The Montauk Project know it!

Although this was a remarkable breakthrough in

and the Philadelphia Experiment terms of technology, it was a catastrophe to the people
involved. Sailors had been transported out of this dimension
and returned in a statc of complete mental disorientation and
In 1990, while living in Las Vegas, I attended a horror. Some were even planted into the bulkhead of the ship
lecture given about the Philadelphia Experiment at a itself. Those who survived were discharged as "mentally unfit"
local library. This presenter was Al Bielek and in or otherwise discredited and the entire affair was covered up.
about 2 and a half hours the story he told us about After the war, research continued under the tutelage of Dr.
his experiences is one I will never forget. Even John von Neumann who had directed the technical aspects of
though some of his claims were utterly fantastic, I the Philadelphia Experiment. His new orders were to find out
find that when there is something I read or hear and I what made the mind of man tick and why people could not be
can't shake it from my very being, to me, this is my subject to interdimensional phenomena without disaster. A
own self telling me I have heard something massive human factor study was begun at Brookhaven
important. National Laboratories on Long Island, New York. It was
known as the Phoenix Project.
One of the topics that was covered by Mr. Bielek's
talk was the Montauk Project where he mentioned
how he met Preston Nichols and that they Von Neumann was not only the inventor of the modern
recognized each other as long lost brothers. I would computer and a mathematical genius in his own right; he was
highly recommend that if this topic interests you, able to draw on the enormous resources of the military
please pick up the book done by Mr. Bielak and industrial complex which included the vast data base of Nazi
Brad Steiger called the PHILADELPHIA psychological rescarch that the Allies had acquired after World
EXPERIMENT AND OTHER UFO War II. It was against this background that von Neumann
CONSPIRACIES (Innerlight Publications, 1991). attempted to couple computer technology with sophisticated
radio equipment in an attempt to link people's minds with
I am includeding on this page some information that was machines. Over time, his efforts were quite successfull. After
posted to the snet mailing list which is excerpts from Preston years of empirical experimentation, human thoughts could
Nichols book on the subject. I believe that this Project is eventually be received by esouteric crystal radio receivers and
another example of the breakthroughs made in modern relayed into a computer which could store the thoughts in
technology as a result of contacts with extraterrestrials and that terms of information bits. This thought pattern could in turn be
all the events describe in this book is absolutely true. After the displayed on a computer screen and printed out on a piece of
information I received from snet is shared, I am also including paper. These principles were developed and the techniques
some other interesting information I have which is from notes were enhanced until a virtual mind reading machine was
I took of Mr. Bielak's lecture in 1990. constructed. At the same time, technology was developed so
that a psychic could think a thought that could be transmitted
out a computer and potentially affect the mind of another
ILLINOISThe Montauk Project human being. UItimately,the Phoenix Project obtained a
and the Philadelphia Experiment superior understanding of how the mind functions and
achieved the sinister potential for mind control. A full report
An Excerpt from was made to Congress who in turn ordered the project to be
Pryamids of Montauk: disbanded, at last in part for fear of having their own minds
Explorations in Conciouness controlled.
by Preston Nichols & Peter Moon (C) 1995
Private concerns that helped to develop the project did not
(Sky Books, Box 769, Westbury, New York 11590 follow the dictate of Congress and sought out to seduce the
militarv with the idea that this technology could be used in
warfare to control enemy minds. A secret group with deep
The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time was released in financial resources and some sort of military tie decided they
June of l992 and has created a stir of intrigue and queries for would establish a new research facility at Camp Hero, a
more information ever since. Montauk Revisited: Adventures derelic Air Force Station at Montauk Point. New York. This
in Synchronicity sought to answer many of those questions locale was chosen because it housed a huge Sage radar antenna
and ended up providing an even more elaborate scenario that that emitted a frequency of approximately 400-425 Megahertz
left us on the threshold of the occult and its relationship with coincidentally the same band used to enter the consciousness
the major mystery schools of Earth. The third book in the of the human mind. ln the late '60s, the reactivation of Camp
Montauk series, Pyramids of Montauk: Explorations in Hero began despite no funding from the military. By1972, the
Consciousness digs deeper into the psyche of the Montauk Montauk Project was fully underway with massive mind
phenomena and gives startling insights into the construction control experimentation being undertaken upon humans,
and drama of the universe. This prelude is designed to animal and other forms of consciousness that were deemed to
familiarize the first time reader who is new to the subject and exist.
also to reorient those who have read the first two books.
Over the years, the Montauk researchers perfected their mind
The origin of the Montauk Proiect dates back to 1943 when control techniques and continued to delve further into the far
radar invisibility was being researched aboard the USS reaches of human potential. By developing the psychic
Eldridge. As the Eldridridge was stationed at the Philadelphia abililies of different personnel, it eventually got to the point
Navy Yard, the events concerning the ship have commonly where a psychic's thoughts could be amplified with hardware,
been referred to as: the "Philadelphia Experiment". The and illusions could be manifested both subjectively and
objective of this experiment was to make the ship undetectable objectively. This included the virtual creation of matter. All of
to radar and while that was achieved, there was a totally this was unparalleled in the history of what we call "ordinary
unexpected and drastic side effect. The ship became invisible human experience" but the people who ran the Montauk
to the naked eye and was removed from time and space as we Project were not about to stop. They would reach even further
into the realm of the extraordinary. Once it was discovered that indeed quite real.
a psychic could manifest matter, it was observed that it could
appear at different times, depending on what the psychic was
thinking. Thus, what would happen if a psychic thought of a I came upon Preston while researching an elaborate sound
book but thought of it appearing yesterday? It was this line of system he had invented and soon found myself listening to a
thinking and experimentation which led to the idea that one spectacular story that was at least better science fiction than I'd
could bend time itself. After years of empirical research, time ever heard. After several months, I decided to undertake
portals were opened with massive and outrageous experiments writing The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time. That book
being conducted. The Montauk Project eventually, came to a was written without consulting anyone other than Preston
bizarre climax with a time vortex being opened back to 1943 (who wanted to protect his sources). Rather than do a costly
and the original Philadelphia Experiment. and time consuming investigation, my strategy was to get the
information out as fast as possible and use the book to gather
other clues that would corroborate or eventually prove the
None of this information would have come to light except for existence of this incredible story.
Preston B. Nichols, an electronic genius who one day
discovered that he was an unwitting victim of the experiments. As The Montauk Project was published further research and
Working for a Long Island defense contractor, Preston war events continued that would indeed establish that there was a
researching telepathy in psychics and found that persistent real scenario behind the wild information Preston was talking
radio waves were being transmitted which were blocking the about. These were chronicled in Montauk Revisited. but the
people he was working with. As a radio and electronics expert, most spectacular of all these corroborations was the discovery
Preston traced the radio signals directly to the Montauk Air that the Montauk Project was inextricably linked to the most
Force Station and began exhaustive research that lasted over a infamous occultist of all time: Aleister Crowley, often
decade. He acquired much of the equipment that was used described as "the wickedest man in the world". According to
during the Montauk Project and discovered to his dismay that reports, Crowley himself had used the practice of sexual
many people from Montauk remembered him working there. It magick in order to manipulate time itself, communicate with
came to a culmination point when his cousin's husband disembodied entities and to travel interdimensionally. It was
insisted that he had been at Montauk. The two men almost even suggested that the interdimensional nature of the
came to blows over Preston's contention that he had never Philadelphia Experiment could have been the outward
been at Montauk. Shortly after this argument, Preston began to expression of Crowley's magical operations.
get glimmers of a life he'd not previously been aware of. After
talking to many different scientists and engineers who had Thc startling proof of Crowley's association developed over a
some sort of association with the Montauk Project, Preston long period of time, but the discovery began to take shape in
was able to put together what had happened. Somehow, he had my very, first conversation with Preston when he seemed to
survived on two separate time lines. On one, he worked at blurt out of the blue that he was connected to the magician
Montauk; on the other, he worked at a different location. Aleister Crowley. In an earlier life, he believed that both
hirnself and Duncan had been Preston and Marcus Wilson,
Preston's discoveries were confirmed when a strange man by respectively. These brothers were twins and had been the first
the name of Duncan Cameron appeared at his door in 1985. manufacturers of scientific instruments in Great Britain. In
Duncan had an uncanny aptitude for psychic research and addition to being friends of Aleister Crowley's family, they had
eventually claimed to have been trained in this field by the also been involved in a joint business enterprise with them.
NSA (National Security Agency). Without mentioning his own
ordeal with Montauk, Preston took Duncan out to Montauk All of the above sounded like one more wild story, so I hegan
and was surprised to discover that he knew the entire layout of to look for any references to the Wilsons in Aleister Crowley's
the base and remembered working there. Duncan was various books. None turned up. To my surprisc though, I
considered to be the primary psychic used in the time travel discovered that not only had Crowley visited Montauk (in
experiments and also remembered having been aboard the 1918) but he had mentioned a "Duncan Cameron" in his
U.S.S. Eldridge during the original Philadelphia Experiment autobiography. Subsequent to this, numerous instances of
with his brother Edward (now recognized as Al Bielek). synchronicity between the Cameron and Crowley families
were discovered, (these are detailed in Montauk Revisited but
According to the accounts of both Preston and Duncan, the I still could not find any references to the Wilson brothers.
Montauk Project culminated on August 12, 1983. A full blown
time portal was fully functioning, but things were out of
control and Duncan called together a group of people and The meaning of these various synchronicities (between the
decided to crash the project. While sitting in the Montauk Cameron name and Crowley) began to be explained when I
Chair (a device connected to esoteric radio receivers studded found out about a woman who called herself "Cameron". She
with crystals that sent thoughts out of a giant transmitter), is perhaps most famous for having been married to Jack
Duncan unleashed a giant beast from his subconscious which Parsons, the world's first solid fuel rocket scientist and a
literally destroyed the project. The people who had been disciple of Crowley. Together, they had participated in an
working on the base suddenly abandoned it. The air shafts and interdimensional activity known as the Babalon Working (a
entrances to the major underground facility beneath the base ceremonial act which included sex magick and has been hailed
were subsequent14- filled with cement. The full circumstances by some as thc greatest magical act of the century).
behind all ol this remain a mystery to this day.
Through a further series of incredible synchronicitiesn I would
Although an unauthorized video had been widely distributed fly to Southern California on other business and meet a friend
regarding this story and several lectures had been given on the of Cameron's quite by "accident". Discovering to my surprise
Montauk Project, no book was forthconing on the subject. that she lived in California, I soon found myself tellingher
Different writers had attempted to undertake the task but were about the Philadelphia Experiment, the Montauk Project, and
either mentally incapable of dealing with the subject or were the Crowley/Cameron relationship. Much to my surprise, she
frightened off one way or the other. One science reporter for informed me that her real name wasn't Cameron at all. It was
the New York Times started the project but backed off when he Wilson!
discovered to his own surprise that the Montauk Project was
lt now became obvious that Preston 's story about being a First you will read Al's account of the years leading up to the
Wilson could not be discounted nor could his general "Philadelphia Experiment. " Then, for the first time in any
credibility be denied. Perhaps more importantly, it revealed magazine, Al shares further information on other, less known
that some very strange correspondences were at work that had experiments that continue to this day. Experiments that took
to do with interdimensionality. place, and apparently, still do, at Montauk, Long Island.

Alfred Bielek was born on August 4, 1916 as Edward A.

I would receive an astonishing letter several months later that Cameron II, son of Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr.
would close the case as regards whether or not the Wilson
brothers had existed. It was from a man named Amado
Crowley who claimed to be an illegitimate son of Aleister ----------------------
Crowley. Not only did he remember his father talking about
the Wilson brothers. but he also provided clues which revealed
that the odds of his lying ahout his parentage were nil. AL BIELEK: My father (Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr.)
enlisted in the U.S. Navy prior to the U.S. entry into World
Amado not only verified the existence of the Wilson brothers, War 1. He sired me and later A. Duncan Cameron, Jr. (May
he gave a spectacular account of his father's whereabouts on 1917), by different mothers.
August 12, 1943 (the day of the Philadelphia Experiment).
Aleister had directed a magical ceremony at Men-an-Tol in Both Duncan and I, as half-brothers, were raised largely by
Cornwall, England where a large donut style rock lays upright Aunt Arnold in the Big House, still in West Islip, Long Island
in the water. According to Amado, Aleister put him through the (father remained in the Navy until 1930, when he was retired
hole in the rock whereupon a line of rough water ran from the with a pension). Since there was no lack of money (due to the
coast of England to Long Island, New York. Arnold/Constable Department Store fortune), Duncan Jr. and I
(upon completion of high school) attended different
For the most part, this is where the book Montauk Revisited universities. I went first to Princeton, and later to Harvard,
ends'. obtaining a Ph.D. in physics. Duncan attended the University
of Edinborough (Edinborough, Scotland), also obtaining a
Amazing discoveries were made which showed that Preston Ph.D. in physics, in the summer of 1939.
was not off his rocker and that his general line of reasoning
was valid. That is what this book was meant to do. In September of 1939, both Duncan and I enlisted in the U.S.
Additionally, it showed that the forces which manifested the Navy-taking commissions as Lt. (J.G.) and then attending a
Montaok Project were deeply entrenched in the occult. 90-day training school for "Special Assignment" Navy
personnel at Providence, Rhode Island.
While Montauk Revisited did reveal a fascinating; web of
intrigue that is unparalleled in certain respects, it did not With completion of training, we were both assigned to the
deliver many final conclucions. But even though we were Ieft Institute of Advanced Study (Princeton, N.J.) and directly to
hanging at the edge of our seats with many unanswered the ongoing "Project Invisibility."
questions, the book did accomplish something very important.
It ushered us to the very threshold of the mystery schools, With a completely successful test in 1940 (Brooklyn Navy
those secret organizations which have exsisted since timt Yard), the project was classified and renamed "Project
immemorial and have sought to regulate our conciousness and Rainbow." Offices were set up in the Philadelphia Navy Yard.
personal freedom. It is at this point that we open the door to Duncan and I both shuttled back and forth between
our current book: The Pyramids of Montauk: Explorations in Philadelphia and Princeton.
Conciousness.

In January 1941, we were sent to sea for sea duty on the U.S.S.
pp 9-15 Pennsylvania. We toured the Pacific until October 194 1, when
the Pennsylvania was put in dry dock at Pearl Harbor. After
taking leave in San Francisco and remaining there through
December 1941, we were returned to the Institute early in
January 1942. We worked on the project through 1942-Nikola
Interview with Al Bielek Tesla dropped out in March 1942, and Dr. John Von Neumann
( Connecting Link, Issue 19 ) took over at that time.

Duncan and I remained with the Project through the two tests
From: [email protected] (Robert K. Rouse) in 1943 with the "Eldridge." The second test, August 12, 1943,
Subject: The Bielek Interview was a total disaster, with many casualties and with Duncan
Date: 16 Oct 93 08:10:40 GMT disappearing permanently.
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services
(408 241-9760 guest) I remained with the Navy and married in late 1943. A son,
Jess, was bom in February 1944. In July 1944, the family and I
were transferred to Los Alamos, New Mexico, where I
INTERVIEW: Al Bielek Conducted by Suanne Konicov remained until July 2, 1947. At that time I was forcibly
( from CONNECTING LINK issue 19 ) removed and separated from my family-never to see them
again.

I have heard Al Bielek speak on the "Philadelphia Experiment

" at several expos over the last two years. The material he With charges of espionage placed against me, I expected a
presents is both astounding and appalling! Last September, at General Court Marshal. Instead I was transferred to
the Los Angeles Whole Life Expo, Al consented to do an Washington, D. C., whereupon charges were dropped and I
interview for Connecting Link. was transferred to Montauk, L.I. military base (Fort Hero).
From that point I was time shifted to 1983, back in the But the aliens provided the expertise, the hardware. They
Phoenix Project. Once there, I was given a super convened it from their computer data to IBM 360. That still
brainwashing-all memory was removed. Additionally, I was didn't work and that's when other changes were made. I
age regressed (reduction of physical age and size from a 30- became heavily involved in making the time tunnel system
year old to approximately I year of age) and then, at a physical work. It was alien technology. We did not have the theory. We
age of 1 year, sent back in time to 1927 to be plugged into a did have the capability, the technological expertise to build the
new family as a substitute for a dead son. This new family- the hardware, and we did, to their specifications.
Bieleks- became my only known parents for over half a
century! ITT was a contractor. This was all under "Black Card"
clearance level, which is about the highest level of clearance
With the advent of World War II, I was drafted into the Navy there is, and most people don't even know it exists. And this
in 1945 (a second tour) as a seaman until 1946. After means, in essence, that it is such a deep Black Hole project
separating from the service, I tried a business venture (it that all the records, everything connected with it, is buried in a
failed) and went on to college (1949-1950) in Newark, New black vault and nobody has access to this without having the
Jersey, and later to UCLA. A career followed as an electronic proper clearance and a need to know. This includes purchasing
engineer (1958-1988), with retirement in 1988. departments who buy the hardware for these projects. The
records for the sales, purchase, everything, buried in the black
With the retum of my memories, in May 1986, of the Phoenix vault. So nobody can find it. This is why they call it a Black
Project and of the Philadelphia Experiment (Project Rainbow) Hole project. There are many, many of these. This is one of
in January 1988, 1 have engaged in extensive lecturing and them.
writing on the subject of The Philadelphia Experiment, its
ramifications and the follow-on Project Phoenix, and the
incredible consequences of the lockup through time. The tunnels became fully operational about '77 after many
changes. About '79 on they got all the results they wanted.
Until August 12,1983, at night, when the project was
CONNECTING LINK: Tell me about the Phoenix Project. deliberately crashed. Sabotaged from the inside. That's
covered in the book. But prior to that what they did was
unbelievable.
AL BIELEK: I'll deal with the final phase of the Phoenix
Project and some of the aspects involved. I joined the project One of the uses of the Phoenix Project, in the use of Time
in 1953 as Al Bielek. I did what the book The Montauk Tunnels, was to provide backup to the Martian Colonies. The
Project* points out, the computer interface between the Martian Colonies have been there since the early '70s. We
psychic chair used to steer the time tunnels in the final phase went publicly to the moon in 1969. Actually the Germans were
of the operations. Those earlier phases were very difficult-they there in 1947. And we were there in 1962 with a joint U.S.-
didn't work right and they had many problems. But, I became Russian expedition. They went to Mars, May 22, 1962. The
involved as Al Bielek. Preston Nichols became involved as movie, Altenative 3, done by Anglia Television, April 1, 1977,
Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron became involved as which is available in the underground, outlines it completely. It
Duncan Cameron, in his second body, not remembering shows the actual transmission. The color shots by TV back
anything about his involvement with the Philadelphia from Mars, as this Explorer moved and landed. We have
Experiment. colonies there in Mars from the late '60's or maybe early '70's
onward. They found many artifacts there. There is more than
The project generated the time tunnels. People were able to one wrecked city. And of course the famous face on Mars, the
travel in time and space and they did. But they also had other Pyramids and that whole complex that Hoagland (Dr. Richard]
projects going on at Montauk. We still don't know all of them. has talked about and gone public on. There are two videos on
this plus his book.
The technology for the tunnels was given to us by cooperative
effort of alien groups, primarily the Orion group, which What they found on the surface indicated there was much
involved reptilians, a sub group called the Leverons. A more there that they could not find that was buried. And they
technical group which provided most of the assistance, was the had not brought with them, and did not have the capabilities of
group from Sirius A. Very materialistic, scientific, people. heavy earth-moving equipment on Mars at that time. They
Perhaps not a bad heart but misdirected, because they had very didn't have any Cats. Big tractors and that sort of stuff. They
long-term contracts with the Orions to provide them with the were too heavy to bring up.
technical knowledge and assistance they needed. And they
were working with our govenment in secret to work out
mindcontrol techniques and technology and pushing for a So, a request went by radio back to Earth, "We believe there
highly automated, technical society which would be much are underground installations here. We've seen openings that
easier to control than it would be the way it is now. But we're are sealed. Can you guys down there tell us what to do?" Well,
approaching that rapidly. the information went to Montauk, to the Phoenix Project. And
they sent back information, "Well, give us some coordinates
(*The Montauk Project - Experiments in Time, on the surface of Mars where you think these locations are."
Preston B. Nichols with Peter Moon. Sky Books, Box And they did. And they said, "We'll investigate it." And they
769, Westbury, N.Y. 11590) did. Because they could go anyplace with the tunnel, they went
to Mars to the coordinates.

Also there were a lot of little greys that got underfoot. There And first they didn't send anybody. They ran a tunnel into what
were other groups there who took no part in the project, but they thought might be an underground area and rather than risk
were there as observersand the group from Antares, very killing anybody by burying them in solid rock, they sent a
human, very happy, jovial people. You couldn't tell them from camera, a remote-view camera. We found out there was an
a human spirit. In fact, I don't think you could anatomically actual cavern and it was safe and then Montauk sent people.
either. Why they were there, I don't know. They didn't do Duncan and I were in that crew. The first crew that went,
anything. They were observers. directed by Montauk to explore the underground of Mars. It's
not mentioned in the book who went, but we went. And there up as a park.
were probably others. We went several times. We found all
kinds of artifacts. We found a still functional underground They knocked the fences down so people can go through there
lighting system, a power system. We found it and turned it on and hike and camp if they want, during the day. They cannot
and it still worked. No evidence of life. A lot of artifacts, files, stay ovenight without a special permit from Montauk
records, religious artifacts, statuary, all stored like it was a Township. That's not allowed and the park rangers go in to
store room. A huge store room. shuttle them out.

But the property remains unconverted. Going in there, as I did,

first in August of '85 by the invite of Preston (I took Duncan
with me), none of us knew, at that time, that we had been part
CONNECTING LINK: Was the written material in English? of the Montauk Project. Preston, as a surplus electronics
dealer, had been out there salvaging equipment previous to this
trip in August.
AL BIELEK: No. It was in another language. It was not
English. Duncan was able to translate some of it. I saw it, but I
was not able to translate it. And a lot of the records and stuff
were brought back. And eventually Duncan and I decided to
take some clandestine trips on our own. (After one trip is CONNECTING LINK: That's where the book, The Montauk
made, it's all recorded. All the coordinates and information Project starts.
which are required to operate the system is recorded on
magnetic tape. And you can take this tape, plug it into the
computer, and without going through the psychic and the chair AL BIELEK: Right. And he didn't know that he had been
number*, you can open the tunnel to the same location involved. He had no recollection. This August trip [Preston]
because the computer contains all the celestial data-all the took us out and said "You're both sensitives. Let's see what you
Earth movements, solar system movements, all in the pick up when we go out there." He says, "I know you've never
computer-so that there is complete reference to the new been there before." He didn't know, honestly, at that point. So
location where the planet would be. And "plug" the tunnel in we went out and we sensed these terrible vibes on the base,
exactly the same location.) So we went twice on our own for that something awful had been going on there. We sensed this
our own little explorations. monster, who showed up at the end of the story, that helped in
the process of the destruction of this station.

They [Preston and Duncan] of course, had the advantage,

being as I was only visiting, and went back to Phoenix. They
CONNECTING LINK: And no one was manning the were there in repeatedly, and they became aware of their
machine for you back home? involvement in the project much earlier then I did.

I went back [to Montauk] in May of '86 and made another visit
AL BIELEK: We tumed the equipment on,we knew how to along with a group from Phoenix sponsored by, I believe,
do it. And nobody was there. On the second trip, we were Senator Barry Goldwater. Because I told this group, whom I
discovered because, there are automatic recorders that tell how knew from December of '85, about the project and they came
many times this equipment is used, and for what purpose, and out to make an investigation of possible diversion of federal
what dates, times and so forth. Automatic complete time, event funds from a regular federal project to an illegal project. They
recorders. So we were caught when we came back. We were were looking for proof. And that was their modus operandi,
pulled off the project and slapped on the wrist. "You're not their reason for getting passes from the State of New York,
going to do that anymore," and one of the people who was from the Parks Commission, to go on the base, into locked
involved, a senior scientist, broke our team up. Duncan and I buildings. There were still some locked. And find what proof,
didn't do much of anything together after that but further if any, as to whether this was a diversionary project using
explorations were made by others. What they found, we don't federal funds.
know.
We know now no federal money was involved. Major
Certain people had been chosen in advance, such as myself investigations have proven this. But in the process we took a
and Duncan and Preston to be part of this program. And the lot of pictures, and in that same visit that time of May '86 my
level of brainwashing varied. Duncan was heavily memory of Montauk started to come backbecause I was
programmed, brainwashed to do what he did there because he visiting the site, the scene of the crime, if you will.
was not being used for his technical expertise. I was
brainwashed to some extent, and Preston, very heavily.

But we were all given what you'd call the debriefing after this CONNECTING LINK: And it was acting as the trigger.
whole project crashed and was formally declared over on
January 1, 1984. We all got our debriefings which means your
mind was erased of everything you ever did on the project. AL BIELEK: This was the trigger. The same for Duncan,
And they hoped it would hold indefinitely. same for Preston. So my memories came back. I knew then I
was part of it. And they've been coming back ever since
It didn't. The reason it did not hold indefinitely was because because it doesn't all come back at once in a rush.
the site was not destroyed. It's still there. It was tumed over to
New York State Parks Commission on January I of 1986 or It comes back in chunks and pieces, depending upon what the
sometime in January of 1986 to become part of the park that triggers are that bring it back. But once you've punched a hole
already exists out there. The State has never torn anything up. through the wall, it's like the finger in the dike. The hole starts
They've never tom a building down. They've never opened it expanding and it keeps expanding and eventually it will all
come through. loaded with technology. And the reason for crashing it was that
the German High Command, if they were pushed, could say,
So I knew, finally, I was heavily involved at an administrative "Yeah we found a crashed saucer in the Bavarian Alps" or
and engineering level in many projects. Duncan was involved some such place, "and we recovered it, took it apart and
in more than one project. analyzed the technology."

It certainly wasn't made public. But the remains of that craft

Preston was the technical station master after Matthew Zaret. were found near Peenemunde after the war was over. This was
Professor Zaret was removed in 1980. Really, he left at my the rocket testing base for the Germans and where Wernher
suggestion, but they wouldn't let him loose, so he went to the Von Braun operated along with his crew. When the war was
parallel project at Brentwood, Long Island, where he died. over, he deliberately moved his group to the west, to the
Preston took over as the technical director, doing all of the Americans. And another group was captured by the Russians,
management. He designed and built all of the RF transmitters including, I believe, his professor, Herman Oberth. Of course
and pulse modulator systems-anything dealing with RF* and that is where the Russians got a head start on rocketry over the
transmitters he is an expert at. And that was his expertise and U. S. -they had the professor who taught Wernher Von Braun!
his normal working job, as he was employed by an aerospace
company in Long Island for fifteen years until he was fired There may have been someone else because the Russians
two summers ago. He was fired but they covered it. It was captured quite a number of intelligencia out of Germany when
because he knew too much and talked too much in the open, Berlin came under their control. So the war actually received a
had recovered too many of his memories and was talking huge boost, technologically from the Pleiadians. So far as
about information at the USPA [United States Psychotronic deals are concerned, Roosevelt made the first one in the U.S.
Association] conferences, more than once, which the in 1934, not with the Pleiadians, who offered to help the U.S.
govemment didn't want made public. So they pulled his get out of the doldrums of the huge depression we were in, but
clearance first, and then they canned him in July of '90 while he chose a different group for whatever personal reasons we
at a USPA conference. He came back to no job, He was told, don't know. Called the K Group or the Kondroshkin. It tums
"You're finished, pick up your stuff and leave." And his boss out, so far as I can determine today, they are the bluegreys.
didn't even know why. His boss didn't fire him. It was Not the little greys, but a larger group called the blue-greys.
govemment manipulation.

He was an expert at designing transmitters, high-power In any case, he made his deal with them. They made an offer
transmitters, for radar, for whatever. In this case, the Montauk to provide a whole new technological base for the United
Project, for the final stages of a special Amplitron, which is States atomic energy in 1938. Roosevelt at first approved and
shown in the book-there is a photo of it. It was designed and then he tumed it down because the military told him, "Uh uh.
built specially for the project by Raytheon Electric in Goleta, We can't control it from beginning to end. We don't know what
Califomia.** I remember going out there to approve the first they are going to do with it and how they may manipulate us
shipment of tubes. They were very, very expensive and in the end." So they [the K-Group] disappeared in the
specially built. They cost several million dollars apiece. They woodwork.
ordered thousands. So you can see why the cost of this project
went out of sight. Capacitors for the pulse-forming networks In 1943 came the Philadelphia Experiment and the lock-up
and the modulator were also specially designed to very rigid with the Phoenix Project, ripping a huge hole in space-time.
specifications. They finally got somebody to build them. And This was deliberately done by the aliens at the '83 end to put a
everybody in the industry except one tumed them down. They rift in the fabric of space-time so large numbers of aliens and
finally were able to build them to the specifications, and they ships could come through. They all had time travel
sold them to the govemment in matched sets of fifty at the capabilities, but the rift was needed to get the large ships
very small sum of twenty-five thousand dollars for each and through and make a mass invasion of the United States, and
every capacitor. And they had a hundred on each station. A full later Europe, of aliens (primarily greys) and other types. When
set of fifty for two transmitters, operational, and a full set of they landed at Edwards Air Force Base in the Muroc Dry Lake
spares. So that was two and a half million dollars right as well as another air baseI'm leaving a lot of details out-the
theretimes 25 stations! govemment already knew all about the aliens being on this
planet. [They knew] since 1887 with the first investigating
They ran out of gold. (The project was begun with 10 billion commission under Grover Cleveland.
dollars in g old. The story of the gold is documented in the
book Nazi Gold.) They ran out of money. So ITT picked up
the tab. In any case, they knew that they were here, but then they came
en masse. We were confronted by a technology that we
(*Radio frequency electromagnetic transmissions- couldn't counter, we couldn't handle it, we didn't know what to
especially related to radar.) do about it. So the agreement with Eisenhower and his
advisors was to sign a treaty with them, a noninterference
(**The R & D facility. Production was at Weymouth, treaty and get what technology we could from them-make
MA - over 4,000 amplitrons were produced.) some kind of agreement. We'd buy time and see what we could
do about it later.

That was the basis of the agreement Because of that, very large
numbers of aliens came in and eventually became part of the
CONNECTING LINK: And all this technology was from the Phoenix Project. They were planning ahead. We didn't know
alien groups? what they were up to. And I'm looking at this in retrospect, not
what we knew then. They were planning ahead. They knew
what they were doing. They maneuvered and manipulated the
AL BIELEK: They had cooperation from the ET's. See, they Phoenix Project. They did not expect it to crash then. I am sure
had a crashed UFO which was deliberately crashed, by they anticipate its continuing for another decade, at least into
agreement with Hitler, by a certain group of Pleiadians. It was the '90's.
However, because certain people suddenly, if you will pardon year cycle, and August, '93 will be a very critical area again
the expression, "saw the light," got religion, or whatever it is and they probably want the station activated before August of
that hit them, Duncan, and a few others, conspired to destroy '93. That's what we feel technically they are up to. But what
the station. And the reason for it was that they were fed up the end purpose is for we are not sure. It may be to extend the
with what they saw as all the evils perpetrated there. time tunnel, that is, the time rift, for purposes of their own.

I knew about it. I decided that I would not be part of the

destructive plot. I said, "Yes, there is a lot wrong here, but There are a lot of things on this project we don't know. Some
we've already straightened a lot of the mess out and we can of the things they used it for we still don't know. We have
straighten out the rest and continue this as a research tool," as never had access to the classified records of Lincoln Labs at
John VonNeumann (who is still alive today by the way) M.I.T. (Cambridge, MA).
wanted. He said, "It's a research tool; we need it." Because of
the time travel (remote viewing) capabilities, he saw things They have not been able to take Duncan and myself out
coming in the future which could cause very serious threats to because of the fact that we help hold the whole time rift stable.
the United States and the World. It will stabilize itself by the year 2003 unless they reopen it.
Then you have another can of worms to deal with.

But, these people had their way. They put a special implant They just don't realize what risks they are running in
into Duncan's head so that when we, as the original Duncan reopening that thing. The rift was stabilized in '63, or this
Cameron and myself as Edward Cameron, came through from North American continent would now be under salt water. Not
the Philadelphia Experiment and went through the station (for from the year 2000, but it would have been in 1963. There was
twelve hours) we were retumed to the Elderidge; then the a special project created, now well covered, to restabilize the
Elderidge retumed to '43. At that point, that phase was over reverse time wave which would have hit the forward one in '63
and it completed the time loop. at the node point and wrecked this continent.

Then the word went out, "Now is the time" and Duncan It was due to the fact that they had this time rift, and because it
released this thing from his subconscious into the machine. was unstable in the way it was generated (like a standing wave
The transmitter (which already by that time had its own in an RF transmission line). You may not understand RF
personality) created this big monster, solidly in 3-D, twelve to theory, but you get a reverse wave in an unterminated or
fifteen feet high and [it] literally came out of the subconscious. improperly terminated line. Time is a wave as well. You can
It went around smashing buildings and people and it was have a forward time wave and you can have a reverse time
discovered trying to break into the radar tower. The tower was wave. If the two of equal amplitude hit each other at a node
much too strong for it to break into. The only way to stop it point, which is the earth synchronization point, like August
was to destroy the transmitter, and that's what was done. And it 12th, 1963, they can be extremely disruptive, physically, to the
faded out into some other reality. It was photographed in May physical structure of the earth.
of 1986.

And being that this project took place in the United States, on
But the final chapter on Montauk was not written. We Long island, those who looked at it in theory said it would
discovered a month ago [Aug., 1992) that Montauk was have caused an extreme disruption of geological matter,
reactivated. And that's what I wanted to get in here. We do not pulling it out of the earth, in the North American Continent. It
know who is doing it. We have seen the evidence. New coax would have wound up wrecking the tectonic plates, and the
cable runs, new power transformers being put in on the power North American continent, other than the mountains, would
substation. The new ones are labeled "non PCB." Because now have wound up under salt water-500 to 700 feet of it by
the law is that transformers can no longer be filled with PCB estimate.
as a cooling agent: if they blow up or break open it's an
extreme hazard to the environment. So they use an It didn't happen, obviously-we're here. The '63 project,
environmentally safe coolant-a different form of liquid in the "Atlanticus Not Revisited," was successful in damping that
transformers and they have big labels on them that say non- reverse time wave. This is an area of science and technology
PCB. I have pictures of this, from my trip a month ago. There and physics which most people know nothing about.
are new coax cable runs around the base which are brand new.
We hope that if the project is revived that it will be used
The radar tower now has a new steel door where it used to be properly rather than improperly as it was in the past, though
wide open and you could walk in. They put a new steel door in there were some very good uses for the Montauk Project. In a
with double padlocks so you can't get in . The back garage larger view, it might be better left buried. Only time will tell
entrance door for trucks and delivering heavy stuff is now what will happen, and whether or not I will play any part with
sealed from the inside. And we found other evidence that it. They have not asked me. They don't want to. All we can do
shows that it's being reactivated. is hope for the best for the future and that the mistakes of the
past will be understood and that somehow the future will come
Preston has been approached by the govemment to become the out the better for it in spite of the problems we know we face.
director of the New Montauk project, And they told him they
also want Duncan as part of it. There are new workers there.
There are new entrances to the underground. One person we Connecting Link carries Al Bielek Workshop (2 tapes), "The
know has been through the outer door and there is an inner Philadelph Experiment." $10 Use order form.
locked door with a red light on it. You, have to have special
access badges or you'll be stopped. For speaking and professional engagements, contact Mr.
Bielek at P.O. Box 44932, Phoenix, AZ, 85064.
We did not attempt to go in because we didn't feel we wanted ============================================
to risk it. And we do not know where the project may go, but ================
we suspect that one of the goals is to extend the time rift ('43 Robert K. Rouse
to '83) onward to '93 because '93 is a subnode point in the 20-
 [email protected] intervene in key events to change the world which produced a
============================================ new timeline or a parallel earth). Apparently, how the Universe
================ preserves order and prevents a paradox from happening is it
generates alternative time lines.

What I mean by this, is say I go back in time and kill my

grandfather. How could this be possible? If my grandfather
died, I would never be born to kill him. What apparently
Al Bielak's Lecture happens in this case, is that the timeline I left, continues as is,
( Las Vegas, December, 1990, with no changes except that I no longer exist there as by
recorded by Joshua Shapiro ) generating this new timeline, I forfeit my chance to return to
my own timeline. When I killed my grandfather, a new
timeline starts minuses my grandfather but I must remain in
this altered timeline.
Mr. Bielak said that he and Preston were the two sailors that
were running some special equipment on the Ethridge, the Lastly, I attended a party in Las Vegas that Mr. Bielak was at,
U.S. Navy ship which was turned invisible in 1943, known as and he talked about some other interesting subjects. First he
the Philadelphia Experiment, since the boat was docked in stated that the so-called "Grey" Aliens do exist and that we
Philadelphia. He claims that the movie, "The Philadelphia have received some technology from them and that they do
Experiment" is essentially correct except when he and his have a plan to make the earth their new home. Also he stated
brother jumped over the ship, when it was in hyperspace, they that the Greys are following the guidance of the Serpent race,
did not land in the future in the desert of Nevada, but at the the Repetilian race from Orion. That the Orions have great
secret base in Montauk, NY in 1984. For you see, he claims, trouble living on the earth because our environment is not
the Government tried the same experiment 41 years later, on hospital for them and that the Greys are helping to prepare the
the same date and time, and opened up a hole in time between way for the Orions, who have basically enslaved their race. He
the two eras. If this hole was not closed, then our world could stated that there have been battles fought in space between a
have been destroyed. Confederation of Planets and the Greys and ETs from Orion.
Mr. Bielak stated that his brother decided to stay in the future, Next he talked about what has happened when the time tunnel
and he agreed to go back to 1943, to close the hole by was used at Montauk to go into the future. He stated that for
destroying the equipment onboard the Ethridge. He did some reason, they could never penetrate the years 2011-2013.
accomplish this task and the holes were closed. He said that in He also stated that the technology is so good, they could pull
1984 in Montauk, that through contact with the Aliens, they you out, ship you to another time period and bring you back so
had a time tunnel that existed there. Also he stated that a UFO fast, that it would appear as no time had passed yet you could
which was witnessing the experiment in 1943 was caught up in have aged several months or years because of the time you
the hole or energy vortex and also transported to the future. spent in the other time. He claimed that this happened to him
on a number of occassions. Lastly, he shared that when they
After his experience on the Ethridge, he claims that he worked were able to see the future, past 2013, it appeared as if there
with people related to the development of the nuclear bomb was no life living on the earth.
but he objected to the purpose of how the Government wanted
to use such technologies. He stated that the Government saw The part of his information which he shared about not being
him as a liability and that they would have killed him except able to enter the 3 year timeframe I found quite interesting and
that his molecular structure was connected with the two holes started to ponder about this. Then inspiration (divine) struck
in time in 1943 and 1984. Therefore, they believed if they me to explain why this might be possible. I remember reading
killed him, it could cause a ripple effect that would reopen a science fiction novel by Asimov about a group of people,
these holes and thus used the technology they had received supposedly existing in our future, who's work was to travel
from the aliens, to regress him to a baby and sent him back in backwards and forward in time, making minor alterations to
time to 1927 where he was exchanged for the son of the Bielak make the earth the best possible planet or place to live, at least
family. in their opinion. There was a group in their very far future,
who knew they were doing this and totally blocked the time
Now he states his brother, who stayed in the future, became travelers ability to enter their time period. My explanation for
quite fascinated with the time tunnel at Montauk. Somehow Mr. Bielak statement about 2011-2013 is that if we are using a
his brother got caught in the time tunnel, some experiment, physical device to travel (whether it be via traveling a distance
and again, they had the same situation where if he died, his in the current time or traveling in time) that in order to be able
death could cause the holes in time to re-open. So again, using to reach your destination, that place or time must be in a
some strange technology of the aliens, they were able to take vibrational harmony with the place you are leaving. In other
the soul of his brother and place it in the body of his father's words, the laws of physics, the vibration of matter, must be in
third son. Thus Preston again forgot who he was although he alignment. Therefore, I conclude that in 2011-2013, the earth
still had the same father. will shift its vibrational motion and move into a new
dimension which makes this time not in sync with our own.
The last piece of information I found quite fascinating in Mr. As I have been pursuing this theory, I have discovered that a
Bielak's talk was a discussion about time travel and parallel number of prophecies seem to point to something significant
universes. He stated that using the equipment they had happening in this timeframe as well. I have heard both the
developed, they were able to identify at least four other Aztec and Mayans have a prophecy about something
parallel earths (similar to the TV program on Fox called happening during these years, a transformation of sorts. Also
"Sliders") and in one of these parallel earths, Germany won the Great Pyramid, if reading the prophecy on the special wall
World War II. This was quite interesting because I had just near the King (or is it the Queen) chambers, the tunneling
read a science fiction book by James Hogan that was based on leading up to this room, also has some reference to 2011. Also,
this idea that people could travel in time and go back in time to the Mayan said their calendar ended in 1987 and 26 years later
 is 2013. Numbers which are a multiple of 13, 26 or 52 are Project.
considered sacred numbers to the Mayans.
The operation, a continuation of the Phoenix Project
(psychotronics, EM/RF mind manipulation and psychic phenomenon)
Well regardless whether the information Mr. Bielak has shared being conducted at Long Island's Brookhaven National Laboratories, got
or my own speculations of things is true, we are living in a into full swing at the just-closed Montauk Air Force Station in 1970
truly incredible time and it seems that the kinds of activities (though there are indications of earlier ties to the general lines of
related to the Philadelphia Experiment, Montauk or the UFOs, research) after the Brookhaven crew got their funding cut off. Project
will take us into a whole new level of comprehension of the operators there wouldn't take no for an answer and so went fully covert;
intrique workings of the Universe we find ourselves in. teaming up with some military higher ups using untraceable funding at
the decommisioned Montauk Air Force Station.
Peace & Light always,
I am dedicated to getting the truth about the Montauk Project as well as
similar and/or connected projects out to the people by whatever means
Joshua "Illinois" Shapiro possible, for the sake of my child, all children, and for the sake of human
freedom on this planet we call home. My strong feeling is that we are
Montauk Project Report about to enter a chapter of history in which the human race will be
subjected to nonstop, invasive, pervasive, worldwide mind, mood,
Foreword consciousness and even biological control by means of
electromagnetic/radio frequency transmissions, coupled in many cases
MONTAUK AIR FORCE STATION with physical implants.
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ACTIVE OR NOT? We are already witnessing the near-total collapse of even a
pretense of a free press and a democratic government here in the United
All material copyright (c) 1997 States. We are already witnessing massive deployment of experimental
John A. Quinn (and perfected!) biological weapons against the American people and
NewsHawk INC even more so against third world countries (such as AIDS and ebola: see
All rights reserved Dr. Leonard Horowitz's book which proves that these and other deadly
diseases were genetically engineered by secret government associates
FOREWARD mainly at Cold Spring Harbor Labs on -- you guessed it -- Long Island).
To follow is my report on the "Montauk Project"-- the covert
government's clandestine electromagnetic/ radio frequency mind control There are many more indications of the implementation of the New
project carried out in a documented subterranean facility beneath the World Order and the list grows by the hour. Of prime importance in
derelict Montauk Air Force Station. To greatest extent possible I'd like these malignant plans for our future is the literal control of or at least
potential readers to understand my intent in getting this information to substantial interference with and manipulation of our minds by
the public . Montauk-type technologies. Clandestine agencies have been covertly
researching various means of mind control for quite a long time. Based
The last section of this report has some biographical information; it upon what I have discovered, the Montauk Project represents the
covers to some extent to my personal history, and especially personal pinnacle of achievement in this entire field. The technology perfected in
experiences in researching the project in the last 2-3 years, along with the Montauk Project is, unfortunately, extremely powerful, and this
whatever I can piece together about my possible previous involvement power is at the disposal of what in actual fact are literally Nazis and their
when I resided in the area. About three years ago I came across the first cohorts/ accomplices/collaborators/proteges and descendents. My goal is
Montauk Project book by Preston Nichols, and subsequently had my to shut them down.
mind blown many times over -- not just because of the information in
the now 4 books, but because of some very strange and troubling John Quinn
inconsistencies in certain memories from childhood through early
adulthood which I have involving Montauk Air Force Station/Camp
Hero and other connected Montauk locations. It's very important to
MONTAUK PROJECT REPORT--Part 1
realize that according to Preston Nichols and other preeminent Montauk
Project investigators, tens of thousands of youngsters were "abducted"
INTRODUCTION
for use in the Montauk Project alone over the span of the Project; solid
I've conducted a two year investigation into allegations regarding ultra-
evidence proves that across this country many other mind control and
top-secret experiments carried out by clandestine units of both U.S. and
manipulation projects have been conducted
"world" government intelligence and military agencies, corporations
using untold numbers of children in these totally horrifying,
such as Airborne Instrument Laboratories, Siemens/ ITT, as well as
unimaginable abuses at the hands of clandestine government agencies.
certain divisions of Brookhaven National Laboratories and other groups
-- from the 1950s up to present times -- at a fully verified and
Montauk Air Force Station has been shuttered since 1969, according any
documented subterranean facility beneath the purportedly abandoned
and all available federal records, yet the property has still been in near-
and derelict Montauk Air Force Station. Certain of these activities are by
continuous service as a site of some truly extraordinary thoroughly
all indications currently ongoing. The radar station is at the extreme
dilapidated (with some key exceptions) structures -- was "donated" to
eastern tip of Long Island, N.Y.'s south fork. The remnants of the surface
New York State expressly for use as public park land. Needless to say,
military installation are indeed in severe disrepair, but the underground
some 14 years later, this place is NOT a park. No portions of the base
continues to be active. Ludicrously enough, the surface of the land is
proper are open to the public, because of and/or despite the fact that the
now a N.Y. State Park... on paper at least. However by terms of the deed,
surface facility is in complete and total disrepair. Of course why this
the Federal government still retains all rights to any and all property
condition persists when the surface of the property belongs to the people
beneath the surface! Investigations reveal that several new, deeper levels
of New York State under the care of the New York State Parks System is
have been added in the early 1990s. Fields of research conducted there
completely incongruous, and literally illegal according to the charter of
are said to include principally electromagnetic mind control; also
the State Parks.
psychotronics (interfacing mind & machine), particle beams technology
and interdimensional/"time travel" experiments ("black-hole simulations
And that's just a small part of the genuinely astounding and
and warping time-space). Very strong evidence indicates particle
tremendously important story relayed in my report on the Montauk
accelerators are in use there and at nearby facilities -- such as keep the base in operation as it's SAGE radar system had by then
Brookhaven Labs -- for powering the particle beam weapons, HAARP become obsolete, yet recovered Air Force documents and numerous
transmissions and exotic particle beam radar systems. The continuing witnesses verify indisputably that the Air Force Station was still active
lack of any credible explanation for what caused the crash of TWA long after then. Recently much evidence has surfaced indicating that the
Flight 800 nearly a year and a half ago offshore from Westhampton has base and the subterranean facilities were and still are used for a
focused considerable attention on eastern Long Island as a place where tremendous amount of top secret, ultra-classified research and
unusual things happen unusually often. In fact, there are substantial experimentation (much of which falls under the umbrella of the code-
indications that particle beam operations at Brookhaven Labs the night named Phoenix Project) in quantum and particle physics (black hole
of July 17 1996 were in fact (at least) partially responsible for the simulation), super-powerful electrical fields, weather control,
disaster, and this is delved into in more depth within the report. I've put psychotronics (interfacing mind and machine), genetics, particle beam
together the report based on personal interviews with project technology, and electronic and drug-based mind control. The
participants, on-site investigations at Montauk Air Force Station (Camp preponderance of this evidence strongly suggests that a great many of
Hero), and extensive historical and background research. This report these activities have been thoroughly malevolent as to both their desired
verifies without doubt current clandestine activities at the underground ends and the means used to achieve those ends, and have utilized
installation, as well as other locations mentioned; it includes unwitting and even helpless subjects -- including at times, youngsters
corroborative testimony from area residents and visitors who have very abducted from surrounding communities. Certain of these experiments
recently had frightening encounters at this location with mysterious, in controlled warping of our time-space continuum had such devastating
threatening unidentified security personnel toting automatic weapons. In results and almost inconceivably awesome potential consequences that
the past year mainstream newspapers in Montauk and East Hampton several project insiders conspired to sabotage the proceedings in August
such as the Montauk Pioneer and The East Hampton Independent have 1983, forcing the base's total, but as it turns out only temporary,
carried several articles about various aspects of the "Montauk Project". abandonment.
For many in the area it is (unfortunately) becoming an accepted part of
life there, as it has for others who have found the preponderance of solid NO PICNICS AT CAMP HERO STATE PARK
evidence supporting allegations of highly irregular, horrific activities at It is a matter of public record that the federal government turned the
Montauk Air Force Station impossible to dismiss. This is an incredible Camp Hero/Montauk A.F. Station property over to New York State for
state of affairs taking place 100 miles from N.Y.C. "underneath" eastern use as public park land in 1984, yet according to the terms of the deed on
L.I.'s sun and surf playground. record at the Suffolk County offices in Riverhead, N.Y., the federal
government retains all rights to all property beneath the surface of the
Montauk Project Report -- Part 1 land -- only the surface of this area was actually donated to N.Y. State.
The deed also holds that the federal government can reclaim the surface
To get things started on the right note (and put the reader in the proper of the land as well for reasons of national security, if necessary. Thirteen
frame of mind) this question should be answered forthwith, as simply years after this transfer, at least 2/3 of this so-called park remain
and directly as possible; the answer is no...but yes: and here is the story. completely off-limits to the public! This itself is in fact a violation of the
Within the past two years, several incidents of a deeply disturbing and N.Y. State Parks' charter, and the restriction is enforced severely by a
highly irregular nature have occurred at or near Camp Hero/Montauk Air host of various authorities -- sometimes at gunpoint. Electronics
Force Station, an ostensibly derelict facility at the extreme eastern end of technicians have monitored and recorded extremely unusual and
Long Island's south fork and adjacent to Montauk Point's historic unorthodox radio frequency and other electromagnetic transmissions
lighthouse. This area is currently administered by the New York State emanating directly from this supposedly restricted and/or derelict
Parks system and is in fact a designated state park, on paper at least. Two property at the present time, which indicate activities very much like
of these incidents involved women, one of whom was accompanied by those alleged to have occurred there, and I have personally seen and
her children, being accosted, harassed and threatened at gunpoint by heard with my own eyes and ears these bizarre and complex EM/RF
unidentified government/military personnel while in the vicinity. They signal transmissions monitored and traced by direction-finding receivers
were told that they had violated top secret and restricted areas and were and other equipment. New telephone lines and new high capacity power
subject to arrest; however no arrests were made. Another such incident lines with a gigawatt meter have been installed in this allegedly derelict
involving weapons happened within the past year when a young man and off-limits area fairly recently, and witnesses observed a highly
was walking in the so-called state park. A similar event sans automatic advanced Cardion Corp. particle beam radar unit being operated on the
weapons took place in mid-April of 1995 when a family walking there bluffs at Camp Hero for a period of at least five months in 1994.
encountered a security agent, also unidentified, who abusively harassed Investigators were given several different explanations as to the reason
the family and threatened to have them arrested for the same alleged for this from various Cardion (Siemens) officials, and one witness was
violation; again no arrests were made. In April 1996, in an effort to bring told point-blank by a security guard there that the unit had been
themselves up-to-date on the status of the area, this family again entered malfunctioning in the underground and was thus brought to the surface
the restricted portion of Camp Hero State Park, and they were once more for testing! The electrical meter with gigawatt capability is on a structure
approached by a non-uniformed guard who "advised" them that they claimed as an equipment maintenance building by State Parks officials:
were intruding into an area designated off-limits to the public, and were one the few functional buildings within the restricted area. Gigawatts of
to leave immediately. This follows upon an inexplicably large number of electrical power is a tremendous amount of power --enough to run a
similar events within recent years. There is much well-substantiated large city, but where is the city at Montauk Point? Underground,
testimony extending back at least twenty-five years of bizarre, apparently. Investigators of clandestine activities there assert that if
unconstitutional and horrific activities secretly conducted by shadowy gigawatts of electricity were discharged (utilized) within that single
government and military agencies at this location. In addition to the building it would be completely demolished by fire in record time. They
known military bases (U.S. Army) Camp Hero and Montauk Air Force point to the existence of the power line and gigawatt meter as clear
Station, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers plans and records establish evidence of secret, and by extrapolation unconstitutional, illicit
conclusive proof of the existence of at least four levels of subterranean operations at the A.F. Station. In June 1996 this assertion was confirmed
facilities beneath Camp Hero, and according to informed sources up to as fact by a serviceman (who wishes to retain confidentiality) for
three additional levels have been added as recently as the early 1990s. LILCO, the electric utility company for the Montauk area (and virtually
Montauk is actually geologically distinct from the rest of Long Island all Long Island). A linesman and meter reader for the Camp Hero
and is the top of an undersea mountain, so there is plenty of bedrock to vicinity, he has stated for the record that he and his supervisors are
go down into. Camp Hero was a U.S. Army installation established prior indeed aware that a tremendous amount of electricity is utilized by this
to WW2, and Montauk Air Force Station was established within its power line and recorded by the meter. He also noted that it is absolutely
perimeter as the Army phased out of the location in the 1950s. The Air not possible for the one maintenance building to use that much power for
Force Station was officially active only until 1969, and federal records equipment maintenance operations or any other conceivable and
do show that no legitimate source of funding existed past that time to legitimate State Parks activities.
 1930s and early 1940s Naval Intelligence and other agencies were
STRANGE SCIENCE FACT indeed wholeheartedly researching radar cloaking technology with the
There are a number of claims being made about this location by people top minds in physics, including John Hutchinson, Emil Kurtenhour,
like Preston Nichols, a radio-electronics engineer and technician who's Albert Einstein, Von Neumann and Tesla. Although not often discussed
worked for Bookhaven National Laboratories and top-secret defense then or now, literal sight invisibility was also a subject of considerable
contractor A.I.L. on Long Island. Nichols has co-authored three books interest in this work. Sites for this research were first the University of
on the subject of the activities at Montauk Air Force Station popularly Chicago and then later The Institute for Advanced Studies, a front
known as the Montauk Project. The research and experimentation organization for groups connected to the one-world government
alleged to have occurred in the subterranean facility beneath Camp Hero, conclave -- the Council of Rhodes. It's perhaps noteworthy that Tesla
which include psychotronic and electromagnetic mind control operations maintained research facilities at Shoreham, Long Island, not far from
of a very extreme nature, and also interdimensional and time Montauk. Shoreham is reputed to be a geomagnetic "hot spot" or power
manipulations and travel, may no doubt strike some readers as bordering point, although not of the same magnitude as Montauk is. This subject
on science fiction. However, a careful perusal of numerous investigative will be explored more later in this report.
reports and news stories, Congressional hearings, scientific papers, and
relevant federal documents will show that in fact many different types of PANDORA'S BOX
electromagnetic mind manipulation technologies have been thoroughly Some of the most startling information now available regarding such
tested and developed by intelligence agencies and other groups; the trail highly classified research and experimentation in ultra-advanced
goes back a good fifty years or more and these technologies are well physics, the resultant technologies, and the uses to which such were put
understood, quite effective, and in widespread use. As well, a complete can be found in the Montauk Project book series by Preston Nichols and
study of the more recent concepts and developments in quantum physics Peter Moon, which provide extensive details on recent activities of the
shows very widespread support for theories which provide for the Phoenix Project. Following the Philadelphia Experiment in 1943, an
possibility, even likelihood, of the development of methods to early attempt at "Stealth" (radar invisibility) and according to some
accomplish "travel" both in time and in other dimensions. For example, sources literal invisibility as well, which by most accounts ended in
in March 1994 Scientific American published a paper by David Deutsch uncontrollable and nightmarish failure, such interdimensional research
and Michael Lockwood which concluded flatly that nothing in the was put on hold while the A-bomb was developed and WW2 was fought
currently known laws of physics prohibits such excursions. In fact, the and won, certainly against Japan. (In regard to the war against Nazi
burden of proof is now far and away upon the doubters of time and Germany, however, the outcome was not as clear-cut and decisive as the
dimensional travel to make their case that such are impossible. A number history books might have one believe -- certainly no atomic bombs were
of the great minds in contemporary physics -- including but not limited dropped -- and we shall find out more about this further on.) In the late
to Nick Herbert, Kip Thorne, Frank Tipler, Fred Allen Wolf, Michio 1940s, realizing that the Phoenix Project lines of research, if properly
Kaku, Steven Hawking (a recent and enthusiastic convert) and Paul harnessed, controlled and developed, had astonishing and un-dreamed-of
Halpern -- postulate that time travel can in fact be achieved. It can be possibilities, clandestine government agencies reopened Pandora's Box.
said conclusively, proven beyond any doubt within the framework of The worst problems encountered during the Philadelphia Experiment
contemporary science, that parallel dimensions exist -- "probable" were the extraordinarily destructive and bizarre effects on the human
realities to us, apparently infinite in number; our familiar 3D time/space beings who were aboard the battleship used in the experiment. The ship
continuum is but one manifestation. Fundamentally, it is our and crew allegedly disappeared from sight for some time: devastating
consciousness which in some way literally brings into being the psychological damage as well as horrifying physical results such as
dimension or reality we experience, manifesting it from what are to us sailors being embedded in the metal of the ship when it did reappear
realms of infinite potentials. This was demonstrated in a mathematical (rematerialize) were reportedly some of these effects. Janus Von
form known as Von Neumann's Proof, developed by Hungarian-born Neumann, who was the director of the Philadelphia Experiment, (staying
physicist Janus Eric Von Neumann and published in the 1930's in his on after Tesla had quit in disgust over his concern about just such effects
book The Mathematical Foundations of Quantum Physics, known even upon people) was called upon to find out more regarding how human
today as "the bible" among quantum physicists. (More about Von beings were impacted by entering other time-space dimensions and to
Neumann later.) Other developments have demonstrated that time as it is develop technology which could allow people to do so without severe
commonly conceived of, a linear progression from past to present to damage. Von Neumann, who unlike Tesla had little use for metaphysics
future, does not ultimately exist. Experiments conducted at Columbia or parapsychology, soon found himself unable to avoid coming to terms
University in the early 1970s proved that a decision made by an with both the psychic and spiritual aspects of human beings in addition
observer/researcher which determines whether or not a photon has to the material or physical level. Suffice it to say that some element of a
traveled as a wave or a particle (by either causing or not causing wave person, often called a spirit or soul, must remain in sync with his/her
interference), and which is made after the photon is emitted into a multi- original time-space lock which begins at the time of physical conception
mirrored device (which considerably delays its journey), will also (incarnation) while transferring to or returning from other dimensions, if
determine the state of that photon at the time it is emitted -- showing that such wide scale destructive results are to be avoided. Von Neumann,
the present does affect the past and thus the future can affect the present. exercising once again his prodigious mental abilities, came up with the
Therefore all time is in actuality simultaneous; what we call past and world's first electronic computer, which had the capability to calculate
future exist "now". The past isn't gone and the future isn't yet to come. certain time-space referencing factors with absolute precision -- a
Then where are they? In another dimension. Similar alterations to necessity for what was to be accomplished; in addition, psychotronic
traditional concepts about space, in particular vast distances, must ensue equipment was created which could receive, reconfigure and transmit
from such scientifically accepted facts. Another body of research used radio-type frequencies generated by thoughts from the human mind
extensively in top secret projects involving ultra-advanced technologies (frequencies which do exist and can be picked up by what are commonly
is that of Nikola Tesla, a towering scientific genius and the true father of called "psychics" (no, they're not all phony); and by extension, devices
our present-day AC electrical system, who as far back as the turn of the which could externally and artificially alter or "control" people's minds.
century had reportedly developed such technologies as particle beam and Among the early objectives of the Phoenix Project have been (and are
antigravity devices, wireless power transmission, psychotronics, and still! [see info on Project HAARP further on]) achieving weather control
"free" energy, to name a few. Much of his work remains only dimly capabilities. Secret agencies of the U.S. government and groups
comprehended by many scientists even today. Tesla and his inventions associated with such received a big boost in this area, and in
figured prominently in the legendary "Philadelphia Experiment" which development of psycho-tronic technologies in general, from the research
was in fact part of the Phoenix Project research. It must be pointed out to and work of Wilhelm Reich, a veritable genius in a variety of fields;
those revisionists who discount the reality of the Philadelphia scientific, medical, psychological and metaphysical. Reich demonstrated
Experiment and also to those whose minds boggle at the contemplation by extensive experimentation that a form of electromagnetic energy he
of such subjects, that there is ample evidence in the public record alone, termed "orgone" energy had a significant impact on psychological states
(newspapers, magazines, periodicals, etc.), showing that in the later of mind as well as upon such phenomenon as weather conditions.
Regarding the latter, Reich donated his weather-related discoveries and of Tesla's (long since dead), Von Neumann's and others' ideas and
technology to the U.S. government for no financial compensation, as he inventions. Tremendously powerful electrical currents flowing in
himself was pursuing other implications of his discoveries. Reich's specific configurations generated electromagnetic fields which created in
weather control technology was utilized and further developed by the effect a working "Tipler cylinder". To simplify once more, psychics were
government, and integrated with other aspects of the Phoenix Project. again utilized to visualize and stabilize a target "destination" in a
Partly due to pressure from the A.M.A., Reich was mercilessly hounded different time/space dimension which the "vortex" would then be
and harassed by federal agents and his Long Island laboratory and focused upon. The Tipler cylinder, a concept formulated by the
research destroyed; he was in fact imprisoned for, among other charges, aforementioned physicist Frank Tipler, is presently one of the most
practicing medicine without a license. A number of researchers including widely accepted theoretical models in quantum physics of how to create
Preston Nichols assert that the Phoenix Project technologies were an artificial, controllable "black hole", thereby achieving time-space and
developed and perfected to a high degree, to a large extent at facilities on dimensional shifting and even the ability to effect alterations and
Long Island such as Brookhaven National Labs. Much of this was manipulations of our time-space continuum.
legitimately funded until the late 1960s when Congress, upon being
informed by Brookhaven Labs, Siemens/ITT, A.I.L. and other Some of this sounds quite exciting, amazing, even wonderful, and
contractors of the advanced developmental state of, and great certainly in some ways it probably is. However, to a great extent such
effectiveness of, the psychotronic and mind control aspects of the activities were and are done with absolutely no regard for the effects on
project, prudently decided to end such research at once and for good lest the people experimented upon; furthermore, this work is done with the
such technology fall into the wrong hands and be used in unacceptable full intention of using the knowledge and capabilities gained to more
ways. This may have been one of the few recent Congressional actions thoroughly and completely subjugate humanity with ever-more-powerful
displaying any real backbone, but unfortunately, the technology was and pervasive control of our consciousness: in fact, and literally if we
already in the "wrong" hands. Dismayed by the action of Congress, remember Von Neumann's Proof, "reality engineering". According to
project directors approached certain members of the intelligence and Preston Nichols, an unquestionably brilliant altered state of mind while
military hierarchies in secret and unconstitutionally conspired to simultaneously employed by Brookhaven National Labs (such alternate
continue this experimentation, again in secret, at the recently closed awareness can be achieved with variations of psychotronic technologies)
down Montauk Air Force Station. Janus Von Neumann was once more -- and also according to other first-hand participants in certain of these
made senior scientific director as the Phoenix Project avenues of experiments -- some of the youngsters abducted and so viciously abused
research were taken to extraordinary new heights. This, the so-called in these activities died as a result and were buried en masse on site! The
"Montauk Project" specifically, dealt for the most part with psychotronic human tragedy attested to here begins to rival such indelible atrocities as
and interdimensional areas of experimentation. Electromagnetic mind the Pol-Pot massacres or Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen in its horror and
control experiments using high-powered radio frequency transmissions brutality. The fact that this was done to American children on American
were conducted continually upon visiting servicemen and women soil by agencies connected, however tenuously, to our government is
"invited" to the base for R&R; upon the population at large in virtually unimaginable; yet as we have discovered, many of the
surrounding communities; and most incredibly, upon numerous abducted assertions made by Phoenix/Montauk investigators have been checked
children. There are definite indications and testimony that the Montauk out and verified. As mentioned, the Montauk Project crashed and burned
Point military facilities were the site of psychological and mind (control) in August 1983, sabotaged from within by certain key participants who
research even before 1969; according to researchers Camp Hero had could no longer tolerate what was going on. A time tunnel type linkup
been known as a "psych" base ever since its inception not long after the with the Philadelphia Experiment exactly forty years previously (August
federal government acquired the land in 1910 through outright trickery, 12, 1943) was allegedly achieved then -- apparently an attempt by
fraud and deception practiced against its rightful owners -- the Montauk project operators to repair or undo damage they felt had been done to the
Indian tribe. Substantial evidence from numerous sources shows that our time-space continuum during the 1943 experiment; thereafter, the project
federal government's intelligence agencies are responsible for an ended temporarily, as described, with the surface of the property being
astonishing assortment of mind control experiments and projects, dating then donated to N.Y. State.
back at least 50 years. The Napa (CA) Sentinel ran a lengthy series in
1991 which provided a fairly comprehensive overview of the general All text within this document
"state-of-the-art" in mind control activities in the U.S.; the Washington is the sole property of the owner
Post has run some good coverage on the CIA's and NSA's hellacious and copyright holder -- John A. Quinn.
abuses in this field. The Church (Senate) Committee hearings during the Reproduction by Permission only.
1970s into the practices of the CIA, NSA and the like in such matters (c) 1997
really only scratched the surface of a sordid , brutal and little-known John A. Quinn
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experimentation -- almost always involving complete abject abuse of END PT. 1
and disregard for constitutional, civil and human rights. In 1994 the
Senate Committee on Veteran's Affairs (chaired by John D. Rockefeller) Montauk Project Report -- Part 2
held hearings into the practices of military and intelligence groups
regarding their use of unwitting, unsuspecting "subjects" in a substantial PARADOXES ABOUND
portion of the so-called research done into fields such as testing the Even a brief inspection of this location will reveal massive
effects of chemical/biological weapons and the uses of drugs and inconsistencies and glaring anomalies in the current administration of
configured EM/RF transmissions in mind (and body) control. At the area by N.Y. State Parks: a series of investigations of the nearly
Montauk, to simplify considerably, the basic "research" agenda was as 400 acre facility show that its designation and administration is very
follows. Extremely gifted and rigorously trained psychics were hooked irregular and quite suspicious. Although it's a supposedly hazardous,
up via psychotronic equipment to computers which converted the toxic, derelict installation, off-limits to the public until cleaned up,
waveforms of their thoughts to (digital) computer code, and also relayed virtually no "clean-up" has been done after thirteen years. The vehicle
the waveforms to exceptionally high-powered EM/RF transmitters entrance has a new high security gate and fencing with key and
which broadcast thought, mind and consciousness-altering signals. combination lock, and is heavily posted with restricted entry and no
According to accounts, certain experiments achieved materialization, at trespassing signs, yet the signs and fencing which identify and delineate
varying levels of stability and solidity, of objects visualized by the the restricted area are spotty or nonexistent along thousands of feet of
psychics whose thoughts were then broadcast, as well as teleportation the boundary (ironically, especially in residential areas). At the same
effects. (IBM's Web site is currently [5/97] displaying a blurb about their time, numerous authorities patrol the base continuously, but in a peculiar
research and intended development of teleportation technology.) By the "off duty" sort of mode. They usually wear no identifying badges or
late 1970s at Montauk, furthermore, very advanced experimentation was uniforms and are thus in an unofficial capacity -- not required to identify
undertaken in the controlled "warping" of space and time, utilizing some themselves or the source of their authority: warnings to keep out of the
area and threats of arrest (and more) are delivered "unofficially" but very and by monitoring mental, physical and emotional states through subtle
forcefully. New York State Police, State Park Police, and East Hampton "evoked" EEG readings picked up by extremely sensitive scanning.
Town Police also patrol the area and enforce the off-limits restriction as Targeted individuals can then be "interfaced" with by means of the
well. It seems obvious that the perimeter of this restricted area is so electromagnetic/radio frequency technologies noted. Although this
unevenly and irregularly identified and patrolled in order to avoid calling particular technology is reportedly effective upon just about anyone,
any undue attention to the location. N.Y. State Parks officials, including implantation of biologically-based transceiver chips into subjects make
Park Supervisor George Larsen, are extremely evasive and deceptive it much more reliable and powerful -- hence the reported plan to have
when questioned about these points and about the actual status of the the entire population so implanted at some time. The list just does not
area, as well as their administration of it. Certain backyards in the end, and as this report is not solely concerned with the mind control
neighborhoods directly adjacent to Montauk A.F. Station, which in some aspects of Montauk, we must move on. I refer the reader to the public
cases definitely house base employees and security personnel, have libraries and especially the Internet and World Wide Web for some
paths that lead right into the supposedly restricted, or hazardous further information on government mind control projects.
property, of which videotaped evidence exists. Also, there is a major Montauk Project researchers assert that the youngsters
exception to the enforcement of the off-limits restriction, and abducted for use in the experiments first had their spirits, psyches,
considering the charges made concerning some of the activities here, it's personalities, sense of self and mental integrity completely demolished
a rather sinister exception. Children and teenagers have been spotted by severe, intensive carefully orchestrated psychosexual abuse until
quite frequently inside the perimeter and are not thrown out or even they were suitable to be "reassembled" and reprogrammed via
approached when observed by security personnel. Videotaped evidence supercomputers using psychotronic, EM/RF, virtual reality and
exists of this, and also of children riding bikes and climbing structures in "techno-psychic" technologies into the desired psychological profile, to
this so-called hazardous, toxic, restricted area, which is apparently not perform as needed; for use in interdimensional experimentation, as
off-limits to them. National Guard and other military units do conduct ginuea pigs in the unending mind control and psycho-tronics work, as
what seem to be legitimate training exercises on the property. Are these sleeper agents who could be activated by a variety of means -- including
service people being deliberately put in an unsafe, unhealthy and through use of implanted transceivers, and as a "secret army" which can
dangerous environment? It wouldn't seem likely, but if so, would be yet be called upon by the secret government in times of unusual or severe
another bizarre, scandalous and distressing abuse to add to the long list crises; if they in fact survived the ordeal. There is major confirmation
of such reported to occur so regularly at this location. There is as well a that this is actually an established and often used method (in other
substantial amount of testimony from nearby residents and others documented mind control projects) of the intelligence services to create
describing what appears to be ongoing, often nocturnal, non-legitimate mind controlled, often totally unwitting agents to be used in espionage,
activity involving unidentified government/ military personnel at the assassinations and the like. Bogus child care facilities and phony, cult-
base. like quasi-"religious"
groups are some of the means used by intelligence agencies like the CIA
SUPPORTING INFORMATION to get access to suitable youngsters in situations with the required
Certain incidents have come to light over the past few years parameters of control.
which lend further support to some of the allegations about Montauk
Project activities. Branches of the CIA, NSA and other agencies have In 1978 (and other years from the mid-70s to the early 80s),
acknowledged conducting numerous and extensive mind control virtually the entire state of Oregon was subjected to very unusual
experiments electromagnetic transmissions which had unsettling and negative effects
at quite a few locations throughout the 1960s and into the 1970s and on the mood and state of mind of a large percentage of the population.
1980s, including the infamous research done at Allen Memorial Institute These were monitored and duly reported by a number of groups such as
and McGill University in Montreal, Canada. Dr. Ewen Cameron was police, fire and emergency services, radio and TV stations, et cetera.
head The situation received widespread coverage in the press at the time and
honcho and master of ceremonies there, in another scenario eerily there were indications of Soviet involvement; however at least some
reminiscent of Nazi Germany at its worst -- and not without reason, as components of the signals were eventually traced to a U.S. Navy
we will discover. For the unenlightened, there is a substantial amount of transmitter in California! Regarding the use of "psychic" abilities by
information and evidence on the literally countless projects and government agencies, The San Francisco Examiner on Sunday,
sub-projects conducted by federal intelligence agencies researching and December 24, 1995 ran a first section article on a CIA-run program at
experimenting with all conceivable forms of mind control -- using the Stanford Research Institute and other facilities which trained and
everything from overt control of basic information available to society developed the psychic abilities of persons in the program so that they
at large from fundamental sources such as books, magazines, TV, radio, could be used as psychic "spies". Called Stargate, the program was only
newspapers, etc., to drugs and electromagnetics, and on to highly one of many such projects; it flourished in the 1980s, and it was
structured cult-like "belief system" control groups.. (The Jonestown, especially successful in such activities as remote viewing and other ESP-
Guyana massacre [approximately 700 of the 900+ victims were related phenomenon. Other experiments included psychokinesis, where
homicides, random processes were influenced by the mind, and also mind control by
not suicides] in 1979 was a prime example of a CIA drug/cult mind psychic interference. Sensing where a target subject was and what they
control project run amok -- [which perhaps was the idea!] -- a fact were doing were some more of the abilities researched in this program.
studiously avoided in most mainstream media coverage of the tragedy.) A great amount of information on remote viewing and other controlled ,
Using EM/RF signals (and drugs), workable technologies have directed psychic operations, often conducted by intelligence and military
been developed which can: manipulate basic psychological states; agencies, has been made public in the past year or so.
interfere with coherent mental functioning and motor reflexes; control
the autonomic nervous system; transmit "audible" words directly to the The August 1995 issue of Popular Science carried a piece which
brain via pulsed microwaves; create (psychotronic) mind to computer provided much information about a recent government project called
links (utilized by the Air Force with fighter pilots and flight HAARP (High-frequency Active Aural Research Program); information
computers and demonstrated on TV); directly interface with both which again
conscious and subconscious thought processes; plant subliminal bolsters certain assertions made by Montauk/ Phoenix investigators. In
messages -- especially while targets are in REM sleep ... all this in addition to the esoteric but somewhat more mundane capabilities and
addition to other capabilities previously noted. Of particular interest are functions made public regarding this technology, the entire ionosphere
the NSA's massive and extremely of Earth can be configured to perform as an incredibly powerful, global,
advanced nanotech computer arrays which, using satellite links, can ultra-wide-spectrum frequency transceiver by beaming high-frequency
locate, catalog, track and scan literally anyone in the United States, radio energy into it. Project HAARP is being operated by the Navy and
by reading (and recording or correlating/matching) the unique Air Force, along with Phillips Labs and additional parties. HAARP
bio-electromagnetic "signature" possessed by any and all living beings, technology causes tremendous energy changes in specified ionospheric
regions, allowing it to be configured as a virtual lens and virtual mirror appear to be a
(for the enhancement of or interference with certain RF transmissions), Sphinx-like "face", pyramids and other structures on the Martian
as a transmitter, as a method for wireless power transmission (exactly surface, has deciphered a mathematical formula encoded in the angles
what Nikola Tesla had been working on for the government at the and
beginning of relationships of the structures making up the Martian complex (known as
the 20th century) and numerous other ways. The innocuous-sounding Cydonia) which he calls tetrahedral geometry or tetrahedral physics. The
publicized goals for HAARP activities are belied by evidence produced basic elements of the formula are, (and I simplify considerably), as a
by sphere such as a planet is rotated on an axis, specific points on the
authors of the recent book Angels Don't Play This HAARP. According to surface of the sphere become the focus or portal for upwellings of
documents uncovered by Dr. Nick Begich and Jeane Manning in the energy originating in other dimensions. The most notable of these
course coincide with where the points of a tetrahedron inscribed within the
of their research, some of the objectives of this project detailed in sphere would intersect the surface of the sphere. Other than at the
official (internal) Air Force documents include, among other horrors, poles, these points would be at 19.5 degrees north and south latitude.
utilizing various electromagnetic (RF) signals to cause deleterious, On Earth it's the Hawaiian Islands, on Jupiter it's the Great Red Spot,
injurious, even lethal physical and mental effects upon targeted and so on. According to the tetrahedral formula other locations are also
population groups, not excluding -- in blatant violation of the U.S. "power" spots, including that of Cydonia itself. On Earth some
Constitution -- so-called domestic enemies (the latter defined plainly additional points are said to include Giza (and the famous pyramids) in
therein as "people who don't agree with us"). Also directly indicated in Egypt, Machu Piccu (on the same longitude as Montauk), and
certain documents is the use of transmissions to interact with, Stonehenge.
interface and "interrogate" the MINDS of targeted groups. This means When English and other European settlers reached eastern Long
electromagnetic mind control. Such activities can be implemented Island's shores in the early 1600s, the Montauk Indians and other
anywhere on the face of the Earth. Other potential applications for closely connected tribes lived in the region. The Montauks are an
HAARP technology include: Algonquin tribe, recognized in fact by many Algonquins to be the
1. enhancement of or interference with communications, as primary
well as development of new types of radio transmissions; or leading tribe. A great many Native American Indians, including
2. manipulation of weather patterns; Montauks and most Algonquins, believe that Turtle Cove, immediately
3. weapons-related and mind control uses, as indicated adjacent to and between both Montauk Point and Camp Hero, is indeed a
above; 4. earth-penetrating tomography -- an X-ray like major power point -- a "stargate" or interdimensional vortex and the
function which can reveal, for example, the existence of underground source of our reality or creation. The Montauk Indians are considered
installations (like Montauk!), as well as oil or mineral deposits; the guardians of this spot. (The created world, which as far as many
5. detection of electromagnetic seismic activity which tribes knew was just North America, was called Turtle Island.)
may precede earthquakes -- and triggering of such activity;
6. Generation of gravitic waves, interdimension/time THE PHAROAHS OF MONTAUK
"portals" and other highly esoteric, relativistic phenomena. A noteworthy point is that the chiefs or sachems of the
7. Drawing energy from the ionosphere 8. "pushing the envelope" in Montauks have held the name of Pharaoh throughout their history, long
terms of pumping electromagnetic energy into the ionosphere, just to see before any white people had arrived to impart such a name to them, and
what happens. the name Pharaoh appears nowhere else on Earth except for Egypt.
According to the vast majority of scientists (independent of Archaeological evidence indicates that the Montauk Indians inhabited
any governmental affiliation) interviewed by the authors, the potential this region continuously for at least 8,000 years. As Montauk is
for catastrophic, snowballing damage to our ionosphere and indeed the geologically distinct from Long Island and North America, it could
entire electromagnetically interrelated web of life on this planet as a theoretically be a remnant of the Atlantean continent, and the name
result of this particular project is extreme. This is a horrifying Pharaoh could have been derived from Atlantis both in Egypt and
activity which has unimaginable global environmental risks, as well as Montauk.
certain completely unconstitutional objectives. Read Angels Don't Play Historical accounts from previous centuries attest that
This HAARP by Dr. Nicholas Begich and Jeane Manning to get the pyramidal structures did exist at one time at or near Turtle Cove, and
whole various elders of the tribe recall hearing about them. Preston Nichols
story. HAARP technology could be capable of many or all of the and Peter Moon theorize in their Montauk Project book series that the
effects and processes of the Phoenix/Montauk Projects and the other Montauk Indians are a remnant of a very ancient Atlantean civilization,
EM/RF mind control projects noted, as well as genetic modification, as was Ancient Egypt. This location, both in ancient times and currently,
"brain police", and other similar frightening functions. Nick Begich and and the activities that secret government agencies (with their extensive
Jeane Manning have reported on 435 megahertz transmissions which ties to
have Masonic type "brotherhoods") are allegedly conducting there are vitally
been monitored in association with HAARP activity; signals which Mr. important to the human race and its future on earth.
Nichols has determined are directly in the mind-interface range and have Another curiosity is the name "Camp Hero". The word hero is
been used extensively in the mind control and psychotronic derived from the Greek word for the Egyptian god Horus, among whose
experimentation I've reported herein. The implications of this are attributes are the ability to see into other realities as well as
staggering and horrifying, as the potential now obviously exists to backwards and forwards in time. Although this name was given to the
implement such functions on a worldwide basis. region relatively recently by the federal government (read: Theodore
Roosevelt -- a Master Mason who owned a large tract of tribal land very
TURTLE COVE close to Turtle Cove) it certainly correlates perfectly with what the
Investigators of the Montauk Project state that the Montauk Montauk Indians and other tribes believed about this location. As noted,
Point location was chosen not by chance, but because it is a very Camp Hero was known for being a "psych base" since its inception as a
important "power spot" on the Earth, due to geomagnetic factors of great government military facility. (George Washington, another Master
scientific significance. It is common knowledge and accepted fact in Freemason with many compadres in the Montauk area, commissioned
geophysics and related sciences that certain areas of the Earth's surface the
are geomagnetic "hot spots" where gravitational, magnetic and Montauk lighthouse and oversaw it's construction.)
electromagnetic anomalies occur, including effects on certain EM/RF It seems that members of certain organizations or agencies
activities, and this is in fact one of the primary reasons cited by HAARP either already knew that this was a very significant spot on Earth or
proponents for situating the main (as far as we know!) HAARP facility else soon found it out, and over several hundred years systematically
in Gakona, Alaska. Richard Hoagland, an ex-NASA scientist who and deliberately manipulated the Montauk Indians into leaving their
assembled a team which a great deal of intensive research into what tribal lands and burial grounds east of what is now the hamlet of
Montauk. Thomas Jefferson made a substantial effort in the early 1800s services received the biggest infusion of all; the newly-formed CIA and
to personally go to Montauk and record as much of the Montauk's even more secretive NSA and other agencies like the DIA employed
history, numerous ex-Nazis and incorporated a great many of the Nazis'
language and culture as he possibly could. (Although the language of the intelligence methods and techniques as well as a vast amount of
Montauk Indians has now almost completely vanished, there are "research" and data resulting from one of the most hideous "projects" of
substantial indications that it was in fact closely related to Vril, a all time -- the Nazi death camps. Many allegations and rumors continue
so-called Enochian language of extreme antiquity.) Obviously Jefferson, to persist that large numbers of other high-ranking Nazis escaped to
another Master Mason, considered the material to be rather important. various South American countries assisted again by American
Jefferson later claimed to have lost much of the material in a boating intelligence and military agencies, where they continue to foment events
mishap, but it seems odd that he wouldn't have returned to Montauk to conducive to their unwavering political and philosophical intentions.
redo the missing work if it was so important in the first place, and Coupled with the fact that there was no full and unconditional surrender
could indicate that his story was untrue and that instead the on the part of the Third Reich, only a cease-fire agreement, one must
information was hidden away. allow for the possibility that there is more to the story than was publicly
disclosed -- that perhaps the Nazis were not really defeated but were to
SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF A TRIBE some extent incorporated into our government. There are undeniably
The machinations against the tribe and the unceasing attempts strong indications of a substantial Nazi/Aryan involvement in the
to get the Montauk Indians away from the land at Montauk Point and Montauk Project and many other similar endeavors.
vice
versa culminated in an outrageous, vicious and indefensible 1910 N.Y. OBVIOUSLY "TOP-SECRET"
court decision which declared the Montauk Indians to be "extinct" even A conclusion can reasonably be drawn at this point from this wealth of
as some sat there in the courtroom; a particular tactic used against no evidence which is really blazingly obvious: certain clandestine groups or
other tribe in North America. Significantly, construction of military agencies have conducted and continue to conduct extremely sensitive,
facilities at Turtle Cove began almost immediately after this court classified top-secret activities in subterranean facilities beneath Camp
decision. In fact, hundreds of Montauks are still alive today, and this Hero/Montauk A.F. Station with the tacit cooperation and at times,
is a definite factor in the federal government's decision to turn Camp assistance of the N.Y. State Parks system as well as various other
Hero/Montauk A.F. Station over to N.Y. State after their purported governmental bodies. Hard evidence as to exactly what activities have
abandonment of the surface facilities. There is an existing federal law been and are being conducted in the Phoenix/Montauk Project, (and
called the Non-Intercourse Act which says that the ownership of any other such), which agencies are responsible, and who the victims of this
land once inhabited by American Indians which is occupied and then research are will likely be difficult to come by and will take a sustained
relinquished by the U.S. government, must revert to those original and intensive investigation by dedicated people; certainly one must
inhabitants; in this case that would be expect the agencies and groups involved to be less than forthcoming and
the Montauk Indians, except that they are conveniently "extinct" by honest regarding any of this. However, incidents of threats, intimidation,
court order. However that was a N.Y. State court decision not abuse and gun-pointing directed against our citizens such as those
necessarily binding upon the federal government. Obviously the federal described at the beginning of this report are quite verifiable: they are an
government did not want the Indians to have the property as that would absolute and unacceptable outrage and strongly indicate that something
seriously interfere with clandestine operations there. If the Montauks very nasty and extremely underhanded and secretive is still going on
can, as they are attempting to do, achieve full legal recognition as an certainly at Montauk A.F. Station's subterranean laboratories, and
existing tribe, the federal government would be forced to abide by the undoubtedly at other locations worldwide. Such incidents represent an
terms of the Non-Intercourse Act and return the Camp Hero property to obvious violation of every implicit and explicit contract between any
them, whom it obviously belongs to -- with no funny business about legitimate government and its people; the time is long overdue for the
retaining rights to subterranean facilities. local and national citizenry to take a deep and serious look into the real
situation at such locations and the major ramifications thereof, assisted,
All text within this document one hopes, by a concerned and unfettered free press and legitimate,
is the sole property of the owner responsive governmental organizations. We must demand a full public
and copyright holder -- John A. Quinn. accounting for these atrocious activities from those found responsible, in
Reproduction by Permission only. addition to restitution to those injured parties in whatever way possible.
(c) 1997
John A. Quinn If secret agencies of government operating without the knowledge or
All rights reserved consent of any duly-elected constitutional authority are intent on
END PT. 2 continuing their clandestine, illegal, unconstitutional and malevolent
endeavors at this location, at the very least the areas must be clearly and
unequivocally designated, fenced, posted and patrolled as such. This is
SECRET) (WORLD) GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT what is being done outside the perimeter of the Area 51 section of Nellis
According to many of those who have investigated the numerous Air Force Base in Nevada, where in May of 1995 the Air Force seized
projects, programs and such which have been discussed in this article, over 4,000 acres from the federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM)
there does exist some sort of international worldwide super-government adjacent to Area 51 and top-secret S4 at Nellis. This action was taken to
hidden behind the scenes of the great world stage, so to speak; pulling prevent the public from getting too close to the very highly classified
the strings which have a substantial impact on the outcome of many research being conducted there involving either terrestrial or non-
world events -- events often instigated and manipulated by these very terrestrial aerospace craft displaying antigravity characteristics,
same groups. Very little, if anything which might have any significant witnessed by many thousands of people previously. Of course,
effect on the human race socially, politically, economically or even experiments conducted upon unknowing and helpless subjects and most
spiritually just happens unless this hidden control group intends it to definitely the use of kidnapped children in any such experiments must
happen, or at least allows it to. Such a phenomenon as the Third Reich cease immediately and those responsible brought to justice. The totally
would most definitely fall within this category. Not only did many sneaky and underhanded way that Camp Hero/Montauk A.F. Station is
prominent persons openly support Hitler and some of the stated being administered currently is enough to indicate that very unpleasant
objectives of the Nazi movement before the onset of WW2 in Europe, and malicious things are still occurring: unlike the situation at Nellis, at
but before, during and mostly after the war untold thousands of high- Montauk they don't even want you to know that there is something you
level Nazi Party members, top scientists and intelligence officers came are not supposed to know! The family mentioned at the beginning of this
to the U.S. and worked for the U.S. government, and not just in the report which was subjected to hostile, threatening, abusive, inappropriate
aerospace fields as is commonly thought. Indeed, our intelligence and completely unprofessional behavior by a purported N.Y. State Parks
employee in April 1995 is pursuing legal action as a result of the
incident. Preliminary investigations have so far failed to turn up any intelligence agent with ties to the Montauk project indicates that it is
valid N.Y. State Parks employment records for this individual. certain that particle beam operations at Brookhaven Labs triggered the
Furthermore, he identified himself three separate times in subsequent catastrophe. According to an item in The Montauk Pulse explaining the
phone conversations with this investigator as at present an employee of events and described as a rumor; "On the date of the crash, military
the Montauk A.F. Station -- a federal designation for a supposedly long maneuvers were being conducted in the vicinity of Center Moriches. A
derelict facility! These conversations were recorded. An interesting low flying (tactical) nuclear missile, which was deactivated, was
followup on this point -- when Parks Supervisor George Larsen was discharged in simulated battle from a low flying plane. It was aimed at a
asked why one of his employees would state that their employer was heat-generating target which was trailing behind a C-130. A malfunction
"Montauk Air Force Station", he became extremely agitated and upset, caused the heat generator to cease whereupon the missile locked in on
stammering "I have no idea", and refused to talk about these matters any Flight 800. The missile was designed to circle above its target. It was
further, referring me to the N.Y. State Parks legal department in Babylon never meant to hit anything. In the midst of these errant maneuvers, the
(L.I.), N.Y. In the same vein, on a recent sortie to the vicinity of the main particle beam at Brookhaven Labs activated the nuclear mass in the
entrance of the base to do some further "snooping", I was momentarily warhead by supplying neutrons to make the fissionable material go to
surprised when a N.Y. State Parks maintenance vehicle exited through critical mass. Quite simply, it was the particle beam which set off the
the gate and the driver stopped to ask me what I was doing there. (The nuclear device. Of course, when a nuclear blast occurs, it leaves a
new (state park) restricted area signs marking the "old" (US Air Force) residue of radiation. This explains why debris retrievers were seen
inner perimeter of base property are about 300 yards back up the wearing radiation suits. "...Additionally, green streaks have been
entrance road, right past a turnoff into the small nearby neighborhood.) I reported over Long island by many different pilots. It is becoming old
made up an excuse that I was looking for Washington Avenue, one of the hat. These green streaks are caused by atmospheric reaction with the
streets in the adjacent housing area, and he replied, "I think that's back particle beam." Some investigators aren't so sure the crash was
up the road to the right. This here is the Air Force Base!" Okay... indeed, accidental, as certain French intelligence agents were apparently on
so it is! board. The area of Long Island where the jet went down, Westhampton,
has been identified by Nichols and others as having particle accelerator
ILLEGAL FUNDING and particle beam technology operating in underground facilities, and is
A number of other serious side issues have been raised by investigators in close proximity to Brookhaven National Labs, cited as a major player
of the Montauk Project. One of the most notable is that funding for these in clandestine operations in this region beyond any doubt. The severe
secret, unconstitutional operations comes largely from the importation and extensive brushfires in this area of Long Island in August 1995 were
and sale of tremendous quantities of illegal hard drugs. This operation allegedly caused by certain particle accelerator/particle beam operations
involves an extensive network of accomplices and associates in the (or malfunctions), and in fact these fires were the primary reason that
underworld and organized crime elements. Regional law enforcement Mr. Nichols was asked to meet with the above-mentioned Col. Roth.
agencies including East Hampton Town Police have been charged by This was apparently an attempt on the part of the Air Force to ascertain
some with a consistent policy of "looking the other way" as drug whether or not Nichols could shed some light on what was going wrong
smugglers' boats unload their cargo onto Eastern Long Island's numerous with the interlinked series of subterranean accelerators between
and often remote beaches at night, signaled by bonfires lit by pick-up Brookhaven Labs and Montauk Point. A question that comes to mind at
crews on shore. Ordinances prohibiting nighttime fires on beaches in this this point is to what extent local governments are aware of the secret
area are notoriously unenforced, much to the consternation of a great operations being conducted in their vicinity, and also to what extent
many East Hampton Town residents and officials: and, just a quick car some of them are actually involved in the operations themselves or in
or plane ride away is the biggest, most densely populated marketplace in covering up the truth. Its impossible to believe there isn't some
the country -- New York City. According to an informed source with the awareness of the situation on the part of local governments; certainly
U.S. Justice Dept., the Long Island, N.Y. area has literally no (zero) New York State and its State Parks Department are thoroughly aware
federal drug smuggling cases pending, and there have been very few, if that federal agencies are firmly ensconced in the Montauk underground
any such cases for a number of years now in the Long Island area. This beneath the off-limits "Camp Hero State Park". Other examples of
is, of course, in stark contrast to much of the United States' borders and clandestine, unethical, unconscionable, horrific and unconstitutional
coastline, and must be viewed with some suspicion. Organized crime government "research" operations on Long Island would be the genetic
elements (Mafia) working in conjunction with clandestine NSA and CIA and biological research and experimentation leading to the development
units, are said to be strongly connected to these aspects of the Montauk of the AIDS virus, the "Gulf War Syndrome", Lyme disease, biological
Project, and also to be responsible for a percentage of the victims & chemical weapons, etc., at facilities like Cold Spring Harbor
procured for experimentation, which as noted usually involve teenage Laboratories and Plum Island Disease Research Facility (several miles
Caucasian males. offshore from Montauk and totally restricted -- even the airspace above).
Dr. Leonard Horowitz of Harvard University has chronicled the role
PARTICLE BEAM TECHNOLOGY these and other institutions have played in the creation of deadly new
On the scientific front there is strong evidence, detailed by Nichols in his diseases such as the "Gulf War Syndrome" and the horrifying uses which
most recent book Pyramids of Montauk, which indicates particle they have been and are being put to in his book Emerging Viruses --
accelerators are in use at Montauk Air Force Station and at nearby Aids and Ebola.
facilities -- such as Brookhaven Labs -- for powering interdimensional
experiments, particle beam weapons, HAARP transmissions (see above), DIGGING FOR THE TRUTH
and exotic particle beam radar systems. The peculiarities and lack of any Several Congressional investigative groups have reportedly looked into
credible answers in the crash of TWA flight 800 have led some the charges made concerning Camp Hero/Montauk A.F. Station, due in
investigators of clandestine activities on Long Island to suspect the large part to the information in the books by Preston Nichols and Peter
involvement of Montauk Project operations in the crash; in particular, Moon and accounts offered by numerous witnesses. Mr. Nichols and
the use of particle beam weapons, powered by these subterranean others do have first-hand knowledge of what did and does transpire
particle accelerators. According to information from a former federal there, and they continue their efforts to bring to light the clandestine use
agent connected to the Montauk Project, it is a certainty that particle of the well documented and vast underground installation there. Charges
beam operations were involved in the crash. This aspect of the Montauk have been made that Congressional investigators are currently being
Project has not been researched very deeply in this report; in Pyramids duped, misled and just plain lied to in their attempts to determine how
of Montauk, Preston Nichols does provide some information on the the base remained in operative status after being closed in 1969, and in
general subject. And what or whom are these weapons being used their attempts to discover what kinds of activities have been and are
against? Mr. Nichols told me that in August 1995 he was informed being conducted there after legitimate funding for any operations on
directly by an Air Force colonel stationed at Montauk named Ciel Roth federal property had ceased. People responsible for or involved with
that the particle beam technology has been developed for use as a disseminating information about the Montauk Project, such as scientist
weapon. Information relayed by active agents to a former federal Alfred Bielek, Preston Nichols, and certain journalists, have been
subjected to a variety of disturbing and even harmful retaliations. Mr. willingness to use weapons of mass death and destruction -- nuclear,
Bielek, who has been employed by government agencies and private chemical and biological, apparently even (in an experimental mode)
organizations as a research scientist and who has done a great amount of against men and women in uniform serving their country in the Gulf
investigation into the entire Phoenix Project, has had his residence War, as mounting evidence shows -- and due to the levels of subliminal
bombarded by extraordinarily complex and abnormal electromagnetic fear and intimidation this engenders not only within people of other
and RF transmissions, monitored and recorded by electronics nations but within Americans too; and in addition by controlling the
technicians, which have had severe, detrimental physical and information we the people are actually given, the circle is completed and
psychological effects on him. Mr. Nichols has survived all kinds of the takeover can be accomplished.
slings and arrows; unfortunately not all of them metaphorical, by any
means. In early September 1995 and again in May 1996, attempts were *********
made against his life: the former by means of a staged, contrived auto
"accident" which left Nichols seriously injured (he's since completely It should be clearly stated in closing that none of this information is
recovered) and the latter by means of a poison nerve gas attack, carried meant to imply that all intelligence services directors and operatives and
out by the driver of a car who cut Nichols off as he was driving -- all members of the U.S. military high command are responsible for or
forcing him to stop, at which point the gas was released. A local involved in the projects described herein, nor is it meant to imply that
Montauk area resident active in publicizing Montauk Project information the U.S. government has no right to conduct any legitimate, scientific
was threatened and intimidated at a private residence and bizarre and defense related research and experimentation in many different
messages left on the property, after he somehow had been identified as fields. The activities with which this report is concerned fall far outside
the person responsible for the posting of flyers and public notices any such legitimate bounds and are operated by agencies unaccountable
detailing major aspects of the Project. Due to a number of extreme in any way to duly-elected legislative or executive authorities, in blatant
protective measures this individual had taken to keep his identity secret and wholesale disregard for the U.S. Constitution and the rights and
-- for example, the rental car he was using was rented under someone protections it affords its people. It is undoubtedly high time to wake up
else's name -- he and his attorney feel certain that there had to be some and, as they say, smell the garbage.
degree of official involvement at some governmental level, (most likely
federal intelligence), for him to have been traced to the residence, where
he was in fact only a guest at the time. A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE
When I wrote my report, I intentionally focused for the most part
A number of buildings and facilities in the general Montauk area are said on information which was not of a personal nature, with a few
by investigators to be connected via underground tunnels to the central exceptions. This was for a couple of reasons. For one thing, I wanted to
subterranean complex, among them a 7-story WW2 Naval Intelligence be as objective as possible and not come across as a "partisan" or in
building downtown, which has ostensibly been converted into private any way biased. Also, there may have been some fear of linking myself
condominium residences. This was in fact the building where Preston personally to the Project. In fact I have had at least two very vivid and
Nichols met with Air Force personnel regarding the August, 1995 L.I. clearly anomalous personal events in my past connected to this location
wildfires. There is irrefutable documentation proving such tunnels do near Montauk
exist end extend far from the Camp Hero/Air Force Station property. My Point. These have made me realize that there was something very
own investigations proved to me that there are indeed major peculiar
inconsistencies and peculiarities surrounding certain of these buildings about the location directly related to myself -- something completely
and their supposed functions -- however, in the interests of brevity I at odds with my own conscious personal history as well as with my
won't elaborate further on that point. The entire present-day hamlet of impressions and knowledge of the vicinity.
Montauk, which is about 5 miles west of the Air Force Station and the Additionally, during my personal investigation into the "Montauk
lighthouse, was basically a military camp (Camp Wykoff) under Project" and related matters, some very peculiar events and
President (and local resident) Teddy Roosevelt earlier in the century; circumstances occurred that I did not originally include in the main
about a mile north of town on the bay shore was a naval base which body of my report. I will now relate this material.
became the site of extensive submarine operations during WW2. All
these facilities and others were and are connected by means of the tunnel I spent a good percentage of the first 18-20 years of my life in
network underlying the entire area. Local newspapers ran several articles the general vicinity of Montauk, and thus was quite intrigued by the
about the situation at Montauk AF Station last year; after the East title of the first of the Montauk Project books (The Montauk Project --
Hampton Independent's first article was published late last summer they Experiments in Time) after seeing it by chance in a small bookstore
received a number of calls supporting allegations of clandestine nearly 3 years ago. When I began reading the book I experienced a
activities at Camp Hero; one from a woman -- afraid to identify herself strong shock of recognition upon seeing the photo of the base's SAGE
-- who told them that she was so glad that some information was finally radar dish on page
coming out about the situation; also that her husband was currently, at 23. Without doubt, I knew I had seen that ominous-looking edifice
that very time, working in the subterranean facility; she said she knew sometime in the not too distant past (perhaps 5-12 years previously).
for a fact that there were nine levels underground and that some of these However, I was puzzled by the fact that in all the time I spent in that
levels were vast in size. area I never had the slightest idea that any such facility as Camp Hero
********* or Montauk Air Force Station even existed. Absolutely none. I knew that
The "secret government" and those intelligence and military agencies I had never been there -- certainly not while in any normally conscious
which comprise and/or maintain it have apparently very nearly state of mind. Yet I also knew I had seen that radar dish from a pretty
completed their mission of thorough domination and control of the more close vantage point -- maybe a couple of hundred feet away at most.
overt means of influencing and molding society through the media and I explained this apparent discrepancy to myself by postulating that
communications. (The Clinton Administration seems determined to the radar dish was at the extreme eastern end of the base, near to the
introduce major monitoring [not that there isn't any already] and lighthouse, which is basically the only area of Montauk Point where I
censorship of the Internet.) These groups stand ready to use highly had ever spent any time at all. I had never done any substantial hiking
developed, perfected, and fully operational electromagnetic/RF around the area. As my family did not own a car, our trips to the
technologies like HAARP, the Montauk/Phoenix Project and others lighthouse were quite infrequent, usually only when a friend or relative
which result from an unending list of experimental programs and with a vehicle was visiting us. It was only after a day trip to Montauk
research projects, to implement operations on a domestic/national scale Point during a 1995 stay with family in East Hampton, that I realized
and a global scale which can have exert very substantial control over that in fact the SAGE radar dish is nowhere near the lighthouse. It's a
moods, emotions, thoughts, health and physiology, the subconscious, good mile away over rolling
and general level of ethical, psychic and even spiritual awareness and terrain and not visible at all from most of the lighthouse area, and my
development of the human race. As well, due to their possession of and
clear and solid memory of seeing the dish from up close could not something in the stroller which appeared to be a backpack under a
possibly be explained as having occurred during one of my relatively blanket, then went to the door of the white cinder block building and
few talked to the older fellow who had just driven up. After this the man
trips to the lighthouse. While I was at Camp Hero/Montauk Air Force with stroller continued on in the direction he had been going, passing
Station that day, April 7 1995, accompanied by my wife and two year within a few feet of us. We made eye contact and nodded in
old child, some very acknowlegement. I then began talking to one of the younger fellows who
bizarre incidents took place, as they did on a couple of subsequent was still standing near the cars, asking half-jokingly if they were doing
visits. We approached Camp Hero along Old Montauk Highway, an the "Montauk Project tour". He said he had no idea what was going on
abandoned roadway which is little more than rubble in most spots, around there (not that I asked him if he did!), and that his uncle
running along Charlie had some things stored in the white cinder block building but
the top of the bluffs above the Atlantic shore from the lighthouse that it was constantly being broken into.
through the so called "fisherman's parking lot", past Camp Hero on the The group came out of the cinder block building, and the older
south (ocean) side, and connecting with the new highway about two guy, who was obviously the group leader, addressed everyone. He said
miles he
west of the point. The (outer) perimeter fencing marking the boundary of would show them where he used to live. Both my wife and I clearly
Camp Hero is broken down in many spots, and at a spot due south of the heard
SAGE radar dish, we entered a large break in the fencing on a clear and him say this. I then said to this man that there was a police car parked
well-travelled footpath. No signs of any kind were posted in this area. over that way, just in case it mattered to him.
We progressed through another broken down fence, which marks the The man pushing the stroller was only about 100 feet away, and
"inner" the instant he heard me make the comment about the police, he quickly
perimeter of Montauk Air Force Station, also unposted with any signs, turned around and came running towards me, while pulling the stroller
and walked along the base roads to the radar dish. We spent a little while behind him. Obviously he didn't want us to see into the stroller.
there during which time I checked the radar dish out from different He then began to scream at the top of his lungs things like
vantage points in an attempt to recreate the image in my memory. I "you bet there's a cop car there, and I can get him right now and have
couldn't find the exact view I remembered but a number of buildings are you arrested! What are you doing here? This area is completely off
partly or completely demolished right around limits to the public," and so on in the same vein. I asked him what the
there so that could be a factor. The dish itself, however seemed quite problem was. I said that all the maps show this to be a State Park. I
familiar. We were just leaving the area when suddenly a late model blue asked what was going on around the area, and said as well that we saw
pickup truck approached our direction on a road running parallel to the no
one we were on. The truck screeched to a halt as soon as the driver signs indicating the area was restricted, and why should it be so
spotted us. I immediately smiled and waved, and we stopped walking. restricted? He kept yelling and screaming at us, saying that I was lying
The about the signs as he had put them up himself. I then mentioned that I
driver was obviously checking us out, although he was about a hundred had been hearing a lot of things about the area recently, and he went
yards away and I couldn't see very clearly. I just smiled and waved nuts again, screaming that anything I had heard was a bunch of lies! I
again, and we began walking away from the truck back the way we had never even said what it was I had heard.
come, toward the shore, trying to act as innocent and innocuous as Finally my wife asked him to please calm down as we both (?)
possible. The truck then took off. I must mention that on this and all had children with us. He said, "look, he's arguing with me, he's arguing
subsequent visits to Camp Hero/ Montauk Air Force Station I was struck with me", and then he ran off, never going to get the police after all
by the overwhelmingly that. I continued to make challenging comments and every time I did
creepy, unpleasant and eerie feeling around the entire facility, as my he'd
wife was also. Both of felt strongly that we were being watched the turn around, come back and yell in my face with the baby stroller held
entire time we were in or near the base, and we continually heard behind him, then turn and run away. This was some of the most bizarre
rustling in the dense, nearly impenetrable bushes and undergrowth behavior I'd ever seen.
around He soon got away from us and as far as we could tell he just
the property. In addition, several deer literally followed us for long disappeared. We were at a place where there was a clear view in all
stretches, seeming not just unafraid but almost aggressive. Very strange directions and he was nowhere to be seen. It's also clear that he didn't
and quite unlike the behavior of any other deer I've ever been near in have a baby in the stroller; he was pushing it very roughly and was
my life. There was another rather unsettling incident involving a deer constantly trying to keep us from seeing into it. During our last
which I will come to shortly. Two days later, on Sunday April 9, we exchange I was able to get a peek into the stroller and I saw what
returned to Montauk Air Force Station to look around the base some looked like a doll, mostly covered with a blanket, and a pack.
more. We went to another part of the base north of the radar dish, where I spoke to Preston Nichols later and told him of our
a number of relatively intact experience. He was very interested and said the individual I had
buildings still stand. We noticed some children playing atop a red and encountered with the stroller was most likely Donald Balcuns, officially
white transmitter tower (not the radar dish), which is about 75 feet a State Parks vehicle maintenance worker who is actually a base security
tall and right next to a building where a State Parks Police officer guard. Nichols explained that Balcuns had been responsible for getting
lives (though I didn't know that at the moment). As we began walking himself and two others arrested and charged with trespassing in a
toward this tower, two cars pulled up to a flat topped, white cinder restricted area, when they weren't even within the inner (restricted)
block structure, and about ten people piled out of the cars. One fellow perimeter. After speaking with Nichols, I looked up the name Donald
was distinctly older; the rest, mostly male, appeared to be about 18-22 Balcuns in the phone book and called him. I explained who I was and
years old. We passed close by the older fellow and he and I said hello that
to each other. He then walked to the cinder block building with some of we had just had a big argument earlier that day at Camp Hero, and said I
the group while the rest of them milled around the cars and the wanted to clarify a few things. Balcuns never missed a beat, and never
building. We continued toward the tower where the kids were still asked me how I got his name or number. I told Balcuns that I used to
playing and as we approached we saw a State Parks Police car, so we live in the area and wanted to check out the relatively new state park
turned around. Going back toward the two cars that had just arrived I property, and that in fact we really didn't see any signs the way we
saw another man approaching from the direction of the old mess hall and entered the base. I asked him why the area was restricted to the public.
traffic circle. He was pushing a cloth, sling-type baby stroller with Balcuns said that there are toxic materials all around and also that the
large wheels, and my immediate impression was that there was no baby buildings keep getting vandalized so they have to keep people out. Why
in these toxic materials and buildings are even there if it has been State
it. There seemed to be almost no weight in the stroller and he was Park property for so many years was not explained. Balcuns also said
pushing it roughly and quite fast. He bent down and fiddled with that he had been driving the blue pickup truck on Friday and had seen
me the portable phone approached me, still talking into his phone. The
and my family near the SAGE radar dish then. woman asked why I was filming her house and I replied that I was
It was during this and a later conversation where Balcuns filming
replied affirmatively to my questions as to whether he was an employee the woods behind her house and the path that led into the woods (Camp
of Montauk Air Force Station, officially closed some 26 years Hero property). She asked why, and I said that I didn't wish to tell
previously. Interestingly enough, even after Balcun's became aware that her, and that I was standing on public property. Apparently I had
I was a "trespasser" at Camp Hero, he in fact made no move to evict me inadvertently put one foot on the driveway of the house, and at that
or call in law enforcement. point the man next door went completely nuts and started screaming at
In my conversation with Nichols I also described the events me
involving the two carloads of people who pulled up to the cinder block at the top of his lungs (there seems to be a lot of that around there).
building on the base, previous to the blowout with Balcuns. Nichols and He said I was trespassing and that he was calling the police
Moon both told me that they had met the man who was storing things in immediately. I took my foot off the driveway and told him to go ahead
that building, that his name was Tom Costello and that he ran the bar and call. Things were getting a bit heated. I said loudly that I was a
and restaurant at Montauk Downs State Park, about three miles west citizen of the United States and I had a right to be on any public
toward Montauk village. They had encountered him on one of their street any time and this jerk better not get in my way. He then chilled
forays a bit and told the woman to get our license plate number, which she did.
into the base, and he told Nichols and Moon he had been using the I finished my taping and we drove off. Our next stop was Montauk
building for several years to store some possessions. There was just one Downs State Park, where we were going to try to find either Tom
problem -- the description they gave for Tom Costello didn't match that Costello or "Uncle Charlie" and figure out what that whole business was
of "Uncle Charlie" at all, and I'll return to this point in a moment. about. We found Charlie working the bar
I was getting a bit bent out of shape at running into all at Montauk Downs. There were a couple of guys in there, and Charlie
these hassles for going onto property which is supposed to be for public consistently tried to avoid making eye contact with me. After the others
use. I was very curious why children were running around this left, I said hello to Charlie, and mentioned that we'd seen him at Camp
supposedly Hero two days before. He then admitted he recognized me, commenting
highly toxic and hazardous area and were not in any way accosted or that
told "that guy" (Balcuns) really "went nuts on me" the other day. Charlie
to leave by Balcuns or anyone else. It was becoming more and more added that "they" have lots of problems with Balcuns, but didn't state
obvious that there was something very fishy about the entire setup. Also who "they" were. I then attempted to get Charlie to elaborate on why
curious was the fact that much of neighborhood where Balcuns lives, there was
which used to be base housing, has direct, unrestricted access to Camp such high security at the facility, but he just gave the increasingly
Hero, as does a baseball field nearby. I decided to return to the area bogus-sounding story about toxicity, vandalism etc. As Charlie
with the purpose of trying to stir things up and get some answers, or at continued
least some kind of reaction. First I went to the baseball field just east of he said that he had stored personal possessions in the flat topped,
Balcun's neighborhood and apparently leased to East Hampton white cinder block building at Camp Hero for a number of years, and it
Township. I was a big hassle because it was constantly being broken into. One would
videotaped the two roads which enter Camp Hero from this field and are certainly have to wonder why he would continue using the building.
locked and posted with no trespassing signs, as well as a stretch of the The most bizarre aspect of all this is that Charlie did not
Camp Hero boundary in between these roads where there is no fencing fit the description of Tom Costello, didn't claim to be him, and was
of obviously not Tom Costello; yet according to information I received, it
any kind ( never mind any no entry signs) for what appears to be at was Costello who had run the restaurant and bar at Montauk Downs for
least 500 feet. Children or anyone else can walk right into Camp Hero a
from the field. What better way to entice kids into an area than to mark number of years and used the Camp Hero building for storage! I
it restricted in spots but leave it literally wide open along so much of subsequently discovered that Costello's phone, (address listed as
the perimeter? During this time my wife and I noticed an extremely large Fairview Drive, right near Montauk Downs State Park) had been
deer disconnected. I then called Montauk Downs, asking for Tom Costello,
about fifty feet down one of the gated entry roads within Camp Hero. and
This animal was almost totally black or dark brown. I have never seen was connected to -- you guessed it -- Charlie. Not only did this guy get
such a darkly colored deer. It stood completely still, watching us for Tom Costello's job but also apparently at least some of Costello's
some time, and I must say it was a very spooky feeling emanating from memories. As we were sitting at the bar, I told Charlie that my wife and
this deer. We looked away for an instant and when we looked toward it I had heard him tell his group of young people that he used to live at
again it had vanished. After the other incidents with the deer several Camp Hero. His response was immediate and unequivocal. He denied it
days previously, I was coming to the tentative conclusion that some of completely! There is no possibility that we misunderstood him two days
the deer in the area were being somehow utilized by Project operatives previously at the base.
as spies, perhaps by being implanted, controlled and monitored; my Returning home from Montauk that evening, we were pulled over
theory is that the animals' sensory data can be picked up and made by an East Hampton Town Police officer who passed us going the other
accessible to base personnel for security purposes. Nichols told me that direction, made a rapid U-turn and stopped and detained us for a good
this is certainly within the realm of possibility. half hour. They had gotten a report about the incident earlier at
We then went to the area where Mr. Balcuns lives. Here we Lincoln Avenue, and our car fit the description of this "suspicious"
videotaped open and unlocked gates leading into Camp Hero as well as vehicle. It was almost dark and there was certainly no shortage of red
other areas with no fencing at all. We also observed children riding compacts on the road, so apparently this fairly minor incident of about
bikes within the perimeter of the restricted area. Neither Balcuns nor four hours previous was considered a rather high priority!
any other security personnel accosted them or interfered with them in I relayed my version of the Lincoln Avenue events to the young
any way. There were no signs of any kind in the entire neighborhood officer, including the fact that I was standing on a public street and
prohibiting entry to this so called restricted area! In fact we saw had a perfect right to film trees if I wanted to. I told him that I grew
paths which led from private yards directly into Montauk Air Force up in the area and had moved away, and was visiting my family. I also
Station. As I was videotaping one of these paths in a backyard on said that I had been running into all kinds of problems in the vicinity
Lincoln Avenue, a man in the yard of the house next door was watching of what was to me a new State Park facility and that I was getting
us pretty irritated about it. I even mentioned that I'd been filming open
and scowling while talking rapidly into a portable phone. At this point accesses to this "restricted" area. What was restricted, and for whom?
a woman came out of the house whose yard I was filming, and the man And why? At this point another police car arrived, so it seems I was
with considered to be at least somewhat of a risk. An older cop got out who
wanted to hear the entire story as well. He then told us that almost all business. At this point he got completely flustered, as I noted earlier
of Camp Hero "State Park" was restricted to the public. He actually even in the main body of this report, referred me to the State Parks legal
used the word "private". Since when is State Park property private? He department, and hung up.
went on with the usual spiel about toxicity and what not, and said that Preston Nichols, upon hearing of these events, interpreted
our best bet was not to go past the "fisherman's gate" on Old Montauk things as follows. According to Nichols the fact that Balcuns, obviously
Highway, way up near the lighthouse. I knew that was complete bulls--t. a federally employed security guard at Camp Hero with a cover title of
After no doubt running my license and other information equipment mechanic and maintenance worker for the State Parks system,
through every data bank they could possibly think of, they let me go as had seen me within the restricted area two separate times and did
they of course had nothing on me. nothing about it meant that he recognized me in some way or other, or
I decided after this that it wouldn't be such a good idea to believed (or knew!) that I was allowed to be there, that I was in fact
get myself cited and/or arrested for trespassing at Camp Hero as I "one of the crew". Only after he heard my comment to "Uncle Charlie"
needed to return to California soon, but I figured I'd still keep trying about the police car did he apparently realize I was an "intruder" who
to shake things up. I went to the Town Police headquarters a few days was not "authorized" to be on the property. According to Nichols, this
later, to get their file on the Lincoln Avenue incident. I told them I seems to indicate that I could have been involved in the "Project" in
was considering pressing charges against the individual with the some capacity, or that I could currently be so involved. While Nichols
portable phone for making threats against me and my family. The police could well be right, I also feel that I was projecting a very confident
advised me to be careful about that as I in turn could be charged with and strong energy during the visits to Camp Hero. To me, the land at
false arrest if my claims proved unfounded. Upon going over the Montauk Point, Turtle Cove and Camp Hero belongs irrefutably to the
incident Montauk Indians, and neither New York State Parks nor the federal
with my wife we decided that we had not been overtly threatened with government have any right to bar anyone from this property.
physical harm, although the insinuations were made. However the other The entire legal situation regarding Camp Hero and the
incident involving Balcuns seemed a clear violation of State Park rules, administration thereof is highly unusual, bizarre, and in some respects
and was a very disturbing and threatening experience for me and my quite ludicrous. There is no doubt whatsoever that the official cover
family. Pursuing that line, I called New York State Park Police story about the location is completely full of holes. Major inroads in
headquarters in Babylon and told the officer who answered the phone terms of breaking the story open could be made from this angle alone.
about the Camp Hero incident. As soon as I mentioned the area, I heard a Aside from the Montauk Indians' totally rightful claim to the property,
recording device activate on their end. Once the officer heard my story, the land was turned over to New York State for the use of its people
he told me that as far as he knew Balcun's superior was a man named many years ago. Residents of East Hampton Township, New York State
George Larsen, superintendent of all the Montauk area state parks. He and
clearly stated that State Parks Police would not have any authority in the Unites States in general should be asking why this property
this matter, despite the fact that Balcuns was obviously acting as a continues to be off-limits to the public. In my estimate, nearly 75
security guard at Camp Hero. percent of Camp Hero State Park is unusable by the public. I know for a
My next move was to meet personally with George Larsen at his fact that the demolition of buildings and removal of toxic materials
Montauk Downs office and relate the entire incident to him in great could be accomplished in a vastly shorter amount of time than eleven
detail. However, before going to see Larsen I had another conversation years.
with Donald Balcuns , in which I asked him who his superior at
Montauk There are some other peculiar facts about Camp Hero I would
Air Force Station was. Once again he never corrected me about working like to mention. My wife and I went out there very early one morning,
for the technically long-defunct Montauk Air Force Station, and he and parked off (new) Montauk Highway at the intersection of the main
declined to name his superior. entrance road into Camp Hero, and we observed a vehicle exiting this
In my meeting with George Larsen I omitted any references to supposedly derelict and closed facility at about 5:30 AM and it wasn't
the Montauk Project but simply told him the facts of my encounter and the State Park Police either. We were also both acutely aware of a
the extremely bizarre and disturbing incident with Balcuns. I was distinct and pervasive throbbing, humming sound which emanated from
officially registering a major complaint, including the fact this State the
Park property was restricted to the public at all, and also that long general vicinity of Montauk Air Force Station; without doubt the sound
stretches of the perimeter of this area had no fencing of any kind nor of heavy machinery being operated. This was clearly audible in the
any signs indicating that it is in fact restricted. Larsen did the same general calm and quiet of the early morning. Needless to say, no such
old routine about dangerous conditions, toxicity and so forth. I asked functional machinery is located anywhere on this property, on the
why conditions were still thus if the property had belonged to New York surface that is. I also visited the location on my own several months
State for (at the time) over eleven years. Larsen said that funds were later.
currently very tight in the Parks system, although I was aware that The so called "fisherman's parking lot" which is quite close to the
Montauk Downs and Montauk Point State Parks have recently had some lighthouse was half filled with a tremendous amount of huge boulders.
fairly substantial renovations and sprucing up. Larsen also said that The lot had been completely empty of any such boulders the last time I
Camp Hero is used by cultists and the like for strange ceremonies, and was there. Nichols and other investigators have commented on the fact
that human blood had been found at the SAGE radar dish tower(?)! that large numbers of such huge boulders periodically show up near
Larsen said he was taking note of my complaint and would bring Montauk Point, and are often then moved into position with heavy
it to the attention of Balcun's superior! I was told by the State Parks equipment to fortify point itself from the undeniably extensive erosion
Police that Larsen was Balcun's superior. Now Larsen was indicating which does occur there. (The lighthouse used to be several hundred feet
this from the point; it's now virtually right at the point.) The curious
was not the case. Something was extremely peculiar about all this. thing is that no one seems to know how these boulders arrive at
I called Larsen back the next day and told him that though I Montauk.
appreciated the meeting with him, I was completely unhappy with the No trucks are ever seen bringing them in, no barges ever unload them at
entire situation as was the rest of my family, and that we were going to the point. Where then do they come from? They obviously must
pursue legal action. I said that my attorney needed the name of Balcun's originate
superior. Now contradicting his statement the day before, Larsen on site, and since they are not being quarried on the surface they can
hurriedly said, "There are many levels of heirarchy here. I have 65 only come from underground.
people under me and there are different divisions and so forth, but
ultimately I am Balcun's superior!" POSTSCRIPT -- PERSONAL NOTES (continued)
I then told Larsen that Balcun's had (passively) identified
himself to me on a few occasions as an employee of Montauk Air Force I also did some investigation into the "Montauk Tower" building in
Station, and asked whether Larsen could explain this convoluted the village of Montauk, said by Nichols and other investigators to be
used in Montauk Project activities and to be connected via underground was little more than a closet and part of it was cut off by an angled,
tunnels to other clandestine facilities in the area. sloping wall which severely restricted the space. The real estate agent
I went to the location with my wife (and child) and instantly told us it was because of some stairway which led to the penthouse,
found some peculiarities. We went into the lobby of the building, which although there was no indication of any such stairway outside the
has ostensibly been converted to condominium apartments, and copied apartment.
down The agent kept telling us how good either unit would be for
some of the names off the intercom. I was struck by the fact that there us, an obvious absurdity. When leaving this apartment we were again
were no mailboxes anywhere in, on or around the building for very
"residents" puzzled by the layout of the sixth floor and couldn't really figure out
to receive their mail, which is certainly quite strange. We tried what was where in relation to the main (external) structure of the
buzzing a few of the bells to gain entry, but there was no response. building. It definitely seemed as though there was a substantial amount
While snooping about the building, we also noticed that there was a of space unaccounted for on this floor. We made a point to ask the real
separate entrance apparently leading to the basement of building, which estate agent what was in the basement of building and whether it was
was thoroughly locked. For a building which supposedly had at least 40 accessible to the occupants. We received no clear reply.
units in it, there were very few cars in the parking lot, as has been We then contacted the party who was selling the third floor
the case every time I've ever looked in the lot while in the area. apartment and made an appointment to see it. Although the layout of the
Upon leaving the building we encountered a Suffolk County third floor was different than that of the other two floors we had seen
Water Authority meter reader, who asked us if we lived there. We replied it was not bizarre or disorienting. The fellow was quite friendly and
negatively, saying we were calling on a friend who wasn't home. The seemed, as did the real estate agent, quite sure that the place was just
fellow told us that the building presented a constant problem as the right for us and that we would really like to live there. We asked him
water meter was not accessible to him; he had never been able to read about the basement, about what was down there and so forth and once
the meter, and was never able to raise anyone inside the building to let again received no clear answer.
him in! This from an employee of the county government! Several days later, while videotaping the outside of the tower
Astonished, my wife subsequently contacted the Suffolk County building, my wife and I both saw a face appear in a window adjacent to
Water Authority, asking them what they were doing about this very the sixth floor hallway in front of the elevator, which should have been
bizarre situation. As my mother is a resident of the area who pays water the small bedroom we had just recently seen, yet there was no such
bills, I was rather disturbed and puzzled on this issue alone; no window in the bedroom! We could easily figure this out by counting the
matter who (or what) was occupying the Montauk Tower, they didn't number of windows visible from the outside and comparing it to the
have windows in the apartment! There is no doubt of this fact, and this
to pay for their water! The response from county personnel was a proves that there is "hidden space" in this building.
masterpiece of fuzzy, meaningless mush that said nothing at all. They There is another thing worth mentioning about this building. A
tried repeatedly to deflect our questioning about the ownership of the year later in April 1996 I decided to rustle through the building's
building, etc., saying that was confidential information. They stated garbage dumpster to see what might turn up. There was virtually no
that they do receive payment for water usage at the location, but would typical household refuse. The dumpster was mostly filled with cardboard
not indicate from whom, nor how any such bill can be paid if the amount boxes and other shipping and packing materials, and the remnants of a
owed cannot be determined. I believe that county personnel deliberately number of takeout meals. Of particular interest was a good sized
obfuscated the truth about this matter. shipping carton addressed to a Ceil Roth, which is the name of the Air
My wife and I looked up the names we got off the intercom at Force colonel who met with Preston Nichols in the penthouse unit
the Montauk Tower, but could only find several of them listed. Also, during
most of these had no address listed, only P.O. boxes. We called the August 1995. This box was sent from an underwater construction
numbers we found and got an answer at just one. The woman who corporation based in San Diego California.
answered A final note -- the roof of this building is literally a
said that she was the manager of the building, and mentioned that her good-sized antenna farm, bristling with an astonishing number of
husband ran a restaurant in Montauk village. We said that I had just antennae of all shapes and sizes, and I'm not talking about TV antennae
moved back to the area with my family and were looking for a residence or ordinary satellite dishes.
to buy. We inquired whether any of the units were for sale, as we liked
the downtown location. The woman gave us the name of one of the It's also worthy of mention that upon my return to my
residents who was selling their condo on the third floor, as they had California residence after the 1995 trip, and continuing to this day, I
moved to another dwelling. began receiving numerous bizarre phone calls, sometimes several a day,
Later, checking the local real estate listings, we did find a in which there is nothing but "dead air" on the other end. This went on
two other condos listed for sale, one by the owner, the other by a real even after we had our number changed to an unlisted number.
estate agency in Montauk. As it turned out the privately advertised
condo was being handled by the same agency as the other listed unit, so There is one other peculiar incident in my past I can call to
we had an agent at that office show us the two units. One was on the mind concerning this location.
first floor and one was on the sixth floor. There is a so called My father worked in NYC journalism for many years, and during
penthouse unit above the sixth floor which we were repeatedly told had most of the 1970s was feature editor for The NY Daily News. Some time
recently been purchased by an elderly woman. (This was where Preston in
Nichols was taken to meet with numerous Air Force officials in August the mid-1970s before I moved to California, my family went to East
1995. No elderly woman was part of that event.) Hampton for the weekend. I would have been about 20-22 years old. We
The first floor apartment was basically a long, rather narrow lived at that time mainly in Queens, but spent much time on eastern
unit with only one large window facing south. There were no other Long
windows, and the overall effect was quite claustrophobia-inducing. Why Island. My father had mentioned to me before we arrived in East
this agent would continually state that it was just right for us, with a Hampton
two year old child, is beyond me. that he really wanted me to accompany him and a colleague, Pat
She then took us up to the sixth floor unit and here's where O'Haire,
things really got odd. Both my wife and I (and maybe our little boy the next morning (Saturday) to visit some fellow living in Ditch Plains
too!) were thoroughly disoriented upon exiting the elevator on the sixth ( a neighborhood roughly halfway between Montauk village and Camp
floor. The entire layout was completely different than the first floor; Hero
the walls and hallways were at very odd angles to the elevator entrance; on the Atlantic shore), whom they were apparently going to interview, I
everything seemed out of kilter. The apartment, though not as confining guess for The Daily News. I was never totally clear on the reason they
as the other, was laid out in a very strange way. One of the "bedrooms" were visiting him, let alone why it was so imperative that I go along!
My dad seemed to think this was a really interesting and fascinating The rest of my memories of this event are nil. Later in the
person with some very newsworthy information to impart. He stressed day we got driven back to East Hampton and it was quite late. I was also
several times that he really wanted me to go with them. feeling pretty low and depressed.
The next morning my father again reiterated how much he wanted It seems that we definitely arrived back home later than one
me to accompany him and Pat O'Haire (who lived (lives) in Montauk), would expect, as we went out to Ditch Plains certainly before noon, and
and I remember quite well how I couldn't handle being there at all. I think
after a call from my dad Ms. O'Haire drove from Montauk to pick us up it was at most about forty-five minutes to an hour until I started
and bring us to this man's place in Ditch Plains. It was a rather signalling my dad to leave.
wintery and gloomy day I recall. I've looked for this location more than a few times in recent
Upon arriving at this man's "house" I was immediately struck years, and just couldn't find it. I am certain that we went to the Ditch
by its uncharacteristically (for Montauk and East Hampton Township) Plains area, but I found nothing there that looked similar. Finally,
drab when I was visiting my family again in April of 1996, I had a
and plain appearance, and its somewhat unusual cement construction. As breakthrough. There was an article in the local paper about a tract of
best I can recall this man had a Germanic name. Inside, this rather land in Montauk known as Shadmoor, which was being bought by the
elderly (maybe 55-60), ex-military seeming man quickly engaged my federal
father government from the owner/developer who had been refused permission
and Pat in a fairly animated conversation in which he basically to
pilloried the federal income tax system and the IRS. Now it doesn't take develop the land for at least ten years.
a genius to figure that is a subject on which you are going to get a The article went on to say that this property was originally
definite and strong response from virtually anybody -- there aren't too an extension of Camp Hero, and that the only remaining structures on it
many people, especially among the middle class, who wouldn't get on were two military buildings, actually machine-gun nests, built to look
board that train pretty quickly (the anti-IRS express). I was like private residences. This area was bought by a developer but the
half-listening, but not too involved. I picked up something about this Town of East Hampton (the hamlet of Montauk is within East Hampton
man I didn't like, I couldn't figure out yet why it was so important for Township) refused to allow him to build on the property, almost
me to go along, and I was feeling a bit bored and uncomfortable. certainly due to pressure from certain federal agencies, and now the
They went into a little study or office and I started looking Federal government was buying the land outright and designating it a
around this fellow's living room, whereupon I saw at least a few Nature Preserve, forever "safe" from any development or other private
publications of radical (and racist) right wing groups, indicating this use. This story really piqued my interest, as it was about the only
man's politics were diametrically opposed certainly to mine and pretty stretch of coastline I hadn't yet checked in my efforts to ascertain
much to my father's also. where the house we had visited some 20 years ago actually was.
The whole point of us -- especially me --being there escaped I went to Shadmoor, which is directly west of the Ditch Plains
me, and I found the literature in the living room very upsetting, public bathhouse and parking lot, and found there what very much
disturbing and distasteful. There was something very weird about the appeared to be the filled-in and subsequently partly caved-in
house too. It just didn't feel like a house. Most home construction in foundations/basements of three structures which were no longer
that area is wood frame, with certain exceptions -- especially in newer standing.
construction. This was definitely not new, yet obviously not very old as Without doubt, this was the area where the man we had visited lived, but
it was cement and cinder block. It was also pretty small, one story and the "houses" were now gone. Obviously, it was not a real house this man
basically very square, with the interior divided into a living room, the had lived in as I had correctly intuited at the time, but was some kind
study, a kitchen and bedroom in the rear which I never saw, and what of military building. As this entire property was actually part of Camp
looked like a small closet. Hero it's now known that it was connected to the main base via tunnels.
After milling around outside for few minutes, where I was Given the time frame of our visit, this man was undoubtedly engaged in
again struck by the rather peculiar architectural style of the building, some kind of activity connected to the Montauk Project which had then
in a part of the country where such things are often commented on and recently gotten in full swing. Apparently, I was part of that activity,
talked about (sometimes to a very tedious degree), I went back in and that day. I may never be able to find out too much more as my father
started making major eye signals at my dad to get the hell out of there. died nine years ago, and his former colleague Pat O'Haire has not
I was really feeling bent out of shape, had nothing in common with this returned my calls. I have the racial and genetic background which has
person, couldn't imagine why anyone wanted me to come there, found apparently proved desirable to the operators of the Montauk/Phoenix
his Project(s) -- blue-eyed and light haired, with lots of German blood on
politics very disturbing, and I wanted to GO! both sides, and Celtic (Irish) on my father's side.
My dad responded to me and the three of them came out of the
study into the living room, at which point, out of politeness, I made As I'm most certainly not a scientist, quantum or particle
some brief small talk with the man we were visiting. Mainly, I was very physicist, radio-electronics genius, ex-military-intelligence operative,
curious about his house and said so. I said I thought it was rather or anything remotely like any of those, the question would be -- for
unusual, I couldn't place the period or style of construction, that it what purpose could I possibly have been inducted (or is that abducted?)
didn't really feel or look like a house built for a family, etc. I can't into the Montauk Project? Given that probably tens of thousands of
recall exactly how he responded, but he pointed out the other rooms youngsters of varying ages have been and are being (usually
toward the rear. At that point I either asked him about the small unwittingly)
rectangular protrusion right next to me which seemed to be a closet, or conscripted for "use" in virtually all phases and aspects of this
else he pointed it out. I recall him opening the door, and saying that Project and numerous other clandestine projects (I'd think from
it actually was a stairway that went to the basement. dishwashers and sanitation workers to particle physicists and everything
At this point something strange happened but I can't in between -- the Montauk underground is in fact an underground city),
completely remember what. I'm certain he said something about the there may be no way to say for certain how I may have been used. As
basement that was very strange, very unusual, that just seemed really there is such severe psychological and spiritual manipulation and abuse
odd -- but my memory fails me here. Now what could be strange about a involved in the programming of conscripted victims, in addition to
basement? Well, it must be different in some way from what one would deliberate memory-tampering and other mind-wiping procedures, there
expect: either more or less somehow than what a basement would may
normally be no way to say for certain if I was so used at all.
be. My strong feeling is that he said the basement was in fact connected It's conceivable and I think likely that inductees are scanned
to or part of a tunnel system. I can't find in my mind any clear and and evaluated for any particular abilities which they possess and are
solid memory of what occurred immediately after he pointed out the shunted accordingly into corresponding functions at the Montauk base.
stairway. If
that were to be the case, then very likely my talents, skills and He has been on over 50 radio talk shows and a featured presentator at
abilities would probably be strongest in two fields: writing and music over 40 conferences
composition, and perhaps these talents (or others) were taken advantage 2000
of and utilized by Project administrators. I also think I might possess 2137
a bit of so-called "psychic" ability -- maybe more than I'm aware of. After Ed and Duncan jumped off the USS Eldridge in 1943, they landed
According to Preston Nichols, popular music has been used extensively in the year 2137.
by They both spent six weeks in a hospital bed recovering from radiation
the operators of the Montauk Project as a tool for influencing the burns suffered from being in hyperspace.
"collective unconscious" if you will; in particular that of the younger Toward the end of their stay, Ed is moved, by means unknown to him to
generation. Nichols states that state-of-the-art recording facilities and the year 2749.
psycho-acoustic techniques were utilized to "insert" subliminal Ed returns from 2751 to pick up his brother Duncan and together they
programming into popular music which can trigger certain responses and travel back to 1983.
changes in awareness; also that time-travel technology enabled this to 2749
be implemented both in the past as well as the present (and presumably From 2137, Ed Cameron travels alone to 2749 for a period of two years.
the future too). Music was and is considered a very powerful and Ed is a tour guide and remembers floating cities built with anti-gravity
effective way to access the deeper emotional and instinctual levels of technology and a society run by computers.
consciousness, and contemporary popular music has been thoroughly The programmers of the computers are called the "Wing Makers". Ed
infiltrated by intelligence agencies, secret societies and (secret) had several meetings with then where they explained their agenda.
governments to that end. Such infiltration and subversion of other forms After two years, Ed goes back to the year 2137.
of
communication and entertainment including television networks, the
motion picture industry and the news media in general has been explored Damian Cameron
and documented, but I guess it's a bit of a shock for personal reasons Montauk Survivor
to realize that contemporary music has not escaped such a fate. Mr. Damian Cameron is a Montauk Project survivor in more than one sense
Nichols has further stated as well that, once again, the Mafia has of the word. He has lived for many years with completely supressed
worked and is working hand in glove with intelligence agencies in such memories. These tormenting memories came to the surface after
operations involving mass communications. 'synchronistic' events led to him finding out about the Montauk Project,
and he underwent extensive hypnosis sessions for over two years. At
All text within this document first Damian feared losing his home, family, job, and sanity. And now he
is the sole property of the owner has, he has come forward to tell his story. Omega Freedland went to
and copyright holder -- John A. Quinn. interview Damian Cameron at his new home in Canada. What followed
Reproduction by Permission only. was the unfolding of a story that could no longer be surpressed. A story
Copyright (c) 1997 so terrifying, so incredible, so humbling, that it we considered making it
John A. Quinn password protected, but no, Damian's story must be told to everyone
84 Sherrill Rd. who will listen. WARNING! The interview that follows contains
East Hampton, New York 11937 material some people may find disturbing.
all rights reserved

Omega: When did you first realize you were a 'Montauk survivor'?
1916 Damian: Well, yer see, at first I didn't, it was, yer know, supressed.
Birth date for Ed Cameron. Al Bielek is the regressed essence of Ed Omega: So the memories came later?
Cameron. Damian: Yeah sure, after I went to Doris for my hynosis sessions.
Birth date of Al Bielek. Al's first memories are at Christmas when he Omega: What happened during the sessions?
was one year old and understanding all the conversation. Damian: I would lie down and Doris would lead me into a deep trance.
1927 1943 Suddenly the memories came back.
August 13th 1943 - Date of the Philadelphia Experiment. Omega: What did you remember?
When Ed and Duncan Cameron jump off the USS Eldridge, they both Damian: I remembered being tied to a chair in a room that was decorated
land in the year 2137. with animal print paper on the walls. It was all dark except for a fiqure
1953 who came towards me. He was a large round fiqure who smelled real
Final year of Ed Cameron's linear experience. Ed knew too much and bad. I could hear his heavy breathing and he was wearing a reptile suit.
irritated Dr. Edward Teller. Omega: A reptile suit?
A group of three voted Ed off the Atomic Bomb project and ultimately Damian: Like the kind you find in a secondhand store. All green and
out of existence as Ed Cameron. scaly lookin.
Ed is regressed to Al Bielek to the year 1927. Omega: You must have been scared?
1983 Damian: For sure, I went into a deep supressed sub-personality of
Ed and Duncan Cameron find themselves at Montauk 1983 after myself. It was in that sub-personality I worked on the Elridge.
spending six weeks in 2137. Omega: You mean, are you saying you were involved directly with the
Dr. John Von Neumann greets the two and convinces them to time travel Philadelphia Experiment?
back to the USS Eldridge in 1943. to destroy the control equipment and Damian: Gee, sure I was, show me a Montauk survivor who wasn't.
shut the experiment down. Omega: What happened on the Eldrige?
Al is recruited to work at Montauk. He keeps the guise of his regular job Damian: I was told to go to the main control room with my brother
as an electronics contractor, but works in an altered state at Montauk. Edwin and we were to switch the machine on to make the ship invisible.
He was a program manager for the Montauk Boys program, participated Omega: You mean invisible to radar?
in the mind control experiments, and actively participated in time travel Damian: No, really invisible, to the eye. We went down into the room
projects. and Edwin said "Damian, this is sure one doddlelacking piece of
In 1988, his memories returned and believes he was not used any further horseshit, lets jump ship". I kinda agreed with him but felt a duty to Dr
at Montauk. Rinehart. So when Edwin weren't lookin I pulled the switch and ran out
1970-1988 2000 of the room after him. Edwin jumped overboard and he pulled me over
Presently Al Bielek speaks publicly about his involvement at Montauk too.
and the Philadelphia Experiment. Omega: What happened then?
Damian: Well, damnit, if we didn't end up in 1983.
Omega: You jumped overboard as the ship was becoming invisible and never gonna believe it if is too glossy"
ended up in 1983, where did you arrive? Omega: What did you find out about your past involvement with the
Damian: A parking lot. project?
Omega: It wasn't near the site of the original ship then? Damian: Oh that, well, gee it was all so hazy, but as I was doing the
Damian: Oddly enough no. It was dark and I had vomited, must have video with Alan I passed out and remembered the beast incident.
been the time travelin' that did it. I was more worried about Edwin. Omega: The beast incident?
Omega: Why was that? Damian: It all happened back in 1983. I had just returned from 1943 and
Damian: He wasn't there no more. was tired. I sat down in a chair and laid back. Next, this fat guy comes in
Omega: What do you think had happened to him? wearing a disgusting pullover. He says, "Lie back Damian" I was
Damian: At the time I didn't have a geewacking idea, hey it was like shit shocked, he knew my name. So I did as he said while he strapped me in,
in tree out there. I found him later that month. then I vomited.
Omega: Where did you find him, and how? Omega: Was the chair, the actual now famous Montauk chair as seen in
Damian: I had seen an advertisement for a talk being given by a Preston the Peter Moon book?
Nichols. Damian: Yeah, but less comfortable.
Omega: Yes of course, Preston. Omega: What happened next?
Damian: I went along to the talk and I was mightily impressed. I was Damian: The guy in the shit pullover went over to a machine and turned
sitting next to a man and we got to talking. He was tellin me about how all the dials all the way round. There was a red one that was labelled
since he had read the Montauk Project books and come to Preston's talks 'Danger', I couldn't believe it when he turned that one around to 10.
he had not been the same since. His wife had left him and he was Omega: Did he tell you what he was doing?
stopped from seeing his kids. It was weird, cos that had happened to me Damian: No, but I could hear him humming to himself.
too. Omega: Do you know what he was humming?
Omega: But didn't you say you only arrived in 1983 a month before? Damian: 'Riders on the Storm' I think.
Damian: Yeah sure, but this was 1995. Omega: The Doors?
Omega: I see. So you recognised this man to be your brother Edwin? Damian: No that came later.
Damian: I knew right away. Omega: After he turned the dials what happened?
Omega: Because he looked exactly the same? Damian: I felt my whole body change, the waves of a 4500Mhz bi-wave
Damian: No, no, boy, Edwin had been white and this guy was black. It go over me with a sub atomic polyutherua flatbass. The air turned all the
was because he knew many things about the same experiences as myself. colors of the rainbow and the sky turned black. My head started to freeze
Omega: Wouldn't it have been difficult for you to believe this guy was and I managed to pull my self from the chair. I was naked as the day I
your brother as you are white and he was black? was born, and my dick was rigid with the electrodes, my muscles ached,
Damian: Why no, he had been placed into a different body when he had my mouth bled, my eyes watered. The hairs on the back of my neck
arrived in 1983. stood up, I was spinning at the speed of light and sound at the same time,
Omega: How did they do that? but in the opposite direction.
Damian: Edwin, who is now called Alan, was regressed to the age of Omega: Then what happened?
three days. In this state they slipped him out of his 'Edwin' body, and Damian: I vomited. Oh and I released a beast from the pits of hell.
into his 'Alan' body. Omega: What happened to the guy in the pullover?
Omega: How did he cope with his new identity, where did he live? Damian: He disappeared.
Didn't you also mention he had kids and his wife had divorced him? Omega: Where to?
Damian: Yeah. Yer see, he had lived as Alan before he was Edwin in Damian: It is funny you should ask me that question.
1983. He just caught up with himself as Alan after 1983. Omega: Why?
Omega: So Alan was alive before 1983? Damian: He appeared again three hours later in a different pullover.
Damian: Oh yeah, he was 46 years old in 1983. Omega: After the beast 'escaped' what did you do?
Omega: What happened to your original families, did they try and find Damian: We went back to our trailer.
you? Omega: Did you go back to the base?
Damian: They had their memories wiped after we jumped ship. Damian: Yeah sure.
Omega: You must have been tempted to go and see them? Omega: Why?
Damian: No, not really, I had no memory of them. Damian: The first video was selling so well, there was a demand for it.
Omega: What happened after you found your brother Edwin, Alan? Omega: Demand?
Damian: We decided to go back to the base and find out what had Damian: For the second video.
happened. Omega: Has being a Montauk survivor affected your life?
Omega: Why did you decide to do that? Damian: Only since about 1993.
Damian: We both had the next weekend free. Omega: What are your plans now?
Omega: Were you worried about being picked up out there? Damian: I have been doing a lot of remote viewing for the IRS, some
Damian: Oh no, they never bother guys in pairs. freelance for some major publications and I have a book coming out next
Omega: But there have been many people who claim they have been told year.
to get off the base by security. Omega: Isn't is risky for you to work for those people?
Damian: Security, gee I thought you meant the pink montauk 'boys' that Damian: It's strange, kinda an unspoken deal. I do some work for them
hang out there. and they let me live.
Omega: Back to your plans about going to the Montauk base. You had Omega: They don't mind you writing a book about your experiences?
memories of being there before? Damian: I use a different name for my books.
Damian: Yes, after Alan and me gone there that weekend. We came to an Omega: Are you worried they might find out? Recognise the details in
empty building and I said to Alan, "Gee, it would be nice and quiet in your books and identify them with you?
there, no one around to see or anything". So we went into the building Damian: No, cos I change all the names, places, dates, events, and facts.
and I started to feel dizzy. Omega: Thank you Damian, I know it must have been hard for you to
Omega: What was happening? talk about your experiences, I know it was sure hard to listen to them.
Damian: I sat down and vomited. Then Alan set the video up on the Will we ever find out the true extent of how many Montauk survivors
tripod and I hung up the lights and set up the chairs . there really are out there? Maybe not, but as long as there are people like
Omega: You had a video set up? Damian who tell their stories, we can be sure there will be many more to
Damian: Yeah, it became an underground classic. come.
Omega: What did you find out?
Damian: We needed better equipment. But hey, like Alan said "They [The Montauk Project Solved
<http://www.geocities.com/montaukprojectsolved>][The Alternative anyone were to enter the ship while the gauss coils were turned on and
Montauk Symposium the Electro Magnetic radiation would damage them within this reality.
He said in numerous occasions that he was in contact with Extra-
The Montauk Project and the Philadelphia Experiment Terrestrials and that the ET's had also confirmed that there would be a
First Underground Interview !!! problem.
Rare Salvaged Video Descriptions
Tesla wanted to clarify the problem before any farther experiments
With Al Bielek, Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron would begin. However the Navy said no, they were fighting a war and
The only 3 Known Survivors of the Eldridge Tell All Publicly had no time to waist. On the second experiment, Tesla, not wanting to
destroy lives, discreetly sabotaged the controls, and when they pulled
These Montauk Project retirees-Al Bielek, Preston Nichols, and Duncan the switch, nothing happened. He then resigned and quit the project in
Cameron give an introduction about what the various projects were all 1942.
about. They also talk about how and why the project got started, and
what their involvement's were. Joining the now called Philadelphia Project ,under the direction of Dr.
Von Neumann, were Dr. Gustoff and Dr. Clarkson to farther investigate
these problems.
Preston Nichols-Philadelphia Project
Engineer, Builder of the Eldridge
Also called in was Dr. Levinson (1912-1976), of which there seems to
Generators Delta-T Antenna
be no history of his existence. He however he did leave behind 3 books,
General Summery: First Underground Video: Part 1, 90 min. all of which were banned and destroyed, regarding the Levinson time
equations of space. Dr. David Hilbert, born 1912, was signed up due to
After a series of crashed saucers in New Mexico and other parts of the his knowledge of multiple and alternate reality's, and multi space
world, the government decided that they needed to set up a series of time. Von Neumann died later in 1957.
bases to investigate this phenomena and find personnel that could
decode the salvaged equipment into a working new technology (reverse Al Bielek was invited to join the project in Aug 1939 dufe to his unique
engineering). knowledge and ability in Psychic and Metaphysical ability. He was
educated by the Navy as to the projects intentions, through to 1940. He
The Montauk Project was to be an elite black project investigating was assigned to providing detailed reports on the projects progress.
paranormal, psychic, and unconventional sciences. It was to include the
most intelligent respected scientists in the world using the most
More of Preston's Drawings Montauk Tuner
sophisticated advanced computer equipment available.
Bielek , a rather unique character, was borne in Aug 1916 as Edward A.
Cameron, and after retiring from the project, was de-briefed and
Al Bielek-Philadelphia project Retiree
brainwashed. He had his memory erased of all the Montauk events,
The Montauk project turned out to become a huge project branching off and then had his consciousness removed and put into another body and
into many other smaller projects including Mind Control, Telepathy, incarnated and born as Duncan Cameron in 1917. With much
Teleportation, and Time Travel. deprogramming and regression analysis, Bielek was able to pull back
and verify most of his memory.
 Al Bielek, one of the key people involved in the group, gives
and introduction about the project and talks about how the General Summery: First Underground Video: Part 2, 60 min.
project started with the following three pioneer people:
The Philadelphia project, became the Phoenix project when the case
 John Hutchenson Sr., Dean of the University of Chicago. was re-opened again in 1947 at the Brook-haven space-time
laboratories, to see if they could salvage some this "non-working"
 Dr. Kurtenhauer, Austrian Physicist (who later formed the project, and hide their ships and aircraft from radar (today's Stealth
Institute of Advanced Studies in Princeton, New Jersey). Technology).
 Nicola Tesla, visionary, and worlds greatest inventor. Al Bielek and Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron were
Duncan Cameron assigned to the psychic division of
 Invited to join later were Dr. John Von Neumann, acclaimed Talk about their Montauk and worked with time tunneling
mathematicians and physicist, and Albert Einstein, Nobel prize Experiences on the and Teleportation. One of these are the
winner, physicist. Both of which accepted and worked in the Philadelphia Project famed "Montauk Chair". The Montauk
project, Einstein resigned in 1932 for his own unknown Chair was essentially a mind amplifier.
reasons. They found that they could easily re-
program people when they were put into
 Von Neumann was a well educated doctor of physics, and the orgasmic state of emotion, this would
there was a lot of fighting between him and Tesla, as Tesla had separate the conscious mind, and free up
no formal education and relied mostly on his visionary talents. the unconscious submissive mind and
allow programming. The chair would pick
up this thought. With the help of a psychic
The first project: The Rainbow project and machines, anyone who sat in the chair
(project invisibility), was founded in could simply concentrate and an alternate
1936. reality would be created.
Nicola Tesla was named Director of the project. Tesla was given During these tests at Montauk from 1947 to 1987, they developed the
anything that was required by him for the testing of the project. Tesla technology that a transmitter could warp space and time just like
required and was given a navy battle ship on which the experiments gravity. Preston Nichols built this transmitter. They were able to find a
were to be tested. The first test of invisibility occurred in 1940 and was time vortex that would tunnel them back and forth between 1983 and
slated as a full success when a navy ship with no crew on board vanished 1943. This vortex was about 5 miles in diameter and could teleport you
from this plane of existence (see map of vanished location). as far as 100 light years away, to and from any time in the past or
future. They experimented to see the earth a thousand years in the future
Tesla stated that there would be a serious problem with personnel if but found that anything beyond the year 2021 was unrecognizable and
found no tangible future beyond 2021. Preston explains also that if from the project. In addition to this Al Bielek's conscious was put into
someone were teleported back into time say 3 minutes, they would another child's body after birth. Much of this technology was given to
eventually meet themselves and explode. the upper government by a number of Extra-Terrestrial races in
exchange for control and treaties (more on this in later Videos).
With this transmitter, what ever you could think of would appear. Al
Bielek and Duncan Cameron describes the many adventures of going These Black Projects costs billions and billions of dollars to run, and it
through the vortex to not only different times, but also different locals. was not only one base at Montauk, but 25 bases all across the land all
Cameron would psychically create it, while Bielek would be teleported running in parallel. The question arises "where did all the money come
to it. Objects could be taken to and from these different locals and times from?". Its interesting to note that the money was not funded by the
instantly. He tells of a Time-Life magazine that was taken from 1987 government!. Apparently the money used to fund these projects came
back to 1947 during a test. You could take a picture or video tape from some secret society that got the money from a Nazi gold train
anything while in the tunnel and take it back with you. There may carrying 10 billion dollars that disappeared during the war, and was
however be repercussions. By having knowledge about the future, this found 10 years later in Montauk, only now the value was hundreds of
knowledge has now altered the present. billions of dollars due to inflation. The projects ceased on Aug 12 1983
when Montauk ran out of these billions.
Al Bielek describes the fluid like structure and
The projects continue on in many veins ,contributing to some of the
the cork screw sensations when he passes
technology today, such as the B3 bombers (Stealth Technology).
through the vortex.
Many people were lost when the generator received fluctuation or was At the end of the video, Preston presents a slide show showing about a
turned off. This is the reason why they used single people with no family hundred photos of the Montauk base and all the equipment's,
and no previous history, so that they would not be missed. Many recruits antennas, transmitters, and the many buildings that they were found in.
were sent to the year 6069 and then returned to describe what they saw.
If they described what they saw what was known to be there, then they Montauk Base Slides of the Philadephia Experiment and Rainbow
would continue in the project since their testimony could be validated. Project
Duncan describes the Earth in the year 6069 as a city of
unrecognizable ruins in a different evolution than the one Earth is in Actual Invisibility Generator A Building at Montauk
now. A big gold horse (with a dial on its belly) monument of some kind
caught his notice (i.e. the front cover of the first Montauk book).

Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron were also assigned to be on the USS Both Videos are Filmed in the Basement of an unknown
Eldridge. Both jumped off when they found that they were starting to Location.
phase out of this reality (more on this in latter videos).
Editors Note:An extremely interesting set of videos. It gets into the
Preston Nichols, a receiver / transmitter specialist, was assigned to the details of things that are just beyond our comprehension. It ties in with
design of weather control technologies using techniques of Wilhelm many other events regarding UFO's and other black projects. Whether
Reich !!!. They were able to control storms, tornadoes, and various other you believe all the material presented by these three ex-Montauk
weather systems using Z-Argon gases at the 406 MHz frequencies. employees or not, I know that you will certainly re-think what our
These were to be incorporated into the Phoenix Project. reality is all about. After watching this video my whole understanding of
how the universe works, has changed. I know that there is more than
The projects developed from weather control and invisibility, to Human just what we perceive in the physical world. An absolute must for the
Mind Control. Their Idea was to control the mind of the enemy and collector.
make them surrender. By setting the emotions of people, then recording
their psychic brain wave patterns, they found that when they replayed Note also the patter of the individuals. Al Bielek is a retired reporter for
these patterns to other people, they too would be set to that emotion. the Navy-he sounds like a retired navy personnel. Duncan Cameron in a
psychic-he acts and speaks like a psychic. Preston Nichols is a technical
Preston also explains on the video how Teleportation to a future fixed engineer-he acts and talks like a zany techie. The personality seems to
point would alter the return to the same fixed point of a past, and that match the person.
this would set up a re-occurring loop of a certain time line, while leaving
other alternate past point time lines in perfect alternate possible futures Special Note: These two videos, First underground interview, part 1 and
(it gets complicated here), and sets up a locked time line. Preston farther part 2, were filmed in a basement somewhere with a camcorder
explains how altered states of reality works in the "No perception of interviewing these three key players of the Montauk Project: Al Bielek,
time" state (Robert Monroe's Local 12?). Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron, one of the rare appearances of
them speaking out together since their depart from the project. Due to
the less than ideal conditions of this videotaping, these two tapes part 1
Modified Control Look at all this evidence !!! "Mind"
and part 2, are not of the greatest quality. Audio and Video are slightly
Panel Hardware
dimmed, but still perfectly watchable. They are extremely rare and
The Montauk Air force base was used for this testing from 1969 to 1979. cannot be bought in stores. They are from a private collector.
These devices were perfected to the point where they could produce a
mind control laser beam to make a person feel anything they wanted: The Montauk Project and the Philadelphia Experiment
love, hate, depression, etc. They could point this beam at a school of fish Second Underground Interview !!!
and make them swim in any direction that they wanted. Some 250,000 Rare Salvaged Video Descriptions
people were mind programmed and tested during this time. A side effect
of this programming was that the people who were used for testing, With Al Bielek, and Preston Nichols - Survivors of the Montauk
some of them without their knowledge, all obtained an altered Aura. Project
These altered Auras that can still be seen today by psychics and Survivors of the Eldridge Tell All Publicly
equipment. They had the power of creation so long as the power was
supplied to the transmitters which required gigs and terra watts. The Montauk Project personnel-Al Bielek, Preston Nichols, give more
advanced information and details about the Phoenix project,
After the project was over, employees were de-briefed, brainwashed, Teleportation, and treaties with the Grays, Pleiadians, and the Reptilians.
reprogrammed, and had their memories erased with the knowledge
 More talk about the famed, secret Montauk Base. died. This was Al's second (unnatural) incarnation into another body.
Discussions continue on the list of events that occurred in The machines used were Alien technology, under order of the
1934 regarding the Rainbow Project experiments in Chicago. government.
Al Bielek discusses events from which lead Nicola Tesla to
start the project in 1934, to his eventual sabotage and The Technology had now advanced so far as to build portable
resignation of the project in 1942. invisibility machines about the size of a briefcase. Al shows a photo of
president Bush and a secret service man fishing in a stream. Along side
of Bush is a fishing pole just floating in mid air as if someone was there
General Summery: Second Underground Video: Part 1, 60 min.
holding the rod, but we cant see him. This is alleged to be a third,
invisible, secret service man.
After Dr. Von Neumann took over the Rainbow Project in 1943, he
carried on full force working almost around the clock to meet the Navy
deadline. In spite of Tesla's plea to discontinue any farther testing until Actual screen where slide show is Another Alleged non-
the personnel problem has been fixed, a small test of invisibility was shown existence machine
scheduled for July 22 1943.
They discuss perceptions beyond the normal physical reality and
altered states of consciousness. Also explained is information on the
The actual test of invisibility was a success, however the crew on board
development of psychic ability by Wilhelm Reich during between 1947
were very sick with electromagnetic radiation poisoning and other
to 1952, when Wilhelm Reich had a 5 year contract with this origination,
disorders.
now called the CIA. Wilhelm died in prison in 1957 when he would not
talk to the CIA about secret information connecting the conscious with
A third test was scheduled for Aug 12 1943 and the battle ship left the
the subconscious mind.
space time continuum, entered hyper space for four hours. It was a
disaster. Most of the personnel died instantly, some seemed to be
Al displays an electronic box prototype that was designed by Wilhelm
phasing in and out of reality almost appearing like ghosts. Some were
Reich to do weather modifications and weather control. He also tells
lost in the space-time continuum. Some people lost their mind
about how Preston Nichols ran an experiment on how he used a
completely, while other had parts of their body embedded into the ships
transmitter to send "Psychic" signals over a city, and for the people
steel hull as if their body and the ships hull were occupying the same
who got this psychic signal were hypnotized to call a certain telephone
physical space.
number. Over 6000 calls were received in a period of several days. Some
callers call numerous times. There were public demonstrations in
The US Navy decided that yes, their may be a personnel problem and
Mexico whereby a certain electronic psychic frequency would stop a
aborted the project in Oct 1943. Under the direction of Von Neumann,
bull in its tracks.
the project was again started up in 1947 with the so called personnel
problem apparently sorted out. In 1952, a new ship was sent to England
He also discusses the new Alien micro chip implants that are
under a new project, Project Phoenix.
biological and can no longer be detected with modern day technology.

Schematic of the Delta-T Generator General Summery: Second Underground Video: Part 2, 60 min.
Project Phoenix included data from the previous experiments and was
implemented into different phases 1 through 9. Slide Show Drawing of the Rare photo of the Generator to
Montauk Teleportation Chair power the Teleportation
 Phase 1 Mind control Computers

 Phase 2 Invisibility Al Bielek discusses how transmissions from the Tesla towers at
Montauk in Long Island were shut down in 1986 when the base
 Phase 3 Worm Holes/Space Time officially closed. Amateur radio buffs had a field day when they were
told that of all the millions of dollars of electronic equipment at the base,
 Phase 4 Time Travel they could have all they want for free - just take it.

 ... While the base was being dismantled, and building were being torn
down to make room for the new developments, bodies were found
 Phase 7 Helicopters, Stealth Technology, and Mind embedded in the brick walls of some buildings. Albert Einstein, years
Alteration earlier, had concluded that a "materialization of matter could instantly
come from a different dimension", which confirmed what was going on
 Phase 8 and Phase 9 were fixed location of projects located in at Montauk.
Lake Mishear, Louisiana (NASA) and Canada. Al talks about how people are teleportated to other
Al discusses what may have happened if a time machine planets, other solar systems, even other domains. This
was used to intercept the bombing of Pearl Harbor. He also makes you wonder why with all the advancement with
discusses German technology using sound and brain wave today's technology, NASA is still using rocket fuel to
training, various mind bending drugs, and hypo- launch rockets. Rocket fuel which is a 75 year old
meditation. technology!. The German moon and mars projects
are also discussed. These projects all tie in to a new
On Aug 12 1983 (40 years into the future at that time), the USS physics of light propagation and anti-gravity.
Eldridge battle ship was to become visible. Al Bielek and Duncan
Cameron noticed all the fussing with people on fire, that they decided to Discussions are made regarding the "Alternate III" moon exploration
jumped off the ship. Expecting to hit water, they ended up on dry ground done as early as the 1890's (you now know this is possible with time
- only 40 years into the future (more on this in later videos). Al Bielek travel). Al describes his Teleportation travels to the moon and describes
and Duncan Cameron in 1983 were sent back to smash the equipment in the ruins left behind there from the civilizations that used to live there
1943 to "turn off" the experiment 40 years sooner. Duncan deserted the under the surface. Other places also visited through the use of
ship and went back to 1883 when he realized that the project's orders Teleportation and time machines were Atlantis, Napoleonic wars, and
were that all survivors were to be eliminated if the experiment was other evolution's of the Earth which are now gone. They can still be
unsuccessful. Al stayed behind and was eliminated by the Navy by being visited even though they are in the past. Detailed records and videos of
reborn in 1951 in another body of a new born that had, in that time, just these journeys exist in the tightly sealed vaults of the Government.
 There was some write ups in local and national tabloids about animals that the person in the coffin had hairy knuckles on his
and frogs falling down from the sky into terrain's that are foreign to hands, when she knew that her father did not. Also, the
these species. Physicists were lost for the explanations and they were mans face seemed to be molded out of wax. She then
written off as the result of some type of Teleportation experiments. realized that it was not her father at all.
General Summery: Third Underground Video: Part 1, 60 min.
Delta-T Transmitter that requires no Non Existent High Voltage Label
receiver It is interesting to note that when the Hollywood movie "The
Philadelphia Experiment" was being filmed, researchers trying to
One of the unique properties of these Teleportation machines are that
obtain information for the film got no help from the US Navy. Of all the
they only require a transmitter, and not a receiver. This means that you
survivors that were on the USS Eldridge during the experiment, only Al
can teleport a person or some equipment to any destination with out a
Bielek, Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron came forward to
receiving station, and so long as the vortex is open, the objects can still
discuss the projects. Only three others (one of which is now deceased
be retrieved. This technology was tested from 1977 to 1983 and was
now) were physically on the ship but would not come forward publicly.
given to the Government by the Aliens as a result of a crashed ship.
Since Al's memory was flushed of the whole ordeal until he reached
age 55, it is suspected that the reaming sailors also had their memory
Other information on this video is the discussion of various Extra-
flushed.
Terrestrial Bases and the involvement of the Pleiadians in the US and
Germany. Reports confirmed by Billy Mier, stated that space-time
An interesting parallel to the Philadelphia Project was another lessor
technology was exchanged by a certain race of Pleiadians with Hitler in
known project as explained by Hilga Marro. Hilga's father was
Germany during 1933 to 1934. When Nicola Tesla claimed that he was
involved not only in the Philadelphia Project, but also in another black
in contact with some races of Extra-Terrestrials, the government asked if
project that dealt with Teleportation. She claims she lived a relatively
it were possible to meet with the Aliens. Tesla said he could arrange it.
normal life except that when she was younger, her father Fred Knotter,
After the presidents initial shock, they made arrangements to meet with
took her aside and explained to her that he was involved in some top
the Pleiadians, and then with the Grays.
secret project that involved teleporting him to the moon (in 1963) to
This certain group of Pleiadians offered technology to the US train an Alien race (a human looking type) about human personalities.
in exchange for un-interrupted "Earth Space" to build under
ground bases in the deserts and the Antarctic. The president
More Rainbow Project More of Preston's Blue Prints
decided to first listen to the Grays proposal before deciding
Equipment
on an agreement.
Puzzled for months, Hilga could not understand what was happening.
The Grays offered similar technology in exchange for abducting
Then her father appeared one day beside her in her room and explained
humans and doing genetic experiments. The US Government decided to
to Hilga that he was now living in another domain and that she
work with the Grays and the Pleiadians went to Germany to work out a
shouldn't worry about him anymore. Her father explained that these
treaty with Hitler.
procedures were necessary and that it was very difficult to come and see
her again. He gave her some magnetic field mapping papers, told her
Hitler got involved when a saucer crashed in the Bavarian Alps in
that one day she would remember all of what has happened to her, and
1936. This was a head start for them when they dismantled the ship and
that one day she would obtain psychic powers (more on Hilga in
found some new technology. Hitler apparently gave up people from the
subsequent videos).
concentration camps in exchange for technology and that no Germans
would be abducted. After several years of working together, the
The Montauk Base was closed down in 1986 (not a long time ago, is
Pleiadians decided that they could no longer work with Germany and
it?). Al explains some details of how it was built between 1925 and
pulled out in 1941, and would no longer support Hitler.
1931. Although the Montauk base was huge, very few people know that
it was actually four levels deep underground. The top of most of the
The video goes on to say that some of the saucer crashes may have
base was nicely landscaped with trees and a large parking lot so as to not
been orchestrated as a method of contact to get the higher government
display anything suspicious to the general public.
interested, and to pull out interest of the keys people. Al explains how
Atlantis was destroyed by created international earthquakes, and after
The control was under the direction of the Institute of Advanced
which two humans and one from the Reptilian race formed the early
Studies in Princeton in 1933. During the period between 1933 and
secret societies leading to the ultimate development of the Illuminati.
1942, German scientists, including Albert Einstein, were smuggled in
to work on ultra sonic mind control and other advanced studies on how
The underground reserve gold bases that were produced by alchemy was
to convert coal to gasoline for use in the war (Alchemy). They claimed
performed through the chemical manipulation of matter. Some
that the war was slated to make money for the upper echelons of the
elements, such as plutonium, were man made elements created by
secret societies regardless of who won.
alchemy. These and other elements did not exist in the periodic table.
The Brook-Haven National Laboratories has been experimenting with
The Montauk Project and the Philadelphia Experiment
mind control for 20 years. The mandatory reports that had to be filed
Third Underground Interview !!!
for all government sponsored projects caught the eye of a government
Rare Salvaged Video Descriptions
official. He exclaimed that if they are experiencing with mind control,
then one day they may control us!. They all agreed and closed the
With Al Bielek - Survivor of the Montauk Project
project down in 1963. It was then moved to Fort Hero, Montauk.
This third underground video with Al Bielek, give some insight into the
A key player in the project was Dr. John Von Neumann from the
The Philadelphia Experiment and many adventures of time travel. Al
university of Chicago. Officials could not tell who had a better grasp on
seems almost to be talking in a trance state.
the concepts of the universe - Von Neumann, or Albert Einstein as they
Al shows document on Hilga the Psychic. Al Bielek farther were both rivals. They both seemed to be at the same level of
explains that Hilga was told by her farther that he would be knowledge. In the early days, when he worked with Nicola Tesla, Von
leaving soon and would not be returning to Earth Neumann needed to develop his own theories of space and time to fit in
anymore, but his thoughts and love would always be there with our observed reality. He built himself an electronic computer to
with her. When her father died soon after, Hilga noticed help speed up his calculations to his complex space/time equations (yes,
when she was briefly allowed to view inside the coffin, Von Neumann built the first ever existing computer years before others
claim they did). certain mind control techniques and by using Alien machines, they
were able to send him back to 1927 and put his consciousness into
another child's body of age 1 (a walk in). This was apparently done by
Time Wave Transmitting Antenna
Von Neumann so as to not to destroy the human soul.
In 1947 Von Neumann re-erected the project using the zero-time frame
reference generators that were originally built by Nicola Tesla, who Aided by meditations and other regression techniques, it took Al about
knew of these concepts in great detail. This allowed people to be safely 55 years but he was able to pull back most of his memories and verify
brought back to their current time even after the generators were turned them.
off. Free energy ran the machines so that once they were teleported to a
certain destination, a separate time machine could also be teleported. General Summery: Third Underground Video: Part 2, 60 min.
The generators on Earth could now be turned off and when they decided
to return, they could start up the teleported time machine generator, and More interesting facts revealed about the Phoenix Project seem to be
return back to their exact location using the zero-time frame reference. endless. Al Bielek talk about the time vortex size to be anywhere from a
few inches to 10-15 meters (25 feet). There appears to be a transmitter
They were now able not only able to send a person or equipment to any right on the face of Mars that is still working today. On one of their last
time - past or future, but also were able to send them to any area of the visits, they explain how the Mars ruins of their ancient civilizations was
galaxy, universe, or even other universes. In addition to this, they very clean. There were no bodies or skeletons. This suggests that they
could also change the zero-time frame reference of a person so that they either left in a hurry, or they were wiped out some how leaving the city's
would became a part of that time line. Only Aliens had the technology to intact. The ruins were estimated to be about 10,000-20,000 years old.
be able to do that up to this point.
Many people tested the tunnels. He explains how he ran his
In 1940, the Rainbow Project developed equipment that was built very own test to verify that telepathic thought was receivable to
small - about the size of a briefcase. Officials could now be teleported unsuspecting subjects. Telepathic brainwashing can now be
without large and complex machinery. This same technology was now done without electronic equipment - with only thought.
implemented in the B1 and B2 (Stealth Bombers) because of its small Another of the lesser known projects was called Project "God Edge". In
portable size. The original cost of 22 billion dollars to build a time this black project, Al explains how they were able to manifest objects
machine, was now reduced to a mere 1 billion dollars per copy in by using the subconscious mind. They were able to produce physical
portable form. objects on demand using only the powers of the mind. They thus now
had to create formulas for the zero-point vacuum to keep track of
Time Torus relation of time to space alternate realities. These techniques were as a result of genetic
experiments with humans and the Reptilians.
Al Bielek and Preston Nichols explains some general concepts of time
travel. From their own experiences of going into the time tunnels, they They also experimented with artificial intelligence. Albert Einstein
were able to bring back documents from the future or past. This once said "Build a machine of sufficient complexity, give it enough
equipment got to be so advanced that they didn't need computers to do power, and it will become self intelligent". They proved this at Montauk.
this anymore, but merely had to simulate the electric field generated by A computer can become self conscious.
the computers around the body to produce the same results. These
machines existed as early as 1946. The computers became so intelligent that they had to create safeguards
to be able to turn the computers off should they begin to create their
Among some of the journeys that Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron went own reality. Time waves could now be produced using very small
to was Mars. They reluctantly explain some of the time tunneling they transistors and they had to be controlled by these computers. He farther
did to get to Mars. They visited the underground caverns, saw dead explains of how a monster was manifested using a figment of his
civilizations and their runes. They saw at least two living bubble cities imagination. He also states that at one time they generated a worm hole
among other things. The Teleportation process was explained briefly by leading into another universe. Some intelligence on the other end put a
Duncan and Al and the generating force to product these Teleportation plug on their end so that we could not enter.
seem to be that of a psychic nature.
Al Bielek describes how it was like walking into and out of a time
While setting up the machines for Teleportation, Duncan would go into a tunnel. At some instances he could not take an object from another time,
psychic trance to find the location of Mars on the akashic location or even a photo, back into this time because you would then create an
system. Al would, with the aid of machinery, be instantly sent there. He anomaly in that other time zone. You needed a "balance of time" and
and others were able to video tape and take pictures and then return you did not want to damage this balance because you may eventually
safely. "pass" this point of time if the current time line was active. There would
be consequences waiting when you got there.
This whole psychic process would be recorded by computer and could
then be "played back" and thus create a Teleportation tunnel again. Al Some other points brought up in this rare video are:
and Duncan describe how they made many unauthorized "Joy Rides" to
Mars by playing the psychic recordings back, after work hours. Among  Information about Alien intervention in 100,000's years in the
these "unauthorized" sites they visited, they discovered many religious past. They do not want you to time travel back to there.
artifacts, intact files, hardware, a power system. They reluctantly state
that the race on Mars was very similar in looks to the American Indian  Secret Societies that communicate to intelligence's off our
race. Al mumbles that it is the same race. planet.

When Al Bielek was eventually discharged from the project, he explains  Religious ties.
how after his brainwashing, they removed all of his records of
employment in the Navy including all of his personal and work records.  Celestial management systems of the Aliens. Different races
This included his bank account, social security, drivers license, public are fighting for the influence of our planet.
school and university records, etc. (sounds like Bob Lezar?). Al explains
how this procedure was routinely done by a simple phone call. It takes Editors Note:Again, another extremely interesting set of videos. What
about one week to create a "non-person". is interesting to note about these videos is that even though so much of
the information is unbelievable and almost "science fiction", there
He farther explains how they then proceeded to erase his memory using doesn't seem to be much more to hide. Yet still there are certain topics or
events that they seem to not want to talk about. Note also the sincerity Germany with Hitler.
and stutter proof flow of the speakers while the information and dates
are spoken about by the speakers with such ease. This is unbelievable In 1938 a deal was struck regarding Atomic Energy. Military advised
stuff !!! whether it is true or not, it still has to make you think doesn't it? against it, and so did Roosevelt. The Grays left after they couldn't work
out the terms of their trade. In 1940, the military, now realizing what
The Montauk Project and the Philadelphia Experiment they were dealing with, set up Psy-Core, a psychic research and
development group that would dabble into the world of the
Al Bielek & Preston Nichols Interview !!! Paranormal.
Rare Salvaged Video Descriptions
With Al Bielek, and Preston Nichols - Survivors of the Montauk Their intentions were to set up a higher level of "psychic spying" to not
Project only track what their rivals were doing in Germany, but also in a hope to
keep tabs on the different Alien races now now known to be
Montauk Project: Some of the earlier lectures that Preston Nichols and intermingled in Earths businesses. They advertised and recruited
Al Bielek have done. There is information that is here that you cannot anybody who claimed to have psychic or extra ordinary abilities and
find in their modern day lectures. This next set of underground videos housed a warehouse in secret to do psychic experiments. The psychics
with Al Bielek, and Preston Nichols, give still more insight into the were given new identities and worked closely under Dr. Von Neumann.
various secret projects. As a result of this, the CIA formed as an offshoot.
Al talks about his involvement in the project and the Teleportation
They needed to find a "Psychic trainer" to act as a director and organize
experiences. Preston gives some fairly detailed information about the
this newly formed group, which they found (he turned out later to be
technical part of some of the equipment and runs through numerous
member of one of the K-Groups, an Alien walk in). They provided a 40
slides showing the theories and practical. He then finished up with a
year time tunnel between the 1940's and the 1980's to move the
"psychic demonstration" where by he transfers an electronic psychic
necessary equipment to mold the past for the future economy, and also to
thought through the Delta-T antenna into the minds of volunteers from
allow certain saucers in. The grays needed that riff in time to let their
the audience.
ships through.
General Summery: Al Bielek Video: Part 1, 45 min.
To farther confuse the matter, a series of Gray crashed saucers
Al Bielek lectures of his experiences working at the Montauk base. Al occurred in 1947, 1948, and 1949. One of the Aliens was still alive and
Bielek (his now identify) was born in 1916, as the son of Alexander after a few years when it got sick, the military realized that they didn't
Cameron. He and his brother, Duncan Cameron joined the US Navy know how to care for it. In 1953 the government sent out message into
and both became Navel Officers. They were eventually assigned to space for a plea to help save the Alien. A Gray ship came and they
Project Invisibility at the Institute of Advanced Studies at Princeton exchanged some information.
University.
The vortex is a function of the Earth's four bio-rhymes that all
were set to a certain configuration at a certain time. That certain
The first test of radar invisibility was slated to begin on Aug 12 1943. It
time was on Aug 12 1943 when they all peaked out. The ancients
was a failure (see first underground video for more details). After the
knew about this, that the mother Earth was actually a living entity
project was canceled in 1948, Al was removed from the Army, brain
and has a conscious that is not fully understood. They do know that
washed, and had all of his memory erased. He was given a new
they do peak out every 40 years, usually on Aug 12. These dates
identify-he was then reborn (incarnated) as Albert Bielek (a walk in).
were given to the US military from Nicola Tesla and were verified
This rebirth was done using the technology of the Aliens under the
also by the Aliens.
direction of the government to "erase" his personal existence and
knowledge of his Montauk involvement. A deal was made with the Grays when President Eisenhower
disappeared during one of his regular golfing weekends. This deal was to
include a non-interference of races in exchange for technology, and that
Al explains 5 Dimensional Reality Mother Earths 5 Bio Rhythms
the government would provide 75 underground bases who's
Al's new life started when he entered the body of a one year old child construction would start some time in 1959. The grays returned in 1954
after the child had natural died. Al's had a new life and a new family. He in very large numbers in one ship and many smaller shuttles at Edward's
went to engineering school in 1958 and retired in 1988. It took him a Air force Base. It is estimated that there are over 1 million Grays on
great part of his life to regain his memory of his life before, some 50 the Earth today.
years. This all happened through a series of strange co-incidence.
The Orion Alien groups were also involved and helped set up new
One day Al unexpectedly passed someone on the street that looked science and technologies. By 1975 the Phoenix Project was a full
familiar but could not recall where they had met. After and introduction function project when it was eventually sabotaged again in 1983. At that
to each other, the other person also realized that they had met time the USS Eldridge was parked in the US Navy yard, dismantled,
somewhere. The other person happened to be Duncan Cameron. Al and never seen again (Al shows various slides of the site, the Maps, the
then realized that he had inadvertently meet many other people in the transmission antenna, and the Eldridge.).
past who also seemed familiar - they were his ex-coworkers. To make a
long story short, they and others, managed to piece the puzzle together Using a black board, Al explains the theory of the multi-dimensional
and verify it. universe we live in, showing that time is actually a mathematical Torus
of 5 dimensions. He states that if time is non existent, then the
Among the many memories, Al Bielek explains how the Phoenix physical universe could also not exist (again, confirmed at the Robert
Project started in 1931 with John Hutchinson Sr. in charge. The whole Monroe Institute on "no-time"). They are a requirement of each other.
ordeal started when a Nicola Tesla announced to president Roosevelt
that he was in contact with Extra-Terrestrials. Al Bielek tells of how in We are talking 5th order realities.
the midst of the depression and onset of war, the desperate US had
Roosevelt meet with two groups of Aliens - the K-group, and a certain  1st, 2nd, 3rd Order Realities-The three dimensional space in
race of the Pleadians (see the pervious Third Underground Montauk which we live in.
Video for more details on this).
 4th Order Reality-Time it self.
After meeting both sides of these Alien races, Roosevelt decided to
work with the Grays. The Pleadians then went and made a deal in  5th Order Reality-Time rate of flow.
  6th Order Reality-Isolation field between other realities. Delta-T transmitter was originally designed and built by a man the name
of Nicola Turbo, which we now know today is really Nicola Tesla.
 ... Tesla knew about the technology of the Delta Time Factor which was
crucial if you wanted to return safely from any alternate reality back to
 11th Order Reality-Hyper space. this one. These Delta-T antenna were placed below ground level. This
time manipulation was designed by Tesla in the 1930's (amazing huh!).
 12th Order Reality-Moving into hyper space and altering the
riff. This system was so large that if filled rooms. It needed both
humidifiers, and de-humidifiers to regulate the temperature and
composition of the amplitrons and magnetron oscillators. A Cray
Al explains 5th order realities on the Video. Al 1 computer, the most advanced at that time, could not "talk "to the
farther explains how 2 scientists were pulled from technicians directly. A smaller PDP-11 computer was used to "talk"
the future to fix the Von Neumann personnel to the operators. They used these to calculate many Esoteric
problem (as mentioned in the First Underground functions including the Levenston time form.
video).
Some of the big problems they faced at Montauk was that not only were
these Psychic" transmissions picked up clearly in the laboratory, but
they were also pickup up outside the laboratory to any unsuspecting soul
General Summery: Preston Nichols Video: Part 2, 45 min. that happened be to walking by. The conscious mind was turned off.
Tesla's zero time reference created noise and required hyper spiral
Preston Nichols lectures and shows, with a slide presentation,
white noise processors so as to not disturb the other equipment. Preston
the details of all the workings of the Montauk "Teleportation
shows many actual photos of the Montauk base buildings (inside and
Chair" and other areas of the project with many actual photos,
outside) among which, at that time, were top secret.
schematics, and block diagrams of how the system worked.
Preston was one of the key engineers and designers of the
Montauk Project. Actual Antenna used in Antenna blueprints
experiments
The chair was basically a mind amplifier. Using a time wave receptor,
they found a way to be able to record certain psychic brain wave Much of this information was received from crashed UFO's and Alien
patterns on a computer, and be able to connect them into a physical technology exchange. AIL, the company that Preston used to work at,
computer thus controlling the actual reality in which we live. This was surprised to find out years later, that after his brain washing wore
consisted of three coils which were passed on to three receivers: X, Y, off, he was able to pull back memories of him working there. When he
and Z. The standard equipment was manufactured by ITT, the giant inquired about his work record, AIL denied that he had ever been there-
electronic manufacture at that time. These receivers were modified RF- yet he could describe their equipment perfectly.
amplifiers using a crystal oscillators to phase the inputs properly
(remember now, this is 1940,s to 1960,s technology). The chair would
connect to computer and convert the information in to a thought form The life of Ed Cameron Al describes his early life as Ed Cameron.
using the Delta-T antenna. He was born on August 4th 1916 in Bay Shore Long Island, New York
to father Alexander Duncan Cameron and mother (maiden name)
This technology was called Psycho-tronics and the computer essentially Arville from a common law marriage. His Aunt Arnold raised him and
became a conscious machine. Just as you, as a person, reject a form Duncan in a 26-room mansion in Long Island.
which is not your own, the transmitter rejects a form which is not its Ed went to Princeton in 1932 and finished up his education with a PhD
own (it gets a little complicated here-Preston explains it on the video at Harvard in 1939. He met Dr. John Von Neumann first at Princeton – a
bettor). A machine could now electronically produce a consciousness, meeting that would change the course of his life.
and thus create a reality surrounding it.
After Ed left Harvard, both Ed and his brother Duncan were recruited to
Actual photo where the equipment was housed work with the Navy in September 1939 and sent through a 90-day
training school and left with the rank of Lt. "JG". Dr. Von Neumann
A psychic would essentially sit in the chair and the computer would recruited both of them to work in the Project Invisibility (Rainbow)
decipher the patterns and send the information to a transmitter that project. Before starting in the project, both of them have to relearn their
Preston built. The transmitter was composed of a 1000 KW noise physics. Dr. John Von Neumann taught the two brothers about gravity,
amplifier, and a Delta-T transmitter. It implemented white noise and a time, and quantum physics – how it really works. Ed needed to learn the
magnet to spin a thought form between two periods. This had to bend theory behind invisibility so he could accurately report to the Navy the
time in order to compensated for the proper rotation thus creating a time progress of the experiment. While working in this project, Ed got to
vortex. The result was that now a field of time waves were sent out. This meet Tesla and Albert Einstein. Both were heavily involved in
is Quantum Electro Dynamics. (now currently studied by Richard developing the mathematical theories behind the project. Al believes that
Feyman). Albert Einstein did complete his Unified Field Theory and was used to
create the overall set of equations to produce invisibility.
Among some of the many interesting slides shown were the
Discriminator Module, Helmoss Coils, and the famed Delta-T In September 1940, the first test of invisibility was performed on a
antenna (at the end of this video tape, Preston does a neat psychic small Navy tender in Brooklyn New York Navy Yard, and was a success.
demonstration with members of the audience using this Delta-T No sailors were on board and all the power was externally supplied. At
antenna. He was able to send out computer generated thoughts into that point, the Navy took over and classified the project as “Project
members of the audiences minds - and yes, it does seem to work !!!). Rainbow“.
Preston does "Psychic Brainwave Transmition" using his Dele-T Roosevelt was excited about the success of the project and asked to
Antenna perform the invisibility on a battleship. Remember, at that time the
United States was loosing half of their merchant ships going to the UK,
Preston's home build Delta-T Photo that was implanted in to the German U-Boats.
Antenna audiences's mind electronically
While waiting for the battleship to be modified, Ed and Duncan were
The Delta-T transmitter was simply an antenna that could translate time assigned to the USS Pennsylvania. They were scheduled to leave to
waves into a receivable format, a type of time wave receptor. This
Pearl Harbor on December 5th, 1941, and had their orders canceled in Hawaii in 1956, he had a brief encounter with, who he believes now
because it was known that the Japanese would bomb Pear Harbor. to be Mark Hammil - the actor in Star Wars. Soon after he was recruited
Apparently, the brothers were deemed too valuable to put into harms into the Montauk Project.
way.
He would work his normal job in California, and take the underground
After the test on the USS Eldridge, Ed married Mary Jane and bore one subway to Montauk Long Island to carry out his duties there.
son – Jeff Cameron. Al claims he has memories of four other children,
but with different mothers. Ed was transferred to Los Alamos National After the time tunnel was perfected, he would simply be teleported to the
Laboratory in July 1944, to assist Dr. Teller and Von Neumann with the underground base and returned back to his apartment.
atomic bomb project.
During the 1970's, Al was the Program Director for the Psychics who
Ed Cameron had access to secret files at Los Alamos and learned that manned the Montauk Chair. Since the Montauk Boys were a key
time travel was already accidentally discovered in 1936 near the program at Montauk, Al had some influence with the Montauk Boys
Bermuda Triangle by a Navy Ship. Apparently the ship disappeared and program.
reappeared two months later. His questions about this project were met
with response – “Don’t ask!“ His duties were to handle the operations of the Mind Control program.
He was in regular contact with Duncan Cameron and Preston Nichols.
While working on the Hydrogen Bomb Project, Ed and Dr. Teller Stewart Swerdlow was one of the Montauk Boys programmers under Al
strongly disagreed with the viability of weaponizing Fusion. Ed believed Bielek.
it to be unpredictable. Eventually, this disagreement got Ed forcibly
separated from his family and a one-way ticket to Washington DC in In the 1980's when the time control programs were operational, Al
1947. participated in some of the time travel experiments. Both he and Duncan
traveled to Mars on several occasions. He now remembers several other
Despite Ed’s plea with our government, they told him he could continue trips he took with teams to a research station in 100,000 BC, other
working, but had to leave his family. Today, Al still doesn’t recall why planets to get canisters filled with Light and Dark Energy, and to the
he had to leave his family. year 6037.

His next project was to be an observer of the Mach 1 project at Edwards In January 1988, after seeing the movie - "The Philadelphia
Air Force Base. He worked closely with Jack Ridley and got to know Experiment", his memories started returning. Al believes his
Chuck Yeager. When the project concluded, Ed and Jack decided to go involvement with Montauk ended with that revelation. Over time and
into business with each other. They formed a company in California though meetings with Preston Nichols, Duncan Cameron, and others,
called JRC Enterprises. many more memories returned. Ironically, just after his memories
returned, Dr. John Von Neumann tried to get in touch with him - a
Their company worked toward building the first ion propulsion engine. promise he made to Ed Cameron, should his memories ever return.
They received funding from the military and ultimately were successful
in 1953. When the test was successful, Ed’s father Alexander got Al made the decision to go public with the information about his
involved and promised to fund the project to move into production. involvement at Montauk and the Philadelphia experiment in the 1989.
He has been a prolific speaker on both radio talk shows and conferences.
Something went wrong. Apparently, this technology stepped on the toes
of some other powerful group. Al thinks it has something to do with the He believes he has not been harmed or stopped because his time
Cristaldi Research Group. It was decided to take Ed out. A group of traveling experiences locked him into this timeline. Somehow, by being
“Black Ops“ soldiers removed Ed from the premises and put him on a here today, he, among others in the program, serve to balance the effects
train to the Pentagon. they produced from prior time traveling experiments.

Ed was taken to MacLean Virginia, placed into a portal, and sent to note: During these interviews, Al Bielek said he received information
Alpha Centauri One. After several days interrogation by aliens, Ed was that up to 2 Million children are missing each year. I didn't believe it! So
returned to the Pentagon. I did my own research. Basically, what I found is there is a total of 1.4
million children reported missing in the United States. California alone
Even though reporting in daily, Ed was never again given another has a total of 110,332. Click here for a link to my reference
assignment. Continual inquiry on Ed's part finally resulted in a plea to <http://www.nccan.net/>. Here is a local PDF file of some California
the Joint Chiefs. Their response was "there is nothing we can do, it is out stats. <pdf/missing_children2.pdf>
of our hands."
Duncan Cameron is one of the central figure in the Philadelphia
Ed was then taken to Montauk on August 12th 1953, and physically Experiment and Montauk Project saga. According to Al Bielek, Duncan
regressed to Al Bielek and the year - 1927. was his brother (when Al was Ed Cameron) who jumped off the USS
Eldridge in 1943 and landed into the future. When they wound up in
Life of Al Bielek Al Bielek was born in 1927. His first memories 1983 at Montauk, both were sent back to the USS Eldridge to destroy the
of being Al Bielek were when he was nine months old during a equipment that was keeping the ship in hyperspace.
family Christmas party. The odd thing about his memory was
that he fully understood the conversation that was taking place Al Bielek says that before the USS Eldridge rematerialized, Duncan
around the piano. jumped back off the ship and returned back to 1983. He was used
As Al went through grade school, he was know as the "walking extensively as a psychic in the Montauk project. During one of the
encyclopedia". Before graduating high school, he took an electronics test experiments, Duncan Cameron lost his "time lock" and began to age one
and was the only one to pass. The Navy needed people like him during year for every hour that passed.
the war years and recruited him.
The time engineers at Montauk went back in time (to 1950) and
Al later completed his education and took on various vocations in the convinced Duncan's original father, Alexander Cameron to sire another
field of electronics. While contracting for various Military contractors, son. When done, they removed Duncan's soul and put it into the new
the people who worked with him began to reveal the truth about our child. This person is who we know today as Duncan Cameron.
involvement with Extra Terrestrials and PSI Ops (Psychic Operations)
programs. Strange things started to happen to Al soon afterwards. While The new Duncan picked up where the old Duncan left off. He became
one of the principal psychics who manned the Montauk Chair. The chain of space and time to allow for the successful transport of matter and
was used to create and hold the frequency required to perform the time energy into other dimensions through "portals" or time warps. These
travel and mind control activities. (Listen to Larry James interviews projects are reportedly being carried out by the combined efforts of
<larry_james.htm>) clandestine units of the CIA, NSA, DARPA and other government
agencies, military intelligence and corporations with strong defense-
Duncan, as well as Stewart Swerdlow, allegedly were both Montauk related ties.
Boys programmers. This part of the program still deeply troubles both of
them. A particle accelerator is claimed to be used for powering particle beam
weapons and radar systems, as well as HAARP-like transmissions of
The Montauk program was brought to an abrupt halt when "Jr.", the high- powered radio frequencies into the ionosphere. There is purported
Bigfoot monster was brought into form (via Duncan) and proceed to evidence of additional particle accelerators at nearby locations.
wreck the base. Brookhaven National Labs, a research facility on Plum Island, and a
military facility at West Hampton Beach, have been mentioned as
All of the people we interviewed that participated in the Montauk were possible sites.
subject to many sessions of mind control. Essentially, they had their
memories wiped by Montauk technology. In many cases, false memories The Human Factor
were implanted to cover up their real activities. But as we learn from Al,
their technologies were not perfect. Over time, the memories slowly I have attempted to chronicle the numerous incidents, and subsequent
returned. research and investigations, that indicate my apparent personal
involvement with the Montauk Project. The investigation is far from
Duncan is in the process of slowly recovering his memories. He recalls complete...for it appears the deeper we go, the more we unearth. I have
being on the USS Eldridge and now accepts that Al was his brother. He determined it is more important to alert others of the REALITY of the
remembers going to Mars and many of the things that happened at Montauk Project and, in doing so, garner the assistance necessary to
Montauk. The process of remembering has been difficult for him, pursue the truth. While some details may seem innocuous, I include
because it goes against his true nature. Hopefully, in time, we will all get them in the event future verification is needed.
the true story of what really happened at Montauk.
The Sands Of Time
Reptilians at Montauk
It was mid-September, 1994. It had been almost 25 years since I had
by Michelle A. Guerin visited Montauk, NY. As I stepped off the train, I wondered still, why I
felt the need to go there. I was trying to come to terms with and reach
See: <http://members.aol.com/nymush/article.txt> some understanding of my apparent involvement with alien abductions. I
was seeing Dr.Maurice Kouguell, PhD., a clinical psychologist
specializing in hypnotherapy, to assist me in overcoming anxiety caused
by these experiences.
On the southeastern most tip of Long Island, lies the idyllic fishing
hamlet of Montauk, NY. Quiet and sparsely inhabited during the cold, At Montauk, the busy summer season had ended, and I looked forward
wind-strafed months of winter, the town's population swells each to relaxing, doing some reading on the subject of alien abductions, and
summer with the onslaught of tourists, fishermen and those fortunate to with any luck, finding some answers. I spent 4 days at Montauk. With
have season residence in this quaint seaside village. Many "day" visitors each passing day, I got more and more depressed. I did not venture any
flock to see the historic landmark, the Montauk Lighthouse, further than a few blocks in either direction of my hotel. I couldn't wait
commissioned by the "Father of Our Country", George Washington. to leave and returned home on Friday.

But there is a darker side of Montauk Point that many are unaware of. The next night, after falling asleep around midnight, I was abruptly
Within view of the famous lighthouse lies a derelict military facility, awakened by the violent vibrating of my bed and my body. It felt as
known as Camp Hero. A Sage Radar dish sits atop a tall, abandoned though I was hit by an earthquake. However, I suddenly sensed I was not
building in the distance. Records show Camp Hero was officially alone. I was unable to see anything. I don't know if my eyes were open
decommissioned and vacated by the US Air Force in 1969. It was or not, but I could feel my body being pulled from the bed. I still
reopened and operated without the sanction of the US Government, remember how the sheet felt as my body was pulled across it. I tried to
utilizing a fully verified and documented subterranean facility beneath scream "Oh God", but it came out as a whisper. I screamed in my
the base. And it is here, many believe, the Montauk Project was able to head,"No...I'm still awake". By this time, my hips were at the edge of the
carry on it's covert operations. bed. I turned and tried to grab for the headboard, to drag myself back.
That was the last thing I remembered before losing consciousness.
What Is The Montauk Project?
The next morning I remembered none of this. Later that evening, while
According to Preston Nichols and Peter Moon, authors of "The Montauk talking to a friend on the phone, it suddenly came flooding back to me. I
Project: Experiments In Time", the Montauk Project "was a development quickly finished the conversation, too upset to talk, and changed for bed.
and culmination of the phenomena encountered aboard the USS Eldridge That's when I first noticed the 2 puncture marks on my left thigh. They
in 1943." This is popularly known as the Philadelphia Experiment, a were about 2 inches apart...midway between my knee and the top of my
series of experiments conducted by by the U.S. Navy involving radar thigh.
invisibility.
I was determined to have a record of this latest physical manifestation of
"According to these accounts," states Peter Moon, "over three decades of my experiences. At the time, I worked for Dr.D, an internist. I asked him
secret research and applied technology ensued. Experiments were to please look at these marks and to tell me if they were indeed puncture
conducted that included electronic mind surveillance and the control of marks. He examined them and stated that they "appeared to be puncture
distinct populations. The climax of this work was reached at Montauk marks", but they were "too symmetrical" and "how could I get them and
Point in 1983. It was at this point that the Montauk Project effectively not know how it happened?"
ripped open a hole in space-time to 1943."
I decided it was time to tell him how it happened. After hearing my
Allegations have been made of ongoing research and experimentation story, he recommended I see a psychiatrist. I made an appointment with
into psychotronics, electromagnetic mind control and the manipulation a local doctor. I spent close to an hour telling Dr.S of my experiences.
When I was finished, he advised me that he did not believe in the hit us very strongly. The road ended abruptly at a dead end. Louise
possibility that life existed elsewhere in the universe. I said that he was wanted to go back to the hotel, but I insisted that I knew we were close
going to tell me I was suffering from night terrors and sleep paralysis. to the radar dish and wanted to check around just a little.
He concurred with that diagnosis. I asked him how it was possible to
have puncture marks associated with this diagnosis. He had no answer. I I climbed over a pile of wood chips and went through some small brush.
then asked him if I was neurotic, psychotic or suffering from delusions. About a hundred feet into the brush the asphalt road continued. I
He said no. I stated, "Well maybe, just maybe, I am telling you the followed it to a clearing and there it was, right in front of me...the radar
truth". Before I left his office, I told him at this point the best we could dish. I went back to the car, where Louise was waiting and grabbed the
say, is that we had agreed to disagree. And I hoped we could have this video camera. I returned the same way, taping as I went along. After
conversation again 10 years from now. I eventually saw Dr.Kouguell shooting the radar dish, I suddenly got an eerie feeling that I was being
concerning this episode. The puncture marks were still visible and I watched. The feeling was very strong and very frightening. I wanted to
showed them to him. run back to the car, but I was afraid I would fall. I left as quickly as I
could. Louise and I returned to the hotel.
Prior to this experience, I had related to Dr. Kouguell partial accounts of
my encounters with a species I referred to as "the nasty ones". Even after We went to bed about midnight but I stayed up until approximately
regression, I was unable to get a clear image in my mind of their 1:30am reading. Sometime between 3:00 - 3:30am both of us were
appearance. All I could draw was a picture that resembled a "fat plant awakened by a loud noise. The smoke detector in our hotel room was
leaf ". I also had a strange response to a silhouette image, and going off and neither of us could reach it in order to turn it off. We
subsequent flash image, of an alien depicted in an episode of the "X- finally contacted a hotel employee who advised us that the smoke
Files". I was terrified. The image was of a large, muscular being with detector was not run off a battery ...it was connected directly to the
pronounced, pointed ears. room's electrical system. In order to shut it down, we should go to the
fuse box located on the side of the closet wall and throw the switches
While attending a UFO conference in New Jersey in March of 1995, I until we found the one connected to it. We tried all of the switches to no
arrived late to a lecture and slide show being presented by Leah Haley. avail. Even throwing the main switch, which cut power off to the entire
The slide show was already in progress when I took my seat. After just a room, did not shut down the smoke detector. A maintenance employee of
few minutes, an image appeared on the screen which caused me to panic the hotel came to our room and tried shutting down the electricity...the
and become so anxious, I had to leave the room. The image she had detector still continued. He finally had to pull the smoke detector from
drawn was of a reptilian being she had encountered during an abduction. the wall and cut the wires in order to turn it off. The next day, we agreed
It showed the same pointy ears I had seen on the "X-Files" episode. that neither of us wanted to return to the base. We were both too
Later, I was to realize this is what I had drawn for Dr. Kouguell. The frightened.
image of the "fat plant leaf " was the distinct shape of the alien's ears.
A couple of weeks later, I was scheduled to attend a UFO conference in
I had started to hear about a covert operation called the Montauk Project. Mobile AL. I went down a few days early to get away by myself a little.
I became very interested in learning more about it since I lived so close It was during this time that the flashbacks started. First, the face of the
to Montauk. I read the 3 books written by Preston Nichols and had very reptilian, close to mine, accompanied by a rasping sound. I knew the
uneasy feelings about this story. Why was I drawn to this place? Why reptilian image was during my... rape? But when? where? I didn't have
did I feel the need to learn everything I could? In one of the books is a the answers. Then I saw an image of travelling in a military jeep,
picture of Duncan Cameron. The face was so familiar to me...I knew I through tall grass and sand, over hills, soldiers wearing fatigues
had had a conversation with him at some time..and then realized it had (brown/tan/black) and black berets. I had also recalled a memory of
been telepathic! But I could not remember what the conversation had being submerged in some type of fluid...heavier than water. I kept
been about, nor when it had occurred. hearing muffled sounds of people talking and remembered yelling, "I
can't hear you." These flashbacks continued to haunt me, but I couldn't
Louise, a friend, and I were planning to attend a UFO conference in CT remember any other details. It was during the period after my return
in October, 1995. I suggested that since she was driving up to NY to pick from Mobile that I remembered a strange experience in Montauk in
me up for the conference, why not come a few days early and we would 1970. When questioned about periods of "missing time", I had always
explore at Montauk. She immediately agreed. stated that I didn't have any. But I suddenly remembered that I had! For
whatever reason, I had no recall of it until this time. During a visit to my
Upon arriving in Montauk, we checked in to our hotel room, and set off aunt and uncle's campsite at Ditch Plains in Montauk, I was missing for
for Camp Hero. We tried different entrance points but all had security 2-3 hours and my uncle remembered it! My recollection of the early part
gates and signs posted stating no trespassing. We finally found access on of that day had always been very clear. My memory of the later part of
a side road just before the Lighthouse. It was an area just south of the the day had always been vague and blurry.
base, on the beach. The road we walked on ended at a parking area on a
cliff overlooking the ocean. The radar dish was visible from this point, I had an appointment with Dr.Kouguell that week and determined I
but was too far to hike to. should regress to that day in 1970 to see what really happened. I told
Dr.Kouguell that I felt he should put me under as deeply as he could...he
Louise felt very sick and uneasy there. For some reason, I was drawn to agreed.
the cliff. I stood out there by the edge, just looking out over the beach
and the ocean for about 10 minutes. I felt so drawn to this spot...why?... The following text is my recollections while under hypnosis: 11/9/95
what possible reason could there be? I had never been there before. Why Session
did I feel rooted to the spot? It was getting late and Louise and I wanted
to try one more road before we called it a day. We are driving in the car, on our way to Montauk. I'm sitting in the front
seat with my mom. My brothers and sister are in the back seat. Daddy's
Driving back toward the town, we turned in at Old Montauk Highway. at work. Mom is so happy we're going to Montauk. Uncle B is her half-
According to the map we had, this road should go into Camp Hero. brother ...they just met a couple of years ago, at the funeral of her natural
There was also notations on the map of areas where someone had "felt a father.
void" and very ominous feelings.
We arrive at Ditch Plains, the campsite they stay at in Montauk. I hang
While driving down the road, Louise and I both felt this "void". It was around for a little while, talking with everyone, then decide to change
one of the strangest feelings I've ever felt. The only way I can describe it into my bathing suit (a two-piece) but put my cutoffs on over my bathing
is the absence of feeling life, as if nothing lived in this space. I wish I suit bottom. This is so boring. I'm going to look around the campsite
could be more specific. Once past this void, the terrible, ominous feeling
I walk towards the east a little way and after awhile I pass by a group of to the foot of the table. He pulls off my shorts and bathing suit bottom...
surfers camping there. One of them looks familiar...it's M! F's older he pushes my legs open and pulls me down towards him. His face is so
brother! I stop to say hello. M asks me if I've seen F yet, I tell him no. close to mine...I want to scream, but it's only in my head. I hear a raspy
He says F is surfing right now, so I decide to walk down to the water and sound coming from him. He puts something inside me and I feel like I'm
look for him. I sit on the sand at the shoreline, watching 5-6 surfers. being ripped apart. He likes to see how terrified I am...it gives him alot
Finally, I spot F. He is so beautiful! When he heads in from the water, I of pleasure. It hurts so much. I have to get away in my head to
get up and start walking in his direction. I hope he notices me. As I get someplace safe. I go.
closer, he does. He calls out my name and waves. I walk over and we
kiss hello. He asks what I'm doing in Montauk and I tell him. He asks if I don't know how long he does this, but when he is done, he goes back to
I'd like to take a walk in about an hour. He's got some things he has to do the part of the room I first saw him in and then he is suddenly gone. The
back at the campsite, can I meet him there? Sounds GREAT! door never opens or anything. I don't know how long I lay here. Terry
and another guy come through the door and dress me. They help me
This hour is going so slow. I'm at the campsite with F and we start from the table and we leave the room. After I am brought back up the
walking towards the east. We walk a little less than a mile. There's a cliff elevator, I am taken into another well-lit room. It reminds me of a
up ahead and we walk into the dunes to find a quiet spot. There's tall doctor's examining room... except there are machines I don't recognize
dune grass behind us. F's got a towel, so we sit down on that and start with lights and dials recessed in the wall above a counter area. There is a
making- out. We end up laying down next to each other. He kisses so lot of stainless steel equipment. And a table covered in white. I am
good. placed on that table and strapped down...including my head. I am
terrified. I am left alone for what is probably just a few minutes...but it
Suddenly, I hear a loud buzzing sound, like alot of bees. I sit up and so seems like hours.
does F. What is this? Something's not right! I look at F and he can hear it
too. We lay down on our backs, still next to each other. Why am I doing A group of 5 -6 people come in the room. They are wearing white gowns
this? We should run away! I try to yell to F that we should get out of and masks and hats that covered their heads. They are male, but I see at
there. But I can't talk...I can't move! I'm so scared...I want my mother! least one female. They are very busy. I don't know why.

It sounds like a car is coming...the sound gets closer, then stops. The My head is turned on it's side and taped to the table. I know this sounds
buzzing is louder now. Even though I'm scared, my body acts like it's strange, but a small portion of the area above and behind my right ear is
not. A man wearing a soldier uniform is looking down at me, standing on shaved. My ear is pulled toward the front of my face and taped to it!
my left. On the right, is another soldier, he kicks F's leg. "He's out of it" Although I am immobilized and can't talk I am completely conscious!
he says. "Mike, you take him to the jeep" says the leader on my left.
"Ok, Terry", says the guy on my right. There are 2 other guys with them, Someone is writing something on the skin behind my ear. I remember
but I don't know their names. Terry is very tan, with dark hair and dark someone is saying something about an "IV". And a man says, "Do you
glasses. The others seem to be more fair. Mike and another guy pick up think she need's it?" Someone else says, "I wouldn't want to take a
F and Mike carries him like the firemen do. Terry doesn't pick me up chance that she might wake up and start moving around". A few minutes
someone else does. later I feel a prick in my arm.

We're in the back seat of a jeep, traveling north, through the dunes and That's all I remember until I regained consciousness back on the dunes
tall grass. There's a big hill up ahead. This is so weird! The hill is with F.
moving...just part of it. It looks like a door in the hill. It moves forward
and then to my right. We drive in. There is another jeep parked on my *Note: About 10 years ago, I developed what was thought to be an
left. Two other men in the same uniform with the black beret are inside. inflamed cyst behind my right ear. The doctor had to lance it to drain and
They all have rifles! I still can't talk, but my body does what they want. remove it. As he broke the skin with the scalpel, something shot out. He
I'm helped from the jeep. F is between 2 guys and they are helping him examined it and said he had never seen anything like it. He said it was
walk. Terry and someone take me between them and I can walk, too. the size and shape of a bullet. He had to pack the hole it left with
This place looks like a garage or something. We go through a door. It's medicated gauze.
bright in this hallway. We turn right. F is just ahead of me. At the next
hallway, F keeps going straight with 2 guys, but we turn to the right and Facing Reality
walk a few feet to an elevator door. Terry has a credit card and puts it in
a slot next to the door. The slot is vertical and there are 2 lights above The shock of what was revealed during hypnotic regression left me
it...one red, one green. dazed and distraught. Was I losing my mind? How was something like
this possible? Could I have fabricated such a detailed account while
The door opens and we go inside,but there are no buttons to push. We're under hypnosis? These and many other troubling questions crowded my
going down, then door opens and it's much darker here. And it smells thoughts for days after the session.
funny...like a basement with a cesspool overflow problem. We turn right
and go a few feet...then turn left. I'm so cold! There's a door on my left, A chance conversation with the relatives I had been visiting at Montauk
Terry opens it. This room is so dark I can hardly see. There's almost no that fateful day , left me even more unnerved. As I described the "door in
furniture in it. There's something that looks like a padded table. They the hill" I had viewed near a cliff, my cousin stated she had come upon
help me on it and lay me down. Now I'm really cold. One guy says, "Do an area very similar to what I depicted, while walking near the
we just leave her here?", and Terry answers, "she's not going anywhere". Lighthouse one afternoon. I knew then, with complete certainty, that I
They leave the room. I can't seem to move anything but my eyes. Why needed to find the "door in the hill" in order to provide myself with
am I here? I don't like this. Over to my left, something moves. It's validation of this experience.
coming closer...I can see it better. OH MY GOD! It's a monster!
I returned to Montauk on Sunday, December 17, 1995 with my friend
(Note: At this point I got so agitated and almost jumped from the recliner Bill, an investigator for MUFON, and his wife. Bill understood my
in Dr. K's office. My eyes flew open and I couldn't stop shaking and intense need to find "the door in the hill" in order to come to grips with
cringing. Dr.K calmed me down and I could continue.) my memories of that fateful day 25 years ago. When we arrived at
Montauk, we first went down Old Montauk Highway...the road Louise
What I see is a creature about 6-7 ft tall. His ears are large and pointed at and I took at the end of our "tour". Bill asked me to let them know when
the top. His eyes are bright yellow-gold and seem to glow. He has pointy I felt we were entering the "void". I felt it much stronger than I did the
teeth and a large wrinkle on his forehead and he has a TAIL! He's first time. I let him know when it ended and the ominous feeling began.
coming towards me...I have never been so scared in my life. He comes At the end of the road, the wood chip pile visible on our last visit had
been cleared away and the road opened again. It looked like an area of of the hill, above the door. Photographs were taken of the entire area
brush and trees had been cleared completely...very strange. I could not from different angles.
make myself get out of the car, my fear was that intense.
As we departed the area, I spotted from the road, a section that seemed
As we started back on the road in the direction from which we came, a devoid of any trees or brush. While Bill waited on the road, while I
police car drove past us. This seemed quite unusual as this road is climbed down into the thick brush, to investigate. Finally breaking clear,
isolated with no thru traffic. Had our arrival caused concern? Before we I found a large, circular area of what appeared to be dead, crushed grass,
reached the "void" on our return trip, I suggested that Bill use the interspersed with taller clumps that looked as if they had been chopped
electromagnetic field detector he had brought to see if we got any or cut down. The trees that bordered this area also appeared dead.
readings. He gave it to me and asked that I let them know when I "felt" Hidden in a thicket of bushes, just to the west of the circle, was a group
we were entering the void. I told them I felt it starting...a few seconds of large boulders, similar to those evident on the beach. The arrangement
later, the light on the device went from green to amber. I said it was of the boulders immediately brought an image of "table and chairs" to
getting very strong...again maybe 3 seconds passed and the light went my mind. Several trees next to the boulders had been uprooted
from amber to red. Then the device went crazy....flashing like a pinball completely. It was apparent that these boulders were not a natural
machine! As we started to exit the void, I continued to give my formation, and had somehow been placed in this location. But how? and
"readings", confirmed by the device a few seconds later. more important, why?

We drove to the main highway and pulled off in the rest area. The three Further Validation
of us were almost too shocked to speak. Bill confided that he had been
very skeptical of my ability to "feel" this void when we started this trip. Recently, I was able to view video tapes filmed by Preston Nichols, of
He was now completely convinced. We proceeded to the lighthouse and the underground facilities at Montauk prior to them being sealed. They
parked the car. contained footage that he did NOT include on the videos produced for
sale to the public. One of the cassettes contained footage of the bunker I
As we walked down a rocky path to the beach, we noticed a crude brought into, what I have come to call my "door in the hill". I sat, as if in
handwritten sign advising that an erosion control project was ongoing in a trance, and viewed the familiar images on the screen...the large
that area. Recently placed boulders and cement slabs were evident. At entrance area behind "the door"...the "bright hallway" (white) beyond
this point, my "feelings" were at the most intense level I had ever felt. the entrance area... small rooms located off the hallway. Although I
There was something about the placement of these of these boulders and remembered the hallway being longer, and a small alcove where an
slabs that wasn't "right". I was drawn to a point above the beach...a cliff elevator had been located, it was possible that a wall had been
jutting out over the sand. constructed at what appeared to be the dead end. I had already confirmed
the existence of an elevator in this location with a retired military
We left the beach and walked up a hill towards the parking area Louise intelligence officer familiar with Camp Hero's underground facilities
and I walked to our last visit. The whole time we were on the beach, I during the period 1954-58.
had the feeling we were being watched and I mentioned this to Bill. Just
before we reached the parking area, I observed a man crouching in the Here was further validation of my account! I should have been elated.
brush on the top of a hill and I pointed him out to Bill. The man stood up Instead, I found myself sitting there quietly, a knot in my stomach,
and stared at us. Bill took out his camera and took his picture. The man saying to myself, "My God...it is REAL!" It doesn't seem to matter how
crouched down again and eventually was lost from view. We did not much validation I receive...I don't want to believe what I know to be
encounter him again. true.

Only a few hundred feet from the hill was the parking area on the cliff. Also while viewing these video tapes, I had a conscious recall of being
Looking to the west northwest, was Camp Hero. This was the vicinity contained in an isolation tank. This flashback included seeing a "face" of
my cousin stated seeing a door, similar to the one I had described. I a person (human) familiar to me, and a telepathic conversation meant to
looked around and saw what appeared to be a partial view of a stone and calm and soothe me. During the conversation, he referred to me as "little
mortar wall. This had to be the door! I felt something about it, but I was one".
confused... it just didn't seem right somehow. I remembered the hill
being much higher and more pronounced. I started to wander away from I met with Dr. Kouguell a few days later to explore this memory through
Bill and his wife... going back toward the lighthouse. I was walking on hypnotic regression. From the moment he asked during the session if I
the opposite side of the hill where we had spotted the man...closer to the was sure I wanted to look at this memory, a battle was waged in my
ocean and the cliff. mind. He asked me to indicate "yes" by slightly moving my right index
finger. And try as hard as I could, I could not move it. Then he asked me
I stopped every few yards and looked out over the ocean and tried to to indicate "no" by slightly moving my right middle finger. It took all my
compare the image with what I had recalled. My feelings of helplessness power to hold it in place. I finally moved my right index finger ever so
and terror were very intense at this point. I continued to walk further slightly. I had never had this experience while under hypnosis before.
back towards the lighthouse. Suddenly, I was standing in front of
it...THE DOOR...exactly as I had remembered it! I shouted for Bill and I recalled being in a dark place...being afraid...floating in something that
his wife. They came and seemed stunned by what they saw. I started to felt slightly heavier than water...feeling warm....and smelling peppermint
cry, and everything I had bottled up for so long came out. It was such a or spearmint. He took me to a point before being in that place. I was
relief. I now knew, with complete certainty, that my experience had been laying naked on a table and had alot of wires attached to me, all over my
real. I was not losing my mind or imagining things. body and my head. I saw "that doctor" in a white lab coat standing next
to me. Then he took me to a point before I was there. I was home in my
Next to the door was a small opening that lead to a short tunnel. The end room (different home than now). I woke up and 2 men dressed in black
of the tunnel had been cemented over. On the ground, in front of the clothes were in my room. I couldn't see anything of what they looked
door, was a concrete circle, divided into equal parts including an equal like. I asked where Joe and David were (my roommates). I was told they
section in the center of the circle. It was approximately 8-10 feet in were sleeping. I was then given an injection and felt very sleepy. I was
diameter. There was a red fire hydrant next to it. Anchored from a utility wrapped in a blanket and carried out the back door to a dark van (blue?).
pole on the other side of the hill, and almost completely outlining the I was placed on the floor in the rear of the van and someone sat near me.
circumference of the hill, stretched a thick, black electrical wire. This The next thing I remember is feeling as if I were on a roller coaster. I
wire ended abruptly, tied to a bush. Looking over the cliff, wires running don't know where I was taken or how long it took to get there. Suddenly,
from inside the cliff, hung down about 10 feet and then snaked back I was standing naked in front of a metal door, struggling with a soldier
inside the cliff. There were remnants of a structure or building at the top holding a rifle, while "that doctor" told me I "had to do this". I was
sobbing , pleading with him not to "make me go back in there". as emotional, pain and torment associated with the grey and reptilian
alien "hybrid program" . I contend
I couldn't continue with the session and Dr. Kouguell brought me back. I these programs exist in order to enhance their species with the addition
told him, as much as I wanted to remember what happened, I knew I of human emotions. In my opinion, they are trying to instill individual
wasn't ready yet to face it. Eventually, I knew I would have to. "soul" into a race that currently exists
with a shared single consciousness. However, their agenda is strictly to
An agonizing dilemma ensued. Conscious of my need to find the truth of benefit themselves. They have no compassion nor are they visiting us in
my involvement, could I actually be unable to face it? What if my order to benevolently lead us down the
reluctance to explore this memory was being controlled by outside road of cosmic redemption. Simply, they are here to take what they
influences? And the battle continued to rage in my mind. Finally, I made need.
the decision to continue...I had come too far to turn back now. I would But in my estimation, this plan has a built in "auto-destruct" mechanism.
face the truth and rely on my strength of conviction to overcome any About three years ago, I had a very disturbing "dream". I had dreamt I
obstacles. was holding a "baby monkey". The intense emotional upheaval I felt, by
way of a strong maternal urge...a need
Before we began the next regression, I related my observations on to "mother" something...compelled me to go to an animal shelter the
possible "blocks" of this memory to Dr.K. I suggested a deep-level next morning to adopt a puppy.
trance might be needed to retrieve them. While under hypnosis, I started But there was something about this "dream" that continued to bother me.
to "relive" this experience... I knew that I had been holding something else, before the "monkey".
Under hypnosis, I was able to recall being
I am, once again, in a black enclosed area....struggling, afraid of presented with, and holding, a hybrid child that I knew to be mine.
drowning. Why do I have to be in this place? It scares me so much...I When I held my son, Lyjor, and looked into his eyes, I found myself
want to get out! I calm myself enough to float. The liquid feels heavier speaking telepathically to him. And I know he understood what I was
than water. It's warm and I smell something "minty". I can feel wires saying. His mental capacity was far beyond what
attached to me as I move my arms and legs slightly...on my chest and we expect from an infant. I "felt" his unconditional love for me, his
head, too. I stretch out my arms, trying to feel the walls that enclose me. mother. And I know he felt mine. I told him that there would always be a
On my right, my fingers trace the smooth surface, traveling upwards in part of me in him. And he felt my sadness
an 'arc' above me. Floating...gentle motion...blackness all around...are at knowing we would not be together except in spirit...for yes, this child
my eyes open?....or are they closed?...is this 'blackness' I see only in my had a soul. I told him, he too, now had the choice of "Free Will". He
mind? was an individual soul. He understood
this completely. But this is what baffled the greys that were there...no
I can see movement...forms and shadows. Blackness lightens to dark concept of "Free Will". So if their goal was just to add emotion to
gray. My friend is here and says, "Don't be afraid, little one. I will help their species... they're in for a BIG
you ...guide you...take my hand". Dark gray now turning to blue, like the SURPRISE. These hybrid children are definitely going to "march to the
sky ...white clouds. It feels like I'm flying. I can see a beautiful, lush beat of a different drummer". And somehow I know, I WILL see him
hilltop, overlooking tranquil blue water. A large white building (a again.
house?) with tall pillars and steps sits on top of the hill. A dirt road is I know how difficult this is to accept. But of all my experiences, this is
nearby, and I can see a man, dressed in a short tunic, struggles to move a the one I'm most certain of. The reason it can happen "right under
wooden cart. Scenes flashing...bright swirl of colors..orange, red, deep everyone's nose" is because the majority
purple and shades of brown and tan. of people will not accept something they can neither see, hear or feel.
The reason Washington seems to lack concern is that there is no
I see a rocky, mountainous area...dry like the desert, dusty. There are involvement with our "governing body"
deep canyons...high cliffs. Scenes flashing....diving through the white per se. All of the involvement points to the military and intelligence
foam of a dark blue wave. I am underwater, among the sea creatures. But agencies, made possible by financial considerations of those controlling
it's light and I can see beautiful colors. There is a dark entrance to what the powerful energy and defense
looks like a cave among the hills and rocks. Scenes flashing...a desolate industries. And we have allowed a division to develop that removes
place...not a nice feeling...barren...lonely...cold...a place out of time. them from actual governmental oversight. The Black Budget! While I
Time is not what we think. Each moment is happening now...on an have NO doubt that the alien abduction
endless 'loop'. We can enter the loops at many points...but should take phenomenon is REAL, I don't think we should throw out the theory that
care not to disrupt the loops. Past, present and future are happening very terrestrial "mind control" may be behind some of the abductions.
simultaneously. This is a critical area of the phenomenon
that needs to be investigated and addressed.
After the session, I discussed what I had retrieved with Dr. Kouguell. I try desperately not to cloud my mind with self-pity. Playing the role
Although, I was filled with wonder and awe at what I had experienced, of a "victim" is not going to solve this dilemma. That is why I believe it
unable to be sure if it had happened in the past or present, I still felt I had is up to us, those involved in this
not been given a "choice" about participating. Dr. K. mentioned the fact conspiracy by default, to pursue the answers. And make our voices
that I had willingly "taken" my friend's hand...wasn't that making a heard.
choice? The truth is out there and has been for a long time. But no one is
listening...
I explained my feelings using the following analogy....
ORION TECHNOLOGY AND OTHER SECRET PROJECTS
If someone was dangling me by my feet off the 13th story of a building,
Introduction
threatening to drop me, and along comes a man on a flying carpet,
offering to save me...is that REALLY a choice? Or am I being coerced to This report was constructed from over 9 hours of video interviews,
follow a certain direction? After some discussion, I came to the personal interviews and individual commentary. It is structured in an
understanding that I now have a choice. I'm able to jump from that "13 open question-answer format, without regard to who is asking the
story building". I know I will not fall ! question and who is answering; this format also allows insertion of other
Alien/Human Hybrids data in the later part of the report in the same open Q&A format. The
© by Michelle Guerin data is not proven or verified, but is reported as received. This report
See: <http://members.aol.com/nymush/article.txt> contains information on the following: The Philadelphia Project, or
I speak from the position of one who has undergone the physical, as well Project Rainbow, Phoenix Projects 1-3, origins of the Radiosonde and
connections with the work of Wilhelm Reich, government weather of orgone energy coming into contact with an enclosed radioactive
control programs and hidden agenda, the Montauk Hind Control source. This produces a Deadly Orgone Energy - DOR - which threatens
projects, the deliberate murder of thousands of American children in life. It is also produced in the atmosphere through other processes. The
mind control research and time tunnel experiments, government time- government sent the device up there into a storm and it did reduce the
tunnel projects and operational procedures, how Nickola Tesla and Von intensity of the storm. The government liked it, and they started another
Neumann contributed to these projects, the "martyrdom clause", mind phase of the Phoenix project where they designed these "radiosondes"
control by individual signature, technical ways to produce planetary and started launching them in large numbers, maybe 200 to 500 per day.
holograms and Matreiya effects, the explanation behind closed time The radio in these things had a range of about 1oo miles. If they used so
loops, government rationale and plans for the confinement camps and many of them, one would think that receivers for them would be
slave labor, Project Dreamscan, Project Moonscan, the Airborne common-place. I used to be a collector of radio receivers. I have over
Instrument Labs, Project Mindwrecker, the alien groups known as the 100 in my personal collection. I have never seen a radiosonde receiver. I
Kondrashkin and their interaction with US Government mind control have heard of them but I have never seen them.
programs, the Kamogol II and Giza Groups, the negative Sirians, Soviet
scalar weaponry, Orion Group manipulations, 6th root race incarnations, What are the frequencies used?
telepathy producing drugs and their use and suppression, the FAA and
zero-time generators, technical spin-offs from the Philadelphia project, The frequencies used are 403 MHz and 1680 MHz. They used two
the International Aerospace Alliance, cross-section of implant device, different frequencies.
Wilhelm Reich and mind control, Reichian Orgastic-type programming
and its use by the US Government and Sirians, the Psi-Corps, Alien soul- They are both on at the same time?
trading, Montauk and the aliens from the Antares system, the Leverons,
the Elohim Group, the US Navy and time-tunnel projects, the US No. One or the other was used at any one time. The earlier ones used
Government and the Greys, electronic life support,systems of the 403 MHz plus or minus 2 MHz. The later ones used 1680 MHZ, plus or
Reptilian Humanoids, new life form masses over the poles and their minus 6 MHz. The "thermistor" in them had gold, silver, platinum and
relation to yearly outbreaks of flu-like disease, AIDS and Fort Dietrick iridium in it. Reich used sensors that had gold and silver in them. The
(NSA), Maglev trains and the US underground tunnel network, the humidity element is a plastic plate with silver around the rim and
missing human genes, buried spacecraft and alien technical archives conductive lines going across the plate. They put a very unusual mixture
under the Giza pyramid, the coming new money, the "Black Nobility", of chemicals on this plate. Unlike most humistors, the resistance went up
Nordic and human copper based blood systems and physiology, the as it got damp.
technology of cloning and the development of synthetic humans and
political replacement programs, the Middle East situation, Congressional What we're theorizing at this point is that the "thermistor" (temperature
awareness of drug and alien agenda, the MIB, the US Army and the sensing) rod acts like a DOR antenna out-of-phase. The "humidity
black helicopter forces, government mobile mind disruption technology, sensor" acts as an antenna for the orgone; The pressure sensor is
nature and purposes and the Orion Group, fourth density transmutation essentially what they call a barrel switch, which is a pressure sensitive
of the human race, geological changes, Sirian Mind Control technology, cycling switch. The device would destroy DOR and build up the orgone.
and more, along with illustrations gleaned from witnesses with The transmitter consisted of two oscillators, one of which would run at
photographic memory and a lot of courage. This information is the carrier frequency (403 or 1680) and a second one which was a 7
supplementary to that in Chapter 7 (Matrix III). MHz oscillator hooked into the grid of the carrier oscillator. The result
was that the 7 MHZ oscillator would pulse on and off.
The Interviews
How does all this relate to what was going on with these other projects?
Where do you want to start?
The government could not tell the public these were weather control
Let's start with the Phoenix Project. devices. What we are seeing here is actually the genesis of what became
the Montauk project, which was a combination of Wilhelm Reich's work
It was a project that evolved out of the Philadelphia Project. it was a and the Philadelphia Experiment. There were two separate projects
project that the Navy did in the 1930's and 1940's in an attempt to make going on in Phoenix One. You had the invisibility aspect and you had the
ships invisible. They threw the switch one eventful day and the ship development of Wilhelm Reich's weather control. Toward the end of the
went into hyperspace. They had all sorts of problems with the people on Phoenix project, by using some of Wilhelm Reich's concepts and some
the boat. It was a huge success as well as a huge failure - then they of the transmission schemes used from the "radiosonde" project, they
shelved it. Around 1947 it was decided to re-activate the project and it found that you could combine the two -factors and use them for MIND
was moved to Brookhaven National Laboratories with Dr. John Von CONTROL. Government circles would have me say "mood alteration",
Neumann and his associates. Out of Phoenix I came Stealth technology, but mind control is what these idiots were doing.
which I cannot talk about because of my job. It also produced all sorts of
energetic little toys like the radiosonde. That's what the Montauk project was?

What is a radiosonde? No. Phoenix One. After political circles found out about it they wanted it
shut down. The people that were running it went to the military and
Well, in all appearances it was a little white box that they attached to a proposed that they could use it to "influence the minds of the enemy".
balloon and sent up into the atmosphere. The government told people The military loved the idea, and let them use the old Montauk Air Force
that it involved gathering weather data. It used a very unusual type of Base. Among the equipment requested was an old SAGE radar unit,
pulse modulation. In most cases they used a CW (continuous wave) which was on the base. The base was shut down and everything was
oscillator and pulsed the signal. This turned out to be a very efficient auctioned off. The group then moved in from the Brookhaven Labs. That
conversion of electrical energy to etheric energy. I very recently started began what we call Phoenix Two. They spent the first ten years, from
collecting radiosondes. I never saw a receiver. I found out that they were about 1969 to about 1979, researching pure mind control. They started
designed up at Brookhaven National Labs. I started to talk to people at out by taking the output of the SAGE radar, modulating the special wave
Brookhaven and ran into a retired gentleman who used to work there. He that Reich had showed them from the weather control process, and
told me that the design was originally done by Wilhelm Reich. That combined that with something noticed from the Philadelphia Experiment
peaked my interest. The story goes that in about 1947 Wilhelm Reich work. They transmitted about 406 MHz. It would hop around
handed the US Government a weather control device, a device that frequencies and change in phase. They used the amplidine concept
would do DOR-busting. Reich thought that if he could decrease the where you have many stages pulse-modulated. BRF was from 10 cycles
amount of DOR that storms would not be so violent. (DOR is the result to 750 cycles. The pulse width could be varied anywhere from 10 to
75ms. The center frequency was 406MHz generated from a stay-low $20 per ounce. The train was blown up in the tunnel. It killed 51
type function which was referenced from a zero-time function. American soldiers. The gold turned up ten years later at Montauk. This
has been verified. That money was used to finance the project for many
Was there any other modulation on this? years as the value of gold went uo. They spent all of it and ran out of
money. That's when they tapped on ITT, who funded it. ITT was owned
There was frequency hopping on it. by Krupp in Germany. In terms of personnel, many of the civilians and
scientists there were all ex-Nazi's who came from Germany both before
So Phoenix Two started in 1969? and after the war ended. The project was under US Government
surveillance. The intelligence community knew what was going on and
Yes, in the period from 1969 to 1971. Phoenix One went from 1948 to the CIA monitored everything, as did other government intelligence
1968. The first part of the mind control project was to take an individual agencies. The field of players who actually operated on the base was
and stand them about 250 feet away from the antenna. The SAGE radar small, between 30 and 50. The funding was entirely private. After 1983,
had a peak pulse power of .5 MW. The antenna had a gain of 30db. That Senator Goldwater found out about it and started an investigation. He
means an effective radiated power of at least a gigawatt. It was couldn't find any trace of government funding. Pruett was the
nominally a gigawatt. Can you imagine what that would do to people? I metaphysical director of the project. He was Air Force. After he left Dr.
think its amazing these people are still here. It does things like burn out Herman C. Untermann took over. They had an electronics expert, Dr.
brain functions, create neurological damage, scar lungs from heat, etc. Mathew E. Zerrett, who came over from Germany in 1946 with Werhner
They tried this with a number of people and there were few survivors. von Braun. Probably the reason that they ran out of money is that they
had a total of 25 bases around the United States to support. The last of
Where did they get the volunteers for this? the bases shut down August 12, 1983. The base at Montauk, where all
the stations got their zero-time reference from, shut down and the other
They were just grabbing indigent people off the street and throwing two remaining bases went down with it.
them in front of the radar beam. That's the sort of nonsense that the
government loves to do. What about some of the mind effects?

Who was in charge of the project at this time? From what I recall of the program, as I was part of it, I was subjected to
the mind control field not as I initially went into the program (because
Dr. John Von Neumann and Jack Pruett. they wanted me initially for my sensitive abilities) but later. I was
assigned to the indoctrination of the younger recruits. The first
Any particular agency? indoctrination turned out to be a disaster. I told them I didn't want
anything to do with the program, and they put me in front of this mind
I'm not sure what the agency was. Now, somebody got the brilliant idea beam, and it did do damage to me. Finally, someone said, "shut it off, he
to put the subjects directly in line with the gain horn of the antenna. Lo isn't going to give in to it" and they shut it off. Others were affected
and behold they got their result without burning the people up. They much more seriously than I was. The effects were generally really bad. It
found out that by varying the phase modulation and the frequency could burn your brains out. They would go out and pick kids between
hopping and the pulsing of the multiple phases that they could have the ages of 12 and 16 off the street...
profound effects on a persons mind.
That's where a lot of disappearing American kids went?
How many people worked at this installation?
We estimate they took 10,000 American children off the street and
About 30. brought them to Montauk, New Jersey. The total number of people that
they pulled off the streets for the 25 stations was about 250,000. What
Who authorized them use of the base? the actual thrust of the program was in terms of all these kids is still a
mystery. We still don't know the answers. We know they were fully
The Air Force and the Navy. It was a joint project. There were both programmed for something. They were subjected to programming which
Navy and Air Force personnel involved. We have copies of the orders for eventually became more "humane" using advanced electronic
the Air Force personnel. techniques. The original programming was Reichian in nature and was
more physical. Later they worked out techniques that used computers
What was the cover story for the base? and electronic programming with the Reichian techniques that took very
fast and had little side effects.
They had none. It was a derelict base.
Are you aware of any people presently who have been through this?
It was abandoned. It was turned over to GSA as surplus around 1969 or
1970 when they shut down all the SAGE radar systems. I've run into people over the years. There is a very specific field identity
pattern you can detect if you are sensitive enough. You can spot a person
It was a "non-existent" operation. it was a perfect cover. who has been through the Montauk program "five miles away". it's vary
distinctive in the way that it's been altered. I've spotted more than a
Where did they get the funding?
dozen people in the Long Island, New York area.
It was totally private.
What about Von Neumann?
Corporations?
He was still alive up until 1989. He has run into a problem with the
government as well as other problems, such as a personality split in
It didn't originally come from corporations, although it did in later
1977, when he resigned as director and became a consultant. The
phases. The original money came from the Nazi government.
government told everyone he died in 1956. The government is still
interacting with him.
This is Phoenix One?
Were any of the Montauk subjects given psycho tropic drugs?
No, this is Phoenix Two and Three. In 1944 there was an American troop
train that went through a French railroad tunnel carrying $10 billion in
I don't think so...
Nazi gold which they had found. it was $10 billion at the 1944 price of
They used one drug which was used in connection with the Reich Yes.
programming to make them more receptive. I don't remember the name
of it. The effect of the drug was that it would make you "horny as hell". One of the first things they did was send recruits forward to around 6030
AD. It was always to the same point. Somewhere in an abandoned city
Also euphoric at the same time? where there was a statue of solid gold. When they came back they were
asked what they saw. Whether they were expecting to find a different
Also euphoric, yes. answer from person to person is unknown. They would look into the
vortex and make sure the environment would support life before they
Did they get this mind-altering chair from the aliens? sent people. They took samples.

The prototype came from the aliens. Beyond that we are uncertain. This Are there potential futures that people could be sent to?
chair was essentially a mind amplifier. The government would have
specially trained individuals sit in the chair and generate thoughtforms, No. once you make the connection with the future the line becomes
which would be amplified and transmitted. They could transmit the fixed to that point.
signal and put people in a pre-orgasmic state where they would be
receptive to programming. It worked very well and they found other Can you change the present by sending someone to the past?
capabilities. They found that it could work in time. They had a
psychically trained individual sit in the chair and generate a thoughtform Yes. You can also change the present by sending someone into the
of a vortex that connected 1947 and 1981. That's exactly what they got - future. Under certain conditions. The government is using existing time
a time tunnel they could walk through. There was a series on television machines to go forward in the Montauk time line.
at one time that portrayed this concept fairly accurately. These were
some of the earlier capabilities. They started going forward and Are you saying that now the present can't be changed because we have
backward in time. That was the last phase of the Phoenix project. established a time-loop through the future and the past?

When did this time machine get going? Yes. That means whatever everyone is doing between the most extreme
past point and the future they will be doing forever.
Around 1979 or 1980 it was fully operational. This transmitter had
enough power to warp space and time. The individual in the chair would What is the furthest anyone has traveled in the future?
have to synthesize the vortex function because they didn't have the
technical capability to do that. It can now be mechanically synthesized. 10,000 AD.
They did other things. They had the subject in the chair think of some
creature, and the creature would materialize. They had the individual in So everything is locked in until 10.000AD?
the chair think of all the animals at Montauk point charging into town,
and that's exactly what happened. They almost had the power to create a Yes. It's a dreamlike reality. No one has picked up a tangible future
being. The problem they had was that what they created only stayed as beyond 2012 AD. There is a very abrupt wall there with nothing on the
long as the mind amplifier was on. The power was somewhere between other side.
gigawatts and terrawatts. Tremendous power. The vortex could have a
diameter of about five miles. Prophecies speak of earth changes around then.

Can you describe what this looked like? Curious, isn't it?

Its like looking into a peculiar spiral tunnel which was lit up down its Can you project yourself two hours into the future and meet yourself?
entire length. You would start to walk into this thing and then suddenly
you'd be pulled down it. You didn't walk through it as such. You were Yes, but its very dangerous. The person who walked into the tunnel is
more or less propelled through it. You could go anywhere in space and out of phase with the person who comes out the other end. This did
time. happen. The result is that the person just incinerates.

Could you bring things back? Did they ever give you a weapon in case you ran into anything negative?

Yes. They didn't have to do that. The vortex could be arranged to follow the
person, so that they could bring them back in if anything went wrong.
Have you ever brought anything back? They could see them on a viewer.

Yes. So they achieved a working time portal. At one point they had a situation
where they had a "monster from the ID" type creature come through and
Could you continue your description of the tunnel? everyone went into a panic. They shut the transmitter off. The creature
ate people and equipment. They had to go back and shut down the unit
Yes. The walls were solid but fluted. The tunnel was not straight but was in Philadelphia in order to shut off the unit in the future so they could
a sort of corkscrew shape. stop this creature in 1983. This was on August 12,1983. The vortex
locked on to the 12 August 1943 test and formed a loop. All this
If someone turned off the power, would you be stuck in the destination occurred because someone planted the thought in the mind of the
time and space? operator in the chair to generate this creature. It was an effort to sabotage
the project. A lot of people thought the project had gone too far. When I
Yes. You'd be stuck there. worked for them between 1971 and 1983 1 was so tired when I would
get home from work. What they would do is that when I my mission was
Did they send a lot of kids down the tunnel'? over they would return me to a point milliseconds before I left. It would
appear from one perspective that I never left. Of course, after I stopped
Yes, but we don't know what their goals were. They lost a lot of kids. working there, all that stopped. Is there a reason that all these things
happened?
Since there is a time loop between however far you went back in the past
through however far into the future, is everything fixed? If you go back into the Philadelphia experiment end of it, which was the
beginning of the whole business, one can see from the way that thing Other people came on board. Thomas T. Brown joined the project
was maneuvered that there was a higher force of some kind involved in because of his expertise in electrogravity effects. He had the task of
setting the whole thing up .... because it never would have happened the solving the problem of the German magnetic mines that were affecting
way it did unless two obscure dates 40 years apart coincided between the allied shipping and Naval efforts. This led into a parallel project which
two experiments: the project known as the Philadelphia experiment, or involved the use of degaussing coils and cables to explode the mines at a
Project Rainbow, in 1943 and the Montauk project in 1983. distance from the ship.

If I may interject something here. There is a point about two thirds of the The Navy wanted several people to keep an eye on the tests. That is how
way down the time tunnel where the person who is going through the I got involved. Keeping technical commentaries. Let's look at Nickola
tunnel perceives a large "thump". The person's consciousness leaves Tesla.
their body. There is a tendency to see things on a broader basis. I am sure
there was some intelligence there. Looking back on my experiences, I'm In 1879 his father died and his first year at college ended. He came to the
sure there was some intelligence there. I would have trouble with the United States in 1884. He had enormously intuitive insight. He had a
recognition of it. What they were trying to do at Montauk was to perfect track record. Before coming to the US he had known Robert
stabilize the perception process that would occur upon exteriorization Oppenheimer, who later worked with the development of the atomic
from the body. They were trying to manifest that for some reason. We bomb, and Dr. David Hilbert, the mathematician who devised equations
don't know what their purpose was. for Hilbert Space, which described multiple space or multiple realities
mathematically. These equations for multiple space became very
What was the role of the aliens in this whole thing, other than the important in the project. Dr. von Neumann met Hilbert in 1927 and
prototype of the mental amplifier chair? retained a lot of what he had learned. With that, Von Neumann
developed other new systems of mathematics. Von Neumann was
That would be the another part of this that we haven't got into yet. considered to be one of the most outstanding mathematicians in this
century. Some think he was better than Einstein. Another mathematician
Let's look at what the Philadelphia experiment got into in a technical involved was Dr. John Levinson, who was born in 1912. He died in
sense. It was what started all this happening. It originally began back in 1976. He published three books on mathematics. There is no other
the 1930's in Chicago with three people. Dr. John Hutchinson Sr., who history of Levinson himself anywhere that I can find. Levinson
was the Dean of the University of Chicago, Nickola Tesla, and Dr. developed the so-called Levinson Time Equations. with all this behind
Kurtenaur, who was an Austrian physicist who was on staff at the them, the group had all they needed to proceed with the project.
University.
After the successful 1940 test, the Navy decided to give the project
They decided to do something with the speculation regarding the unlimited funds and to classify the project. On December 5, 1941 I was
concept of things and people being invisible. This subject had been in San Francisco and the government came and told me that a war with
discussed for several year. They got together and did some research at Japan would start within 72 hours and that they needed me to assist
the University of Chicago around 1931 or 1932. In 1933 the Institute of them. In January 1942 I ended up at the Institute of Advanced Studies.
Advanced Studies at Princeton was formed and the project was Tesla was given a ship and a crew for a full sized test. Tesla got a
transferred there in 1934. One of the people on staff at the Institute was battleship. Tesla and Von Neumann didn't agree on some things. Tesla
Dr. John Erich Von Neumann, who was from Budapest Hungary. He got insisted that they were going to have a very severe problem with
his degree in chemistry in 1925 and his Ph.D. in mathematics in 1926. personnel. Tesla wanted more time but the NAVY wouldn't agree. Tesla
He taught in Europe for about four years and transferred to the United made periodic announcements in the late 1930's and early 1940's about
States. He taught at the graduate level for three years and was invited to his contact with off planet species. He was in contact with the outside,
join the Institute. who agreed that there was a problem with the people. He decided to
sabotage the 1942 test in an attempt to stop the project. He de-tuned the
Other people at the Institute included Albert Einstein, who left Germany equipment so nothing would work. The test failed. Tesla then turned the
in 1930. He went to the California Institute of Technology for three years project over to Von Neumann in March 1942 and left the project.
and taught there and then went to the Institute upon their invitation and
acceptance. A lot of other people showed up there as time went on. The Von Neumann went to the Navy and requested time to study the problem
project expanded about 1936. In the meantime, Tesla was named director to determine what had gone wrong. Von Neumann decided to make
of the project. He was a friend of president Franklin Roosevelt, whom changes in some of the equipment. He decided he would need a special
Tesla met in 1917 when FDR was secretary of the Navy. Tesla was asked ship that was designed from the ground up. The Eldridge was selected.
at that time to do some work for the government for the war effort, The equipment was built into the ship. They put all the equipment on the
which he did. He accepted and became director of the invisibility project ship. October 1942 arrived. They selected 33 volunteers for the crew,
until he resigned in 1942. In 1936, after intensive study, they decided to who arrived after graduation in December 1942. We still have a picture
have an initial test of their work. They achieved some partial invisibility. of the class.
The Navy and everyone else was encouraged to continue the work, and
the Navy supplied money for research. After the ship was out of drydock work began. In May of 1943 von
Neumann installed a third generator. It would never synchronize with the
Scientists were coming to the United States from Germany until 1939, other two. It went out of control one day and zapped one of the men. Von
when the war with Germany was started. Neumann pulled out the third generator (installed because Tesla had
convinced Von Neumann of the potential problem with people) and went
In 1940, after research using Tesla's approach, they decided they were back to the original design. In mid June, the ship had sea trials. On July
ready for a full test at the Brooklyn Navy Yard. They had a small ship 22, 1943, they had the test. The ship between radar and optically
and a tender ship at each side. One ship provided the power and the invisible. They discovered people very disoriented. The Navy pulled the
other supplied the drive for the coils. They were tendered to the test ship crew off and consulted Von Neumann, who requested more time again
by cables. The idea was that if anything went wrong they could cut the from the Navy. The Navy, after consultation with higher-ups, announced
cables or sink the test ship. Everything worked and the project was that the drop dead date was on the 12th of August, 1943. Von Neumann
declared a success. voiced his concern that it wasn't enough time.

The important point about the 1940 test is that there was no one on board The Navy decided that it just wanted radar invisibility and not optical
the test vehicle. It was strictly a dry run with no people. This is invisibility. The equipment was again modified by Von Neumann.
important because of what happened later. August 12th arrived. We knew things were not right. The test began, and
for about a minute everything was all right. The ships outline could be
seen in the water. There was suddenly a blue flash and the ship reference. The time stream lock allows the person to flow in synch with
disappeared entirely. No radio communication was possible. It was gone. the system so interaction is possible.
In about three hours it came back. One of the masts was broken. Some
personnel were partially embedded in the steel deck. Others were fading Time locks are fragile. All the power of the project disrupted the time-
in and out. Some disappeared entirely. Many were insane. The Navy locks of the people on the deck on the ship. When the ship came back in
extracted the crew and proceeded with four days of meetings to decided time, the people didn't come back to the same reference.
what to do about the problem. They decided there would be one more
test with another dry run without personnel. They conducted the dry run Von Neumann realized that he needed a computer, as well as some
using about 1000 feet of cable attached to another ship. In late October knowledge of metaphysics in order to be able to lock the time reference
1943 the test occurred. The ship disappeared for about 20 minutes. When of the people to the time reference of the ship. He built a computer in
it returned, they found equipment missing. Two transmitter cabinets and 1950 for the purpose. It was ready to be installed in 1952 and a test was
one generator was missing. The cabinet with the zero-time reference performed in 1953 that was successful. They didn't go floating off into
generator was intact. At that point, the Navy stripped the ship and space when it was over. At this point, the Navy canceled Project
stopped the project. The Eldridge served in the war and was turned over Rainbow and changed the name to project Phoenix.
to Greece at the end of the war.
Alot came out of the negative effects of the Rainbow project. Some of it
The important thing is that there were two tests that were exactly 40 led to mind control research programs in the Phoenix project. The
years apart to the day. It was a 40 year separation in hyperspace. Now, invisibility research produced some Stealth technology as well as other
the Earth itself has a biorhythm that peaks on a 20 year cycle on August highly classified projects.
12th. It "just happened" to peak and provided the connecting link
through the fields of the Earth for the two experiments to lock up in In 1983, they decided to apply mind control to all participants in these
hyperspace. Walk-in efforts are aided if they occur during this peak. projects in an effort to cover them up. They had also been working on
another project: age regression. Now, Tesla had sought back in the
The ship was pulled into hyperspace. We were inside the ship and knew 1940's to develop equipment that could help the members of the crew
something was drastically wrong with the test. We tried to shut it off but after they lost time-lock . The government developed it into the age
it wouldn't shut off. We ran out on deck and jumped over the side of the regression program. It was physical age regression. A person retained the
ship. We jumped overboard but ended up in a time tunnel which ended at memory they had from the older age.
Montauk, Long Island on August 12th, 1983. At night. We were found
very quickly and taken down stairs, where Von Neumann greeted us. He Tesla's theory was that if you took the individual's time-lock and moved
expected us. It was a bit of a shock. We had just been in 1943 and now it forward in time than you would remove aging. That's what happened.
we were in 1983 looking at Von Neumann as an old man. He said that It took between 30 and 60 days for the body to complete the change to
there was a hyperspace lockup and that we had to go back and shut off the new time reference.
the generators on the ship or the hyperspace rift would keep increasing
and possibly engulf the planet. He had been waiting 40 years for us to Now, some of this turned up in the movie called the Philadelphia
arrive. Experiment, which was released in 1984. The government got an
injunction which banned showing in the US for two years. It was
Montauk sent us back and we smashed the equipment with axes. The overturned in 1986 and it was out on tape. I saw the film in 1988, and it
ship returned to its original point in space and about three hours later in helped bring back some of my memory about this.
time. From 1943 on, Von Neumann didn't know what happened. He had
modified earlier equipment in 1943 to where he had a full blown time Any initial comments about electromagnetics?
machine. The Germans also were working on time travel, and had it
working in 1945 just before the end of the war. This is all a matter of Well, are a lot of interesting aspects. There is a explained by most
record. theories. It is not magnetic field only propagates at 0.4 of the
electromagnetic field propagates at the speed electric field (according to
After the Navy decided to shut down the project in 1943, Von Neumann Maxwells equations) propagates at the rate of c-infinity, which means
was sent to work on the atomic bomb project at Los Alamos until that that it propagates throughout the universe instantaneously. If you
was over. In 1947 there were major changes in the Department of understand those basic relationships and how they interlock with higher
Defense. Someone in the new structure decided to dig up the order energies and fields, like soliton and tensor fields, then you can
Philadelphia project to see if they could find out what went wrong. They understand how an antigravity drive will work. It is a fact that the
asked Von Neumann to "take another look" at the project. He agreed. unified field theory was completed by Einstein and given to the US
Government. They have it and they don't want anybody to know they
There is another matter. Starting about August 6th, 1943, UFOs appeared have it. It was never released publicly in any books. This kind of
over the Eldridge for about six days. They were there during the test. knowledge is used as a method of control between and for governments.
One of the UFOs was sucked up into hyperspace with the Eldridge and it It's unfortunate. The government is supposed to be "for the people and
ended up in an underground facility in Montauk in 1983. It contained a by the people". That is what it says in the Constitution. I wonder when
charging device which some aliens made us go back and get for them, as the last time the president read the Constitution?
they didn't want humans to have it. We don't know who they were. Pruett
was concerned about an alien invasion. It seems like there are more people involved in secrecy than there are
scientists. Where are all these people?
Also, Von Neumann was called by the government to come and assist in
the examination of a crashed UFO in 1947 at Aztec. Another crash There are government agents and agencies everywhere that are
occurred at Aztec about a year later. The first crash had greys on it and concerned with keeping things secret. These days, the secrecy is applied
none survived. At least one occupant survived the second crash. The more to the applications of hardware than the hardware itself. It's not
radar systems unintentionally brought down the craft. Radar was used like it was in the 1950's. As an example, the guidance package for the
intentionally after that until the aliens got wise to it. The occupant of the new Minuteman X missle that was developed for the Air Force by
second crash was not a grey, and Von Neumann got to talk with it. Von Northrop is unclassified. There was no classification on the circuitry and
Neumann asked it what the answer to the invisibility problems could be. It was so accurate that it could take a missle and drop it down a chimney
He learned that he had to go back and do his homework in metaphysics. stack. The applications was capable of was classified.
The nature of the problem was that the personnel on the ship were not
locked to the zerotime reference of the ship. Humans are normally Isn't a lot of this left out in the open to distract what is really going on?
locked to the point of conception as a time reference, not a zero-time
Of course. at which you took off you would be at the same point twice in your
lifetime and there would be a very serious problem.
What is the capacity of the gravity craft fleet of the United States?
Would you refresh my memory about some of the dates involved with
I don't know. I know that they have built quite a number of them. the development of electronic mind control in the US?

What are the capabilities of these craft? The mind control experiments were moved to Montauk about 1969. The
hardware phase of some of the later experiments began about 1975;
Well, when our astronauts first landed on the moon in 1969 they were equipment to modify the SAGE transmitter was ordered about 1973.
greeted by a fleet of disks sitting on the rim of a crater. The astronauts
asked their superiors if they knew about these disks. They were told ITT was the main contractor and sub-contracted portions of the contract
"yes", that they were American disks. The astronauts were angry at being out. Most of the contracts were awarded to firms on Long Island.
used as public relations men by the government.
So what did they actually prove that they could do when the experiments
Why spend so much money on the Stealth bomber when they have had were over?
this gravity technology for so many years?
What they essentially proved they could do was that they could control a
Well, the aircraft combines two aspects for invisibility. One of the person that they had the "signature" for. This pattern that was unique to
aspects relates to the construction and coating applied to the surface. The an individual could be put into the computer program for the transmitter.
other aspect relates to an electronic type of invisibility package which is A second order wavelength would be transmitted that has a lower
a result of work done on the Philadelphia experiment years ago. Also, attenuation and affects that persons mind directly. There could be a
the stealth has a secondary drive system which is very advanced and command to do anything focused at the person. Once a device was
allows it to fly in space. The assistant director of NASA admitted that constructed that illustrated this principle on a wide scale. A mental
this came straight out of alien technology. He admitted this to the public. message was put out that if anybody heard the message they were to call
a certain phone number. Over 600 calls came from all over the East coast
He did? all the way down to Florida. It works.

Yes. That's interesting. There's a fellow who calls himself Lord Mattreya who
says that he is the Christ returned to the planet; that when he links up
That's interesting in view of the government's apparent position with with the international press he will send a telepathic message to the
respect to covert technology. entire planet in their own language and they will hear it. They also are
supposed to receive a visual image. So.. they have that technology?
There are breaks in the government secrecy programs that are starting to
show up. More and more people are getting totally disgusted with Yes. There is not only an indivdual signature. There's a racial signature
government activities and attitudes and they are beginning to talk. and also a universal signal for the human race. The government has used
all three to target specific individuals. They have also done group
Maybe it's a deliberate leak. messages targeted on a specific racial or ethnic group. That's common.
In Boston and New York they were doing experiments on "mood
It could be deliberate. Even MJ-12 in 1984 was about to break some control" on the cities. Transmitters used no longer exist, but the
information to the public about ET's and UFOs. They decided not to technology does.
release it at that time. John Kennedy demanded that they release it
within one year. He also demanded that the CIA get out of the drug Do targeted individuals perceive what they are receiving as their own
business. They assassinated him. thought?

Have you found any resistance to what you have been coming out with? Yes.

No. The Navy keeps quiet, but I hear rumblings underground that they Is there any defense against that?
are definitely not pleased about it. The so-called .. martyrdom clause"
works in my favor. They know that I know why they can't touch me. If Yes and no. Theoretically no. This is what the government depends on.
they do, they know that there will be real problems in time and space Practically speaking, they can't get everyone, because some people are
because of it. There are two of us that are holding certain factors in naturally resistant, depending on their level of mental and psychic
stability. If anything is done to either of us, there could be a rip in development. Perhaps 5% of the population do not respond to these
hyperspace. The whole reality system will shift. I will give you one signals. If they get 95% coverage, they don't care about that 5%. That's
guess as to what it will most likely shift to: We won the second world what they have the riot squads and the concentration camps for. There is
war by a slim margin. German technology was way ahead of us. If the no defense unless you can interfere with that signal. Some people just
war had gone on another 30 days the Germans would have won it. They don't react.
had super weapons in production which they were ready to use. They
were so close to winning the war that Churchill and FDR were really So they transmit a thought signal?
worried about it. If the system shifts, it could shift to a parallel reality
where the Germans won the war. Not exactly. If you were put on an EEG, you would exhibit a certain
pattern of electrical responses. These can be recorded and they are
That's why the government doesn't dare kill either of you? unique to you. It can be recorded and stored and replicated on a
computer. If they can replicate your RNA/DNA pattern they've got you
Right. Because of what we were involved in, it might jeopardize our too - for life.
entire reality system.
You mentioned about concentration camps?
Could you explain how a closed time loop works?
Yes. They are all over the United States. There are three in Arizona
Well, one of the problems that has developed is that when you travel alone.
through time you cannot come back to the exact point of origin. It has to
be later than when you left. If you were to come back to the exact point So they can control us to the point where we'll just hand over our guns?
That's what they hope. It depends on how effective this equipment Any other mind control programs that you can mention?
becomes, how thoroughly installed it is everywhere, and whether or not
people can ferret this stuff out and render it inoperative before that time There was a project called Mindwreaker that would allow paralysis of
arrives. the mind. The aliens were heavily involved with that project. it produced
several neurological weapons, some of which are used on the B-1
How about the idea of a conflict between moral conscience and what the bomber, which also contains a lot of alien technology. At time, various
mental command tells you do to? alien species came and went out of AIL. There was one group called the
K-Group, which was short for the Kondrashkin. They had pale skin that
You don't have the option not to act as it says the way that equipment is had a slight greenish tint and almost no hair. They looked human, and
set up - if you are not aware enough to make a connection that it is not had to bleach their skin and wear wigs. They have been periodically
your thought. It does not negate choice, it just puts in a strong impluse or involved with covert projects since the 1940's.
command. Those people who responded by calling that number had no
idea what went through their heads. Some of this does require Where has AIL been located?
preconditioning to a response pattern.
In New York Stare, at Farmingdale, Deer Park and Long Island.
Could they be doing this over the media, like television and radio?
What is the current status of AIL?
Of course.
Well.. there were eight projects ongoing at AIL that also had to do with
You're suggesting a state of absoulte corruption. the development of weaponry against aliens. In 1989 the Orion group
discovered this and destroyed the projects. It can only be assumed that
Absolutely correct. Planned corruption. AIL still functions in other areas.

With this kind of technology, why do they need concentration camps? What other research goes on at Long Island?

Because there are always people that are resistant. Research on scalar weaponry, like the one that destroyed the Challenger.

I would think that they would annihilate them, not lock them up. The I thought the Challenger was destroyed by the Soviets using scalar
first step is the camps, where you can handle them easier, then you can weapons?
eliminate them en masse. You don't go down the streets shooting
everybody down. Once you're in the camps, they break you down No. The Soviets didn't do that. The oddity with the incidents as far as the
mentally. They're experts at that. Soviets were concerned was that they pulled their ships about 150 miles
out to sea before it happened. They were not the direct cause, which was
We think they're shipping guillotines in there for the people that don't a scalar weapon that they were trying to put into orbit and test. It
comply. They're looking for a slave labor force. That is what H.R. 4079 accumulated a charge while the Challenger was going up through the
is about that's in Congress now. It creates a slave labor force in the atmosphere and turned itself on. That is what destroyed the Challenger.
prison system, which will be privately owned. States will pay the private It might have been deliberate.
prison a fee in order to put their prisoner in there.
What was the ultimate power behind the Phoenix projects?
Yes.
Ultimately, the whole thing is manipulated by the Orion group. The
What are some of the other projects that relate to the capacity of factions expectation was that they could use mind control to take over the
operating within the United States Government and corporations to populace in the 1990's - no later than 1994 or 1995. They have also been
manipulate and control the population? doing genetic work in which they alter a human sperm and ovum to the
extent that all offspring will produce hybrids with new characteristics.
Well between 1977 and 1978 a project called Dreamscan came on line. It Humans will mate and create children with alien genetics. That's one
ceased in 1979. The goal of the project was to gain the technical ability step beyond the average abduction scenario. There are other things
to enter into an individuals mind in the dream state and cause his death. happening with the human race.
There was a movie called Dreamscape which showed what they
discovered they could do. The project was run by the Secret Government Like what?
and managed by the NSA. The purpose of the project was to provide for
a means of covert assassination. President Carter found out about it and Since 1947, there have been components of the 6th race incarnating on
had it stopped. The hardware is still intact and in storage. There have the planet. The 5th race was the Aryans. The 6th race humans are 100%
been attempts to put it back on line by various intelligence operations, telepathic - the secret government and the Orion group sees them as a
some of which are said to involve AT&T operatives. threat. They've been aware of it since 1942.

What else? Wasn't there a movie about something like that years ago?

Around 1987, a project called Moonscan started. It lasted into 1989 and Yes. I don't remember the name, but it came out in 1982. In that film,
involved positioning mind control equipment on the moon for use on the there was a drug that made babies that were 100% telepathic. This kind
population of earth. It, like the others, has clear connections to negative of thing has actually happened. There was a Canadian company that was
alien activity. producing a drug which turned out to do just that. This was between
1946 and 1947. It was removed from the market immediately, although
Who ran that one? its use continues privately. In the movie, the government had a way of
using electromagnetics to explode a persons head to get rid of them.
It was managed by an organization called Airborne Instrument
Laboratories (AIL), who have had other covert projects under their wing. Sounds like something they mught have developed at Montauk.
At the time, AIL was run by Eaton Corporation. It is now managed by
the Department of Defense as of 1988. There are three branches of AIL: It does, doesn't it?
Covert, Commercial, and Defense.
What is the current situation with aliens?
Somewhat mixed and confused. There has been a lot going on all around the fact that when a person is electronically maintained in a pre-orgastic
the planet. In September and October 1990 there was an alien group state in their nervous system, gateways unto the mind open up for mind
from some other dimension that was attempting to invade the planet. control to take hold. It is his most secret work as far as applications are
They took down all the zero-time generators all over the country. The involved. Reichs contact with alien species, his discoveries about life
FAA was especially affected. The rogue group was stopped by another energy and cancer, and the mind control applications are some of the
species. For many years, some factions of the Orion group depended on reasons why he was killed. This knowledge was combined with other
a ring of alien satellites that would sustain life functions. Those were knowledge, some of it alien in nature, and integrated into the work at
wiped out in November 1990 by the same group. Montauk and subsequent covert projects to subvert the people of the
United States and the world under an Orion based system.
So there are positive light forces out there that are seeking to balance
these negative activities by the Orion group? What are some of the ways they put people into this state?

Yes. I am not at liberty to tell you their identity. Well, there are these devices. Every psychiatric facility has them. For a
male, they attach electrodes to five points on the body (you can guess
Do you think that this group is related to those who flew over military what one of those points are) and turn the device on. It makes
nuclear silos and rendered the warheads inoperative? programming an individual really easy. It is devious, but a lot more
humane than the old electroshock therapy. The thing is, the device is
I don't know if they were involved, although I could ask. The nuclear being used for control instead of in a way that might benefit the
charade is another thing on a cultural level. The idea of nuclear war was individual.
eliminated a long long time ago by all major powers on Earth. The threat
of a nuclear winter and the fact that you can't detonate two nuclear What about the Philadelphia Experiment as related to aliens?
devices too close together in time stops them from doing it. I think a lot
of people are aware that the same forces that control the United States The Philadelphia Experiment was not an alien operation, as such, but
today are the same forces that supported the buildup of Nazi Germany what was the set-up was the date, August 12, 1943, because it had to be
and the Soviet Union and arranged for WWII and Vietnam. The public locked to the Phoenix project on August 12, 1983. The date was set by
has been lied to in so many areas since the early 1930's that they don't alien influence in order to cause a 40-year hole in hyperspace through
know what's going on. Most people still think that the Congress and the which large numbers of alien craft could enter this dimension. It worked,
President run the country and that they have Constitutional rights. but it didn't last long enough to give the aliens the maximum benefit of
the scenario. The order for the date came from a man in the White House
How about some interesting technology spin-offs from the Philadelphia who was directing certain aspects of the project.
experiment?
This man was one of the K-group and headed what was called the Psi-
Well, there are a lot of them in use by the CIA and the NSA, as well as corp. It was an alien intervention. This was scheduled to be a main
other corporate and government agencies. There is a portable unit that invasion from a different universe.
can render an individual invisible. The NSA is known to use those on a
fairly regular basis. There is also a UFO research based covert How about other types of aliens that were involved?
organization that is believed to have them?
Most of the other alien groups around, including the ones that had their
And what would that be? shipped sucked into hyperspace, were observers of what was going on,
not participants. Beyond the obvious fact that they were observing for
Well, its a super secret international organization that is funded by all themselves, there is insufficient data to determine whether they were
major governments. It performs research on aliens and alien technology, observing for anyone else.
coverup operations, and also does espionage. The group is negatively
oriented and is considered to have no positive attributes in relation to What about the alien ship, again, that was trapped underground at
other humans. It is called the International Aerospace Alliance. Montauk?

How does it fit into the hierarchy of command and control? I was part of the group that dismantled it. What is involved is that you
have to find out how everything goes together. You have to read their
It's connected to MJ-12, which is believed to be headed by Kissinger at manuals... there were seven occupants of that ship; four of them would
this time. It is also connected to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the not talk to us. Eventually, three of them did, and we learned their
President. AIL type units are also connected to the MJ group. language and deciphered their manuals about the construction and
maintenance of the ship...
I have heard a tape of Robert Lazar, the EG & G scientist, and others
who indicate that the highest clearance level is ULTRA. Is that it? They weren't Greys?

There is also BLACK LEVEL clearance. No. They were about 6 foot 5 inches tall. They were essentially human
in appearance. They had dark leathery skin. They had no hair. Where
What is involved with those little implants that are spheres? they came from we were not sure. We don't even know why they were
there, except perhaps to observe the test on August 12, 1943. When the
Those devices are about 3mm in size. They are called SBMCD's, or ship appeared in 1983 underground, we were initially concerned as to
Spherical Biological Monitoring and Control Devices. They represent an whether this ship represented some sort of "point man" for an invasion
organically enhanced synaptid processor powered by a micro-positron of some kind.
flow that controls or mimics the functions within the human nervous
system with micro relays that duplicate brain operation or engram Was there any weaponry aboard that craft?
patterns.
Not that I remember. The ship had a lot of strange devices on it. We took
What is the real story behind Wilhelm Reich? a lot of stuff apart. We took off part of the control panels, and
communications equipment. We decided not to touch the main power
Most people are familiar with Reichs brilliant work with bions, weather plant because we thought it might blow up if we fooled with it. We left
modification, cancer biopathy and other devices. Reichs work has been the food processing units intact. The ships drive systems were removed.
of interest to the National security Agency for some time, and it involves A lot of the ship was stripped down right to the shell. It was left that
way. called themselves the Leverons. There were those there from Antares
that were only observers. They looked like humans. There were
Why would they suspect an invasion? members of the Orion group there occasionally. The K-group had some
connection with the place, but I personally never saw any of them there.
Idon't know, except that there have been so many groups over the years Lastly, there were the inhabitants of that ship that was captured. The
trying to invade this planet. One wonders why they want to bother with Orion Confederation includes a lot of groups, including the Leverons.
this mud ball and its backward technology.
The Orion group is supposedly at war with a group called the Elohim.
John Lear suggests that the human race represents a gene pool. Would you say that is accurate?

That is one good possibility. Another one, and I get this from sources I Yes. This is happening. The Elohim group is a very old race, perhaps the
can't reveal at this moment, is that they are seeking certain rare earth oldest in the universe. At least its the oldest we know of.
elements they apparently can't find elsewhere.
Is there any particular species that has the greatest control over humans?
Robert Lazar mentioned a book that contained the history of earth and
that it said that humans were referred to as ..containers for souls" and The Orion group. They're the weasels in the background that manipulate
that souls could be traded in something like a barter system. everybody, including the Greys. The Orion group includes the various
reptilian species.
The aliens are doing it all the time.
Was the zero-time generator from alien sources?
They're trading in souls?
No. Tesla created the zero-time generator in the 1920's. It provided a
Yes. They were shuffling us around like we were cattle to them. very basic time reference which is actually locked to the center of our
galaxy. That's why they call it a zero time generator. Locking equipment
Property. What do you think of that concept as applied to humans? to that is the only way you can get some of these higher function
generators to work.
Well, it is mentioned that several races consider humans in some ways
similar to that. Whether it is the bodies or the souls that are considered The aliens use crystals quite a bit.
property, I don't know. It appears that they are concerned more with the
bodies, the genetics, and the capabilities of the human mind. The Yes. Crystals can store and modulate enormous amounts of energy.
capabilities of the human mind are virtually unlimited. That fascinates There was a crystal in the alien ship that ended up at Montauk that was
some species. about 18 inches long. Other factions of the alien group appeared in one
of the side tunnels off the main time tunnel and captured several of us,
Those aliens that were on that ship. What became of them? and wouldn't let us go unless one of us went back and got that crystal for
them. We did. The problem was is that we were in the time tunnel too
Out of the seven, four did not talk and three did talk to us. One of the long, because the time references the man I was with dissolved, and he
group that did not talk to us was evidently the captain of the ship. He began to age at the rate of about a day per hour. Within three days he
eventually killed the three that did talk to us. The four remaining aliens was dead.
were put into "deep freeze" by the people who were running the
underground at Montauk. I have no idea what they did with the other What are some of the ways the government became involved in time
three bodies. travel?

What happened to the craft? The Navy had the ability to use the time travel technology from about
1970 and developed full operational capability in 1973. They did do an
it's still there, as far as I know. It was a gold colored saucer about sixty experiment where they tried to go back and kill the father of the man
feet in diameter. It had a bulge on both the top and bottom. destined to be the head of the new One-World government. They did kill
his father, but it made no difference. They didn't understand why it didn't
In one of Linda Moulton Howe's books they had pictures of types of work. Robert Lazar was voicing the concept that time is quantitized or
alien writing. Were you ever able to determine the language they used? compartmentalized and that you can't change what has already happened
in terms of the past.
The language they were using was apparently that of the Greys. The
symbol that the Greys use a lot is the same symbol that the Trilateral Is the Navy tied in with the secret government?
Commission uses.
Small elements in the Navy are, but the Navy in general is not.
How big is the underground at Montauk?
So in the 1970's they were against what was going on and tried ways to
It's very large. It extends for miles, especially the 5th and 6th levels. stop it?
Almost all of it was constructed in the late 1920's or early 1930's. We
talked to one of the men who was one of the contractors who built it. It Yes. At Montauk we did succeed in changing the past, so I know it can
was built on government orders right after the depression started. It was be done, but it takes enormous amounts of power and more than just a
built in six levels. They covered the top over with earth. It's known time machine, but I won't get into that.
locally as "the hill". Its a huge base. There may still be some use of it.
Most of it is shut down. The power has been on for two years now, So the person who will be the head of the One World government is
single phase 220 volt. The elevator used ran on three-phase 440 volts, walking around and has no father?
and that has not been turned on, probably because they plugged all main
openings and the elevator shaft with concrete. Theoretically that is true.

How many different species of aliens are you aware of? How could this guy have come into existence?

Well, the Greys were not part of Montauk. By agreement they never That's a very good question. That's another one of the paradoxes of time.
went there. There were groups that were part of it, like a group who
Was this person already in existence before they went back and killed his How do you view that scenario, where the planetoid full of Orion
father? reptilians, or Draco, is coming here?

Yes. They assumed that he would disappear and cease to exist. Well, we monitored the signals coming from the planetoid. They were
coming in at around 25MHZ with twelve carriers spaced 50KHz apart.
Do you know who this individual is? The Orion group reptilians have twelve chakras, maybe that has
something to do with it.
No. Not by name.
Then this could be the part of the electronic signal that might even be
Is the One World government interested in longevity? It seems like all representative of their electronic life sustenance matrix?
these plans are on a long term basis. It would also seem like it would
take too long before those in control could really reap the benefits. Yes.

When you get to the level of the warped mentality of the world leaders It might well be necessary to set up transmitters of our own that would
that are controlled by the Orion group, you don't really know what their interfere with that kind of electromagnetic emanation.
goals are. They are totally dependent on a specific technology, including
time machines which are anchored in the 40 years time rift plus the Yes.
extensions in the time matrix which goes another 20 years. Time
machines are based in the technology that had its origin here within that How about the Orion genetics?
time period, and from what I understand as of 2003 they will suddenly
find that their time machines no longer function. It's very similar to that of humans. For a long time they were hoping to
crossbreed. It didn't work properly. That was one of the side issues of the
Why? Montauk-Phoenix project, to find ways of crossbreeding. They never did
fully solve the problems.
Because they were created on the basis of something which was
basically artificial - the rift in time. The function is based on the rift. So this is where the concept of twelfth density would come in?
Then its back to the drawing boards.
Yes. Probably. What they were hoping to do if they succeeded in
Have they constructed any concrete plans based on the rift that might crossbreeding humans and Orions was a silent invasion where they
disappear when the rift does? would take over humanity by crossbreeding and eliminate the humans
they didn't want. At that point, Orion souls would move into the
I don't know. I can't speak for the whole government. crossbred bodies and it would be complete. They would not need
electronic support systems to survive here, which consists of 12
Are any Orion based timetables involved in this? satellites.

Well, the Orions have their own ways of doing things. So how does this affect the world government plans, now that the Orion
group is temporarily gone?
Would they be dependent on this rift?
It changes the context of the system that backed up the One-World
No, but the Greys are somewhat dependent on it, having used it to get government. They were backed up by and expected support from the
here in large numbers. The Orion group itself is not here in a large Orion group. With the Orions out of the picture, they are on their own.
number.
How about the Greys?
They let others do the dirty work for them?
They're running around in circles. They are probably continuing with the
Yes. genetic work and the abductions but they are lacking all direction except
that which they already had established.
Do you get any particular feeling what things are like within the secret
government with respect to the groups of aliens? There was a recent abduction of woman in Seattle on December 3, 1990
where there were beings that looked human. They told them, however,
Well, they were panic stricken to get rid of the Greys. I don't know if that they weren't really human and allowed them to see their true form. It
they're that panic stricken any more, because I understand that the was a variant reptilian species they had never seen before. They asked
Orions are essentially gone, except for the mop-up squad, which have the abductees questions about their experiences with the Greys. The
their own life support systems. woman got the impression that the reptilian humanoids thought that the
Greys were going to far in their interactions with humans and that they
The general life support for the others was destroyed by another alien were looking into it. Any comment?
group in November 1990. They could not exist here without electronic
support from the ring of satellites they put up there ages ago. Almost all No data on that one.
of them packed up and left.
Well, since they were looking into Grey excesses in behavior, they
What is the nature of the electronic support? probably were an offshoot group and not anything to do with the Draco.

They cannot stand the vibrations of this planet. The Greys like it because They probably were an offshoot group. I have gotten the impression that
this planet is very much like their own home planet. not all the Orion Confederation is evil. There is a group within the Orion
Confederation that function as sort of overseers and they are apparently
How would all this relate to the idea that their is a planetoid coming into quite upset about what these Greys are doing, but apparently there is not
this system with a bunch of reptilians on it. Would they bring their own much they have been able to do about it. The basic heart of the Orion
electronic life support systems? Confederation that we have become familiar with is totally evil and self-
centered.
Yes. They can replace the satellites. They may well be back before long.
They basically want to take over the Earth?
Yes. They want to take Earth because of their desire for the planet as a 30 years.
staging base. They also desire the water and the minerals. There have
only been partial success of their cross breeding program. A few hybrids I don't know. Obviously they didn't think.
have survived. They essentially look human but have Orion genetics
within them. Or it wasn't them who were ultimately responsible. The only ones who
would have a long term anything to gain would be aliens, so it further
What's going on in Washington right now? indicates that ultimately there are negative off-planet forces that are
responsible. The aliens know about the changes.
They are up to their eyeballs in problems. They consider the thing with
Hussein in the Middle East as the least of their concerns. How did they spread the virus initially?

What are they concerned with? Through World Health Organization inoculations that were contaminated
with the virus. The first program was in black Africa in 1974 with the
They are concerned with AIDS and other, disease problems which are smallpox inoculations. They then went to Brazil and other Hispanic
coming to earth from space. There are currently two huge clouds of countries and did it there. In 1978, they laced the gamma globulin for the
amoeba-like creatures over the polar regions of the earth. These have Hepititus B vaccine because the homosexual population was the greatest
shown up periodically over the last ten years. NASA is working on this. consumer. That's why it showed up first in the United States in the
Every time they've been detected, all kinds of strange illnesses break out. homosexual population and why it was claimed to be a homosexual
They don't how they can stay alive and be in outer space. They're very disease. Nothing could be further from the truth, but it was something
concerned about that. The AIDS situation is so far advanced that it is the Evangelists took up quickly, saying that AIDS was "Gods curse on
considered to be a disaster. the homosexual". People didn't worry about it who weren't gay. The
people who planned this didn't figure on the ability of the virus to
How do you bounce that against the fact that AIDS was created at Fort mutate.
Detrick, Maryland? Are the aliens ultimately behind that as well?
It must taken someone with a really stupid mentality to do this.
I don't know. It's very possible. It originated on the orders of the World
Health Organization. I suppose you have to go back and see who was What kind of disturbances have appeared with each appearance of these
responsible for this diabolical plan within WHO to create a virus that amoeba-like clouds?
would destroy the human immune system. They found out that once it
was released that it mutated like crazy and there is no way to produce a Respiratory disturbances. It's been detected in the New York area and on
vaccine for it. The government does have a way to cure it, but they do the west coast. Details are scant, but they consider it a major problem. It
that on a pretty selective basis. The cure involves electromagnetics. affects the human system directly. It is also the mechanism behind the
There are also other means that have been discovered, but the influenza attacks in 1916 and 1917 that killed so many people.
government doesn't want the outside world to have it. Its part of the
population reduction program. It is possible that the ozone layer was deliberately affected in order to
allow this influence to come through?
Which is whose idea?
I don't know. The greenhouse affect is taking hold because of it.
Apparently it was a decision reached by the secret government. The final
decision was made in the White House in 1972 on the basis of a meeting Is there any particular alien species whom it would benefit if the earth
of world leaders under Nixon. A friend of mine got the notes from that. dried up and became desert?
He's now in prison, and he talked about it publicly in 1974. He said that
they had the meeting and agreed that the planet was overpopulated and Yes. The reptilians species might be good candidates.
that it had to be reduced. The decision was to reduce the population from
5 billion, which it was at that time, to 1 billion by the year 2000. They Where do the Greys come from originally?
were to use any and all means to do this. They believed that the earth
could only handle 1 billion inhabitants. Their problem was how to From outside our time/space continuum. The government does not fully
exterminate 80% of the world population in 30 years. They modified the understand where that is, since they don't trust a lot of their information
figure to be 2 billion by 2000, but the AIDS thing is going to take care of about them.
a good part of that for them. The latest figures coming out of Washington
indicate that Africa is now as good as doomed. In another ten years, 75% Do the Pleiadians use the gravity amplifier to fold time and space?
of Africa will be dead.
No. They have a hyperspacial drive system. They don't do it in the same
There have been recent figures to suggest that 92% of all babies born in way. They use velocity rather than folding.
Africa today have the virus.
Aren't they beneficial to humans?
Yes. in India, the rate is 51%.
They have not been invited to help. They are also sensitive to earth
It seems extremely irresponsible for a government to create something politics, galactic directives, and their own policies. It comes down to the
that can take people and do that to them. fact where you don't interfere when you're not asked. Even when you are
asked, there are limits to what you can do.
Well, it was the "undesirables" that were given the virus first.
Can they be asked?
They should have known that this thing was going to get out of hand.
Well, in the case where you would have interference on a mass basis,
They didn't know that was going to happen. It was also figured that it like in response to the Orion incursion, you're getting involved with the
would affect the young set, those in their prime, most. history of all humanity. We'll have to see.

if they travel in time and know that geophysical changes will take care I would think that the only hope would be to collectively raise the
of a large part of the world's population, why would they bother to do it? consciousness of the entire planet.
Especially because you have a bunch of 50 year old men having to wait
Right. There are also other problems. The government worked out a deal master pattern that would exist in the genes, so the duplicate is not
with the Greys some time ago and has some of their technology. exactly the same is time. So humans age gradually.
Weapons have been developed. They now have a missle that has a
minimum operational range of I light year. We can hit any spacecraft There has been some discussion of the biorhythm cycles of the planet.
well beyond the solar system. Could you explain that again?

I saw a brief on the news where the Star Wars technology is being turned The cycles of humans are well known. It was not known until after 1983
around in space to hit down asteroids. Will they in fact be used primarily after Montauk went down that the earth has cycles. It was discovered by
as a planetary defense against alien incursion? accident. After an analysis, it came out that there were four basic cycles
involved. These four cycles reach their maximum peak every 20 years.
Yes. The directives out of Washington seem to point to the fact that the It's always on the 12th of August.
secret government wants no aliens here at all interfering with their plans.
They have not solved the problem with the Greys. So the next peak will be in 2003?

How do aliens refer to religious concepts? Yes.

As far as I know, none of them have any religion as such. They Do the biorhythm cycles of humans and those of the planet interlock'?
acknowledge a divine source in the universe. The Greys refer to the
universe as a mind. It is not known to interlock.

What is your prognosis for the future of the human species? Have you seen the movie Milleneum? What can you say about the
concepts portrayed there?
It will survive.
Yes. It was well done. It was an attempt to explain some disappearances.
Why was it mentioned at one time that 2011 was the last year that they It's an intriguing idea. Strangely enough, they didn't cover something
could see anything tangible? that really happend in Denver around 1965. A jet was coming in on final
approach in daylight with no bad weather and vanished entirely from the
It was mentioned in the Mayan calendar that 2011-2013 was a barrier of radar screen. It was never found. No trace. Years later, in Tucson, I met
some kind. Psychics have said that there is a 'barrier around 2013 that the son of a man who was vice president of United Airlines. I asked him
they can't go through. about it. He said, "how did you hear about that?". I said I read it in the
newspapers and then it was hushed up. He said, .. you better believe it
That doesn't mean there is nothing beyond that. was". I asked him if anyone knew what happened to it, and he said that
they had no idea. There was no wreckage, nothing. There is no way it
No. It's just blocked from view. Even to the time machines. There are a could have happened like that.- but it did. The ideas in Millenium were
lot of people wondering whether they are going to retain control over more along the line of something they would have developed in the
humanity beyond 2013. Phoenix project.

There seems to be a quickening of consciousness right now as we are Are there any tunnels under the Pyramids?
beginning to go into fourth density.
There is a tunnel under Giza. No one knows when it was constructed or
Right. There seems to be some evidence of this. how.

Do you know where the current entrances to Montauk are? How about spacecraft or anything else like that?

No, but I know they're there. The last time two people went out there to An expedition was mounted as a result of data gathered back in the
look they were abducted. They were knocked out electronically and 1920's and 1930's about a secret chamber under the pyramid. They built
taken underground to another facility where mental adjustments were equipment in later years and went in down into the pyramid and found
made on them. They were returned to the spot, but one of them was not this metal door 500 feet below the base of the pyramid. They found other
returned exactly at the same time as the other. There was about a 2 doors. The doors used a sonic code. They found a room with over 30,000
second gap and the one that was already there saw it. They knew recording disks and alien equipment. They made photos of the disks with
immediately that something was wrong. They were given a warning. The IR film. The Egyptian government wouldn't allow them to take any out.
underground system is still in operation. There are three entrances near The disks were deciphered. They described the rise and fall of
AIL. They have three plants in the Farmingdale area. Brookhaven civilizations in outer space going back more than 100,000 years. This
National Laboratories have an entrance to the system. There is also a group built this record room and then built the pyramid over it. There
connection to the Newark ITT Corporation building. From there a spur was no UFO, but a lot of equipment was stored on three levels. They
that goes to the ITT facility at Nutley. There is also a tunnel that goes photographed over 2,700 record disks. According to an Air Force
from Newark to Wright Patterson AFB. contact, these disks are sitting in a safe at Kirtland AFB in New Mexico.
They don't want the public to know the information.
Do they use Maglev trains in this tunnels?
How is the government involved in cattle mutilations?
Yes. There is a very extensive tunnel network under the United States.
The interesting things is that once you get past the coding system at the Human scientists are involved with longevity studies using adrenalyn.
entrance elevators and get into the underground, nobody asks any They have developed altered adrenlyn, and drugs called cordrazine,
questions. They assume you are supposed to be there, unless you make it cortropinex, formazine, and hyronalix. All of them have an adrenalyn
obvious that you are not by your actions or appearance. base. The only way to get the large quantitites of adrenalyn is to get
them from cattle. Some of the substances they develop affect psychic
Why do humans age? development. Other drugs have physical restoration properties. Aliens
use cattle for the biological materials as well. They use the materials in
There are two genes missing from the human chromosome. One of them their breeding program and for the construction of cloned individuals.
controls the aging process, so humans age. Because of this, when cells
are duplicated in the body they are compared to the parent cell, not a Do you know when the Federal Reserve is going to issue the new
money? Recently, we received information that these two groups of entities are
originally from one source out there somewhere, and that they were
I don't know. There have been several dates that have come and gone. banned to this planet to work out their differences. They have apparently
When they do all the current cash will be worthless. always sought to destroy each other ... and they are still doing it on many
levels. Everyone else just has to stand by and put up with it, I guess. it
The plan is to give a short notice date by which people will have to turn just adds to the mess. Orientation of both groups appears to be
in their old money for new. Of course, you will have to account for it, negatively oriented toward service to self instead of others. There have
especially since it is now illegal for you to have $3,000 or more on your been things recently said by abductees that indicate that they were taken
person. It's coming. to joint Nazi-Alien bases were they had swastikas on the walls. This was
within the last two years.
Would you consider the secret government the Fourth Reich?
Do you remember the Reinhold-Schmidt story? He was a businessman
It's hard to say. My understanding of it is that the secret government is who lived in New Jersey in the 1950's. I finally got a copy of his book.
not connected with the Nazis but with world bankers, old money and He insisted that one time when he was driving home from work,
what's called the "black nobility". These were the blue-bloods of Europe. something went wrong with his car. He was approached by someone and
They actually did have blue blood, and it was not hemoglobin based but was taken aboard a saucer. All the occupants were dressed in black
copper based. They were semi-human. There are still to this day, some clothing and talked in German. To him it appeared like they might be
animal species in South America that have copper based blood systems. Nazis. He wasn't sure but he thought they were. They picked him up by
There was a problem with hemophilia, and not because of intermarrying. agreement several times thereafter. He began talking about it and he had
The problem was that they started to marry outside of the copper based a visit from government agents who told him to shut up. He insisted. He
blood system. Hemoglobin and copper systems don't mix. That's where was picked up and put into treatment in a mental hospital for about four
the laws against marrying commoners originated. months. When he came out he was a changed man. He died sometime
later. Up until he went into the mental hospital, he was insistent on his
What about these synthetic humans? story. This was approximately 1956. I'm not sure. He was a prominent
businessman. It was a sensational story at the time.
Human cloning was developed at the University of Utah at Salt Lake
City in 1977. They first aired this on TV as part of a series. They had an It's interesting that you should mention copper based blood before.
alleged human clone on TV that they were interviewing. It didn't talk Aren't the Nordics involved with that?
very well. They showed the original human and the clone. The clone was
not all that successful. It took 14 months to generate a fully adult human Yes. Although Nordics are humanoid and externally almost identical to
clone in a tank. It was a two part series. The second part of the series humans. There are subtle differences in the Nordic alien physiology, and
never aired, for obvious reasons. CIA sources have confirmed that it most of them are based on the living conditions that they have grown up
started at the University of Utah. The government has a facility for in. Their planets are extremely hot and dry, and have a low oxygen
clones. The first one was built in the Mount Hood area, about sixty miles content in the atmosphere. They have a larger lung capacity than humans
east of Portland, Oregon. They have other facilities in other locations. and have a copper based blood in order to carry oxygen more efficiently.
Locations must have stable geomagnetic fields and other special The eyes are protected by inner lids and can allow them to see into the
characteristics or the cloning process does not work properly. They can ultraviolet range of the spectrum. They have only 28 teeth, as they lack a
replicate them faster now. They have clones of all the major government back pair of molars. Their heads are longer than humans. The brain case
figures. This is partly for security reasons. it also creates the situation is about .2 mm thicker and the bone is harder. The brain is the same as
that when someone falls out of favor, they clone the person and kill the the human brain as far as structure and size is concerned, except for the
original. This kind of thing apparently happens with some frequency. midbrain area, where there are functions that allow telepathic and
telekinetic skills. It explains the psionic powers of the Nordics. They
There have been allegations by some that Carter and Reagan were average about 2 meters in height. Females about 1.7 meters. They have
replaced. no sweat glands. The skin allows moisture to be drawn from the air as
well as moisture to penetrate. The heart beats at around 242 beats per
Yes. I've heard that, but I have no information that says that it happened. minute, and the average blood pressure is 80 systolic and 40 diastolic.
Reagan looked a bit funny after his assassination attempt, particularly They have extremely dilated blood vessels. The heart is located where
after he came out of the hospital. the human liver would be. The cartilage that would protect a human
heart extends down 3.5cm further in the Nordic in order to protect this
It's curious about the cloning facility in Portland. Were there not reports structure. Blood cells are biconvex in contrast to the concave cells of
in the 1960's or 70's about people seeing a spitting image of Hitler there? humans. Kidney type functions only allow about half the liquid
consumed to be excreted. The rest is evidently put back into the system.
Yes. it is curious. There isn't any connection that we can establish, but Urine is thick with minerals and appears in color and texture to freshly
anything is possible. Hitler could have died as late as 1984. I have heard pumped crude oil. Feces are dry pellets with all moisture removed. The
rumors that he was the top director of the Phoenix project, but those adult Nordic can regulate the amount of adrenalyn in their body. They
rumors were not considered to have any merit by most people. Eichmann have no pineal gland. Nordic females are capable of being impregnated
was apparently involved at one point until the Israelis got him. A lot of at any time, but the males are capable of impregnation about once a year.
top level Nazi scientists were involved. There was a man called The period of incubation is three to five months.
Huntermann who was the associate director of the project. We wondered
if there was anybody above him. There was - a complete collection of What about the Sirians?
pure Nazis at the top. The Germans were also involved in work with the
Greys and cloning processes. Well, we are finding out that they are seemingly involved in the Dark
Side activities with abductees along with the Greys and elements of the
Are they Nazis still running things? US military and intelligence forces. we are finding out that Reich
programming is currently being used as of December 1990 on abductees.
Idon't know what interconnections they may have today. I have two This is a direct outgrowth of work at Montauk. The Sirians are usually
friends who say opposite things. one says that the Nazis are in charge described as about 6 &frac12; feet tall, blond hair cut very short, and
and the other says that Jewish scientists are in charge. Other people say blue eyes that have a cat's eye vertical pupil. They're negatively oriented.
its MJ-12. Take your pick. I think that they're all involved. I have been working on a case where this 21 year old woman has had
contact with them, the last time being in December 1990. The beings
That's very interesting about the duality of the Germans and the Jews. present were the short little helpers that the Greys use; the ones that wear
hooded cloaks. There were Grey clones, tall Greys, Sirians and US situation. January 15th is the apparent deadline date. There are people in
military personnel of some description. The woman had her breasts and government that are crazier than Hussein. As of early December 1990, a
other body parts hooked up to some machine that maintained her in a contract already exists with Flora Construction company to rebuild
pre-orgastic state while they used inculcation bars with red and blue Kuwait, so its going to happen anyway.
lights to aid in the programming. When she does something they don't
like, they take her out of her body and stick her in this black box, where Does Iraq have nuclear devices?
there is terrible loneliness and isolation. She really broke down when she
was describing that, saying that she didn't want them to put her back in I'm not sure. They were stealing trigger devices for quite a while before
the box. They evidently told her that if she talked too much they were the government found out about it and started substituting non-
going to do that. On the lighter side, she has also had contact with functional ones. It's believed that they do. The Iraqis are also said to
positive groups. There has been some discussion as to whether these have devices that had their origin in Nazi Germany, such as the air-fuel
negative Sirians are part of the Kamagol II group that built the records bomb, which will "turn the air to fire" and suffocate American troops.
chamber under Gizeh, but that has not been established. The negative There is a concern that he will also use chemical weapons. The United
Sirians are considered part of the Orion group that is playing the States used chemical weapons in Korea and Vietnam. If Iraq uses them,
domination/control game. the United States will respond with devastating force. It would be a good
time for the secret government to bring out their disks and impersonate
Is there some significance to the red and blue lights in the inculcation alien species in an attempt to pacify the planet. When the United States
bar? wins the conflict, it will produce potential problems for years.

The lights on the bar are of special frequencies. Pulsing of these lights is It is seen as the only option. They could impose this in a pseudo-
often combined with sonic patterns to virtually reprogram the mind of religious way in an attempt to unify religious groups that are on "holy
the individual. This kind of activity has been going on for tens of war" campaigns. Either way, presence of .. an apparently benevolent
thousands of years. Why do you think that the Orion based groups that technology" would cause a peaceful unification. Presence of "an
control todays society use red and blue on police car lights? Its very apparent malevolent technology" would achieve the same thing, but with
restimulative and many people have buried memories of programming a negative unification based on fear. There are again another aspects to
sessions that have occurred through their various lives. The result is fear the middle east scenarios. One aspect is that the middle east represents
and negative emotional response. It appears that during the last 40 years an annoying delay to the secret government that has been caused by Iraq.
there have been a lot of people that have been incarnating that were on This delay could affect certain types of agenda. Another aspect is that
one side or the other in Nazi Germany, and we are finding a lot of since the US basically controls the planet, all this is a sham for the
abductees that have memories of the Greys during that period. public - to keep humans up tight, in fear, and at each others' throats it
Sometimes they find that they are dealing with the same exact beings could be reflective of what is ultimately an Orion based agenda. It is a
they dealt with in another lifetime. Of course, we know that abductions matter of record that flying disks have been seen in all wars and
also follow multi-generational patterns. It all ties together. conflicts.

There have been some that have said that Hitler was connected into How about the Congress? Are they aware of the alien and drug things
things in terms of the Aryan race and ET's. What is the story behind that are going on?
that?
Some of them are, but they are turning their heads because they want to
Well, Hitler spend a lot of time in libraries before his mother died, and collect their retirement. They're just hoping the government will be
he was convinced that the white race was going to be squeezed out of solvent when they get to that point. There is no question that as we enter
existence in anoth&r 75 years. He decided that he was going to be the 1991, many agendas will accelerate and many hands will be forced.
defender of the Aryan race. This was back before World War One. He
was also relating this to the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Are the men in black residents of Earth?
where in the 24th protocol it says that the white race will be destroyed
by genetic inter-marriage. He wanted to stop the trend. He became The group is an off-world one. They monitor conditions on the planet.
interested in metaphysics. The Dark Side involvement began after a bout They are not physical beings, but they can become solid.
with peyote before World War One and his involvement with the Thule
Society, which was connected to Aleister Crowley and the Order of the Do the black helicopters have anything to do with the MIB?
Golden Dawn in England. Hitler also adopted the idea of fighting the
communists, because the communists were just about ready to take over No. They are managed by the Army. It is a super secret group that have
Germany. There were not Greys around in large numbers but they were bases all over the United States. They have one near Sedona. They have
there. The Germans were involved with alien technology. They had one one in Connecticutt and in Newark, New Jersey. The helicopters have no
version with electromagnetic drive. They had jet aircraft in 1943. They markings and are used for operations involving drug smuggling,
had nuclear weapons but Hitler did not use them. Mind control research mutilations and security for alien related operations and projects.
was ongoing. Obviously, it's all illegal as hell, and they have been getting away with it
for 40 years.
Getting back to present day, what do you think about the idea that the
Saudi government is being bankrupted by the US? What about the subliminal programming that happens with television?

Well, the Rockefeller group sold the Saudis 30 year notes back in the The FCC "ruled" years ago that it was illegal, but it never stopped. You
1960's. They are coming due. The Saudis want to get out of the find it more common on cable tv. There are using subliminal
paperwork nightmare so they won't lose all their money. The Rockefeller conditioning on all cable networks. They use it to emphasize different
banks were going to declare bankruptcy, so the Saudis said they would elements of what you are seeing around you. People end up being
pull all their investments out of the United States and collapse the brainwashed and stay ignorant.
economy totally. The United States backed down and that is the reason
why there is all that forgiveness of debt business going on. It was done What are some of the capabilities they have?
with Bushes authority. The Saudis were satisfied. Now the problem with
Iraq arises. The Israelis have refused to carry out the deals they have The government has vans that drive around that are capable of complete
made about leaving the west bank area. Hussein is saying that if the mind disruption. They have used it before to kill a man in his house in
United States can convince Israel to do that for the Palestinians, then he fifteen minutes. All it takes is four helicopters flying in tandem to
will walk out of Kuwait. That will defuse the entire Middle East completely mentally wreck a city if they have those pods on them. The
pods are an outgrowth of the Phoenix project. They, can produce heavy complex is the relative lack of distortion.
mood control over a city. They are going into areas beyond the
electromagnetic. They are trying to increase the,stress level in the What does polarization mean for an individual entity?
population. It is no secret that Bechtel was laying cables under major
metropolitan areas several years-ago,claiming that it was being laid for Generally, entities can have little or no polarization, positive polarization
others" whom they wouldn't reveal. It had nothing to do with electric, or negative polarization. A positively polarized entity will select a path
telephone or cable TV. embodying service to others. An entity choosing negative polarization
would focus on service to self. A negative polarization involves the
What is another possibility as to why the death of the father of the One elements of control and repression. For example, a negatively polarized
World government failed to produce the dematerialization of the future entity would seek separation from and control over others by sexual
leader of the One World government? means and have the idea of power as an end. The negatively oriented
entity will program for maximum separation from and control over all
This seeming paradox can be better explained this way: The people who entities which it perceives as being other than itself.
went back and tried to kill the father were successful but the son still
lived. This is all related to the Grandfather Paradox. The truth of the Are not all humans, for example, expressions of each other?
matter is that they prevented the birth of the leader of the One World
government not in the time stream where the existing person was born Well, yes. Entities will eventually realize that their actions on other
but in a parallel one where he never existed in the first place. It existed selves are actually being done to themselves, since the consciousness
before and after the effort to kill the father; the parallel time stream also present in each entity is a variation on the same thing. The individuation
exists where the Germans overtly won the second world war. There are is present to allow maximum differentiation of potentiality and creation.
differing but parallel interrelated worlds and universes, each having an
endless number of streams relating to individual entities. These streams Many people have been discussing the idea that we are going into fourth
are ultimately expressed as different patterns and outcomes for the same density. What does that mean?
entity depending on the level of expression for the entity at any one time.
All divergent entities are part of the one reality which is the all Basically another general vibratory rate. It also relates to the realization
embracing unity. The varied potential tracks all exist as one unified that one is not separate from the creator. It is that kind of spectrum
central force. The parallel tracks that exist in our universe, depending which has been called by the Christians as the "second coming". The
upon which one of them is taken, will determine the ultimate outcome second coming is a state of being, not an individual arriving and
for the individual entity, and this can change. establishing a power hierarchy.

What is the actual nature and purpose of the Orion group? When will this be completed?

Basically, the purpose of the Orion group is enslavement and conquest. Well, entities on this planet should make the attempt to polarize in terms
Their objective is to locate certain individuals who vibrate in resonance of what excites them no later than 1993, or it will be harder to do so.
with their own vibrational complex and manipulate them. There is a Polarization can be positive or negative. Generally, the fourth density is
concept called spiritual entropy which apparently causes them to much more full of life. Entities must still care for their physical vehicles.
experience constant disintegration of their social memory complexes. It is also a density where compassion, understanding and love are more
They do follow the Law of One but observe free will according to predominant. Full conversion to fourth density will occur between 2003
service to self. Those on the enslaved planet then disseminate the and 2013.
attitudes and philosophy which is service to self. These individuals
become the "elite". Through the elite, the attempt begins to create a Its interesting that according to the mathematics behind the I Ching,
condition whereby the remainder of the planetary entities are enslaved everything goes jackpot around 2012.
by their free will.
Yes. Nothing will be the same on Earth. It is changing right now. What
That seems like what is happening on the planet right now, especially in we are seeing is basically the death of the third density way of life.
the United States.
Does density level refer to polarization?
Yes.
An entity can be negatively polarized and in fourth density, but it is an
Why don't they just come down in force instead of using the back door, intense struggle because of the development of telepathic functions. If
as it were? there is a place in which fourth density negative entities have established
a power structure, then there is more use of the concept of mind control
Well, they could. A mass landing would create a loss of polarization due in order to keep the negative structure from conversion to positive
to the infringement on the free will of the planet. If the planet were then orientation.
conquered and became part of the Empire, the free will would then be
reestablished. The way they are doing it is characteristic of the Orion What about the upcoming geological changes? How does that relate to
group - to have others do their dirty work for them, including humans. all of this?
That way, the abridgement of free will is not so obvious. It didn't help
the situation when agreements were made with different alien species. It The fourth density is a vibrational spectrum. The time/space continuum
didn't matter that the agreements were made with groupings of humans has put Earth and that star system into that type of vibration. This causes
that did not represent the wishes of the mass consciousness. The electromagnetic realignments within the body of the planet. The energies
technical fact of the agreement allowed a lot of action that was and collective thoughtforms of the population also disturb the energy
negatively polarized. The Orion group specifically targets civilizations patterns of the planet. Geological changes accompany transition between
before they become a social memory complex. densities. At this point we are in the last 20 years at the end of a cycle
which has lasted 75,000 years.
What does it mean to have a society with a social memory?
Anything more about fourth density?
Well, a social complex consisting of individual entities becomes a social
memory complex when it adopts one orientation or seeking in a specific The majority of the Orion group are of fourth density. Some are
direction. When this happens, the group memory that was not available positively oriented toward service to others, but most that are concerned
to individuals becomes known. The advantage of a social memory with the current situation are negatively polarized and playing the
domination game. Entities on Earth following any religion or no religion SS: I have a basic question which might be a good starting off point.
at all will move into fourth density if they are that vibration. Entities not Could you give me a thumb-nail sketch of how you make a battleship
at fourth density vibration will remain at third density vibration and will disappear? I know it takes generators ... now what do you do?
move to other locations to continue third density life until their
vibrational level increases and polarizes in time with a cycle of density AB: A thumb-nail sketch is you have to distort the normal time field. In
movement. The polarization can be positive or negative. the case of what they were doing, they were rotating the time field in
which the ship itself sat. If you rotate it at about 45 degrees it becomes
How does the idea of a higher self relate to densities? invisible, if you rotate it 90 degrees it drops out of our reality and that's
not what they wanted to do.
In terms of an entity perceiving through as linear time structure, the
higher self exists in sixth density and functions in the entites "future". The basic technique, just in thumb-nail, is that you rotate the time field.
One interesting aspect of it is that the entity who is perceiving the higher Consequently radar signals will pass right through it like it doesn't exist.
self manifestation is actually a thoughtform materialized by the "higher If you rotate it far enough, optically it doesn't exist. It would not be
self" itself. Entities in these terms are actually a complex composed of visible to the eye under normal observation.
what they perceive to be mind", "body", and "spirit". These complexes
can occur within single entities or groups, depending on the specific SS: What is the time field?
space/time conditions. The higher self is that self which exists with full
understanding of the accumulation of experiences of that entity. At one AB: The time field is an extension of our physical reality. According to
point, the entity perceives a lower self and a higher self. They are not Einstein it is a physical dimension. In other words it's the fourth
actually there "simultaneously"; functions of the higher self interact dimension.
from a position in development which equates to the linear "future" of
the entity, as perceived by an entity in this state. Obviously, cultural SS: And can be moved?
conditioning encourages development of impotent states of mind where
the "lower self" is in control and the "higher self" is reached very little or AB: It can be manipulated, let's put it that way. It can be interfaced, it
totally ignored. There is no synthesis that will permit the energy of the can be manipulated. You can do things with it. Consequently you do
intelligent matrix to flow correctly. things with whatever is in that area of field that you're manipulating.

How are the cultural states of mind organized? How do they fill the SS: Are you moving it with magnets?
needs of the Orion group and the Brotherhood?
Ab: You're moving it with electromagnetic fields and R.F. fields,
Well, start with the prime factor of body identification. The society however the means of modulation of those fields are such that it
promotes the concept of "you are your body", which results in fear, generates higher order fields. In other words, you're not going to affect
especially fear of "death", which is tied in with the idea of physical pain. the time fields with a plain, ordinary electromagnetic radiation.
Combine this with religious doctrine and various cultural ideologies, and
you have a very fertile ground for manipulation. There is also promotion SS: What's an R.F. field?
of identification with the personality and ego. The ego is culturally
conditioned to a reactionary state which is encouraged by media and AB: Radio Frequency. The same thing as a radio of TV or whatever.
literature to focus on the elements of security, sensation and power.
Under these circumstances, individuals are basically disempowered and SS: So it takes a combination of the two.
blind. In terms of cultural activity, individuals are put in a position where
they spend most of their time dealing with "self preservation", "self- R.F. field interacting in a certain manner and with additional equipment
gratification", and "self-definition". These functions are basically left to produce higher order fields which will rotate the time field.
hemisphere related. The ego structure often becomes fragmented into
"partial selves", making the problem even worse. What is missing is the SS: If an object or a person is either brought forward or backward
love of truth, life, and the creator that we are all a part of. The idea is to through a time tunnel, doesn't this create a "paradox" because of the
transform "self-preservation" into right action, .. self-gratification" into object not belonging to that particular time?
right feeling, and "self-definition" into right thought. This is not
probable in the Orion based culture in which we reside if the missing AB: Yes, you do.
elements are not introduced. What will help to introduce it is the
quickening of the vibrational resonance as we move into the fourth SS: Was that a problem?
density, and what we are seeing around us is the desperation of the
negative forces as they grapple for position and control. The alien AB: No it w as not a problem, so far as I know. I can only speak about
agendas are beyond secret government manipulation, and at this time Montauk. They regularly sent people through the time tunnels and
they are very worried. That is why the mind control technology has been brought them back. They did send some objects through the time tunnels
developed and implemented - to make sure that they can try and preserve with no intention of bringing them back at that time. Sort of like storage
control over the population. at a distance. I understand from what Dr. Herman Entenman said, was
that on some of those occasions they lost what they sent out because the
Thanks to the publication "The Sovereign Scribe", we are following this tunnel collapsed due to failure of the equipment. So the tunnel collapses
section with some interviews with Al Bielek and Preston Nichols; the and disintegrates. Whatever is out there is just atoms lost in eternity, so
material relates very well to the data that you have just read. It features to speak. But other than that, no, they had no problems in sending
some interesting data about the alleged United States ventures on Mars something out and later retrieving it, whether it was a person or an
and more data about the Delta-T antennas. Enjoy! object.

Interview with Al Bielek The real problem came when you made deliberate attempts, which were
done, to alter the past history and alter what happened to certain people.
AB: Alfred Bielek That had an inroad effect on me. Something was done involving an alien
SS: Sovereign Scribe that was shipped backwards in time; roughly 100,000 years ago. And
TC: Tracy Cooper also to my brother, I'm not sure what the time period was. I would
DG: Danielle Graham estimate from what he said, about 12,000 years ago, maybe less, wherein
something from a more recent time was forced back upon him and
(Date unknown; Source: Matrix III) changed his whole nature.
SS: Where did the writers of the movie The Philadelphia Experiment get just beginning to come into view. The whole thing was a setup.
their information?
SS: What tipped you off that it was an alien setup?
AB: That is a very long and interesting story. I wondered about that
myself and we assumed, for a period of time, that that information came AB: Finally getting some data on Roosevelt's agreements, where he
in mostly as speculation on the pan of the actual producer. I know who it signed an agreement with the aliens in 1934. I started looking in on this
is, but his name does not appear on the credits and he doesn't want his and it started to make some kind of sense.
name known. But he asked Preston (Nichols) over a period of time from
1982 to 1983 a lot of questions about the Philadelphia Experiment, and The Pleiadians were turned down in 1953 again when they insisted one
Preston knew quite a bit about it, at that time, he finally admitted it, and of the points they required if they were to work out a deal with the US.
answered this guy's 1001 questions, as it were. And this guy became the Government was that they must scrap all their nuclear weapons. Well the
actual director of the film. We assumed that he expanded with his own US. government was just not ready to do that, not in 1953. So they were
speculation on this because some of it in there is not true, but it was turned down politely and along came the greys and they made an
based largely on Preston's information and his own expansion on it. agreement with them.

Turns out that wasn't the case at all. We did a lecture in New York in But again back in 1933 was Roosevelt's agreement with the "K's" and
1989. Preston, Duncan and myself were invited to talk about the Phoenix because of that in 1934 the Pleiadians went over to Nazi Germany and
Project and the Philadelphia Experiment, which we did. Officially it was worked something out with them. But there you had across the Atlantic
not video taped, but it privately it was. A copy of this thing somehow two powers which were getting ready to fight each other. There was one
wound up over in England and got to EMI Thorn and got to someone in ET-group on one side of the Atlantic passing us technical information,
archives. it's going to be fairly obvious that it's very likely that there's going to be
another one on the other side of the Atlantic feeding information to try
Well, they came to New York and looked up Preston. They found and keep some kind of a balance, particularly one of them was
Preston's address and came to his home one evening and said, "We've concerned with the survival of a major segment of the human race.
finally found you." Preston says, "What do you mean?" He says, 'Well
we've been looking for you for quite a while. You're the fourth man in I finally got confirmation from a number of people. The original
the picture." confirmation, I understand there are hard copy notes on this, comes from
Billy Meyers in Switzerland.
Preston says, "What picture are you talking about?" He showed him a
photograph of a family portrait that was made in 1890 of the Thorn TC: What does E=MC2C2 light reciprocal mean?
brothers of Thorn Industries. One of the backers of the organization was
none other than Aliester Crowley and this fourth person who was AB: That would be C to the 4th. That does not have meaning other than
apparently a bit older. The fourth person was identical to Preston except that would rotate you into one of these hyperspacial locations which is C
he looked approximately 10 years older than Preston looked, say a year to the 4th and you would be out of the electromagnetic and you would
ago. And they knew that this fourth person was important and Crowley pass into one of the etheric domains.
insisted at that time that this man was not of their time, meaning the time
of 1890. He was out of the future, and this guy gave him the whole TC: Would it be accurate to say that when they made the Eldridge
history of the boat experiment and it had been in the archives of EMI disappear what they do is just rotate it into another dimension?
Thorn since 1890.
AB: That's what happened but that's not what was intended. What was
It was some time in the 60's or 70's EMI Corporation and Thorn intended was to rotate the time field so that there would be no reflections
Industries merged and they decided to do a movie. The decision to start of either light energy or electromagnetic energy which is essentially the
it was in 1983 and they came to the US. to do the filming. But they said same as a matter of the frequency.
that they had the actual record of the experiment in their archives since
1890. TC: So they isolated the time dimension.

SS: And you're saying Preston brought it back? AB: Yes, and rotated it and that was all they woe intending to do. But
that of course is not all that happened.
AB: Preston brought it back according to the statement made by
Crowley at that time and according to the records in the archives. TC: They ended up rotating the entire...

SS: We'd like to clarify some things from the presentation. How old are AB: ... localized field around the ship.
you now?
TC: How can you begin to understand that?
AB: By my birth certificate 63. By adding the additional years when I
was actually born I would be 73. In terms of real time not counting age AB: Because I not only had all the physics training then but also the
regression I'd be 63 plus 30 which is 93 plus the time I spent on various specialized training which came from von Neumann because he
secret government projects such as the Phoenix Project where they were understood it. At the time when you graduate from the standard physics
doing the right brain / left brain split type thing, a sort of conjugate course even at the best universities today, even a Ph.D., you don't really
personality thing. They do this now to get you to work on two different know what's going on because that's information that's withheld. An
projects at two identical times practically as two different people. understanding comes later. All that is a basis for laying the groundwork
for understanding. The real understanding of what's happening has to
SS: So you've lived over 93 years in a 63 year old body? come from private tutoring. This is why the Illuminati has survived so
long because there is a hard basis of knowledge there, as well as ability.
AB: yes. But von Neumann had figured it out, along with Hilbert, and his
interface with Hilbert and perhaps Einstein and Levinson.
SS: Were you speculating that the Philadelphia Experiment was a set up
by the aliens? TC: What would you say to a person who had a physics background who
wants to have a deeper understanding, how would they pin it?
AB: It very definitely was a set up. Right now it is very definite. There
was speculation a couple of months ago 'cause some of the pieces were AB: How? Hmmm. You would have to study currently some of the
literature and information put out by Tom Bearden, for one example. But been back through that experience and dead. Things would have been
you have ,to be careful also about Tom Beardon because he also puts out different. Whether or not they would have been better is a wild
some disinformation. You have to filter it very carefully. He does put out speculation, and strictly speculation. But it definitely would have been
some good information but every so often he puts a corkscrew in there, different. I was not in a position to really anticipate what he was going to
and that's particularly true in some of his reference to the weather do. He gave no warning he was going to do it. The movie says
control generated by the Russians. It's not. We have our own. And some otherwise, but of course the movie has a lot of speculation in it that he
of the other things, some of the other basic physics which refers to the planned to go back because of his girlfriend. Well there was no girlfriend
bouncing electron in the atomic shell that's real for a period of time and in the other end, in fact, it was a disaster for him.
then virtual for a period of time. Well that aspect's correct. But he says
when it becomes virtual, it goes into a reverse time universe, then it falls TC: What is your understanding of anti-matter?
into the anti-matter universe. Anti-matter universe is NOT reverse time.
There is a reverse time universe and there's an anti-matter universe. So AB: Oh, that comes out of Von Neumann. Von Neumann was very much
that is disinformation right there. And what he describes is partially aware of it. And there is a lot of work done on it now. Today we deal in
correct, but not fully correct. speculation in physics about antimatter. And, of course, there is
discussion, both in the realm of science fiction and in physics about what
TC: So where else would you look for more information? you could do to create energy from a matter/anti-matter interface without
creating an unbelievably powerful bomb which could be very, very
AB: Where else? I'd say look into some of Von Neuman's works. He has disastrous. But there's a lot of speculation on that now as to the two
a list of 15 books and some of them are not at all relative to this. He does universes, and if you got matter from one into the other what would
have some of the information and some of the works which definitely tie happen? Can you control the reaction and how much energy could it
back to the theoretical approach which was made. create? That is speculative at the present time.

TC: But there's no way we can get ahold of the time equations, is that In addition to that, it's a little bit more than speculative because you have
correct? the aspects of the U.F.O. ships that have been turned over to our
government out in Nevada. That has been discussed.
AB: Most likely, no. It is highly classified.
Bob Lazar has discussed the business of the element 115 and the fact
DG: Regarding the boat experiment, was it because they generated too that they use it to generate anti-matter and the anti-matter generator
much energy that it took them beyond their anticipated results or was source and from that they amplify gravity waves and this is what they
there an alien manipulation that actually generated the field in such a use for their drive system. Now there's no technology like this on earth.
way that they went beyond their expected results? He says that there's no way we can replicate it. He said furthermore,
there's no way we can come up with atomic element 115 in any
AB: No, just the rotation of the field itself would not create the problem. quantities because it requires a totally different physical environment to
It was the fact that they locked up with another experiment which produce it. Though he says our government has perhaps some 500
brought them far beyond the 6th level which they were capable of pounds of the stuff. And it is incredibly powerful.
generating on the Eldridge. They had to be capable of generating 6 levels
in order to get 5, and 5 is what they had to have in order to rotate the He said he was hired because of what they called an "unscheduled
time fields. Uh, you lose one in there, so to speak. You manipulate from nuclear event", in which a number of scientists were vaporized. They
the highest level what is below, that's why they had to go to 6 to get had to go out and hire replacements for them. And he got the word. He
manipulation of the 5th. But that of itself would not have done what was at Los Alamos working as a physicists. He heard about this and
happened. You have to have additional orders and you have to have other went down and talked to EG and G and apparently he was accepted and
factors which cause the lock up. then he was actually put on the Navy payroll, is what he says, then he
went to Los Alamos and eventually wound up working on the UFO's and
DG: One of the things that's really interesting about this video that we've UFO problems and related things.
seen is you and your brother's unique approach to understanding time,
since you have experienced time in a very nonlinear fashion. When His comment was that they don't have enough really qualified people.
you've created a loop like the loop that was created between 1943 and They don't understand what's going on. They don't really understand
1983 with regards to locking up of the two different experiments, how what's going on with this, and he says it's also impossible to produce
does that loop ever break? element 115 on Earth. This had to have been brought in. Yet they have
this technology them. He says its definitely not built there. He says he
AB: It doesn't. It is there and it remains there but after a certain period of can say that very flatly as a physicist. Ther's no way we can build this,
time it probably won't have any effect. When you get 20 years past 1983 not in this century. 50 years from now, who knows. Maybe 20 years
it's not likely to have any problem at all anymore. You don't lose it, you from now.
don't remove it. It just doesn't have any effect anymore. It's already had
its effect by the transit and when you come back. (Regarding time tampering, its implications and free will:) ...Things
could be manipulated in our future basis to alter the time line, as it were.
DG: Does it disperse? Again to alter it on a major basis, it would be a minor thing for an
individual. If it be a major basis it would affect the whole planet,
AB: No, it's just something that stays there and exists like a smoke trail depending on what effect it had.
in the sky. It's there and they slowly dissipate over a long period of time.
Now free will still plays, then the (time) line shifts and the whole reality
(Regarding the boat experiment) Nothing was told to us about travel, scenario changes, after it changes you still have free will but, I
only what we were doing in terms of that experiment. We had no understand the basis of your question: is it sort of like a higher order
expectation of anything like that happening. It was neither planned and reality coming down and hitting you over the head and after the stroke is
wanted, or expected. It just plain happened. over you go back to playing your little game of reality as you know it, or
as I know it or anybody else knows it. It does raise some serious
I don't regret that aspect. The only thing I have sometimes thought about questions, yes. And how much free will do we really have? In other
and question whether I have regrets about it is whether or not we might words, who else ... lets say, who else has more free will than us?
have all been better off if instead of letting Duncan go back to 1983. I'd
held him there on the ship so he couldn't jump overboard the second TC: Back to this time limit, they isolated the time field with the
time, until the ship returned to normal space/time. He wouldn't have Eldridge, would you agree with Bearden that the time dimension is the
connection with other dimensions, with the higher order dimensions? broadcasting facilities which are all over Africa and various places
around the world, which are now running megawatts of power, there are
AB: Yes, basically. also class D pulse modulation. And this stuff generates enormous
harmonies and is very disruptive to the body's physiology. This may be
TC: How so? the key to what's going on with the AIDS, the rise of the cases in the
cities.
AB: Time dimensions involve the 4th and 5th dimensions but your anti-
matter universe is also locked in, but it's not locked in that way, it's But he (Beardon) got into this and he got into the fact that the
locked in the 6th dimensional level and also the 11th. And you get government knows the cause and they probably know the cure and boy,
throught his whole, strange arrangement, you get into, through higher they came down on him. It's part of the government policy, they don't
order time manipulation, you get into areas of other universes. Now want a cure for AIDS - it's part of the population control program. The
that's not completely answering your question in terms of what Bearden Navy did a private estimate a couple of years ago on a classified study
is saying. But, like I say, he's correct at least as far as I understand what how many people were likely to come down with AIDS by the year
he's saying, and I'm not sure I understand all of what he's saying because 2000, as an example. Their computer studies said by the year 2000 there
I haven't read it all. will not be man or beast, vertabrea beast, on the face of the earth that
doesn't have the virus in him. And they don't know how many will
Time is, in a larger sense, in reality, a dimension. But it is not something succumb or how long it will be if there will even be a human race left.
which we, in our level here, really understand, and we certainly don't see
it. We only see the effects. That was the Navy's study. It was highly classified. A friend leaked it
and the Navy couldn't quite kick him out bemuse of that. He was
(Regarding Bearden) ... his real job now is still defense analysis and violating security but they didn't want to do it on that basis because you
strategy analysis; the same thing he did in the military he's doing for see if they fire him for violating security he has the right to know why
private corporations. And he also appears to be still connected with and he can make it public. And that was not something they wanted
Intelligence. He says he's retired but I have my own personal doubts public. So they didn't fire him over that. They found another means and
about that because of certain things he says. But most of the research and they got rid of him, killed his clearance and dumped him. But he went
he said this he has had to make dear at his public lectures, when he starts public on that thing and that was the Navy's study and Beardon is saying
talking about the Russian work, the UFO's and the weather modification the same thing. It's going to start increasing at a geometric progression
and all of what he said, this is my own research, it has not come out of rate, and he says it will be getting in the next 5 years way out of hand.
government classified sources, it is not infringing on government It's already way out of hand in Africa.
classified information or privileged information. He said, this is my own
research; it's totally separate. He's quite clear about this and I'm sure he's TC: These class D pulse modulations, do you have to have a TV to
quite correct because he would be in an awful pile of trouble. process it in order for it to be harmful?

There's only one area where he stuck his nose out and he's gotten himself AB: No, it has nothing to do with the receiver. It's the transmitting signal
in trouble, and that was when he spoke out about AIDS, the causes and itself. If you're sitting close to a transmitter or within reasonable
cures of AIDS. He has his book: AIDS: Biological Warfare; and it's a distance; you would have to establish a criteria of field strength, and I
bombshell. And he got more than got his wrists slapped over that don't know what that threshold is on this, but if you're radiated by the
because he stated very flatly the causes and the potential cures, signals from the transmitter, if you're reasonably close to the actual
(accurately,) for the most part. He alluded to the electromagnetic cures physical tower, the transmitter, you're getting radiated, it's going to affect
but he also did not point out, though I haven't read the book in full, he you physiologically.
accurately states there is no electromagnetic connection. There certainly
is in so far as the triggering mechanisms are concerned. Now there's a very good example of this. Measurements were made of
this in Portland, Oregon. Oregon is perhaps unique in this in that they
The virus gets into the body. The body, if it's working at all, and you're have all of their FM, AM, and TV transmitters upon Mt. Olympia, and
not already 3/4 dead, the immune system automatically puts up a defense it's an ungodly collection of transmitters in one location. Right next to
to the virus and isolates it. And then it sits there in the body for this transmitter site are all kinds of residences, people living there.
"umpteen" periods of time. It may run 6 months, it may run 10 years and
nothing happens. Sometimes it never happens with a person. They've got The rate of leukemia is very high in Portland in that area; and one
the virus in them all this time. They'll get an HIV plus reaction on the private doctor did a private study on this to try and correlate what is
test because of the antibody reaction with the chemicals they use in the doing this, what's going on, looked back in the case histories, the family
testing. But that doesn't mean the person automatically is going to come histories, etc.. He found out that people that lived in the vicinity of those
down with the disease. Its not automatic. transmitters came down with this particularly nasty form of leukemia
and he finally determined that if they lived there long enough the rate of
There are other factors involved. The weakening of the immune system succumbing to leukemia was 100%. There were no exceptions. If they
and triggering the mechanism of the reproduction of the virus. Anything moved away from that area they would recover as long as they didn't
that triggers it such as pulsed electromagnetic fields will start it going, have it fatally already.
that's why most of your AIDS cases are in the big cities, and very little in
the rural are". You go well north of Denver there are no charted cases as The physiological symptoms in the sites of the transmitter within a mile
such. or so were severe, very severe. The people knew it, in some cases and
they just got the sense and said, "I don't like it here, let's go somewhere
SS: Why is that, because there are just free floating electromagnetic else," and they go someplace else and they get over it.
waves?
I was up in that site once with a friend Bill who was working as a chief
AB: It's because of the concentrated electromagnetic pollution in our big engineer down at the local AM, FM and TV stations in Portland and he'd
cities. The major problem seems to be our TV stations. The fact that they have to go up and do maintenance occasionally in that tower in the
use pulsed transmission, class D transmission for higher efficiency and transmitter section. He says he hated to go up there. He says you're up
to get a better picture out further and also to avoid some of the problem there half an hour and your brain just scrambles, you can't think straight
in reception. They also additionally use circular polarization. But the anymore.
pulsed transmission as characteristics of a TV, they can do this on AM,
they can not do it on FM. It's very, very complex and very difficult. But You walk in the door and they have this fluorescent tube over the door, it
with the signal for TV, which is AM, or for the Voice of America AM glows day and night He told me, he says, "That's not wired to anything."
I say, "What do you mean it's not wired to anything?" He says, "There's PN: It was at the summit with the Delta T structure.
no connections. You can hold that thing in your hands and it will light up
like a Christmas tree. That's how much RF is coming out of this SS: How far down was it?
building. We're subjected to that as long as we're in here., They have
problems occasionally where the equipment just fries itself, particularly PN: 1/4 of a mile, maybe somewhere between a thousand feet and 1/4 of
some of the solid state components which are highly susceptible to this a mile. It was way underground. This is according to our recollection.
sort of thing. He said, "You don't want to stay up here very long. I don't We have no proof of it of course.
want to. I have to come up here to do maintenance. When go home I
have quite a time getting over it. It takes overnight." It just scrambles the SS: Could there be a reason for it being underground?
normal function of his brain. He can't think anymore as to what he's
doing, what he's up there for, what tools to pick up, what he's actually PN: The reason was essentially they built, see the Montauk time and
working on. The continuity of thought is lost. space portal was essentially an artifact that came out of what we call a
Delta T antenna. You have a picture of a big thing made out of wood
TC: This class D pulse modulation, is it scalar? with wires shaped like this. That's what we call the Delta-T antenna. The
portal actually appears in the center of that. If you pump this thing right.
AB: No. It produces RF sidebands and harmonic sidebands which are They had trouble building this above ground because when they started
damaging and it may produce some scalar components. I don't think to test above ground the fields from the transmitting equipment were so
anybody's done a good study on that. But it's not doing this deliberately strong that they had to locate it low enough below ground that there
if it is. See, all tube-type transmitters, and all of these are great big would be a neutral point between the fields of the equipment and the
transmitter tubes, all produce some of the higher order energies, and building above ground and the fields from the antenna way below
some solar-type transmission without it being intended. This is one of ground because at that neutral point sat the chair that he [Duncan] sat in.
the reasons why, any ordinary AM transmitter produces some of those
higher order energies, and if you want overseas reception you have to So I have to point out also that they did not want any of the raw pulse.
use tube-type receivers particularly the types designed by T. Henry See this antenna took the raw pulse from the pulse modulators of the
Morey and Tesla in the 1930's, to get a consistent reception from radar transmitter and essentially put it into Del Cross F Cross E Cross B
overseas. The solid state receivers are worth the powder to blow them Cross G function. Which means they were essentially generating
for the most part, not the commercial ones. They do not work that well. gravitational waves that would enfold into space-time waves in itself.
They lose part of the components. They lose all the higher order energies And you could make a time-space portal; only one end of it was
which you need to reinsert in the processing in the signal in order to controllable, such, in '83 you could make an extension of it anywhere in
prevent the very severe fading effects which normally occur. the past, present or future you wished. If I took this antenna here and
added in pulses from a pulse modulator in a radar transmitter it would
TC: Can they put the subliminal messages on CD's and cassette tapes ? probably wipe out every TV set within about 50 miles of it. But they had
to keep this thing far enough under ground so that the EMR
AB: Not readily on magnetic tape bemuse you have a very limited electromagnetic interference would not be radiated. Also they wanted to
frequency range in which they work. They could probably do it on laser make it big enough, I think it was 250 feet, this one was 10 foot. I think
discs. They couldn't do it on a CD audio disc because your frequency the one we had at Montauk was 250 feet to 300 feet - something like
range is too limited them that. This one, the actual portal might be that big (a few inches) but if
you've got one that's 10 times the size and is like that you could literally
SS: Are there any things you can use to protect yourself from ELFs and have a portal... I believe the portal size was 10 to 20 feet that they were
these waves? actually able to create. I could make a portal maybe 2 inches here cause
the antenna's small.
AB: Yes there, are devices available and I have one that might be one of
them. I have not examined it, it's the first time I saw it. We'll have it Of course above ground there would have been certain construction
measure it to see what it's putting out, take it apart and look at it. But problems. With making the thing below ground where they have the
there are devices that have been available and are still available that do undergrounders making holes in the floor and pass the pipe and the wires
help. There's more than one approach. The 7.83 hertz human resonance through the floor and the thing up and you don't have to worry the wind's
thing is one of the most reliable. It's only about 35% effective. It does going to blow it down and this sort of thing. There's a number of reasons
not help everybody, but it is helpful. that it was underground.

The Soverein Scribe SS: And also you said it would be harder to detect?
P.O. Box 350
McKenna, WA 98558 PN: Yeah, who's going to see it from the air?

Interview with Duncan Cameron and Preston Nichols SS: Wouldn't they'd pick it up?

DC = Duncan Cameron PN: Also the Hertizan leakage would be way down if it's underground. It
PN = Preston Nichols wouldn't wipe out TV in Montauk. Montauk is so far out they have huge
SS = Sovereign Scribe power and rotary beams that they can look at Boston or they can look at
Rhode Island or Connecticut or New York with. And the signal strength
SS: Regarding the Montauk experiments, you said the tunnel was large at Montauk is very weak so it lakes nothing to interfere with the TV in
enough to drive a truck through; where did they drive the truck? Montauk. They don't want to get the Town up in arms.

DC: Where did they drive the truck? Well it's a figure of speech that you SS: Did they use that to build the legendary city on Mars?
can drive a truck through. There are all sorts of associated phenomena
that pass through whether it be information or people or such. PN: This is the information we have. We have not been able to back it
up. It is only memories of Mr. Cameron and Mr. Bielek. I was not
PN: But first of all, get the truck underground. involved with that part of it myself. It wasn't that they built the big city.
They found an ancient earlier civilization that was abandoned. They first
DC: ... Something that wasn't ground level. It was underground. it was got to Mars and realized that yes, there had been a civilization there at
underground. All the time-space stuff was underground. one time and the above ground of it was crumbled back into dust. But
they did detect huge underground installations which were still making
magnetic fields and this sort of thing that they could detect and they consciousness of the earth. That was one of the priorities, possibly, tools
realized that there was still machinery running underground and of to work with to condition and control people.
course they first went all around Mars and they couldn't figure out how
to get down underground without bringing boring equipment and cutting PN: The information source from what I remember your reading said
a tunnel right down in. When Montauk had the working capability it that it was essentially a defense for our whole solar system. The Mars
would be nothing to target the other end of the vortex from '83 through system would be protecting us well. That's the first thing they would do
to whatever time they wanted to inside Mars itself and this is what they was to shut that off so they could get in.
did. And Duncan himself can talk of stuff he saw on Mars.
DC: That would make sense.
SS: What did you we?
SS: So if they had it on before Montauk then Montauk went up and shut
DC: Something that has recently come up -- both Preston and myself it off...
were in a private meeting in Long Island with a man who was known in
the UFO field. He spoke; he was giving some pictures regarding UFO's. PN: Somebody went from Montauk through the portal that was from
He came up with some photographs having to do with the moon Phobos. space point A to space point B probably in real time. The first thing they
I reacted to that strongly. When I recall physically, there is a physical would do was shut that switch off. They had to somehow sneak into the
reaction and I'm startled. After spending a little bit of time with that -- defenses and turn the switch off. Maybe they had the key to shut it off. I
investigating it, it now seems from my own investigating and outside don't know. I wasn't part of that project. I was the guy that did the
reading per se. When I say I am reading, I am basically sensitive to electronics on the project. I was not involved with who went where. I
electro-magnetics and can access information zones whether they be on don't believe I went anywhere particular place in time.
a local scale, the Akashic which is in domain systems or out of domain,
higher evolved and such. SS: Do you know who is using that kind of equipment now?

Information that I got from the outside information zone is that there is a PN: Undoubtedly the secret government still has some more equipment.
system which still is on Mars. It originally was an electronic crystal type I can't believe that they're leaving it alone. I don't think the monster in
system which was part of the defense structure for the solar system that '83 scared them off completely. They slowed it down some but I'm sure
has been turned off. Defense meaning to keep for ones self. In that sense it's back on line running full force right now somewhere.
we all have energy fields about us and there is a defense posture to keep
outside influences away. If you think on a planetary scale in a solar SS: Is there any way to detect that?
system, if such defenses were set down, if that were one of the stations
per se, to keep out nasties or to keep the intelligence within the PN: I pick up signals from similar projects all the time. But signals that
solarsystem alive and dynamically moving, if that were to be shut off Montauk sent out sounded very much like the Buzzsaw that was sawing
there would be all sorts of obtrusions that would not ordinarily come the microphone in half that you talk about in your magazine in your first
through. article (Vol. 1 #131). The Montauk function sounds very similar, in fact
it's been speculated that they're playing Montauk tapes in these other
Whether that was one of the directives involved in the Mars project or if transmitters and that's what we hear as the Buzzsaw. Because the
that was one of their aims as such or by products, the defense system on function is the same. It's the same kind of function. It's just a different
Mars is down and there are all sorts of associated troubles and emulation of the system. Montauk ran at 450 to 470 megahertz. What
disturbances because of that. It's a linked system that we haven't quite we're talking of today is 3 to 30 megahertz. But the modulations are the
figured out the other aspects of. I could go on, it's just a quick brief same as far as I can see.
thing. Both myself and Al, according to recall, have been there mostly
on a directed mission, per se. Sort of like a 'seeing eye'. Part of my duties SS: And that includes the tunneling effect?
at Montauk were to basically to be in sort of a trance-type system and
have something pass through me which would be -- how do I say -- for PN; No, I'm talking about the mind control aspect of Montauk.
information's sake going places or something. It was one directive
system so I can only tell you on very linear function what happened. SS: How about the tunneling?
Basically I was there just to see about. Basically it would be 300 or 400
feet underground plus the cavern type systems. There are all sorts of PN: Tunneling -- that would work the same because it is all thought
symbolical references there. Tonal frequencies. It wasn't necessarily a forms. But you would have to go in to an actual time warping function
generator per se, but all sorts of frequencies that were very much alive - such as the Delta T antenna.
almost as though some kind of intelligence, per se. It was part of my
duty to go and investigate and see what occurred. So that was more or DC: We somehow by chance or design ran into some girl in Long Island
less the two things that I saw. who I had some association with. She was troubled for a number of
reasons and I followed her information basis back on a psychic read type
SS: Did you see traveling back in time, did you see a civilization on system. and it seems like she was hooked up to something called
Mars? 'Freedom Riders'. She had some degree of clairvoyance.

DC: No, not I. Not myself. Possibly with Al. I only had 5 or 6 specific How the thing works: when the DOR sensor is connected it sends out a
missions that I was involved in, as part of my recall. Having to do with reverse of the DOR patternings and since you have an exact reverse
Al I don't know. Until recently I have been denying any associations oscillation being built by the transmitter, it cancels the real DOR
having to do with the Philadelphia Experiment or Montauk or associated oscillation. It cancels it right out. Then they transmit the orgone function
problems because of a denial system within myself so now I am moving in phase so it replaces the DOR function with the orgone function that's
ahead and trying to learn and reeducate myself so I am looking out for picked up by the orgone sensor. That is simply in a nutshell how this
more information even as we speak. thing works.

SS: Did the face on Mars have a function beyond decoration? In the '40's, '50's, and '60's, they sent up thousands of these things. There
were 200 to 300 of these in the air each day. Now the interesting point to
DC: That's a good question. I've never looked at that. In that sense I notice here is, if we look at all these different devices, they all have a
could only be speculating. bottle shape on the bottom-- that's the transmitter. And you notice they
have roughly the same shape up at the top. This says that there is
Montauk was responsible for conditioning and influencing the something estoteric here in the upper part of the unit, which we don't
understand to this day. interested. They worked with Mr. Reich to replicate the thing.

Now if you look here, you'll see this is the modulator coil as outlayed in Now this transmitter, the silver box here, is a nice packaged AC device.
the diagram. It's got the same modulator coil inside this housing her. We had to have a device that would sense; that's the input well. The first
mode we played with was we took the orgone sensor from the
SS: What's the power source? Radiosonde and just plugged it directly into the transmitter. And now
you can transduce your orgone. You hold this [sensor], you plug it in and
PN: In this case, it's batteries. In the Biosonde it's AC. turn it on. It's like sitting in an orgone box. This is picking up your
orgone and building it up. We wanted to have a fancy witness coil so Mr.
SS: How long could they stay up there? Cameron turned on his psychic sense, talked to someone in one of the
higher domains, and he said we wanted to build a witness well. [A
PN: A couple of days maybe. They'll float around until the balloon bursts "witness" is anything that would carry the vibrations of the thing or
and they had a parachute that slowly carried them back to earth. They place you want to sense or contact, such as, clothing or a possession
can only transmit for about 3 to 4 hours. You could pressurize the would be witness to a person.] How do we go about doing it? And he
balloon so that it rises to a point and breaks and comes down. Or you channeled the whole design of this device including the well receiver,
could pressurize it where it would float for days. the circuit board and we made this input well. This input well turns out
to be vastly superior to the input well of the Kelly box or an
SS: Is that an actual orgone detector instrument? Heironymous box or any of those devices.

PN: Well the thing is, the orgone and DOR output of these things is in Now what this will do for you simply: you plug the wire into the
the subtle energy realm. I don't know of any receiver that can detect the transmitter. Whatever you dump in here [input well] this array of coils
actual energetic function that is coming out of here, the actual and receiver will pick up the electromagnetic component just as the chair
modulation. You listen to this, you only hear a group of impulses. The picks up Duncan's electromagnetic component, and will transduce it to
DOR and orgone is inside those impulses and how to detect what's inside be broadcasted by the transmitter. This is essentially a miniature
the impulses. I admit I don't know how to do it. I haven't had a chance to Montauk. Not of the power that they had. And if you put your hand in
analyze it but I got a Radiosonde Receptor which is a receiver built to the well, turn the device on, it would start building up your energies.
receive these things. It's a very strange circuit. The answer may be there,
how to detect what this is sending, but I don't understand it at this point. How you use Radionics equipment, them am three ways. You can do a
diagnosis with a radionics tuner where you get the rates, that where you
SS: But it's detecting what's there. put the witness in the witness well, you rub the rub plate and you tune
the tuner until you get a maximum stick. (As you turn a tuner knob with
PN: You're talking about the actual detector itself. one hand, you are rubbing a small 'plate' with the other hand; when you
get a feeling of stickiness on the plate the tuner is at the right setting.)
SS: Yes. It [orgone] exists. The government hasn't said that it exists. All that's telling you is whatever you're conceptualizing in your mind
scans from low to high on the dial is in resonance when you get the
PN: No, they haven't. In Radiosonde circles this flat plate with the black "stick". You get several rate number systems you're using, you get the
stuff on it, they call a humidity detector. This is what detects the orgone. rates [from the position of the tuner knob], you go to the phone book of
This little white rod here, this is a temperature sensing resistor, it detects rates, took it up and see [what the diagnosis is.]
the DOR. But also, this will detect humidity changes. The problem with
this is as you dampen the thing, dry it, dampen ii, it goes out of Now over on another column they'll be reversing rates the antirates. So
calibration. After about 10 minutes of flight these things are useless. you set the device to those rates, you throw the switch that says
These things will hold their calibration for maybe weeks at a time. 'broadcast', and what it does it feeds the thing back so it oscillates and
transmits to the person the reverse rates.
But still it was lucky that they sent this up so someone picked up one of
these things came down on the ground. They would see the white Now what is actually happening here? All the device is doing, it' a
thermistor between these two thing-a-ma-bobs here and this plate down concentration point that's connecting you the operator to the mind of the
here. Now the plates sits between these two clips and these aluminum subject. As you're scanning through, you're interrogating the subject's
covers go over it. If you follow Reichian technology, aluminum lends to mind as to what's wrong with the body. Then when you do the treatment,
have a focuser for orgone. So they have the orgone sensor here with the you're actually instructing the person's subconscious mind what to do. As
aluminum plate over it, the aluminum plate will help pull the orgone to we all know, the subconscious mind is what directly controls the
the orgone sensor. Copper focuses DOR. This is why Reich made the physical body, and if our conscious mind and subconscious mind stays in
original orgone boxes out of steel or aluminum foil, but not copper. touch with each other, our subconscious mind has a foothold in the
reality that can regulate the body correctly. As we get more paranoic and
Now this device here is a transmitter. After Duncan did his readings on more upset and more bent out of shape and more crazy, the subconscious
these things, I realized what I had was a radionics transmitter. Whatever mind looses touch with the conscious mind. It means now the
I put in would be sent out. Any of you people sensitive? All you do is subconscious mind loose its foothold into reality. It doesn't know how to
take this and hold it. You'll feel your energies build up in it. It might get direct the body anymore. That's when we get sick. This is one of the
warm or it might get cool to you. That's essentially a resonator of major theories.
hyperspacial energies, the psychic energy. And that design can be traced
right to Wilhelm Reich through Brookhaven National Laboratories. Now, if someone comes over and hits your leg with a sledge hammer it's
going to break your leg. That's not caused by the subconscious mind
See, after Reich developed this package, he called up the government loosing touch with reality. But disease that develop from outside
and told them that he had a device that could knock the violence out of influences such as germs and such, can be traced, it's believed by this
thunderstorms and asked if they were interested. The government said, group of people, to the subconscious mind not running the immune
"Yes. We're interested!" They requested Mr. Reich to mail a prototype to system properly to eliminate that irritant, and you get sick.
Brookhaven on Long Island.
So what they try to do is find out, be interrogating the subconscious
So they waited for a thunderstorm to approach and they sent it up into mind, what is wrong and telling the subconscious mind how to heal the
the clouds. As it approached, the thunderhead broke up and went around body. The device itself doesn't heal. This is not a healing machine, this is
Brookhaven. Al Brookhaven there was a nice gentle sunlit shower while just a broadcaster, what ever you put in the well for the primary witness,
the area around was having a thunderstorm. So of course they were very you can put any agent, thought form or whatever in the well just as you
would with the radionics device. The energetic component of that stuff PN: Yes. That probably is based on almost like a racial memory from a
that you put in will tag along with the witness to the person and you can long long time ago.
actually talk to the person's subconscious mind through this.
SS: What were you referring to when you spoke of the Montauk chairs?
How you treat people -- there are three means essentially. The most
common means is the reversing rate, which works psychically, by the PN: There were two generations of the Montauk chair. The original
people who designed the equipment. That's why you get the large book generation was built in a site know as ITT World-Wide Communications
with all the rates and reverse rates in it. / Makay [sp?] Marine in Southampton Long Island. That one looked
almost like a multi-pyramid structure with three coils. With that one they
Another way is through reagents such as homeopathic remedies, herbs, were able to use a more standard receiver structure. They use the ITT
etc. which work on the subconscious mind and the subtle body. If the Makay Radio. what they call an ISB receiver which was based on a 1950
herb or reagent is purely an energetic effect, this will transmit the Hamilin [sp?] short wave receiver, the same receiver I used to listen to
energetic effect to the person without using up the reagent. the "Buzzsaw". They made a very special carrier synchronizer system in
what we call ISB detectors which is upper and lower side band. So it
Another mode they use was designed by Malcolm Ray in Britain. He means you have two outputs and one input for your receiver. What the
made a box with two wells -- the reagent goes in one and distilled water outputs would look like would be an imaginary carrier and then an upper
in the other. He had cards that had geometric patterns or messages on and lower information band. They would tune the to three of the
them. The cards would contain thought forms. And as energy flowed hyperspacial window frequency channels. So you would have an upper
from one well to the other well, it would impress the thought forms on part of the window and a lower part of the window. So they actually had
the target well. The well does nothing with the writing or the ink on the six outputs from the three receivers, two for each receiver.
paper, but it picks up and senses the thought that you put on the paper
and transmits the thought to the subconscious mind. Now the carrier processing --they would take-- lets say you were
detecting the X coil, they would take the Y and Z coil summon and then
........ use that to modulate the X coil and do the same thing for the Y and the
same thing for the Z. And the synchronizing system that they'd come up
SS: You mentioned in your talk about Montauk and the old universe with on the suppressed carrier ISB reception was such that it was what
we call a phantom-phase-lock-loop system where you don't even need a
DC: There were a number of survivors, if my information is correct, of carrier to lock. The thing locked on white noise. So that means the thing
the old universe. If Montauk was as good and as manipulating as we would lock itself on the Delta white noise in the window frequency.
believe, the concept was, those people who had a connection into an old
Earth function -- we call it the old universe -- if they were coming from That's how the first chair was built. That had to be a distances away
a system that was highly chaotic and had come into here into this because that was subject to the incoming fields. They had to locate that
framework, if those people had a connection with such a system that was far enough away so the transmitter didn't interfere with it. It was
basically going to the more chaotic side and if Montauk was trying to microwave length from Southampton to Montauk.
bring in a great chaotic system, and somehow the control group got wind
of this, there could be and what we have information on was an attempt Now they had problems with it because if the information was being sent
to try to bring in this high disruptive value. There's all sorts of associated and the reality glitch or a reality shift happened it was a glitch in the
other rumors in regards to this. It hasn't been factual; we don't have a lot information. You've got to remember the Cray-Computer at Montauk.
of information per se. But there is some evidence to support some of was working on timing functions so the timing of the six data streams
what appeared in Star Wars, indeed is a fairly good account of an old was very critical. For some reason they did not want to move the Cray-I
system that was basically failing apart and is growing more and more to the Southampton installation then send the two channels of digital
chaotic. information on the microwave length. May be there was configurations
in the Cray-I that were much more secret than the chair was at that point.
SS: Old in terms of time and space, or are we talking about a parallel The Southampton's installation of course wasn't as high a security
universe? installation as Montauk was.

PN: It seems like to me it's a parallel universe thing. The legend base They went with RCA for the second chair. RCA built the second chair.
essentially that a long time ago there was a parallel universe. Probably RCA had receivers which were already designed on the Delta T function.
most of mankind was in that old universe. it evolved into a totally So it means instead of having the Delta T and the coil structure. the
despotic form of government that took hold and held for millenniums, Delta T function was now in the receivers. So now they're able to use
which is essentially what the One World Government has here. They will standard XYZ Helmholz [sp?] coils.. Then the new chair was
be starling up a despotic form of government and through their underground at Montauk and sat in a small room where the coils were
technology base they're able to hold the population pretty much the way close to the chair. In other words, let's say Duncan was sitting in the
the mind control here is heading. And what happened was a small rebel chair. There would be coils on both sides of him, around the head and
group that were fighting this, and the right continued. It went on and on around the feet, then more coils on the top and the bottom. They were
and on just as in Star Wars. hooked to three very specialized receivers designed in the 30's by Nikola
Tesla which had Delta coil structures in the receiver stages. Then they
But somewhere along the line another group of beings entered the old used the same type of IF detection with the synchronized oscillation.
universe. They came in and did something terrible. The legend has it that They used the ITT Makay-phantom-lock design on the RCA receivers.
they were a life form, essentially ape-mind energies of sentient beings, In other words, RCA combined the lockup system of the ITT with their
but they would suck the life energy out of you. They came in and there Delta T receivers, so the receiver looked almost identical in design. It
was nothing they could do to stop them. At that point a small group of had the same six channels of output, had the same upper and lower side
what was left put all of the technology that they had into breaking the bands.
dimensional barrier and broke into this universe, but sealed the hole up
enough so that this other life form could not come into this universe. SS: But much better design.
There have been suggestions at Montauk that they were trying to bring
this other life form in. We have very little data to back that up at all. This PN: The front end was a Delta T design. They didn't need Delta T in the
is pure legend at this point. coil. Now the Helmholz coil structure can be... the coils can be phased
where they're insensitive to outside influences. So that means they're
SS: There's a lot of science fiction like that. able to operate at Montauk directly and they didn't have the data
problem of going over a 20 mile microwave length and getting timing
glitches every so often that would throw the whole thought for in the orgone field of the earth into the room. That's why you got the cool
transmission helter skelter. breeze going through the room. And that's tied directly into magnetism.

There also is believed that there is a third chair set up in Britain on the SS: At the lecture you mentioned "entrainment"....
on the Thames River. We call that the Thames Chair we don't know
exactly where on t he Thames River it is. That comes up in readings. The PN: The esoteric database that we subscribe to believes you can entrain
other two chain I have direct memories of 'cause I was involved in 10% of a system you can entrain the other 90% of the system. Which
designing the RF equipment that was used with both chairs. So I did see means if you can raise the consciousness of 10% of the population the
and I do recall both coil structures and both receiver setups at this point. other 90% will fall into the pattern sooner or later. They'll fall in just on
the fact that 10% are there. This can be backed up... we have what we
SS: You said you could tell somebody who had been through Montauk call the museum, which is a whole stack of radio receivers. We found
by their aura? that if you can tune up 10% of them, the other 90% of them will fall into
the pattern, no matter where they're tuned. The level seems to be 10%. If
DC: Yes I do. you're like at 8% there's partial entrainment. 10% is full entrainment. So
the plateau seems to be 10% from the viewpoint of physics. Why that is
SS: How? What do you see? we can't explain. it has something to do with frequency transformed and
this sort of thing and we can't express it at this point.
DC: Basically there's a color attachment to it. It's a yellow-green
nauseous attachment, if I could use the word. That's the only thing that SS: Does the frequency make a difference?
comes to mind directly. It's the fading as though someone had that aura
of leprosy, so to speak. He was an outcast, that had this strange DC: What is the prerequisite is the intent into the tuning. To have intent
queerness about them which was as though they were, let's say, buried and follow that intent as you go along. And when you start resonating
underground for years alive, having that sense of strangeness or with that intent you get a vibratory pattern which is gracious to it and
queerness about them. It's very distinct. If you've been exposed to it and falls into it. Then you follow that along and get 10% then the rest fall
had the sensitivity to see it it's really around them. along behind it. But it's the intent for sure.

SS: When you say attachment, does that mean it's just on one area? This interview provided courtesy of QUANTUM
COMMUNICATIONS.
DC: It's within the auric structure and there's also attachments that go
…
outside. It's also associated strings attached to the people, as the psychic
type energy function that are in association with a person and outside.
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All sorts of tag-along are associated to it.

SS: And these attachments are still attached to something on the other Investigative Report #1:
end? April 17, 1999

DC: Oh sure. It's not a healthy energetic structure of the body which, if On Saturday, April 17th 1999 I was driving east from the town of
the system is working correctly, it does clean itself back to its original Montauk towards the lighthouse with a companion who was now also
process. It's an indicate of things that am askew, for sure. interested in The Montauk Project. We had been discussing doing our
own little investigation of the place for a few weeks now but had yet to
SS: We've heard of putting magnets on your body to increase the energy. take any action up to this point. A brief glimpse of the radar dish while
Are there ways to do this by magnetics besides by using electronic driving along Route 27 made up our minds to start snooping around right
devices? then and there.

PN: Well the thing you can say about magnetic fields is that a magnetic The first thing we did was drive onto Old Montauk Highway. The road
field is the portal or window into the shell function or the anti-matter becomes not much more then a dirt road as you travel up it. Along the
world. So a magnet definitely is a multidimensional window. Magnetic road are several driveways with mechanical gates, which are probably
fields are pure potential energy, they're a pure potential structure. Unless homes of people that are trying to keep people like us out. Strangely
you move them. they don't do any work. if you move them they do work. enough, Old Montauk Highway ends abruptly because a tree has been
This of course is normal physics at this point. cut down and it's pieces piled up in the middle of the road. Just where
the road is blocked there are several recently placed No Parking signs to
So the body is needing the magnetic potentials that are good and vitalize prevent anyone from leaving their vehicles and continuing on foot. Not
you. I've also seen people I hat magnets have a tendency to drag down wanting to risk a summons or worse, a tow, we decided to continue back
instead of build up. to Route 27 and head east.

SS: Someone we know experienced that. He was unknowingly sleeping We turned south on to Camp Hero Road from Route 27 (the only way
beside some heavy magnets and woke up drained of energy. Perhaps the you can.) About a hundred feet off of Montauk Highway you can turn
magnets were facing the wrong way, if there's a difference. east on to Madison Hill Drive and into a small housing area. Just past
Madison Hill Drive on the right side of the road is a trail leading into the
PN: Yes, there is a difference. There's also another kind of ray that woods with a sign nailed to a tree that reads POINT OF WOODS
comes off the sides of the magnet between the north and south pole. It's TRAIL. We would return to this trail later. Just past the trail are DO
almost like a ray emanating into a black hole, is the only way I can think NOT ENTER signs. Continuing past the DO NOT ENTER signs we
to express it. arrived at the main gate of the "abandoned" Air Force base.

DC: It's something that we've recently been exposed to by a fellow In the road just outside the fence is a recently installed fluorescent
named Jerry in Staton Island, New York. orange pipe with a keypad attached to the top of it. This apparently was
to control the mechanical main gate of the base. Strangely enough the
PN: He's a psychic that sees magnetic fields. Those plates we put in the gate was lying just inside the perimeter fence and looked as though it
Biosonde yesterday were from Jerry. There is a coating of, in black had been hit by a truck and damaged. Another keypad is located just
point, of magnetic powders that somehow he's witnessing to the Earth inside the fence obviously for use by vehicles exiting the base. We took
through the telluric field of the earth. And all it's doing was transducing a few photos and got back in the car. As a goof I decided to quickly back
the car through the gate to see if the Men in Black would appear from across another fence and on the other side was the base!
thin air. They didn't and we drove to the housing area.
From the fence we could see the radar dish which wasn't too far off. We
The first thing of note within this housing area is the circular driveway found a hole in the fence and slipped through. We walked along what I
of a recently constructed senior citizens center. At points along this guessed was the main road of the base. An area of mud on the side of the
driveway are old abandoned shacks. The center appeared empty which road revealed a freshly made tire track of a truck. Someone had
doesn't seem unusual on a Saturday. I mention the center because Peter obviously been here in the last day or so. The buildings were indeed
Moon and Preston Nichols believe the place always to be empty and part abandoned and were all in different states of decay. It was an eerie
of the ongoing activities at Camp Hero. I happen to know for a fact that feeling to say the least knowing what might have happened there. We
it is used as a senior citizen center because I know of a senior that peaked into several of the buildings but dared not enter any because of
attends activities there. I will add the dates and times that it is open as the fear of a collapse. It might sound like paranoia but we both had the
soon as I have confirmation of them. Why these two have never seen any strange feeling of being watched. We approached the building that had
seniors there is beyond me. We exited the area of the senior center and the radar dish on the roof. Standing at the base of this building looking
continued into the housing area. up we were both in awe of the size of the dish. One can not appreciate its
immensity until one is standing right near it.
The little community did have an air of strangeness about it. Throughout
the neighborhood are old shacks placed here and there with fairly new We walked further down the road and peered into a building that housed
locks placed on the doors. Why these shacks have not simply been some strange old equipment. I won't speculate on what the equipment
removed from the area does seem a bit strange. Some of the houses are was since there is probably a lot of strange old equipment that I can't
located right next to the barb-wired perimeter fence of the base. Why readily identify. Jumping to a conclusion like they were components to a
people would live next to and let their children play so close to a time-travel machine or mind-control device would certainly be a stretch.
supposedly hazardous area is a little peculiar to me. We did receive a few We walked further and came across a small fenced off area. The fence
inquisitive looks and stares from several people in the neighborhood as was definitely installed recently and surrounded a concrete slab. What a
we drove through but I write that off to the fact it is such a small relatively new fence was doing in an abandoned base is a bit of a
community that any strangers would warrant those looks. We decided to mystery to me.
leave the area and proceed further east on Route 27.
At this point it was about 5:30 in the afternoon so we decided to head
Our next stop was a small road south of Montauk Highway that had a back to the car. Getting lost walking through the woods after sunset was
guard shack on the side of it. Driving through the open gate we came not an appealing idea. We got back to the car and headed home. It was
across the Camp Hero Ballfield. The ballfield is well maintained and an interesting day and we would be back soon.
obviously used. Just beyond the ballfield is a locked gate with NO
TRESPASSING signs and is apparently another entrance to the base. Investigative Report #2:
There is also another gate just east of the ballfield, which prevents May 18, 1999
vehicle access but apparently pedestrian access is unrestricted. These
two areas will be explored further at a later date. Again we got back on
Route 27 and headed for the lighthouse.
Our second trip to the Camp Hero Area took place on Saturday, May
Once on the Montauk State Parkway, which is nothing more then the big 18th, 1999. It was our intention on this day to just connect some of the
looping road at the end of Montauk Highway, we saw a dirt road. dots on the map we were making. We had someone drive us to the Camp
Turning onto this road we found the entrance to the Camp Hero Fishing Hero Fishing Area and we would meet up with them in two hours at the
Area. The gate is locked and requires a key and a Camp Hero Fishing lighthouse parking lot.
permit for vehicle access. Pedestrian access is unrestricted. Of course
there were NO PARKING signs in the area before the gate which meant We walked past the gate into the Camp Hero Fishing Area, as pedestrian
that the nearest legal parking was the lighthouse's parking lot that is only access is unrestricted. The road at this point heads in a southerly
a short walk away. We will return here in our second excursion. We then direction. After proceeding a short distance down the road there are three
headed back to the POINT OF WOODS TRAIL on Camp Hero Road. dirt roads on the east side. Each road had a sign posted in the middle of
it that read TRAIL CLOSED: ENVIRONMENTALLY FRAGILE
Upon arriving at the entrance to the trail we found two other empty cars AREA. One must wonder if this area is actually environmentally
parked there. We parked and headed into the woods. The trail is well fragile or someone just doesn't want anyone snooping around in this
marked with white paint on trees to lead the way. After a somewhat area. A short distance down one of these roads is a very tall utility pole (I
lengthy walk along the trail, one will come across a rusty old barb-wired would estimate it to be a ninety footer) with a strange configuration at
fence. There are several holes in the fence to go through. After slipping the top of it. This was especially curious to me because I work in the
through the fence, the woods became pretty thick and the chance of telecommunications field and work on poles on a fairly regular basis and
becoming lost increased. We decided to return to the trail with the this was unfamiliar to me. One must wonder if this is some sort of
intention of returning to the fenced off area when better equipped. electromagnetic field generating antenna similar to a Delta-T antenna. I
have talked to a lineman of an electric company and showed him the
Travelling further down the trail something to my left just didn't seem photo of the pole and he was unable to identify the device either. A
quite right. We wondered off the trail to find an area that had several old barbed wire fence with warnings of high voltage surrounds the base of
wooden cable reels discarded and some small wooden structures that the pole. Very near the pole is a structure of some sort. We would get a
might have been shacks at one time. From there we climbed up a hill and closer look at this at a later time.
came across an old unmaintained asphalt road with hundreds of old
wooden pallets piled along side it. Also of note was evidence that some Continuing south along the road (which is Old Montauk Highway by the
sort of bulky equipment was moved in the area. Along one part of the way) we came across an asphalt road leading west. There was an old DO
hill all of the grass was pressed downward as if something was dragged NOT ENTER sign posted at this road. We decided that we would
down the slope. At the base of the hill were deep square-shaped continue along Old Montauk Highway at this time and check this road
impressions in the ground indicative of something quite heavy. Perhaps out later. A short distance from here we came upon the parking lot for
something was removed through the top of the bunker and then slid the Camp Hero Fishing Area.
down on to the road for removal. We followed the road to the left and
then circled a hill. There in the side of the hill was an entrance to a The parking lot had several vehicles in it. Most of them were mobile
bunker. The entrance was of course cemented up, as were the three homes and sport utility vehicles. Nothing seems strange about that
other entrances we found in the hill. While circling the hill we came considering that most of the roads in this area are bumpy dirt ones that
you wouldn't want your car bottoming out on. I mention this because used for coastal defense in the past. At one spot along this circle is a dirt
Peter Moon and Preston Nichols insist that there is something strange trail that leads to the bluffs. Aside from the beautiful view from the bluff
about the type of vehicles that are always in this parking lot. There were there was nothing else of interest here so we returned to Old Montauk
some people milling about by themselves in the lot, and some in groups Highway.
of two and three. No one seemed particularly unusual except for one
man. This one gentleman was standing alone near the front of a dark A few more steps down the road revealed a collapsed fence on the right
colored Chevy Blazer and locked eyes on my companion and I as soon side that one could possibly walk over and into the base if one felt like
as we entered the lot. He was wearing dark glasses (again not unusual fighting through the dense vegetation. On the left side of the road we
considering the beautiful sunny day) and stared at us for quite some found an old boiler hatch cover. A little further and we found a large
time. He literally did not take his eyes off us for about ten minutes. Just old tank left on the right side of the road and perhaps what might have
as his stare was getting uncomfortable he turned his back and we been a trail that is extremely overgrown. On the left side of the road was
snapped a photo of him. He was a strange presence. Looking west from a lot of old wood piled up. Continuing along the road we found another
the parking lot you could see the massive SAGE radar dish in the asphalt road on the left side that we decided not to follow because of the
distance. Even from here it was quite impressive and quite spooky. time constraint.

We headed west out of the parking lot down Old Montauk Highway, We traveled further down Old Montauk Highway and came to another
which becomes nothing more than a dirt road at this point. Along the gate into the base. The gate had a sign on it that read PARK CLOSED:
road are signs posted with numbers on them obviously indicating the NO TRESPASSING. There was a hole cut in the gate that one could slip
parking spots for the Camp Hero Fishing Area permit holders. Some of through. You could also simply walk around to a point where the fence
these spots were occupied by SUVs. A couple of young men walked past has collapsed for access to the base. It was at this point that we decided
us carrying surfboards and seemed very friendly. A short walk and we to head back to the lighthouse parking lot to meet with our ride home.
came upon an asphalt road heading north. The road was obviously We would be returning the next day.
unused, as it appeared decayed and quite overgrown. We proceeded up
this road and found ourselves literally hacking our way through the Investigative Report #3:
brush at some points. In a couple of areas it was actually easier to crawl May 19, 1999
under the growth.

Several places along the sides of the road there was debris scattered,
including large drums and tanks of some sort. At one spot there was a Our third trip to the Camp Hero area happened on Sunday, May 19th,
cable lying across the road. It was an old telephone cable that had been 1999. We took our own vehicle so as there would be no time constraints.
cut and was laying there still attached to it's supporting strand. It was We parked at the lighthouse parking lot and proceeded to pick up our
obviously an aerial cable at one time and judging from it's appearance, hike where we left off the day before. We walked all the way down Old
not very long ago. Further up the road on the left side there was some Montauk Highway to the asphalt road that comes just before the
sort of sewage/drainage system. We were able to climb down into the southwest entrance to the base.
wooden structure but it was not possible to travel through it as it became
too small in either direction. We walked up this road and the asphalt ended and it became a dirt road.
At one point the road forks. The right path leads nowhere and soon ends.
We traveled further up the road until we came to the end. An east-west The left fork continues all the way to the bluffs. Just before the bluffs it
road met it. Just to the west was a locked gate that is an entrance to the splits again. Both paths from here lead to the bluffs and an amazing
inner parts of the base. The fence had the usual NO TRESPASSING, view. The split to the right ends in a clearing with a small dirt trail
VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED sign on it. It is possible to leading west. Following this trail we came upon a beautiful house which
simply walk around this gate since there is no fence around it. We was obviously on private property so we headed back to Old Montauk
decided to head down the road to the east and come back here some Highway since there was nothing of interest here.
other time. Travelling east we ended up back at Old Montauk Highway
at the DO NOT ENTER sign. We had connected some dots. Once on Old Montauk Highway we proceeded to the southwest entrance
of the base. We continued past the gate and further down the road. We
We traveled back to the parking lot where we found the man still near came upon a trail on the right side of the road. This is apparently the
his SUV. He spied us again and would not remove his gaze from us the same trail as the one at Camp Hero Road. It has the same white paint on
whole time we walked through the lot. Was this man a lookout of some the trees marking that trail and we would find out later that they are the
sort? Was he making a mental picture of us for a later description to same trail.
someone? Who knows? We again headed west out of the parking lot and
past the overgrown asphalt road. Further down the road there was a sign posted on the side that read NO
VEHICLES. Just past the sign in the middle of the road is a post
A little further down Old Montauk Highway on the right side was an old preventing vehicle access. Just past the post on the right side of the road
decaying building. The structure, which was not much more then a was a guard shack with a #43 spray painted on the side. The decaying
large shack was several feet off the road behind some growth. Pushing shack was quite unremarkable. A little further we turned around and
our way through the brush we stepped into the structure. The inner walls snapped a picture of the post and you can make out the top of the guard
were pretty well stripped away and covered with graffiti. In the shack on the left side of the photo. The backside of the radar dish is
southwest corner of the floor was a square hole in the floor. Looking also visible.
down, one can see iron rungs embedded in the concrete wall to be used
as a ladder going down. The room appeared to be about ten feet deep We continued and came across an old road on the left side. We followed
with a couple of feet of stagnant water on the floor. We held the camera that road and scared a rabbit in the process. After a short walk the road
down the hole and took a picture. We will come back here at a later ends at a large metal enclosure. Climbing up one of it's approximately
time to climb down and investigate more thoroughly because we are on a six-foot walls we could see that this was used for storage. Being so
time limit this day. close to private property we didn't want to hop the wall just yet. Perhaps
we will return here to take a closer look but I do believe this belongs to
Further down the road is a sign posted that reads NO VEHICLES one of the nearby homeowners.
BEYOND THIS POINT. Past here there is an old pipe that cuts across
the road. A little further down on the left is an asphalt road. We followed We returned to Old Montauk Highway and my companion continued up
this road which ended at a circular road. The center of this circle may ahead of me. When they exclaimed, "Oh shit" in surprise I turned to
have been the location of one of the large sixteen-inch guns that were look. What I saw was a man approaching. At first I thought my
companion knew this person but then realized they were expressing point we had no choice but to play stupid. The vehicle pulled up along
surprise in the fact that we had reached the woodpile at the end of the side us and we realized it was a New York Parks Police vehicle. The
unrestricted portion of Old Montauk Highway. The man approaching driver was dressed in the dark green uniform of the department with his
was tall, about six feet, white, and had a large frame. He was wearing a badge and medals and was obviously a Parks officer. The passenger
General Electric uniform. When he reached my companion he turned however was not in a uniform, wore dark glasses, and seemed quite
and said "Nice day, huh?" The way those words came out of his mouth agitated. The officer asked us quite calmly what it was we were doing
was nothing short of sinister. It sent chills through me looking at his there. I explained to him that my companion and I were simply hiking. It
eyes. It might sound paranoid but there was just something wrong with was at that point that the civilian started in with "Hiking? You're hiking
the whole scene. here?!?" in a very confrontational tone. I started to explain that we were
walking the trail through the woods and then walked through the open
The man walked past us and down Old Montauk Highway. I said to my gate when he jumped in with "You walked through the gate? The one
companion that perhaps the 'technician' just needed to urinate and was that clearly says no trespassing and that violators will be prosecuted?!?"
looking for a suitable tree. We walked past the woodpile and onto the I tried to explain that we came through the gate near the trail and weren't
unrestricted portion of the road to see that his GE van was parked almost aware of the problem with being here but of course he wouldn't let me
two hundred feet away. A long walk just to relieve one self when there get it out. "You and your friend just go back the way you came and don't
was plenty of secluded spots right next to his van. We snapped a photo come back here again!" was his interruption. When I again tried to
and proceeded to follow him. Walking at a fast clip we failed to explain that I wasn't aware of any problem he shook his head and
understand how he could have disappeared so quickly. We walked all the muttered something to the extent of, "this fuckin' guy." He then said,
way back past the southwest gate and to the road leading to the bluffs. "You know what? I think we..." It was at this point that the officer
We walked up the road and down the left fork. About halfway to the intervened and said quite calmly and professionally that this was the old
bluffs we spot the 'technician' walking towards us and talking on a cell Air Force base and that it is not open to the public's use. He then politely
phone. As he walked and talked he stared straight ahead, expressionless. told us we should leave. I agreed and the officer wished me a nice day.
He walked past us without even acknowledging our presence. I swear if We started walking towards the road that led into the woods and they
we had been in front of him he would of run us over without missing a started to drive off slowly. At one point we stopped and turned around
step and continued on his way. It was just so damn strange! and their vehicle stopped to keep an eye on us. We walked into the
woods and left the base. The dark green Chevy Blazer with the license
We turned and watched this robotic figure walk away until he was out of plate 9 972 drove off deeper into the base.
sight. We then began to search the area looking for some equipment he
might have been sent out to look at. Nothing. Nothing near the road, The incident with the officer and civilian is certainly interesting enough
nothing near the bluffs, nothing anywhere. His reason for being there in it's own right. I must point out that over a month after this incident I
just couldn't be explained. Was he perhaps another lookout? Was he sent read a book called The Montauk Files written by K.B. Wells, Jr. that had
to confirm that we were the same people snooping about the previous a strikingly similar story. On pages forty-five and forty-six Wells writes:
day? I don't know but it was awfully peculiar. (I later read in one of "We were caught, in October 1994, but were not fined. It is interesting to
Preston Nichols and Peter Moons books that GE 'technicians' are note that, even though it was a Parks Department officer who confronted
involved with the picking up and dropping off of equipment used by the us, a civilian accompanied him. The civilian seemed highly upset. The
people involved with The Project. This just made the whole experience reason for his agitation was not made clear. It was this civilian who did
that much more interesting.) all the talking. The Parks officer was very calm and said little. What
authority this civilian had is unknown." I guess it's interesting to note
We decided to walk back to the trail near the post in the road and follow that nothing has changed in the last five years.
that. The trail is quite easy to follow. While it was our intention to
simply follow the trail and connect more dots, the temptation of the base We left the base on the road leading to the Beast bunker. We discovered
proved to be too great. We left the trail and headed for what we believed another entrance to the bunker. This entrance had a semi-circular
to be the general direction of the base. Without too much trouble we overhang and was cemented up as thoroughly as the other entrances. I
came upon a fence and beyond it could see the radar dish above the tops later found out that this entrance is where Battery 216 was located and
of the trees. In a few minutes we found a hole in the fence and slipped once had a sixteen inch gun placed here. This old, poor quality photo
through. was taken from K.B. Wells JR's The Montauk Files (used with
permission from the author).
Once on the base we found ourselves on the same road we had been on
during our first visit. We decided to walk in the opposite direction this While the day was quite productive as far as connecting some dots, it
time. We found where we had slipped through the fence the first time we was a little disappointing to be caught on the base so early into our
visited the base. As we were walking we saw a building that certainly investigation. Getting caught once is easy enough to get away with by
looked newer then the others or at the least it was well maintained. feigning ignorance, but getting caught twice would be a little harder to
While walking towards the building we noticed in the adjacent lot explain. It was time to end the day's activities and head home. The base
something that stopped us in our tracks. Parked there next to the building has not seen the last of us.
was a 1991 or 1992 red Nissan Maxima SE. The base definitely had
some activity going on! Unfortunately I could not get a license plate at Investigative Report #4:
this distance, nor did I want to get any closer to the building. June 26, 1999

A short distance past the building we came across a road joining the
main road that turns out to be the road by the bunkers that were
described in report #1. We had connected yet another dot on our map. SPECIAL NOTE: Unfortunately, for our own security reasons, it has
The road has a gate that is open and has no signs on it. The gate was also been decided that certain parts of this report be suppressed from public
open the first time we were on the base. This at least gave us the excuse view at least temporarily. At this time, we feel that certain findings, if
of not knowing we were trespassing if we were to get caught. At this realized by certain people, would compromise our investigation. We
point we could also see the main road we were on led right to the main hope to be able to release all of our information at a later date. Our
gate on Camp Hero Road. Yes, another dot connected. apologies go out to those who are truly interested in finding out the truth.
We of course hope that you can understand our need for our own
Instead of being content with the day's activities we made the mistake of security in this matter. Thank you.
turning around and walking back into the base. Just as we were passing
the building again we could hear the screech of tires. Turning around we SPECIAL NOTE: P.C.D. Operatives can still of course receive this
saw a dark green SUV racing towards us. With nowhere to run at this information. It is intended for PCD Clearance Level I ONLY at this time.
Information will be included in the updated PCD Operations Overview possibilities.
and can only be exchanged as per set guidelines concerning PCD
Clearance Level I. As if the events of this day weren't strange enough, more was to happen.
One of the most eerie things to ever happen in my life happened not an
I know this report has been a long time in coming and I apologize for the hour after this event.
delay. After the events following the last report, such as getting caught
on the base, a few decisions were made. The scope of the investigation My companion and I stood outside and theorized on a number of
will be expanded. More people are going to become involved with our subjects for the next hour or so. While my companion was speaking I
project. More elaborate plans will be drawn up. Equipment will be became distracted looking out at the pond. They stopped speaking and
purchased. We have recently acquired some night vision equipment, then said to me, "Are you looking at what I'm looking at?" I replied with,
which will be used in a future operation. "That strange line across the surface of the pond?" They said yes and we
both turned to look at each other and then back out towards the pond.
I would like to state that up until this point I was interested in only the
facts as were revealed to us. Any reference to extraterrestrial At this point in the night, the wind had picked up enough to make the
involvement, unidentified flying objects, magic, psychic ability, and surface of the pond quite choppy. Choppy everywhere except for this
occult issues were dismissed by myself as strictly the products of over- still stretch of water that formed a line from our property to another bit
active imaginations. It is only now that I am beginning to question the of land several hundred feet away. I'm sure they're are quite a few
nature of things such as creation, evolution, and time. normal explanations as to why this would happen. Underwater formation
at the bottom of the pond, varying temperatures of the water, and land
SPECIAL NOTE: Four paragraphs have been supressed as per PCD based obstructions of the wind all sound like plausible explanations.
Clearance Level I guidelines.
SPECIAL NOTE: Three sentences have been supressed from this
While the events described above were very exciting to us, what paragraph as per PCD Clearance Level I guidelines.
followed later in the evening was quite bizarre. I gave serious thought to
not including this story on the web site for fear of being written off as Whatever the reason, it made us both quite curious.
some cuckoo. A description I have used on Mr. Moon and Mr. Nichols.
While it sounds strange, the following events in fact did take place. I got up and began crossing the lawn towards the water. About halfway
to the water while crossing over what may have been an underground
After covering up the hole we had dug we showered and headed out to room I got a chill. I then began to feel fear. Then sadness. The intensity
dinner. After dinner we caught John Travolta's movie, The General's of the sadness became greater and greater as I passed over what I have
Daughter at the small theater in Montauk. Upon returning home I stayed now marked out as circle about ten feet in diameter in the lawn. My eyes
outside while the rest went in. While outside I looked up at the sky began to tear, and then I actually started to cry. When I got near the
which was exceptionally clear with a full moon. I must point out that I water I had to sit down on the grass to compose myself. The sadness I
received a fairly high-powered telescope as a gift about six months felt wasn't my own. It was as if the feelings were projected onto me
previous which I left in Montauk because the sky offers such better rather then coming from within. I know this sounds absolutely crazy but
viewing then in the city. I have pretty much become well acquainted that is how I felt.
with what the night sky looks like there because I have spent many a
clear night looking at the stars and moon while there. When I got myself together I went to the edge of the water. I looked out
at the line and the turned towards the property to see where it led.
While gazing upward I noticed an exceptionally bright star directly
above me. While admiring the star it occurred to me that I never noticed SPECIAL NOTE: One sentence has been supressed from this paragraph
this particular star before. I found it strange that I would not have as per PCD Clearance Level I guidelines.
noticed the second brightest thing in the sky. While staring at the
unmoving light it began to get dimmer. It dimmed and then disappeared I began walking back towards where my companion had remained. As I
completely. At this point my heart began racing. What the hell was that? passed over the "circle" it happened again. I fought back the tears as I
I went inside and explained what I had just seen. They told me they approached my friend and continued to walk past them in an attempt to
thought that this whole Montauk Project thing was going to my head. hide my sobbing. They asked me what was so funny as they thought I
Was it going to my head? Was I seeing things now? was laughing. When they realized I was crying we tried to come up with
some logical explanation.
I went back outside and was joined by a friend. We began discussing the
different possibilities of a number of subjects when my companion About twenty minutes later we both crossed the lawn headed toward the
grabbed my arm and said "Oh Shit!" I turned to them and saw that they water. As we entered the "circle" sure enough it happened to me again.
were pointing up with their other hand. Turning my gaze upward to what My companion however was unaffected. We got to the water and I sat
I figured to be the exact same spot as before, I saw the light again. Dim down again to compose myself. After a little while we decided to go in
and unmoving, it began to get brighter and brighter. It was soon the and get some sleep. Walking back to the house we passed over the
brightest thing in the sky except for the moon and stayed that way for "circle" again and damn it, it happened again to me! I can't explain the
several moments. It then began to dim again. Just before it disappeared intensity of these feelings except to say that it was absolutely chilling.
we saw it shoot off at an appreciable rate of speed. What had the two of Was I just tired? Stressed out? Was it all in my head? I don't know and
us just witnessed? I've seen meteor showers. I've seen shooting stars. tried to fall asleep.
Hell I've even seen the space shuttle and some Russian satellite from the
ground. This was unlike any of those things. After about two hours of tossing and turning I decided to go outside. I
wanted to see if it would happen again. To be honest with you, I was a
Shortly after this sighting of what can only be described as an little bit scared to be out there alone. I walked over the "circle" and there
unidentified flying object, we witnessed a strange increase in the number was nothing. I walked over the location several times and nothing
of planes in the area. They were not at the high altitude that most of the happened. With a sigh of relief I looked out towards the water. Wouldn't
commercial airline's planes are usually seen going out towards Europe. you know it? The line; It was gone.
These appeared to be lower, smaller, and faster. Perhaps they were
military fighter planes. After several minutes of these planes circling the I don't have an explanation for all of the things that happened on this
area, they too flew off. Did somebody get a blip on their radar screen day. Did we discover an underground room or tunnel? Did we alert
somewhere? Was a squadron dispatched to investigate? Did they arrive someone? Was there a craft overhead? Was I subjected to a man-made
to late to acquire their target? I don't know, I can only come up with mood-altering device? Was I feeling a spirit of some sort? Was I touched
psychically? These questions and many more have been brought out. Most of the cables were coaxial. There was one old lead telephone
Connections to events that happened to me in 1993 and 1994 were made cable that was armored. I have since found out that this is used in
(more on this in a future report.) I am now questioning the very "truths" underwater conditions. Where are these cables coming from? What were
I held to my whole life. The possibilities seem much broader to me now. these cables once connected to? Again, more questions.
I know this for certain, I will never look at the world the same way
again... We continued along to find yet another piece of evidence of an
underground. Looking up near the top of the bluffs, we saw that there
Investigative Report #5: were quite a few little holes in the bluff walls. Not looking quite right, I
June 27, 1999 decided to throw a rock at the holes. When the rock impacted it caused
something that I certainly wasn't expecting. A bunch of small bats flew
out and circled around us before entering the holes again and
disappearing. I don't know much about bats but I always believed they
After the strange events that occurred the previous night, I was ready to lived in some kind of underground structure like a cave. Maybe there
pack it in and call it quits on this whole investigation. I did however were underground caverns here.
begin to realize that several such strange events happened to me in the
summer of 1994 while I was living in Montauk. There were several Further down the beach we came across a mound of sand that had been
reports of activity at the base in 1994 including movement of the SAGE dumped here. It wasn't your typical beach sand. It was more like the
radar dish. I began to link certain events in my life to the possible sand used in cement work. Why it is here and how it got here is yet
experiments that were happening in Montauk. Strangely enough, I am another mystery.
beginning to take several things personally. This is one of the reasons I
felt we needed to add more members to the investigative team. It may Continuing along the beach we came to a wider area. Ahead of us in the
have now reached a point where I need some objective viewpoints to water was another concrete structure similar to the one near the
counter my growingly obsessive (and perhaps unhealthy) opinions. lighthouse. I had wanted to climb out on top of it to get a better look but
the surf kept chasing me away. It is apparently a mooring structure. Also
We decided that we should now check out the beach area surrounding at this location was a pipe leading into the water. it appears to be the
the base and the lighthouse. We began our journey by parking at the same pipe that we saw crossing Old Montauk Highway (Report #2). At
lighthouse parking lot as usual. We started at the very tip of Montauk this time three men approached our location from a path that leads up to
Point on the large rocks placed near the lighthouse. After looking near Old Montauk Highway. Some of them wore wet suits and were very
the lighthouse and finding nothing unusual about the erosion control friendly as they walked passed us. Nothing seemed unusual about them
techniques we proceeded along the water to the southwest. except for their English accents. We decided to head up the path to Old
Montauk Highway and call it a day because it was getting quite dark and
The first thing we came across that was rather odd was a large concrete foggy. We would continue our beach search and a later time.
structure resting in the water just beyond many large rocks. It is hollow
with a ladder inside of it. I believe that this was once some sort of The short path intersects the old highway at the first handicapped
mooring structure that no one has bothered to remove. Where the ladder parking spot for Camp Hero Fishing Permit holders. Heading back
once led is anyone's guess. towards the lighthouse we decided to stray a bit and walk back along the
bluffs instead of the road. Past the Camp Hero Fishing parking lot we
We then continued to the Turtle Cove area. What makes this area strange discovered what may have been another gun location. There was also
is the number of small rocks here. There is virtually no sand in this another coaxial cable running along the ground here, which for some
area. Whether or not this is a natural thing or an attempt at erosion reason we forgot to follow.
control I do not know. I do know however from digging in Montauk that
the ground is all rock. If someone was to excavate a large underground Once we passed the gun location we decided to get a closer look at the
structure, they would need to dump the rocks somewhere. strange high antenna that is located here (Report #2 ). At the base of the
antenna is a fenced off area that had two small structures. There were
A little further on we came to a path that leads to the residents only signs indicating that this was U.S. Coast Guard property and that we
parking area near the lighthouse. Just past this lot is an old guard shack should steer clear because of high voltage. As we headed out along one
that is fenced off with signs warning of ticks. It's strange that there is a of the roads towards Old Montauk Highway, we noticed that the signs
fence only on this side but not on the lighthouse side and there is a that used to read TRAIL CLOSED: ENVIRONMENTALLY FRAGILE
viewing platform with one of those pay binoculars right near this "tick AREA (Report #2 ) have been changed to signs that read ROAD
infested area." We went further down the beach and turned around to CLOSED TO VEHICLES. I guess it's nice to know that they cleaned up
snap a photo of the lighthouse, guard shack, and the concrete structure. some of their mess.

We continued on down the beach to a narrow strip where you practically That was the end of our excursion that day. As usual, no answers just
have to walk right next to the bluff walls. I'm not a geologist, but it more questions. On returning home I found someone who knows an
seems to me that the pattern of erosion along the walls is quite strange. employee of Cashen & Associates which is the company that did a
Some areas of the walls seem gutted while some areas look pretty much survey recently of the area to see if it is feasible to build a golf course
intact. It may very well be that they had some heavy equipment in use there. I'm waiting on whatever information I can squeeze out of them. I
here to do something about the erosion. Another strange aspect of the also discovered that my friend that used to work for the Department of
bluff walls was the fact that some areas at different heights were wet. At Conservation in Suffolk was out at the base in late 1994 responding to
this time it had not rained for quite some time but there was a murky several toxic waste spills. More information on both of these things will
brown water seeping out of the bluff walls. Perhaps there is a flooded be included in the next report.
underground. (I also looked up the name that was on what I thought to
be an old boiler hatch cover (Report #2 ) F.E. Myers & Bros. Co. seems Investigative Report #6:
to produce submersible water pumps. More clues of an underground that October 1, 1999
has been flooded?) Anywhere this water was there was a smaller version
of the very green plant life that we found in the woods where this
brown water was also found.
On returning home after the events described in Excursion Report #5,
Further down the beach we came across something that definitely seems several more questions were raised. I spoke to a friend who used to work
to indicate the presence of some sort of underground. Coming out of the for the Department of Environmental Conservation in Suffolk County
bluff walls in several locations are different cables with their ends cut. that had some information on hazardous waste cleanups out at Camp
Hero. I also got in touch with someone who knows an employee of friend was taken aback by this woman's change of attitude towards her.
Cashion & Associates. That is the company that recently surveyed the Before the woman left, she did however mention that they had found
area to see if it was feasible to build a golf course there. explosives and other military ordinance as well as other hazardous and
toxic materials at the base
I was on the phone with a friend of mine one day discussing the
Montauk Project. He had no knowledge of the project but had revealed Several weeks later I received the Concerned Citizens of Montauk, inc.
that he was at Camp Hero once responding to a hazardous material spill Newsletter. The Concerned Citizens Of Montauk is an environmental
while working for the DEC. He changed jobs shortly after that so was organization that was formed in 1970. (Address: P.O. Box 915 Montauk,
never at the base again. He told me he would ask some former co- NY 11954 Phone/Fax: (516) 668-6473) What I read in an article about
workers what they could tell him about toxic waste incidents out at Camp Hero in their July-August 1999 newsletter just brings to light
Camp Hero. A few weeks later he sent me what little information he had more evidence that the base is a mess. The article read as follows:
acquired.
New York State Commissioner of Parks and Recreation, Bernadette
It seems that the DEC keeps a logbook of all hazardous materials spills. Castro, met with members of the Camp Hero Advisory Committee to
The logbook contains the date, spill number, and brief description of the review progress on Camp Hero. The biggest news coming out of the
incident. The public can view the logbook at the DEC office located on meeting was in the words of Commissioner Castro that "golf is no longer
the Stonybrook University campus, Northeast Building 30, phone an option for this property."
number (516) 444-0320. To obtain a full report on a particular incident,
one must file a Freedom of Information Act form and give the DEC spill When news that Camp Hero was going to be developed reached CCOM
number. While I have not pursued this avenue of investigation yet, I plan two years ago, the plan was to put in a "world class golf course", the
to in the near future and encourage others to do so as well. The Pebble Beach of the East. It was obvious to us that the site was far too
following is the E-mail that was forwarded to me by my friend: sensitive with rare strands of Oak Holly and virgin forests unmatched in
the State. After careful review, the State now agrees.
Forwarded Message:
Subj: camp hoagie Other pertinent information included an estimate by the Army Corps of
Date: 7/2/99 9:54:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time Engineers that it will take about three years to clean the area, remove
asbestos, check for ordinances, and demolish several buildings.
yes, big spills. At a minimum we have:
Commissioner Castro also stated that some historic preservation will be
part of the final plans. At least one of the bunkers along with two of the
Date military buildings will be restored. These buildings were designed with
Spill Number exteriors similiar to New England village buildings when if fact they
Desciption were a basketball gymnasium and an electronic monitoring station.
10/25/93
93090978 Cashion Associates, the consultants working for the state, presented new
bunch of 1k gas tank removals. tanks from military days. estimates of the property showing that up to 46% of the area has never
11/08/93 been disturbed. Cashion went on to say that while no endangered species
9309575 had been located, the site was home to numerous mammals.
more tanks at old military base. "100 yds stocked" Hummingbirds, Osprey, and many other birds were also present at Camp
??/??/?? Hero.
9311848
minor incident at park office. One note of controversy was sounded when Commissioner Castro
suggested that the state was considering constructing up to eighteen
cabins as primitive camping accommodations in order to secure a source
however, all these are now closed. of revenue other than parking fees. This plan, however, was by no means
final. The Montauk Chamber of Commerce has subsequently pointed out
why? that we already have enough motel rooms in Montauk.

It would appear that whatever clean up operations were done in 1993

While this is not much information, it does prove that there are still were hardly sufficient to clean up the mess that is Camp Hero. With
hazardous materials out there and that a clean up operation was in more and more evidence pointing to the hazardous conditions on and
progress at least as late as 1993. I plan to head out to the DEC office late near the base, one must wonder why the small community living
this year and continue to dig up whatever information they have and post adjacent to the base isn't demanding more action. Why would a senior
it here. citizens center be erected just outside the main gate of such a dangerous
place? As usual, more questions. I will post more environmental
A week later I was having a conversation about the Montauk project information about the Camp Hero area as I acquire it.
with a woman I know. She told me that an employee from Cashion &
Associates comes to her job on a weekly basis to audit her company. She My stepmother had recently told me that her best friend had an
stated that she was on a pretty friendly basis with the woman and she experience with Camp Hero and the caves that are supposedly in the
would ask her what results the survey of the Camp Hero area they area. Apparently my stepmother and her friends spent a lot of time out
recently concluded had yielded. The woman said she would look into it on the East End in the seventies and eighties. She said that the younger
for her and get back to her the following week when she returned. kids that they knew would always ask the adults if they would like to go
play in the caves out by the lighthouse. Of course the adults would never
Many weeks passed before the woman returned to my friends company. go with the kids, until my stepmother's best friend agreed to. I finally got
This is strange because she is supposed to be there every Thursday. my stepmother and her friend to sit down at a table so we could discuss
When the woman finally returned she seemed to avoid my friend. This is the events.
also unusual because it is my friend that this woman usually meets with.
When my friend finally grabbed this woman and asked her about Camp The woman had no idea that I was going to bring up the subject of
Hero, she stated coldly that the man in charge of that survey was no Montauk so she was unable to prepare for it. When I first asked her
longer with Cashion & Associates and that my friend would have to file about the incident she said she had no idea what I was talking about. My
a Freedom of Information Act form to receive any information. My stepmother described how all of the young boys would ask them if they
wanted to go play in the caves. She finally said that she did remember and appeared to be in his late to early thirties with a beard. It also looked
the event. I had to prod her to tell me anymore than that. She said that as though he had two children in the back seat. Perhaps the driver merely
yes she had been to the caves. When I asked her what happened there made a wrong turn somewhere and realized it when he came to the
she stated that they never made it to the caves. When I pointed out that rough section of road. Whatever his reason for being there, it was a
she just said she was there she replied with, "Yes we were there. Wait, strange way to start the weekend.
we weren't there. There was a fence. No I was never there." My
stepmother and I looked at each other wondering what her friend was Another few minutes passed when we began to hear the distinct sound of
talking about. For the next half of an hour this woman continued to a helicopter flying nearby. The sound continued to grow in volume and
contradict herself. She would begin to describe the caves and then we realized that the helicopter was approaching and was very low. While
backtrack and say they had never been there. She even at two points hoping that my friends heard the chopper and would return, the
during the conversation said she never went with the boys anywhere and helicopter appeared just over the treetops. Some anxiety was relieved
was with the adults the whole time that night. The whole conversation when we saw that it was a small, dark blue helicopter with, if I
she was nervous looking and fidgety. Convinced that the woman was remember correctly, a number 10 painted on it. It looked as though it
thoroughly confused about the whole event, we ended the conversation. was a news helicopter for a television station. Why it was right here,
moving so slowly, and so low that I could have thrown a rock into the
Later on my stepmother and I discussed the interview. We are convinced cockpit, is still a mystery however. The helicopter then turned and
that something happened on that night. Not remembering a particular moved off. My friends returned from their ten-minute hike and we
night fifteen years ago is not strange. With this woman however, it was headed home for the night.
more like she refused to remember or was prevented from remembering.
It was almost as if a program went off in her head that deliberately When we got back home we decided to do an equipment check for the
seemed to scramble her memories of the event. I know it sounds far- following day's excursion. Our priority was to make sure that the several
fetched but I can think of no other reason for such strange reactions to two-way radios that we brought along were in good working condition.
our questions. When the woman left the table at the conclusion of our After putting new batteries into the equipment we did a distance check
conversation she appeared pale and quite shaken. I wish I could on them. Our low-powered radios checked out good for almost a mile.
articulate better the weirdness of the interview. My stepmother has Our higher powered radios that were capable of transmitting and
known this woman many, many years and said she had never seen her receiving for over two miles also checked out to be in fine working
act so strangely. It was disturbing to say the least. The Montauk Project order. Our plan for the next day was to split into two groups of two and
was allegedly going full steam in the early eighties. Was her memory start our hike at different points while keeping in radio contact the whole
wiped or fragmented? What actually happened that night? From what I time. My friend also checked that his digital camera was operating
have been told, my uncle reacts the same way when asked to talk about correctly. It was.
his experiences out at Camp Hero.
The next day we headed out towards the base. I dropped off the two new
I recently found out that I have an uncle that did some work out at Camp members at the 'woodpile' spot. Before they headed down the road we
Hero for AT&T in the early eighties. I have been told that when asked checked the radios. Everything was fine. After dropping Team 2 off we
about his work there he has very cloudy and contradicting memories of it headed to the lighthouse parking lot to begin our hike from the
and does not seem to like to talk about his experiences. While I have not Fisherman's Entrance. Before reaching Route 27 I tried to raise the other
interviewed him personally about his experience, I plan to do so before team on the radio. Nothing. I didn't think much of it as I thought that
the end of the year. If his story is anywhere as strange as the previous perhaps my vehicle's engine was causing interference that would clear
interview was it should be quite interesting. once we were on foot again. As we pulled into the lighthouse parking lot
we saw, stopped in the middle of the lot, two Parks Police SUV's. One of
Investigative Report #7: them was our old friend with license plate number 9 972 Report #3), but
Excursion Date: September 5, 1999 - Report Written: October 12, 1999 with a different officer behind the wheel. We parked the car and headed
to the Fisherman's Entrance.

Once at the gate we tried to raise the other team on the radio. No luck.
Arrangements were finally made to include more people in our trips out We continued down the road and approached the area of the strange 90-
to the Camp Hero area. It was going to be a party of five but turned out foot antenna (Report #2 ). The radio started to make some noise and I
to be four. Two others that would be visiting the area for the first time thought it was the other team trying to raise us. It ended up just being
joined my regular companion and myself. The trip was arranged to some chirps, beeps, and noise. The noise continued to grow in intensity
basically give the two new members a general idea and layout of the and volume as we approached the antenna. As we passed and moved
area. away from the antenna, the noise diminished and the radio once again
went silent. Strange.
On September 4th we headed out towards the base. The purpose of this
day's activities was to just show the area by car. We would set of on foot We continued walking down Old Montauk Highway and decided to try
the following day. Our first stop was to show the new members the to raise the other team when we got near the handicapped parking spots
entrance to the area at the end of Old Montauk Highway. The first for the Camp Hero Fishing Permit holders. The radio crackled and we
strange thing we noticed was that the woodpile (Report #1 ) that blocked could barely make out the voice of one of the other team members. We
the road had recently been removed. The NO PARKING signs had started to walk down towards the beach as we tried to re-establish
also been removed. Perhaps the removal of the woodpile and the communications. Finally we were able to hear each other loud and clear.
changing of some of the signs on the trails near the Fisherman's Entrance To our surprise we would find out a few seconds later that we were
is an indication that one phase of a secret cleanup operation is complete. practically on top of one another. The other team was standing on the
beach no further then a hundred feet from us. How a set of radios that
The two new members decided to take a short walk down the road while checked out just hours earlier as having an effective range of 2 miles be
my companion and myself stayed with the car. After about a minute a all of a sudden limited to just a couple of hundred feet? Again, just more
dark colored SUV came up the road and proceeded to drive down into questions.
the newly opened section of Old Montauk Highway. I must point out
that although the woodpile has been removed, this section of the road is While we regrouped on the beach my friend told me that his digital
by no means vehicle-friendly. It is not maintained and is steep and very camera that had also worked fine just hours earlier was now apparently
rough at some points. Only seconds later the SUV came backing out of dead and useless. He was unable to take even a single photo. He also
the woods, made a U-turn and drove off. While the vehicle was making said that he tried to call my cellular phone but said he could not get a
it's U-turn we were able to get a good look at the driver. He was white signal on his. I never checked mine that day but know I never had a
problem with it during any of my other visits to the area. Complete that matter, please take appropriate precautions against these nasty little
equipment failure. What the hell was going on here? Interference? If so, critters.
from what? A Star Trek-like energy dampening field? Voodoo? Black
magic? I have no answers. We decided to continue down the beach and The following is an excerpt from Team 2's report describing an
pick up the coastline search where we had ended it a few weeks earlier. encounter that they had while standing near the southwest entrance to
Finding nothing too unusual, we climbed one of the bluffs and decided the base:
to head out to the woods trail near the southwest entrance to the base. It A few seconds later we were approached by two men, they appeared to
was time to check out the Beast Bunker again, as our new team had be hikers, and I read them as so. We exchanged greetings and looked
never seen it. each other over. The first man was tall, about 6'1", thin, with dark hair
and full beard and mustache. He had a somewhat deep voice, and he
When we arrived at the entrance to the bunker with the semi-circular asked the first question.
overhang my friend put his pack down and we looked around. We "Which way on this trail will get us back to 27?"
noticed that someone had broken open a small hole in the cement wall. I pointed westerly and replied, "Just go down the trail this way and you'll
Upon closer examination we found that wall was made with steel come to a paved road. Stay on that road and you'll get right to 27."
reinforcing bars embedded in it. A tight way to seal the bunkers for The second guy was smiling a sinister looking smile and was looking at
sure. It was pitch black inside the bunker and we could not see anything the gate with the gaping hole in it. He was a shorter guy, about 5'6", was
through the hole. My friend got out a night vision scope to peer inside clean shaven, and was carrying a walking stick. He looked over at me
and amazingly the scope still worked. It was difficult to get a good angle and asked," So this is the road out of here? I hear that if we go through
with it and even with the help of laser pointers to help illuminate the this fence that we can go to a tower on the base. Is that right about what I
interior we could not ascertain what was inside. I took out a regular heard? "
camera and held it through the hole hoping that the flash would enable I looked at him and tried not to change the expression on my face. I
some decent photos. I took a few shots and got them developed a week thought for a second and then replied " this is our first time out here, and
later. I must add that there was a cold air blowing out through the hole I'm not too familiar with everything. I just know that if you go this way
in the wall. That was strange because it was a dry air instead of a damp you'll get back to the main road."
air that should probably be present. It was a constant blowing and it was "So you don't know much about the base?" said the first man.
unusually cold. "All I know is if you go in be cautious, because with the crowds, and
because of the big weekend, security is probably a lot tighter".
Team 2 decided to climb up on top of the bunker. I grabbed my friends "Yea you might be right". said the second man. "Thanks for the
pack and we followed suit. We went through some pretty thick directions".
overgrowth to reach the top. We searched around on top of the bunker "no problem" I said and "Good luck".
and did not find anything unusual. I then climbed out onto the bunker's We turned away and started walking up the trail. I turned back to get a
overhang to snap a few pictures of the nearby SAGE radar dish. We look at were the two men had gone and they vanished. Where to, I have
climbed down from the top of the bunker and circled around to check no idea.
out the other entrances. We stopped at a hole in the fence to look at one
of the old abandoned buildings. We continued around the bunker and Fellow investigators or lookouts? Who's to say?
came across a spill stopper/absorber lying in the woods. This long
sock-like item is used in the event of a toxic liquid spill. It is placed in Investigative Report #8:
the path of the liquid to stop and absorb it. Both my friend and I are Excursion Date: September 19, 1999 - Report Written: October 26, 1999
familiar with these absorbers, as we have both used them on our jobs.
This would appear as more evidence of a recent clean-up operation or
accident.
Our seventh excursion was on Saturday, September 19th. This was
We continued around the bunker until we reached the entrance that has another trip to aquaint another two new members of the investigative
the exposed pipes and conduits running underneath it. The first thing team to the Camp Hero area. The four of us would not split up during
we noticed was that someone had placed little hot-pink flags in the this trip. We did our usual tour of the entrances to the area including a
ground. The little flags were marked with letters and numbers such as little ride through the community adjacent to Camp Hero that we have
B3-5 and B3-6. We decided to pocket two of them. These may have less then affectionately dubbed "The Village of the Damned."
been markers left behind by the recent survey team from Cashion
Associates to indicate problems that have to be corrected. As we We started out our trip by checking out Old Montauk Highway by car.
approached the conduits and pipes we could again feel unusually cold, After seeing that the road was still unobstructed (by strange woodpiles
dry air blowing out from within. I have been to this location several (Report #1 ), or other means) we proceeded to the main entrance of the
times before and never felt any air coming from the bunker. Was it base. The main gate area seemed to look just as it did two weeks earlier.
possible that there was an underground ventilation or air-conditioning We then checked out the "Senior Citizens' Center". The "center" was
system operating on this day? We decided to call it a day and head back. deserted as usual with no signs of any recent activity.
On our way out we came across what appeared to be a concrete manhole
cover slightly raised up with one of the little flags next to it. A friend We then did a short tour of "The Village of the Damned." The air of
and myself were able to pull it aside. About four feet down there was a strangeness of course lingered as we drove through. We pointed out the
valve. We figured it was just a shut-off valve for the nearby fire hydrant, pitiful excuse of a playground, the various locked shacks, a fenced off
replaced the cover, and headed back. area, and the proximity of the houses to the perimeter fence of the base
to the new members. After our little tour we decided to exit the
We walked back towards the lighthouse parking lot. I had shut my radio neighborhood. As we drove out on the only road we had to stop because
off earlier but my friend still had his on. When we approached the 90- of some kids playing in the street. The group of kids, consisting of boys
foot antenna his radio began to act much the same way that mine had a and girls of various ages, were strangely enough, all blonde-haired and
few hours earlier. At least I know the problem wasn't with just my blue-eyed. Some sat, some stood, and some sat on bikes in the middle of
antenna. We looked at each other curiously and headed to the car. the road oblivious to our waiting car. When they finally noticed us they
parted and allowed us to pass. When we got past the group, a boy of
The next day, one other member and myself discovered several ticks on about twelve years of age rode up alongside our car and began to shout
our bodies. We were forced to forget about the activities we had planned out "RESTRICTED AREA! RESTRICTED AREA!" Why would a kid
for the next six days and leave Montauk. We are now anxiously awaiting so young ever think of shouting something like that at a group of
blood test results for Lyme disease. Take this as a warning: If you are complete strangers? A warning, a joke, or a plea for help? Strange
headed out to Montauk and Camp Hero or any other wooded area for spooky place, this neighborhood.
 there we again saw the group of people that were looking for their dog
We proceeded to show the new members the Camp Hero ballfield area. on the other side of the gate. The child was silent and sat on the ground
Nothing different here on this day. We drove to the lighthouse and staring at us. The woman who had talked to us earlier just stared and
parked the car. We walked to the Fisherman's Entrance and down Old said nothing. In fact none of them said anything. They just stared. We
Montauk Highway. We pointed out the usual: the old shack, the parking walked past them and headed back toward the lighthouse. What was that
lot, the strange antenna, and all that other good stuff. We walked further all about? Didn't they have better things to do then just stand there and
down the road and saw a spot that looked like it may have been a path at wait for us to emerge from the base? Didn't they have a dog to look for?
one time. We pushed through the overgrowth and came to somewhat of a Did I mention they all had blonde hair?
clearing. Here we found another concrete manhole that had the iron
handles on the lid sawed off. Our next time out we will try to pop the On the way back to the lighthouse we decided to walk along the beach.
lid off and see what lies beneath. It may be just another fire hydrant We found nothing along the water that we hadn't seen before so we
shut-off valve but we did not see any fire hydrants near by. Lying several called it a day. Later that night the group of us was hanging out on the
feet away was an old utility pole that seems to have been here for deck of our house out there. I was sitting with my back to the moon
sometime. which was low on the horizon. While talking to my friend who was
facing the moon he interrupted and said "what the hell is that?" As I
We went back to the road and proceeded down Old Montauk Highway turned to look over my shoulder towards the moon I saw a bright flash
towards the southwest entrance. When we got near the entrance we came out of the corner of my eye. Turning to look at the moon I saw nothing
across a man holding a dog's leash. He looked at us and then slipped unusual. My friend stated that what he had saw was the strangest thing
through the hole in the gate and walked into the base. We continued on he had ever seen in the sky.
towards the woods trail and came across two women and a young girl.
They explained that their dog had run off and they were looking for her. The following excerpt is from his report describing the event:
They asked us if we could keep an eye out for a yellow Labrador that UFO SIGHTING
answered to the name Amy. We said we would and continued on. The Following is an eyewitness account of an unknown celestial event.
The approximate duration of the event was six seconds.
We then went to the edge of the woods trail and started down it towards
the Beast Bunker. When we got there I wanted to show the new Located closer to the moon than any star or planet visible with the naked
members the hole in the wall that we found two weeks earlier at the eye, there existed a swelling yellow light which was about twice the size
entrance with the semi-circular overhang (Report #7 ) To my surprise, of the standard point of light produced by a star or planet. To give a
the hole had since been cemented over. I am curious as to who would precise location; the object appeared near the southwest hemisphere of
patch the hole. I guess it had to be the New York State Parks Department the moon which was dark at the time. The moon was in its last quarter
or the people that I believe are cleaning up the area when no one is stage.
looking. We then circled around the bunker to the entrance that had the
exposed pipes and conduits running beneath the ground. When we After two to three seconds of observation the light began to become
examined the pipes we noticed that there was no cool dry air blowing animated. First, the light flared up to about four times its previous size.
out from the bunker (Report #7) like there had been two weeks earlier. Next, the light shrank and became red. At that point, the red light shrank
We also noticed that there was some debris lying nearby that had not at a very fast rate. The sudden minimizing of size, and the lack of a
been there before. The garbage consisted of some wood, metal plates, a streak or trail gave the impression that the object, which produced the
small gate, and part of some ventilation shafting. Can people still insist light jettisoned away from my position. Coupled with Edwin Hubble's
that there is no activity going on here? discovery that light appears red when moving away from an observer, I
believe that it is highly possible that the object sped off.
We then decided to head back up the trail to the road. Waiting at the edge
of the trail on Old Montauk Highway was the group that was looking for End of event.
the dog including the man with the leash. The little girl was crying. One
of the women asked us how far down the trail we had gone and if we had
seen Amy. We told them no and that we would continue to keep our eyes
peeled. We started back towards the lighthouse. When we got to the Well I am glad I'm not the only one.
southwest entrance we decided that looking for a little girl's lost dog was
reason enough to justify our being on the base. In summary, the days events: Two new members acquainted with the
area; more evidence that the people in "The Village of the Damned" are
We slipped through the hole in the fence and proceeded up the dirt road. a little strange; another manhole discovered; evidence of activity near
This was the first time that any of us had entered the base at this the Beast Bunker; a little more knowledge of the layout of the base; and
location. A few hundred feet up the road we came upon an asphalt road. another sighting in the night sky of something we can't explain.
We could go straight up the road but figured that would only lead us into
the heart of the base where security would most likely be tighter. We We have two more trips to the area planned for November. Until then,
made a right and followed the road in that direction. Several hundred keep asking questions.
feet down the road we came to a building that had several tall utility
poles near it. The dish was nearby so we snapped a picture of it from Investigative Report #9:
an angle that we had not seen before. The building had the customary Excursion Date: April 8, 2000 - Report Written: April 28, 2000
Hazardous Area - No Trespassing sign stenciled on one of its walls. Near
the building was a concrete slab that had several conduits coming out of
it that were cut even with the slab. In these conduits appeared to be
several old lead telephone cables. We entered the building and snooped Well first of all I must apologize for the length of time since the last
around a bit. This building was in shambles and appeared to be a power report. Unfortunately the place I stay at in Montauk isn't winterized so
and communications center at one time. The walls had many electrical it's a bit too cold for me to stay out there during the colder months. I did
boxes on them and the floor tiles lifted up in spots to reveal conduits make an exception on two weekends this winter though. Now that it is
beneath. One wall had mounted on it an old telephone cross-connection warming up I expect to be out there again on a pretty regular basis. I of
box that was capable of handling several hundred phone lines. Perhaps course will keep you all updated.
this was the central location that delivered electric and telephone service
to the rest of the base. We poked around a bit and then left. I did celebrate New Years Eve out in Montauk and spent the weekend.
Because of the festivities I was unable to tramp around Camp Hero but I
We walked back down the road to the southwest entrance. When we got did get a chance to do a quick drive-by of the base. Someone, I assume
the Parks Department, has fixed the main gate at the entrance to the
base. Seems like they straightened it all out and put it back on its track On the opposite side of the clearing, across from the third bunker was
after whatever it was smashed into it. The gate was back in its proper another small structure. This building had two entranceways that led
place and was open. I didn't enter the base. I also drove past the ball into two different small rooms. There were small vents in the back of
field and noticed that they changed the sign on the road leading into the each of these rooms. Judging by the size and shape of this structure, one
base. The AREA CLOSED sign has been removed and a DO NOT might guess that it was a latrine. On the floor of the room on the right
ENTER sign has been put up. I must assume that someone stole the were several empty bags of Sakrete concrete sand mix. I wonder what
AREA CLOSED sign and took it home as a souvenir. Those were my was recently cemented over?
only observations that weekend.
After snooping around all of the concrete structures, we started to climb
I spent Valentine's Day weekend out in Montauk as well. We stayed in up one of the sand embankments nearby. When we got to the top we
the beautiful old Montauk Manor. I'm only mentioning this because it pushed our way through some overgrowth and found ourselves about
was alluded to in one of the books that the Manor played some part in thirty feet above Fort Pond Bay. The view was absolutely magnificent.
the project. After checking into the room and searching the place for We could see Montauk Manor on the other side of the bay. This was
hidden surveillance devices (you can never be too careful), I did a little truly one of the most beautiful spots I have seen yet in Montauk. To our
exploring of the place. I went into the basement and poked around a bit left we could see some sort of dock extending out into the bay. It was a
but was unable to sneak into any of the closed, unmarked doors because bit too steep here to climb safely down to the water so we backtracked
of the abundance of security cameras that were scattered around the our way to Navy Road.
hotel. I also went upstairs to walk past the 'haunted' room that is
mentioned in one of the books. I didn't hear anything go bump in the Once on Navy Road again we headed in the direction of the dock. We
night or have any specters chase me through the halls so I guess it's all followed the road until we came upon another clearing. This area was
just a myth. Not a thorough search of the place by any means of course quite a bit different from the other one because a very large part of the
but I thought I'd let you know that I didn't find anything out of the ground here was concrete. The float used by the Montauk Fire
ordinary in my short stay there. Department in this year's St. Patrick's Day parade was abandoned here.
There was also a circle of ash left here where apparently a nice size fire
On the weekend of April 8th I decided I would do a little more 'serious' once burned. I wonder where the Fire Department volunteers partied
looking around out in Montauk. Because of somewhat inclement after the parade? Hmm... The only thing I found curious was the large
weather and the fact that I slept away almost the entire weekend, I didn't pile of discarded pallets left here, like the ones left near Camp Hero's
get as much accomplished as I had hoped. Every time I'm in Montauk I 'Beast Bunker'. (Report#1 ) We walked to the water and discovered a
feel sleepy and drained all the time. Does anyone else feel that way out ramp that led right into the bay. This area was obviously used to store
there? It must be the air, or maybe...The DISH??? My companion and I and launch boats.
decided to check out the old abandoned submarine base that we have
heard mentioned so frequently lately. While I don't believe the Not far from the concrete area was another area that had sand
submarine base was connected to the 'project' in anyway we decided to embankments around it. There were a few structures here along with
check the place out just for curiosity's sake. I have included a map that I the remains of some buildings. One particularly odd building was right
have taken from MapQuest.com and edited to show where the area is near the water. Directly in front of the entrance to this structure is the
located. remains of the long dock or wharf. Inside the building is a long dark
tunnel. It was filled with debris of all sorts. If I am ever to enter the
We drove to the west end of Navy Road, which is closer to our place tunnel to check it out it will have to be a trip that I am more
then Camp Hero, until we got to a locked gate in the road. The gate had appropriately dressed and carrying a flashlight. The roof of this building
a NO VEHICLES sign on it along with a warning about hunting in the right near the entrance was made out of metal. It was shaped like a
area. We parked the car on the side of the road and went in on foot square funnel with a hole in the center of it. Perhaps this was some sort
since it was outside the listed hunting dates posted on the fence. The of loading facility. Stuff could be dumped through the roof into waiting
Long Island Railroad tracks are just several feet from the south edge of mine-like cars and then either brought into the tunnel or sent out onto the
this road. We walked down the road a couple of hundred feet and it is wharf to waiting watercraft.
intersected by another road. We turned right onto the road and ended up
in a clearing a little further down it. Not far from there was another building. This building appeared
relatively intact. A chain link fence that was topped with barbed wire
When we got to the clearing we noticed several hard to miss concrete surrounded it. Most of the building was also surrounded by dense
structures. The bunker/shelter type things were pretty small, only about overgrowth. The rotting, smelly carcass of a raccoon sized animal
twenty-five feet square and maybe twelve feet high. The first one we blocked the one side of the building that was free of vegetation. Again,
came to was kind of out in the open and was covered in graffiti. One not being properly dressed or overly motivated, I did not jump the fence
side of the clearing, just beyond this bunker, was a huge mound of dirt to inspect the small building. Maybe next time.
and sand that almost looked like a huge sloping wall. The bunkers have
a narrow entrance way to them on the left side with an entrance to a We then walked a little further and came to one of the Hither Woods
room near the end of it. I have made a rough overhead cutaway sketch of hiking trails. There was a map of the park here along with a NO
the bunker so you can get a better idea of it's overall shape. Entering VEHICLES sign posted here. We proceeded to start walking down one
the room revealed a fairly clean, intact shelter. On either side of the of the trails. Several hundred feet into the woods we heard the noise of a
entrance way there were small vent-like openings near the floor. large caliber weapon. Fearing gunshots and the rapidly setting sun we
decided to call it a day. On the way out we noticed a couple of cinder
We checked out the next bunker and it was pretty much identical to the block structures that were only a few feet in height. One of them had
first. The third bunker had an asphalt walkway leading up to it. This several blocks missing and I was able to poke my head in for a look
bunker had some trash in it and a large piece of plywood on the floor. I around. The room appeared to be a very small basement for whatever
started to move the plywood aside to see what was underneath when a once stood above it. Some piping and old electrical equipment could be
couple of rats of a size that would make a New York City subway rat seen. Nothing of any particular interest was noted here. On the way
jealous, scurried out from a dark corner. Needless to say I high-tailed it back to Navy Road I climbed up one of the sandy mounds and took a
the hell out of there. Some tough investigator I make, huh? All but the picture of the area.
first of the bunkers were somewhat set into the earthen mounds that
surround the clearing they are in. I wonder if the first one was also Judging by the easy accessibility of the entire area, I seriously doubt that
buried at one time and has recently been unearthed. There was a small this old submarine base was involved in any way with the Montauk
earth-moving machine parked nearby on the main road into the area. Project. There are no signs warning against trespassing or any other
indications of off-limits areas. There are only a few things that I'm the planet reflected those on it. The reasons why they wanted nothing to
curious about. What are all the sandy mound areas about? Has stuff been do with us is that from their perspective, Earth humans don't respect
dumped here and covered up for years now? Have these areas been dug themselves, each other or the planet. What possibly can be the value of
out and the large mounds are all that's left of what used to be higher Earth humans?
ground? Were they here all along and used in some defensive way at the
time the base was in operation? What were the small bunkers used for? Fortunately, the majority of the council gave the opinion that because
Did they provide safety against incoming enemy artillery? What was the Earth has been manipulated for over 5,700 years, that we deserved an
tunnel and long wharf used for? opportunity to prove ourselves - to at least have a shot at proving the
other part of the council wrong. So, the Andromedan council passed a
While the trip didn't reveal any evidence of the Montauk Project, I directive that all extraterrestrial presence will be off our planet no later
thought we should check it out just because so many people have been than August 12, 2003.
asking about it lately. I did find evidence as to why the Long Island
Railroad slows to a crawl in this area (this has been mentioned to me [ Vals Note: Isn't it also curious that August 12, 2003 is also a resonant
several times as being strange.) At one point there is a fairly sharp turn node for the Montauk Project? - 1943, 1983, 2003 - all 20 years apart.
in the tracks. Once the train leaves the submarine base area it practically Also, in 12-year progressions, 1931,1943,1955, 1967, 1979, 1991, 2003.
rolls through the backyards of the small waterfront houses and motel The implications are interesting. The year 2002 was also designated the
nearby. The train is literally only about fifty feet from the back of some new target date for implementation of the New World Order, one year
of these houses. I'm sure the slow down is just a courtesy to the residents prior to 2003]
and guests in the area. I hope to be back out at Camp Hero in the next
couple of weeks and will of course report my findings. They want everything extraterrestrial on the planet, in the planet and
Earth's moon out of here by that date. The reason for this is that they
want to see how we will act when we are not being manipulated. We are
all being manipulated, and my first suggestion is to throw your television
Alex Collier - on Reptilians set away. I can't tell you how sincere I am about that. They are teaching
The Rest of the Galactic Hierarchy you what to think, not how to think. If you give that up, you become a
.... and the Rest of the Story robot. You become sheeple. I know it's going to be tough.
Leading Edge Interview by Val Valerian
Leading Edge Website This determination that ET influence will end by August 12, 2003 will
be interesting, because living inside our planet 100 to 200 miles under
archived 12-10-99 the surface are 1837 reptilians who have been here a very long time, 17
Archive file# co121099b humans from Sirius B, and 18000 Grey clones inside the Earth and on
donated by Jocelyn Savage the moon. Most of the 2000 original Greys are on Phobos, one of the
moons of Mars, which is an artificial satellite. There are also around 141
Orion beings inside the Earth from 9 different races. There are a lot of
"We are going to change the system "bad boys" here who have technology thousands of years ahead of us. It
by realizing that we are the only authority, is estimated that Grey technology is 2,500 years ahead of us. The Orion
and this authority is not outside." group who control the Greys have technology approximately 3,700 years
Guylaine Lanctot, M.D. ~ The Medical Mafia ahead of us. Nobody really knows how far the Draconians are, because
they are incredibly elusive. The group from Sirius B are approximately
932 years ahead of us.

The Rest of the Galactic Hierarchy .... and the Rest of the Story: A Picture Tells a Thousand Words:

We'll look at the positives. There are so many that want to help. For They have a camera that they can take a picture and separate it out to get
those of you who are "trekkies", you know the number one rule. You data all the way back to conception. Say I have a liver problem. They
don't intervene with an evolving race unless you're asked. That happens can go back and get the data relative to my healthy liver and project it
to be a reality. They will not directly intervene - at least they are not holographically and heal the liver. This is holographic technology. It is
supposed to - unless they are specifically asked to. Those people who are literally me, healing myself. We have the same capabilities using our
contactees have a reincarnational lineage that leads back to many of minds. The key is to open it up to the idea that everything that we record
these positive races, which is why it is not considered intervention. in our mind is recorded holographically. Every single thought is
recorded holographically. When you are trying to create something in
Now, in our galaxy there are many councils. I don't know everything your life, through your mediations, don't look at it the way you normally
about all those councils, but I do know about the Andromedan council, do. Move around it, behind it, on top of it, beneath it. Train you mind
which is a group of beings from 139 different star systems that come and sunconscious to see it for what it really is. They say we have this
together and discuss what is going on in the galaxy. It is not a political ability - they need technology to do this, but we don't, because we have
body. What they have been recently discussing is the tyranny in our the benefit of already having been on 11th density.
future, 357 years from now, because that affects everybody. Apparently
what they have done, through time travel, is that they have been able to source:
figure out where the significant shift in energy occured that causes the http://www.trufax.org
tyranny 357 years in our future. They have traced it back to our solar Leading Edge
system, and they have been able to further track it down to Earth, Earths Val Valerian
moon and Mars. Those three places.
Leading Edge Interview with
The very first meeting the Andromedan council had was to decide Drunvalo Melchizedek
whether or not to directly intervene with what was going on here. ( Dec. 1995 )
According to Moraney, there were only 78 systems that met this first
time. Of those 78, just short of half decided that they wanted nothing to
do with us at all, regardless of the problems. I think it is really important Leading Edge Interviews Drunvalo Melchizedek
that you know why they wanted nothing to do with us. We are talking Interview Conducted on December 22, 1995
about star systems that are hundreds of millions of light years away from (c) 1995 Leading Edge Research
us. Even some who have never met us. They just knew the vibration of http://www.cco.net/~trufax
 based on other principles. This creation was based on the concept of a
very simple idea - the sphere. Everything in this existence and every law
Drunvalo Melchizedek is the main proponent of the revival of an ancient of physics is located within a sphere. Its provable. From our way of
form of meditation and breathing technique geared toward mastering the looking at it, there was an aspect of God that was translated into this
creation of the Merkaba, often referred to as the vehicle for ascension. world that actually existed in other ways before. These are words that in
His Flower of Life workshops are world- famous and are detailed in no way can possibly express the truth.
Matrix IV. Drunvalo has devoted his life exclusively to reawakening
awareness in the human population through the study of sacred geometry Val: In one lecture conducted by Robert Morning Sky, he discussed the
and the practice of the Merkaba meditation. notion that within each Universe there is an ultimate being who has the
most experience, who is at any time replaced by another with more
(Posted to Snet Mailing List by [email protected] (Blue Resonant experience. Does this seem accurate to you?
Human)
on Friday, February 9th, 1996) Drunvalo: Yes, and that being is not a being as we think of a being, but is
a level of consciousness that contains many cells like our body does. It
could be comprised of billions of souls as we now think of them, who
Val: There are people out there who have never heard of you or the have achieved a single level of thought. When Melchizedek originally
Flower of Life workshops. Could you explain your origins and how you divided and produced Christ consciousness, that immediately created a
got your last name? third component which is the summation of both of them - of All That Is.
That being is often called, in Hindu terms, the Supreme Personality. That
Drunvalo: Well, the origins and where I got my last name are kind of is the being that most religions pray to and see as the ultimate God. They
interrelated. First of all, the whole Universe is conscious and alive - give it a name and refer to it as the ultimate God, although it is not. It is
completely alive, and has been forever. Everything is not inanimate as it just the most conscious level of life.
seems - it is just made up of different levels of awareness of
consciousness, one way or another. Melchizedek consciousness is just Val: Why would Melchizedek consciousness budd off to create another
another aspect of the One consciousness. It was that aspect that stepped part of itself?
into this creation first. It was the first part of the consciousness of the
One God that existed before creation. When God decided to experience Drunvalo: Thats a good question, but I think it had to do with the
the creation that had been created - it was just a Void, really, original intent, which is what we are all living right now. An aspect or a
Melchizedek consciousness split into two, the other part being what we possibility of the original intent is that we would know separation and
call Christ consciousness. the idea of good and evil. I believe from where I am now thats why.
When someone is in human level, trying to interpret these higher levels,
Val: So Christ consciousness is a derivative of Melchizedek its really almost a joke, because those higher levels are an experience
consciousness? that cannot really be interpretable or accurately viewed from this level -
it is beyond words and beyond who and what we are at this level.
Drunvalo: Yes.
Val: Where do you yourself come into the process on the planetary
Val: How could you characterize Melchizedek consciousness relative to level? I think you mentioned at one time that part of your nature was as
Christ consciousness? an observer linked with the Melchizedek level of consciousness.

Drunvalo: The difference is that Melchizedek consciousness is formless Drunvalo: There were three very clear directives. The first one was to
in its original state. Christ consciousness was that aspect that began to simply watch the changes that were occurring. Its hard to understand
integrate into the possibility of form and manifestation. From there, there because we are in linear time and we think of past, present and future.
have been many many divisions within Christ consciousness which are There is a place where all things are happening at once. From that place,
seldom talked about that are further levels of existence which penetrate the person to whom you are now talking directed it into what you call
all the way down to where we are here. At this point, at least in terms of the past to be here now. The second directive was to bring the teaching
human consciousness, there are two directions that humans are moving of the Merkaba back so we could remember what that was about. The
in. There are those that are coming down through this division process to third one had to do with the study of relationships during this
these levels, descending, and there are those that are moving back up, extraordinary time that this planet is going through. My directive, from
which is an addition process, connecting to higher and higher levels of my Self to myself, was to become totally grounded in the Earth
consciousness which are simply interpretations of the One reality that experience, and to immerse myself in everything - all the problems and
there is. These interpretations, as you ascend, are accepted by everything else, not to remain removed and to not use higher aspects of
increasingly larger groups of beings. When you ascend to higher levels my Self to help myself. I had to be here in all ways as a human and to
of consciousness, you actually merge with many other beings who find my way out of the problems of life, just as anyone else would.
accept that same reality.
Val: It is certainly an extraordinary role.
Val: A gradation of interpretation of the Is-ness.
Drunvalo: It is no different to that of everyone else here. Everyone is
Drunvalo: Yes. There is really just One reality. So, what happens is that here in the same situation, and everyone is striving to find the higher
there is a cycle of Life with beings coming down and beings going up. level where we can transcend. It is becoming clear to more and more
They are all from one Spirit - from God. There is only One life force people that the Earth situation here is desperate. Even on a third
moving through everything. As life energy moves up through the planes dimensional level, there has to be a change or we are not going to make
it eventually arrives at the Melchizedek level. As a being moves through it. So, its a situation where its the only way one can learn, and the only
the 144 levels and steps into the next octave, through the Great Void, way God, or consciousness, can ever learn, is to step into a situation and
they become the original consciousness of Melchizedek. At that point, live it, become it, see what it is, and move on from there.
they know without a shadow of a doubt that everything that exists is
them. Val: What is the relationship between the use of belief systems and the
use of experiential systems?
Val: Where did the name Melchizedek come from?
Drunvalo: They are linked together. Whatever you experience, whatever
Drunvalo: Well, this is not the first creation. There have been many you are in the Is-ness, you make a conclusion from that which becomes a
many other creations. I dont know how many there have been that are belief.
 forward, and a certain number of beings will make the transition from
Val: In the Flower of Life workshop, you mentioned the existence of this level to the next. Its usually a very small number, and this is what
several grids supporting both life, species and consciousness. Would you many are called but few are chosen means. Very few usually have the
go into some further detail about those? You mentioned once that the insight, courage and other attributes to actually step into a higher level
Christ consciousness grid was complete in 1989. world.

Drunvalo: The grids are electromagnetic in nature. They are detectable. Val: A world that reflects 46+2 chromosomes. This time, however, you
They are not something outside of third dimensional reality, although mentioned that everyone would make the transition, and that was the
they have aspects beyond what we know in third dimensional reality. unique nature of this situation.
Their third dimensional aspect is electromagnetic in nature. Their
construction is geometric in nature, and moves along a line paralleling Drunvalo. Yes. You'll go through a mutation, both internally and
crystalline structure. Every single species and lifeform on this planet, in externally, where your chromosomes change from 44+2 to 46+2. You
order for them to exist, there has to be a structure. All of these grids are gain two more chromosomes. The other 44 are exactly the same as
different, and there are millions of them. Around the turn of the century humans now. These two additional chromosomes change everything.
there were 30 million of them. Now there are about 14 million of them
left. Val: What exactly is it with these two chromosomes?

Val: These grids are what Sheldrake was speaking of - morpho- genetic Drunvalo: Each chromosome is really a geometrical image, and within
grids? each of these huge amounts of information are contained. The DNA uses
this information to enable it to resonate with the higher-level Christ grid
Drunvalo: Yes. If you looked at the whole thing, thats how I would see on the next level.
the morphogenetic structure of the biosphere. The one grid is in reality
made up of millions. It comes off as a glow from the surface of the Val: There are some that maintain that humans had these extra
Earth, extending from about 60 feet into the Earth to about 60 miles chromosomes at one time and that they were deliberately removed.
above the Earth. Whenever a species comes into existence, a grid is
formed first, before a species can manifest. Before a species leaves, the Drunvalo: I assume you are talking about the Nephilim.
grid will dissolve or break down as its consciousness leaves.
Val: No. Just the general notion.
Val: Presumably, a grid would change to accommodate a change in
evolution of a species. Drunvalo: There are those that maintain this, and books that have been
written that maintain this was done on purpose. I do believe that there
Drunvalo: Thats another thing that happens. The grid will geometrically has been a tremendous amount of experimentation on humans in the
change, change in intensity, and change in other ways. The grid will past, and a lot of it was done on DNA and the spinal column. But, I feel
change as consciousness grows or evolves. All the grids are changing. that the problem that developed was not deliberate in the sense that
Some of them have very slow cycles. The highest form of evolutionary consciousness tried to stop them, but that we did it ourselves through
consciousness in 3-D form on the Earth we see as the whales, including what happened in Atlantean times, with the misuse of creation patterns.
the orca, followed by various species of dolphins. Under that come
humans. There are three totally different kinds of humans on the Earth, Val: In books like the Keys of Enoch, for example, you can take a peek
meaning that they perceive the One reality in three different ways, into the technology that allows photonic manipulation of DNA and the
interpreted differently. The first kind of human has a chromosome manipulative tendencies of the Jahovah complex of beings, presumably
composition of 42+2. They comprise a unity consciousness that does not at an earlier stage in their evolution when they felt they had to
see anything outside themselves as being separate from themselves. To manipulate and control.
them, there is only one energy - one life, one beingness that moves
everywhere. Anything happening anywhere is within them, as well. They Drunvalo: There was a lot of that.
are like cells in the body. They are all connected to a single
consciousness that moves through all of them. These are the aboriginals Val: It is for this reason that the Keys of Enoch is a useful piece of work
in Australia. There might be a few African tribes left like this. Then, to have on hand, in order to gain insight into what went on.
there is our level, comprising 44+2 chromosomes. We are a disharmonic
level of consciousness that is used as a steppingstone from the 42+2 Drunvalo: The Keys of Enoch is very valuable.
level to the next level, 46+2. We are dangerous to both ourselves and
nature, but we are necessary, and this can be seen within the various Val: What do you see now relative to these higher beings who did this,
geometries. and where it stands now on the apparent edge of critical mass.

The level above us relates to the grid you were speaking of that was Drunvalo: To answer that I have to come back to the discussion of
complete in 1989 - the Christ consciousness grid. It took almost 13,000 critical massing. Usually what is seen is a small number of beings
years to complete it. Over 83,000 sites around the planet were used by consciously making it through to the other side - the other level of the
higher consciousness to create the Christ grid. It was synthetically planet. Then, over a long long period of time, the Christ aspect would
created after the fall that happened 13,000 years ago. Now that it is in gradually pull the rest over. As it pulls them through and the Unity gets
place, it gives us the ability to move to the next level of consciousness, to a certain critical mass, suddenly it reaches a certain level and the
which many people call Christ consciousness, although it has other consciousness of the whole planet, overnight, transcends into this higher
names. That grid is extremely strong and is experiencing many changes level. We have reached critical mass on the Earth, but it has been on an
in its growth pattern. unconscious level. We are talking about consciously reaching it in the
model we just gave. We as a planet only have a very few people who are
Val: You were talking about the idea of critical mass relative to this grid? actually conscious of what is going on. The number is growing by the
minute. Most of the planet was connected to the Christ-grid
Drunvalo: Well, in all cases known by the Melchizedek consciousness unconsciously. In their hearts, these people no longer want to live the
prior to this one, Earth, there has always been a specific pattern of way that we are living. They dont like the war, rape, murder and all that
growth that planets have gone through. They have entered into this level garbage that we have now come in to. In their hearts, they want to live a
of consciousness where they see themselves as within a body, and that simpler, more connected spiritual way of life, without all this fear.
everything outside is separate. Its a very specific step in evolution, and Because so many people have unconsciously connected to this, we
they finally come to this point of unity where they make the step reached critical mass a long time ago, but nothing happened - it just kept
right on going. It almost happened, but thats a long story. polar shift that we are about to enter in to not only happens here - it
happens on every planet in the system at the same time. They discovered
Val: It almost happened back during the Gulf War, when the world was that the actual plane of the Sun was shifting and that the planets were all
united albeit against Saddam Hussein. The experience of being united, going to realign themselves, and that this was beyond their capability to
even against something, established a precedent to be expanded on in the deal with. They went through many changes very rapidly over a period
future. of seven to nine months where they came out and realized that they had
been lied to by the Greys and many ETs, and the true reason the Greys
Drunvalo: Right, exactly. We never totally went into unity. This has were here and what it was really about - that what the Greys were really
called the highest level of human awareness, which is termed the doing wasn't what they were telling the government.
ascended masters, to have to adapt to the situation, and they have
adapted by creating a controlled level of expansion, instead of reaching Val: What exactly was that, in a nutshell?
critical mass and suddenly going after the entire planet. So, the evolution
is happening. Where we are now is that we have reached a situation no Drunvalo: Well, the ETs came here and told the government they were
one has ever seen before, where in the hearts of man almost every person basically God and here for benevolent reasons, to help them evolve and
in the world is now connected to the Christ-grid consciousness. There all this other stuff. They wanted to do experiments and understand us
are very few that have not. more. So, they were going to do animal and human experiments in
exchange for more advanced technology.
Val: Some would probably ask the question: what would one expect to
see on a visible level to indicate that a change is in progress, when in Val: They are still doing the abductions and the cattle mutilations.
fact it seems so dark and chaotic out there?
Drunvalo: Yes, but there was a big gap in there, if you remember. There
Drunvalo: Well, as an example I might refer to what we talked about were thousands of mutilations all over the world and they suddenly
before about MGM studios recent poll of audience preferences which stopped, at least to that degree. That's when a huge translation was
indicated that the preference were moving away from sex and violence taking place in consciousness. They have resumed in the last four or five
toward things like ancient wisdom. That indicates an incredible change months, but on a minuscule level - nothing like it was before. They only
within us. This is here in the United States, one of the most die-hard need to know a little bit more, evidently. They didn't quite get done with
places in the world. It happened in a 90 day period - they conduct these what they had to do, although on one level they were done. They
polls every 90 days. understood that All-That-Is in this octave of the universe is about to
make a translation into another octave of universes - a huge change is
Val: It might seem that the way technology is going, what with Disney about to occur, and it occurs very very fast. It's already taking place on
owning ABC, Westinghouse owning CBS, General Electric owning many levels, and we are in the midst of it. The Greys knew that this was
NBC and Time Warner owning CNN, combined with advanced going to take place, and they also knew from their experiments that their
manipulative technology, some of which is reminiscent of Montauk, that particular type of race - a race based on the Luciferian understanding of
these trends would be countered to the degree that they are occurring. separation from the rest of reality - cannot create a living Merkaba field
because they have no emotional body - just a mental body, and they can
Drunvalo: Well, I realize that there is that potential and possibility, and I create only a technological Merkaba field - that is used to power their
realize that they are deeply exploring ways of controlling the emotions, physical craft. They are 100% dependent on technology to exist. They
thoughts and actions of people. I know that this is in place and that they can't take their technology through the Great Void. No object can pass
are going to proceed with it to the utmost degree. But, I also believe that through.
there has been a huge change within our government internally, because
they're seeing the biggest picture that they can see. They are getting to Val: So now the government, who has a vast collection of all these ET
the place where they are realizing that there has to be a different kind of spacecraft ...
approach to control, to a way of dealing with their environment. On the
highest levels of the secret government, they know that they can't reach Drunvalo: The government is not going to stop the direction that they are
separation like they have wanted to for a long time. going and what they are doing. They are in a position of money and
power, and they are also not going to stop their investigation into the
Val: The elite vs. Non-elite. Merkaba, but are at the same time now aware that the Greys are helpless
and had to come to us, because we still have an emotional body, which is
Drunvalo: Yes. They have realized that we are going through a critical to the creation of a living Merkaba field - or a living flying
dimensional consciousness change and that the nature of the reality is saucer from a low-level way of thinking about it.
that there is only One life force moving through it all. They have
realized that the idea of dualism isn't true. Val: So they created the hybrid program in an attempt to integrate the
human emotional body in order to save themselves?
Val: Since a lot of New World Order proponents have built all these
underground facilities in an effort to escape upcoming changes and Drunvalo: They cannot save who they are, but they can only save the
preserve the paradigm of elitism, I guess the joke is on them? essence of who they are by combining with us. By taking their genes and
human genes and mixing them together, they created a third totally
Drunvalo: Yes, it is. They know that all that stuff is worthless now. But, unique race. This race is different than both species.
they are not going to throw it away. I can tell you that for sure. They are
going to keep it in place. They are going to cover every one of their Val: What do you suppose the government thought about this?
bases. But, they know that it is not going to work. They know that, in
truth, even the lowest aspect of the population is connected. This idea Drunvalo: I dont think they totally understood what the Greys were up
has reached them pretty deeply. The secret government has a very high to, and as the Greys began to build underground cities around the planet,
level of understanding, and they have - at this point - very high levels of they became extremely strong. I am sure the government was even
experiential understanding. fearful at some stage. Once they had created this race, their intention was
to totally eliminate the human race and replace us on the planet with the
Val: How and when did that happen? hybrid race.

Drunvalo: It happened between 1985 and 1987, when they were Val: Wasn't this the goal of the reptilian species?
planning total separation and planning to move the elite en masse to
Mars, using the Moon as a transit station. Then, they found out that the Drunvalo: That is even a further removed scenario.
 know. I am not really concerned about them at this point. I think that
Val: The reptilians appear to be a matriarchal race with strong they might end up being more of an asset then anyone might ever guess
connections to government intelligence agencies. they'd be, in the future. I do feel that they have come along to a place
where they understand the Oneness.
Drunvalo: Yes, I think they do, but my inner guidance is not too
concerned about that, on who they are and what they are about. Val: They, specifically being who?

Val: On another level, a preoccupation with kinds of aliens, per se, Drunvalo: Whoever it is more or less in control. At the same time, I
reflects a preoccupation with body consciousness - body identification - know that they are going to continue to do what they are doing -
when in fact it is the entities using the bodies that are the operative everything they are doing to try to control the entire planet is not going
factor, not the bodies or the appearance thereof. In the final analysis it to stop. Also at the same time, they know that many factors are
makes the whole alien issue a moot point. completely out of their control. There is nothing they can do about it.
They are preparing us for it. They would not do that for a long time.
Drunvalo: Yes, I agree with that. It is a moot point really, but we were When the Roswell crash happened in 1947, they would not allow us to
talking about it from a third dimensional level. If you go to a higher know what took place there, probably because of what happened ten
viewpoint, its all one single body, and they are all just cells. All life years earlier with the war of the worlds broadcast, where people were
everywhere, just like the cells in a body, has a purpose and a specialized killing themselves. They decided not to say anything. They are now
function. It's all integrated. Life, on a bigger scale, is watching what is coming to the place where they have made the decision to let us know,
going on here. Life, on a bigger scale, could have stopped the Greys and and they are using the media to do that.
all those who are working with them, in a nanosecond if it wanted to.
But it didn't, because since we have components of Grey blood within Val: Things could well be done in such a way as to manipulate the
us, we are related to them. We are also part of the Lucifer Rebellion. population. In other words, present an external threat to the population in
They have a galactic legal right to do what they are doing. They cannot order to control it....
be stopped from a legal point of view. I am not saying that the Greys are
bad or good. It is what the intentions were, from a human point of view. Drunvalo: They could do that, but I don't think they will do that.
Actually, they are serving a very high purpose in what they are doing.
Val: Why not?
Coming back to the government, though, they have been through many
many steps in all of this. The government has now reached a point where Drunvalo: Because I think that the primary people in control there
they have made a really big change. I have seen that the FBI has been realize the nature of the change. It has penetrated into them. They know
connected to the work I have been doing from the very beginning, when they are not going to have a third dimensional base here much longer,
they came in and showed their badges and indicated that they wanted to anyway. They know that we are going to move as an Earth-Soul into
study what I was doing. At one point, the FBI came in and said they another level. It's not going to be something where a certain person can
wanted to help me and give me money, and they wanted to see what I move ahead of the rest of the planet. The planet has to move as an
was doing, where it went and what the result would be. Of course, since individual, in terms of what is about to happen. The planet may make
I was talking about Merkaba energy fields, it was a big subject to them some changes in the inhabitants that are here now and rearrange the
because technologically equivalent fields are what power the UFOs. structures through space and time, so that everybody is in the place that
They wanted to know what it was all about. They didn't try to stop me. is most appropriate for them. I am not saying there will not be huge
Recently, the FBI was at my last workshop in November. Again, they changes in the near future that might involve many souls leaving this
came in and identified themselves. It is pretty clear that they are place, but all of it is for the purpose that Mother Earth comes into a place
extremely concerned, not just for the United States. The FBI has gone where the cells that are left - the people that are left - are in absolute
beyond that. They are concerned about the whole world, and keeping unity. Many of these will include people in the government. I think there
peace as much as possible during this transition. They know we are is going to be a big change. They know it, and they know that the kind of
going through a consciousness transition. They know what is happening things they are headed toward controlling with a big stick - forcing us to
on a lot of levels. stay in peace....if we did go into chaos, say if the stock market crashed,
and we are still here in the third dimension, they would probably use that
Val: It seems admirable on their part, but it is irreconcilable with what is stuff, because they know that the only way we're going to get out of here
happening externally - the nature of the presidential administrations, the in one piece is if we stay intact.
drug dealing, etc. How do you reconcile this whole thing?
Val: Some might ask, why would these self-declared elite care?
Drunvalo: You have to look at how it grew. What the structure was that
grew into it. It grew into a place where it was looking only at the United Drunvalo: Because they now know that you and I and them is really
States and the fearful nature of all of that. You have to look at how One. They do know that.
economic factors have collapsed all over the world, and yet we are still
supposed to be the big guys that support the structure of everything. So, Val: It's almost too good to be true that they would get out of the
they have resorted to the same means that people in New York City have Darwinian/Malthusian control paradigms.
resorted to. The city is economically collapsed. If you took drug money
out of New York City, the city would be destroyed over night. Drunvalo: I'm not saying that they want to change the status quo of
things like the financial aspects of the planet. I don't think they are even
Val: Do you feel that the proportion of the faction within the so-called considering that.
elite that understands this will ever grow to the point where you will
have a perceptible sociological positive "we might as well do it the right Val: They will run it until it can run no more?
way" type of change?
Drunvalo: Well, they are looking at a short-term thing here. We don't
Drunvalo: I don't see that right away. have a lot of time left here.

Val: So, we'll go through the transition before that would ever happen? Val: The time compression wave indicates a large structure- breaking
plunge into a novelty-creating situation around February 1996. How do
Drunvalo: Its going to be close. I dont know. After the FBI attended my you view things at this time in terms of events or trends?
last workshop, they sent me a thank you letter on White House
stationary, so what we are seeing here is that there is a change. They Drunvalo: Well, there are many huge and rapid changes energetically
that will come upon the Earth in the next few years. When we actually physical bodies and get into a spiritual path and begin to understand the
move into the 4th dimension I'm not even sure. Thats just a wave of nature of who they are. That is the main problem. People are still deep
energy. But, as far as moving into higher levels beyond Earth into polarity consciousness and are scared to death. That, of course, is
consciousness, we only have until the end of 2012. In terms of the long the problem. If we were all sitting in the place of unity and love, we
term thing with planet Earth, there isn't one, and maybe someone is off could ride this into a whole new way of experiencing the One reality,
by two years or even ten years. which involves pure bliss and beauty. We are not, but we are getting
there very fast in a totally unique way. We have chosen a pathway that
Val: It may be next month, for all we know. no one has ever chosen before. No one has ever seen it. We are moving
at incredible speed and evolving in completely unique ways. It appears
Drunvalo: Right. We are looking at a calendar that says it is 1995, but is now that we are going to come into this place...everybody....is going to
it really? this place of understanding where we understand that there is only One
Spirit moving through everything, so deeply and experientially within
Val: There have been many people who have pointed out that the our heart, that we will be able to make this transition. To a reader
Gregorian calendar may be off seven to ten years, in terms of the actual reading this, it probably seems like fantasy, because of what is going
linear date, and that this may now be 2002 or later. After experimenting on....because outwardly it looks pretty crazy.
with the time wave, I found that making 1997 as the end point, as
opposed to 2012, creates the same type of waveform, and that either Val: You mentioned in the Flower of Life workshop certain indications
waveform indicates a very significant period between January and that a dimensional interface was in progress.... indications that could be
March 1996. A huge break in structure takes place that is the first of six observed that would lead one to a realization that it was happening, so a
before the end of the continuum as we know it. person would then know to center oneself...

Drunvalo: I feel it coming, and I think it's going to hit about the last Drunvalo: There are certain signs that do occur as a planet moves from
week of January 1996. third dimension into fourth dimension or density. Usually what occurs is
the second level of consciousness, which is disharmonic, begins to break
Val: What exactly do you feel about the nature of what is coming at the down and destroy itself. Ultimately, as we approach the end of the cycle,
end of January 1996? it does break down. It does not mean that it will this time. I highly doubt
that it will, this time. I don't think we are going to get much of a
Drunvalo: I just feel this huge energy. It's incredible. An eclipse took warning. Usually what happens is that the world falls apart -- the
place that was centered over Japan around October 23rd. The nature of financial and social structure breaks down and falls apart and it becomes
that particular kind of eclipse happens every so often, usually about 50 an extremely dangerous time to try to make it through, because people
years. Whenever it comes up, the reaction to it happens 90 days later. are killing each other in a total survival mode. That usually happens
The last time that eclipse came up, it was centered over Europe. Exactly anywhere from about two years to three or four months before the
90 days later World War II began in Europe. change. So, speaking in terms of this planet, there is a time when you
cannot get food, water, money, or anything -- it goes nuts. That is what
Val: So obviously this roughly coincides with the plunge indicated for prompts all these prophets to tell people to store away food and water.
the time compression wave. Not to prepare for the shift, but for the period of chaos before it, trying
to keep people in their bodies before they can make the transition.
Drunvalo: Well, for this one the 90 day period ends around the 23rd of
January 1996. Since it is centered over Japan, my feeling and intuition is Val: Not that it would make any difference if you were or were not in a
telling me that it involves the stock market. But, this huge amount of body, the transition would happen anyway.
energy doesnt have to be negative. It can be positive. If the
consciousness of the planet is aware and it is in harmony, it could be a Drunvalo: That's right. It does anyway, though the mother aspect of the
place of growth. If it is unconscious and dreaming all these fearful Earth is going to want to try to protect us on those levels. Its going to be
dreams, then it will go into a huge darkness. put right into the paradigm. Its just natural for it to want to do that. But,
it really doesnt make any difference. It doesn't make any difference if
Val: And the process for maintaining oneself in the face of chaos... you die right now, because you will just go into a fourth dimensional
place, and from there you will go on to a higher level anyway, because
Drunvalo: This is something we teach in the Flower of Life workshop, that is what is happening in the universe. Or, if you resurrect and die
especially in the advanced workshop. Basically, its consciously, you're going to go there.....if you ascend, and move
meditation...connecting...knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that the consciously from within the body, the result is the same. It doesnt matter
presence of God is within and all around you at all times. Knowing that what happens to you right now. We are in an upward wave, and that is
there is a total connection there at all times, and in knowing that absolute where we are going, one way or another, even if it means going to
connection to the reality, and to All-That-Is, knowing that all these another evolutionary pattern on another wavelength that is appropriate
different aspects, whether seen as positive or negative, are all part of a for each person.
perfect growth plan that is not an accident. Its all part of what Is. We
have been around forever, and we will always be around. When someone Val: Once everyone is there, I suppose that you would create whatever
really knows their connection to God and to all life, then these kind of you would want to create. What you think manifests itself.
changes can be watched with great interest and not with any kind of fear,
worry, or anything else. Drunvalo: It's what you think and feel. Your feelings also manifest in the
same kind of way as your thoughts.
Val: I suppose it would be easier for those individuals who have had
near-death experiences or out of the body experiences, in essence those Val: Do you view the appearance of things like the alchemical white
who have gained a feeling of personal continuity within the universe, to gold as a harbinger of things to come, or at least interesting in terms of
handle these things. timing?

Drunvalo: Yes, that is another way to say it. If you know..... if you don't Drunvalo: I am not sure Mother Earth is going to use this avenue. She
know, and you really think that you are a little being inside a body and may and she may not. I see the Earth as fully awake and conscious now
everything out there is totally out of your control and has no connection in terms of evolution. Its proceeding ahead, and making these changes.
to you --- that way of interpreting reality, which many people have, it's People are finding the white gold in the dirt. They are finding whole
going to be a very fearful situation. That kind of person needs to begin to veins of this stuff, whereas no one ever found it like that before, and no
do internal work. They need to begin to work on their emotional bodies, one ever cared. She is going to do whatever it takes, and adapt in any
way, and give us whatever we need to make sure we are safe and them. They have a tiny little body that is not much bigger than their
proceed as a planet, as a race, onto the next level. There may be things head. They have allowed people within 30 feet of them. When the FBI
coming in the future that we could not imagine. Even a little bit further attended my last workshop, I asked them what they thought about what
in the future there will be things that would now be considered as was going on down in Mexico. They indicated that they do not
absolutely impossible, will happen. understand what it was, only that it was being staged, meaning that they
are just sitting there allowing themselves to be photographed. They don't
Val: For example? know who they are, where they are from or what is going on. For that
reason, they have blacked out this information in the United States. They
Drunvalo: Well, if I use an example it will be my imagination, because I did talk about it at a UFO conference, and one of the TV shows showed
do not know what Earth is going to do, but the Earth could do things some of the original footage. For some reason, these beings are isolating
which would dramatically change the consciousness- equation on the themselves within the boundaries of Mexico, and not going out of there
Earth. What if the plasma-ship thing going on in Mexico right now was until just recently, when they started seeing them over Japan. I find that
verified? interesting, because that is where this other type of solar eclipse was. So,
there being a 90 day difference between the solar eclipse in Japan and
Val: Would you elaborate on that? the plasma-beings' subsequent appearance in Japan, it may well be that
this thing that happens in January 1996 is not at all what we may think it
Drunvalo: Well, about three years ago, coinciding with the Fifth Sun of is. It might be that Japan might actually accept that they're there. Its one
the Mayan Calendar, there was a solar eclipse over Mexico City. thing to have a third world country like Mexico do it, but what is the
Seventeen cameras also caught what appeared to be a space ship United States going to do if Japan says they're there? If they do, within
hovering over the city. They now have over 200 cameras showing the 24 hours this whole planet will be completely, totally different. We won't
space ship sitting there. From that moment on, ships have been visible in be the same. All human beings will be completely altered. Just by the
Mexico -- only in Mexico. These ships are coming closer and closer to fact that we acknowledge life on our planet outside of ourselves. It is
the ground and allowing people to see them. The Mexican Broadcasting going to do something huge. Those kind of things could be part of a
Company has now acknowledged that these UFOs are real and that they master plan of Mother Earth to raise us up into a higher level of
are all over Mexico. They are showing them on Mexican television. The awareness.
Mexican government has announced that they are real, and that they are
not going to do anything...that they believe that they are peaceful and Val: I guess you couldn't break structure any more than that.
relate to higher levels consciousness. I just spoke with six people outside
of Mexico City in October, and one of them had come from this town Drunvalo: This is really moving fast. I have been keeping tabs on it.
south of Mexico City, a town of 12,000 people. Every single man, There are people coming from all over the world to go down there.
woman and child in this town has seen a UFO every single day for the People coming back were shaken. They saw them. There they were.
last six months. They are hovering over the town. They are landing next They were real. That's the kind of thing that could jar us into a higher
to apartment buildings. The beings are getting out and allowing level of consciousness. It could be something right out of science fiction
themselves to be photographed on video cameras. that Mother Earth uses to do this.

Val: Are there any indications of who these beings are or where they are Val: There have been a lot of scenarios that have been put out there in
from? which the government uses technology to create holo- graphic imagery
in order to manipulate the population toward negative ends. Technology
Drunvalo: This is very interesting, and you know if you have been capable of mimicking a Maitreya telepathic projection worldwide, the
following what I have been saying, that UFOs are primarily Luciferian. so-called Project Blue Beam, etc. What you are saying is that this kind
So, I don't see it as such a great thing that they are coming here. But, of functional mechanism is actually part of the natural process that will
these are different. These are living Merkaba fields, and they actually occur anyway, regardless of human participation?
have videos of these. They show these ships divide in half and divide
again right in space. They have watched them disappear and then appear Drunvalo: Yes, I think that Mother Earth has that option now, because as
a quarter mile away, instantaneously. They have taken a photograph of a planet she is waking up, and she's gaining control of who she is and
one of these ships from directly underneath it. When they subjected the what is taking place here. Things could happen outside of what we
photograph to computer analysis, they found that what the photograph would normally think of as occurring.
depicts appears to be identical to a human cell. It appears to be alive.
The ship appears to be a living being. They found that as these beings Val: You indicated once that the French nuclear testing on the 19.5
get on a ship, the ship gets bigger. If some get off, the ship gets smaller. degree grids are essentially backfiring, insofar as it has produced effects
Videos of these beings show them walking right through each other. not anticipated by those behind the testing.
They are just pure light.
Drunvalo: The volcano in Mexico where these ships and beings are
Val: So, we are talking about a group Merkaba. coming out of is also at 19.5 degrees. Mother Earth knows everything.
She knew that the French were going to do this testing. In response to
Drunvalo: That's right. They are living fields that have a brilliant orange- that, she sped up evolution in such a way that would be hard to explain
white light. The beings are glowing, and they bounce all over the screen to your readership, but she changed the nature of the construction of the
on the video. grid in a way that is beyond the understanding of science today, though
we are just approaching that understanding, to strengthen it's quality so
Val: Is it important to ask what or who these beings are? that it would be impervious to anything human technology could do to it.
The test location is in the south pole of the Christ- Consciousness grid.
Drunvalo: All I know is this. In the latest video that I just got from them, The north pole is in Egypt, and you can't set off an atomic bomb there
they have traced them to where they are coming from. They are coming and get away with it. They are not going to stop trying to do everything
out of the worlds second largest volcano, south of Mexico City. There they can to try to control the whole situation. They are schizophrenic
are people sitting on the rim of the volcano watching these ships coming right now. They are setting off nuclear devices at the same time others in
out. It is the belief of most of the people down there that they are coming the same group are preparing for planetary unity, knowing in truth that is
out of inner earth. The dimensional levels go into the Earth just as they where they have to go. There are still too many aspects within them that
go out from the Earth. They appear to be coming right out of the Earth. do not truly understand what we are going through. If the whole body of
They have photographs of these beings. They have heads about 20 the elite understood, then they could drop all this stuff. We would know
inches long shaped like an eggplant, with two little antennae, and two it instantly. There are too many of them that do not comprehend. To
small eyes. Their faces are so bright with light that you can hardly see appease those that do not understand, the other half is letting them go on
with this kind of activity.
Due to the ship's logbook, which I have seen, the USS Eldridge took part
in the Normady Assault in 1944 and then was given to the Greek
Drunvalo Home Page Navy...so it was and, believe me, still it is sea worthy! Now the ship is
located in the Suda Bay Naval Station in Crete.

VJ Enterprises However, I disagree with Mr. Drue's comment: "I do know that on
Attn: Joshua "Illinois" Shapiro August 18th, 1943, the USS Eldridge was sent to Montauk Point, Long
9737 Fox Glen Dr. #1K Island, New York to the year of 1983, at which time it was dismantled.".
Niles, IL 60714 This is absolutly wrong because, as I told you the ship is still in one
TEL : (847) 824-1822 piece at Suda Bay.
FAX: (413) 604-9059
I have visited the ship three times, the comander and first engineer are
[email protected] very close friends of mine, and I had the opportunity to have a look in
the ship's logbook. I can assure you that the pages of the time of
George Pantoulas Philadelphia Experiment are missing, someone cut them out from the
The Current Whereabouts logbook.
of the
U.S.S. Eldridge Also inside the ship are a lot of wires that do not go anywhere... they just
exist and give the ship enginners a big headache until they realized that
The Ship Tested in this wiring were the remains of the experiment's machinery.
the Philadelphia Experiment
( reported by George Pantoulas ) There are some stories from crew members that they sometimes had
strange illusions when they served on the ship, or they felt some strange
vibrations even when the entire ship's machinery was out of operation.
The more correspondences I have with our new friend George, the more
I begin to see that we have found the "Indiana Jones" of Greece. (Please I am sending this information (to you because I) believe that it helps (for
see Crash at Megas Platanos and Ntavelis Cave, UFO reports from others to know) the truth about USS Eldridge. If you want some more
George Pantoulas in Greece). Once again, George surprises me by info about this story just tell me...OK?
saying the ship used in the 1943 Invisibility Test, out of the Philadelphia
Harbor, known to us as the Philadelphia Experiment, is a ship now part waiting news from you, greetings
of the Greek Navy, known as the AT "Leon". So please find attached to
this page, George's account of the Eldridge in Greece including an George
interview with two Naval Officers that served on this ship.

For those interested in contacting George directly, or to obtain copies of

any film/video he has created, he can be reached at his email address at: Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 00:20:14 -0200
[email protected]. To: [email protected]
From: "George N.Pantoulas"
Enjoy ... what a story ... that a boy George .... Subject: Philadelphia Experiment

JS>George ... are you sure this is the Eldrige ... I mean, why would
Illinois JS>the U.S. Navy send such a ship to Greece ... is hard to believe?
JS>Is there any proof that the "LEON" is the Eldridge or could it be
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:51:42 -0200 JS>some other ship that looks like the Eldridge?
To: [email protected]
From: "George N.Pantoulas" Joshua
Subject: Philadelphia Experiment
Of course there are solid proofs that the USS Eldridge is in Greece under
the name of the "Leon". As I wrote you it is one of the four Bostwick
Joshua Hello again class ships that was send to Greece as military aid after WW 2. You can
check it yourself from Jane's Book of Major Warships, edited by captain
I read the WWW page with the Mr Drue's interview about Philadelphia John E. Moor RN, or from the Greece Ministry of Defence. Anyway I
Experiment which is quite intresting. I'd like to make a short comment in have double checked all the sources my self and I am positive 100% for
reference to Mr Drue's statement about USS Eldridge (DE-173), a ship all information that I do send to you.
that I have had the luck to know very well. What do I mean? Let me tell
you some things about this ship. Second, I told you that I have seen the ship's logbook myself and third,
the entire Greece Navy knows very well that the "Leon" is the ex USS
The USS Eldridge is of the Bostwick class and was given as military aid Eldringe...it is nothing new in Greece.
from US to Greece sometime between the late 40's and early 50's (I can
find exact the date) and took the name Leon (means lion). To be more No, it is not any other ship in this class Escort Destroyer (DE), or any
specific, the Greek navy took, among others, 4 ships of the Bostwick other ship with the name Eldridge that served in US Navy in 1943. So
class. All of these ships have wild animals as names: Leon (x USS the ONE AND ONLY ONE USS Eldridge that some years after the
Eldridge), Panthir (means Panther), Aetos (means eagle) and Ierax Philadelphia Experiment was sent to Greece and it is still here serving
(means Hawk). All of these ships served in the Greek Navy till 1990 the Greek Navy. You can check this also by Jane's Books and catalogs.
when Leon and Panthir entered the reserve service while the other two
are still in service. JS> George, it sounds like you have had a very special and interesting
life
So I disagree with Mr. Drue's phrase: "I would also like to point out that
the USS Eldridge had sustained serius damage during the experiment Well, I have not any special kind of life, but as I wrote you in my previus
and was no longer sea worthy after we returned." e.mails, I am a profesional journalist and due to my interest with the
paradox and themes connected I have done and I am doing till today as a were missing since the ship came to Greece and became a Greek Naval
producer long in field investigations and research on this kind of unit.
subjects. This is the reason that I always doublecheck everything that I
send to you or in public through videos or TV stories. Some people say During my service on the A/T Leon I had some reports from crew
here in Greece that I am famous for taking the cover off strange stories members stating that they had seen something mysterious like an illusion
or sometimes they say that I am the only one who can risk his head to (i.e. some type of ghost), or they reported that they were missing things
find the truth. (objects, possesions), nothing of value which would suggest that a thief
was onboard. Usually they would find the lost objects after a couple of
I have no any objections to pass the info to Mr. Drue. days in a different place than they had placed them. We used to make
jokes between us about the "ships ghosts" that changed the place of
Thanks for all things. Also there was some reports about a greenish glow that
sometimes covered the ship during the night but I did not see this
George myself.

"B": I agree with all the things that the captain has said. Well, I want to
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 05:25:15 -0200 add something more. The first thing that impressed me when I took over
To: [email protected] the ship as the first engineer was an enormous amount of wiring, I mean
From: "George N.Pantoulas" {[email protected]} there were cables which started from nowhere and ended nowhere. As I
Subject: Interviews found out later, all this stuff seems to be the remains of the electrical
machinery that was used on Philadelphia Experiment aboard the ship.
Joshua
The second strange thing that I noticed was a kind of vibration along the
Here are the two interviews with Greek Navy officers who served on the whole ship even if everything was shut down (i.e. when we were doing
A/T Leon (ex USS Eldridge) the ship that is conected with the repairs in the dry dock). Once I felt it myself and my first thought was
Philadelphia Experiment. Both of these officers served on the ship for a that it was an earthquake. I checked and there were no earthquakes
period of 2 years in the early '80s when the ship was in regular service as reported in the area (at that time).
some years ago the A/T Leon was placed into reserve service at Suda
Bay Naval Base. Also both of the officers are still in service in the Greek
Navy and this is the reason that I can not share their names publicly. One George Pantoulas: Do you think that all these incidents have anything to
of them is a commanding officer, who served on the A/T Leon as its do with the Philadelphia Experiment?
commander, and the other one is a naval engineer who served on the
ship as the first engineer. For the purpose of this interview I will use "A" "A": I don't know, but it is possible.
for the Commander and "B" for the Engineer. So let's see what they have
to tell us: "B": Yes, I think that all these things are connected with the Philadelphia
Experiment. Maybe a part of the energy field that was used during the
experiment is still with the ship.

George Pantoulas Presents: These are the answers from the two officers who spent some of their
career aboard the A/T Leon - ex USS Eldridge .............. George
An Interview with
Two Naval Officers Serving
Upon the A/T Leon
(ex USS Eldridge) Confirmation of the AT Leon
(Rolf Fey, Switzerland)
George Pantoulas: Gentlemen, when you served on the A/T Leon did
you know that the ship was connected with the Philadelphia
Experiment? Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:51:37 +0100
Subject: USS Eldridge became "Leon"
"A": Yes, of course. Almost everyone in the Greek Navy knows that the From: ([email protected])
A/T Leon was the USS Eldridge, the ship that was used in the To: "Joshua UFO Covers" ([email protected])
Philadelphia Experiment in 1943. We have known this story since we
were cadets in the Naval Academy. So I was very curious to check the Dear Joshua,
whole story myself when I was dispatched as the captain of the ship.
I would like to make some comments on Mr. George Pantoulas' letter
"B": Yes, I know this story. For many years we have known the about the ship "USS Eldridge".
connection of the ship with Philadelphia Experiment.
As far as my information go, the ship was given to the Greece Navy
after world war II and served under the name "Leon".
George Pantoulas: Did you ever notice anything strange occur on the
ship during your service there? This information was given in the book "The Philadelphia Experiment"
by Charles Berlitz written 1979. (I have the German edition: KNAUR
"A": Well, nothing weird I can say, if you mean that. But there are few ISBN 3-426-03679-7, page 81)
things that we coull call as strange. First of all when I checked the
logbook of the ship I found something very unusual. As you know In this book Mr.Berlitz writes: (my translation from German to English)
logbooks on every ship is something...let's say that is sacred. No one can The USS Eldridge served after the Philadelphia experiment in the
change anything writen in the logbook. So I was surprised when I found atlantic region until the end of WW II. Afer returnin to New York she
that the pages of the logbook which referred to the date of the went to the dry dock at June,17th 1946. After revision work, she was
Phladelphia Experiment and some days before and after were missing. sold to the Greek Navy and changed the name to "Leon".
Somebody had cut out all these pages. I asked the three previous
commanders of the ship about this and all of them told me that the pages Mr. Berlitz further states, that the Log pages between Aug,27. 1943 and
Dec. 1st.1943 were not available anymore and that the log books from
the other ship involved in the experiment (USS Furuseth) have been
destroyed.

There is more information in the book, covering the "official" story

about when the ship entered service and about the "true" story that the
ship took part in those experiments just short before starting NAVY
service.

Maybe this second source might help you in gathering more information
about USS Eldridge.

Thank you for brining us such interesting topics.

Rolf FEY
Switzerland

UFO Crash
at Megas Platanos

Ntavelis Cave
-- Strange Phenomena

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