Master Wizards
Master Wizards
Technical analysis tracks the past, it does not predict the future
There is a great deal of hype attached to technical analysis by some technicians who claim that it
predicts the future. Technical analysis tracks the past; it does not predict the future. You have to use
your own intelligence to draw conclusions about what the past activity of some traders may say about
the future activity of other traders. For me, technical analysis is like a thermometer. Fundamentalists
who say they are not going to pay any attention to the charts are like a doctor who says he’s not going
to take a patient’s temperature. But, of course, that would be sheer folly. If you are a responsible
participant in the market, you always want to know where the market is— whether it is hot and
excitable, or cold and stagnant. You want to know everything you can about the market to give you an
edge. Technical analysis reflects the vote of the entire marketplace and, therefore, does pick up unusual
behavior. By definition, anything that creates a new chart pattern is something unusual. It is very
important for me to study the details of price action to see if I can observe something about how
everybody is voting. Studying the charts is absolutely crucial and alerts me to existing disequilibria and
potential changes.
If very important news cannot move stock price, re-evaluate your investment thesis.
Although I don’t really trade off of them, there are two that come to mind. First, if a market doesn’t
respond to important news in the way that it should, it is telling you something very important. For
example, when the news of the Iran/ Iraq war first came out over the newswire, gold was only able to
move up $ 1. I said to myself, “A Middle East war has just broken out and the best the gold market can
do is go up $ 1; it has to be a great sale.” [Lary Hite]
So you wouldn’t care if the market didn’t react to the news the way it should have, as long as you felt
the main reason for being short was still valid. Yes, but if the news was terrible and the stocks were up, I
would try to understand why. Sometimes the market has more information and the variant action is
really telling you something. [Michael Steinhardt]
I want to see a stock move higher on good news, such as a favorable earnings report or the
announcement of a new product, and not give much ground on negative news. If the stock responds
poorly to negative news then it hasn’t been blessed.
In bear markets, stocks fall drastically on negative news and might react modestly to
positive news
Not appreciating how drastically a bear market can change the balance between return and risk. For
example, say you like a pharmaceutical company because you have done thorough research that leads
you to believe there is an 80 percent probability that the FDA will approve their drug application. In the
current bear market environment, even if you are right about the odds, the trade may be a bad bet
because the stock might go up only 5 percent with a favorable ruling, but go down 50 percent with an
unfavorable ruling.
The symmetry between the euphoric bull market of 1999 and this year’s unrelenting bear market is
quite amazing. In 1999, a company announcement that it was expanding its business to the Internet
would be sufficient to propel its stock price $20 higher overnight. This year, a Wall Street Journal story
about a company’s accounting is enough to trigger a near instantaneous $20 decline in the stock price.
So you are seeing the same type of crazy price moves, except they are on the downside instead of the
upside. The fear in 2002 is just as intense as the greed in 1999. The analogy is that long positions are
now subject to the same type of sudden large irrational adverse price moves as short positions were in
the 1999 bull market. However, just as in 1999, I believe the current situation will be temporary.
Think twice before selling a stock near its all-time high, unless fundamentals are bad
I am only concerned about stocks making new all-time highs.
I won’t short a stock that is moving straight up. The stock has to show signs of weakening or at least
stalling. [Short seller Dane Galante]
Something is going right for stocks which rebound first after deep correction in markets
One way to use relative strength is to look for stocks that hold up well during a market correction and
are the first to rebound after the market comes off a relative low; these stocks are the market leaders.
If stock price is top 2% of relative performance and fundamentals remains bad, even then
study the company closely
Roughly speaking, I would say my weighting is fifty-fifty. But there is an important distinction between
the relative importance I assign to price action versus fundamentals. Although I would never bet on my
fundamental ideas without some confirming price action, I might consider buying a stock with apparent
negative fundamentals if its relative price performance is in the top 2 percent of the market. Why is
that? Because the price action may be telling you that the stock is discounting a potential change in the
fundamentals that is not yet evident. The combination of strong price action and weak current
fundamentals often occurs in turnaround companies or companies with a new technology whose
potential is not yet widely understood.
Stock at all time high means all unhappy investors are already out
No, a stock going to a new high is typically a bullish event because the market has eliminated the supply
of all previous buyers who had a loss and were waiting to get out at even. That’s why stocks often run
up very rapidly once they hit new high ground—at that point, there are only happy investors; all the
miserable people are out.
All time high signal more relevant in early stages of bull market and not in late stage of
bull market
That usually doesn’t happen if you buy breakouts to new highs after a correction to the first leg in a bull
trend. In that case, stocks usually take off like a rocket after they break out to new highs. Less skilled
traders wait to buy the stock on the pullback, which never comes. When do you get breakouts that fail?
In the latter stages of a bull market after the stock has already run up dramatically. Chart patterns are
only useful if you know when to apply them; otherwise, you might as well be throwing darts.
If you buy a stock post earnings surprise, you might be buying at its peak price
There have been lots of academic studies to show that stocks with positive earnings surprises tend to
outperform the market, but the margin of improvement is relatively moderate. Frequently, you may find
that when you buy a stock after a positive earnings surprise, you are buying it near a price peak because
the earnings surprise was already discounted. We are talking about two different things. An “earnings
surprise” is defined by academics and Wall Street as a number that is above or below the consensus
estimate by some minimum margin. Whether an earnings surprise is discounted or not, however,
depends on the price trend before the report’s release. For example, if a stock goes up 10 points in a flat
First, it is important to initiate a trade early in the bubble phase. Second, since bubbles are prone to
abrupt, sharp downside reversals, it is critical that the long-biased position is structured so that the
worst-case loss is limited. For this reason, O’Shea would never be outright long in a bubble market, but
instead would express a bullish posture through a position such as a long call, a trade in which the
maximum risk is defined by the premium paid for the option. Low volatility bubble markets are
especially well attuned to being traded via long calls.
Bull market ends when everyone in the world is talking about stocks
It’s going to end badly; it always ends badly. Everybody in the world is talking stocks now. Everybody
wants to be a trader. To me that is the sign of something ending, not something beginning. You can’t
have everybody on one side of the fence. The world doesn’t work that way.
When bubble burst and market corrects by 20% or more many people might still be buying
because its 20% cheap
When you have tremendous fundamental imbalances, the change can occur anywhere along the way.
Nasdaq topped above 5,000, but it could just as well have been 3,000 or 7,000. It just happened to top
above 5,000. Predicting the top of a bubble is like trying to predict the weather one year out— the same
set of conditions can lead to wildly different outcomes if replayed multiple times. Absolutely right, and I
can’t predict that turnaround. It’s very difficult. But you can notice when things have changed. Most
people, though, don’t. When Nasdaq is at 4,000 after having been at 5,000, there are lots of people
buying it because it is cheap. They reason, “It used to be 5,000. Now it’s only 4,000. I am getting a
bargain.” People are very poorly attuned to making decisions when there is uncertainty. Do you know
the difference between risk and uncertainty?
End of bear markets, when economy stop getting worse and markets start going up
Two things changed: The economy stopped getting worse, and markets started going up. The underlying
problems had not gone away, but that isn’t the market driver. The fact that the economy was improving,
even though it was still in bad shape, meant that the optimists could come back. Never underestimate
O’Shea emphasizes that his edge is not forecasting what will happen, but rather recognizing what has
happened. O’Shea believes that it is very difficult to pick a major turning point, such as where a market
bubble will top, and that trying to do so is a losing strategy. Instead, he waits until events occur that
confirm a trading hypothesis. For example, he thought that excessive risk-taking during 2005 to 2007
had inflated various markets beyond reasonable levels and left the financial markets vulnerable to a
major selloff. Nevertheless, insofar as he sees his role as trading in response to the prevailing market
facts, rather than forecasting turning points, he actually had bullish positions on during this time. He did
not switch to a bearish posture until an event occurred that he saw as a confirmation that the markets
were in the process of rolling over— the drying up of liquidity in the money markets in August 2007. He
Many times stock prices moves first and reasons come later
At the start of the 1998 crisis, there was nothing about LTCM in the press, either. I had no idea of any
reason for what was going on in the markets, and I had no way of finding out. All I knew was that T-bond
futures were going up limit every day. That told me there was something going on. I didn’t need to know
why. Once you realize something is happening, you can trade accordingly. Trades don’t have to start
based on fundamentals. If you wait until you can find out the reason for the price move, it can be too
late. A great Soros quote is “Invest first; investigate later.” You don’t want to get fixated on always
needing a nice story for the trade. I am an empiricist at heart. The unfolding reality trumps everything. I
believe in hypothesis testing. The hypothesis is that something big is happening. I don’t know what it is,
but it is so powerful that it will carry on for a long time. I should participate in this. But I will do it in a
way that is liquid so that if it turns around again, I can get out quickly. If I am wrong, I will have a limited
loss. If I am right, who knows what could happen.
In April 2009, O’Shea was very pessimistic about the financial outlook, but the market behavior was
telling him he was wrong. Since his bearish hypothesis was inconsistent with the market price action, he
formulated an entirely different hypothesis that seemed to fit what was happening— that is, the
markets were seeing the beginning of an Asia-led economic recovery.
The “A” in our formula stands for annual earnings per share. In our studies, the prior five-year average
annual compounded earnings growth rate of outstanding performing stocks at their early emerging
stage was 24 percent. An EPS rank of 95 means that a company’s current and five-year historical
earnings have outperformed 95 percent of all other companies.
The “N” in our formula stands for something new. The “new” can be a new product or service, a change
in the industry, or new management. In our research we found that 95 percent of the greatest winners
had something new that fell within these categories. The “new” also refers to a new high price for the
stock. In our seminars we find that 98 percent of investors are unwilling to buy a stock at a new high.
Yet, it is one of the great paradoxes of the stock market that what seems too high usually goes higher
and what seems too low usually goes lower.
The “L” in our formula stands for leader or laggard. The 500 best-performing stocks during the 1953–
1985 period had an average relative strength of 87 before their major price increase actually began.
[The relative strength measures a stock’s price performance during the past twelve months compared to
all other stocks. For example, a relative strength of 80 would mean that the given stock outperformed
80 percent of all other stocks during the past year.] So, another basic rule in stock selection is to pick the
leading stocks— the ones with the high relative strength values— and avoid the laggard stocks. I tend to
restrict purchases to companies with relative strength ranks above 80.
I guess over the years, about two-thirds of my stock purchases were actually closed at a profit. However,
I have found that only one or two stocks of every ten I have bought have turned out to be truly
outstanding.
I also made the mistake of buying stocks that were overextended. By that I mean I was buying stocks
that had already moved 15 to 20 percent above their price bases. You should only buy stocks that are
within a few percent of their base; otherwise, the risk is too great. [David Ryan]
Do you therefore avoid high P/ E ratio stocks? Yes, in many cases I do. The most profitable situation is
when you find a stock with a strong earnings trend that is trading at a P/ E ratio in line with the broad
market ratio. [David Ryan]
If during bull phase, the leaders start losing its red signal
By how well my individual stocks are doing. If, during the bull phase, the leaders start losing, it indicates
that a bear market is developing. If I have five or six stocks in a row that get stopped out, a caution flag
goes up.
Driehaus’s basic philosophy is that price follows growth and that the key to superb performance in the
stock market is picking the companies with the best potential earnings growth. Everything else is
secondary. Interestingly, the high growth stocks that meet Driehaus’s criteria often sell at extremely
high P/ E ratios. Driehaus contends that the so-called prudent approach of buying only stocks with
average to below-average P/ Es will automatically eliminate many of the best performers. The stocks
that Driehaus tends to buy are also often companies that are not followed by, or only lightly followed
by, industry analysts, a characteristic that Driehaus believes leads to greater inefficiencies and hence
greater profit opportunities. Driehaus’s stock selection ideas are fundamentally based. However, to
confirm his selection and to aid in the timing of purchases, Driehaus is a great believer in technical
analysis. With rare exception, before he buys a stock, Driehaus wants to see its price rising and high
relative strength (i.e., a stock that is performing significantly stronger than the broad market). These
technical characteristics mean that when Driehaus buys a stock, it is frequently near its recent high. He
believes that fortunes are made by jumping on board the strongest fundamental and technical
performers, not by picking bargains. Another example in which Driehaus’s ability to do what is
uncomfortable enhances his profitability is his willingness to buy a stock on extreme strength following a
significant bullish news item. In such situations, most investors will wait for a reaction that never comes,
or at the very least will place a price limit on their buy order. Driehaus realizes that if the news is
sufficiently significant, the only way to buy the stock is to buy the stock. Any more cautious approach is
likely to result in missing the move. In similar fashion, Driehaus is also willing to immediately liquidate a
holding, even on a sharp one-day decline, if he feels a negative news item has changed the outlook for
the stock. The rule is: Do what is right, not what is comfortable. Another important point to emphasize is
When to sell
When confused about a position, better to sell and enter when sure
Yes, exactly. If you become unsure about a position, and you don’t know what to do, just get out. You
can always come back in. When in doubt, get out and get a good night’s sleep. I’ve done that lots of
times and the next day everything was clear. Do you sometimes go back in right after you get out? Yes,
often the next day. While you are in, you can’t think. When you get out, then you can think clearly again.
High valuation and deteriorating fundamentals and share price flat for some time
I look for growth companies that are overvalued—stocks with high P/E [price/earnings] ratios—but that
by itself is not enough. There also has to be a catalyst. An expectation that the company is going to
experience a deterioration in earnings. One thing I look for is companies with slowing revenue growth
who have kept their earnings looking good by cutting expenses. Usually, it’s only a matter of time before
their earnings growth slows as well. Another thing I look for is a company that is doing great but has a
competitor creeping up that no one is paying attention to. The key is anticipating what is going to affect
future earnings relative to market expectations.
I make sure that the fundamentals are broken before I go short. Even if Schwab today were trading at a
hundred times earning, I wouldn’t short it as long as the trend in the fundamentals was still improving. I
would wait for the fundamentals to start deteriorating.
Investment Process
Sometimes when people reach their target and nothing happens, they stop paying attention to
whatever the commitment was to get there. This explains why some people begin to lose after they
Dr. Kiev’s advice regarding goal achievement in general and trading success in particular can be
summarized as follows: Believing makes it possible. To achieve a goal, you not only have to believe it is
possible, but you also have to commit to achieving it. A commitment that promises the goal to others is
more powerful than a commitment made to oneself. Extraordinary performers—Olympic gold medal
winners, super-traders—continually redefine their goals so they are a stretch. Maintaining exceptional
performance requires leaving the comfort zone. After setting a goal, the trader or athlete needs to
define a strategy that is consistent with the target. Traders, athletes, and other goal-oriented individuals
need to monitor their performance to make sure they are on track with their target and to diagnose
what is holding them back if they are not.
Find an approach that fits your personality, every style has plus and minuses
Perhaps the most important rule is to hold on to your winners and cut your losers. Both are equally
important. If you don’t stay with your winners, you are not going to be able to pay for the losers. You
also have to follow your own light. Because I have so many friends who are talented traders, I often
have to remind myself that if I try to trade their way, or on their ideas, I am going to lose. Every trader
has strengths and weaknesses. Some are good holders of winners, but may hold their losers a little too
long. Others may cut their winners a little short, but are quick to take their losses. As long as you stick to
your own style, you get the good and bad in your own approach. When you try to incorporate someone
else’s style, you often wind up with the worst of both styles. I’ve done that a lot.
There is no single true path to trading success. On the contrary, the trading methodologies employed by
the Market Wizards are extraordinarily varied. The trading approaches used are not merely different,
but, as in the case of one trader I interviewed for a book in progress, the trading methodology may even
be closer to being a mirror opposite of what other traders do than bearing any similarity. Aspiring
traders need to understand that the quest is not a matter of finding that one approach that unlocks the
secrets of market success, but rather of finding an approach that fits their personality. All the Market
What markets are you going to trade? You need to select a market that fits your personality because a
market is a reflection of the people who trade it. People who trade Internet stocks are definitely
different from people who trade utility stocks. [Mark D Cook]
People always want to know what’s in my computer model. I think that is the least relevant issue to
successful trading. Of course you need an edge, but there are a thousand ways to get an edge. Some
people use strategies that are completely opposite mine, yet we can both be very profitable. Developing
your own strategy is what is important, not knowing my strategy, which I have designed to fit my
personality. Understanding my trading philosophy, my principles, and my money management
techniques, that may be valuable. Besides, I think most people overemphasize stock selection. [Mark
Mintivini]
Don’t adopt contrary investing styles. You cannot be both day trader and long term investor
Cohen emphasizes that it is critical to trade a style that matches your personality. There is no single right
way to trade the markets; you have to know who you are. For example, don’t try to be both an investor
and a day trader. Choose an approach that is comfortable for you. Minervini offers similar advice:
“Concentrate on mastering one style that suits your personality, which is a lifetime process.”
Focus on those critical factors which makes stock prices to move up and down
What makes the stock go up and down?” That comment acted as a spur. Thereafter, I focused my
analysis on seeking to identify the factors that were strongly correlated to a stock’s price movement as
opposed to looking at all the fundamentals. Frankly, even today, many analysts still don’t know what
makes their particular stocks go up and down. What did you find was the answer? Very often the key
factor is related to earnings. This is particularly true of the bank stocks. Chemical stocks, however,
behave quite differently. In this industry, the key factor seems to be capacity. The ideal time to buy the
chemical stocks is after a lot of capacity has left the industry and there’s a catalyst that you believe will
trigger an increase in demand. Conversely, the ideal time to sell these stocks is when there are lots of
announcements for new plants, not when the earnings turn down. The reason for this behavioral
pattern is that expansion plans mean that earnings will go down in two to three years, and the stock
market tends to anticipate such developments.
Many people approach investing too casually. They treat investing as a hobby instead of like a business;
hobbies cost money. They also don’t take the time to do a post-trade analysis on their trades,
eliminating the best teacher: their results. Most people prefer to forget about their failures instead of
learning from them, which is a big mistake.
Schwager, Jack D.. Stock Market Wizards: Interviews with America's Top Stock Traders (p. 223).
HarperCollins. Kindle Edition.
It takes 3-5Y of hard work working 12 hours a day and losing some money to learn
investing
But you have to be willing to work hard and pay your tuition, which is the money you lose while you’re
learning how to trade. People ask me all the time, “How long do you think it will take for me to
succeed?” I tell them, “three to five years of twelve-hour days and losing money.”
I seem to have a gift. I think it is related to my overall philosophy, which has a lot to do with loving the
markets and maintaining an optimistic attitude. Also, as I keep trading and learning, my system (that is
the mechanical computer version of what I do) keeps evolving. I would add that I consider myself and
how I do things as a kind of system which, by definition, I always follow. Sometimes I trade entirely off
the mechanical part, sometimes I override the signals based on strong feelings, and sometimes I just
quit altogether. The immediate trading result of this jumping around is probably breakeven to
somewhat negative. However, if I didn’t allow myself the freedom to discharge my creative side, it might
build up to some kind of blowout. Striking a workable ecology seems to promote trading longevity,
which is one key to success. [Ed Seykota]
Gut feel is important. At the same time be aware of intuition and wishing
Gut feel is important. If ignored, it may come out in subtle ways by coloring your logic. It can be dealt
with through meditation and reflection to determine what’s behind it. If it persists, then it might be a
valuable subconscious analysis of some subtle information. Otherwise, it might be a dangerous
sublimation of an inner desire for excitement and not reflect market conditions. Be sensitive to the
subtle differences
Normal human tendencies are traits that cause you to do poorly. Therefore, to be successful as a trader
you need to condition abnormal responses. You hear many traders say that you have to do the opposite
of your gut response—when you feel good about a position, you should sell, and when you feel terrible
about it, you should buy more. In the beginning that’s true, but as you condition yourself for abnormal
responses, somewhere along the line you become skilled. Then your gut becomes right. When you feel
good, you actually should go long, and when you fell bad, you should sell. That’s the point when you
know you have reached competency as a trader.
Everybody gets what they want out of the market. Visualization and goal setting is very
important to increase profits
Win or lose, everybody gets what they want out of the market. Some people seem to like to lose, so
they win by losing money. I think that if people look deeply enough into their trading patterns, they find
that, on balance, including all their goals, they are really getting what they want, even though they may
not understand it or want to admit it.
One of the best ways to increase profits is to do goal setting and visualizations in order to align the
conscious and subconscious with making profits. I have worked with a number of traders in order to
examine their priorities and align their goals. I use a combination of hypnosis, breathing, pacing,
visualization, gestalt, massage, and so forth. The traders usually either (1) get much more successful, or
(2) realize they didn’t really want to be traders in the first place.
He can’t understand how I can trade by following a computerized system religiously. We were playing
tennis one day and he asked me, “Larry, how can you trade the way you do; isn’t it boring?” I told him, “I
don’t trade for excitement; I trade to win.” It may be very dull, but it is also very lucrative. When I get
together with other traders and they start exchanging war stories about different trades, I have nothing
to say. To me, all our trades are the same. [Larry Hite]
For me, it’s important to be loyal to my system. When I’m not, which happens occasionally, then, win or
lose, I’ve made a mistake. I usually remember these for years. The lesson for me was that if you break a
discipline once, the next transgression becomes much easier. Breaking a diet provides an appropriate
analogy— once you do it, it becomes much easier to make further exceptions.
Having investment philosophy is simple, success depends on its execution without exceptions
Successful trading is essentially a two-stage process: 1. Develop an effective trading strategy and an
accompanying trading plan that addresses all contingencies. 2. Follow the plan without exception. (By
definition, any valid reason for an exception—for example, correcting an oversight—would become part
of the plan.) No matter how sound the trading strategy, its success will depend on this execution phase,
which requires absolute discipline.
I try to assume that the guy on the other side of a trade knows at least as much as I do. Let’s say I buy
Texaco at $ 52 and it suddenly goes down to $ 50. Whoever sold Texaco at $ 52 had a perception that
was dramatically different from mine. It is incumbent on me to find out what his perception was. What if
you can’t explain it? The explanation might be superficial or serious, but you can usually get something.
Conviction to follow your ideas and the flexibility to recognize when you have made a
mistake.
Good trading is a peculiar balance between the conviction to follow your ideas and the flexibility to
recognize when you have made a mistake. You need to believe in something, but at the same time, you
are going to be wrong a considerable number of times. The balance between confidence and humility is
best learned through extensive experience and mistakes. There should be a respect for the person on
the other side of the trade. Always ask yourself: Why does he want to sell? What does he know that I
don’t? Finally, you have to be intellectually honest with yourself and others. In my judgment, all great
traders are seekers of truth.
The ability to change one’s mind is probably a key characteristic of the successful trader. Dogmatic and
rigid personalities rarely, if ever, succeed in the markets. Another attribute that has allowed Blake to
excel is his adaptability. The markets are a dynamic process, and sustained trading success requires the
ability to modify and even change strategies as markets evolve.
I’ve learned many things from him, but perhaps the most significant is that it’s not whether you’re right
or wrong that’s important, but how much money you make when you’re right and how much you lose
when you’re wrong. The few times that Soros has ever criticized me was when I was really right on a
market and didn’t maximize the opportunity.
Great track records are made by avoiding losing years and managing to score a few high-double-digit-or
triple-digit-gain years.
My results were transformed when I understood that what counts isn’t how often you’re right, but how
much you profit on your winning trades versus how much you lose on your losing trades. On average,
I’m only profitable about 50 percent of the time, but I make much more when I’m right than I lose when
I’m wrong.
What happens when you sell a stock with the intention of re-entering at lower price?
No, unfortunately, I didn’t. About a year later, I was on a business trip and I called my office to check on
my stocks. I found out that Bandag was up $ 5 that day, reaching a new high of $ 47. I decided to take
my profits, with the idea of buying the stock back later. Bandag then proceeded to continue to go
straight up to a high of $ 240 over the next year. That experience taught me that it’s not that easy to buy
back a good stock once you’ve sold it. It reinforced the idea that there’s great advantage and comfort to
being a long-term investor.
If you call, there’s at least a chance the person will talk to you. One of things I tell my analysts is, “Make
the calls. Maybe they won’t talk to you, but I guarantee that if you don’t call, they won’t talk to you.” In
this case, the manufacturer was very helpful at the start, but then they wised up to what we were doing
and stopped taking our calls. But by then, we had all the information we needed. What do you say when
you call a manufacturer in this type of situation? I tell him the truth. I tell him that I am a fund manager
and am doing research on the company and the industry. In some cases, when we call a company, we
ask them to provide us with the names of some of their top customers to help us evaluate their product.
Keep studying past winners and refine your stock selection criteria
I analyze all the stocks that were the best performers in the preceding year to refine the fundamental
and technical profile I use to identify the stocks that are likely to be the biggest winners in the future.
Write down your investment philosophy, it will help clarify your thoughts
I believe that writing down your trading philosophy is a tremendously valuable exercise for any investor.
Writing down your trading ideas helps clarify your thought process. I can remember spending many
weekends at the library writing down my investment philosophy: what catalysts I was looking for; how I
expected them to affect a stock; and how I would interpret different price responses. I must have
accumulated over five hundred pages of trading philosophy. Frankly, it was a lot of drudge work, and I
For any trade that is instructive (winner or loser), write down what you learned about the market from
that trade. It doesn’t make any difference whether you keep a trader’s diary or use the back of business
cards, as Masters does; the important thing is that you methodically record market lessons as they
occur.
Use your trading philosophy to develop a methodology for identifying high-probability trades. The idea
is to look for trades that exhibit several of the characteristics you have identified as having some
predictive value. Even if each condition provides only a marginal edge, the combination of several such
conditions can provide a trade with a significant edge.
If you are right more than 50% of the time and let your winners run you will make lots of
money
My best trader makes money only 63 percent of the time. Most traders make money only in the 50 to 55
percent range. That means you’re going to be wrong a lot. If that’s the case, you better make sure your
losses are as small as they can be, and that your winners are bigger.
The U.K. was in a recession with a greatly overvalued currency. Germany needed high interest rates to
constrain the high inflation of the postunification period with East Germany. Because the currencies
were linked, the U.K. was also forced to maintain a high interest rate, even though its ongoing recession
dictated a need for the exact opposite policy. All that Soros did was to recognize that the situation was
untenable. The Bank of England’s effort to support the pound was the equivalent of trying to fight
gravity. It made a huge impression. I learned that markets matter more than policy. You have to look at
real fundamentals, not at what policy makers want to happen. The willing disbelief of people can carry
on for a long time, but eventually it is overwhelmed by the market. The genius of Soros was recognizing
the turning point when things change— the ability to not only know that a position was right, but that it
was right now, and that now was the time to have a big risk on the trade.
Many times credit markets gives early warning signal of problems in economy
Fundamentally, housing prices started to go down in 2006, which didn’t start the crisis, but provided a
reason for one. The subprime credit indexes started going down in January 2007. Subprime credit is a
niche market, and the equity market was ignoring it. Then in July 2007, there was a broad selloff in the
credit markets, but it still was considered a contained credit market issue. Equity people tend to trace
the start of the financial crisis to the collapse of Bear Stearns in March 2008. For me, the true start of
the financial crisis was in August 2007 when money markets stopped working. Basically, banks didn’t
trust other banks. That was the month the world broke, and no one noticed. How did you see the money
markets breaking down? The most obvious way was that LIBOR rates spiked. [LIBOR is the rate at which
banks lend to other banks.] It was an indicator that the underlying assumption that money would flow
smoothly was no longer true. If you spoke to money market desks to find out what was going on, they
told you that liquidity had dried up. They had never seen anything like it. If a similar event happened in
any other market, it would be front-page news. But the fact that it happened in the most important
market— the money market, which is at the heart of capitalism— was largely ignored.
Fundamental analysis is not about forecasting the weather for tomorrow, but rather
noticing that it is raining today.
Fundamentals are not about forecasting the weather for tomorrow, but rather noticing that it is raining
today. The great trades don’t require predictions. The Soros trade of going short the pound in 1992 was
based on something that had already happened— an ongoing deep recession that made it inevitable
that the U.K. would not maintain the high interest rates required by remaining in the ERM. Afterward,
everyone said, “That was incredibly obvious.” Most of the great trades are incredibly obvious. It was the
same in late 2007. In my mind, it was clear that the financial system was imploding and that most
market participants hadn’t noticed.
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It was certainly a wake-up [Heart attack] call that my lifestyle had degraded to a point where something
had to change. I realized that trading twenty hours a day and sleeping two hours during weekdays was
not a sustainable schedule. I also had a friend who was a trader and had just suffered a heart attack at
forty-one. Another very important influence was my growing involvement in preserving the Costa Rican
rain forest. I felt I wanted to devote my life to the preserve. All of these factors contributed to my
decision to quit trading.
It’s OK to lose
Most people become anxious about losses, yet successful speculators have learned that an essential
ingredient to winning is to make it OK to lose. Since most people in our culture are taught that only
winning is acceptable, most investors must change their beliefs about losses to become successful.
If I can’t get over the emotions of taking a loss in twenty-four hours, then I’m trading too large or doing
something else wrong. Also, the process of rehearsing potential losses and confronting actual losses
helps me adapt to increasing levels of risk over time.
Investment style should cover stocks with both short term [2-5 Y] and long term [10Y]
The third thing we do to reduce risk is diversify. We diversify in two ways. First, we probably trade more
markets worldwide than any other money manager. Second, we don’t just use a single best system. To
provide balance, we use lots of different systems ranging from short term to long term. Some of these
Mint carries diversification to an extreme. First, their system is really a combination of many different
systems, selected not only for their individual performance, but also for their degree of lack of
correlation with other selected systems. Second, Mint trades in an extraordinarily wide spectrum of
markets (nearly sixty in all), encompassing exchanges in the U.S. and five foreign countries and diverse
market groups including stock indexes, interest rates, currencies, raw industrial goods, and agricultural
commodities. [Lary Hite]
Markets can be predicted only to a very limited extent, and any single strategy cannot provide an
attractive return-to-risk ratio. If you combine enough strategies, however, you can create a trading
model that has a meaningful edge.
As number of people following a particular style increases, these styles might become
unprofitable
The profitability of trading systems seems to move in cycles. Periods during which trend-following
systems are highly successful will lead to their increased popularity. As the number of system users
increases, and the markets shift from trending to directionless price action, these systems become
unprofitable, and undercapitalized and inexperienced traders will get shaken out. Longevity is the key to
success. [Ed Seykota]
I think it’s because eventually enough people figure it out. When too many people jump on the
bandwagon, the market takes it away. That’s why I would be very skeptical about anyone being able to
buy a trading system that worked—that is, a system that made money with an acceptable level of risk. If
you develop a system that you have thoroughly tested and truly believe works, don’t tell anyone about
it. Use it, because it’s going to go away at some point in time. Understand that it won’t last forever, and
work on coming up with something different for when that happens. I’m always concerned about
people figuring out what I do, because I know if that happens, it’s going to stop working. For example,
the “January effect” is gone. [The January effect is the tendency for small capitalization stocks to
outperform large capitalization stocks during January—a pattern that until 1993 had repeated in over 90
percent of all years since the mid-1920s. Then the pattern failed six years in a row. Lescarbeau is
implying, quite plausibly, that the January effect’s increasing publicity triggered its own demise.
Having said that, though, I find that the systems that have done the best in the most recent past also
tend to do the best in the immediate future. Therefore I tend to lean on the systems that have done the
best very recently.
Markets are dynamic. Approaches that work in one period may cease to work in another. Success in the
markets requires the ability to adapt to changing conditions and altered realities.
It takes lot of time to perfect one style [but you may need to change your process], so
stick to it through thick and thin
First and foremost, understand that you will always make mistakes. The only way to prevent mistakes
from turning into disasters is to accept losses while they are small and then move on. Concentrate on
mastering one style that suits your personality, which is a lifetime process. Most people just cannot
weather the learning curve. As soon as it gets difficult, and their approach isn’t working up to their
expectations, they begin to look for something else. As a result, they become slightly efficient in many
areas without ever becoming very good in any single methodology. The reality is that it takes a very long
time to develop a superior approach, and along the way, you are going to go through periods when you
do poorly. Ironically, those are the periods that give you the most valuable information.
One of the traders I recently interviewed makes the insightful point that many traders fail not so much
because of the trades they make when they are wrong, but rather because of the trades they don’t
make when they are right. It is quite common for traders to be right on their market call, but to fail to
implement a position and profit from their market assessment. It is not enough being right; you have to
make sure that you make money when you are right. Often this may require doing a trade that feels
uncomfortable.
There are five basic steps to becoming a successful trader. First, focus on trading vehicles, strategies,
and time horizons that suit your personality. Second, identify nonrandom price behavior, while
recognizing that markets are random most of the time. Third, absolutely convince yourself that what
you have found is statistically valid. Fourth, set up trading rules. Fifth, follow the rules. In a nutshell, it all
comes down to: Do your own thing (independence); and do the right thing (discipline).
Good trading rules from Stuart Walton which are equally applicable for investment
Be patient—wait for the opportunity. Trade on your own ideas and style.
Never trade impulsively, especially on other people’s advice.
Don’t risk too much on one event or company.
Stay focused, especially when the markets are moving.
Listen to the market, not outside opinions.
If you are unsure about a position, just get out.
Prices move before fundamentals.
You will be wrong often; recognize winners and losers fast.
Adding to losers is easy but usually wrong.
Remain confident—the opportunities never stop.
Hardwork
The irony is that so many people are drawn to the markets because it seems like an easy way to make a
lot of money, yet those who excel tend to be extraordinarily hard workers—almost to a fault.
Lescarbeau continues to spend long hours doing computer research even though his systems, which
require very little time to run, are performing spectacularly well. He continues to work as if these
systems were about to become ineffective tomorrow. There is often a fine line between hard work and
obsession, a line that is frequently crossed by the market wizards. Certainly some of the examples just
cited contain elements of obsession. It may well be that a tendency toward obsessiveness in respect to
the markets, and often other endeavors as well, is simply a trait associated with success.
Schwager, Jack D.. Stock Market Wizards: Interviews with America's Top Stock Traders (p. 392).
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The worst drawdowns often come suddenly right on the heels of periods when just about everything
seems to be working as well as if it had been optimistically scripted. Why is there a tendency for the
worst losses to follow the best performance? One possible explanation is that when everything seems
to be going perfectly, a trader will be most susceptible to being lulled into complacency.
Be careful in expanding your network of investor friends and clients. They have subtle
impact on your behavior
I do receive requests, but I very rarely accept new accounts. If I do, it is only after considerable
interviewing and screening to determine the motivations and attitudes of the client. I have found that
the people I associate with have subtle, yet very important, effects on my performance. If, for example,
they are able to support me and my methods over the long term, then they tend to help me. If,
The most important thing is to have a method for staying with your winners and getting rid of your
losers.
Containing your losses is 90 percent of the battle, regardless of the strategy. In addition, if you put
yourself in a position to buy stocks that have the potential to go up a lot, your odds will be better. [Mark
Mintivini]
Soros is also the best loss taker I’ve ever seen. He doesn’t care whether he wins or loses on a trade. If a
trade doesn’t work, he’s confident enough about his ability to win on other trades that he can easily
walk away from the position. There are a lot of shoes on the shelf; wear only the ones that fit. If you’re
extremely confident, taking a loss doesn’t bother you.
I know this will sound like a cliché, but the single most important reason that people lose money in the
financial markets is that they don’t cut their losses short. It is a curiosity of human nature that no matter
how many books talk about this rule, and no matter how many experts offer this advice, people still
keep making the same mistake.
Control risk
First, if you never bet your lifestyle, from a trading standpoint, nothing bad will ever happen to you.
Second, if you know what the worst possible outcome is, it gives you tremendous freedom. The truth is
that, while you can’t quantify reward, you can quantify risk.
I have two basic rules about winning in trading as well as in life: (1) If you don’t bet, you can’t win. (2) If
you lose all your chips, you can’t bet. [Lary Hite]
Know when to follow rules and when to break rules. If not able to follow
rules, take vacation from market for sometime
I believe both. Mostly I follow the rules. As I keep studying the markets, I sometimes find a new rule
which breaks and then replaces a previous rule. Sometimes I get to a personal breakpoint. When that
happens, I just get out of the markets altogether and take a vacation until I feel that I am ready to follow
the rules again. Perhaps some day, I will have a more explicit rule for breaking rules. I don’t think traders
can follow rules for very long unless they reflect their own trading style. Eventually, a breaking point is
reached and the trader has to quit or change, or find a new set of rules he can follow. This seems to be
part of the process of evolution and growth of a trader. [Ed Seykota]
Virtually all traders experience periods when they are out of sync with the markets. When you are in a
losing streak, you can’t turn the situation around by trying harder. When trading is going badly, often
the best solution is to liquidate all your positions (or protect them with stops that do not require
decisions) and stop trading. Take a break for a few days or longer. Liquidating positions will allow you to
regain objectivity. You can’t be objective if you are in the market. Taking a physical break will interrupt
the negative downward spiral that can develop in a losing streak, as each loss further diminishes
confidence. When you restart trading, trade smaller until you have regained confidence.
When I get into a losing streak, I like to read a nonfiction book to learn something new. That action
accomplishes two things. First, it takes my mind off of trading; second, by enhancing my knowledge, I
help improve my self-esteem. The key is to do something positive.
Gold
The thing about gold is that if you told me gold has a price of $ 100, that’s fine. If you told me it’s $
10,000, that’s fine as well. It can be any price. Gold is worth exactly what people think it’s worth. Gold is
the only commodity where the amount of supply is literally about 100 times as much as the amount
physically used in any year. That is not true of any other commodity, such as wheat or copper, where
total supply and annual consumption are much closer in balance, and true shortages can develop. There
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