Topic 8
Topic 8
Learning outcomes
By the end of this topic you will be able to:
Topic Checklist
In order to complete this topic you must:
From a lawyer’s view, law is man-made rules, and justice is whatever the law
says. The correct behaviour of a lawyer is governed by the set of rules known as
legal ethics.
However, most people do not think like lawyers. They might believe that the
correct behaviour of a lawyer is not just about following the rules of legal ethics.
Rather people might think that lawyers should adhere to broader or more abstract
concepts of professionalism such as acting honestly and with integrity.
None of these views are wrong. Law-makers, in making law, will often be
influenced by one or more of these views. But, what happens if you do not agree
with the law-makers?
Legally, from a positivist point of view, the answer is that you should obey
the law, or be prepared to accept the consequences of breaking the law. But if you
look at this question morally or ethically, there is no clear answer. This has been
debated in jurisprudence (or legal theory) for at least 2000 years. Some
philosophers think that there is only a duty to obey laws if they are good, and that
you can disobey laws if they are bad laws. But what is a good law? Or a bad
law? Because of these difficulties, and the potential damage that could be caused
to law and order if people could pick and choose which laws to follow, some
STUDY TASK 1
Go to www.google.com and do a search for moral obligation obey law (these are
the key search terms) and read at least one of the sources from the first page of
results
1. Do you think people have a moral obligation to obey the law even if
you think it is a bad law?
This involves ethical reasoning (you are trying to apply a moral standard to
people in general) so you may want to go back to topic 5 if you are not sure of
ethical reasoning.
STUDY TASK 2
The last part of this topic helps you to work through a critical analysis reasoning
process in deciding your position on a controversial law reform.
STUDY TASK 3
1
DJ Galligan, Law in Modern Society (2007) 131.
2
Ibid.
3
Thomas Ulen, ‘Rational Choice Theory in Law and Economics’ in Boudewijn Bouckaert and
Gerrit De Geest (eds) Encyclopedia of Law and Economics (2000) 790, 791.
4
Sung Ho Kim, ‘Max Weber’ in Edward N Zalta (ed),The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
(Fall 2008 Edition) http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/fall2008/entries/weber (Accessed 10
September 2011).
News stories indicate that unwanted pregnancy is a particular issue for young
mothers and unmarried women. For instance:
in 2013 it was reported that a student at Talua Bible College dumped her
new-born baby in a bush toilet. The baby died. (Godwin Ligo, ‘Student
Dumps Baby in Bush Toilet’ (Vanuatu Daily Post Online, 9 September
2013, http://www.dailypost.vu/content/student-dumps-baby-bush-toilet
link no longer active).
in 2010 it was reported that an 18 year old had killed her new-born baby.
The baby was the result of incest and two similar cases had also occurred
that year. (Colson Wari, ’18 year old mother faces court for killing baby’
(Vanuatu Daily Post Online, 19 November 2010,
http://www.dailypost.vu/content/18-yr-old-mother-faces-court-killing-
baby link no longer active).
in 2013 a project was set up in Port Vila to help with the increasing
problem of unwanted babies (Geraldine Coutts, ‘Vanuatu project to give
unwanted babies a second chance’ (Radio Australia, 19 July 2013,
http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/radio/program/pacific-
beat/vanuatu-project-to-give-unwanted-babies-a-second-
chance/1163586).
There are also many cases of infanticide in Vanuatu. See, for instance:
In 2014 the Vanuatu Family Health Association launched a study into the issue of
unsafe abortions and considers that there needs to be dialogue to reform the law.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-21/vanuatu-health-workers-
worried-about-increasing-abortion-rat/5533848
http://dailypost.vu/news/unsafe-abortion/article_9c5c4f12-c9d3-5810-
8cb3-ebc167bb0c16.html
STUDY TASK 4
2. What policy options do you think there are to responding to this option?
2. Does the Bill address the problem? What arguments for and against the
Bill are there?
a. Do you agree with the law or not?
b. Do some things need to change before you agree with the law? If
so, what?
3. Are all the words clear? Do they reflect what should be in the law?
a. Do some things need to change before you agree with the law? If
so, what should be changed?
Step 2: General
content
Step 3:
Specific
content
Opinions should be based on accurate facts and information and careful thinking.
STUDY TASK 5
1. Read the Bill for the Penal Code (Amendment) Act No. 1 of xxxx (on
moodle) Note: this is not a real Bill. I drafted it in 2013 for the Vanuatu
Youth Parliament.
2. What problem is the Bill trying to address?
3. Referring back to your answer for study task 4, do you agree this is a
problem? (step 1)
4. What problems for and against the general content of the Bill can you
identify? (step 2)
5. Are there any problems with the clarity of the language of the Bill? (step
3)
6. Having looked at the feedback and re-analysed the law, if you need to, are
you going to vote in support of the Bill?
Conclusion
Law, justice, morals, ethics – they are difficult concepts and all interrelated.
Clearly they affect our views of what the law is, what the content of the law
should be, and what ideal behaviour is. There are no right answers – but
hopefully you now have some broader perspectives to help with thinking
critically about issues. You also should have some frameworks to help you think
about issues. Hopefully you find this material interesting. Hopefully you also find
it challenging and thought-provoking. Hopefully it will also help you to be able
to contribute more fully to debates on legal developments in your country.
STUDY TASK 6
To practice thinking about issues of law, justice, morality, and legal policy in real
life you should be reading the newspaper.
1. Every day try to find one interesting news story that causes you to have a
moral reaction because you think it is unfair, or because you think it
shows good legal developments.
2. Then go back and analyse your immediate moral reaction using reason.
You might identify ethical principles that you think are being violated.
You might identify a particular policy problem in your country that you
think the law either is not dealing with, or is dealing with well.
3. Practice by writing your answers and sharing them on the assessed news
items forum. & practice by reading and commenting on other people’s
answers.
HINT: I cannot give you an exact framework for analyzing news stories because
they will all require different approaches. Sometimes you will find that you can
use IRAC in your reasoning. Sometimes IRAC will not fit. Remember, though, to
always try to look from different perspectives. Putting yourself into someone
else’s position (ie, imagining you are 19 year old girl with an unwanted
pregnancy when you are thinking about abortion) is always useful.
There are no right answers here. Just remember to try to look at this question
from different perspectives. Even if you think the question has one clear answer,
try to think what people who would disagree with your answer might argue. Then
identify ways to counter, or argue against, these arguments. You may also want
to try to apply IRAC:
Issue The issue is people have a moral obligation to obey the law even
if they think it is a bad law? (the question in the study task)
Rule(s) You should try to identify some general ethical principles here,
along with an indication of how you derived your ethical
principle. For instance you might say that:
Feedback 2
When I was admitted in New Zealand I had friends who were not immediately
admitted due to having criminal records or having been involved in political
agitation. However, once they worked for a couple of years with clean records
then they were admitted. In Australia one man had his admission delayed for 6
months because he had been caught plagiarising as a law student. The judge did
not want someone who had been caught acting dishonestly to become a lawyer
immediately.
Feedback 3
When you answer question 1 try not to jump to a moral conclusion. Instead try to
use IRAC to think about general ethical rules that you think could exist and then
develop an argument for which ethical rule you think should apply.
Feedback 4
This is a very controversial issue and there are no right answers. This table should
help you to think through step 3. Try reorganizing your arguments into a table
with pros and cons and see if it helps your reasoning to become more thorough,
or deeper, or more critical. Remember as a policy maker you need to be able to
look at the issue from all perspectives.