accepting a settlement, he did not fully consider
s*r respect the views of the whole delegation seemed to convey a general
would see one or more of them and their discontent was almost unmistakable.
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After the conference, the published memoirs of Dr. Lansing showed that
Wilson, were sympathetic toward China, and even discussed with me as to the
manner of revision, the delegation, naturally, could not take any definite
position without the approval of President Wilson himself. It was more and
revision of the Shantung settlement, whose terms had been adopted and
Throughout May until the early part of June, the delegation concen
with the other allies than with the United States. By this time Italy,
the fourth principal Allied country friendly to China, had already with
drawn from the conference. When the British delegates were approached,
they said their hands were tied and they thought that the actual decision
was the best obtainable in the circumstances. They made it clear that the
problem was not what Great Britain or France or the United States would
like to do; it was mainly the practical question of securing the agreement
occasion M. Pichon, whom Minister Lu saw and spoke to, expressed himself
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as being contented with the settlement because it had been secured only
Japan and the other four principal Allied Powers constituting the Council
of Ten.
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When it was found that no modification was obtainable/the secretary-
general of the conference was busy preparing for the signing of the German
of the terms of the peace to the German envoys except in the particular
from Peking by the Germans during the Boxer trouble and of course the
was definitely a sore point. Besides these there was China,s interest
in the Covenant of the League of Nations. The Covenant was made the
first part of the treaty of peace at the instance, it was understood then,
sure that the Senate of the United States could not reject the Covenant
Council of Ten and the Supreme Council, the Chinese Delegation understood
the foreign powers on the basis of justice and equality. All the Chinese
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any direct action by the Conference because the problems arising directly
out of the war were already so difficult and numerous that there was
problems. This situation had, in fact, been made clear to me and Minister
to China, China could always bring the situation to the Council of the
It was kncwn, of course, that after the Germans were given the terms
for the Chinese delegation to consider what attitude to take towards the
question. From the very outset, I took the position that China should
not sign the treaty without making reservations as regards the Shantung
settlement. So that this would be the last resort, it was necessary for
protect China. For the rest of the Delegation the question of adopting
final attitudes was still premature. There was hope that it might be
that she would do so. For Germany it was merely a question of losing
matter to her whether she lost them to Japan or to China. She had more
treaty in Europe.
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ticipated in by the whole delegation. By that time, Dr. Alfred Sze_ had
already gone back to London, and Dr. W. W. Yen, and some other Ministers
who were advisers of the delegation had returned to their posts in Europe,
the discussion therefore took place only among those remaining, with
Minister Lu absent and confined in the St. Cloud Hospital. The general
attitude of the Delegation had not altered from the sentiments expressed
without the reservation, although some who were equally dissatisfied with
the decision of the Council of Ten of the Supreme Council expressed great
a clear opinion: Dr. Sze, Dr. C. T. Wang and I myself were in favor of
not signing. I spoke at some length not only of the disappointment but
of the unfairness of the decision, and the conclusion reached was that
The task of securing a reservation was then the sine qua non for a
fairly favorable Peace Treaty as far as China was concerned. But the
situation had become more difficult because by that time the Conference
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Peace Treaty. President Wilson was preparing to leave Paris for the
United States and Prime Minister Lloyd George had already returned to
principal delegations.
Not long before the 28th of June, the date set for the final meeting
delegations and for Dr. Alfred Sze to approach the British Delegation,
question.
treaty, and the French Foreign Minister had told him that it was abso
ments which had been made for many of the Allied and Associated nations
British Delegation on their part considered that any reservation was out
of the question, and like the French were adamant in their stand against
it. Sir Ronald Macleay, adviser to the British Delegation who had
served as the British Minister in Peking, was the channel through which
Dr. Alfred Sze contacted the British delegation most of the time, and
I myself also had talks with Sir Ronald. Personally he was sympathetic
to the Chinese cause and promised to do his best to persuade his chief,
a serious one and he did not think there was any hope for it.
treaty. His attitude, although different from the other members of the
Wilson, for the United States delegation soon found out that President
The reasons the President had were perhaps the following: (1) any
which had been objected to in several respects by the Senate of the United
ly from Japan, which had been insisting upon the incorporation of the
refusal on ChinaIs part to sign the treaty if the reservation was not
allowed was out of the question. It would exclude China from member
thing left for China to do was to refuse to sign. Seeing that the
reservation was out of the question, the third reason became a cause
a member and would lose the advantage of membership. The other members
The United States Delegation had assured me that they too would
seriousl}r look into this aspect of the problem. It was a happy coin
cidence a few days later, when I discussed Chinals predicament with Mr.
Lansing, Mr. E. T. Williams, afwi Colonel House and his assistant Mr.
Baker that we all saw the same light to the darkness which seemed to
envelop the whole situation concerning China at Paris. They said they
found out that China would become a member of the League of Nations by
signing the Austrian Treaty since the first part of the proposed Peace
Treaty with Austria consisted of the text of the covenant of the League
of Nations. With this discovery, I was even more firmly convinced that
But the efforts to secure the reservation continued, in fact, until the
morning of the very day on which the treaty was to be signed at Versailles.
time had returned to Washington and that of Great Britain, whose Foreign
was very unlikely that we could secure the approval of the French, who
were apprehensive lest one reservation would lead to many other reser
On the afternoon of June 27th, the day before the Treaty was to be
the treaty China did not accept the articles relating to Shantung. The
conversation only lasted about five minutes. He was adamant that any
such declaration even though it was not to be attached to the treaty but
China would be a departure from usual practice and would strike a dis
cordant note in the Allied ranks. With this rebuff, the hope of securing
The government seemed to have fully made up its mind that the treaty
to agree with this and inclined toward signing the treaty, being apprehen
a reservation did not enter people’s minds. The efforts we were making
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the hope against hope of success, though we were reporting fully on our
from the Peking Foreign Office indicating the high tension in China and
the pressure being brought upon the government against signing and
Mr. Lu by this time had already been at St. Cloud for a few days.
It was at this point that a letter was received from the Secretary-
the other delegations, to send the seals of the China^ two plenipoten
tiaries, who were to sign the treaty on June 28th. Although it was
customary to affix the seals after the signing, it was found necessary,
that it would be better to wait until the last moment before June 28th
essential not to give the impression by sending the seals so early that
the Chinese Delegation was not very serious in trying to get a reservation
But the explanation given by the Secretary General Yueh was that the
the request for the seals was purely a matter of procedure to shorten
delegation.
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to sign the treaty but that some of the Chinese delegates were holding
C 9, The Eve of June 28th: China Absents Herself from the Signing of the
Treaty
On the evening of the 27th of June, theday before the signing of the
great dissatisfaction and if not the only reason it had been one of
the principal reasons which led to the May 4th Incident. In Paris,
assurance that China would not sign the treaty without a reservation,
and with the threat that if they were to sign they would do everything
to stop them from doing so. I was anxious to get the final word from
Lu
Minister/in order to be in a position to face these various bodies which
China had been pouring into the Delegation from various public organiza
tions and the governors of some of the Provinces, urging the Chinese
Delegation not to sign. They were all the more anxious because they
was the patriotic duty of the Delegation in Paris to take a positive stand
It was after dinner and I found Mr. Yueh with Minister Lu. Our
talk continued for several hours. In the middle, Monsieur Yueh took
told the Foreign Minister that he had been attacked in the garden on
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on the hospital grounds. According to his story, there must have been
hundreds of Chinese men and women, including many students and some
overseas merchants. They had stopped him and asked him to tell them
why he was in favor of signing the Peace Treaty, Even after he assured
them that he was only the Secretary-General of the Delegation and did not
have a say of signing or not signing, the crowd closed in on him and
Lu who they thought had already decided to sign the treaty against the
to Monsieur Yueh, they threatened to kill him, and one of the members,
pocket. Then he had run back. He said he would have to spend the
night at the hospital. I tried my best to calm him and said that they
him. So about two o^lock, I asked to leave and took Mr. Yueh along and
said I would look after his safety. We went down and the crowd closed
on him. When they saw me, the tension seemed to be eased because
evidently they had understood that I was on the side of not signing
the treaty. I told them that China would certainly not sign thetreaty
there was no question of China signing the treaty. I told them not to
And with that assurance, they dispersed and we left. Years later
in New York, I would often see Madame Wei Tao-ming and her husband. She
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St. Cloud on June 27, 1919. On one occasion four years ago she
was in the crisis, so I told them I knew all about the incident:
laughed and said, "You are so right, Mr. Yueh actually was
she found me so brave. And I said, "I knew you didn't have
bers like Dr. W. W. Yen, were of the opinion and I shared their
view that to isolate China herself from the great body of the
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me - the color of the sky, the shade of the trees and the
the surprise and emotion that the other delegates present would
feel at seeing the two chairs reserved for the Chinese pleni
for the whole Delegation and for China. China's absence must
new foreign minister, M. Lu, had asked the President and the
Decodt, who was in very close touch with the French. M. DeCodt,
words, while public opinion in China was fully certain and con
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among the delegates and advisers. Actually many of those
that people just drifted away and there was no longer much
even the minister to Paris, Mr. Hu Wei—teh was not seen very much.
see Mr. Lu. I was running back and forth between Paris and
Dr. Alfred Sze, for example, despite his previous doubts, had
the year 1918 just on the eve of the termination of the war. The
sign agreements with Japan and thus secure financial and other
been originated from the time when the Anfu party took control
wishes.
and start the first Mukden Chihli War. One could wonder what
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time limit for the reversion of the former German leased terri
for she could not legally take over the rights she succeeded
against Germany, but she was naturally anxious to obtain not only
Even before the signing of the German treaty, there had been
had been growing after President Wilson's return from Paris for
regarding the Shantung question added oil to the fire which had
same time save Japan's face. It was not doubted that after what
limit after which she would hand back to China the German
and one year was suggested by the American and British ministers.
between the North aid the South. Peking government would not
between Japan on one hand and the United States and Britain
not to mention the other states, had all been looking at the
close touch with the U.S. and American observer in Geneva. This
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assignment was an exchange with Dr. Alfred Sze who had been
item for China. The Hungarian Treaty was signed in the fall
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occasion and I was also told the custom was that the new
only his staff at the foreign office, but also the chiefs
Stated was very friendly with China and that China was always
paper that Mr. Lloyd George and Lord Curzon were not working
and spoke tome about the news that Washington was probably
was going on. It turned out that Mr. Lloyd George was himself
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have been quite aware. The newspapers did not avoid this
was asked to see Lord Curzon came out with a study of the
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both the foreign minister and myself. The message stated that
tentiary was Mr. Alfred Sze, since he was the resident minister
po^-^ted out, not only was Dr. Alfred Sze the resident minister
War at one time. The second man was Mr. Liang Ju-hao generally
sent to the U.S. in the late 70's or early 80's. After his
friend not only of myself, as I had known him for years and
but was also a close friend of Mr. Alfred Sze and Dr. C. H.
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and the U.S. in the Pacific and the Far East, a situation
her foreign policy in the Pacific and the Far East. The
From her viewpoint the main opposition party was Japan. She
had great hopes that at last the Shantung question would have
between different groups, not only between the South and the
North, but also between the rival tu-chuns at the time. The
solve the Chinese situation and bring about peace and possible
were most needed; those who were familiar with the Chinese
There were also experts from the Navy and the Army. Most of the
the
As far as China was concerned,/most important problem of
the conference was the Far Eastern problem. China was not
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Netherlands.
with theFar Eastern situation but also well known in China either
Apart from the Chinese and the Japanese delegates, the British
was commented in the press that the participating countries were all
now whether or not Prime Minister Lloyd George actually came to the
tariffs in China.
was very business-like and sympathetic toward China. Senator Root was
far more than China. The confused situation and lack of unity in
problem; he was not only reasonable and fair-minded but also very
his mind. His way of expressing his view, his calm dispassionate
The French and with them the Dutch and Belgian delegates relatively
that outside Japan and China the British and Americans played the most
important role.
Admiral Kato hardly appeared in the first two meetings. The meetings
were always attended by Baron Kijuro Shidehara and Mr. Masanao Hanihara;
all three of the Japanese spoke English. I think Mr. Sarraut and M.
Briand spoke French. The Dutch spoke English, except van Karnebeek who
spoke French. Van Blokland spoke English very well. Viviani spoke
both languages very well but spoke only French in the conference. He
was more fluent in French. Schanzer spoke French and Italian. When
leased territories, and the customs tariff, Dr. Wang and I usually spoke.
We had arranged that each was to defend the topics on which he had
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clear-cut. But following the delivery of the prepared arguments, when the
on the whole more often in the debate after the initial rallies.
been revised. The general impression X had had from Versailles was
that they were prepared to enter into discussion of all the comments
The question like the first four divisions of the Twanty-one Demands
positive action was taken on them. I suppose they were just too
visit to China and studied the judicial system. The Chinese delegation
was of course very much concerned with the abolition of spheres of in
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Jojae cfn which the United States Delegation found embarrassing to express
of their adherence to the policy of the Open Door^ /so although China
on the one side and the Conference as a whole was rather unusual.
And the relationship and the Shantung Conversations and the Conference
wishes of Japan. The other problems, so far the Pacific and Far
armaments.
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ahieve and fair and just settlement of the Shantung question had been
to China on this question, but his efforts had been handicapped because
he had been unable to obtain the support of the other Great Powers. Lloyd
George had told me that Great Britain was not in a position to support
China because Britain had made commitments to Japan during the war. The
concluded, could not abandon her commitments and in accordance with them
a year or two to hand back Tsingtao and territory to China, but the
did not appear to have the confidence to secure some compromise on the
since the question had become a political issue in the United States,
judging from the controversy between the Senate and the Administration
it would be wise for China rather than to accept some kind of unfavorable
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settlement to take a little time and see how the situation
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by Peking including Mr. Yen the foreign minister giving deep consider
question rather than as a question between China and Japan led to the
mise with Japan*s point of view that this conversation was quite separate
from the Conference. The United States considered that what mattered
the €on£erence,,t ati accepted part of the Conference. All along China
had taken the stand that on the Shantung question^ China would not
and Japan but also the general situation of the Pacific and the Far
East. Therefore, just as this question had been brought to the Paris
sations apart from the naval limitation conference, yet at the same
Britain that they should have observers present at the conversation without
taking part; they explained to the Chinese that these observers would
sit and watch at the same time, but their main purpose was to observe
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and Shidehara. On the Chinese side, there was Dr. Sze, Dr. C. H. Wang,
behind the Chinese representatives. During the first few weeks there
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was a Chinese secretary-general. Dr. Philip Giuwte, assisted by
someone from the secretariat, and the Japanese side also had a secretary-
general, It was decided at the very first meeting that each side would
the delegates. Baron Kato did not come regularly and only the opening
meeting did he say something. After the first two or three meetings,
After the first meeting it was always Baron Shidehara who actually
negotiated on the Japanese side while I was the one who did the most
talking on the Chinese side. Our basic policy or attitude on any question
that what I said was always in accordance with the agreed stand.
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to begin with the major or minor points for discussion. Among the
over the administration and the taking over of the port administration.
the piers and docks, and yielded a great deal of revenue. Then there
were the questions of the police and the post; it was not difficult
questions.
taken up after the simpler questions had already been disposed of. But
to this line of procedure, although the first ten days of the conver
China was running the risk of losing time and finding Iherself later on
question. His idea wa that China should attack the railway question from
the very beginning while my idea, also that of Dr. Sze and Dr. Wang,
Fu argued that the railway question was the most important question
of the whole Shantung problem and it was Japan's policy to delay dis
cussion as much as possible so that she would be able by playing for time
to force China into a position where she had to accept the Japanese
that to hold over the bigger questions was a wiser course and I think
problems. First of all the Japanese, when asked to expound their views,
unhesitatingly said that they would like to have this question settled on
was simply taking over and substituting herself for Germany on the
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Japanese. But under the bid loan agreement, the President of the company
had been a Chinese but actual ly running the company were a German engi
difficult question was in connection with the railway police for the
protection of the railway within what they called the railway zone. The
mineral resources within the railway zone. Japan took a firm stand with
undoubtedly out of their belief in support from Paris and London. Great
Britain and France took the position in the end that while territorial
rights, not only in connection with the railway but also in the
very strongly in our conversations with the heads of the three other
Chinese sovereignty.
Japan was firm in her attitude to the railway. She was putting
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forth the claim that from her point of view the settlement should be a
in connection with all the railway interests. But when prodded hard,
because the railway had already been constructed and was already in
but China wanted also to pay off the loan which would do away with
the whole agreement and make the railway revert to China. (The railway
day after day. Finally the Chinese Government directed its representa
upon and provoked general laughter on the part of the observers, Mr.
John Van A. MacMurray and Sir Miles Lampson. [Mr. MacMurray was then the
chief of the Far Eastern Division in the State Department while Sir Miles
Lampson the British observer was the Chief of the China Service in the
British Foreign Office; the idea was that Mr. MacMurray would keep in
close contact with the Chinese Delegation and Sir Miles with the
there was no need of a loan; China was ready to pay it off and it was
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unusual for any nation to insist on another nation accepting a loan when
the loan was not required. As I put it, Japan seemed anxious to make
money.
required funds could be raised easily and promptly the answer was a
and from General Wu p’ei-fu - all were in favor of paying the loan right
away. Chang Tso-lin even went to the extent of remitting the the sum
to ask them whether the promised contributions could be counted upon and
whether cash could be raised, because even though some of the governors
lived up to their promises and signed a check or money order, whether they
all could be converted into cash from the Exchange was another question.
far something less than half a million dollars had been collc.cted and
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as far as they could see the total amount that could be counted upon could
not be over $2 or $3 million. They pointed out that these promises were
from the point of view of China*s economic and financial situation « was
what the telegrams to fche Delegation had promised could not be counted
upon and- that even if they could the effect on ChinaTis money market - the
handing over of such a vast sum as $25 million in foreign exchange would
course never intimated to the Delegation that the money could be readily
find that much money itself, the government directed the Delegation to
The Japanese wanted 20 years at first; they came down to between fifteen
to twelve years.
That was one question finally disposed of. Then came the question
of three key posts, that of the chief engineer, chief accomitant, and
the loan- we offered them the post of chief engineer; China was to appoint
the chief accountant and chief traffic mana ger. But Japan Attached
greater importance to the other two posts than the chief engineer post.
We said that since the railway had already been built, if Japan wanted she
could appoint a chief engineer bu: China would supply the ordinary care of
the equipment and locomotives and plant and so forth. But Japan did not
want it. Both sides were aware that the railway had already been in
operation. In the old days the post of chief engineer was very important,
before the line was built, because it affected the location of the line
which might go through certain parts that had natural resources, trade
centers, and so on; moreover the engineer had had the initiative and
Finally we left the question of the engineer. The Japanese were quite
Chinese engineer, and since Japan had a financial interest in the railway
administration, we did not insist very much on the Chinese chief engineer.
The center of the dispute was over the chief traffic manager because
handling of the goods and would have great effect on the trade. It was
on that question that both sides argued at length for many days. The
and whnn the Chinese objected that a Chinese be chief traffic manager, they
traffic manager and offered the deputy to the Japanese. Both sides became
so adamant on this point after arguing for several days that no progress
could be made. I do not know how much difficulty the Japanese had with
their own government but the Chinese delegates on their side had
a very prominent role. All along he insisted that the Chinese Govern
ment should stand firm and have all the three posts reserved for the
that Japan would have a grip on the railway and it would interfere with
the flow of Chinese trade and the development of the economic resources
for a while, but seeing no progress was made and the two observers,
who, while not taking part in the negotiations felt themselves responsible
acceptable to both.
So the final position we took was that the Chinese in any case should
have the post of chief traffic manager but that of accountant was
yielded to the Japanese; since the Japanese were to have the chief
accountantship it was only fair that the Chinese should have the
Shidehara pointed out that this point should not be such a difficult
question: after all it was only one of the many problems connected
with the railway and so, he said, in order to show the extremely concilia
accept the Chinese traffic manager with a Japanese deputy. The rights
of the two officers would be more or less equal - they would have to agree
while the most that Japan could agree on was a deputy Chinese traffic
journalists and a great many American and European and Japanese jour
nalists; they were trying to ask what was the progress so far, but we
I remember the same evening just before dinner time, he came in the
Dr. Alfred Sze, but spoke to Dr. Wang,and probably Ma Soo. General
Huang Fu, and Chiang Mon-lin, though I1m not sure if he came or not,
and myself and Dr. Sze thought that we should, but Dr. Wang told us
After weighing the arguments and so forth, we still came to the conclu
we declined it the conference was sure to break up. Dr. Sze and Dr.
Wang saw it exactly in the same light, but Dr. Wang was worried
about the opposition. In the morning in Moran House there was a con
stant flow of calls from members of the Delegation, the general im
strongly^opposed to it.
and told them that it was provoking a great deal of criticism and un
easiness. When we had explained it to them, they agreed with us, which
two when people began to assemble nearby. The noise became greater and
greater and as we were about to leave, between half past two and three
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o*clock, the secretary Philip Gfaiao came to say that there was a mob
in Moran House and outside wanting to see the delegates: they had
heard that the delegates were going to accept the Japanese formula. Their
attitude was so threatening that the secretary Dr. Gfeiao and two or
three others said that we had better not go down, but time was going
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very fast and there were telephone calls every two or three minutes
from Mr. MacMurray asking what had happened: the Japanese had arrived and
we were late. To the first two or three calls, we said we're going,
we*re going. By then the people downstairs were yelling and I wanted to
go down myself. Dr. Wang and Dr. Sze thought I shouldn't and sent Dr.
Chiao, and Y. F. Tsao, but they couldn't calm them. The telephone rang
phone and told Mr. MacMurray what the trouble was, and he said, "Oh,
Chinese delegates thought that the agreement just reached with Japan
was a fair compromise, adding that if they believed that that agreement
that in any diplomatic negotiations one could not get one hundred per
cent of what one wanted and that, in this particular case with Japan,
the Chinese delegates had got more than fifty percent. I pointed out
that both from the technical point of view and from the point of view of
prestige, we had got the maximum from Japan and could not expect
Japan to yield any more. If we did not accept this, I said, the con-
•a-
ference would certainly break up; in that case there would be no certainty
that the conference would be resumed because China was not in a position
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to bring pressure upon Japan. I also told them that the British and
and his people, he must be responsible to them and must not misuse the
peopled rights, but I warned them that, if the conference broke up,
we could not see any way by which it could be resumed. Then, the
people around me responded: "We don^ care about that.1 The only thing
we want is that you should say no." I told them that I might say no,
When we reached the Pan American Building, the Japanese delegates had
been waiting for us for half an hour. Accordingly, they asked us what
our answer was. I said that we appreciated the spirit of the compromise
proposition they had presented to us, but .... When I uttered the word
but, Mr. Shidehara went out of the room right away. I believe that the
Japanese delegates should have known that the Chinese peopled objection
to the agreement was strong and that the Chinese Delegation was even
surrounded by the Chinese people; I believe that they should have ex
Peking, called on Mr. Liang and congratulated him on the occasion. When
Obata asked Liang what his new policy on the Shantung question would
be, Liang said, "To have a loan to redeem the railroad." On December
28, 1921, the Chinese Delegation received from the Foreign Office a
telegram which contained this story. Actually, just before his interview
with Liang, Obata had called on Dr. Yen, who continued to be the
Foreign Minister in the new cabinet, and asked him whether the Chins se
tions sent from Peking. (Obata was apparently instructed by his govern
ment in Tokyo. It should be noted that Obata was more or less tympa-
thetic with the so-called "young officers group" in Japan.) Dr. Yen^
Secretary Hughes and a few others learned it from the Japanese Delegation.
Thus, for two or three weeks, there was a confused situation. The
Britain and the United States. The answer was that our government had
denouncing the new cabinet, particularly the new prime minister. The
Chine se Delegation did not know what was happening in Peking; they got
information from the Americans and the British. Dr. Sze and I saw Mr.
Hughes, at his invitation, and later saw Mr. Balfour at his invitation.
Both urged us to reconsider our opposition and pointed out the confusion
which would follow from the failure to settle the Shantung question just
Mr. Balfour said the world outside would not understand how such an
held on the fringe of the Conference, were really a part of the Conference;
unless the Shantung question was settled, the conference on the limita
After the second week had passed, X asked what was the Japanese formula
then. They both said that they had been informed by Baron Shidehara
that Japan would not accept anything less than a chief Japanese traffic
manager, with the post of a deputy traffic manager for a Chinese, who could
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Part I. Dr. Yen's Second Premiership, June 11, 1922 to August 5, 1922
three delegates would visit Peking for consultation with regard to the
as a matter of fact, did not go back to China; but Dr. Wang went back
report the work of the Conference to the Government. I was to go back too
did not begin to make my trip to China until late in April. I remember
I took a ship of the Peninsula & Oriental Line. In those days, it took
more than five weeks from London to Shanghai through the Suez Canal. When
I reached Shanghai in the latter part of May, it was already hot, at the
beginning of summer.
Soon after my arrival, one day at 2:30 p.m., I called on Yen to report
China and Great Britain. To my surprise Dr. Yen did not say anything
that same night to fetch his wife and children from Hangchow for the
he had to leave that same night, he had asked the Vice Minister of the
Foreign Office to play host on his behalf, and the dinner had already
was going to leave on that very day. When I asked him how soon he would
come back, he said he would be away from Peking for a few days in order
to take a rest. He added that, since he had been working for some time
a longer rest for the sake of his health, and he hoped that I would take
to enter into politics and wished to go back to London where I had been
After Dr. Yen’s departure from Peking, I visited President Hsu Shih-
told me that he wanted to give me a luncheon of welcome and had asked the
I had been absent from China for seven years in which the
In May the same year a treaty was signed between China and Japan
Then in 1917 in the tenure of Chief Executive Tuan Ch’i-jui, there was
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Meanwhile disputes centering upon the constitution had continued
of Yuan Shih-k’ai until 1917 when he was overthrown by Chang Hsun. After
the restoration of the republic, Feng Kuo-chang had been elected Vice
Thus, when Li Yuan-hung was overthrown by Chang Hsun, he turned over the
served together one presidential term of five years. Yuan was inaugurated
on October 10, 1913, so Feng's term naturally expired on October 10, 1918.
Then Hsu Shih-ch’ang was inaugurated president. At the same time there
loss as to the actual political situation. Some changes were in the air
and as the day passed before the date set by the President for the
welcoming dinner, each day brought more developments indicating that the
asking him to report to the President that seeing how much he must be
and I begged him not to feel any embarrassment in doing so. The
to have everything ready as planned and had even asked who w~v Id be
present, so that the President really wanted to have this party held
Hall. There were about 40 people there. Cabinet ministers, the Vice
commander [hsien ping ssu ling], police chief [ching fe-s a tsung chien] ,
party, and the leading members of the government and the official world
betraying the least sign that anything was going to happen. He was
absolutely calm. He turned to the guests on his left and spoke to those
drawing room and as fieffee was being served we were all standing,
gathering which gave him great pleasure; he knew it was not usual for
the host to say anything on an occasion of this kind but he felt it was
strong, he felt it was time for him to take a rest. He understood that
in the company there were some - but I think few - who could have known
to leave in his car and we all followed to see him off at the railway
station! This was June|2; he left for his retirement around 3:00 p.m.
- to welcome the new president! Dr. Wang Ch’ung-hui was among those
at the station when President Hsu left, but by the time General Li's
train pulled in, I was surprised to see Dr. Yen as well. I said,
"When did you come back?" He said, "Last night." Just a few days
before, he had left Peking for Hankow after bringing his wife back. I
saw him walk over and whisper something to Dr. C. H. Wang. So I said
to myself there must be something going on. This was on the railway sta
tion. Dr. C. T. Wang was there too, and many faces familiar to me.
X was surprised to see not only Dr. Yen there but many others who I had
been told were away from Peking. They had been in Tientsin or elsewhere,
went to my home.
Dr. C. H. Wang before I left the station said, "I have something
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important to tell you." After a while he came to my house and said
said he had mentioned something about his being tired of being the
Dr. Wang said he specially asked him to convey roe the message. But
I said that could not possibly be, so far as I am concerned. I had just
come back to report and I had brought very few articles of clothing with
Well I didn’t take it very seriously but I thought there was some
kind of political game going on. The reason I did not follow the crowd
to General Li’s house was that while we were waiting - there was Wu
and it was known that Wu, Wang, Yen, and C. T. Wang had gone to
discuss the formation of the new Cabinet. Then in the afternoon it was
announced that the Cabinet would be announced the same afternoon. But
later in the afternoon, they said it was not ready yet, and that Dr.
Yen had left- Peking for the Western Hills. Dr. C. T. Wang had been sent
by the President to persuade Dr. Yen to come back. The reason, I think it
Mr. T’ang Shao-i as the prime minister and W. W. Yen as foreign minister
pending the arrival of Mr. T'ang Shao-i, and that Dr. Yen meanwhile
was to act as Premier. Dr. Yen did not like it so he left. Well,
it was uncertain when Mr. T'ang Shao-i would come or whether he was willing
to come at all, but it was the unanimous desire of the parliament leaders
that Mr. T'ang should be the prime minister. Evidently a bargain
had bean struck between the Southern or Hu-fa faction - with the
moral support of the Chihli party, for Hsu Shih~ch'ang, the resigning
reached betwen the Chihli and the southern group that General Li would
act temporarily as president to pave the way for Ts'ao K'un's accession.
Well the Cabinet was not formed the same evening. Dr. C. T.
Wang went to the Western Hills and did not succeed in bringing Dr. Yen
back. It was reported to the Cabinet makers and finally Dr. Yen's
point was carried. Now when his premiership was announced, he began to
form his Cabinet. I>i#£erenfc- friends came to me and said that General
Wu P'ei-fu, in fact both the Pao-ting and Loyang groups, then in the
I said I had just come back to take a look and try to help out in the
the Shantung Treaty, but they said the all-round sentiment was in favor
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of a hg«&a represented cabinet. "Anyway," they said, "you'll hear from
curious - how could X be chosen, since I had not been in political life
in Peking, and had only just come back? Among the people Dr. Yen was
Justice; Dr. Yen had hesitated and then said Dr. Alfred Sze was also
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a htt^a representative, therefore he wanted him to be Foreign Minister.
Dr. Yen had decided that pending Alfred Sze’s arrival he would act
ch'i especially with his liaison man the newspaperman W. H. Donald, who
was very much mixed up too. He loved China and had many friends.
One of them said, "Dr. Yen was going to telephone to you." At two
o'clock the phone rang and the servant said that Yen Tsung-li wanted
to speak to me. When I took up the telephone the voice said, "Wait,
the Premier will be with you in a moment," but after I had held on for a
while no one came so I hung up. After about twenty minutes to half an
hour, someone said that Dr. Yen had so many demands from different circles
I think that Lin Ch'ang-min was then the secretary general of the House,
the Chung-i Yuan. Towards the evening it was announced it was Huang
Yen-p'ei.
Next day Dr. Yen called Dr. Wang Ch'ung-hui to tell me that he wanted
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work closely with him, and therefore offered me the presidency of the
Dr. Wang that neither education nor finance was my line and in any
case I had come back just to stay a short while and my intention
remained the same. But no, he said, the financial affairs of China are
chaotic and Dr. Yen has something which a pure financier could not take
care of. He had to find some man outside of the financial world,
I told him this was completely outside my line. Later Dr. Yen telephoned
own judgment and that the job would have the same pay as that of a Cabinet
X just help out? Of course Chinese finance was in a mess, and there
Later I found out more about the struggle over the premiership,
House, strongly urged that Mr. T'ang Shao-i should be the titular head
of the Cabinet with Dr. Yen acting as Foreign Minister pending the arrival
of Mr. T'ang. And Dr. Yen had his own political friends. They advised
mapped out, and he fought for it and so the conflict of views could not
be solved and as Dr. Yen went away in protest, the situation became a
deadlock, because it was not certain whether Mr. T'ang Shao-i would
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accept, and if accepting, when he would come. So with C. T. Wang's
help - C. T. Wang was then vice president of the Senate, and Wang Chia-
Yen's wishes. But when the Cabinet was announced, Wu Ching-lien was
his colleagues, of whom several being also close friends of mine, came to
tell me. They said, "I'm afraid Dr. Yen's Cabinet will not last long,
he'll have a hard time when his cabinet is submitted for the approval
the House would not be able to approve the Cabinet unless there were
"Cheng-hsueh hsi" was also close to him, so that Wu had the Lower House
in his hands. When it became apparent that his Cabinet would not be
approved by the Parliament, Dr. Yen declared that his Cabinet would hold
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office for about six weeks and would be an interim one. Since the
Parliament would not meet until August 1, 1922, it was not necessary
the birthplace of General Wu.I often saw Sun and Kao, especially
the former, in the home of Dr. C. H. Wang, who was my close friend;
Actually, T'ang Shao-i was Prime Minister, and C. H. Wang was only
time it was hopeful that T'ang, who was in Shanghai, would accept
Cabinet, I could well understand the reason why T'ang did not want to
T'ang Shao-i Cabinet was simply a design to use his name. The
several reasons for this. First, there was the question of submitting
the list of Cabinet members to the Parliament for approval, and the
names of Sun Tan-lin and Kao En-hung were not favorably received
Parliament members said that Sun and Kao were not qualified to be
their names were included in the Cabinet list simply because they
Cabinet posts. It was known that Dr. C. H. Wang was under the
influence of Sun and Kao and that Wang was in constant contact
General Wu was a strong man and the backbone of the cabinet. Mr.
important, he did not have any particular love for the parliamentarians.
which was supported by some other groups, that when Parliament voted
Constitution there was no possibility that the two men Sun Tan-lin
life. Personally, I liked these two gentlemen and got along with
them very well, but their political experiences wer-e very limited;
Tan-lin was General Wu's chief secretary, while Kao En-hung had
dence of Wu; from the political point of view, it was not bad to
include them in the Cabinet because they would act as General Wu’s
From another point of view, the appointing of Sun and Kao was
it was known among the political circles that there was an under
would be brought back to the presidency for the time being, in order
and that, after Ts'ao K'un was elected President, Wu Ching-lien would
he was a very honest man and an efficient soldier and stood for
So, once more, the Cabinet was on one side, the President
was on another side and Parliament was on still another side. There
had made it known that the two ministers Sun Tai- lin and Kao
the channels of Sun and Kao, not to send his list of Cabinet members
to make the required payments, but he did not make any suggestion as
stand that, since Dr. Wang’s Cabinet members could not all be
I said I would telephone Mr. Lo and support Mr. Wu's request for
did not get much money and, in the second place, Wu was not
good reason privately, but that was not a wise way to handle the
borrow some money and ask the Finance Minister to guarantee the
do it. I argued with him. F.e said that what the bank wanted was
ahead with the loan agreement. I said, "When you say 'Go ahead,' you
approve it." I added that it was the Ministry of Finance which had
was on Dr. Wang's side and Dr. Wang was on the side of Sun Tan-lin
Wang did not fully inform me of the political maneuvers and consulta
was a scholar and a very courteous person, while Dr. Lo was the
Cantonese. I speak and understand Cantonese too, but I did not get
new Cabinet members, but the President was always advised by the
never do so. Once, twice, and thrice this question was brought to
every parliamentary government had to deal with. The only way was
to face the situation and there was no way to avoid it. I added
that parliamentary members were human beings too and that, so long
as you could make up a good case, they could not make trouble with you.
Since Dr. Wang noticed that I was always in favor of getting further
because they all wanted to make trouble. Then, they began to ask me
questions and I answered them very politely; I was honest with
them, trying to tell them the truth, the reasons, the difficulties
tion. Probably this was their real feeling. They told me that I
was lucky and I handled the situation al^ right. But this
the Cabinet ministers. That was the Chinese way of getting along
with Wu P'ei-fu’s men were also rather cool. One evening the
the occasion was, but it was a dinner party I gave to the leaders of
Parliament and the members of the Cabinet in an effort to bring
both sides together and reconcile them. The party took place
"You are the Prime Minister? What kind of Prime Minister are
down!" After all Dr. Wang was the Prime Minister, and he had to
that the course he was pursuing was not the wisest. I said,
expects that of all the persons you would pay the most scrupulous
law. You must make a decision. There are three alternatives. One
is to act in accordance with the Constitution and to ask the
for approval. If some names are not approved, then you proceed to
not want to submit the Cabinet for approval, you should resign.
is that, if you think that your Cabinet list would not be approved
because the two Wu P’ei-fu's men are included in the list, then you
list. These are the three alternatives, but you have so far
for you because of the two Wu P'ei-fu men [who strongly insisted
that the Cabinet should not submit the list of its members for
approval], and at the same time you cannot reach General Wu over
their heads. Since these two men opposed the first course and since
resign. You cannot stay on and at the same time refuse to choose
and that he was the loser in the struggle with Wu Ching-lien and his
not
parliamentary tricks. But I knew that this situation could/last
long aid that some parliamentary members were cooking something else
resign than to be forced out. Dr. Wang never said yes or no.
conflict between the Cabinet and Parliament. It did not take long
prominent members of the Cabinet and the armed forces were present.
received a telephone call from Mr. Lo's home, saying that a few
military men arrived and took him away in a way as if he had been
Dr. Wang said he had also been informed that Dr. Lo had been
arrested and that, together with Lo, another man, who was the
friends, was young and had impressed me as quite able. Dr. Lo's
report this to the President and find out why Dr. Lo, Minister of
Finance, had been treated in such a way as had been reported. Dr.
Dr. Wang that Lo's arrest was a matter affecting the whole cabinet,
of which Dr. Wang was the head; this was a serious action, the
house about 11:00 p.m. As I left him, I told him that, since I
had his approval, the first thing I would do the next morning was
meeting was going on. I was asked to sit down. The President was at
in Peking; there was the Chief of Police; there were also the
President's Office Jao Han-hsiang. There may have been one or two
others present, but I cannot recall their names now. When I arrived
that they knew my coming was in connection with Dr. Lo's arrest. I
said that Premier Wang Ch'ung-hui was not able to come and that I
of Finance was a serious matter not only for the Cabinet but also
Cabinet was acting; I said that how could it have happened that
one of the Cabinet minister had been arrested without the knowledge
of the Government, the Premier, or the Minister of Justice; therefore,
out how this event could have taken place and who ordered Dr. Lo's
who were present. He said that he did not order the arrest. So
I said that, if the President had not ordered the arrest, who could
President but also those who were present with him by saying that
outside world that China, like other countries, was a country ruled
ordered the arrest, then who could have ordered it? I said that,
and said that his office had given the order to arrest Lo Wen-kan.
said the President,"! simply told you the contents of the letter
from Speaker Wu, reporting the matter concerning the Austrian loan;
after receiving the letter, I did send for you, but I did not tell you
to arrest Dr. Lo." General Wang said, "When I came at your summons
and you told me the contents of the letter and I asked whether I
should act in accordance with the law, you said, 'Go ahead'."
"I did not order you to arrest him," replied the President. General
Wang said he had understood that the President meant he should take
Dr. Lo in charge. The President said it was Speaker Wu, who had
himself then said he had just reported this to the President and it
just said, nobody had given the order for the arrest. The
must act quickly to repair the damage that had been done. Pointing
After indicating that I was glad to know that the President saw the
point and was right, I left. Then, I went back to Dr. Wang's
house to report to him what had been going on. Shortly afterwards,
while I was still there. Dr. Wang received a telephone call probably
from the President's Office, saying that Dr. Lo had been released
and was invited to the President's Office and was presently with a
President, the Speaker of the House, and the President of the Senate
measures would risk the danger of Lo's leaving Peking and, thereby,
replied that Dr. Lo signed the loan agreement only after having
reported it to him but without having it approved by the
why Lo had signed the loan agreement at his home. Wang said that
could not be considered as very regular, but what mattered was whether
there was anything wrong with the contents of the loan agreement.
I added that that was a matter of substance and Dr. Wang should
look into it. The charge made by the Speaker of the House was
Wang in the form of kickback. Apparently that was what had stirred
two cases should be brought to light. Both Dr. Wang and I were
fully convinced of Dr. Lo's personal honesty. Moreover this
Cabinet such as the Minister of War, who did not hide his
War was in close touch with Wu Ching-lien, and there had already
been talk about his becoming the next Prime Minister. It was
reported that there was a secret pact between him and the Speaker
Cabinet posts.
The Formation and Fall of General Chang Shao-tseng^ Cabinet
lien* s group must have advised him to find out some elder statesman,
else in the Cabinet. At that time, even Dr. C. H. Wang was accused
with the Austrian loan. This accusation was made even by those
who knew perfectly well that these two men were above suspicion
this matter. I felt that, since under the Constitution the Cabinet
was still not cleared up. Jao said that the President had been
approached by both the Speaker of the House and the President of the
Senate, that they made the joint suggestion, and the President
that the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate
came to see me. They told me that both the House and the Senate
Han-hsiang.
and that China needed somebody whose name was known abroad to head
the downfall of the Cabinet in order that I might become the head
of the Cabinet. Finally, the President said that he would look for
me
someone to act temporarily as Premier, adding that he wanted/to remain
president of the Customs & Tariff Commission and that the President,
same time submit my resignation for his approval. Ch'en was a han-lin
me, we admired each other. Wang Ta-hsieh was an old man and always
met him was when he was Chinese Minister in London in 1908 and when
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a long conversation, and he impressed me very much. At that time
Dr. C. T. Wang took over the government and was Acting Premier
the House, had his problems in the House, which, in those days, was
more important than the Senate. Wu was the head of the I-yu-she
to Wu, particularly those who came from Kwangtung province, who were
Yin and one Ou-yang were three examples; they were close friends of
Dr. Wang and Dr. Lo; they did not favor Chang Shao-tseng because
Dr. Sze in fact came back and took up his office before his name
the one behind the Shih-ta-jen hu-t’ung. On the day the voting
took place in the Senate. People both in the Senate and outside it
all took for granted that the approval would present no problem,
vote.
Vice President of the Senate, had his own group and had great
one of the Senators from the Three Eastern Provinces, whose name
I do not remember now. This man was asked by Dr. Wang to take
Hills to stay away from the voting. When the voting was about
were more than thirty Senators from the Three Eastern Provinces,
and all of them had already written down the..word agree on their
votes, which were about to be cast for Dr. Sze’s nomination. After
the said right-hand man got instructions from Dr. Wang over the
Eastern Provinces to add the word not before the word agree on
their votes. As a result. Dr. Sze failed to get the necessary
direct evidence for this, but this was not only my understanding but
whom I talked about this matter. Besides, since Dr. Sze was not
what made the difference was that all the affirmative ballots
for Dr. Sze because toward the end of the Ch’ing period Dr. Sze
was for a time Customs Taotai in Harbin and as such he made quite
post as Foreign Minister in February 1923 and remained in his post for
Francs. It was for a time rumored that I had a hand in Huang Fu’s
resignation, but this was not true. What happened was that this
Gold Franc question first arose during my tenure of the
Trade and Commerce Department and the head of the General Affairs
Cabinet, giving an analysis of the question and the reasons why China
international lAw and precedents, the French claim was not well
who had been pressing for a reply. This negative reply aroused
also on the part of certain legations who were very much in the
I remember that in the political circles it had been taken for granted
that China could not refuse the French claim;the files of the
in that office was rather in the direction of accepting the claim for
since I had already left the Foreign Office. I told them, "I
approach the Foreign Office and ask for it, then they would have
the French Legation. At that time the Gold Franc question was one
office, his first official act was to send a reply to the French
Legation.
Shortly, this news reached Parliament. I am sure
Speaker of the House. The usual pattern was that among the five
tseng, who had made several promises to Wu but had carried out none
of them. One of the promises was that Chang would appoint Iwo
started between Cabinet on the one side and Parliament on the other.
ignore Parliament, the rout became more and more acute, and
the Gold Franc issue became an issue between the government and
Parliament.
April 8, 1923, but his resignation was held for some time. (Presi
dent Li Yuan-hung left Peking on June 13, 1923. Chang Shao-tseng left
I could not take the post so long as Lo Wen-kati's case was not cleared
with Lo's case had reached Minister of Justice Ch'eng K'o, who was to
post, Kao, Wu, and Lu said that, if such was my condition, Lo's case
The point of difference was that I would not take office until Lo
was released.
Peking and since his wife was a very good hostess, his house used
and Wu Yu-lin. Some one was smoking opium in bed, and others were
smoking cigars. Wu Ching-lien said that the meeting was arranged just
eyes of the world. He added that, as far as Dr. Lo's case was
everything just said; you are the one to carry out all what we have
following Lo’s release, but they said that it would better to have me
had left Peking, and under the Constitution the Cabinet could act
was understood that, for the sake of the good name of China, no
July 3, there was a group of men in the Cabinet, who were supported
too familiar with the internal problems. I argued that Mr. Kao
Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister, the man next in line;
meetings. The other members of the Cabinet saw my point and agreed t
did not want to deal with the various political groups, especially
the Paoting group, which really was the backbone of the Cabinet.
comfortable.
there was some bargaining between Ts'ao Jui on one side and
who was his campaign manager. Ts'ao Jui, who was known as
K'un, both before and after the latter's election. Ts'ao Jui
did not appear and did not seem to want to appear either in
public or in any large meetings, but he was the man who did all the
planning and arranging behind the scenes. Ts'ao Jui was much
general; his appearance and manners were much more refined than
refused to carry out the political deals which he had made with Wu.
one demand after another upon the Paoting clique. It was due to
his hard attitude and hard bargaining that the parliamentarians were
Speaker's group. Wu did not achieve his ambition, since Kao Ling-wei
against it. The reason I gave was that the loan in connection with
May Fourth Movement, I went on, and Parliament had more than
interests of the said loan into the capital account. Nobody spoke
after me. Then, Mr. Kao Ling-wei said that, since Minister Koo
Parliament must have had their agents in the Cabinet because they
knew that the Cabinet was handling the problem of the recognition
"I heard that you were going to Pei-tai-ho; please don't go!" I
said, "If that is the case, I shall abandon the trip." The next
When I.arrived the whole Cabinet was already seated. I took the chair
which was opposite to that of Kao Ling-wei, the Acting Premier, who
for being a little late." Then, I asked Kao what was the resolu
I suppose that Kiang must have asked Wu over the telephone about the
outcome of the discussion in the Cabinet. Wu, who went to the next
room to receive the call, said loudly, "Not yet! Not yet! We
Wang Lan-t'ing, who was one of the leaders of the Paoting group and
with you about something." And Wu Yu-ling said that he had to express
recognition of the loan because I had made my views clear; however, from
his point of view the question was very important as far as the election
[Dr. Koo]," he went on, "since you have been trained both in
China and abroad and have established your present reputation, you
he was speaking not only for himself but also for all others who
out the country would know the matter, and this would not only
affect Ts'ao K'un's chance of being elected but also give a weapon
"Let's go to eat."
informed of what deals had been made, and we had nothing to do with
elected; nobody knew to what extent his votes were bought. After
possible that some votes had been cast for considerations which might
and rumor about the election. The election activities, however, did
not belong to the Cabinet and still less to the Foreign Office. As
to leave this sort of thing to the politicians and not to have any
not affiliated with any political group or any military camp, we were
K'un than with any other chief of state, retaining the posts of
It was said that he was illiterate. I do not know how true it was.
reached the peak of political power in China. For that reason I was
very interested in him, and watched and studied him. Several things
I noticed about him gave me the answer which I had been seeking. He
was a born leader, even though his academic education was almost nil.
or devotion not only of his political supporters but also his military
but an annoying situation with Ts'ao K'un, who was the President
for which I was responsible, but which I was carrying out only under
side China as your most loyal supporter, yet he has openly attacked
President Ts'ao at once saw the point, and visibly showed his temper.
could not know what is going on here; and therefore he should shut up."
a man by special train the same afternoon. Next time I saw him,
from Wu P’ei-fu that from then on he would keep silent and not say
and New York and minister to Austria; he was a career diplomat and
a friend of mine. I told them that Huang was a career man and
had some experience, but the appointment to the Court of St. James
to be the most important post for any country. The next day
they approached me again, and two days later they pressed again.
I was considering and that for the London post we had to select the
right man for the right post; I also said that Mr. Huang was very
good in Washington and was in general good in temperament, bearing,
and speech, but, as for London, since H had been in that post myself,
I knew something about it and wanted to send the man most suited
Sun Pao-ch'i arrived the President was present and so were other
the President. He said that he and Mr. Lu and Mr. Kao had all
affairs. Mr. Koo has been dealing with foreign affairs, so I leave
direct answer from the President the others kept quiet. I was
very impressed because I had not spoken to the President and did not
his way of dealing with persons and questions was something quite
for one had served several presidents earlier; they would have
resented the confidence with which Marshal wrote out his mandate.
Marshal Wu had probably not talked the matter over with the
President because he had just arrived that afternoon and his visit to
the President was of very short duration. I was not even sure that
he had seen the President. But there was no difficulty at all, and
the President just approved it. This showed the President had full
to do well and serve China well. But, like all ether military men,
on the part of the Japanese and their relations with our Foreign
Office. When I went to see him he was busy with pen in hand because
was talking with me, three military leaders in Peking came to see him.
let them stand there for quite a while. So. General Wu and I
for a little while." The three waited for quite a few minutes.
toward China. I told him that during the time of civil war there must
him and that, as I was a civilian, I had better leave right away.
General Wu said, "No." Then he gave them orders without asking them
the train is ready; you are to telephone back to report at your first
stop." Then, he said to General Ch'e, "You are going to such and such
place on the same train and you are to telephone back and report."
The three asked him whether he had any more instructions. He said
that that there was no more and asked them to leave right away. At
that time Wang Huai-ch’ing was a full general and was very important.
The way in which General Wu spoke to Wang and the two other generals
showed the prestige of Wu. In fact, Wu was not only the military
was asked to form a new Cabinet. Sun had not occupied any
and Yen had been going along together. I myself did not care
much to remain in the government for the reason that my friends were
all out of it. The so-called Pao-ting clique was new to me.
and I were personal friends. The same was true with General Ts'ao
K'un, though I remember that one time before the election Ts'ao
wanted was to have Yen included in the Cabinet: Yen was much
Minister. I thought the reason was that during the recent period
other portfolio.
This was in the summer of 1924. When Sun resigned I was still in
said that the President and Sun Pao-ch'i agreed that, according to the
to hesitate and said all the other members in the Cabinet would
continue to help me. I said that was not the question, adding that
because he would look for someone else to organize the Cabinet and I
was to act in the interval.
Parliament would prefer me to take l up the post but I did not place
in the first place I did not even want to act as Premier. ^he
reason was that I was interested all the time in China's foreign
1922 his Cabinet did not function well and lasted little over six
Mr. Wu Ching-lien apread the report that if his name were submitted
was only one problem, that of the foreign portfolio; the others,
principally the finance portfolio, the Army and Navy and so forth
resign - in fact the whole Cabinet resigned when Dr. Yen was
finance portfolio. But the Finance Ministry was a key ministry and
informed by one of the Paoting leaders that Dr. Yen, the Premier,
fort in the Regency Cabinet and I had done well during a difficult
Yen was at first firm and when his firmness turned into a
in that case that Dr. Yen need not be Premier. The situation
that was told me by Mr. Wu Yu-ling, who was one of the closest
of which Dr. Yen was the Premier and in which Dr. Yen himself had
Dr. Yen and I had always been very good friends and in foreign
We saw eye to eye except in one large sphere, that is, in regard
to relations with Japan. On more than one occasion Dr. Yen was inclined
Japan's policy vis-a-vis China than I was. One reason for that was
probably that among his followers there were quite a few people
who were educated in Japan and were in close touch with Japan. For
Japanese policy towards China was made a pretext for not including
Ts'ao K'un and his supporters. Ts'ao K'un looked upon me as a natural
person for the foreign portfolio and so did Wu P'ei-fu even before
First there the sharp rivalry between Generals Ts'ao K’u^n and
he was recognized all around as the power behind the throne. After
done. He took pencil and paper and wrote down several mandates,
for the campaign against Fengtien. He wrote down his own name as
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the commander-in-chief and Feng Ytt-hsiang as the third Column,
General Sze as Chief of the Department of Martial Law. Then
for the financing of the campaign and he spoke in a very stern fashion,
rights and waiting to see how m»eh Japan would dare to carry out
24th by which time the military movements had been well under
first eager advance General Wu's forces were stopped, partly due
to the reinforced position of Chang Tso-lin's forces and partly due to
because of the poor support, also, from General Feng's flank. Then
Telegraph Office had been occupied by General Feng's troops and that
they also surrounded the President's Office. The city had fallen
into the control of General Feng's forces, who had come back from the
home to find out what the situation was and there I found Hsueh
Tu«pi, Pastor Liu; there was also one Cabinet colleague, Chang Kuo-
kan. Later on I think Mr. Wu YU-ling came. Dr. Yen appeared also
the Cabinet was to do. All I could gather was both Hsueh Tu-pi,
who claimed to have been sent by General Feng, and Pastor Liu
took the position that the only thing to do was for the Cabinet to
President's palace was relieved of the siege, and the Premier had to
had always been very friendly to him, just as he had been very
And General Feng was a Christian and I suppose that was an additional
reason with which Pastor Liu urged him to cooperate with General Feng.
Although Dr. Yen was offered the facility of telephoning, Dr.
Yen was right in not making use of it, for he would have been
listened in to at all the telephone posts. The final decision was that
the Cabinet would resign. It was not possible to reach the President.
I offered to visit the President but I was told that no one could
mind what I had told Dr. Yen a few days earlier, that I had noticed
had telephoned Dr. Yen that he would not be able to come because
take part, presumably urging Dr. Yen to carry on. I do not know
what passed between them but I knew that Dr. Yen had made up his
sible; and I myself left Peking the day after in a car belonging to
was useless for me to remain in Peking. The car was stopped many
the Peking Leader reported that Dr. Koo had escaped from Peking
but what appeared in print went very far and this unfounded
who was Emperor Hsuan T'ung's English teacher and later became
him that that report was unfounded. I also told him that the editor
of the very paper which published this report and from which he evidently
-at- that time I was in normal dress. Sir Reginald Johnston was very
good to me and wrote back, saying that he was sorry to have cited
that untrue report in his book and that he would certainly have
the time being. As a matter of fact, I did not get in touch with what
was going on in Peking after this coup d'etat. Looking back today,
I realize that this coup d'etat was only a certain move inspired
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went with me to Shanghai - some after me and some before me. We often
met informally through 1925 and kept ourselves in touch with the current
There was a bank of which Sun Tan-lin was the president, and we often
private life, politicians of all groups coming to and fro often contacted
me. In other words, despite my retirement, I was kept well informed of wbat
was going on. My main interest was to try to follow the work of the
The very title of the chief of the state - the Chief Executive - indicated
Yu-hsiang on the one side and Chang Tso-lin and Wu P^i-fu on the other.
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the upper hand, and Feng's troops were driven further and further away
from eastern Chihli and Tientsin to Nan-k'ou and into Suiyuan and Chahar,
Early in 1926, when the fighting between Feng's troops and the
Wen-kan, and Sun Tan-lin. The last named. Sun Tan-lin, had of course
his birthday on March 12. We were expected to stay in Hankow for a few
done to reorganize the government. The most favored idea was the
from the point of view of the Chihli Clique. Dr. Yen's Cabinet had
damage done to the Chihli Clique it was natural that Yen's Cabinet
Sun Ch'uan-fang, who was then in Nanking, did not attend Wu's
was Dr. Ting Wen-chiang, who was more a scholar than a politician and had
the confidence of Sun. Ting kept in touch with me, Lo Wen-kan, and
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with him. Marshal Sun was also very much interested in the political
as well as the military side. I suppose that he had his own personal
of the lower Yangtze Valley, a position which carried with it not only
touch with people like myself, Lo and T'ang, looking upon us as sort of
political friends. Although at that time there was already a good deal
was always curious to know what we thought of the situation and what
his birthday party would take place at the same time. We went. My
I found out how simply Marshal Wu lived and how devoted he was, not
only to the fighting in the North but also to the study of the political
but that was to be only temporary, adding that for this program he
Tso-lin, who was not too well disposed to Dr. Yen. But Marshal Wu
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thought he could carry this point with Marshal Chang, although the latter
to have some changes in the Yen Cabinet although the Cabinet as a body
was to be restored. After consultations with Dr. Yen and his other col
leagues in Peking, both he and they wanted me to replace Dr. Wang K'e-
min at the Ministry of Finance, and that Dr. Alfred Sze was to be appoin
ted Foreign Minister; pending his arrival Dr. Yen would act concurrently.
refusal that I never had studied much the financial problems of China,
been quite familiar with the problems. I said that all along I had been
dealing with foreign powers. He said China*s finances at the time were
that he was rather insistent on ray going over to the Finance Ministry,
he had been Chairman of the Board and President for many years;
Affairs. To this he said Wang could not carry out the duties of the
Finance Office in the way that it should be carried out and that he could
not enjoy the same confidence I would have with the government and the
again pleaded that China needed a Finance Minister who would depart frcm
Seeing his firm stand I said that I would like to think it over but
first because I wanted to size up the opinion both of the foreign community
and the Chinese in Shanghai for Shanghai was not only the center of
Chinese political opinion but a place where you could find a reflection
the restoration of the Yen Cabinet and so forth. I promised him to visit
Marshal Sun on my way back to Shanghai, which was a second reason why I
had to go to Shanghai; he said could I then make it short, stay one day
and come back, but I said it would take at least three or four days.
found out in Shanghai, and when I told him, he asked me to leave for Peking
directly because Dr. Yen and his colleagues were waiting anxiously for
I asked him to reconsider. I told him I would take the list to Peking
but I wanted him to understand tha t I would not accept the finance
talk it over with Dr. Yen who was equally anxious. Probably I had been
originally suggested by Dr. Yen himself because toward the last days of
our Cabinet in 1924 the relations between Dr. W. W. Yen and Wang K’e-min
became very strained, so strained that anybody could see it on the surface.
I arrived in Peking by train on May 6, 1926 about 7:00 p.m. and already
station except Dr. Yen, who they said was receiving callers and could not
come. I was taken directly to Dr. Yen's house and was told that he was
waiting anxiously for my arrival. When I got there it was nearly 7:45.
talked over the list. Chang Chih-tan was very prominent there. He was
not remember which clique he belonged to. The list clearly represented
promulgated, the Cabinet was unable to meetj X for one refused to take
up the finance portfolio, and besides, bhe cabinet list was not well
regarded by Marshal Chang Tso**lin. The main reason for the stillbirth
of the Yen Cabinet was understood to be the failure to secure the full
approval of the Marshal. I kept aloof because X did not want to take
Army and Cheng Ming-chih as the Minister of the Interior: they were
two important leaders in the Manchurian camp. But what Marshal Chang
Yen. So although the Yen Cabinet was restored, it did not function.
Peking was filled with political gossip that the Cabinet was viewed un
it. And neither the Minister of the Army or the Minister of the Interior,
their offices.
and they felt I enjoyed the same good name as Dr. Yen in the international
Peking and told me about it. He said he had spoken directly over the
did not want to have a man with too much the political color of the Man
churian camp just as Marshal Chang did not want to have one entirely
already. Then he left for Hankow and said he would come back in two days.
this Tientsin conference. But the communique was held up at the last
student who was very close with the Japanese returned students said
the communique had been held up because Shen Jen-yu had told Chang Chih-
of the Chihli clique - the Chihli clique was formed of the Paoting and
the Loyang groups - that the report might be true. At any rate the
communique was never issued. It was reported to me that they were trying
Meanwhile somebody in Tientsin, maybe Chang Chih-t’an who was left out
Yen*s Cabinet had been restored in May; meanwhile the conference had been
going on. Still the Cabinet was unable to meet, for although I took
came to ask me to take up the finance portfolio and said that when
Admiral Ts’ai, and since he. Admiral Tu, had been Minister of the Navy
Admiral Ts’ai, especially as Dr. Yen said that if there were any
I told him that from the beginning I had refused to be Finance Minister
because I felt I would not be equal to the task and I could not understand
why Mr, Wang K’e-min, who was Dr. Yen's Finance Minister should not continue,
although X knew that both Dr. Yen and Marshal Wu P’ei-fu seemed to feel
Mr. Wang K'e^in and ask him to take up the portfolio. Admiral Tu
said he also had heard that Mr. Wang was not entirely persona grata
with Dr. Yen and he would act on my suggestion. But he thought that even
Soon after he left, Mr. Wang K'e-min called on me. He said that he
had heard Admiral Tu had come to ask me to take up the finance portfolio
and I said that was true but I told him I suggested that he should
me was to warn me that the finance portfolio was not only the most
difficult but also the most dangerous. Then he counted something like
nine predecessors in the Finance Ministry who ended by either being shot
trouble? I said that was exactly how I felt, and said I had recommended
him. I said when Admiral Tu called on him to ask him to take it up,
please don’t decline. I perfectly agreed that I was not cut out for
finance, whereas he had been and he was. Oh no no, he said, he would not
take it up.
said. The Sino-Franco Industrial Bank was one in which the Chinese
Government had substantial holdings through the Bank of China and the
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Bank to be stationed in Paris with a very handsome stipend, and free from
go abroad but not in connection with any post, even a semi-official one.
In the same evening the Admiral came back, told me that he had called
on Wang K^-min and said despite much pleading Wang refused to take up
the post. So he had come back to me. He said he was new, he had never
fu and Marshal Chang; he said he knew they all liked me and bad confidence
Ministry was a ministry always suspected by all sides a&ar being unclean
and all that, and said that I would have no trouble of that kind. If I
everyone of them suggested what I should do. They perfectly knew that
I was a novice. Some of them I had known but not intimately. I remem
ber I made only one change, the K^-ts'ang ssu-chang, the man in actual
brought in my own man Kuo Tso-fan for the Treasury Section. He was at
one time closely associated with the banking world and also had some
myself.
The first thing they suggested to me was that I should call on Sir
surprised and asked why. He was a public functionary under the Ministry
of Finance, but they said he had all the power. In those days no public
secured on the surplus customs revenue, and all that required the
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nodding consent of the Director General. So I said, "Oh yes, I'd like
to see him." I said I would call him on the telephone. "No," they
said, "^ou should pay him a visit." "No," I said, "I know Sir
Within about two or three days, on my desk, there was a document for
me to sign, and the Public Debt Section Chief came for my signature. I
asked him what it was about and he said it was about an agreement for an
advance from the Bank of China to pay a certain bill. The amount was not
began to read it. I saw one article saying that the monthly rate of
interest was 1.5%, which would work out at 18% a year. "That is very
high," I said, and asked for the current market rate. It was 14%
sure the Government was being made to pay more than the market rate.
been done that way, and as a matter of fact my signature was just to
legalize the loan because the money had already been drawn. "Well,"
I said, "I want to be fair, and I shall change to the market rate, which
would work out to be something rather less than 15% a year." He said:
"Sir, it's best not to change it." But I said there is no reason why
I did not realize that this would be the cause of a great problem
banking world that here was a Finance Minister who would not listen
as he was told by the bank and that I had the nerve to impose a rate
of interest on them. When this man Chang, Chief of the Public Debt
Section and in the service of the Bank of China for many years, had
begged me not to do it, I thought it was not right for the Minister
by the bank. I did not realize that it would convey a most unfavorable
the necessary funds for paying the various services. Admiral Tu was
Through them I also contacted some other banks such as the Pao-shang
Bank, which was one of the important banks in North China though not
a national institution and which also had the right granted by the
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that were considered asrepresentati^M «&* the banking world. I
the amount of money which I asked them to lend to the Government was
two to three million dollars, which, according to the estimate, was the
five banks but also those of some other banks were invited to the
same party. After the dinner party we had a discussion, but there
was no result. The spokesmen of the banks were Wang K'o-min and Chang
Days passed by without any reply, and we were getting anxious as the
so that the whole banking group in Peking would understand why the loan
was required; it was only through such a procedure that the banks as a
loan. So it was arranged that the Bankers’ Union would hold a meeting
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Ministry this was very unusual. I agreed to address the proposed meeting
the part of the bankers, particularly Mr. Chang Chia-ao, who was the
head of the Bank of China and was recognized as the leader of the
Chinese banking world in Peking. I went to the meeting and explained the
reasons why the Government needed the funds. I said that the minimum
amount required would be two million and half dollars and this amount was
to be used to pay the various services, including the armed forces and the
Bankers' Union, whose name I do not remember now, said that they
would consult and convey to me their reply. Again, several days passed
there were thirteen, sent representatives to the ministry every day to ask
of Peking University, who asked that the funds for the University
Chang Chia-ao, was that the amount was more than they could take care
the Chin-ch'eng Bank, and the Ta-lu Bank were favorably disposed and
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would try to provide the Ministry with 500,000 dollars and that was the
best they could d:o. I began to feel that behind the reluctance of the
Chinese bankers to help the Ministry of Finance as they had always done
in the past there was really some political motive on their part. I felt
me to tide over the festival. "Passing the festival" was really "passing
the crisis"; even before my taking office, one of my friends had said the
headaches for any Minister of Finance, and it would be the better part
of my valour to avoid it. Now, my efforts to meet all the conditions of the
Banks, such as addressing the Bankers' Union had proved futile. The
Minister to be a tool of the Chinese banks; they had always been spoilt
as the need for government funds was a factor which the Chinese banks
I recalled the advice that I should not even take up the post of
Finance Minister after Admiral Tu had accepted the acting premiership; and
and Industry. But I was undaunted. Having taken up the post of Finance
what was available in the Treasury and the 500,000 dollars, was only
My recommendation to the Cabinet was that the Finance Ministry could not
pay 100% of the expenditure of the government, but sufficient funds would
be ready to pay 40% of the salary of the civil service of the government,
70% of the salary of the military and police forces, and 70% of the
able to make that report to the Cabinet because I had been successful in
Trade in Peking, of which the American director was Mr. L. Williams, son
and was very friendly to China; his children were brought up in China.
he said any time that suited me would suit him. So, I went immediately
to see him. It was about 3:00 in the afternoon. I told him that I went
there on an urgent mission. Mr. L. Williams said that he had read in the
newspapers in the last few days that the Chinese Finance Minister had
"Dr. Koo, I know that you have been pressed very hard," he added.
"Tell me how much you need to tide over the festival." I told him that
I needed 500,000 dollars. To ray surprise, he said, "Is that all you need?
not to pay the full quota of the expenses and salaries in view of the
depressed state of the national treasury; the government would pay 70%
of the salaries of the military and police forces and the staff and per
civil service and therefore, the borrowing of half a million dollars would
meet the situation. Then, I indicated that I wanted to know what would
He said, "Mr. Minister, we know that you are hard pressed, and we
know your responsibilities to meet the situation. So, don’t bother about
the terms until the so-called Mid-Autumn Festival is over; they would be
nothing that you might consider to be unreasonable; that you can be sure
of. Our purpose is to help you out. We have noticed in the newspapers
how difficult it has been for you to get some help from the Chinese
banks, and we think that you should be helped. Therefore, we had been
expecting ,your call. Now that you have come, we want to know would
"You could have more if you wanted to," he said, "but if you say that
He said, "No. If you don’t mind, I want to tell you that, while you
are Chinese Finance Minister, we are perfectly willing to lend and that
we are giving you this help not so much because you are the minister
as because you are Dr. Wellington Koo the person. We know that Dr.
hour is 4 o'clock. I suppose you have to remove the money from the
Legation Quarter."
we removed our funds from the Legation Quarter and in fact we have moved
need the money and will go back and call a Cabinet meeting and ask the
Treasury to give the checks and they might be presented at all hours
today."
"The money is ready and the bank will be kept open to pay the
checks that you might issue until the last penny is drawn."
did not feel sure that the $500,000 from the Chinese banks which was
those few days some of the reports in the newspapers must have been inspired
financier and economist himself but he too had served as Finance Minis ter
and probably he had had somewhat the same experience of pressure and
said he understood the Chinese banks were not helping me out and he
he went and saw Mr. Hussey, Inspector General of the Salt Gabelle, the
resort which was desired by Mr. Hussey and himself as to what could be
done to help the Chinese Finance Minister, (Hsiung Hsi-ling was not only
a former Finance Minister but also had all his early life studied the
Chinese fiscal system) Mr. Hussey told him there was a remittance he
was expecting from one of the branch offices of the Salt Gabelle for the
assured him there was this amount coming to the Government and he
I found myself on the eve of the festival with just enough to tide
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Then something happened. Before the Cabinet meeting set for the next
day, I went to tell Premier Tu of the arrangements I had made, and said
that we could pass the festival without trouble. He was happy. The same
afternoon, I went to him to report to him the situation after my talk with
Williams. Then X ordered Mr. Kuo Tso-fan, the Chief of the Treasury
festival without trouble and went to see Dr. Lo Wen-kan for a chat. He
and
had just gone out and Mrs. Lo came/while she and I were having a cup of
tea, a telephone message came. It was already toward the evening and
I said "What?" He said the house was surrounded by a band of troops with
armored cars, machine guns, the courtyard was filled with officers standing
when he came. The checks issued by the Chief of the Treasury Section were
not honored at the Bank of China and therefore they had come back and
wanted to see the Minister of Finance. I told him to send for Mr. Kuo
Tso-fan, the Treasury Chief. He said he had already come because as soon
I asked Mr. Kuo to come to the telephone and wanted to know what it was
all about. Hesaid the checkswere not honored by the Bank of China
because they said no contract had been signed for the advance and that
they could not pay until the contract had been signed. Mr. Kuo said such
a contract had never been signed before, that it was a matter of formality,
and usually, he said, it would be extended until after the festival; they
tell them to surrender the checks to the Bank of China and to give them
the officers got the new checks,surrendered the old checks, and left
completely satisfied, because all they wanted was to have the money. They
did not know anything about what game was being played by the banks.
However, only half of them came,since the rest were still at the Bank
soldiers. So I went back to Lo’s place, and telephoned again. Kuo said
there was trouble at the Bank of China. The officers had wanted to know
why the checks were not paid. When they were told there was no agreement
But the other half still tried to press on, and they wanted to see the
Director, who was Chang Chia-ao. The bank said that without instruction
from the Director, they could not pay; the Director had gone out and they
did not know where. Only on hearing that the checks had been exchanged^
did the soldiers leave. So had the Sino-American Bank not helped, it might
The next day a Cabinet meeting had been scheduled for me to report as
to how I had made the financial arrangements, and also the disbursements
submitted my report of the receipts and disbursements on the basis which had
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been approved by the premier, 40% for the civil servants, and 70% for the
educational institutions, and 70% for the military and police services.
able to provide the funds, even though the payment was not 100%.
Just then the Premier^ A.D.C. came to report that hundreds of officers
were forcing an entry and were coming into the State Department.
Admiral Tu, a military man^ himself^was very angry, and demanded to know
who told them to come. They wanted to see the Minister of Finance. I
said I would go and explain to them. The Government had done its best to
get the funds, and the military people and educational institutions were
given special treatment of 70% whereas the government civil servants were
paid only 40%. It was a question of fact. Many of the sources of govern
ment revenue had been fleeced by the military authorities not only in the
provinces but some even in Peking, such as the Ch,ung-wen«-men Tax Bureau.
So the Government could only get such funds as were directly controlled by the
them. The Premier said, "No. You must^t go, because itTs not fehe
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question of money but they want^4 make trouble for you. He said he
would talk to them. Then somebody said that would not be desirable either
because they might make a scene and would be very difficult for the
although they included some Manchurian units such as the Air Force.
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Chang Chih-t’an was also a A^irtherner and said he would go. He talked
to them for a long time and came back. They still insisted upon being
go, and try to calm them. He went, spent some time, and came back without
result. They wanted the remaining 3Q%. It was well after dinner time
but they still remained. Admiral Tu was furious at the show of indis
with accordingly. But the others said it was a political move designed to
whether the Ministry of Finance could give them something in the way of
a promise that when finances were easier the remaining 30% would be made
up. Opinion was very much divided. I said that so far as the Ministry of
Finance was concerned a loan could perhaps be floated on the balance of the
not like the idea. Admiral Tu was especially against appeasing the
and we decided that the 30% unpaid would be apid with the bonds as soon
as the bond issue was completed. Then Chang Chih-t’an again went out to
tell the body of military officers but apparently he did not obtain
ready acceptance. They said they wanted cash and not bond^paaad after a
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long whiTe^aftar resources of argument finally the military
All that time we were confined in the Cabinet room without food or
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drink and when they finally agreed to disperse after accepting this offer,
march out, Mr. Lo Wen-kan took hold of one of ray arms and Chang Chih-t'an
took hold of the other in order to protect me. Admiral Tu was in front
and I was immediately behind him. As we reached the main entrance we saw
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a line of automobiles there. Two officers came and said, "Mr. Fitr*^
here's a car." Admiral Tu turned around and said: "Go away2" he said.
He took me into his car and told the chauffeur to go to my home. Then two
of them at once jumped on the sideboard of the car, one on each side.
Admiral Tu had an A.D.C. who sat next to the chauffeur. Admiral Tu got
angry and shouted "Get out.' Get off.' Obey orders.'" "Obey whose orders,"
they retorted. "Orders from abovej" said the Admiral. He asked who they
were. They would not say.. These men were armed, with revolvers at their
all exceptone or two of the Cabinet followed. Quite a few of these military
It was daylight already, and I ordered ray servants to get some refresh
arrangement for the 30% balance had been accepted. They said they wanted
to have a guarantee that the bonds would be paid. They wanted to convert
the bonds into cash. While we were inside there were military people in
uniform taking notes of everything that we were saying, even the chatting.
When I went to wash my hands I was followed by two of them. They followed
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when I came back. They did not dare touch us, or raise their hands, but
they were watching us very closely. Dr. Lo, X think, said that we must
get the Director of the Bank of China, Mr. Chang Chia-ao. His bank,
being a government bank, could give an assurance that the loan bond could
be cashed, at least against the $500,000 which they promised but which
they did not pay. The servant telephoned and came back with the report
that Mr. Chang Chia-ao had already gone out - it was about seven o'clock
in the morning. I asked him to telephone again to ask where he had gone
and to say that we wanted to reach him. The message came back that he had
gone out riding, and was taking his morning exercise on horseback; he could
not be located.
Someone suggested that if the Director was not there, there was
always the Chairman of the Board of the Bank of China. It was Admiral
about eight o'clock Wang arrived and we told him all that had happened
and how the Bank of China had failed to carry out its part of the promise
agreed to advance the loan. The Bank of China was committed to at least
one quarter of that sum, and they had not paid it. Having been in poli
tical life for a long time, Wang was a friend of ours. What we wanted
him to do was to got out, since the military people did not believe the
cabinet, and give them his assurance that the bonds could be changed into
cash, in other words to promise that/the Bank would buy up these bonds.
It was around nine o'clock when Wang talked to them. After he gave them
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a personal guarantee s€ cashing 30% of the bonds, they agreed to leave.
Then, Wang came back to us and we expressed our appreciation for the
work he had just done. Finally, some of my colleagues left; Admiral Tu left;
Wang K^-min left; I went to bed, and some of the others went to bed.
Toward the evening a report came over the telephone that there were
the payment of those checks which the Finance Ministry had issued against
the 500,000 dollars, assurance of which had been given by the banks.
Apparently the local manager of the Bank of China would not pay because
he had been instructed by the president of that bank that the checks
could not be honored until the contract had been signed. He could not
pay without further instructions from the president, but Chang Kung-
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ch’uan^could not be located. Actually, the Ministry of Finance was play
ing fair; it was the banks that were making trouble. Those who wanted
to get their pay must have known that it was a practice between the
Finance Ministry and the banks that advances would always be made first
Chang Chia-ao could not be located, some military men who were waiting
"We'll tie you up!" The manager said that he was not responsible for all
this and that they should see the president. Then, recalling Wang K'o-min’s
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house Wang was just leaving. When they asked him to telephone to the
Bank of China and give it the order to honor the checks, Wang said,
"I am chairman of the board, and the actual administration of the bank was
in the hands of the president; so I could not give such an order directly."
But they said that, since the chairman of the board was in a higher
position than the president, Wang’s remarks simply indicated that he wanted
to get out of trouble. So they shouted at him, "Give the order!" They
also wanted him to go with them to the bank, but, instead of going with
them, he padded. Their checks must have ibecause the Austrian loan was
never issued.
all the trouble he had had was duetto ray handling of the financial situation.
He said that he knew all about that and that he wanted to congratulate
me because I did well, adding that those politicians, namely the bankers,
want to create trouble not only for me personally but for him and for
and was going to resign. I told him that I agreed to his proposal for the
whole cabinet to resign, but I begged him to put off for a week the
from Mr. Hussey, Associate Inspector of the Salt Gabelle, that there would
be funds coming within a week. It was surely reliable, and I wanted to have
the funds to pay off the debt owed to the Chinese American Bank. That
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Finance Ministry, my successor would not pay it off and would be too
glad to have this ready cash to solve his other problems. The best
thing was to wait for one week, I told him and he agreed with me.
So, for one week the Cabinet did not hold any meeting. When
Mr. Hussey reported to Mr. Kuo, who had been told by me to keep in touch
to
with Hussey, that the money was available, it was paid over/the Chinese
American Bank. Then the Cabinet had its final meeting, at which I sub
mine the report and approve it, for I noticed that one of the charges
charge of that kind could be levelled against me. I also said that, in
meeting was printed in the yearbook with Mr. Woodhead*s introductory note,
Williams, the American banker, was Mr. Shen, who was the Chinese
and used to come to see me. He told me that his bank was always
Union’s meetings, and could not join any financial discussion which
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the Chinese banks had with the Chinese government. In a word, he
said, 4-1—fe he was outside the banking circle. One day Mr. Shen and
want to thank you." I said, "Why?" He said, "Do you know that this
jaxrt you don’t have to thank me because I just have done what
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Mr. Williams about the terms, he would say only that he wanted to
help me put.
government was even in its own capital. The Government was actually
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dominated by the military elements; it was harassed by the educational
and correct way. Otherwise the country would fall into chaos. For
a
the sake of China as a nation,/member_ of the international community
been shorn. Even though there were military warlords backing the
government they did not exercise their power where it was a matter
Indignant over the way his Cabinet had been treated by the banks
Tu was more or less neutral, but perhaps leaned a bit to the side of
Wu P'ei-fu. P'an Fu [?] was recommended for the Finance post by the
Mukden party, and was thus given the post. (P'an and Chang Tso-lin were
Some rather thorny questions were arising, such as the foreign powers'
the revolutionary troops in October. The whole Wuhan area was taken
process.
was intent on filling by himself. By the end of the year, he moved his
troops into Chihli Province along the Great Wall. At the same time,
the Third and Fourth Armies, under Chang Hsueh-liang and Kuo Sung-ling,
The Cabinet, or at least its civilian members, were not kept fully
I suppose that our strength was that, being separate from the
camps could make use of civilians like T'ang, Dr. Wang, Dr. Lo, Dr. Yen
not directly involved in the political struggle and still less involved
in the military struggle for the control of the nation. The northern
were simply individuals working for a common end, the welfare of China.
We did not quite succeed, for it was impossible to restrain the military
with the rival Kuomintang. There the civilian elements were working
closely with the military elements, and were part and parcel of the
same movement.
North China. Because North China was coming under his influence, it
aspects of the same, and changes in the military situation were usually
So a new Cabinet, was formed on January 12, 1927. Like its two
were replaced by men loyal to Marshal Chang. P'an Fu, whose continuance
P'an was a great friend of the Marshal, and the latter urged me to make
this appointment. (The importance of the post lies in the fact that the
Minister of Finance, but Marshals Wu and Chang could not agree on anyone
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else. Despite the poverty of the treasury, each wanted to have one of
his own men in the post. The important posts of War and Navy did not
controlled the police. For peace and order, and also for information,
titular head is absent the man next to him would be tai-che tai-hsing,
namely, acting in the absence of his chief. The next higher designation
would be tai-li , which I had just been. This means to act as a temporary
implies that the person is sole office holder and has full rank. This
term is often used when a young man replaces an older man, so as to imply,
that the younger man will really be able to "fill the boots" of his
senior. Typically, one has shu-li status for three months, and then the
the Cabinet, exercised the power of the presidency, I could have appointed
myself wei (to be) the shih-shou Premier in January. But I preferred
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When the mandate was published I had a discussion with Mr. Liang Shih-i,
who had played an important role in the politics of North China from
the time of Yuan Shih-k'ai to 1926. He came to see me and told me that
as full Premier and not shu-li . I told him that I knew the difference
between wei and shu-li , and had purposely avoided the former because I
reputation.
During the period there were two episodes involving our relations with
military activity between the Couth and the North. The Nortern Expedition
had been temporarily halted , north of the Yangtse, but it was expected
that the expedition would be resumed, and the Young Marshal as Commander-
in-Chief of the joint party of the Third and Fourth Army Corps was stationed
Politically, Marshal Chang Tso-lin and his admirers were trying to strengthen
who were out of sympathy with the South. The pei-yang group which had
vconsist3d early in 1926 of the pao-ting and lo-yang camps and some other
advisers. Finally he moved his headquarters into Peking, into the Palace
of Prince ^h'ing, though he did not live there himself. He came only on
short visits »nd went back to Tientsin where his official residence was
Knowing all this X was prepared and wanted to relieve myself of any
the (Government was to ensure that the affairs of State would be handled
1926. It turned out that the Manchurian political camp finally decided
to do away with the Constitution, and start with what they called a
government with Marshal Chang Tso-lin at the head with the title of
understood then that all those problems had been discussed by the Marshal
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with his political advisers among whom were Mr. P'an Fu, Mr. Liang Shih-i,
Mr. Cheng Ch'ien and General Yang Ytl-hing, who was particularly close to
him. They came to the conclusion that the best solution to the situation
was to start with a clean slate and establish a military government, with
handicaps.
When I was informed of this plan and was asked to remain in the
negative answer. The only thing I had in mind was that he should
Chang's actions,but I made it clear that I did not wish to accept any
So two days before the Marshal was to establish his new government
(June 18), I called a Cabinet meeting and the formal decision for us all
to resign was taken, and the inauguration went off with no difficulties
arising.
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Seeing that in the earlier regimes there had been friction between
the President and the Parliament, and incessant intrigues on the part of
the Parliamentarians to dominate the Government, and seeing that the power
was not unnatural that Marshal Chang Tso-lin's group decided finally not
a nation-wide election in China at that time and it would have been equally
impossible to call back the old Parliament that had been elected in 1913.
Both the military leaders and popular opinion had grown tired of that
had been sent home, each with passage money paid for.
rest, and most of my colleagues also had left Peking, By that time
plan Fu's Cabinet was organized on June 20th. X recall that on June 19,
the day after the Marshal was inaugurated, General Wu Chun-shen, then
He and I had known each other for some years. Whenever he came to Peking
to the Western Hills was to convey a message on behalf of the new chief-
the Marshal wanted to seek my advice and ask me to help him in the new
and first of all he would like to have a talk with me. I said that
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him, but that I would not want to accept an official appointment from
him, because X had been in political life for so many years and really
wanted to have a rest, and stay in the Western Hills; I was not very far
from the capital and could very easily go into Peking. General Wu said
Marshal Chang wanted me to live in Peking rather than stay in the Western
simply a polite gesture because I knew perfectly well that Mr. P'an-fu
had always wanted to be Premier, and he had been a very close adviser
great courtesy and insisted that I should help him in any capacity that
to decline. When X took leave he said that he would keep in close touch
Shortly after I went back to my house Mr. P*an Fu, who was already
from me that X did not wish to accept any political responsibility and
he therefore chose this high post for me since the Department of Audit
any important political questions and that this post had always been
Fu very well, I could speak even more frankly than to Marshal Chang
Tso-lin. I told him that I had made up my mind to take a rest, and for
that reason alone I really did not wish to assume any position in the
asked him to explain to the Marshal discreetly but firmly that while
insist upon this desire. Mr. P'an Fu went into a long statement of
how the Marshal had always counted me as one of his friends and now
do his best for the country, and that it would be difficult for him
might meet the wishes of the Generalissimo. The solution was to recom
post. Dr. Lo Wen-kan, I said, had been a personal and political friend
of mine for many years, and appointing him to the post of President of
the Audit Department would be very much the same as if I took up the
post myself. Pan Fu gave two reasons for not agreeing to my suggestion.
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the new regime, and secondly. Dr. Lo might not accept. I said the
first point had already been discussed not only with him but also
with the Marshal, and as for the second point, Mr. P^n Fu might visit
Dr. Lo and make the offer to him if the Marshal agreed. "Well," he
said,"First get Dr. Lo's consent and then I shall go and visit him."
Whereupon I said that I would suggest that he do the other way around:
first call on Dr. Lo and if Dr. Lo should hesitate and decline to accept
The compromise was that I would telephone Dr. Lo first, informing him
of Mr. Pan Fu^ forthcoming visit, without telling him what P'an^ visit
was for, so that there would be no question about P'an^ being able to
talk personally with Lo. So I telephoned Dr. Lo, telling him that P'an
would come to see him, and Lo asked me what P'an's visit was for. Lo
that solved the personal question between the Marshal and myself.
with the new regime. On two or three occasions Marshal Chang Tso-lin had
not a surprise to me. In the first place, he knew something about the
at the time of the Washington Conference, he was one of those who had
In the third place, I well recall that in 1926, the year before, after
the defeat of General Feng YU-hsiang by the allied forces of Loyang and
between the two camps in Tientsin, it was agreed to have me as the Premier
(We found out through Sun Jen-ytl [?]that it had been argued that if I headed
the Cabinet, China might have more difficulty in her relations with Japan
me.
During this period, there were two main questions in Peking so far
as an outsider's observation was concerned. One was the slow but steady
advance of the Northern Expedition from the south, which led to the
gradual retreat of the Third and Fourth Joint Army Corps from their
position in Honan back to the north. On the eastern front there were
Nanking and then his sudden retreat. It was generally understood that
the Kuomintang forces, which were pushing forward. For one thing, popular
sentiment was on the side of the South. For another thing, the expedition
ary force seemed to have a new ele«|:aent ch had not existed in China
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officers ahead of the troops to prepare the people for accepting the
Kuomintang troops; also, the political arm was able to organize the people
they had not paid much attention to the political aspect. In other
words, the so-called warlords had their personal ambition, and their
was generally taken for granted that the Manchurian forces would not
control of Peking.
The other question was China's relations with Japan. The Manchurian
clan was always understood to have attached great importance to the rela
tions between China and Japan and those between Japan and Manchuria. It
was generally understood that the Manchurian leaders knew how to handle
northward Japan watched the situation in China with great interest. The
north China. That incident did hold up Kuomintang's northward push for
quite a while.
Tso-lin. The most important claim made on the Marshal was in regard
the one which had just been mentioned. The representatives of the
South Manchurian Railway had been hurrying back and forth between
Ch'ang Yin-huai; they had been seeking to have conversations with him
learned that he was in Tientsin and came there he would suddenly depart
for Peking, and when they went to Peking to locate him he would quietly
slip away to Tientsin. Once it was said that the Japanese learned that
he was going to have a dinner party in one of the amusement houses and
they found him there, but he said that that was not the place to talk
about business and made an appointment for them to see him in his
ministry. When they went to his ministry the next morning he did
not appear. Knowing what the Japanese wanted to get from him, he deli
Finally the matter was taken up by the Japanese minister, who asked
lines running north to south. The Marshal firmly refused it. Thereupon,
advisers and it was repeated by others who were in his close confidence.
When Mr. Yoshizawa left it was already three o^lock. The Marshal gave
of the steady advance of the Northern Expedition made him want to retire
to Manchuria. That was the evening of June 2. His special train passed
a special car and the Marshal had another special car. When the train
few miles from Mukden — a bomb went off and there was an explosion.
to join him was hit and both were killed. That was June 4, 1928. It
was unknown then where the Young Marshal was. As a matter of fact he
was at the headquarters of the Joint Third and Fourth Army in Nan-ch’iao,
east of Tientsin, where the coal-mine was. The news of the death was kept
secret for several days until Young Marshal was able to reach Mukden disguised
as one of the common soldiers in an open car. It was only after his arrival
that the death of Chang Tso-lin was announced and fundrai'arrangements were
published.
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F 4a. Sir Francis Aglen, Chang Chia»ao, and the Peking Government
The Cabinet wanted Sir Francis Aglen to come back as soon as possible
of the Cabinet and that no answer was received. Day after day passed
without getting a reply. I and the whole Cabinet was annoyed. Finally
to find out what the cause was for the failure to reply. Then he got
the reply. Sir Francis did not answer Admiral Ts,ai*s official
personal telegram saying that he could not leave England soon and
that in any case when he was ready to come back to China his plan
Ts'ai indicated that he had been kept informed by the Chinese Banks
these reports indicated that there was very little chance of getting
Sir Francis Aglen, had conveyed his own objection and suggested that
the latter should not come back. We got this information from the
bank itself: the Loan Section Chief of the Ministry of Finance was
a long-time friend of the Bank.of China, and there were several others
in the Ministry of Finance who had been connected with the Bank of
other
China, or one/of the four great banks.
This was in the autumn of 1926 until about Christmas time, when
on the Peking government. The New Year!s Festival was another very
critical period for the Government, which was very anxious that Sir
arrived about the same time as Sir Miles Lampson. We felt that he was
flirting with the southern group, a thing he should not have done
indemnity in order to tide over the Chinese New Year*s Festival. The
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usual way to underwrite the loan issue was to speak to the repre I
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sentatives of the Chinese banks. I remember X invited Mr. Chang N
Francis Aglen refused to give his consent for a reason which was
situation of China at the time, with the country split up into two,
know what was at the back of his mind but, bearing in mind his
and Hankow against the instructions of the government, the cabinet was
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indignant and decided to dismiss him. We reminded Admiral Ts'ai that
he was the immediate superior of Sir Francis Aglen, who was supposed
Admiral opposed the Government's plan and pointed out the embarrassments
practice. I was not impressed by his argument and the whole Cabinet
was with me in saying a public servant's first duty was to obey the
his position was a special one and had no right to put himself in
Chinese banks, came to see me. I received them and asked them what
was the object of their early call. Mr. Chang Chia-ao, who was the
meet the situation; and if the Government was not prepared to cope
the Chinese banking world that it would be better for the Government
to step down and give its blessing to others who could cope with the
situation and would know what effective action should be taken imme
diately.
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Although it had been expected that the Chinese banking world would
far as to threaten the government in the way that Mr. Chang Chia-ao
which might arise. The GovernmentIs act was fair and legitimate,
have felt concerned, but it was not the bankers* business to threaten
be
the Government if and when the Government should itself/unable to
cope with the situation and that the Government would certainly know
what policy to adopt. I also told Mr. Chang that he had used words
which could not be justified and that it was certainly not up to the
on to say that the Chinese loan market had been in a state of anxiety;
should develop into something very serious. I told him the Government
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and respected the action of the Government as they should, there was
ment, I did not consider this particular action on the part of the
appointing and removing higher officials. Mr. Chang said I must have
known that the Chinese government loans were based on the guarantee
given by Sir Francis Aglen; his certain removal from office naturally
replied that the government loans were based not upon Sir Francis
Aglen*s word but upon the surplus revenue «« on which the loans
were secured •••• and that the government loan was not a personal matter
had said at the beginning that the Government was fully aware of the
him unconvinced. Finally, I said that the banks should know that they
So I left them
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and of the relation between the Banks and Sir Francis. The flotation
possible only when the condition insisted upon by the Chinese Banks
was accepted by the Chinese Government. This condition was that any
signature in black and white. Thus, he was made responsible for what
he had signed and would see to it that the surplus customs revenue
was earmarked for the loan purpose. This had been a practice
insisted upon by the Chinese Banks; every time the Government proposed
to issue a new government loan the Chinese Banks took refuge behind
of the bonds to their clients, and in this way they made their
the Chinese Banks had become such that the Inspector General
Chang Chia-ao was the connecting link between Sir Francis and the
and his colleagues at my house was for the purpose of receiving the
Office on the second floor, because I was told that the seven of
Oudendyk of Holland and the Italian Minister. They had seen the
I greeted them and asked them to sit down, and as they remained hesi
that he should speak but Mr. MacMurray said that he would like
to have Sir Miles speak on behalf of them. Sir Miles said they came
to ask the Minister of Foreign Affairs what was the reason of this
colleagues wanted to know the reason for this unexpected and unusual
was well known to me and did^not see why I asked such a question. I
in China then I could not answer the question because it was about
on the customs revenue, and added that there were a great many of
them, and that there were also a number of loans floated for the
I said "Since you speak on behalf of British banks I can see why
you were anxious. The reason is very simple, to say it in one word,
word, I was sure he thoroughly understood it. I said his own government
was one- -of•the -boat government^ for its good administration, ' and
the word was understood in every language by those who are respon
why the government had dismissed Sir Francis Aglen. I had already
meeting but it was also evident to me that they had no good reason
Sir Miles that the action taken by the government in dismissing Sir
Francis Aglen would in no way affect the safety of the loans which
had been secured on the customs revenue. I left them first, and they
left afterwards.
Customs for many years and was known to be in close touch all the time
with the British Legation. Sir Miles had a weapon in his hands with
superior authority over the Customs, was sent for by me and told to
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Edwardes was personally willing but intimated that without the British
Ministers approval, he did not dare take it up; and Sir Miles had
made it very clear to him that he should not take it up. Admiral
that he was merely to act during the interval, and that if he was
unwilling to stay, we would look for the proper man to succeed Sir
view of his links with the British Legation even though he was a
British.
When Admiral TsIai insisted that the action taken by the Govern
ment was a serious one which might lead to grave consequences so long
The reason he gave was that his removal not only created a serious
British minister and the Chinese banking world. In other words he was
very unhappy but he did not know what to do himself. He did not think
that he could cope with the situation unless the Government could
find some way out of it. I thought this was too weak. Instead of
seeing the action of the Government in its proper light he could not
I mean with regard to the Chinese banking world and the customs and Sir
Francis Aglen. In the long run, it was a situation which should not
and he suggested asking Dr. Wang Ch*ung-hui, the then president of the
Ta~li Yuan (The Chief Justice) to find out from the British
Legation whether the refusal onthe part of Sir Miles Lampson to allow
strategical move to put pressure on the Government. Dr. Wang was told
originally he had been recommended by the British Minds ter and because
Sir Francis was Sir F, W, Maze. Maze was the man in the whole customs
was generally known that Maze and the British Legation were not on
Legation.
The first conversation of Dr. Wang with Sir Miles did not bring
much result, but it made clear one point: Maze would not be
would rather have Edwardes. But his hope remained that somehow the
to Dr. Wang, who thoroughly agreed with me, that this could never be
done. So Dr. Wang told Sir Miles that Sir Francis1 restoration to his
which to the British Legation and the bondholders gave a less unfa
vorable impression abroad. Dr. Wang said he was quite willing to listen
obstruction from the British Legation. When several days had gone
by. Sir Miles was informed that if he had any suggestion which the
remain vacant too long and Edwardes would be told to take up that
that the British Government did not share the same view as Sir
Miles Lampson, who had ..been arguing with the Chinese Government
report gave me the impression that the British Government had seen
appointment. Finally Sir Miles agreed that Mr. Edwardes could assume
the new post, but he suggested that the effect of Sir Francis Aglen*s
as Inspector General on leave for one year. This was the formula
which Dr. Wang and Sir Miles had recommended to the Government, which
of this formula and with Edwardes taking up office, the episode was
finally concluded.
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and took the final decision with full knowledge of its significance
action in removing Sir Francis Aglen was one that any foreign govern
ment would have done if any of its officials, no matter how high
I was Chinese Ambassador In London during the war time. Sir Francis
namely, the Chinese Government would agree to his suggestion that the
felt embarrassed by the matter, which happened twenty years ago, and
Finance in Chungking. I think this was in 1945. The reply was negative.
and submissive than Sir Francis Aglen. Edwardes was a much younger
man; he liked to associate with the Chinese while Sir Francis Aglen
used to keep himself alone and was always conscious of the importance
of his position not on its own account but because of the fawning
Chang Chia-ao had to deal with the Government on behalf of the Banks,
Sir Francis Aglen stood behind him. So there was a sort of unholy
very long without calling upon the Chinese banks for financial
a
The fluidity of the political situation was/further source of
the power of the two men. One Cabinet followed another like the move
only constant factors in the picture were on one hand Sir Francis
and downs of the government and on the other side Chang Chia-ao,
who, as head of the Bank of China, had the other banks following him
leaders secretly, and he directed Pei Tsu-i, who was then manager
Ching-wei and other Kuomintang leaders. Thus, Pei got many credits.
came into the Chinese banking world. Of course, his practice was
T'ang Tan«ya (head of the Ta-lu Bank) of the four other principal
given him financial support. Chang Chia-ao did too, but sometimes
he overplayed his hand; so while he was able, he was not popular; also,
did not hesitate to make use of his financial power to the utmost.
the Chinese Banks at.a critical time he also resented their high
handed attitude: even to this day the Generalissimo still has the
That was the reason why he later founded his own banks such as the
Nung-min Bank (the Farmer^ Bank) and the United Office of the
the banking world and to control the Banks. As we know, the company
law in China was never up to date and in this period of transition the
managers of the abnks used to act as if they were the owners of the
campaigns but also the art of buying over military leaders without
he has been of the opinion that money is useful only when it is used, and
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was, of course, kept strictly secret. I don^ know exactly the amount
of money the Generalissimo paid in this case because this had never
been positively told. Probably the amount was 15,000,000 dollars, which
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and 1928, With a gap of about a year and a half, namely 1925
of ray own. There were three or four others who served as Foreign
but they remained as the head of the Foreign Office each time
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explained that his mission was regarded as very important by his country
recalled that the Soviet Government back in 1919 and 1920 had on its
had concluded with China and proposed to negotiate new treaties on the
thought that the Chinese government could cooperate with Soviet Russia
personal one as I explained to him, was that China's first aim was
Peace Conference in Paris. China was to pursue that policy. I told him
second interview with Mr. Joffe was one of great importance because
of the revelation of the real Soviet stand which he made after hearing
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a statement of reply from me. I told him the Government had considered
in the hope and expectation that the foreign powers concerned would
the foreign powers made it clear that they would not agree to a
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revision of the treaties by negotiation or would obstruct the achieve
the intentions of the western powers and remarked that China would
Soviet Russia he would go now to the south and would discuss the
same proposition with Dr. Sun Yat-sen. He knew that Dr. Sun’s
Government, and he hoped that Dr. Sun would understand his mission
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better. I felt that this was more or less a threat on his part
when he said that he felt certain that Dr. Sun Yat-sen and the party
following day and met Dr. Sun Yat-sen in Shanghai. There was no
amounted to an alliance for Dr. Sun to carry out his second or third
reached between Joffe and Dr. Sun Yat=sen, formed a basis for
and from the Federal Wireless Corporation of the United States for
The matter had originated even before I assumed the post of Foreign
from the Japanese group had been sent to the Ministry of the Navy.
Within the Chinese Government the ministers of these two ministries were
each advocating the thesis that the wireless station should belong to
his particular ministry. This lad been going on for some time. I
myself felt that, since the wireless station was to be operated as the
kept on calling on me, urging an early reply. More than once the
minister had called on the Foreign Office and vice versa. I was
sympathetic to the application of the Federal Wireless Corporation
because the proposed wireless station would come under the control
communication not only in the Far East but with abroad. Because
in abeyance.
see him, but I was not only surprised but upset when he intimated
that his company was willing to help the Chinese Government by making
So I said to him that was not the way by which he should have tried
purpose. Then I left, bidding him good-bye. I can't remember his name,
minister called and I told him what had happened and suggested to him
that, if the United States Government really felt that it was interested
was not the right man for the purpose, and his continued pressence
had been known to Dr, Schurman from the very beginning. Dr. Schurman
American company from Peking and get that company to send another man.
arising from Dr. Lo Wen-kan's arrest made it necessary for Dr. Wang's
don't know the final outcome of this matter. Possibly the wireless station
^ arose from the fact that, as a result of World War I, the currencies
question arose with Belgian and Italian currencies, which had likewise
foreign powers, by each in its own currency. The French currency and the
the Protocol "Gold Franc" was used. The question was whether
"Gold Franc" was intended to mean the French currency, which was based
Foreign Minister and was under study by the Foreign Ministry. When
of the Protocol, its provisions and the history of the case, I was
convinced that the French claim was not justified - the French
Legation's demand for the payment in Gold Franc in its metallic sense
the French government. The French minister had been pressing for a
reply: Dr. C. T. Wang must have sent the reply shortly after he took
office and must have drafted that reply on the basis of my memorandum.
General Huang Fu was appointed in early 1923. It was reported at the time
he sent another reply to the French protest against the rejection of the
fact the first official act that General Huang Fu performed after assuming
reply, he consulted Wang K'o-ming, and that his action was based on
Wang K'o-ming’s advice. It was said that Wang K'o-ming had a large
not clear about the personal interest which Wang K'o-ming had or did not
have but actually it was widely believed in some circles that China
should accept the French claim because many thought it was well founded.
Such was the general sentiment in the Chinese banking world and even
the Chinese banking world. Of course the French had a weapon. They
surplus revenue, which in this case might be cut down according to the
But even before X studied the Gold Franc Question and came to
government, General Huang got himself into trouble with Parliament. For
that time it was known that Mr. Wu Ching-lien was promised two portfolios
there was friction arising between the Cabinet and Parliament. Even
I had a copy of the memorandum. I told him that I did not have a
copy and that, in any case, as the Speaker of the House, he could
easily get it from the Foreign Office. So he went there and got a
copy. This copy was evidently used as a weapon with which Wu Ching-lien
the subject. Itwwas very likely that he did seek the advice of Mr.
Wang K’o-ming and Mr. Liu En-yuan, the Finance Minister Very shortly
Huang resigned.
1923, and on that date I was appointed to succeed him as Foreign Minister.
office on July 3rd 1923, General Chang Shao-tseng had left for Tientsin
and the Cabinet was left without a head. As I have said already, my
Tuan’s government, accepted the French claim and even agreed to some
taken by the Chinese Government at the time when I was Foreign Minister.
Nominally the settlement was brought about by using the exchange rate
in the payment not only of capital but also of interest. As the War
For one thing, the series of loans negotiated on the eve of the
armistice of the World War had been one of the causes of popular
with Japan and China's foreign policy in general because it was one
since the Cabinet suspended the question without passing it. I have
already described how I was the sole dissenting voice in the Cabinet,
which tried to approve the measure one weekend when I was thought to be
away from the capital. Since this episode was intimately connected
with the attempt to raise funds for Genetal Ts'ao K'un's election to the
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Li Yuan-hung's departure for Tientsin, and during the time of the Regency
was one incident which at that time created a great deal of sensation
credentials. In his first meeting with the Foreign Minister, the new
minister would leave a copy of his credentials with the Foreign Minister
so that the Foreign Minister could learn exactly what was said in the
credentials and how to prepare a speech for the chief of state to pronounce
inquired about it, it was informed that the Foreign Minister did not
know that Mr. Yoshizawa had arrived and in what capacity. The
was informed that it was usual that he should make his first visit to
credentials and asking for a date for the presentation of the original
could not present his credentials and therefore there was no purpose in
making the call for setting a date. I was rather surprised that he should
the Foreign Office could not recognize him in any capacity. We did not
Foreign Office was not going to conduct business with him; he had a
colleagues and, when this news came out, they knew that he had not been
In itself the question was not important but it did have its signi
the Vice President, the Cabinet was empowered to exercise the powers
to the Chief Executive, since two other ministers, the new ministers
Being the ranking minister of the Cabinet, I had stood in the center
should first of all make a call and then leave a copy of his credentials
so that the Chinese Foreign Minister, and through him the Chinese
told me that the Japanese minister had called on them and said that I was
Chinese government but could not see its way to the presentation of creden
Mr. Kao Ling-wei, said they had a way of compromise. They would consult
with the Minister of War, General Lu Chin, and would give dinner party to
which they would invite me and introduce the Japanese minister to me per
sonally. I was shocked. They told me that in the situation it was the
best way out, since neither side would give in, and Wu Yu-ling said
was a sort of leader, being secretary to General Ts'ao K'un, and who
I was half annoyed and half amused. I told them that they
between Mr. Yoshizawa and me. The stand I took was entirely in the
of which they were all a part. Mr. Yoshizawa should have called on
come, that meant that in his eyes, there was no Chinese government.
and the Japanese minister. Certainly they were not called upon to
I told them: "You leave him alone! Leave him to the Foreign Office to
manage!" The dinner did take place but I did not attend it. Finally
who was Mr. Shih Lil-pen that he would make a visit and leave a copy,
not be presented to the regency cabinet but only to the regularly elected
I said he could call and leave a copy of the credentials. As for the
date of the presentation, I said, that was a matter for the Chinese
and about my health. The last time when he was sent to Formosa in 1954
The President said I was in Washington and Mr. Yoshizawa surprised the
good health, because he and I are the same age." The Generalissimo
was surprised, and asked how old he was. He was already in his
are of the same age," and added that he certainly did not know that
very punctilious and exact in everything he did, not only with regard
was on the side of the Foreign Office - but in his whole diplomatic
meeting because he would pull out his instructions and would read
them word by word in Japanese, very slowly, and would often stop
in the middle and start from the beginning. And the secretary would
usually an interview with him would last much longer than it ordinarily
would. Being a Japanese born and brought upo in the northern part of
Japan in the mountains, he was of robust health but very slow in
speech and action. It was known in Peking among the foreign community
including the diplomatic corps there that he was very fond of playing
golf. There were two courses in Peking, nine holes each, one in the
Pei-po Mountain and another outside the Hsi-chih Gate. But whenever
anyone found Mr. Yoshizawa playing golf, they would pack up and go
home. They had all had the same experience. When he was ahead and they
waiting for him to go through, he would go round the ball, look at it,
and pull out a pamphlet on golf to find out what he should do when the
ball lay at such and such an angle. He would go round again and study
the ball, and then make a stroke. It was hopeless. Such was his
Tsinan, and Tientsin aftd to Peking early in the morning of May 6, 1923.
bandit force was far more numerous than either the railway police or
train was derailed since the bandits had first removed the screws of
one of the rails. On the train were a large number of foreign passengers
well as foreign community in China. The Diplomatic Body met several times
and sent a joint protest to the Waichiaopu. Of course, this was an extra
well as Chinese passengers were involved and since the incident concerned
the first measure taken by the Government was to set up a joint commission
this joint commission was also to locate the place trhere the captives
naturally had a special responsibility to try his best to bring about the
his efforts.
parts of China missions of relief were sent to aid the captives as soon
Government the Diplomatic Body sent another joint note formulating the
conditions for settlement, claims for redress, and guarantees against the
joint note referred to the Protocol of 1901, which was a sequel of the
ponsible for the incident. Furthermore among the conditions for the
the railway police with foreign personnel and the depriving from the
foreign captives as well as for the one who lost his life, although less
comprehensive than similar claims arising from the Boxer incident, appeared
measure of redress, but I made the point that nothing should be done
governor of the province and the high military authorities in the region,
the Government itself had already taken steps to dismiss the head of the
railway police and to remove the local garrison commander and to call
upon the Governor to do his best to effect the release of the captives.
that the Ministry of Communications had already undertaken for some time
well as for the Chinese captives, it was ready to provide some relief to
pay the expenses incurred and the damages or losses actually suffered.
On one point, namely the amount demanded for the daily expenses of the
foreign captives, the joint note said that $150 should be paid for each
day in captivity, but after a certain date if they were not released then
the amount would be increased to $250 a day per person. This was a
out that any delay in their release would be caused by the necessity
affecting the life and safety of the captives; plainly, the necessary
position was that this incident, deplorable as it was, had not been
because it was the first time that the whole diplomatic corps joined
of this incident, was to show that it did not in any way resemble the anti
released in October. The conditions under which the release was accepted
were not reported to the Government at the time. It was mainly the
imposed by the chief of the bandits was that he and his followers
should be taken into the array of Shantung Province. This was an unusual
feature of the agreement reached with the bandits but I suppose at the
later that in less than two months the chief of the bandits who was
found itself faced with a very serious situation. It was most unfortunate
that the incident took place. It was not only sincerely deplored in China
foreign visitors to China, the incident was settled in the way I have
described.
Negotiations with Soviet Russia, 1923-1924: C. T. Wang Signs the Draft
Agreement, March 1924
Soviet Russia. This was an objective which was very much desired by
Moscow. The Soviet representative was Mr. Karakhan, who came to China as
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a special envoy. Soviet Russia had previously sent Mr. Joffe to the
Far East; his mission to Peking has been described in one of the previous
interviews. He had been sent to the Far East as a special envoy not
which had followed the Japanese claim that hundreds of Japanese nationals
had been to work out with China a plan of what he called co-operation
between the two countries. His mission did not achieve the purpose which
long period. Thus his mission in Peking failed, just as his mission in
Foreign Affairs in Moscow had issued two declarations in 1919 and 1920
directed to China which announced a very liberal policy and denounced all
His name was therefore not unknown to the Chinese public. When he
arrived in China he was given a very warm reception at Harbin by the Chinese
Railway. Soviet Russia was then troubled by the activities of the White
manager who had been in China for many years and knew the Chinese people
and the Chinese situation, but who was not trusted by Soviet Russia. It
Tso-lin with a view to removing this White Russian and replacing him
The faculty and student body of Peking University, which was then known
matic relations with Soviet Russia. Now/China, had already been much
entity from the Chinese Republic. There had been an attempt to destroy
position in that part of China, More than 1,000 Chinese merchants and
workers had been deported from Outer Mongolia, and the Chire se
Commissioner and the garrison which he brought with him had been also
expelled. Such measures had caused great dissatisfaction not only in the
Chinese Government but on the part of the Chinese people. There were
consequently two reasons for the Chinese Government not to open the
view the deadlock on Outer Mongolia could have been cleared up by some
sovereignty over Outer Mongolia and disclaiming the measures which had
Russia's friendly relation to China and even declaring that China, with
treaties which were then still in force between China and the other
this great citadel of Chinese learning was Ts'ai Yuan-p'ei who was then
and the setting up of the first Cabinet under him that the Government
tiary of Soviet Russia. On March 26, 1926 when General Huaqgwas foreign
minister Dr. Wang had been made head of the Russo-Chinese Negotiations
Commission. Dr. Wang was recommended by Mr. Sun Pao-ch'i, the Prime
been foreign minister himself ten years before, and I had been his
counselor in the Ministry. Dr. Yen had also been foreign minister several
times before me, and now had the status of a sort of elder statesman.
This was the background of Dr. Wang's appointment, which was notified to
Mr. Karakhan by Dr. Wang himself in pursuance of the decision of the Foreign
tiaries and not through the Waichiaopu: Mr. Karakhan's position being
credentials were drawn up I took special care to see that they were properly
worded. It was made clear in these credentials that Dr. Wang had the
the Government.
also knew Dr. Wang and was well liked by him. Most of Dr. Wang's
staff were picked by himself and were not of the regular diplomatic
were few regular reports, hardly any in writing from Dr. Wang, but I
kept myself informed through Mr. Chao Chuan from time to time.
It was not until one day in March early in the morning that
Mr. Chao Chuan came to my house and told me that a draft agreement had
just been signed by Dr. Wang and Mr. Karakhan in the old RussianEmbassy
where Mr. Karakhan was living. Mr. Chao was not able to tell me the
could make out, it was a full signature. I asked about the circumstances
the meeting started before daylight and dinner was given in honor of
Dr. Wang and after dinner the talks were resumed, and they went on till
nearly daybreak when the draft agreement was concluded with the signing
relations between the two countries and directing his glass to Dr. Wang
political world - that Dr. Wang had political ambition and was a first
class politician. But my immediate reaction was that this act of signing
Chinese representative. That was not the only point on which I was
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anxious. I wanted to know the contents of the draft agreement, in what
terms it was worked out, and whether there was anything in the signed
immediately telephoned Dr. Wang to ask him if what I had been told was
correct, that the agreement had already been signed. If so, I asked him
to at once send me a copy. I told him what the usual procedure was, not
only for China but for any other country, in the case of the conclusion
telling him that if he had signed the agreement without having referred
the draft text to the Government for consideration and final approval,
he said it was not signed but initialled. I said that if he had merely
initialled it, that would have been within his right, but I said I
wanted to see the text of it. He said it was being copied and that it
did not bring one until one or two days later. Upon closely examining
general principles to guide the relations between the two countries, for
Dr. Wang should not have accepted and which could have been revised without
to amend the text. There were several provisions, but in order not to
make the situation too difficult for Dr. Wang, I summarised the most
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important under three headings. The first was the question of the
abrogation of all treaties which Czarist Russia had concluded with China
and with other powers concerning China. This wording left out the
treaties and agreements Soviet Russia had made with what it called
troops from Outer Mongolia. It was the presence of these troops which
Mongolia. The withdrawal of troops had been discussed, but the relevant
provision of the draft agreement was that Soviet Russia would withdraw
its troops as soon as conditions for such withdrawal were agreed upon
Soviet Russia, who might find China’s conditions entirely unacceptable and
not like the implication of this particular clause which seemed to be that
the presence of Soviet troops was legitimate and that Soviet Russia
agreement stated that all such landed property belonging to the Catholic
China, and as I knew also that the Government had no record showing how
much property the Russian Catholic Church owned in China, and where or how
cial authorities.
of the complete text of the agreement signed by Dr. Wang and Karakhan.
One might digress to ask what personal motive Dr. C. T. Wang had
It was the general impression in virtually all circles that Dr. Wang had
political circles headed by Dr. Sun Yat-sen and the prospect of political
career with the Southern political forces was rather limited. He was
Government just as, for example, Dr. Wang Ch'ung-hui and General
Huang Fu, who were also at the time active in Peking. Anyone who had
Peking and wanted to be the foreign minister and then the premier. I
think this impression at the time was not far from the truth, because
Dr. Wang had been seeking support from General Feng Yd-hsiang, an
which for the powerful warlords in that period was also a common
Embassy when the treaty was signed. General Feng was the next important
guest present. General Feng at the time had been seeking the friendship
of Soviet Russia and it had always been known that Dr. Wang and General
Feng were close friends just as General Feng and W. W. Yen were good
friends, though Dr. Yen was not as close to General Feng as Dr. Wang
was. Dr. Wang and General Feng were both Christians - General Feng had
been baptized also. Moreover a certain Pastor Liu, who was a very
devoted associate and supporter of General Feng, had worked very hard to
bring Dr. Wang and General Feng together and weld them into a sort of
political bloc. Politically, Dr. Wang, Dr. W. W. Yen, and Mr. Sun Pao-
ch’i belonged to one group; Sun Pao-ch'i was closely related to Dr. Yen
- for Mrs. Yen was Sun's sister and it was Sun who sponsored their
marriage. This was why Dr. Yen and Mr. Sun had strongly recommended
Dr. Wang to me. I had no reason for objection to Dr. Wang's appointment
since we had known each other for many years, although Dr. Wang played
not receive any particular training in diplomacy, but that did not matter
together with Mr. Kuo T'ai-ch’i and Mr. Eugene Ch'en, he had always
title which the American public was always ready to confer on any foreign
statesman. I think that later he may have received some honorary degrees,
but he had no academic doctorate at all. The same is true with Dr. W. W. Yen
and Dr. Alfred Sze; neither of them had worked for and obtained a doctoral
degree at any college or any university, but they were known as Dr. Yen
and Dr. Sze. In the Chinese Foreign Service, as a tradition from the
old days showed, the one important consideration which the authorities
had in mind was that the diplomat should have as qualification the ability
to speak foreign languages. If one had been partly educated abroad and
all that was required. The idea that a diplomat should have at least
potentiary in spite of the fact that I knew he was not fully trained for
keep me informed very closely. But as it turned out, he did not see
that he had the duty of keeping the Foreign Minister or the Foreign
been my desire to find out from him or from the members of the Foreign
Ministry who were on his staff how things were getting aiong. In that
epoch it was a general idea - and from my personal point of view it was
a deplorable idea - on the part of the Chinese political aspirants
always to seek the support and assistance of some foreign power. Whether
personally I deplored.
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When the report was submitted to the Cabinet all my colleagues were
most indignant, first, at -the -fact that Dr. Wang had practically not
paid attention to the fact that he had been representing a government, which
he had thus slighted. In the second place, they saw great objection to the
three points which I had pointed out in my report. The Minister of War
remember that Mr. Wang Klo-min, the Minister of Finance, took strong
objection to two points. One was in connection with the return of the
opinion on this point - the third point I had raised •* was strongly
However, Wang K*o-min had even stronger objection to the clause relating
to the disposal of the Boxer Indemnity. Among the unequal treaty provisions
It was for that reason that a provision was included in the draft agreement
that the money left after taking care of the obligations secured on the indemnity
equal number of members from both sides. Mr. Wang K'o-min objected most
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strongly to giving Soviet Russia the whole say in allocating the remitted
funds. He criticized Dr. Wang for having accepted the clause without
consulting him as Minister of Finance, since this was a matter which fell
within the domain of the Minister of Finance. Mr. Wang K'o-min proposed,
with the support of the Minister of War, that Dr. Wang should be dismissed at
X took a moderate view. I said what Dr. Wang did was not in accordance
with his credentials and his act was one of gross negligence; I went on to
continue in his capacity, that in fact so far as he was concerned his mission
had been completed and that now it was up to the Government to repair the
mistake which hehad made. While he should be released of his duty, it should
Waichiaopu, which would continue the work with the Soviet representatives.
world was usually looked upon as an act of punishment and disgrace for the
international position. I also said that the mistake was a serious one but
not beyond repair, for China could stand very firmly on the ground that
Dr. Wang's signature was not authorized; he had exceeded his power and his
that the case should be handled in such a manner as not to hurt China's
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of the government, calling for all tfee respect not only from the Soviet
representative but from the Diplomatic Body and the general public; if he
I was rather surprised that neither Premier Sun Pao-ch’i nor Dr.
W. W. Yen said much to defend Dr. C. T. Wang. It was in March 1924, and
Ts’ao K’un had already been inaugurated as president. But in the course
of the Cabinet meeting at the request of Sun Pao-ch’i the term mien-chih
Wang K’o-min was deleted from the mandate issued by the government. Of
course I agreed to Sun Pao-ch’i’s request because, I said, >the case should
be handled in a moderate way. It was simply stated in the mandate that the
negotiations conducted between the High Commissioner and Mr. Karakhan should
negotiations and that Dr. Wang’s mission was terminated with any apparent
probing.
When the mandate was published it must have been a shock to Mr.
Karakhan, who lost no time in addressing the Waichiaopu with a demand that
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the Chinese Government declare its acceptance of the agreement within forty-
eight hours on the ground that it had been duly signed by the Chinese
would have to bear all the consequences. In my reply I pointed out the reasons
why the Chinese Government declined to accept the draft agreement above
Dr. Wang*8 signature; I said that in signing Dr. Wang had exceeded his powers;
Mr. Karakhan again pressed the Waichiaopu for a favorable reply. I stood
firm with the approval of the Government. The three or four points which my
Though Dr. Wang’s draft agreement was not definitely supported by Dr.
Sun Yat-sen and the Southern Government, it did secure the support of high
Soviet mission, with the co-operation of Dr. Wang’s political circles, began
to make its effect felt. Peking University sent a mission to the Waichiaopu
asking for an interview with me. I remember that the head of the group
professors and students of Peking University. Li’s main point was that the
agreement reached between Dr. C. T. Wang and Mr. Karakhan was the best in China’s
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diplomatic history; he wanted to knew for what reasons the government had
objected to this agreement and had not approved it. It was not difficult
for me to explain the objection which the Government had to the agreement.
I explained to them the different points and emphasized that the question
of Outer Mongolia was a matter of Chinafs sovereignty over that area and of
concluded with China or with any other party in regard to Outer Mongolia. The
reply Professor Li Ta-chao gave was a shock to me. He said that the people
of Outer Mongolia could look forward to a better life even if Outer Mongolia
should be under Soviet domination and control. His reply was so emotional
that I thought he had lost all his sense of propriety. So I turned to him and
said that of course he could express and hold whatever personal view he liked
but I, as Foreign Minister of the Chinese Republic, had the duty to see to it
that China's territory and sovereignty were kept intact and were not
I said he and I stood on opposite sides and therefore there was no use for
student world were probably under the persuasion and instigation of the
on the part of Mr. Karakhan and Dr. C. T. Wang because I received a telegram
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from the leading generals and governors of different provinces under the
Chinese Government in Peking, including General Wu P^i-fu, who was then con
sidered to be the leader of North China at least from the military point of
view and the chief supporter of President Ts'ao K'un's regime. The
the lower Yangtze, Szechwan, Honan, and Shantung, etc. The sending of this
him was Dr. C. T. Wang. The telegram gave much the same grounds as those
the first agreement which showed that China was able to get recognition as a
nation on an equal footing with a foreign power. The telegram posed the
same question; since this was the best agreement China had ever had, what assu
rance I had that it could be improved upon? I was rather annoyed but didn't
feel embarrassed at all because I was perfectly certain of the solid grounds
which were unanimously approved by the Cabinet and even the Prime Minister
and W. W. Yen, who originally recommended Dr. C. T. Wang/ but didn't say a
The only course which X could and did follow was to bring the matter
openly acknowledged time and again, with diplomacy, foreign policy, and
and of the Waichiaopu in regard to this draft agreement and he said th&t he
was one hundred per cent in agreement with the views of the Cabinet and the
Foreign Office. He said that General Wu P'ei-fu, who did not know how the
had been going on, had no right to express his views because
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he was not familiar with the nature of the case; he said he was angry at Wu
did not concern him; he said that he was sending his personal representative
that same day to see Wu and tell him to shut up. This representative was
one of Ts^o K'un^ strong supporters and personal followers and was a
friend of General Wu P'ei-fu; he was sent by a special train and came back within
two days. The President then told me that General Wu P'ei-fu understood the
situation and promised not to say a word about the matter from that time on.
Waichiaopu and of upholding the agreement and so forth was all done at
the instigation of the Soviet mission, Dr. Wang^ commission, and the
hand, the Waichiaopu and in this case, the Cabinet, looked at the question
entirely from the point of view of China’s prestige, without any political
relations had been a curse to China for many decades, more particularly
was not successful. I was not impressed by his protest because I felt
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that not only were the points agreed upon by Dr. Wang of great significance
to China but also the ground on which Mr. Karakhan based his protest was
Wang did not have he power to sign the agreement, as Mr. Karakhan claimed.
The impasse remained and as I remained firm Mr. Karakhan for the first few
days devoted himself to bringing about pressure from the Chinese public and
to propaganda and publicity, and apparently Mr. C,.T. Wang and his
supporters were working together with Mr. Karakhan to this end. But I was
Negotiations with Soviet Russia; The Bomb Incident and the Settlement of
May 31, 1924
But the revised agreement was not to be signed without one very
unexpected incident which showed the extent to which those who upheld
Mr. Karakhan felt to obliged to suggest negotiations, cince the bomb inci
dent passed without inducing any change in my attitude. Thus the incident
About a week or ten days after the Karakhan-Wang agreement was signed,
I had to attend a lunch party given by Mr. Sun Pao-ch'i, the Premier, at
like a piece of raw iron rod, about three inches in diameter and a few
Minister". @n the left hand side it said that the donor was the Archaeolo
gical Institute of Nanyang, Honan, and just to the right of my name, the
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object was described as an ancient seal cast in white gold of the ChHng
dynasty. I lefted the object very carefully with two hands and the
I had never seen a bomb, nor did I take it as a bomb, but I felt that this
miB t be some very ugly thing. There was a little glass tube on the top
appeared I told him to take this away carefully and throw it into the little
carry it carefully and throw it into the water gently. He went away with
the object and in a few seconds there was a terrific explosion. I felt
at once that it must have come from that object so I rushed out to the place
and I was stopped by the major domo. He had heard the noise and said
something must have exploded at the main gate. I said no^ it must have
been in the direction of the lake. When I approached the main Chinese
building and entered into the foreign style part of the house, the place
was filled with fumes, and there were two men. One was lying flat on the
floor, one in the pantry and another one just in the room next to it. There
was a hole in the room and a hole in the table and my cook,who had been out
side the pantry peeling potatoes in the garden near the porch, was
yelling that he was bleeding. I thought one of the two men on the floor
must be dead. My major domo said he would at once telephone to the main
Peking Union Medical College for an ambulance and for some doctors to
come. After that telephone to the police." Within a few minutes both
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the doctor and the ambulance and police chief accompanied by another
policeman arrived. The two men on the floor were taken away. One of them had
both his hands blown off and was bleeding on the floor. The other one was
unconscious. The cook on the terrace was injured by broken glass on his
While the police were looking around I asked one of the maidservants
what had happened. She said that when Ts^i, the butler, came with this ob
ject in his hands, he yelled to everybody to come and see this precious
object. He said it was written on the outside "White gold", that the
master had asked him to throw it away carefully but he said why should it
there was a seal inside of the Ch!ing dynasty. So putting the bomb on a
wooden table on the porch, he tried to open it with one of the carving
who were injured, and I felt that the one who was told to drop it carefully
into the lake did not follow my advice. He was one of the two men lying
flat on the floor. The other one who had lost his hands was the one who
was holding the bomb as the chief butler was trying to open it with a
knife.
When I had first seen the ugly object - the bomb - on my desk I had asked
the doormen - there were doormen for many high officials in Peking - how
it had arrived and how it had appeared on my desk. One doorman said that the
bomb was brought to my house in a package the evening before, after dark.
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Two young men had brought it w&o said that it was a piece of antiquity
of great value and something the Minister would like to have; when the
doorman asked them for their address they declined to tell him and rushed
Mr. N. C. Young, who was staying in my house. Mr. Young then opened the
package and told the doorman to leave the ugly thing on my desk because I
would want to know who it was who gave this present to me. That was how it
had arrived on my desk. It was a very crude thing and a time bomb. The
police chief very heartily congratulated me because the thing would have
if I had remained at the desk the thing would have got me.
for the maintenance of peace and order in the capital and for the safety
vestigation. After about ten days he came and made a personal report to me
with the bomb incident were questioned, and from them it was learned that this
bomb was made locally in a glass smith’s shop outside Hatamen. The two
affirming that they had something to do with it, that they did the ordering
and supervising at the instigation of some people higher up, and they did
not want to reveal whom. The police chief said he was convinced that this
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up the whole case by accusing Dr. C. T. Wang and Mr. Karakhan. I told
him to give up that idea. But, he said, it might or might not be absolutely
true. It was all circumstantial, but the two young students1 words probably
had some truth in them. I said any steps taken to enlarge and expand
the significance of this incident would not help the situation at all, and
was responsible, that it was a dastardly act, that two men were very seriously
persuaded him to keep all the details in the record but that it would be
better to release the two students. Apparently they were the instruments and
it was not their intention to do it. They did something which they said
protect me wherever I went. Four police guards, each armed with a carbine
was not very edifying or necessary. They used to stand on each side of
telephoned the police chief to recall two of them. After about two
weeks I insisted upon his recalling the other two. One of them, who, I
was told, was an excellent marksman, asked to stay and enter in my employ.
I took him in and he remained with me until two years ago. He stayed with
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me from 1924 till 1960, thirty six years, and now with his savings has
It is very hard to say who was responsible for planting the bomb.
Dr. C. T. Wang was not involved in the incident himself; it was possible that
who had a more far-reaching objective and policy in China than the mere
had a hand in the incident. The two students involved in the incident
were, as I mentioned before, from Peking University. They were young men;
I don1t remember their names although they were reported to me. I felt
convinced that these two men, as they said, were told to order the bomb
and it was not their intention to do it. Of course at that time some
of the Communist agents were working among the student body in Peking.
me on the part of the "intellectual" world and the press aggravated by the
incident however did not lead me to revise my attitude and I think it was
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shortly after that that Karkhan sent his secretary to the Waichiaopu to
Mr. Karakhan had heard that I was confined to bed with a high
temperature; though his secretary1s mission was to convey his inquiries about
my health and his best wishes, at the same time the secretary said he
thought that Mr. Karakhan and I myself should try to get together and talk
things over: although this suggestion was made without Mr. Karakhan^
knowledge he, the secretary, felt that Mr. Karakhan would be disposed to
talk over the situation. As I was really confined to my bed with a high
to my house, which was really what Mr. Karakhan through his secretary had
try to be reasonable and wanted to know what were the real objections I had tot
this agreement; while asserting that he could not agree to any extensive al
terations, he was ready to hear what I had to say. I remember that not
serious points which required revision and that those could not be
away without indicating what he would do but I had the impression that he
was anxious to solve the deadlock which had arisen. Through his secretary
again he wanted to know the viewpoint of the Foreign Office in writing, and
know the objections the Chinese Government had and any proposal which it would
make. This was done. Then, feeling personally restrained from asking
articles in the agreement were exchanged between the foreign Office and
the Soviet mission. The principal sentence concerned, as I stated before, thre<
points. Two related to the question of Outer Mongolia, namely, the safeguard
troops from that territory. The third one was in connection with the church
China.
Boxer Indemnity - the main objection of the Minister of Finance, Wang K'o«
min - was not one of the points of discussion, because it was to be disposed
Chinese were to have the majority of the membership, but all the decisions
was to be one of the Chinese representatives. I did not consider that the
the majority so that, as far as China^ prestige was concerned, that was not
I did not agree; that was the provision of unanimity for any decision of
The other three points were really of great importance. Mr. Karakhan
finally yielded on all these three points and agreed to the proposed
of notes. This was a formula proposed by Mr. Karakhan evidently to save the
signed but was modified by the exchange of notes. It was expressly stated
that the notes exchanged formed a part of the draft agreement and had the
was reached on the three points upon which I had insisted from the very
beginning. It remained only to set a date - May 31, 1924 ~ for Mr.
that they had been conducted secretly. That was practically a condition which
in view of the position he assumed immediately after he and Dr. Wang signed
the agreement, and I raised no objection. Moreover the matter had aroused
so much public attention that it had become a political issue in the country.
an May 31, 1924, and the news was released immediately afterwards. The
news turned out to be a pleasant surprise for the press and the public because
they appreciated the fact that the efforts which the Waichiaopu had been making
succeeded in the end in gaining the main points which the government
on the signing evidently satisfied with the result, and friendly relations
were assured between us personally and diplomatic relations were thus formally
inaugurated.
Mr. Karakhan had been named ambassador to China, the Chinese Government
did not wish to appoint a full ambassador to Moscow because the agreement
which had been reached and signed was one on general principles to guide
The question of the Chinese Eastern Railway was considered by both the
Mr. Joffe at first and later Mr. Karakhan in the capacity of the official
territory. Moscow was anxious to make an arrangement not only for the
but also - and probably more especially - for the purpose of preventing
White Russians against the Soviet Government. The efforts of the Soviet
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September 20, 1924 with Marshal Chang Tso-lin at Mukden. This question
was not settled in Peking as Mr. Karakhan, perhaps seeing that the
authority of the Chinese Government over Manchuria was only nominal, did
not wish to enter into any agreement which might not be acceptable to the
Manchurian authorities.
I mention this only to indicate how confused and complicated the whole
political situation in China was at the time. Looking back from today,
I see this period in Peking was a very turbulent and disturbed one in
politics and foreign intrigues, here was the introduction of a new factor
back to China, such as Dairen or Port Arthur, which Japan had taken
the discussion that actually took place on the committee did not give
at the time much prospect for early realization of China1s hopes for
of Port Arthur and Dairen which lie on opposite sides of the Gulf of
the right tc build the Chinese Eastern Railway from the borders of
territory on each side of the railway was the lease of Dairen and
time there was a great deal of talk in European capitals of the im
book which had for its title "The Breakup of China." It was then
seems to tell me that the lease of Wei-hai-wei was fixed for as long
a term as the lease of Port Arthur and Dairen which was for 25
years. So in early 1922 the 25-year period was approaching its ter
mination date as agreed upon tn the original lease. That was one
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Treaty and the failure of the U.S. Senate to ratify the Versailles
was therefore very well timed and it was not only favorably received
Even at the time, the French delegation did not create nearly as
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favorable an impression as the British delegation because it was felt
that the French had not only been inspired by the British delegation
but had been more or less forced to make such a move. Although the
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were apprehensive that the French would not prove to be very
or another put off the question until the fortunes of the Second
World War so turned against her that China was able to seize it
haiwei should take place in China. The first steps were taken by
ended. But it was not until I succeeded him as Foreign Minister that
1922 China appointed Mr. M. T. Liang, one of the early returned student
provisional agreement between the two parties was reached and a final
draft was effected. But this draft agreement had always been under
had been used by the British Navy as a summer resort. That was only
one of its purposes: much more important, it was used as a base for
British naval squadron along the Yangtze River and the coast. Now
summer resort for the use of the British navy for a period of ten
at which time the land and the buildings would be returned to the
Tao, which lies opposite Wei-hai-wei and controls the Bay, would also
drafted, the loan to the British navy might - and at all events would
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words, unless there were some special reason, China would be free to
wished.
all the lost territories. Although Liu-kung Tao is a very small piece
It was at this stage that the negotiations were taken out of the
had been freely agreed to in the negotiations between the two commis
sioners. I could not fail to think that the British Admiralty insisted
upon the point for the same reasons that China refused to agree to
it. Finally, after much debate. Sir Ronald Macleay and I agreed
both sides saw the significance of the question and stood adamant
I took the stand that since Great Britain was sincere in her
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intention to return the leased territory of Wei-hai-wei, including
could not accept the formula which X proposed, namely, that the loan
request would suffice to renew the loan. I recall that it was finally
should be done if the two governments could not agree on the renewal
of the loan, that could be taken up at the end of the ten-year period.
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side could foresee what the situation would be then. With the world
become not only friends but even allies within the ten-year period.
Then, not just Liu-kung Tao but some other portion of territory
China had always looked upon Great Britain as a friend and took it
sations had been held between the British minister and the then
The Wanhsien Incident was a case where the British naval authorities
approached the ship. When the captain of the ship, the name of which
the ship to turn and sail away. Since the ship was in that part of
the Yangtze River where the waters were very turbulent - these waters
were known as the Yangtze rapids - the waves stirred ; up by the ship
suddenly upset the boat; the men fell into the river and lost their
This was a straw that broke the camel*s back because previously
of lives among the soldiers of General Yang Sen, who was the local
consulate but with no result. So, when this incident occurred General
Yang Sen ordered the detention of two ships of the same company at Wan
pressure upon the British company and upon the British consular
authorities to settle the previous cases as well as this one. The names of
two ships were Wanhsien and Wantung. The Admiral of the British Yangtze
squadron at once took the matter in his own hands; he had one of his patrol
did so in order to force General Yang Sen to release the detained ships.
Yang Senxs forces fired first. Whoever fired first, as the subsequent
ships went there with their guns mounted apparently with the hostile
intention to force the release of the ships. The gunfire frcm the
British boats caused a great deal of damage and about one thousand
civilians lost their lives in addition to the soldiers who were drowned,
This was a wanton action on the part of the British naval authorities and
previously, but the way in which they were handled had been rather
ineffective, because, in the first place, the statement of facts was not
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always very clear and, secondly, those cases had usually been dealt
law, which should have governed the relations between nations, but in
accordance with the local practice where the gravity of the case in the
light of international law was not fully appreciated. And this kind
was carefully prepared and which was based first on a statement of the
actual facts and then on international law which should guide such matters.
I also found it necessary to have the story published so that the outside
world would understand what the case was about, and should know the facts
but that fact itself did not warrant high-handed actions on their
[Wunsz King: Dr. V. K. Wellington Koo*s Foreign Policy] for the very
reason that this note set an example of how such cases should be handled
by China and showed that such cases should not be treated as ordinary
protest was dated November 2 the same year. The incident occurred during
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portfolio, and I went back to the Foreign Office and became. Soncurrently
Premier and Foreign Minister. It was during my tenure that I had to con
tinue to deal with this case. As I have just said, I found it necessary
to set the case in its proper light and to bring out the main facts of the
case, its significance, and the responsibility of the British naval authorities
minister Sir Ronald Macleay to convey the contents of this note to his
government, it must have taken some time for him to send the reply to me.
and the Chinese Commissioner for Foreign Affairs at Ichang, and Yang
Sen agreed to release the two captured beats, leaving the question of
compensation for loss of life and property until a full investigation 'had
been made.
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In 1926, the Sino-Belgian Treaty of 1865 had already lasted for sixty
expiration of every ten-year period, beginning from the date of the ex
new treaty on the basis of equality and reciprocity. This had been the
policy of the Chinese Government since the time of the Peace Conference in
Paris when the most important of China’s series of memoranda was the
one which asked for the revision of the unequal treaties. The notification
to Belgium in April called for a reply which came in due course, and which
Belgium which had the right to ask for a revision; reserving the point,
Belgium was disposed to enter into negotiations for a new treaty. However
the point at issue became centered upon the desire of Belgium to have
assurance from the Chinese Government that pending the negotiations to con
clude a new treaty the then existing old treaty would continue to be in
a
force; whereas on the Chinese side it was considered important tha£ time
should be set for the negotiation of the new treaty. In any case China
took the stand that six months should be engugh for the negotiation and
on without concrete results, and the attitude of the two parties appeared
to be irreconcilable.
doubt that it should be adhered to in fact, since China*8 policy from the
Paris Peace conference on had always been to regard the revision of the
the Foreign Office in the second part of October I took charge of this ques
should be a modus vivendi after October 27, 1926 which was the date of the
expiration of the sixth 10-year period. The modus vivendi was to carry
on the essential provisions of the old treaty for the time being but I
insisted on fixing a definite period for the conclusion of the new treaty;
if at the end of the six month period the new treaty was still not completed
the modus vivendi would terminate and China would treat Belgian nationals in
China and conduct her relations with Belgium in general on the basis of
turn that the modus vivendi should continue until a new treaty was completed
Failing this, Belgium, having reserved her position with regard to Article
46, by which Belgium alone had a right to propose the revision of the
treaty, made it clear to China that she would refer the case to the
grounds that both China and Belgium had accepted the so-called
did not respond to the notification from the Court and Belgium for the
time being did not press the case since negotiations were still going
on in Peking. When the date closed and Belgium repeated her intention to
press the case at the Hague it was clear that this was meant to be a threat
on the part of Belgium. I was however fully convinced that although the
sense that only Belgium could ask for a revision at the end of each 10
year period, despite the clarity of its language it could not stand up to
cially since the Paris Peace Conference. In fact one of the main reasons
for which China presented her memoranda for the revision of the unequal
treaties was that conditions prevailing at the time when those treaties were
made had changed, and the changed conditions made those treaties out of
date and called for their revision in accordance with current conditions.
of the old treaty, should continue indefinitely until the proposed new
treaty was definitely concluded and put into force, there was no course left
to China except to carry out its intention of terminating the old treaty.
the negotiations and reasons for the proposed termination of the old treaty
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and also a statement of the rules by which the relations between China
set of the proposed regulations. This was a shock to the Belgian Govern
ment. But it was unavoidable because after nearly half a year,s negotiation
China. The motive behind this attitude was evident especially after the
old regime whenever any of the four countries Great Britain, the
United States, France, and Japan, had agreed to terminate its current
toriality. The basic point at issue was that Belgium wanted to continue
for a new treaty within a six month period before the termination date of
in Chinese diplomatic history because it was the first time that an unequal
treaty was declared completely abrogated by China in the face of the open
and official opposition of the other party in the treaty. It was necessary
the principle of rebus sic stantibus but it was also necessary to set
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an end to the regime of unequal treaties from which China had suffered
what she should do. In fact she could do nothing by way of retaliation.
There was also no special reason for her to do so because along with the
for the protection of the life and property of Belgian nationals in China,
and that so far as Belgium trade was concerned, it was to be treated on the
Belgium and when the Northern Military Expedition launched by the Kuomintang
Office and the Belgian Legation was somewhat surprising because it accepted
what the Chinese Government in Peking had steadily refused namely that
a modus vivendi was agreed to in which one of the clauses provided that the
until over one half of the treaty powers which had been enjoying the same
special privileges and left this thorny problem to the other powers.
circle by an initiative which would set an example to the other powers that
treaties, whereas the course of policy and action adopted in Nanking seemed
to temporize with the situation by putting the matter off until half
the foreign powers had agreed to it. This difference in the attitude and
doing away with unequal treaties as early as possible was a policy based
upon the nation-wide public sentiment in China. As it has been made clear,
Belgium still held on to Art. 46 of the old treaty by which she claimed to
be solely entitled to ask for revision of the treaty, and this was clearly
the one hand, (Art.46 of the treaty), and on the other hand to
the principle provisions in the old treaty namely, that which concerned
At the time when the treaty of November 22, 1928 was published,
the public was surprised but did not understand why until the Legislative
Yuan in Nanking took up the matter and asked for the presence of the
Peking and did not expect that the Foreign Office in Nanking would yield
to the Belgian demand. From Dr. Wang*s reply, he seemed to have felt that
sional agreement, a modus vivendi, until the other powers who still were
enjoying the privileges c£ the unequal treaties had agreed to relinquish them.
would likewise give the special privileges up when any of the four Powers
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adopted the same attitude, China could never escape this vicious circle.
I suppose that, in agreeing to this Belgian formula, the Foreign Office did
not fully understand the significance of it, nor had the Foreign Office
the Chinese press and public opinion were very critical of the action
taken by the Foreign Office in Nanking. But what the Foreign Office
did was an accomplished fact, and nothing else could be done to remedy
in the same position after the abrogation of the Belgian treaty as before.
Though the recovery of the customs and tariff autonomy was formerly agreed
on the initiative of Great Britain and the United States. The treaty with
the United States was signed in Washington in January 1943, and the treaty with
Great Britain in Chungking on the same day, thereby terminating the principal
on Chinese territory
Boxer Indemnity Refund; China Foundation
The Board of Trustees for the Promotion of Chinese Culture and Education.
between China and the United States for the advanced education of Chinese
portion of the Boxer Indemnity allocated to the United States. The total
The agreement was signed on Decemeba: 28, 1908. It was this money which
their preparatory work at Tsinghua were sent to the United States and
remission of the balance of the United States portion of the Boxer Indemnity
left after paying all the claims which had been presented to the United
The agreement concluded between China and the United States relating to
this portion of the remitted sum provided for a joint board of trustees
of whom ten were to be Chinese and five were to be Americans. The United
lot to discuss the matter with the assistance of Dr. P. W. Kuo, who was
out and I presented to the Cabinet for consideration and approval. It was
passed on to the President who issued the necessary mandate for promulgating
The members of the Board were duly appointed by the two governments. I
Chinese members of the Board of Trustees were Dr. Hu Shih, Dr. Kuo, Dr.
don’t remember whether Mr. Chiang Monlin was also one of them. The
board functioned well. Its principal task was not simply the allocation
of the funds for Chinese educational and cultural purposes but it had to
see to it that the funds received periodically from the American government
served on the Board and sat on the Finance Committee of which the
Peking.
and the Ministry of Finance. It was urged that the large amount of funds
the New York stock market, but that it should partially be invested in
National Government in Nanking took the position that since this body
was handling public funds, it should come under the control and super
fact that the Chinese composition of the Board was made up largely of
and educators of the Kuomintang were admitted. But the desire of the
seat to the United States after the loss of the mainland. It was then
named the China Foundation, the present body, with its work remaining
much the same but with its resources greatly curtailed: all the funds
of the companies in China such as the Shanghai Power and China Real
the national Chinese currency. The annual meeting of the Board usually
was elected a member of the Board after I retired from the diplomatic
service, about 1956, and today I am still a member of the Board, serving
Today the China Foundation is entrusted not only with the funds
left over by the Board of Trustees, funds which had greatly diminished
government and private securities. It also has other funds under its
charge such as the Tsinghua College Capital Fund, and also the Fan
the original idea of investing part of the funds in Chinese public and
private securities was a proper idea, though much against the views of
Belgium, and Japan, but the arrangements were different in each case. In
the case of the Japanese remission, the whole administration was put in
the hands of the Japanese Foreign Office although the money was to be
spent on educational and cultural purposes in China in much the same way
the Tsinghua Fund, on the grounds that originally the budget of Tsinghua
College could be carried out only after approval by the Minister of Educa
tion, and that the President of Tsinghua College was appointed by the
Ministry of Education. That was one of the headaches of Dr. Mei, who
the China Foundation. Finally a compromise solution was found and approved
the Tsinghua fund in the custody of the China Foundation would be turned
College, and I think for the College of Agriculture and Forestry would
On one ground was criticism not only from the Ministry of Education
in Taiwan but also from educational circles in Taiwan and the U. S.
Personally I doubt that the criticism was much justified, although it was
and who were personally known, either to Dr. Mei, Dr. Hu Shih or Dr.
carefully made and the qualifications were rather stiff; and the fact
that the recipients came from a limited circle was probably due to the
fact that they were personally known to the Director or to the other
The situation faced by the China Foundation was difficult after the loss
and also some of the scientists who had come to the United States for
think there was some preference shown toward them. This was a natural
sentiment because men like Dr. Mei, Dr. Hu Shih, and Dr. T. F. Tsiang
knew them personally; their sympathy was all the keener because they knew
that these people, who were in financial difficulties, were qualified and
the awards mainly in favor of this class of people without any conscious
who remained outside the circle to feel that they had not received equal
treatment. This was the special situation which gave rise to criticism.
When the criticism became loud and pressure grew from the Ministry of
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number of secret papers. The order for the raid came from Marshal
Chang Tso-lin, and was carried out by the An-kuo-chun police under
headquarters.
the Foreign Office nor the Kuo-wu-yuan was informed about the plans
After the raid had taken place I was informed only indirectly. I
all, part of the diplomatic corps. I tried to find out how it all came
about, and learned that the order had been given to the garrison commander
and through him to the police chief and the chief of the military police.
These three concerted their action and raided the embassy. I felt quite
upset when I learned of the news, and I took up the matter with the
headquarters of Marshal Chang and with the chief of the military police
which carried out the raid. I recall that they explained to me that
they had not informed the Foreign Ministry because they felt certain
that we would have objected to it, and that it would have embarassed
Indeed, I would have and did object to the raid, and in my note to
the Russian Embassy I made clear that the Foreign Ministry had had no
previous knowledge of it. In fact, during this whole period I strove
and established procedures, but the behavior of the warlords made this
difficult.
(It was at the same time that Li Ta-chao [?] , who was inside the
There are several erroneous reports concerning the raid which I should
in carrying out the raid, and who apparently consulted with William J.
the execution of the raid. It has been said that Wu was Vice Minister
of Foreign Affairs at this time. The fact is that Wu was not in the
Foreign Ministry nor was he in any way connected with the Foreign
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs. But Wu Chin was never my ^ice Minister.
It has also been reported that the Russian Foreign Minister made
a long distance call to me the morning after the raid. This could not
be true. ( Often what appeared in the press came from Russian rather than
from Chinese sources. The Russians were experts in publicity and propaganda.)
Finally, there has been speculation that the raid prompted my resignation
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Some Reflections on the Failure of Democratic Government in China from
1912 to 1928
think in the first place there was no deeprooted tradition in China for
stated in our classical books that "Heaven speaks as the people speaks,"
legendary period of our history, government was said to have been run on more
democratic lines, in the sense that the position of the chief of state was
not hereditary like Emperor Yao, Emperor Shun and Emperor Yu. Each of
chose someone to take his place and himself abdicated. But after Yu,
as we all know, beginning with Emperor Txang, the throne became heredi
tary and the Chinese governmental system from that time on has become a
unitary state with the chief of state at the head of the nation with unlimited
powers. The emperor ruled at the head of^the state and as such he was
superior to all other people in the empire although from time to time there
was a system of the censorate where the ministers of the censorate had the
impeach higher officials of the realm but even to criticize the conduct
the advice rendered or the criticism levelled at the throne would be favorably
enlightened ones saw the point and would revise the imperial policy
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accordingly but some of the more strongminded and less enlightened emperors
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would often take this as an offense and we know from history that in a number
of cases, the censor who incurred the ire of the throne by his direct criticism
was punished, sometimes even deprived of his life. Therefore I think so far
In short the splendid precepts embodied in the Chinese classics were not
became a monolithic political entity with the emperor on the throne ruling,
absolute power even over the life and property of all the people in the
realm, there was hardly any occasion where the people were given an
people had a sufficient amount of food and clothing then the nation was
well provided. If the people were rich then the nation on the whole was
rich. But those were precepts, theories, which had never been fully imple
democracy, because of the Chinese political system did not lend to it.
It was very difficult for any popular group to exert its influence in
While in the villages of China, especially among the farmers there was
undertaken by the people under the leadership of members of the gentry, the
educated class, the effect of it was highly localized. There was no such
foundation as..we see for American democracy in the town meeting in North
America where the roots of democratic government are really deeply planted.
Nor was there any development in that direction since the inauguration of
the Republic in China. For the overthrow of the Dynasty and the inauguration
had existed through the centuries and saw the emergence of the epoch of
the warlords. Now, the country was split up in various spheres of political
influence under their respective military chiefs. That was true even of the
part of China which was under the rule of the Kuomintang, within which there
were a number of groups headed by military chieftains, and more so in the North
where each warlord tried to strengthen his military power in order to impose
its will over as large an area as possible eventually with the purpose
of dominating the whole of China. In other words, the imperial idea of China
had the strength of such a long tradition that warlords were never able
to understand what really democracy was or should be even though they were
President Yuan Shih-k’ai when I was his secretary in the early years of the
word "republic," was highly skeptical that the Chinese people could ever
had no idea of what a democracy really consists of. His mentality I think
the time with very few exceptions, such as a few intellectuals who had studied
abroad, travelled, and observed how democracy in the West was conducted.
experience I had during the World War will confirm my analysis. It was
tion with the British Parliamentary Goodwill Mission. At the time the ques
with the United States was being negotiated in Washington but that with Great
negotiations between the British minister Sir Horace Seymour and the Foreign
Minister Dr. T. V. Soong. They hit a snag, namely the question of the
recovery of Hongkong. According to both Sir Horace Seymour, who came to visit
me, and Dr. T. V. Soong, that was for China a sine qua non. Without
Great Britain giving up Hongkong no treaty would be signed. The deadlock was
prolonged and there was some anxiety, particularly on the part of the British
Minister. One day a meeting was called of practically all the Cabinet
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the heads of the four other yuan, and two or three of the leaders of the
the meeting, which was to discuss the question of the treaty with Great Britain,
particularly the question of Hongkong and said that China must stand firm on
it and no treaty should be signed. This was at the end of 1942. When he asked
for the views of a few elder statesmen like Mr. Yil Yu-jen, Dr. Sun Fo, Dr.
Wang Ch*ung-hui, they all supported the Generalissimo^ position as the only
policy to pursue.
back recently from London. I made a fairly comprehensive report which I had
done as a matter of fact to the Generalissimo privately the night before but
Mr. Churchill, Mr. Anthony Eden, and two or three important members of the
cabinet, with Lord Crampton the Commonwealth Minister, with leaders of the
banking world and of the universities,(for instance, with the Warden of one
of the colleges in Oxford) and then with the leaders of the China Association
which was a very influential body in regard to relations between China and Great
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Britain, and finally with leaders of the newspaper world, Mke the editors
of the Morning Post, the Times, and the Daily Mail: my overall impression
after these meetings was that Great Britain was prepared to return Hongkong
to China - that was a foregone conclusion. The only question these men raised
was, Why should China insist on its being done during the War? As Mr. Churchill
put it to me, Great Britain and China were in a life and death struggle with
our common enemies; we should devote all our attention on winning the
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war first and when the war was won. Great Britain would not change her mind,
but would give back Hongkong with only one condition, that its handing over
how it should be handed over and the question of the obligations to the
civil servants and others should be taken care of, and that was all Great
Britain was thinking about. As far as the principle and the general question
of handing over they fully agreed. X told the Generalissimo that my own view
goodwill on the part of Great Britain and the United States in handing back
extraterritoriality which was a thorn in our side, and which had been a popular
Hongkong was not included. As far as I could gather - and my impression was
quite clearcut - Hongkong would be handed back to China after the war was
won.
I was the only one who did not agree with the Generalissimo, and
and said, "Hongkong must be handed over" and then he said "The meeting is
After we filed out and was in the next room, going toward an exit, Dr. Wang,
Mr. Wu T1 ieh-ch^ng and Dr. Sun Fo one after the other patted my shoulder
and said "Do^t worry about it, we all agree with you. Our views are
exactly the same as yours." I said, ,?Why then did you say you agree with
the other view. Why « " "You know," he said, "the Generalissimo does not
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he call a meeting?" "We all are with you," he said, "we’ll work on it."
characteristic on the part of the Generalissimo: it has been the common feeling
or opposite views at any public meeting. This was probably due to two facts.
One was that traditionally a younger man should show deference to an old
man and was not supposed to contradict the views of an old man. Secondly,
one should not out of politeness and discipline openly oppose the views of
another one of higher authority. That was the Chinese psychology. With
these two factors shaping the psychology of the people, there was no custom
or still less, whereby the views of the majority should prevail. When there
are divergent views in a meeting and each person participating in the meeting
debate is used in order to bring out the truth of the situation or to reach
a compromise; that was not the pattern in China. Democratic decisions are
made not on the basis of the views of one or two persons but on the basis of th(
and which we could not find in our tradition. It takes time to train the
speakers would speak all at once and it was difficult for the chairman to try
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to maintain order unless he was a very strong chairman and insisted on some
have become much more orderly ~ much more orderly than the proceedings
and often there were five or six members speaking at the same time while the
Speaker was doing his utmost to maintain order. In recent years the
Taiwan. In the second place, the Legislative members have had more con
fidence for their tenure of office has practically become life-long. The
third factor, I think, is that the organization of political parties has not
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been as thoroughly efficient as it should, be*. With the exception of the
by Yuan Shih-k1ai. The members of this party were from different groups and
they joined the party for one single purpose, namely, to oppose the opposition
party - in this case, the Kuomintang. At that time Yuan Shih-k’ai was to
member of the Lower House or a senator - was not always true to his function
weapons. According to the constitution they enjoyed the right to vote, the
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power of impeachment of higher officials, even of the President and the Vice
their personal interests; they did not realize that these rights conferred
That tendency on the part of the members of Parliament to use their consti
tive institutions.
members of the government from the President down of the legitimate functions
of Parliament was rather minimal. The President or the Premier did not
was to play in the government and which should be respected by the executive
branch of the government. They did not see Parliament as a constitutional body,
which under the constitution had the right to do certain things such as to
sion of this legitimate role of Parliament that led to frequent in fact almost
constant and chronic conflict between Parliament on one side and the Cabinet
on the other. There was also conflict between Parliament and the President^
Office. As I have shown this triangular conflict time and again proved to be
situation which arose at the time when Mr. Sun Pao-chH’s Cabinet members
were appointed and the appointment had to be approved. But at that time
President^ Office and Parliament that the appointment was finally approved.
Usually some groups - and there were many in Parliament, even in the
Lower House - would make some claims on the prospective Cabinet ministers
hostile reaction from some of the political groups in Parliament. Even the
on the part of the heads of the ministries to insist on turning down en.bloc
these recommendations concerning some minor posts with wei- i.,en, or lower
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echelon rank. After all, the Parliamentarians were not too ungrateful; if you
treated them as political friends, they would not make unnecessary trouble.
But the general run of my political colleagues - some of them were my very
close friends and some of them had also been educated abroad - did not appear
system of government and its position was assured under the Constitution.
ment, a member of the government should not indulge in emotions, but should
keep a cool head, see things as they are, face reality. In saying this I
am trying not to criticize some of my colleagues but only to point out why
The points I have mentioned indie ate.-some of the root causes of the
failure. Time and again it has occurred to me that in our basic education, es
pecially in the lower grades, primary school and lower middle school, not only
taught to young people, so that as they grow up they would understand and
the right of objection should be recognized and that where honest differences
Democratic governments, it seems to me, are really based for their successful
less the minority,could force their views upon the nation and the people.
If the majority always rely on their votes and steam-roller through their
own proposals without considering the views of the minority, even though
legally in accordance with democracy they cannot last very long - there
I pondered over many times, a problem which I expressed above in the form of
factors I have mentioned may not be all embracing but account to a large
importance of government by law. The sense of a guiding law is not yet quite
was made a member, that the results of the voting did not matter very much.
They were revised so that those who either on account of age or by virtue of
or three cases when the elder statesmen or important military chiefs whose
presence on the committee was very much needed for political purposes had
been omitted, they were brought back and put in the list and those who
received a large number of votes and therefore came high in the list of
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of successful candidates were pushed - some of them even pushed off the list.
That was often done. Those who were responsible did not consider that as
anything wrong: from a political point of view it was a very wise thing to do.
It was not surprising that the people had no more conception of what respect
should be given to law. When I was Premier the third time, in 1924, a distant
relative of mine came up specially from Shanghai to see me. He had a small
bank in Shanghai. He himself had been for over twenty years the Chinese
bank. This friend of my father^ and ray family I received very cordially.
He told me that the purpose of his trip to Peking was to see me and ask me
to do a favor for him. I asked him what it was. He said many a private
Chinese bank in China had the right to issue banknotes and these banknotes
were circulated all over China. He said he wanted to get the right of issuing
for his bank and came to me for this privilege. I said the Premier^
Office did not handle that; he should apply to the Minister of Finance according
only a few weeks earlier the Cabinet on my proposal had taken a decision to
was pregnant with abuses. In any case he should apply to the Minister of
Finance for consideration. His answer was he knew it was against regulations
to get it now, and that was the reason why he had come to me. I said that
was the situation, the Government had made the decision to pursue the policy
abroad, you are really unfamiliar with Chinese life and ways Chinese. How
can you run the government!" I said I might be unfamiliar with these ways
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but I was telling him what the law was. He said: "I know the law does not
easily allow that, that's why I came to you for a personal favor!" Now that
explains exactly the attitude of the! people. Law or no law, you must chiang
Such are the ba sic problems of why the democratic system in China
has so far not succeeded. But we need not despair; it is a matter of time and
path of democracy and revert to the path of autocratic government I think the
cannot be born overnight and I do not think the experience China had during
the last fifty years in facing the problems of democratic government is unique
in Asia and even in Africa. There is no question that government of the people,
by the people, for the people, is the most important principle, but it is not
or the Constitutional Compact defined the powers of the executive and the
legislative. The President had great power, but he was subject to the
and approval; the treaties the government concluded with foreign countries
that because at that time Parliament did not always act in objective
bring pressure upon the executive. One common way that Parliament
used to press the government to accept certain of its claims was to withhold
branch of the government and the legislative branch were often found to
side and the Peiyang group led by the President on the other. Time
and again these two groups came into conflict. Such conflict was
In the very first year of the Republic T'ang Shao-i was able to
carry on the government for only one month. Personally, he and Yuan
were sworn brothers and had always worked together. Before the
Republic, when Yuan Shih-k’ai was Viceroy of Chihli and Grand Councillor,
T’ang Shao-i was Governor of the province of which Mukden was the capital.
At that time T’ang Shao-i was known, like Mr. Hsu Shih-ch’ang to be the
premier under President Yuan Shih-k'ai the two men could not see eye to
eye on the question as to how the government should be run. Mr. T'ang's
between the North and the South. As premier under the provisional
chief of the state, was bound to approve them. The first question which
ment of the Republic. Mr. T’ang's resignation meant of course the triumph
under the leadership of Mr. Sung Chiao-jen, who had been Minister
death; this breach also led to what President Yuan Shih-k'ai called
civil war broke out again. The whole episode showed clearly that
Yuan Shih-k'ai was nurtured in the tradition of the dynasty and had
of the two sides found themselves irreconcilable because there was such
had never got beyond the Yangtze River. He was unfamiliar with
between the government on one side and Parliament on the other. And
Parliament and the President's Office: since the President and the
Cabinet did not always see eye to eye in their respective relations to
Parliament there was also friction between the president's Office and the
In such cases the president was able to take a strong stand and act
as his own premier and appoint the cabinet ministers according to his
the friction between the president's office and the Cabinet did not
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arise, and beiiaffle friction between the Parliament one one side and the
government with the president at its head. But this was rather an ex
sometimes his colleagues in the Cabinet had to also. Even when questions
resignation on June 29, 1912, I was in close touch as one of the secre
a career diplomat and had been particularly known for his fine sense of
man of President Yuan Shih-k'ai; he was not at all popular with the
members of Parliament and they from the very start gave him a rather
papers that he did not answer the questions put to him, but tried to
evade them, which was not unlikely because he did not wish to commit
himself. His- presence there was involuntary. I recall the day when the
own disliking; they called him "vulgar", even though he was a refined
gentleman and most polite in speech and conduct, very quiet and
quite out of place and did not answer the purpose. Parliament had
policy, but although he had lived abroad for many years, and had been
who would be brave enough to fight a political battle and fire a speech
was not one at which great political questions were at stake or at which
lively debates were held; it followed the conference in 1899 and was
Conference was devoted to the high idea of peace but did not call
that he did make some speeches at the conferences which were, so far as
not have the experience of facing large popular bodies nor did he ever
Parliament was not very happy. President Yuan Shih-k'ai saw the
friend. He was simple and rather democratic in his bearing and his
Therefore during his time as President the friction arose not so much
on one hand and the Cabinet on the other. In fact it became a friction
the Cabinet, or between the Cabinet and the President because of his
person than almost any leader of the North or the South, but his lack
ment-s in the North, and explained why Parliament was dissolved more
which lay the suspicions and rivalry and the intrigues of the
resulted in open hostilities and civil war. If one should try to enumerate
the number of civil wars one would be surprised to realize how numerous
they were during the short period from the first year of the republic
Peking by the Kuomintang Army. Even during the Kuomintang rule with its
which did not help to promote peace and security in the nation.
Prime Minister, an experience which was not too pleasant because of the
President Ts'ao K'un nor before his election to the presidency when I
was head of the Regency Cabinet was there much conflict with Parliament.
This was in 1923. The Peiyang party and the leaders of Parliament were
I took no part and about which I was not informed. After Ts'ao K'un-"
with himself as Prime Minister. But the latter question was evidently
not at all to the taste of the Paoting clique or of the Chihli clique,
Cabinet Meetings
relatively simple. The Cabinet held its regular meetings usually three
presented by the President for the Cabinet to act upon such as for
special questions from the provinces from the heads of different provin
As a rule each ministry would submit a report and proposals for these
appointments and it was the general tradition that matters falling within
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proposal would be accepted without any discussion at all. The same thing
least in the lower ranks, which were proposed by the Minister of War,
normally call for some discussion; but as a rule very little discussion
be responsible for the affairs of his own ministry and this understanding
The cabinet meetings were attended only the Premier and the
were ever made out. Only the decisions were recorded. The record of
the Cabinet.
were rare and they took place only when some really important question
the treaty could be signed, the Cabinet had to approve its contents;
then, the treaty was reported to the President for approval in order
the Chinese minister or the special envoy for that purpose. This,
was limited to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Finance.
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Affairs, which in turn had to report this to the Office of the Controller
years at Peking the Ministry of Foreign Affairs derived revenue from the
of shipment.
fact, each ministry had to report to what was called the Auditing
charge of the drafting of the budget for the following year. Usually
each ministry. At the end of the year whatever surplus there was in each
X don t know whether in the days of Peking any such surplus left over
one. The poor ministries were the Ministry of Education, the Ministry
sometimes the consulates were not paid regularly and yet they had to
of the revenue collected from the scenes to defray the expenses tern-
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porarily. he well-off ministries were generally known to be the
was still under the control of the Government. Other revenues such as
revenue for the Imperial Palace. When the Republic was established
China would seize the Ch'ung-wen-men revenue for their own purposes.
So, when I was Minister of Finance even the Ch'ung-wen-men revenue was
one of the reasons: the provinces had long stopped to remit revenue
until the time of the Taiping Rebellion when the remittances became
rather irregular but they were kinds of revenue which the central
governors of the provinces were given special power to raise the revenue
through a transit tax (likin) which was levied for the special
to the very last day of the dynasty and kept up even in the republic.
money which was called ts'ao p'ing. Later the two sources
of revenue for the central government were from the salt tax -
the Liang-huai yen yun ssu and the Ch'ang-lu yen yun ssu. They were
great revenue producing organs. But in the later Ch'ing Dynasty and
Customs, and the Salt Gabelle, which was monopolized by the state
Official Salaries
in Peking, the official pay was the same throughout the different
ministries and the Cabinet and varied only in accordance with the
rank. The salaries were based upon a set of regulations whose basic
principle was that each official should be paid according to the rank
which is above t *e-jen, and in this case, the Party has to make the
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and the president, as the chief executive, did not belong to any
Officials belonging to the t1 e*• ]en level were all paid the same
amount of salary. Within the other three levels there were different
steps.
foreign countries) were chien-ien, and were paid $1800 a month. That
was the salary fixed in the days of the Manchu dynasty. Envoys were
The first class envoy had a salary of 1800 taels and the second
class envoy 1200 taels. In those days there were different kinds
of taels. This was kuan p1ing. Kuan p1ing was worth one dollar fifty
cents. Therefore converting 1200 taels into dollars would work out to be
$1800. This salary remained the same throughout the Ch'ing dynasty
to the early years of the Republic and as far as I can recall it remained
the same even under the Kuomintang rule until recent years.
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two grades of $800 and $600. But there never was any regulation governing
the amount of allowance which each office was to enjoy. Some of those
ministries which had a revenue of their own in the days of the Republic
minister, and the sometimes even the heads of the departments. There
the Ministry of Finance for their regular pay and expenses. In the
allowance. It depended upon the Minister himself but usually his enter
paid for by the Ministry, and of course he had his car and chauffeur.
the ministry, usually not passed officially but with the good offices of
happened when I was in the Foreign Ministry in the early years of the
Republic was that President Yuan at the festival time, either the
the end of the year, would send $1000 to the Minister as a sort of
in my time as secretary to him, at the end of the year, not during the
two festivals, he would send a month's salary specially for the New Year.
So I knew that the minister and the vice ministers each would get a
Office did not come under the regulations governing the organization
by the President and did not enjoy the same status: they were not
he was free to increase or reduce his own staff, and usually out of
were also unlimited in number. Thus his office was usually given
handed down from the days of the Ch'ing dynasty - would remit certain
something of how the taxes were collected ..and how tax collectors were
Peking. As I was in a hurry I took the bed with me on the train. When
of whom were farmers or poor people carrying bundles or produce from the
farm to get passed by the tax office. When my turn came I showed the
receipt for the amount I paid in Tientsin, and asked to pay the regular
tax for bringing the bed into the city. After calculating, the man
I saw there "Three percent plus one." I asked him for the printed
way was; he said I could work it out myself. So I did. First they
converted dollars into taels, then they collected the tax in taels.
He told me the rate was $1.35. Therefore $180 converted at the rate
of $1.35 per tael gave something like 140 taels. Three percent
$7.03, which was less than his sum. So I told him his calculation was
wrong.
"No, no," he said, "When you convert back into dollars, the rate
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is $1.50 per tael. That is the Customs rate." So $1.35 was the
market tael rate while $1.50 was the "Customs rate". I said the rate
should be uniform regardless of which rate they used, and asked who
was responsible.
right now."
who I was and I told him. I said I wanted to see the regulation and
find out on whose authority the extra one percent was added on. And I
asked on whose authority they used the two different standards, which,
instead of benefiting the taxpayer was only benefiting his own office.
wanted to use.
tioning of the Chinese tax bureau. When I went back to the Ministry
Chief of the General Affairs Section said: "You didn't have to bother
told him that was not the point. It was only one incident; but that
very discouraging.
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One person that came to see me was the very wealthy owner
factories made wooden boards from lumber for building. Another was a
goods from abroad for importation into Taiwan, it was necessary for
him to get a letter of credit to the seller, but he said in order to get
what the amount was. Meanwhile he would have to wait for a while, and
would not get any benefit from this interval. The letter of credit
tide over the interval of whatever it might be, from two to five months,
he could not employ the capital but he said the capital was required by
the Bank of Taiwan. What was more discouraging, he said, was that
when goods arrived they were not immediately cleared; it would depend
upon the leisure of the customs inspector. Often machinery and goods
would arrive and be left on the dock for days and weeks without even
getting the proper customs inspection. They not only tied up the
had got from the financial quarters. He said some of the goods were
perishable and yet stayed in the hot sun. I told him he should bring
and merchants were men of wealth and these inspectors, junior officials,
were poorly paid and they expected some sort of outside income. Now
that did not right away occur to me. It is all a matter of running the
accounted for.
Those were more or less open and known practices. Of course there
General's office in Seoul in Korea. When China was still Korea's su
Seoul. It still belonged to the. Chinese government and under the Re
sell this land and then with the money, or part of the money, to
buy a very respectable house, away from the center of the city, for the
to give a special sum in addition to the regular official price for the
extend the consular service and so forth - it would have been a blow to
the sentiment of the Chinese community in Korea. For the sake of our
prestige among the Korean people it was highly valuable. But the
A Japanese company, I think the Mitsui Company, and the Federal Wireless
the Navy in Peking and the Federal Wireless Company approached the
by both Japan and the United States; I thought not only for the sake
of prestige but also for the chance to make a start into wireless