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Vid 1

The following program contains graphic images and language. Viewer discretion is advised. On Sunday,
June 12, 1994, the temperature in Los Angeles will get up to 77 degrees. NBA fans will watch on TV as
the Houston Rockets win Game 3 of the NBA Finals beating the New York Knicks 93 to 89. Gas at the
pump is $1.9 and the stock market stands at 3,783.

On the morning of that day, two people with a long-wrenching history of domestic violence wake up in
Los Angeles. Though divorced, they've talked about getting back together. On this day, one of them is not
ready to let go. The other is committed to moving on. What they can't know is that a forgotten pair of
glasses will thrust a third person into their lives on this day.

In the end, the result of that encounter will be devastating. To them, to their families. And it leads to a
trial that becomes a national obsession, a trial that underscores the racial divide in this country. O.J.
Simpson was acquitted of the brutal double murders of his ex-wife Nicole Brown and her friend Ron
Goldman.

The verdict exposed deep racial divisions in this country that still exist today. Over the years, many have
tried to explain the Simpson case. But we at court TV believe the best explanation of what actually
happened is the trial itself. I'm Roger Cossack, and this is O.J. 25.

From the beginning, it is referred to as the trial of the century. The people's case, O.J. Simpson killed his
ex-wife Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. The timeline works. The evidence is clear. The defense, Simpson
has been framed. Investigators were incompetent, biased, and rushed to judgment in a way that
underscores a history of systemic problems within the LAPD. But before there are attorneys, before any
courtroom moments, and before any of the nonstop news coverage, there's a story of murder. Two
victims brutally killed on the night of June 12, 1994.

Their bodies are discovered on the walkway leading up to Nicole's condo in Brentwood. The crime
itself was about as horrific as you can imagine. There was so much blood. You have to remember that
Nicole was nearly decapitated and blood out on the sidewalk. Ron was stabbed a couple of dozen
times, and there was lots of blood. And it was a very small area, and there were two little kids. There
were little kids. Her little kids sleeping upstairs. The brutal murders occur in the upscale Brentwood
neighborhood of Los Angeles. A safe place where wealthy people live, with manicured lawns and a
sense of security and quiet. Where it happened in Brentwood was a very safe community.

I mean, you don't expect anything like that to happen there. People always say that never happens here.
That's what people would say about Brentwood. During that June night while watching the 10 o'clock
news, one of Nicole's neighbors hears a barking dog whaling as if sounding an alarm. Another neighbor
decides to take the lost dog for a walk and is led to the bodies of Nicole and Ron. During that same
night of June 12, OJ Simpson is picked up by a limo at his home on Rockingham Avenue. He takes the
red eye to Chicago for a business trip. Shortly after he arrives, the LAPD call OJ and tells him that Nicole
has been killed and asks him to come back. They had seen a trail of blood at his house, and when they
learned that Simpson is unharmed, they suspect he may have been involved in the murders.

He returns to LA immediately. The police waiting for him at his home. He was briefly handcuffed when
he was talking to police and a camera crew that had made their way around to the other part of the
property, captured it. Meanwhile, the families of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman are coming to grips
with the sudden and awful loss of their loved ones.

-Interview of documentary not case-


Tanya brown (nicole brown simpson’s sister) - First and foremost, Nicole was involved in her children's
lives. Nicole was like a hands-on mom.

Fred goldman (ron goldman’s father) She looked glamorous. She was beautiful. She was vibrant. She was
full of life. Ron was amazing. From the, practically, the day he was born, always an amazing young man.
Always kind, always thoughtful. He was Kim's brother and best friend forever.

Kim goldman (ron golman’s sister) - My brother was coming into his own at 25 years old. The closeness
that we shared was undeniable in that feeling of knowing that you always had someone that has your
back. And that didn't change the older we got. And obviously the last act of his life proved that my
brother and his soul was a protector.

Date: June 17, 1994


Gil Garcetti (los angeles district attorney) - Today, my office filed murder charges against O.J. Simpson.

Simpson agrees to turn himself in. But he never shows when he didn't show up. And then Robert
Kardashian, his friend, reads this letter.

Rober Khardashian (friend of OJ) - I think of my life and feel I've done most of the right things. So why
do I end up like this? I can't go on.

Dave Gascon (Lapd - commanderr in charge of media relations) - The Los Angeles Police Department
right now is actively searching for Mr. Simpson.

It's like when the space shuttle challenger blew up or when the twin towers were hit. You know where
you were when that happened. It wasn't a chase in a traditional sense. It was O.J. Simpson reportedly in
the back seat of a Bronco with a gun to his head. And you'd see people lining the overpasses, go, O.J. Go.
That type of thing, homemade signs. Because at this point, O.J. Simpson was still beloved, right? Nobody
could believe that he would be a killer. It just didn't seem to make sense.

Dave Gascon (Lapd - commanderr in charge of media relations) - Mr. Simpson is a wanted murder
suspect, two counts of murder, a terrible crime.

Robert Shapiro (lawyer of OJ) -O.J., wherever you are or the sake of your family, or the sake of your
children, please surrender immediately.

Simpson eventually surrenders to police and is taken into custody. At the time of his arrest, O.J. Simpson
is 46 years old. A legendary Heisman Trophy winner, a pro football hall of famer, a star with movie and TV
fame. He is pioneered American advertising as one of the first African Americans to be a spokesperson
for a major company. But now, he's a celebrity behind bars.

FACT: When they meet in 1977, 30-year-old O.J. is married and Nicole is just 18 years old. They have two
children during their seven-year marriage.
-Interview of documentary not case-
Bruce Fromong (OJ’s friend) -They were very much in love. I mean, they loved each other. They were
husband, wife. They did. You know, they traveled together. It was for a long time a very good family unit.

But what looks like an ideal marriage is actually a toxic relationship filled with violence.

Evidence of a phone call:


Dispatcher: Nicole, you still on the line? Yeah. You think you still are going to hit you? I don't know. You
can leave. You just let that just that he ain't, please.

Alan Dershowitz (oj’s defense team) - He looked me in the eye and he said, how can anybody think I'm
guilty? And I said, O.J., everybody thinks you're guilty. The end of the story.

Fact: Alan Dershowitz is just one of a remarkable lineup of top-tier high-profile lawyers brought in from
around the country by Robert Shapiro to defend O.J. Simpson, the honor of this time we would request
under the law that we have a good hearing as soon as possible.

Documentary person:
I knew Johnny Cochran, and I knew Robert Shapiro from our days as undergrads at UCLA. I'd worked for
the LA County DA's office and knew several of the prosecutors. After Simpson's arrest, Robert Shapiro
asked me to attend a meeting. Almost every top criminal lawyer in Los Angeles was there. I remember
Shapiro standing in front of us saying, we intend to win this case, there will be no plea bargain. None of
us thought he had a chance. During the 37 weeks of the trial, I was occasionally made privy to defense
strategies and insights that I've never talked about publicly. For example, one thing I feel has never been
made clear enough is how Robert Shapiro put his own ego on hold and stepped back from the limelight
in the interest of his client, something for which he has never been given full credit.

The legal horse power of the dream team brings into focus the role of celebrity in the Simpson case, not
just the fame of the defendant, but the legal resources he is able to afford. During the preliminary
hearing and pretrial arguments, it becomes apparent that the prosecution is overmatched and
outmaneuvered at almost every turn by the defense.

For example, Mark Furman. He is a central figure in making the case for the prosecution as the
investigator who says he found a bloody glove at the murder scene and another at O.J. Simpson's house.

Mark Furman (WITNESS testimony) - As I walked closer and I got oriented to where this noise probably
came from, I looked down and I saw a dark object. I was probably still 15, 20 feet away and I kept walking
closer and then I saw when I was a few feet away that it was a glove.

William Hodgman (Co-lead prosecutor) - Initially and at the time, I felt Mark Furman was a good cop
and I thought he intuitively did some things particularly rocking him which were the hallmark of a good
cop.

Mark fuhrman (former los angeles police detective) -It's just business as usual. They made it something
else that started ruining my life.
Documentary person:
But to underscore how the prosecution is overwhelmed by the dream team, listen to how Eiffely Bailey
turns Furman's history into something that makes the case for the defense. That O.J. Simpson has been
framed.

F. Lee Bailee (oj’s defense atty; atty rebutting furman) - Once Furman hits the stand where I'm able to
ask him, don't you hate black people and haven't you said so on many occasions and particularly this
occasion after you learn that this defendant had a romantic entanglement with a Caucasian woman. If
the only evidence you have that this glove came from O.J. Simpson's home is Detective Mark Furman.
That isn't enough evidence to convict a rat, let alone a human being. In addition to that, we have told
you in our papers and perhaps for the first time that Detective Furman then went on within hours to
suppress vital evidence tending to exculpate the defendant. So if he suppressed evidence and claimed to
find incriminating evidence, I think we hardly need go further. Before we have the right to ask him and by
the way, haven't you said on past occasions that you are in favor of genocide? Because what he really
said was, let's put him all on a pile and burn them all. And I haven't heard that come from anyone since
Adolf Hitler.

- The truth is that those are the facts.


- That is exactly 180 degrees opposite of the truth.
- But you don't want to hear the truth.
- So this is false?
- I don't have to call anybody a liar. It's the opposite of what occurred.
- That's the problem with them.
- They always want to label everybody.
- Which we know is not true.
- We keep hearing about the truth.
- Very misleading.
- I don't think they can stand the truth.
- Again, completely misleading.

They are in for the fight of their lives.

All right, that both sides prepared to go forward, Mr. Cacklin. We are here. Mr. Clark. Yes, we are here. All
right, do the people wish to make an opening statement? Yes, we do. Thank you. All right, you may
proceed. Mr. Darden.

Christopher darden (prosecutor) - Did O.J. Simpson really kill Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman? The
evidence was shown that the answer to the question is yes. O.J. Simpson murdered Nicole Brown and
Ronald Goldman. Why would he do it? Why would he do it? Not O.J. Simpson. Not the O.J. Simpson. We
think we know.

O.J. Simpson was beloved at the time. He was an icon, a hero.

Christopher darden (prosecutor) - But that raises another question. And that question is, do you know
O.J. Simpson? The face you'll see will be the face of a batterer, a wife-beater, an abuser, a controller. He
killed her because he couldn't have her. And if he couldn't have her, he didn't want anybody else to have
her. So you're going to be hearing evidence regarding domestic abuse, domestic violence, stalking,
intimidation, physical abuse, wife-beating, public humiliation. The dominant theme throughout their
relationship was his control. Of Nicole Brown. And the evidence will show in this case that this man is
an extremely possessive and controlling individual. This is all part of his need to know where she is, to
know what she's with, to know what she's doing, to control her. It's control. It's all about control. You'll
be hearing evidence regarding an incident that happened on January 1, 1989. The 911 operator who
seemed to telephone call from Rocky Ham. We can hear the sound of a woman being beaten now,
right now. And the officers arrived at Rocky Ham, a short time later. And as she ran toward the officer,
she was shouting and yelling, he's going to kill me. He's going to kill me. And the officer said, who, who's
going to kill you? And she said, OJ is going to kill me. And the officer said, Mr. Simpson, we're going to
have to place you under arrest. It appears that your wife has been beaten. And he responded, the police
have been here eight times before. And now, are you going to arrest me for this?

-Interview of documentary not case-


Denise brown (nicole’s sister) From Denise Brown, Nicole Brown-Simpson's sister: She would tell me she
goes to an A.C. You know what? He's going to kill me one day and he's going to get away with it.

Finally, after 17 years, he finally got the message. It finally became clear that she wanted to live her own
life.

-facts about darden prosecutor-


Christopher Darden grows up just north of San Francisco. He plays high school football and runs track in
college. He joins the LA District Attorney's Office in 1980, working in the gangs unit, and then special
investigations, which oversees cases of criminal activity by public officials and law enforcement. He's 38
years old, with 15 years experience as a prosecutor when he joins the Simpson prosecution team.

(reporter) - The thing that I remember most about Chris is just how frustrated he would get and how
personally he took the trial.

Fred goldman (ron’s dad) -I like Chris. I thought that he was busting his tail on a day-to-day basis.

Christopher darden (prosecutor) - think it's fair to say that I have the toughest job in town today.

Chris Darden was accused of being put on this team because he was African-American, not because he's
a good lawyer.

Darnel hun (professor, sociology & african-american studies, ucla) Chris Darden, it was a very difficult
place to be for someone like him, you know, helped the prosecution develop credibility with the Black
community and the Black jurors. It puts him in a very uncomfortable position because he's sort of on the
other team so to speak.

Fred goldman (ron’s dad) - It wasn't about anything except who committed a double murder. That's what
it was about. It wasn't about race.

Kim goldman - He was completely closed off, totally cold and unwelcoming, brooding, and then as the
trial moved on, Chris softened and opened his heart deeper to my dad and I and our family. Chris and I
are still super good friends.

Christopher darden (prosecutor) - What we've been seeing ladies and gentlemen is the public face, the
public persona. It is not the actor who is on trial here today, ladies and gentlemen. It is not that public
face. It is his other face. The one in the cold brown encountered during the last moments of her adult
life.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - And there he saw a sight that he'll never forget. He saw the body of
Nicole Brown lying at the foot of the steps in a pool of blood. What I'm showing you here is a heel print
again. Right here, a bloody heel print. And another one here. What you see here is what officers RISKI
and Terasa saw when they arrived at the scene. You can see here the paw prints. Officer RISKI went all
the way up to the end of the walkway in the bushes to where to a point where he was able to see at that
point that it was not just Nicole, but also Ron.

Sister of ron goldman - There was an image that was projected on the screen of my brother's body that I
had never seen before. And I remember feeling panic because I didn't know I'd never seen it. I didn't
know what to expect. And then Marsha turned around very quickly and apologized.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - We did warn you ladies and gentlemen that this is a case that was
going to have photographs of the very, very hard to look at. We have to show you the evidence and I
apologize for the graphic nature of them, but this is the crime that we're here to examine. No one will
argue about what the cause of death was for Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown.

Note: central to the prosecution’s case was DNA evidence. Maria Clark introduces that t the jury as her
opening statement continues.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - This is the blood drops at the Bundy location at 875 South Bundy.
This blood drop that you see here matches the defendant. Matches the defendant. Matches the
defendant. Matches the defendant. Matches the defendant. You analyze the DNA and you see, can I
exclude the suspect? Can I rule him out? Is there anything here inconsistent with the suspect? The glove
that was found at the South walkway of the defendant's property at Rockingham revealed blood that
was consistent with a mixture of Ron Goldman, Nicole Brown, and the defendant. Over and over again
we asked ourselves can the defendant be excluded? And over and over and over again the answer was
no. The defendant cannot be excluded.

-facts about marsha prosecutor-


Marsha Clark grows up outside Oakland, California. At 17, she is attacked and raped, something she later
says influenced her decision to become a prosecutor. After law school she works briefly as a defense
attorney before joining the L.A. District Attorney's Office in 1981. By the time she takes on the Simpson
case she has won 19 of 20 murder trials.

Other people in the documentary


- Tough lawyer, very able, very prepared, very, very able.
- Johnny Carcron was talking to jurors and Marsha Clark was talking atgers.
- Marsha Clark was somebody who thought she knew everything and she was arrogant and
overconfident.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - I can only reiterate that. No, you don't need to reiterate if I've
already heard it. I apologize to the court. I thought that...
Court: I mean I can't keep doing these things over and over and over again.
Other people in the documentary
She was, I would say, a Tigress as a trial attorney. She had taken on tough cases under adverse
circumstances and held up and prevailed. She was very facile with trace evidence cases, hair fiber, DNA
and the like.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - The mere fact that we find blood where there should be no blood.
In the defendant's car, in his house, in the driveway, and even on the socks in his very bedroom, at the
foot of his bed, that trail of blood from Bundy through his own Ford Bronco and into his house and
Rockingham is devastating proof of his guilt. And the results of the analysis of that blood confirms what
the rest of the evidence will show. That on June the 12th, 1994, after a violent relationship in which the
defendant beat her, he humiliated her and controlled her. After he took her youth, her freedom and her
self-respect, just as she tried to break free. Orinthal James Simpson took her very life in what amounted
to his final and his ultimate act of control. And in that final and terrible act, Ronald Goldman, an innocent
bystander, was viciously and senselessly murdered.

-news person-
As the first week of the trial unfolds, Johnny Cochran gives the opening statement for the defense. O.J.
Simpson's lead attorney tells the jury the central themes of their case. Sloppy police work and a rush to
judgment.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - The opening statement is not opening argument, but it's just
that opening statement. If you've had occasion to go to a movie, you know that there's something called
the Previews of Coming Attractions. And that's what this is supposed to be. It's supposed to be a guide.
Our road map, if you will, what we expect the evidence to show.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - And here we are now in this search for justice. You hear a lot
about this talk about justice.

- His firm at that time was all civil rights, police, misconduct work, all civil litigation, no criminal.
- Johnny Cochran, of course, had a tremendous appeal as a trial lawyer, particularly within the
African American community.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - I guess Dr. Martin Luther King said it best when he said that
injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. And so we are now embarked upon this search for
justice, this search for truth.

-facts about johnnie oj’s defense lawyer-


We're going from California back to the south. I wanted to go to this bathroom and I wasn't mindful of
any of you, you know, blacks go one place, white school, another. And so I was going to go in this
bathroom and as I said, you can't go in there, boy. That let me know there was a problem and I
remember talking to my dad about that. Now I was troubled by that and again, I just reinforced my belief
and my, the things should change and my desire to change things. My whole career has been trying to
represent people who need to be represented, who civil rights have been violated.
-documentary person-
Johnny Cochran understands that on the heels of the Rodney King beating by Los Angeles police officers
and the subsequent trial, the riots are a symptom of something bigger. LA is engulfed with tension torn
apart by racial animus and policed by a department many fear instead of trust.

As a city, we were still really raw, we were still really feeling that pain that had just happened.

I knew Johnny Cochran for years as a friend and as a brilliant litigator who specialized in civil rights cases
and believed strongly in the presumption of innocence. What most people didn't know was that Johnny's
standard approach was to put the evidence on trial, questioning the investigator's professionalism and
their motives. As Johnny told me one night at dinner, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - Let me try to set the record straight for you. This glove was not
found by them or the officers or whatever. This glove was found by Detective Furman.

The defense strategy was, you can't trust the message if you can't trust the messenger.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - Detective Mark Furman will play an integral part in this case for
a number of reasons. Now it's very interesting that the prosecution never once mentioned his name
yesterday. It's like they just want to hide him, but they can't hide him. He's very much a part of this case.
You can only ask ourselves, why didn't they mention him? I think that answer will become very clear to
you as the case progresses.

- We proved that there was a rush to judgment, that the messengers were the LAPD, that they
had made up their mind about who did this. It didn't matter what the world thought, matter
what those 12 jurors thought, and Johnny Cochran never lost sight of the fact that he was
playing to those jurors.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - This case is about a rush to judgment. There's a rush to
judgment here, but they don't want to listen, because they made that decision in this rush to judgment.
That is jurors, I'm sure you're not going to rush to judgment.

- Johnny Cochran, easily, was the guy that I would have hired to join me if I'd been first in the case.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - I mentioned before this crime scene and the number of people
who were allowed to walk through there, many with just their shoes on, walking right through the blood,
some had gloves, some didn't have gloves, picking up the evidence, which will become very relevant.
And important to you is you hear from the experts about the contamination aspect of this. And what it
means, how easy it is, a sneeze, a touch, whatever, for this evidence to become contaminated.

- The defense of strategy was to paint the law enforcement agents as bungling idiots, but yet they
were smart enough to frame an innocent man, but they were too stupid to pull it off correctly.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - We think the evidence will show that this scene was tracked
and traipsed up and the gathering of evidence was a complete disaster. And the evidence will show that
the careless slip shot, negligent collection, handling, and processing of samples by basically poorly
trained personnel from LAPD has contaminated, compromised, and corrupted DNA evidence in this case.
This is, by all accounts, 21st century cyberspace technology that is being used by these police
departments with covered wagon technology. The fact that blood mysteriously appears on vital pieces of
evidence, and it's predicted what the results will be regarding DNA when that evidence is still in the
police lab, is devastating evidence of something far more sinister.

Judge - I want you all to remember that your conduct here will have an impact not only upon the welfare
of your respective clients, but upon the image of our profession for many years to come. Those who say
the criminal justice system itself is on trial, may be correct in that observation.

During trial(not sure if relevant):


- I am absolutely appalled.
- The people have a right to know.
- They cannot shut me up.
- They've been lied to.
- I'm not going to hear it again.
- I ruled.
- They've been deceived.
- It's widely in those cases sometimes.
- Did you hear what I said about two minutes ago?

I got a phone call from Bob Shapiro saying we'd like you to join the defense team, and I said, no, I can't
because I've already commented that I believe he's guilty, and Bob said, well, everybody thinks he's
guilty.

The defense team is packed with big egos and some bold ideas on how to defend OJ Simpson. Some of
them judge Edo allows, and some of them he doesn't.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - Probably be times. I like Mr. Simpson to be able to approach
the jury to demonstrate certain things. I think are very relevant, and the question that don't me state it.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - It is only a blatant attempt to impress the jury with his charisma and
star appeal.

Judge - The motion to allow him to exhibit to the jury his knee injuries or the result of the scarring, and
the surgeries will be allowed.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - And I'd like at this point, have Mr. Simpson come over to the
jury so I can demonstrate the problem with his knees.

-random person-
This is an incredible moment. The person, OJ Simpson, who's up for double murder, by the way, gets to
walk up to the jury box right next to the jury. Yeah, there are a few deputies there, but he's not in
shackles. And he's making a connection with the jury out of the gate. In opening statements, it's a huge
advantage for the defense, and this is right out of the gate. Judge Edo allows this unprecedented.

Note: one of the critical points in any trial is the timeline of the crime. This was especially true in the
O.J. Simpson trial.
-random person-
You have to look at circumstantial evidence. So the dog and the plaintiff wail, and the evidence that was
given by the dog walker, they just try to establish a timeline, and the timeline is loose because you don't
know exactly when somebody was killed, but you try to determine it based upon what else is going on
and what else people are here in your scene.

Both sides fight hard to get the jury to believe their timeline for the night of the murders. The defense
has to account for OJ's whereabouts at the time of the killings. The prosecution has to pinpoint the
time of death based on a dog.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - Now what I'm about to describe to you is a series of events that
proves that the murders occurred between 935 and 1045 on the night of June the 12th. At
approximately 950 pm, Ron Goldman left the restaurant, still dressed in his waiter's uniform, the white
dress shirt, the black pants, and the black shoes. And his friends at the restaurant never again saw him
alive.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - She described for you how he was dressed, like she said with
some white shirt and black pants or whatever. You saw those pictures as terrible as they were. He was in
some jeans and some kind of shoes that are far different, and the evidence will be he went home,
dropped off a book, he changed clothes before he came to Nicole Brown Simpson. But the reason that
you weren't told those facts is because it's important they keep this 1015 time.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - 1015 Pablo Fendez heard a dog bark. He remembered it clearly
because the bark was like a plaintive, insistent wail. It was like nothing he'd ever heard before.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - Ms. Clark kept telling you that she had to fix the time of death
in this case at about what she's saying, about 1015. She had to make a 1015 and she made it based upon
a dog's wail. Now this is the first case you'll ever hear where the prosecution's theory is that you've got
to determine the cause of the time of death by a dog's wail.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - What he noticed when he pulled to that area that was right in his
field of view is that there was no car parked there, no white Ford Bronco, and it was 1039.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - She said to you that the limousine driver, when he came and
left to take Mr. Simpson to the airport, she told you that he did not see the Bronco park there. It's not
exactly what he said in his testimony, but the preliminary hearing in the grand jury.

Note: kato kaelin, a friend living on OJ’s estate, was a key witness for the prosecution’s timeline for the
night of the murders.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - At 1045, Kato was talking to his girlfriend, Rachel, when suddenly he
heard on the wall where the air conditioner was, three loud thumps.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - They've got to keep everything squashed in there so they could
tell you, oh, we had plenty of time to commit this crime. And when we conclude today, you're going to
see there was no time to commit this crime. And they have to tell you that it's about a dog's wail, when a
man's life is at stake.
-documentary person-
Was OJ physically capable of stabbing Ron and Nicole in such a short period of time? Now the
prosecution has a workout video that OJ made two weeks before the murders. The defense claims OJ
was having an arthritis flare up that made him too weak to commit the murders.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - He was involved in the acute phase of his chronic rheumatoid
arthritis. And on that date, after he had played golf, the problems with his hands were so severe he could
not shuffle the cards where he played Gen Rummy at the country club thereafter.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - Mr. Cochran made some comments to you about the defendant's
alleged arthritic condition. According to him, the defendant's arthritic condition became acute sometime
after he played golf. And after he'd been swinging the golf club on the evening of June the 12th at about
10 p.m. said at some point after that, the arthritic condition became acute. Mr. Cochran told you that the
defendant's physical capabilities are very limited as a result of that condition. The prosecution will show
you evidence to the contrary. We will show you outtakes of an exercise videotape which was made by
the defendant only two weeks before the murders. We will show you a portion of that videotape to
demonstrate just what the defendant's physical capabilities really were on the evening of June the 12th,
1994.

Was shown - VIDEO PRESENTATION EVIDENCE

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - The defendant prided himself in that tape on being in good physical
condition. You will see him doing push-ups. You will see him lifting his arms overhead. Stretch the upper
body by reaching for light. You know, a reaching for the air. You will see him stretching. This is a chest
stretch. Just get those arms back, push them out, push that chest out there. We're going to show you
that tape during the course of this trial.

-documentary interview-
The days were very intense and they began first thing in the morning and went well into the night.

In addition for a little bit of time to think of other discussion, just excuse me, I need to slow down myself
a little bit in your honor, give me just a moment. Yesterday the other day the court said it had to take a
deep breath, allow me to take one too.

Judge eto - I've had long experience with Mr. Hydejo and I've known him as a colleague and as a trial
lawyer and I've never seen the expressions on his face that I've seen today. What I'm asking you to do is
take a few deep breaths, evaluate what you have and then come to me with a proposal as to how we
proceed tomorrow morning. And I suspect you may unplug your computer and take it home with you
tonight. Maybe a long time before we get home tonight, your honor.

He was disoriented later. He was complaining about chest pains and other physical symptoms.

Marcia Clark (prosecution lawyer) - We were working until approximately 1.30 in the morning and we
were doing so without the benefit of the assistance of Mr. Hydejo and who was taken to the hospital at, I
believe approximately 6 p.m.
Mr hadjman?
I discovered as a result of getting tested, it apparently had abnormality in the muscular true of my heart
which had proved fatal for certain athletes historically and I had the same thing. So that was an awkward
and kind of shocking revelation.

-documentary part-
The scene outside the courthouse looks more like a circus than a trial. There really hadn't been frenzies
like that before that where there was just 24/7 coverage where there were dozens and dozens and
dozens of cameras. The scene is much the same immediately outside of the courtroom. The scene in and
around the courthouse, I would characterize it's just crazy. And I remember Martian and I looked at each
other and the thought that passed between us was, we can't do this. Inside the courtroom, a single
camera is mounted on the wall above the jury box. It opens up the trial to a worldwide audience of 50
million viewers.

It was really the first case of its kind where people could watch from start to finish and watch it unfold
and be frustrated because this was a real life soap opera.

The headlines are everywhere but looking at the coverage, it's almost like the country is watching two
different trials. On the one hand, the trial shines a spotlight on mainstream media's racial blind spot. It
starts a national conversation about domestic abuse and the reality that African American and white
communities have vastly different experiences and impressions when it comes to law enforcement. On
the other hand is the Los Angeles Sentinel, one of the oldest Black owned weekly newspapers in the
country. It breaks with the national media and covers the trial with a clear pro-defense perspective. Its
articles are syndicated coast to coast to other African-American papers.

The perception that Black America had about this case was largely filtered through the LA Sentinel in
distinction to say the more mainstream coverage of the case. The Sentinel always carried the news from
a perspective of the African American community. So it was nothing new to us that the Sentinel was
front and center in terms of carrying the story and the story that was coming from us that was best
known to us. The Sentinel faces head on the issue of race as a factor in the Simpson trial in a way that is
very different from national news organizations. The LA Sentinel started with the presupposition that we
cannot believe anything the police say and that they have to prove what they're saying before we're
going to believe them.

Note: the presence of Mark Fuhrman and allegations of his use of the N-word force a dramatic argument
about the power of the racial epithet.

Christopher darden (prosecutor) - It appears that Mr. Cochran and I, the only two Black lead lawyers on
each side of the council table, or somehow dragged into this issue to argue, the issue to the court. And I
think that may be due in some part to the fact that if anybody should slip and say or utter the word, it's
probably better to have a Black person do it. If a white male takes the witness stand and that word is
uttered in this courtroom, it will offend every Black juror on this case and any other African-American
within your shop. It is so prejudicial and so extremely inflammatory that to use that word will evoke
some type of emotional response from any African-American.

Johnnie Chochran (oj’s defense lawyer) - I would be remiss where I'm not at this time to take this
opportunity to respond to my good friend, Mr. Chris Darden. His remarks this morning are perhaps the
most incredible remarks I've heard in the Court of Law. His remarks are demeaning to African-Americans
as a group. And so I want to apologize to African-Americans across this country. Not every
African-American feels that way. It's demeaning to our jurors, to say that African-Americans who've lived
under oppression for 200 plus years in this country cannot work within the mainstream, cannot hear
these offensive words. African-Americans live with offensive words, offensive looks, offensive treatment
every day of their lives. But yet they still believe in this country. And to say that our jurors, because they
hear this offensive word, they hear every day the people call. If they interact with people, we've heard
this in the questionnaires. To say they can't be fair is absolutely outrageous.

Week one of the people versus OJ Simpson ends with the prosecution on the defensive. But when the
first prosecution witnesses testify, the defense goes after one of them only to have that effort backfire in
a big way. That's next on week two of OJ-25. I'm Roger Cossack.

Vid 2

DOCUMENTARY: The week of January 29, 1995 in Los Angeles, we'll see sunny skies and temperatures in
the mid-80s. In the Super Bowl, the San Francisco 49ers become the first team to win five
championships. 46,000 people will die of AIDS this year alone. Film industry executives read that Legends
of the Fall is number one at the box office, and it has been seven months and 17 days since the murders
of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. Their grieving families head to the courthouse for the trial of the
man accused of murdering their loved ones, as testimony begins in the OJ Simpson trial.

ROGER COSSACK - Week two of the People vs. OJ Simpson is, in many ways, the beginning of the trial.
The story of the prosecution is telling jurors, Simpson was a wife-beater, and Nicole's murder was the
conclusion of years of terrible physical abuse. Ron Goldman was simply an innocent bystander, in the
wrong place, at the wrong time. I'm Roger Kosak.

Shoreen maghame (reporter): OJ Simpson and Nicole Brown Simpson had had a troubled marriage,
because there were charges against him for domestic violence, and there had been pictures of that
abuse.

documentary: The prosecution begins its case by establishing a pattern of domestic abuse with
witnesses from law enforcement.

COURT SESSION:
Clerk of Court: Mr. Darden, Ms. Clark, are you ready to call your first witness?

FIRST WITNESS
Speaker 1: Mr. Christopher Darden
Speaker 2: Sharyn gilbert (911 operator)

1. Good morning, Ms. Gilbert.


2. Good morning.
1. Well, the call came to you, right?
2.Right, it was the open line.
1. Okay, and could you hear anything over the open line?
2. No, at the beginning, no.
1. Okay. Did the line remain open?
2. Yes, it did.
1. And while the line was open, at any point in time, could you hear anything?
2. Yes, I did.
1. What did you hear?
2. At first, I heard a female screaming. And did you hear anything else? Yes, I did. And what did you hear?
I heard someone being hit.
1. You heard a noise that you associated with someone being hit?
2. Yes.

Documentary evidence:
The audio recording:
Dispatcher: Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?
Nicole: “screams”. Oh my God!

SECOND WITNESS
Detective John Edwards (Los angeles police Dept.) - speaker 3
Please, you see the statement for your first and last witness of the record. Okay.

Speaker 3: A woman came running out of the bushes to my left across the driveway. She was a female
Caucasian blonde hair. She was wearing a bra only as an upper garment. And she had on a dark, I believe
it was a dark, lightweight sweat pants or night pajama bottoms and started yelling, he's going to kill me,
he's going to kill me.

Darden: Who's going to kill you?


3: She said, OJ.

Darden: What did you say?


3: I said, OJ who? Do you mean the football player, OJ, the football player? She said, yes, OJ Simpson, the
football player. And I saw Mr. Simpson walking towards me from the house wearing a bathrobe. He said, I
don't want that woman in my bed anymore. I got two other women. I don't want that woman in my bed
anymore. I told him that Nicole had obvious physical injuries to her face. She said that he had hit her and
I could see trauma and open wounds to her. She had a cut approximately one inch, I believe, on her left
upper lip. She had a swollen right forehead. I believe her left eye or right eye was starting to blacken. She
had a swollen and she had some sort of an imprint or some sort of a swollen mark that you could see on
her cheek. I believe that was also on the right cheek and she had a hand imprint on her throat, on the
left side of her throat. She said that OJ had slapped her, hit her with his fist and kicked her. She wanted
him arrested and I was going to have to place him under arrest for a spousal battery. She told me why
the argument had occurred that night.

Darden: What did she tell you?


3: She said that there were two other women living in the house in that OJ Simpson had sex with one of
them prior to going to bed that night with her.

Darden: Is that in your report?


3: No.

Darden: Why not?


3: Because right after I finished the report and turned it in, I started getting phone calls from the news
media and newspapers and I didn't feel that it was a relevant part of the report, the crime, and it would
just be a sensationalism thing. She said, you've been out here eight times. You never do anything about
him. And she says, I want him arrested. I want my kids back. I want to go in the house.

Darden: What did the defendant say?


3: I said, you've been out here eight times before and now you're going to arrest me for this? And I
remember he emphasized this. I knew that if I took OJ Simpson, a person with that stature to the station
in his underwear, that there would be repercussions because the media would show up and it would get
blown out of proportion.

Documentary shi: not part of the court proceedings


Ted rowlands Court tv anchor: OJ denies that he beat Nicole. He says that he just pushed her out of bed.
They tell him, listen, we have to arrest you. There's probable cause here, but we're going to let you go
back in the house because he's in his underwear and his bathrobe. We'll let you go in and change
clothes. Well, OJ goes in the house. Next thing you know, the police hear his Bentley taking off on the
other side of Rocky. And there's another driveway. He's gone.

Back to trial proceedings:


Johnnie cochran: That's Sergeant as Detective. Detective Edwards. All right. I want to call you by the
wrong name. Detective, are these the pictures at West Los Angeles Station, right?
3: That's correct.
NOTE: SHOWS THE BATTERED PICTURE OF NICOLE

Cochran: And how many pictures did you take altogether?


3: Three.

Cochran: And you have the ability, if the pictures didn't show something you wanted to show, you could
take another picture. Could you not?
3: No.

Chochran: You couldn't take any more pictures?


3:It was out of film.

Cochran: Wait a minute. You mean to tell us that the Los Angeles Police Department only had three shots
on a Polaroid roll on January 1st, 1989, at the West Los Angeles Station?
3: It was out of film, in that camera.

Cochran: With the Polaroid cameras, I recall it, you put another roll in after that finishes. Isn't that
correct?
3: Right. She wanted to go home.

Cochran: Wait a minute. How long would it take you, sir, to put another roll, slide another container
inside that camera?
3: She wanted to go home to her children, and it wasn't my option. I had to comply with her.

Cochran: So you didn't have time to take any more pictures? Is that what you're telling us?
3: That's correct.
Cochran: You did have other film at that station?
3: I would imagine somewhere locked up in that station, there was film.

cochran: There was other film at West Los Angeles Station? Isn't that correct, sir?
3: She wanted to leave. She wanted to go back to her children.

Cochran: Can you answer my question? Was there other film at West Los Angeles Station?
3: Somewhere in that station, I'm sure there was other film.

Cochran: And you could have gotten that film, isn't that correct?
3: I could have eventually gotten the film.

cochran: And you could have put that film inside that Polaroid camera, isn't that correct?
3: Yes.

Cochran: You could have taken that camera back to Rockingham, right?
3: I could have.

Cochran: And you could have taken the pictures that you claim you now want, isn't that correct?
3: If I would have ignored her request, I could have done all the things, it's true.

Cochran: You did not do that, did you?


3: No, I complied with her request to go to her children.

Cochran: But you were a police officer out there and the reason you take pictures is so you can preserve
how the person looked for years later. Isn't that correct, sir?
3: Exactly.

3rd witness testimony


We also have a meeting for this court to be the truth, the whole truth and evidence of help you God. I
start the inquiry.

Detective mike farrell (los angeles police department) speaker 4


cochran: Did he deny causing those injuries?
4: No, he did not.

Cochran: Did he admit causing those injuries?


3: Yes, he did. He told me that he was sorry for what he did to nicole and that he didn't mean to harm
her in any way and that he would seek counseling with her.

-end of trial sa-


Documentary person: Simpson is charged with spousal abuse. He pleads no contest. He sentenced to
two years probation, 120 hours of community service, mandatory counseling, a $200 fine and is ordered
to make a $500 donation to a woman's shelter.

Another audio recording DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE


Nicole: Can you give someone over here now to 325 Gretna Green? He's back. Please.
4th witness testimony
RON SHIP (Former police officer - friend of O.J. and nicole) speaker 5

clerk: The people called Ron's ship to the stand, Ron. Okay, Mr. Ship.

5: As I was just walking through the door of the courtroom, I actually really felt my legs shaking. I literally
actually felt like I was going to the gas chamber. It was really weird.

idk: Did you consider Nicole Brown a friend?


5. Yes, I did.

Idk: As you did the defendant?


5. Yes, I did.

idk:Do you and the defendant remain friends today?


5. Well, I still love the guy, but I don't know. I mean, this is a weird situation I'm sitting here in.

Idk: You say you still love him?


5. Sure.

5. Now that was a really weird moment. O.J. looked at me and smiled. And then I swear it was like
something with this feeling. Like, it hit me right there and I went, whoa. But he actually smiled like the
old days.

5. I was a police officer at the time and I was assigned to West Los Angeles Division.

idk: Did you ever visit Nicole Brown at Rocky Hill?

5: Yes, I did. She just kind of got into actually what had happened and started telling me what had
happened between her and O.J.

idk:: What injuries did you see at that time?

5: I couldn't see it that well because I remember she had makeup on, but I remember there was some
swelling about her head somewhere. I remember it was covered up pretty good.

Documentary part.
5. There was an argument over some gift that supposedly O.J. had given somebody else and she was
upset about it. O.J. had slapped her and chased her around and she, you know, and then up outside, only
with her bra on. And I think I told her, I said, Nicole, I said, when I was talking to O.J. on the phone, he
said he was trying to hold you off. He said you were their aggressor. And there was an isolated incident.
And that's when she looked at me and she said, you know, he said isolated and she had all these
pictures. And she goes, this is what's happened to me in the past. And I looked and I looked at those
pictures and I went, whoa. You know, and the first thing, of course, was going through my mind that, you
know, I'm like, man, you know, O.J. is a batter. You know, I'm like, at that point when I saw those, those
photos, this can't be the guy that I admire, the guy that I've never seen mad. I felt so bad. And as we
were talking, she started crying. You know, I've never seen Nicole cry.
idk: Were you ever assigned to teach any particular subject at the police academy?
5. Yes, I was.

Idk: What was that subject?


5: Domestic violence.

Idk: Did you show her the profile of the battered woman?
5.: Yes, I did.

Idk: The victim's profile?


5. Yes, I did.

Idk: Did you discuss it with her?


5. Yes, I did.

Documentary part.
5. And I went over all the profiles and, you know, the victim, the batterer. She looked at the, what I was
showing her. She goes, that's him, that's him, that's him, that's him. And I went, oh man, you know, and
she goes, could you do me a favor and maybe, you know, go over these profiles with O.J.? And I said,
sure.

Trial part:
5: O.J. made a remark to me. He said that he didn't think that he was a batterer. And I explained to him, I
said, hey man, you hit her. She's got marks. You're a batterer.

documentary: Prosecutors want the jury to hear about a conversation Chip has with O.J. the night after
the murders.

idk: Did you notice anything unusual about the defendant's hand at that time?
5: Yes, I noticed that he had one of his, on his left hand, I think one of his fingers was bandaged, white
bandaged on it.

idk: Did you pose any question to him at that time?


5: Yes, I asked him how he cut his finger. And what did he say? He said he did it in Chicago.

Documentary part not trial proceeding


5: He said he smashed a glass in Chicago and cut his finger. And then I said, oh, okay. And then after that,
somebody else had asked him, O.J. would have any finger. And he said, well, I was chipping golf balls out
in the front yard and cut my finger. Then another guy came by and asked, O.J. what happened to your
finger? And he said, I was getting the cell phone out of the Bronco.

trial:
5: He asked me how long does it take DNA to come back. He kind of jokingly just said, you know, to be
honest Chip, that's what he called me Chip. He said I've had some dreams of killing her.
idk: Did he say how many dreams he'd had of killing her?
5. No, he did not.

Idk: Did he say it was more than one?


5: He just said dreams, plural.

Documentary part not trial proceeding


5: I got in the car when I left and I drove home crying. And I called my wife. The first thing I did, I called
my wife and told her, I said, Nina, I think O.J. killed her. And she goes, you're kidding me. I said, no, I think
he did it. It was a real sad moment, you know, for me. I mean, this guy was everything to me. I mean,
everything.

trial:
idk: Isn't it true, sir, that you mentioned to Mr. Simpson that the police had found a glove on his
property?

Documentary part, not part of trial proceedings:


Speaker 1: Everyone remembers O.J. Simpson's dream team as Johnny Cochran, Robert Shapiro and F.
Lee Bailey. But there are other lawyers on the case. Carl Douglas cross-examines Ron Chip and tries to
make him look like a liar and an alcoholic.
Speaker 7: Carl had a lot of important jobs. Johnny had originally given Carl and I both a number of
witnesses to the crime. We had a new examine at the trial and one of Carl's witnesses came first, which
was Ron Chip. And that was a particularly awful day for the defense.

trial:
cochran: And wouldn't you agree that this statement about this supposed dream is a pretty bad thing
about Mr. Simpson?
5. Yes, it is.

cochran: So did you lie when you didn't tell me about that dream?
5: I sure did.

Cochran: You did? You said that you've lied a few times, haven't you, sir?
5. Never in court.

Cochran: Isn't it true, sir, that you were hopeful that you would be able to garner some publicity by
making up false allegations about Mr. Simpson?
5. No, it's not true at all.

Cochran: Didn't you think, sir, that by concocting this story about Mr. Simpson, it might enhance your
own personal profile?
5. Mr. Douglas, I put all my faith in God and my conscience. Since Nicole's been dead, I've felt nothing
but guilt. My own personal guilt that I didn't do as much as I probably should have.

cochran: But let me ask you this. Didn't you think that by being a witness in this case, it would enhance
your own personal profile?
5: No, sir. Aren't you an actor?
cochran: Sir, I have done some acting?
5: yes I have.

Cochran: Let's talk about that. Isn't it true, sir, that by being the witness who has a conversation with Mr.
Simpson, that it is going to possibly enhance your profile around the world?
5: Mr. Douglas, there is no way, shape or form, that I would sit here and go through all this, put my family
through this for an acting career. I could care less if I do any acting.

cochran: You do realize, Mr. Ship, that by testifying as you have, you are going to enhance the name of
Ron Ship around the world.
5: Just like you're enhancing Carl Douglas, by being Mr. Attorney here.

cochran: You realize that too, right?


5: Yes, I do.

Cochran: So now you're a star as well?


5: Well, I mean, that's what everybody's, you know, that's what they say, people are going to see you.
But that's not why I'm doing this, Mr. Douglas. I'm doing this from my conscience and my peace of mind.
I would not have the blood of Nicole on Ron Ship. I can sleep at night, unlike a lot of others.

Not part of trial proceedings - part of documentary:


5: Chris Darden had been recruiting me pretty much and saying, hey, you know, you need to help us out.
You need to testify with the stuff that you know. And I told him I didn't want anything to do with it. And
Chris Darden did something that I thought was genius on his part, because he called me down to the
district attorney's office. So I sat down and he, someone said, hey, Chris, you got a phone call. And he's
went, okay, he gets up and he walks away. And I look and I sit there and I see this, what I knew was a
homicide book, you know, and Ron and Nicole. And I just opened it up. And I looked at the pictures, Ron,
and I looked at the pictures of Nicole. And when I saw the pictures of her, I mean, that just ripped me to
shreds. I just went, man, and this is like really, really crazy. And when Chris came back, you know, and I
just looked at him and said, you know, I'll testify. And he goes, huh? I said, I'll testify. I mean, I'll testify.

Trial proceding:
idk: Isn't it true, sir, that Simpson never said anything to you about there being blood found in the car?
5: No, it's not true.

Idk: Isn't it true, sir, that Mr. Simpson said nothing to you about blood being found in the house?
5: That's not true.

Idk: Isn't it true, sir, that you mentioned to Mr. Simpson that the police had found a glove on his
property?
5: I had no idea what they found in that house. Nothing.

idk: Didn't you take Mr. Simpson out to behind the garage to show him the area where the glove was
supposedly found?
5: This is sad, O.J., but no, this is really sad.
idk: You're right, I'm gonna strike that. Ladies and gentlemen, you are to disregard Mr. Ship's direct
comment to the defendant, Mr. Ship. I'm sorry. Please, you're instructed not to do that.

Documentary part - not part of the proceedings


girl: Ron Ship just looked over at O.J. at one point and just started talking directly to him as if no one else
was in the room. It was just this like very real moment, and that was on Carl's watch. And it wasn't Carl's
fault, but it caused O.J. to insist that the second-tier lawyers not get to examine any other witnesses.

Trial part:
Idk: You drink a lot, don't you?
5: I used to.

idk: You've had a drinking problem, haven't you?


5: Been the past, I have.

Idk: Your alcohol problem started when?


5: When I was a police officer.

Idk: About what year did the problem start?


5: I'd say it probably kind of got out of hand, I think, around... Maybe 83.

idk: And you believe that your alcohol problem ended when?
5: Probably when I left the police department.

idk: Which would have been 89.


5: 89.

Idk: You were suspended for 30 days while you worked at the academy, were you not?
5: No, I was not.

Idk: Wasn't there an occasion, sir, when you came to the academy with alcohol on your breath?
5: Yes, there was.

Idk: Didn't you receive a discipline as a result of that conduct?


5: Yes, I did.

Idk: What was that discipline?


5: I received 15-day suspension.

idk: When you say, Mr. Ship, that you didn't have a drug problem... I'm sorry, an alcohol problem after
1989, are you saying by that that you have not been drunk since 1989?
5: I'm saying, to me, a drinking problem. Let me explain this. You know, when I did have a drinking
problem, I was the one that told myself, according to all my friends and family, they were, everybody was
shocked. It was me. It was my standards.

idk: I respect that, but my question is, you still have gotten drunk since 89, haven't you?
5: I'd say yes.
Idk: Were you and he close friends?
5: I'd say we were pretty good friends. We didn't never went out to dinner, like on a regular basis and
stuff like that.

idk: Did you ever go out to dinner with him and you ever?
5: Well, when he was trying to have me help him get back with Nicole, he was real.

Idk: You and he went out to dinner?


5: He took me out a couple of times.

Idk: O.J. Simpson is a football fan, isn't he?


5: J. Lutz football, yes, he does.

Idk: He goes to games a lot, doesn't he? You and O.J. Simpson have never attended a football game
together in the 26 years that he's been your supposed friend, have you?
5: Not one.

Idk: You're not, really, this man's friend, are you, sir?
5: Well, okay, all right. If you want me to really explain it, I guess you can say I was like everybody else,
one of his servants. I did police stuff for him all the time. I ran license plates. That's what I was. Okay, I
mean, I, like I said, I love the guy.

idk: You weren't the kind of friend that he would share some private secret with, were you, sir?
5: Nothing except for the 1989 beating where he needed me.

Documentary part:
5: I hated Carl Douglas for a long time. I really did. I mean, I, you know, the word hate, in my mind was
Carl Douglas, you know, I really did.

Trial proceedings:
shapiro: Mr. Schipp continually was staring at us. I found it myself to be very, very uncomfortable.

Documentary part:
["The O.J. Simpson Trial"] As week two of the O.J. Simpson Trial continues, the defense calls out
prosecution witness Ron Schipp for behaving inappropriately in front of the jury, specifically accusing him
and some of the family members of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown of exchanging congratulatory
gestures after he finished his testimony.

Trial proceeding:
Saara Caplan (simpson defense team)
caplan: I saw Mrs. Goldman gesturing to Ron Schipp and telling him what a wonderful job she did and
going like he did and going like this while the jury was sitting right there.

judge: Did she make a thumbs up gesture?


caplan: Yeah, she was also talking very loud and she said, Ron, you did a great job like that.

cochran: When Mr. Ron Schipp left the Winnistown finally, he walked through the gates there and he
made what has been called a power sign toward the Brown family. This was seen by people in the back
row and the jury was apparently still here. The court needs again perhaps to inquire or check with your
staff or check with the photographers in the back row.

shapiro: Well, you were directing your attention to counsel at Sidebar. I was conferring with Mr. Simpson
and Mr. Schipp continually was staring at us, was mouthing some type of word in some type of attempt
to either communicate with me or with Mr. Simpson, was making very unusual facial expressions that
would go from a grimace to a smirk. And it was in front of the jury and I found it. I found it myself to be
very, very uncomfortable and I tried to direct my attention away from him.

Cheri lewis (prosecutor): What I saw was a witness who didn't know where to look. He didn't want to sit
there and stare at the jury. He could not stare at the audience, so he was looking around as his typical of
a witness when the attorneys are at Sidebar. I didn't see him make any unusual expressions other than
those typical and consistent with a witness who was just trying to determine what to do while the
attorneys are at Sidebar.

Judge:: All right, well, if we have any luck, maybe Court TV has the focus on Mr. Schipp during that
course.

Darden (prosecutor): I asked Mr. Schipp during the break if he amounted something to the defendant
while we were at Sidebar and he told me that, yes, in fact, he did. And I intend to ask him on redirect
what it was since it was done in the presence of the jury. We would like to ask the jury, excuse me, the
jury saw it. I'd like to know what it is he said to him. I'd like him to know what it is he said to him.

Carl douglas: I don't think that's proper, your honor. That's not evidence and I think the Court should
simply admonish.

judge: I'm going to admonish and communications between a witness and a defendant during the course
of the trial. I don't think they're relevant to anything unless there's something highly unusual. I'm not
going to get into that in front of the jury. All right, let's have the jurors please. Okay, hold on. What did he
say, Mr. Darden, what's your offer, proof?

Darden: He said tell the truth.


Carl douglas: I'd object, your honor.

Documentary part: HIGH KEY PART THIS TESTIMONY REGARDING CONFLICTING INTERPRETATIONS
documentary: Ron Schipp's testimony is a dramatic example of different perspectives covering the
Simpson trial. The national media reports it one way. The African American media, led by the L.A.
Sentinel, reports it another.

Darnel hunt - professor sociology african-american studies, ucla: The Sentinel saw itself as an advocate
for the black community and it presented viewpoints that one wouldn't typically see in the pages of the
L.A. Times.
documentary: Consider this. This is the L.A. Times coverage of Schipp's testimony.

NOTE: Los Angeles times coverage


- Simpson dreamed of killing, witness says
- A former police officer and self-described friend of O simpson testified wed…
- Shipp testified… at one point meeting with OJ Simpson to describe for him the characteristics of
a batterer.

Darnel hunt - professor sociology african-american studies, ucla: The foundation of journalistic practice is
this idea of reporting facts. And facts are things that can be verified with evidence of various sorts and
that, you know, two different observers should come away with the same understanding if indeed it's a
fact.

documentary: Now compare that with the L.A. Sentinel's treatment of the same testimony.

NOTE: Los Angeles sentinel coverage


- Two ‘drunks’ join OJ Cast of ‘addicts, liars’
- Shipp who claims to be a “friend” of Simpson’s, made his statement not to the police but to a
writer being supported by the Brown family…
- …testified under grilling cross-examination… to have a sever drinking problem from 1983 until
he was forced to leave the LAPD in 1989.

Darnel hunt - professor sociology african-american studies, ucla: Obviously that's a very different
perspective than, say, the one that the L.A. Times took. They saw the police officership as possibly a race
trader, who, again, as a part of the police force, who has been known to do things to convict blacks who
maybe weren't deserving of conviction. And the fact that, you know, he had a drinking issue and it was
more fuel to the fire. So, again, different frames brought to the same testimony lead to radically different
interpretations of what it means.

Trial proceedings:
Darden: Your Honor, I have here what appears to be an L.A. PD 9-1-1 incident report made be marked
People's 20-2.

ANOTHER WITNESS: - number 6


Katherine Bow (nicole’s neighbor) : My name is Katherine Bow, C-A-T-H-E-R-I-N-E.

Darden: During 1992 and 1993, did you live next door to Nicole Brown?
6: Yes, I did.

Darden: Directing your attention to the last week of April, 1992, at about 11.30 p.m., did you see the
defendant at that time?
6: Yes, I did.

Darden: And where were you when you saw the defendant?
6: I was in my upstairs bedroom.

darden: And where was the defendant when you saw him?
6: He was on the sidewalk. Below.
Darden: What did you see the defendant do?
6: I saw him walking around. On the sidewalk. Walking from Shetland, up Gretna Green. Slowly.

darden: How long did the man remain on the sidewalk, the man you identified as a defendant?
6: All the time that my husband was downstairs.

Darden: Okay. How much time was that?


6: Two or three minutes. Okay.

Darden: Did your husband call 9-1-1?


6: Yes, he did.

Darden: What happened next?


6: I went to tell him that it was OJ.

ANOTHER WITNESS: - number 7


Carl coby (nicole’s neighbor and catherine boe’s husband)
7: My name is Carl Colby.

darden: What caused you to call 9-1-1?


7: Well, it was an evening, approximately 10.30 or 11 o'clock at night. And it's a residential
neighborhood, very quiet. And sometimes before retiring, I look- I look down downstairs, make sure the
lights are off, things like that. And I happen to look outside and I saw a man outside on the sidewalk.
Okay.

Darden: And what was that man doing?


7: He was standing on the sidewalk looking at what apparently was the residence next door.

darden: What did you see the man do after you called 9-1-1?
7: He went back to the original position and looked upon at the residence and then left. After I'd made
the call, I recognized him.

Darden: And who was that man? It was Mr. Simpson. Well, I was embarrassed that I'd called 9-1-1
because I didn't feel that Mr. Simpson was a threat to me or to anyone else in our neighborhood.

Documentary part: not part of the trial proceeding.


Mark furhman (detective): It came down to a stalker. And the stalker was Simpson. So he would give
himself two or three hours to see what she's gonna do and who she has come over to her place, and he
would spy on her.

DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE: another audio recording calling 911


Audio recording: 911 emergency 5-8. Can you get someone over here now to 325 Gretna Green? He's
back. Please. Okay, what does he look like? OJ Simpson, I think you know his record. Could you just send
somebody over here?

dispatcher: Okay, what is he doing there?


Nicole: He's just throwing up again. He's just throwing up over.
Dispatcher: Wait a minute, what kind of car is he in?
Nicole: He's in a white Bronco, but first of all, he broke the back door down to get in.
Dispatcher: Wait a minute, what's your name?
Nicole: Nicole Simpson.
Dispatcher: Okay, is he the sports counselor or whatever?
Nicole: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Okay, what is he doing? Wait a minute, we're telling the police, what is he doing? Is he
threatening you?
Nicole: He's f***ing going nuts.

ANOTHER WITNESS: - number 8


Terri moore (911 operator)
8: Terry T-E-R-R-I. More M-O-O-R-E.

darden: What priority code was it given at 9.44 p.m.?

8: It was given a code 2 priority, which is urgent but not life-threatening.

Documentary part: not part of the trial proceeding.


reporter: When the 9-1-1 calls were played, it was a really sad day. I think that that was, in many ways,
the turning point for public opinion against O.J. Simpson and to hear his wife, his ex-wife, so terrified, so
afraid in one of the calls where she's screaming and she's saying, he's gonna kill me. And then contrast
that, actually with the other call, the second call, where she almost sounded resigned.

Back to trial proceedings:


More on audio recordings:
Dispatcher: Has he threatened you anywhere? Or is he just harassing you?
Nicole: You're gonna hear a minute, and he's about to get to me.
dispatcher: Okay, just stay on the line.
Nicole: I don't want to stay on the line.
Dispatcher: Just stay on the line so we can know what's going on until the police get here, okay? Okay,
Nicole?
Nicole: Uh-huh.
Dispatcher: Just a moment. Does he have any weapons?
Nicole: I don't know. He went home, tied back. They're sleeping and I don't want anything to happen.

darden: Was that priority code upgraded at some point?


8 Yes.

Darden: And who upgraded the priority of that call?


8: I did.

Darden: Okay, what did you upgrade it to?


8: I upgraded it to Code Too High, which is now potentially life-threatening.

More on audio recordings:


Prolly OJ: I'm gonna put this ass up, but it's gonna be a fucking... It's gonna be a fucking broken ice, like,
it's gonna be a fucking...
Dispatcher: Is he inside right now? Okay, just a moment.
Prolly OJ: I'm gonna put this ass up, and I'm gonna put this ass up.
Dispatcher: Is he talking to you?
Nicole: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Are you locked in a room or something?
Nicole: No, he can come right in. I'm not going where the kids are, because...
Dispatcher: You think he's gonna hit you?
Nicole: I don't know, Eddie. Okay.
Dispatcher: Stay on the line. Don't hang it up, okay? Okay.

Not part of the trial proceedings:


Tanya brown (stepmom of nicole)
tanya: What kept her staying? What kept her to, you know, stick this relationship out? I don't know. But I
do know that they had... they had a love affair. And what that love affair was, I'll never understand. T

ANOTHER WITNESS: - number 9


SGT. Robert Lerner (LAPD)
darden: On October 25, 1993, around 10 p.m., did you respond to a 9-11 call for help?

9: Not for help, but I did respond to a 9-11 call.

darden: And did you respond to 325 South Gretna Green?


9: Yes, sir.

Darden: The home of Nicole Brown?


9: Yes.

darden: Why did you go to that location?


9: The 9-1-1 call stated there was a domestic dispute. It was Mark Cotoo High, which is an urgent call.
She was visibly shaken. She was upset. She was concerned. And she was scared. The door had been split
near the top and bottom of the door.

darden: Describe for us, if you will, the defendants to meet her when you saw him in the rear yard.
9: The defendant was agitated. He was upset. Pacing back and forth. And he was speaking loudly.

Note: Nicole had no injuries at this point. SGT Lerner filed charges but the case never went to court.

Documentary - not part of the proceedings:


Speaker 3: These pictures of her and these recordings of her and her telling people that she was afraid
for her life, almost like she was speaking from the grave, and it really impacted me emotionally. But
when they interviewed the jurors, who were dismissed after that, they said that they didn't think it had
any relevance to the case. And so the impact on the jury was not the same as the impact maybe on some
of the reporters or some people in the public. And I found that to be really, really impactful and really,
really sad and haunting.

documentary: On Friday afternoon, February 3, Nicole's older sister, Denise, testifies. Her physical
resemblance to her late sister is striking. And her raw anger and hostility to her former brother-in-law is
palpable.
ANOTHER WITNESS: - number 10
Denise Brown (nicole’s sister)
denise: Denise Brown, D-E-N-I-S-E-B-R-O-W-N.

darden: Miss Brown, you are Nicole Brown's older sister?


10: Yes, I am.

Darden: Do you have other sisters?


10: Yes, I do.

Darden: How many?


10: There's Dominique, Antonia, and of course, Nicole.

darden: You know the defendants seated here at the end of the council table?
10: Yes, I do.

Darden: Is your former brother-in-law?


10: Yes, he is.

Darden: When did you first meet the defendant?


10: Back in 1977.

Darden: And where was he when you met him?


10: He was playing football for Buffalo.

darden: Was your sister Nicole and the defendant dating back then in 1977?
10: Yes, they were.

Darden: Was the defendant married at that time?


10: Yes, he was.

Darden: Miss Brown, your sister Nicole married the defendant in February 1985?
10: Yes, she did.

Darden: Did you attend the wedding?


10: Yes, I did. I was the maid of honor.

Darden: Did you, your sister Wendy, your sister Nicole, and Juliana, the four of you and the defendant
went out and went to the red onion in Santa Ana?
10: Yes, we did.

Darden: Did anything unusual happen that night in the red onion?
10: Yes.

Darden: What was that?


10: Well, we all started, we were all drinking and goofing around and being loud and dancing and having
a great time. And then at one point, O.J. grabbed Nicole's crotch and said, this is where babies come
from and this belongs to me. And Nicole just sort of wrote it off like it was nothing. Like, you know, like
she was used to that kind of treatment. And it was like, I thought it was really humiliating. Have you
asked me?

darden:: And when he said this, and when he grabbed her in the crotch, were there people around?
10: Oh, yeah, the bar was packed.

Darden: Strangers?
10: Yeah. Yeah, he was talking to the strangers.

darden: Did the defendant appear mad or angry or upset when he grabbed your sister's crotch and made
these statements in front of these strangers?
10: No. No. He wasn't angry. It was his. That's the way he, he, just the way he acted, the way it was like
this belongs to me. This is mine. He wasn't angry when he said it. He just made it a point. He wanted it to
be known.

darden: And during the time that these strangers were approaching him and shaking hands or things like
that, did he appear to shy away from the attention at all?
10: Oh, no. No, not at all. He loves the attention. He loves it. He's got a big ego. He feeds his ego.

Cochran: your honor, may we approach the bench, please?

Judge ito: This regard, the last answer regarding the defendant's ego that question and answer is not
relevant to the issue before the court at this time. And Ms. Brown, if I can ask you, would you please
listen carefully to the question that the attorneys ask of you and if you would answer just the precise
question that they ask you, this will go a lot easier. Thank you.

darden: You recall an occasion when you and Ed McCabe and Nicole and the defendant went out to
dinner?
10: Yes, I do.

Darden: And where did the four of you go after you left the La Argentina restaurant?
10: We went to OJ's house. OJ and Nicole's house.

Darden: On Rockingham?
10: Yes.

darden: Had you had something to drink at the restaurant before?


10: Yeah, Margaritas.

darden:And what did you do when you returned to the defendant's home on Rockingham?
10: We were sitting at the bar talking, having some more drinks and talking.

darden: Okay, and while you were talking, did you say something to the defendant?
10: Yes, I did.

Darden: What did you say to him?


10: I told him he took Nicole for granted. And he blew up.
Robert shapiro: your honor, im going to object again. The question has been asked and answered.
Motion to strike the last response.

Judge ito: Ms. Brown, if you would, don't volunteer anything beyond the actual question, please. Okay.
Thank you, Mr. Darden.

darden: You told the defendant that he took Nicole for granted?
10: Yes.

Darden: Why did you tell him that?


10: Because she did everything.

Darden: What reaction, if any, was there by the defendant when you told him that he took your sister,
Nicole, for granted?
10: He got extremely upset. He started yelling, me, and I'll take her for granted. I do everything for her. I
give her everything. And he continued. And then a whole fight broke out. And pictures started flying off
the walls. Clothes started flying around upstairs. Got clothes started flying down the stairs. And, um...
Grabbed Nicole. Told her to get out of his house. Wanted us all out of his house. Picked her up. Threw
her against a wall. Picked her up. Threw her out of the house. She ended up on her... She ended up
falling. She ended up on her elbows and on her butt. Then she threw a... Edmund came out. We were all
sitting there screaming. And then he grabbed me and threw me out of the house.

Not part of the trial:


documentary: The raw emotion of Denise Brown's testimony closed week two of the O.J. Simpson trial. A
week the prosecution painted a picture of domestic violence that led to murder. In week three, Denise
Brown continues her testimony, describing the hours before her sister is murdered, including the
demeanor of the man accused of killing her. That's next on O.J. 25. I'm Roger Cossack.

Vid 3

Speaker 1: The following program contains graphic images and language. Viewer discretion is advised.

Speaker 2: The week of February 6, 1995. Temperatures in Los Angeles will top out in the mid-60s. The
number one song on the radio is Creep by TLC. Ramsey Yousef, the mastermind of the 1993 World Trade
Center bombing, is captured in Pakistan. President Clinton tries, but fails to settle the baseball strike.

The median price of a new house in the U.S. is $134,000, and the price of gasoline rises to $1.15 a gallon.
For the families of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman, there is hope that prosecutors will succeed in
convicting the man accused of murdering their loved ones. As the case of the People vs. O.J. Simpson
continues to unfold. It's week three of the O.J. Simpson trial, and the prosecution finishes telling the
story of domestic violence suffered by Nicole Brown at the hands of O.J. Simpson.

Next comes the timeline, as jurors learn about the last hours of Nicole and Ron Goldman, and how a dog
figured into the discovery of their bodies. I'm Roger Cossack, and this is OJ 25.

Speaker 3: All right, back on the record in the Simpson matter.


Speaker 4: The people called Denise Brown. You're reminded you're still under oath. All right, good
morning, Ms. Brown.

Speaker 3: All right, could you pull the microphone close to you, please?

Speaker 4: Ms. Brown, when we left off last Friday, you told us about an incident that occurred after you
and your sister Nicole and Ed McCabe returned to the defendants' house after an evening at the La
Cantina.

Speaker 5: Yes, I did. He wanted her out of his house, and he continued going up the stairs, and he
grabbed the clothes out of her closet and started throwing them down onto the foyer where we were
down on the bottom, and came back down, grabbed Nicole. He threw her up against the wall, and the
only thing I remember is that it was, he looked, his whole facial structure changed. Everything about him
changed.

Speaker 4: When you say his facial structure changed, what do you mean? It was a calm, quiet, normal
conversation.

Speaker 5: Like, we were sitting here right now, and then all of a sudden it turned into the eyes, got real
angry. It was his whole jaw, everything started, you know, his whole face just changed completely when
he got upset. It wasn't as if it was OJ anymore.

Speaker 4: Did you try and stop her from returning to the house? Yeah, I did.

Speaker 5: Yeah, I told her, I told her that she shouldn't go back. She says, I'm not going back, I'm just
going to go pick up a few things.

Speaker 4: Did she say she'd return back to the hotel? Yes, she did. She said she was going to come back
to you? Yes, she did. Did she come back? No, she didn't.

Speaker 6: Victims of domestic violence love their partner, and they stay because they hope that maybe
one day the person that they first met will present himself again.

Speaker 7: A valuable aspect of the OJ Simpson trial was the fact that people were talking about
domestic violence, and you generally didn't hear about it in neighborhoods like Beverly Hills, or
Brentwood, or Bel Air, and that's where these people were from. It forced everyone to address the fact
that this issue isn't just based on socioeconomics, it's not based on race, it happens everywhere.

Speaker 4: What did the defendant say about your sister's weight while she was pregnant?

Speaker 5: He used to call her a fat pig. He used to comment like this all the time. Can he make hand
gestures? Yes.

Speaker 6: Domestic violence is very insidious. It just doesn't hit you. It creeps up and it builds up. We
need to start taking that seriously, the emotional, psychological assault, because until we do that,
Nichols will continue to happen.
Speaker 4: Have you seen these photographs before? Yes, I am. You told us a moment ago that you took
these photographs, is that correct? Yes, I did. Would you describe for us please the circumstances that
led to your taking these photographs?

Speaker 5: Nicole asked me to take them for.

Speaker 4: When was the first time you saw this photograph?

Speaker 5: I saw this in her bathroom drawer.

Speaker 4: Was this a bathroom drawer located in the house at Rockingham?

Speaker 5: Yes, it was in her bathroom.

Speaker 8: I saw that in her bathroom drawer one day and I pulled it out and I said, oh my god, I said,
Nicole, I said, what happened? And she says, oh my god, she got it. She goes, isn't that great?

She goes, the studio painted a black eye on me. And I said, what? She goes, didn't they do a great job?
And I said, yeah. I said, god, they did a great job. And I threw the picture right back in the drawer,
thinking nothing of it. And when I read her notes and diaries, I was like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 9: You know, Your Honor, I have been practicing for a long time and I've never seen anything
quite this extraordinary where a photograph that is clearly inadmissible is just thrown up on giant screen
television for the jury to see.

Speaker 4: These photographs were shown to the court. They were shown to the defense a month ago.

Speaker 3: The problem I have is that we've shown the jury this photograph without a foundation as to
where and when this photograph was taken or by whom. And we don't know if it ties up to any of the
incidents that I've indicated are admissible. It may be irrelevant. And if it's irrelevant, the inflammatory
nature of that particular photograph, which you have to admit is a pretty strong photograph.

Speaker 4: They didn't object to it. They've known about it for a month. They saw it last week and they
didn't object to it. But now they object to it today after the jury sees it. Well, now we found out there's
no foundation. There is a foundation for it.

Speaker 9: For the prosecutor to come to court and flash a photograph without knowing what that
witness was going to say about the photograph and telling your honor that we haven't asked her. I guess
she's going to say they were 1985. I don't know what she'll say. I have to ask her. Is something that is not
permitted by our rules of procedure.

Speaker 4: You can look at the photographs and clearly discern that she is younger in people's nine for
identification. If they wanted to object to the introduction of these photographs, they could have. They
are. Yeah. After they've been shown to the jury.

Speaker 9: Their presentation on these issues told your honor, these photographs were 1989. I don't
think there's anything more to say.
Speaker 10: I am not going to allow the use of that photograph despite the fact that you've already seen
it. I know it's difficult to unring a bell, but I'm going to ask you to disregard what you saw in that
particular photograph.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think a jury can ever unring the bell. I think that's one of the fictions of law to
put out of your mind everything that you've seen.

Speaker 3: The reason for that is there is no foundation. We don't know the date, time and place for that
was taken by whom and what it purports to depict.

Speaker 2: I remember seeing that picture several times and it was a brutal picture. She was beaten
badly. And it's not something that you forget and it's not something the jury would forget.

Speaker 11: People have seen this one photo of Nicole with all the barruses and all this stuff. And if you
notice, they never admitted that into the trial because Nicole had made the movie about the battered
wife. And most of that, that is movie makeup.

Speaker 3: All we have is a picture and we can't tell the place, date and time and who was there who
took it at this point. So I'm going to ask you to disregard that photograph and we'll continue with the
testimony of Denise Brown.

Speaker 4: I have no further questions, Your Honor. Thank you. Mr.

Speaker 9: Shapiro. Prior to going back to Rockingham, you said you had been at some type of
restaurant. Right. And there was some drinking going on? Yes. And you have told us that you had some
problems with alcohol in the past? Yes. At that time were you also still drinking?

Speaker 5: Oh, I was drinking at that time, yes.

Speaker 9: Do you recall what your state of sobriety was that night? I had had a few drinks. Could you tell
us how much you had to drink if you recall?

Speaker 5: Oh, I don't recall how many drinks, no.

Speaker 9: And how would you describe your consumption of alcohol?

Speaker 5: I said I had a problem.

Speaker 2: That week, The New York Times describes Denise Brown as a compelling witness who was
pale and tearful and gave a chilling account. The Los Angeles Sentinel, a newspaper that largely serves
the African American community and covers the trial from the defense team's perspective, calls Denise
Brown a drunk in their headline.

Speaker 12: I believe what the reporter from the Sentinel was saying. I believe it was his objective
opinion. But he also comes with a life's realization of the way the black community is treated and the
way news is or is not reported on what goes on in the black community.
Speaker 2: Central to the prosecution's case is the timeline. It begins with what happened earlier in the
day of the murders.

Speaker 4: On that day, was it was a recital held for your niece, Sidney? Yes, I was. And when he greeted
you and your sister Dominique and your parents, what was his demeanor?

Speaker 5: He had a very far away look. It was, um, it was actually really kind of spooky. It was a
frightening look.

Speaker 4: So did you turn around and look at him during the time that he was sitting behind you? Yeah,
actually, I talked to him. Did he appear happy and cheerful? No, not at all. Mrs. Garvey, when you walked
into the recital auditorium, did you see the defendant? I did. Did you notice anything unusual about him
at that time?

Speaker 13: Um, yes, I did. And what was that? It was just, he was not the same as I had ever seen him
before.

Speaker 4: And how was he different? How is it that he was not the same?

Speaker 13: I immediately noticed that it was a vast departure from the norm of how I've ever seen him
before. He, he just seemed a little vacant, non responsive. When he, when he stared at me, I felt like he
was looking right through me and it scared me a little bit.

Speaker 2: Nicole Brown and O.J. Simpson have a complicated relationship. They've been divorced for
two years. They've dated other people. They have gone back and forth about getting back together. As
they head to the recital, they are not together, except to see their daughter perform at a local middle
school.

Speaker 5: Every time I turned around, he was staring at Nicole.

Speaker 2: When defense attorney Robert Shapiro cross-examines Denise Brown, he sets a trap. Mr.

Speaker 3: Shapiro, I understand that you have a videotape that you want the court to view.

Speaker 9: The court's permission, we'd like to show a video of Mr. O.J. Simpson at the Paul Revere
school, just leaving the recital and ask if you can identify the people who are depicted in the tape that
are relevant to this case. Would you please do that for us? Sir.

Thank you. Now there's somebody who is wearing a, looks like a blue shirt with dark hair. Facing a
gentleman who is O.J.

Simpson, do you know who that person is? That's me. And what were you just doing at that time? I gave
him a kiss goodbye. And right to your right is a gentleman. Who is that? That's my father. And right to
your left is another person.

Speaker 14: That's my mother. In this instance, the defense team is brilliantly confronting Denise Brown,
with something you could think of as a little bit of proof for their point. So she testified already that she
saw O.J. Simpson with a spooky look on his face, a frightening look.
He seemed far away to her. And the defense wants to contradict that. So they're taking this piece of
evidence from the outside, bringing it before the jury and letting them see the proof in the picture. To
see the look on his face that doesn't look like someone who has a spooky look, a frightening look. He
appears cheerful and happy. And he's seen picking up his child and kissing Denise Brown at one point.
He's smiling right there.

Speaker 7: I was at the dance recital that he was at that day, because our daughters were in the same
dance school. And as with the year before, I saw O.J. Simpson at the dance recital that day. And people
would say, juice, how you doing? O.J., hey, how are you? People loved him. They wanted his autograph.
They wanted to take a picture with him. They wanted to shake his hand. They loved him.

Speaker 15: Have you ever seen a video of Mr. Simpson shortly after this recital, interacting with the
Brown family and with the son, Justin? I did. And when you saw him at the end of that video there, he
seemed you to be kind and happy. Did he not? Yes, he did.

Speaker 13: Like he always does, right? That's right. And when you saw this up in the DA's office on
Friday, didn't you think, gee, that O.J. Simpson looked pretty kind and happy at that point? And you think
that? Well, what I really thought was, that was an amazing change. Is that what you thought? I really did.
Now, do you see that's the exact same date? I know that's right. It amazes me.

Speaker 14: Then the prosecution had a chance to do redirect examination and what we call
rehabilitation in the courtroom where they had a chance to have her clarify that when she said O.J.
Simpson looked frightening and spooky, it was inside of the dance recital. This video was taken outside.

Speaker 4: You just saw the defendant's demeanor in the video tape outside the recital. Is that correct?
Right. Is that the way he appeared inside the recital? That is his demeanor? No. Was different inside?
Yes.

Speaker 10: He told the jury that they'd have evidence that he was ugly in an ugly mood and brooding.
But look at the video tape. I think everybody has to pay attention. The video tape does not lie. I mean, it
reminds me of Rodney King. I mean, you see certain things and it's pretty graphic and people can
describe all they want. But when they're faced with what actually happened, I think it makes it pretty
clear for these jurors.

Speaker 10: And where were you planning to go?

Speaker 5: We were going to Medellino restaurant.

Speaker 16: He was a charming guy, so he had lots of women in his life, but he was dating somebody at
the time. He was not in an affair with Nicole. So, you know, he was a 25-year-old kid just trying to find his
way in the world, you know, like the rest of us were at that age.

Speaker 17: Now on the night of June the 12th, did you happen to see Ron Goldman? Yes. Was he
working there also?

Speaker 16: Yes, he was. Nicole and her family came in for dinner after Sydney's recital.
Speaker 18: So we were trying to decide who would take the table, what stations we'd work. And at that
point, Ron saw the name and said, oh, it's Nicole Brown. It's a friend of mine. Do you recall what she was
wearing? Yes, a black dress, short black dress with a black blazer over it.

Speaker 17: Do you recall what time Nicole and her party left?

Speaker 18: Uh, between 8.30 and 9.45 ish. We got up and uh,

Speaker 5: we got up and we walked out and uh, Nicole was going to go get some ice cream with the
kids. And we kissed each other goodbye.

Speaker 19: The last thing I told her, I said I loved her.

Speaker 17: Okay, after Nicole and her party left, did you happen to see Ron Goldman? Yes, I did. Shortly
after that, did you get a phone call? Yes, I did. Remember what time approximately that you got that
phone call?

Speaker 20: It was about 9.30, 9.35. It was Mrs. Brown. Nicole's mother?

Speaker 17: Yes. And did she ask you to do something? She did.

Speaker 20: And what was that? Uh, she asked me to look for a pair of glasses she had lost at the
restaurant. And did you find the glasses? Yes, I did. Where did you find them? I found them in the street
by the gutter. And what did you do with them? I brought them back in and uh, I spoke to Mrs. Brown and
told her I'd found them. I put them in an envelope. Ms.

Speaker 17: Crawford, showing you what has been marked as People's 32. Do you recognize the
handwriting on the front of this envelope? Yeah, that's my handwriting. And it says prescription glasses,
Nicole Simpson. Will pick up Monday? Yes. About how long after the first phone call did you get the
second phone call? About five minutes. Would you estimate then about 9.45? Yes. Did you recognize the
person who called you? Yes, I did.

Speaker 20: Who was that? It was Nicole. She asked if she could speak to Ron. Do you recognize what
we're showing you here? Yes. What is it? It's Ron's shirt and pants. Oh yeah.

Speaker 17: After he hung up the phone, did Ron say something to you?

Speaker 20: Uh, yeah, he told me he was going to drop the glasses off at Nicole's.

Speaker 17: So did you give him the envelope with the glasses? Uh, yes. Did you see him leave the
restaurant at some point? Yes, I did. Do you recall about what time it was?

Speaker 20: He left at about 10 minutes to 10. I saw him walk out the door.

Speaker 17: And was that the last time you saw him? Yes.

Speaker 21: He went to help someone out. nd return those glasses and lost his life trying to help.
Speaker 22: Music The state's timeline was that O.J. Simpson was last seen around 940 or something
when he returned from going to McDonald's with Cato Kalin. They then put the time of the murders at
about 10.15. That's when neighbors heard Nicole's dog barking and wailing and crying, and so they
believed that's when the murders happened.

Speaker 17: Music On June 12th of 1994, sir, in the evening, where were you?

Speaker 23: At 10 o'clock that evening I was watching the news in the master bedroom on the third floor
with my wife. 15 or 20 minutes into it I heard a very distinctive barking coming from somewhere to the
south of where I live. I was aware of it for maybe five, six, seven minutes, and at that point I stopped
watching the news and I left the master bedroom.

Speaker 17: Was there something unusual about that dog barking that drew your attention to it?

Speaker 23: It was fairly persistent. It was at a significant pitch, and as you may recall I described it at the
time as a plaintive whale. It sounded like a very unhappy animal.

Speaker 15: Music My question is, do you recall so indicating to the police that about 10.15 to 10.30
witnesses, you and your wife, heard a dog barking uncontrollably to the rear of their residence. So
indicate that to the police?

Speaker 23: No, sir, as I told you, I told them that I heard the dog barking between 10.15 and 10.20. So if
they have that wrong, they're wrong, right? That is possible because I did not say that.

Speaker 7: That dog would have marked when the actual crime was committed because the dog
somehow heard or was able to sense the violence that was taking place.

Speaker 17: As you looked at the dog and you examined it for a tag, did you happen to notice its paws or
its legs?

Speaker 24: First thing I noticed, it was above the paw, it was slightly on the leg. There was a streak of
blood or a drip of blood on one of the back paws, and that was unusual to me, so I observed more
closely and then saw that there was also blood on the bottom of the paws. As I walked the dog towards
Bundy along Montana, the dog pulled back.

The dog shied away from going towards Bundy. It kept pulling back towards my apartment complex. So
what did you do? So we walked the dog back to the courtyard of my building and I went upstairs to get
some water for the dog.

Speaker 17: Did someone that you knew from your apartment building appear in the courtyard?

Speaker 24: Yes, at that point, Shoe Crew was stepping my downstairs neighbor, entering from the back
entrance to my apartment complex.

Speaker 17: You had a conversation with Steven, right? Correct. And he told you where he found the
dog? Correct. So did you decide to take the dog back to that location? Yes. And what was that location
you took, you decided to take the dog back to? Bundy and Dorothy. Can you tell us what you saw?
Speaker 25: I saw a lady laying down full of blood. I could see the person was a lady. She was blonde. I
could see her arm. That's all about it. And that was about it? I turned to my wife and said that there was
a dead person there. And we tried to call 911. We decided to call 911.

Speaker 17: And what did you do to try and call 911?

Speaker 25: We crossed the street, ran to a house, knocked the door.

Speaker 26: My door chime started to ring, a ring. According to my recollection, a few minutes after
midnight, a few minutes after 12. Had that ever happened before?

Speaker 17: No. Did that scare you? Yes, definitely. Did you answer your door? Did you answer?

Speaker 26: I'm sorry. No, no, I did not answer my door. Not a few minutes after midnight. We wouldn't
go to a door that time of night. So what did you do? I called 911.

Speaker 3: My apologies for having kept you waiting so long this morning. There were some very delicate
matters that I had to inquire into this morning that took a significant period of time.

And I appreciate your indulgence in this matter. It became necessary for me to excuse one of the jurors
in this case. And we will now at this time ask Mrs. Robertson to draw the name of an altered juror to
replace that juror. Do you remember the 1489?

Speaker 14: This was significant because this third juror to be dismissed was a 63-year-old white woman.
And she was replaced by one of the alternates, naturally. The alternate who replaced her was a
54-year-old African-American man. So this made the number of African-American jury members be nine
at this point. And in a case like this where there's so much attention and such a high level of scrutiny
being paid to the case, folks were honing in on the jury makeup just as they were honing in on the
evidence being presented in court. So there were essentially two narratives going on. There's a narrative
inside the courtroom being played out through the introduction of evidence. And then there's also the
bigger conversation about race that surrounded this case in the media.

Speaker 1: It's week three of the People vs. OJ Simpson. And we hear from the first officer to discover
the bodies of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. He tells the jury that he saw a trail of blood drops leaving
the murder scene and bloody footprints as OJ 25 continues.

Speaker 27: It's Robert Risky, R-O-B-E-R-T-R-I-S-K-E. Good morning, officer. Good morning. My partner I
crossed the street and went to the walkway and we observed a female white in a black dress laying in a
puddle of blood on the walkway. We approached the body of the female and as we got probably two
feet from her body, we discovered the body of a male white laying against the north fence.

Speaker 28: My lieutenant John Rogers called. He said we have a double in West L.A. Right away I began
to think that there's not a lot of homicides in that part of town. It's an upscale, more upscale part of Los
Angeles. It was on Bundy Drive, which was an upscale area.

Speaker 17: In the first photograph to my left as I face it, upper left hand photograph, what does that
depict?
Speaker 27: That's a sidewalk on the west side of Bundy and the foot of the walkway leading up to A-75.

Speaker 17: And does that depict the scene as you found it when you first approached? Yes, ma'am. And
the second photograph to the right of that?

Speaker 27: The second photograph would be the victim, the female white in a black dress laying on the
walkway.

Speaker 17: And you can see that at the far, at the very rear of the photograph, upper part of the
photograph? That's correct. And the third one?

Speaker 27: The third one is the same picture of a female white in a black dress, but it's just closer.

Speaker 22: She had no shoes on. You could see, you know, just, you could see the life that had just been
there. These were, you know, two very young, vibrant people and they were just left like that.

Speaker 17: What did you see in that walkway?

Speaker 27: There's a pool of blood under the victim, the female white, and it flows down towards the
sidewalk.

Speaker 17: And in the blood, did you see any kind of patterns?

Speaker 27: Um, there was paw prints towards the sidewalk and there was a heel mark by the fence.

Speaker 17: Does this depict the woman as you found her and the scene as you found it when you first
approached? Yes. Can you tell us where you were standing in order to see that?

Speaker 27: To the left of the body, you could see a call box on the wall right there.

Speaker 22: It seemed if you watched J.J. Simpson that he knew when the camera was on him and he
would become more expressive, but it was hard to tell, like how much of it was play acting and how
much of it was real.

Speaker 10: Risky and his partner had a lot on their plate being the first responders. They needed help
and they needed it there initially to secure that crime scene and search the house. And that's what he
did.

Speaker 29: Officer Risky was a really sharp young officer that instead of just doing something wrong, he
would actually bear his soul that I don't know. Tell me, tell me, how do you handle this? How do you do
this? He was a really good officer and he did a really good job that day. Tell us what you saw.

Speaker 27: I saw the envelope there, the heel print. If you look at a picture closely, there's a glove and
what appears to be a knit cap under the plan on the right.

Speaker 17: After you made these observations, sir, what did you do next?
Speaker 27: My partner and I, seeing that the front door is open, there was a footprint, what appeared
to be bloody footprints going towards the front door. We stepped over the female victim and went to the
front door. We saw the shoe prints continue on down the walkway. We looked in the house.

There was a period of no evidence of ransacking or force entry. Officer McGowan put up the crime scene
tape. Sergeant Kuhn made sure nobody walked through the crime scene. And my partner, Officer Trazos,
went to the back security to a rear location.

Speaker 28: When I got there, I saw that the street was blocked off. They had this whole area cordoned
off properly. There was concern for the media because it was on a busy street, Bundy.

Speaker 17: In the course of your training, sir, at the academy, were you trained in crime scene
preservation?

Speaker 27: They kind of glossed over. They don't really train you.

Speaker 17: If you learn at some point in your duties, in your functional... On the job train. This is the
board, Your Honor, of 15 photographs. That's if you mark people's 45.

Speaker 3: All right, people's 45. Display with the 15 photographs of alleged shoe prints.

Speaker 17: All right, now, photograph GHI and J in that row. Can you tell us if you recognize what you're
showing there?

Speaker 27: So, a picture of what appears to be a bloody footprint.

Speaker 30: And do those look like the bloody shoe prints you saw that night? Yes. And on the bottom
row as well, sir? K and L.

Speaker 27: Two more of what appeared to be bloody shoe prints.

Speaker 30: And do they appear the way you found them, when you first came to the scene? Yes.

Speaker 10: Good morning, uh... Morning, sir. Mr. Risky, you had been a police officer for how long, on
June 12, 1994, when you responded to this location? Um... Four years, almost two months.

Four years, two months at that time? Yes, sir. You described for Ms. Clark that when you were at the Los
Angeles Police Academy, that they kind of glossed over this crime scene maintenance and training. Is
that correct? Right.

And much of what you've learned, you learned actually on the job, once you actually got in the field. Is
that correct? Yes, sir. Have you had any training and, um... the sensitivity of DNA? No.

Had the coroner's office been called at all by the time that you left? I don't know. I didn't.

You have no knowledge at all of that? Now, when the four detectives went over to Rockingham, do you
know whether or not the photographer went with them? I don't know. Do you know why it was then
that all four of the detectives then went over to Rockingham? No.
Speaker 28: One of the commanders showed up and he said, it's apparent now looking at the inside of
the house, talking to people who the woman is. She's Nicole Brown Simpson. The commander said, okay,
I want Furman and his partner to go, and I want you laying in Van Adder to go. The four of you will go up
there, contact O.J. Simpson.

Speaker 15: Do you know why it was that Furman returned to Bundy after 6.30 and was participating and
taking pictures? Do you know what that is? I want you to look at what's been marked 104 on People's 56.
You see the envelope here? Yes, sir.

You see where the grouting on the envelope, the envelope is across the ground. Yes, sir. You see that?
Yes, sir. You see the grouting here? Yes, sir. The envelope's on the other side of the grounding? Yes. Can
you explain how that envelope got moved? No. Can't? No.

Speaker 28: The corner comes along and they had to remove the bodies. She inadvertently touched the
envelope. It moved a little bit. Cockroach nose api, she's not stupid. We're going to get the cops every
way we can because there's just too damn much evidence.

Speaker 10: Back then you were allowed to meet your friends and family at the gate. And I remember
seeing my dad. And he was with a family friend and I remember just completely falling apart in my dad's
arms and walking through the airport just arm in arm.

It was eerily empty. Getting into the car, I remember KFI was a local radio AM station here and he was in
the car and the first words I heard were, you know, Ron Goldman and Nicole Branson slaughtered to
death in Brentwood.

Speaker 21: It was gut wrenching. You know, that Kim had to testify in a trial of the murder of her
brother. It was horrible. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Speaker 16: I testified in the case to my brother's clothing kind of being thrown around and so that there
wasn't a lot, it looked as if it was a quick, a quick wardrobe change. Kimberly Goldman,
K-I-M-B-E-R-L-Y-G-O-L-D-M-A-N. Ms. Clark. Thank you, Your Honor. Ms.

Speaker 17: Goldman, are you the sister of Ron Goldman? Yes, I am. Did you visit his apartment on
Gorham shortly after June the 12th? Yes, I did.

Speaker 16: I was overwhelmed with anxiety and fear and then feeling excited that I got to be part of it
because I thought it was going to be important that I was testifying to something and this is going to be
something important that the jury needs to hear and I look back and I'm like, I don't think it was all that
important, but at that moment I felt like I was doing something.

Speaker 17: Did you recover some clothing that you brought to court today? Yes, I did.

Speaker 30: And I'm showing you the bag in which we previously marked his people's 30, the white shirt
and the black pants. Yes, that's correct. Yes, I do. Can you tell us where he fell?

Speaker 16: They were draped over his bedroom door, the shirt and the pants. He was draped over? He'd
taken, obviously he'd taken them off and just swung them over the door. Not on hangers?
No. My father and I put them on the hangers. I was nervous to sit across on the killer. I was nervous to sit
on the stand. I was nervous to look at the jury even though I'd been looking at them. I now had a
different angle and now you suddenly think they're looking at you. You're not wearing the pants and
don't put too much out there and then it's just too much. Nobody prepares you for that.

Speaker 17: Did you see any other white dress shirt or black pants like that in the apartment? Only
those? Only those.

Speaker 3: All right. Ms. Goldman, thank you very much. You're welcome.

Speaker 16: I only know what happened that night based on the evidence that was presented during the
trial. I don't know any other information. Nicole's mom left her glasses behind and my brother offered to
drop them off on his way out that night. There was testimony that there was voices yelling, hey, hey, hey,
which I believe was my brother kind of coming up into what I believe was the killer physically pushing or
assaulting Nicole.

And my brother wanted to stop it. And if you follow the evidence again, Nicole was pushed back and she
has a contusion on the back of her head. And I believe that the killer attacked my brother first and then
went back and finished killing Nicole because my brother's blood was found on Nicole. If Nicole was
killed first, she would have found Nicole's blood on my brother. I can't.

Speaker 19: Every time I think about it, I try not to think about it because the images are too much.

Speaker 7: Ron Goldman was the classic case of wrong place, wrong time. It was just horrible. And Kim,
his sister, I don't believe has ever gotten over it.

Speaker 16: It's a really hard place to live because my brother doing anything other than what he did that
night would have been uncharacteristic of him as I have shared many times. My brother was my
protector growing up. He was fiercely loyal. Never wanted anybody to be wronged in any way. And so
stumbling into a scene where he's witnessing an acquaintance, a friend being attacked, how could I not
feel proud of him for trying to stop it? I wish in those selfish moments of my sleep that he would have
turned away and run for his life. But it just would have not been him. And so I choose to embrace that.
And in my mind, he's a hero.

Speaker 21: He was Kim's brother and best friend forever. Every picture that I ever took of them, they
were holding hands or hugging. Not because I asked them to, that's just how they were.

Speaker 10: I've always been super proud of my brother. I'm super proud of my dad. I'm proud of myself
because I think that who we were throughout this process was exactly who we are in our private life.

And I think that not unlike any other victim or survivor, you figure out a way to function within it in the
most honorable way that you can and to be able to be part of a movement that I think is so helpful and
so important. I'm really proud of all of that. I feel lucky that people got to see the two most important
people in my world. They raised me. I feel really, I feel really honored. And I hope that what my dad and I
are doing in the wake of my brother's murder does right by him. Because I have a legacy and I want my
son to be proud of me. So I don't know, I guess I'll find out one day, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The Judge's Decision Week three of the OJ Simpson trial ends with the promise of a change of
scenery. The judges decided the jury needs to visit a variety of locations, including the crime scene,
where Ron Goldman worked, and finally the home where Simpson and Nicole were once husband and
wife. That's Next on OJ 25. I'm Roger Kasek.

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