Step Up or Step Out
Step Up or Step Out
OR
EVEN IF YOU HATE CONFLICT
STEP OUT
WRITTEN BY
JONNO WHITE
C H A P T E R O N E
7 Introduction
C H A P T E R T W O
C H A P T E R T H R E E
C H A P T E R F O U R
C H A P T E R F I V E
C H A P T E R S I X
C H A P T E R S E V E N
T H E E N D
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“Jonno present s a re fre shin g pe rspe ct ive , no t ‘e art h-
shattering’ but re fre shing. I say t hat be cause t he bul k o f
what he achieve s is done by t he l ist e ne r an swe rin g his
questions. That’s right , Jon n o he l ps y o u answe r y o ur o wn
questions by asking more ! Who’d have t hought gaining
clarity came from asking t he right que st ion s, be cause we
mostly only ever spe nd our t im e se e king an swe rs. Jo n n o ’s
curiosity enable s him t o re ach t he he art o f t he pe rson
enabling them t o de fine t he ir own pat h.” An dre w Il e s -
Australia
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"It was important t o us t o asce rt ain how t he diffe re n t
stakeholders wit hin our S HCS co m munit y have
experienced the st rat e gic approach t o e ducat io n ado pt ed
by the School during t his COVID-1 9 pande mic. Jo n n o
White from Cl arit y. ..he l pe d us de vise surve y s t o gl e an t h e
most important impressions fro m o ur st aff t hrough a
SHCS Staff We l l be ing S urve y; our st ude nt s t hrough a
SHCS Student Remot e Learn ing Expe rie n ce S urve y, and
our families through S HCS Fam il y Re mo t e Le arn ing
Experience Surve y.
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“Jonno White was e ngaging and do wn t o e art h. His abil i t y
to instantly conne ct wit h o ur st aff and t he go al s of o u r
organisation proved most val uabl e . His down t o e art h
nature provide d an e xce l l e nt pl at fo rm fo r our st aff t o
openly share t he ir pe rsonal st ory an d provide d e n o ugh o f
a push to help our t e ams co n side r st e ps t o grow an d
improve.” Brendan Hosking - Aust ral ia
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“Genesis Christ ian Coll e ge woul d l ike t o ackno wl e dge t he
professionalism of Cl arit y and t he compe t e n t man n e r wi t h
which Jonno engaged wit h our S e nior Le ade rship t e am.
Our team appre ciat e d Jonno’s skil l in wo rkin g al o n gside
us and facilitat ing gre at e r l e ve l s o f cl arit y wit hin o ur
team. Jonno was fl e xibl e an d wil l in g t o acco m mo dat e t h e
needs of our Coll e ge and t ail ore d his appro ach t o suit.
Jonno has gre at skil l in wor king wit h individual s and
teams and I woul d have no he sit at io n in re com me nding
the services of Cl arit y t o othe r scho o l s and o rganisat i o n s . ”
Paul Sterling - G e nesis Christ ian Col l e ge
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NOITCUDORTNI
E N O R E T P A H C
I N T R O D U C T I O N
Take heart.
“ I T I S B O T H P O S S I B L E A N D R E M A R K A B L Y
S I M P L E . B U T I T ’ S P A I N F U L L Y D I F F I C U L T . ”
- P A T R I C K L E N C I O N I
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I won’t lie to you. De al ing wit h difficul t pe opl e is…
difficult. In fact , one of t he chapt e rs in t his bo o k is go i n g
to look at just why difficul t pe o pl e are so difficul t ! The
good news is that t he re ’s a re markabl y sim pl e pro ce ss yo u
can go through t hat makes it no t o n l y po ssibl e , but
probable, that you’l l be abl e t o ge t difficul t pe o pl e t o s t ep
up or step out.
And it works.
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Before I get to t he re marka bl y sim pl e pro ce ss - and t he
story of how I’ve se e n a l e ade r use it succe ssful l y - I w an t
to share a diffe re nt st ory. First , t his is a bit of m y st ory
about how I st art e d doing what I do at Cl arit y so yo u can
get to know me a bit be t t e r.
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YROTS YM
:ETIHW ONNOJ TEEM
O W T R E T P A H C
M E E T J O N N O W H I T E :
M Y S T O R Y
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I was lying down on t he ground wit h m y e y e s cl ose d
during a session whe re we had space fo r co n t e mpl at ion .
As I pondered e ve rything I was doing in m y l ife , I had n o
idea that in the next 1 0 minut e s I woul d have a l ife -
changing revel at ion t hat I' l l ne ve r fo rge t .
Clarity.
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So there I was in Mel bourn e , Aust ral ia, at t he l e ade rsh ip
intensive. I was six months in t o impl e me nt ing L e ncio n i ' s
principles of organisational he al t h an d I was l ovin g ev ery
minute of it. We we re buil din g a cohe sive l e ade rship t eam
and we finally had cl arit y aro und t he visio n , co re
behaviours, strate gic anchors an d prio rit ie s! Al l of a
sudden though, as I l ay t he re , I saw my l ife 30 ye ars d o wn
the track.
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A great organisat ion is l e d by a po int l e ade r and
leadership team who know an d l ive out t he vision , co r e
behaviours and st rat e gic an cho rs o f t he o rganisat ion an d
are courageous e nough t o e mbrace sho rt t e rm pain in
exchange for long t e rm progre ss.
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So that’s me. I’m t hankful t o have t he oppo rt un it y t o
invest in you as you se e k t o de al wit h difficul t pe o pl e
even if you hat e confl ict . No w it ’s t im e for ano t he r st o ry.
This next story is how a l e ade r I kno w spe ct acul arl y
stuffed up in this are a and hurt a l ot o f pe opl e . It ’s a st o r y
that I share hoping you’l l se e t hat yo u’re n o t al o n e wit h
the challenges you’re e xpe rie n cin g an d hoping t hat y o u
might learn from it and avoid t he he art ache she
experienced.
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OD OT TON TAHW
:YROTS S’EUQINOM
E E R H T R E T P A H C
M O N I Q U E ' S S T O R Y :
W H A T N O T T O D O
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As a leader whe n Monique t o o k o n t his ro l e , she naivel y
assumed that if she just co n t inue d t o grow in he r
communication skil l s, curricul um an d pe dagogy st rat egy,
learning to care for st aff, pare nt s and yo ung pe opl e a s t he
head of school and more , t hat al l 1 50 st aff wo ul d ‘just
follow her’. A fe w months in t o t aking o ve r t his rol e
Monique had a biiiiiig l e arning curve . One day she had an
epiphony, “Wait a se cond, I have al l t he se awe so me
people on my t e am but I have n o ide a how t o ge t t he m al l
rowing in the same dire ct io n !” This might se e m o bviou s t o
you, but this was an e piphan y t o Mo n ique .
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Jack was proving more and m o re difficul t an d al t houg h he
seemed to have a high capacit y an d was doing incre dibl e
things in other are as of his l ife , Mo n ique wasn’t givin g
him clear exp e ct at ions and t he re was a l ot o f t e nsio n
between her and Jack and she didn’t kno w what t o do .
The next day Monique was livid. S he was sick and t ire d of
Jack’s attitud e and t he way he just bl e w o ff t he e xe c
meeting for a pare nt issue t he day be fo re had be e n t h e
straw that broke t he camel ’s back. It wasn ’t t he first t i me
he’d missed a mee t ing, and it st ung part icul arl y badl y
because of the import ance o f t he con t e nt Mo n ique had
covered about vision, val ue s an d cul t ure .
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9am arrived and we nt. At 9:1 0am, Jack fin al l y wan de red
into her office and apologi se d fo r runn ing l at e . “S orry,
crazy morning, coupl e of st aff o ff sick t oday who cal l e d in
at 8:45am. What’s t his about Mo n ique ?”
2 2
Does Monique’s st ory soun d fam il iar? Do yo u t hink J ac k
needed to finish up? The hard t hing about st o rie s l ike t h is
is often the answe r is: Ye s. Ho we ve r, do yo u t hink t he way
Monique lead t he proce ss was he l pful ? Abso l ut e l y n o t !
When leaders l ike Monique l e ad l ike s t his, it t ake s year s -
YEARS - for some of the hurt to heal and t o be hone st
there’s probably some hurt t hat st il l hasn’t he al e d fo r
people involve d. Eve n t hough Monique has l e arned fro m
this experience and t ake s ful l re spo n sibil it y fo r what
happened, it’s my hope t hat so m e t hing as t e rribl e as
Monique’s expe rie nce can be a l e sso n t o o t he r l e ade rs .
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RETSASID ROF
EPICER EHT :MELBORP
R U O F R E T P A H C
P R O B L E M : T H E R E C I P E
F O R D I S A S T E R
So why exactly is t his such a pre val e n t issue for l e ade rs?
And for that mat t e r, for pe o pl e in e ve ry wal k o f l ife wit h
their family, frie nd s and st ake hol de rs out side o f t he i r
organisations ?
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I N G R E D I E N T O N E : U N C L E A R E X P E C T A T I O N S
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I N G R E D I E N T T W O : B I G O N E - O F F B A T T L E S
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If you’re not s e e ing it yet , we ’re se t t in g o urse l ve s up at
this point for a mega war whe re t wo side s are about to
hit. We set a date and a t ime wit h t he pe rso n invol ve d an d
we go and try t o find a book on how t o do a difficul t
conversation we l l (maybe t hat ’s whe re y o u’re at right
now!).
I N G R E D I E N T T H R E E : T H E E L E M E N T
O F S U R P R I S E
The next hour is a t rain wre ck. Yo ur care ful l y l aid out pl an
for this crucial conve rsat io n isn ’t se e ming t o be re ce ived
well by the pe rson on t he ot he r e n d. The y are ge t t in g
super defensive and you are just t ry ing t o ke e p it cal m.
What’s gone wrong? We l l , y o ur assumpt ion t hat t he y kn ew
their behaviour was dysfun ct io n al was pro babl y wron g.
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?TLUCIFFID …OS
ELPOEP TLUCIFFID ERA
YHW :TNEIDERGNI TERCES
E V I F R E T P A H C
S E C R E T I N G R E D I E N T :
W H Y A R E D I F F I C U L T
P E O P L E S O . . . D I F F I C U L T ?
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Unrealistic expe ct at ions me ans anyo n e e l se in t he ir
situation woul d re al ise normal l y t hat t he y wo ul d ne e d t o
do ‘x’ or ‘y’ in t his role , or t hat be in g o n t ime is a no n -
negotiable. What e ve r it is, whe n yo u he ar t he ir
explanation, you scrat ch your he ad. This is such a pro bl em
- and it’s the fourt h se cre t ingre die n t - be cause it bl ows
all three of th e othe r ingredie nt s in t o m uch bigge r
problems. Try cl arifying e xpe ct at io n s wit h so me on e w h o
lives with unre al ist ic e xpe ct at io n s!
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SKEEW RUOF NIHTIW
TUO PETS RO PU PETS OT
ELPOEP TLUCIFFID TEG OT
SEGATS EERHT :NOITULOS
X I S R E T P A H C
S O L U T I O N : T H R E E S T A G E S
T O G E T D I F F I C U L T P E O P L E
T O S T E P U P O R S T E P O U T
W I T H I N F O U R W E E K S
I F Y O U D O T H I S P R O C E S S T O T H E
L E T T E R , 9 5 % O F D I F F I C U L T P E O P L E
W I L L S E L F - D E T E R M I N E T O S T E P U P O R
S T E P O U T W I T H I N F O U R W E E K S .
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Are you ready t o find out what y o u ne e d t o do ? It ’s n o t a
hoax, I promis e ! In t he next chapt e r I’l l t e l l t he st ory o f a
leader I know who use d t his e xact pro ce ss an d saw it wo rk
within four we e ks. It ’s prove n. It works. And it can wo r k
for you. Here are t he t hre e st age s.
S T A G E O N E : H O W C L E A R A R E Y O U R
E X P E C T A T I O N S ?
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Second, give a score out of 1 0 fo r, “(In se rt difficul t
person) is 100% cl e ar on t he e xpe ct at ion s I have fo r
(insert difficult pe rson) in t he ir rol e .” What woul d y o u
give them out of 1 0 for how cl e ar t he y are o n t he
expectations t hat you have fo r t he m in t he ir rol e ? Thi s i s a
tricky one because you’re put t in g yo urse l f in t he ir sho es .
Recently, I had a gre at l e ade r co mm e nt t hat t he y mig h t
just go and ask t he pe rson t he y we re l e ading how cl e ar
they felt they we re on t he ir l e ade r’s e xpe ct at ion s. L o ve i t !
D O N O T P R O G R E S S T O A N Y B A T T L E S O R
A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y U N T I L B O T H O F T H E S E
S C O R E S A R E A B O V E A 7 / 1 0 A N D ,
P R E F E R A B L Y , A R E A 9 / 1 0 O R A 1 0 / 1 0 .
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S T A G E T W O : R E - C L A R I F Y O R C H A N G E Y O U R
E X P E C T A T I O N S
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Just the process of re -cl arifying e xpe ct at ion s me ant t hat
the person got cl e ar on what was e xpe ct e d o f t he m an d
was able to decide , “No, t his isn’t for me . I can’t do t h is . ”
They were then abl e t o pl an t o ge t he r fo r a he al t hy
transition out for t hat pe rso n which me ant e ve ryo n e w o n
instead of eve ryone l osing.
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One other thi ng for you t o do in st age t wo t o se t yo ursel f
up for a win in st age t hre e is t o se t cl e ar e xpe ct at io n s fo r
how you’ll hold t his pe rson acco unt abl e . Le t t he m kn o w
you want to be t he be st l e ade r yo u can be an d t hat mean s
being vulnerabl e e nough t o l e t t he m kn o w if and whe n
you see them not mee t ing t he se e xpe ct at ion s. It ’s
amazing how open pe ople are t o t his whe n yo u’ve go n e
through the proce ss t oget he r of re -cl arifying o r changi n g
expectations. Once again, y o u’re cho o sin g t o st art o ff
again where bot h of you are quit e ho pe ful an d happy an d
to use that found at ion as a basis for gre at account abil it y
rather than naive l y assumi n g she ’l l be right .
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S T A G E T H R E E : P I C K S M A L L B A T T L E S A N D
N O S U R P R I S E S
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The massive, be aut iful , wo n de rful , fan t ast ic be ne fit fo r
all of us who hat e confl ict is t hat t he se smal l bat t l e s a re
uncomfortabl e but t he y’re n o t disast ro us an d de vast at in g
like the one-off big bat t l e s! Isn ’t t hat gre at n e ws?
Stop.
Turn around.
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It’s at this poi nt t hat se t t ing t he e xpe ct at ion o f
accountability at t he e nd o f st age t wo be come s so
powerful. That ’s what you l e ad wit h! “He y Bo b, I promi s ed
I’d mention it whe n I saw so m e t hing t hat wasn ’t what we
articulated toge t he r. I not ice d t oday yo u we re l at e t o t he
meeting, I need you t o be t he re on t ime pl e ase .”
Surprise.
4 4
Sometimes this moment of picking a smal l bat t l e is abo u t
getting on the same page so t he y’re no t surprise d ne xt
time but I’ve expe rie nce d whe re ve r so m e on e ’s surpris ed
there’s usually room for more cl arit y around t he
expectations.
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To summarise t he solut ion:
Stage one: How cl e ar are your e xpe ct at ion s for t his pers o n
in their role?
Give yourself a score /1 0 fo r ho w cl e ar y o u are on yo ur
expectations for t he m in t he ir ro l e
Give them a score /1 0 for how cl e ar y o u t hink t he y are
on your expect at ions for t he m in t he ir rol e
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Stage three: Pick small bat t l e s and n o surprise s
Pick small batt l e s. Again, and again, and again, and
again
Are they ever surprise d? If so , go back t o st age o n e and
stage two
Commit to doing t his over fo ur we e ks and cal l t he m o n
it every time
Focus on the things t hat are n o n -ne got iabl e fro m yo u r
conversations about e xpe ct at io n s in cl uding t he val ues
of your organisat ion ‘bott om l ine ’ be haviours for
employees or volunte e rs
Start your small bat t l e s by re m inding t he m yo u
promised you’d hold t he m acco unt abl e
Use FBI from S imon S inek t o ke e p t he m acco unt abl e -
Feeling - Behaviour - Impact
95% of the time t he y’ll st e p up o r st e p out wit hin fo ur
weeks
5% of the time you’l l st il l have t o have a big bat t l e bu t
it will be 100x e asie r be cause it wil l be e xpe ct e d
rather than a compl e t e surprise
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EFIL LAER NI ESIMORP
KEEW RUOF EHT
:YROTS S’ECINAJ
N E V E S R E T P A H C
J A N I C E ’ S S T O R Y : T H E
F O U R W E E K P R O M I S E I N
R E A L L I F E
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Instead of all se ve n pse udo re po rt in g go t J an ice which
had become unt e nabl e , onl y Re ann o n wo ul d re port t o
Janice and the othe r six woul d re port t o Re ann o n .
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At the end of t he day, t he t e am t hat t he e ve n t was mo s t
closely relate d t o was t he sal e s t e am . The who l e purp o se
of the event was t o ge nerat e l e ads fo r t he co m pan y an d
Janice assume d Reannon’s t e am wo ul d jump o n board an d
get involved even more t han e ve ryo n e e l se be cause t his
was such a crucial part of t he ir are a. Ho we ve r, an hou r
into setting up and wal king around wit h Ade l e an d J am ie,
Janice noticed Reannon st il l hadn ’t arrive d an d n e it he r
had two of th e othe r six sal e s pe o pl e .
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The rest of the e ve nt we nt o kay but J an ice co ul dn’t st o p
thinking about he r conve rsat ion wit h t he prospe ct ive
customer and Ralph. S he had a sicke ning fe e l ing. This
wasn’t an issue wit h Ralph, t his was just a sympt o m - yet
another symp t om - of a sickn e ss in t hat sal e s t e am t h at
had been growing e ve r since she ’d han de d it o ve r t o
Reannon.
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Things like how she wante d t he sal e s t e am t o spe ak wel l
of competitors rat he r t han po o rl y . The ide a of cre at in g a
positive environme nt t hat me ant t he sal e s t e am we re
pumped and e ncouraging t o o n e ano t he r and t o t he re s t o f
the business as l e ade rs in t he l e ad ge n e rat ion space .
5 3
They didn’t see m part icul arl y happy t o be cal l e d o n it bu t
Janice experie nce d more awkwardn e ss whe n she so ugh t
out Reannon an hour or so l at e r.
Reannon didn’t l ook part icul arl y happy but she no dded
she understood and Janice go t o ut of t he re as quickl y as
she could.
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Rinse and rep e at for t he fol l o wing t hre e we e ks and J an ic e
felt like she’d had 1 00 conve rsat io n s wit h R e ann o n . It h ad
probably only be e n t e n but fo r t he past coupl e she ’d
nearly… almost t urned around an d chicke ne d out . But
she’d followe d t he proce ss and e nde d up go ing t he re an d,
although frus t rat e d and e ve n a bit rude a co upl e o f t i mes ,
there was no massive bl ow up wit h R e ann o n .
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SLAINOMITSET EMOS
ERA EREH - TSEB EHT LLA
!GNIDAER ROF SKNAHT
D N E E H T
T E S T I M O N I A L S
5 7
“Jonno present s a re fre shin g pe rspe ct ive , no t ‘e art h-
shattering’ but re fre shing. I say t hat be cause t he bul k o f
what he achieve s is done by t he l ist e ne r an swe rin g his
questions. That’s right , Jon n o he l ps y o u answe r y o ur o wn
questions by asking more ! Who’d have t hought gaining
clarity came from asking t he right que st ion s, be cause we
mostly only ever spe nd our t im e se e king an swe rs. Jo n n o ’s
curiosity enable s him t o re ach t he he art o f t he pe rson
enabling them t o de fine t he ir own pat h.” An dre w Il e s -
Australia
5 8
"It was important t o us t o asce rt ain how t he diffe re n t
stakeholders wit hin our S HCS co m munit y have
experienced the st rat e gic approach t o e ducat io n ado pt ed
by the School during t his COVID-1 9 pande mic. Jo n n o
White from Cl arit y. ..he l pe d us de vise surve y s t o gl e an t h e
most important impressions fro m o ur st aff t hrough a
SHCS Staff We l l be ing S urve y; our st ude nt s t hrough a
SHCS Student Remot e Learn ing Expe rie n ce S urve y, and
our families through S HCS Fam il y Re mo t e Le arn ing
Experience Surve y.
5 9
“Jonno White was e ngaging and do wn t o e art h. His abil i t y
to instantly conne ct wit h o ur st aff and t he go al s of o u r
organisation proved most val uabl e . His down t o e art h
nature provide d an e xce l l e nt pl at fo rm fo r our st aff t o
openly share t he ir pe rsonal st ory an d provide d e n o ugh o f
a push to help our t e ams co n side r st e ps t o grow an d
improve.” Brendan Hosking - Aust ral ia
6 0
“Genesis Christ ian Coll e ge woul d l ike t o ackno wl e dge t he
professionalism of Cl arit y and t he compe t e n t man n e r wi t h
which Jonno engaged wit h our S e nior Le ade rship t e am.
Our team appre ciat e d Jonno’s skil l in wo rkin g al o n gside
us and facilitat ing gre at e r l e ve l s o f cl arit y wit hin o ur
team. Jonno was fl e xibl e an d wil l in g t o acco m mo dat e t h e
needs of our Coll e ge and t ail ore d his appro ach t o suit.
Jonno has gre at skil l in wor king wit h individual s and
teams and I woul d have no he sit at io n in re com me nding
the services of Cl arit y t o othe r scho o l s and o rganisat i o n s . ”
Paul Sterling - G e nesis Christ ian Col l e ge
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