script
script
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have a special job actually from a
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special customer remember this video
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probably you remember this video with
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the customer U which came and uh you
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know I helped him with the with the
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soldering job he is Mike he been uh a
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audio engineer for BBC and now he sent
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me actually he brought it here because
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he's living on the same town uh a laptop
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repair yeah mic's not only the laptop
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repair but he gave me the motherboard
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for spars so we should be able to fix
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this
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laptop mice HP A40 G5 doesn't take power
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or charge Windows show Power
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connected i7 agent so this is a decent
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laptop so basically what he's saying the
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laptop is
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working yeah but it's not charging he
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told me he charged the battery on a
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different
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laptop so yeah the laptop it is coming
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on now let's plug the charger because
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I'm curious to see what the laptop is
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doing so 19
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volts we need a little bit of current
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let's see what current do we
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have and we
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have yeah too low let's go yeah about
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there 3. 4 amps uh the laptop it is
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working plug in the
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charger he seconding no power at all you
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see the current
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nothing but the charging sign is there
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because you'll think okay it's a
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charging port
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issue but the charger it is detected
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plug in the
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charger the laptop appears to charge but
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it's not charging and it's no current I
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mean nothing zero
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you can
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see so it's a pretty interesting
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fold now we know the battery is good
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because the customer charge it on a
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different laptop so we can rule the
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battery
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out then what can be the problem that's
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a very good
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question so what do we have
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there we have the input circuit we have
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the bigy chip which is uh managing the
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input power input circuit and the
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charging so we are spinning with a
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repair around
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this okay so the laptop it's
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open yeah that's a nice
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motherboard h i mean you can spot like
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instantly
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spot uh the power on this laptop so you
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can see this is a big coil with four
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mosfets yeah so this is um the power
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supply which is creating the main power
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so the main power rail most likely has
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the battery voltage I didn't check but
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we can check together let's see so the
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main power L voltage
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is mosfet coil
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capacitor 10.4 ah
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10.4 why is 10.4
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the battery
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voltage
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11.5 you can't see 11.5 and the main
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power really it's like
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10.4 now this this power supply is
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creating the main power ra I'm pretty
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sure about that so this is the 19 volts
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the input and the output probably is
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here and it's 10.4 you can see so it's
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not
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charging now why is that H why is not
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charging
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see this is a good question let's go and
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check the input circuit yeah you know
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just slowly try to figure it out the
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schematic no rush is Sunday we had the
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live stream on the
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morning so this is the input
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circuit and the charging port probably
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is here right
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so yeah that's the charge
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import but what is this connected to the
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charging port this
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one huh so this must be plus
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right I mean here is some some some ring
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not sure if someone work
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here so what is this
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component uh must be the Sor right no
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but not on this side no so this is
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connected to
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plus is connected here and it's
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connected
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somewhere uh let's check together
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yeah I mean I'm assuming is the
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protection on
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the is the protection but it's not right
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uh the protection on the on the charger
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ID pin so here we have 19 okay so this
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component is taking 19 at the
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output here 0o
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no here 0
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volts here
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0.8 and here
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19 yeah it is taking
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19 I'm a little bit confused but I want
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to focus on this one right
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yeah so let's see the power is coming to
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those uh those uh inductors so from from
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the inductors we have check here the
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schematic yeah this is a resistor and
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from here the B is taking power yeah the
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B be taking power before the mosfet then
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we have the first mosfet then on the
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serial mode we have the second mosfet
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then we have the current sensor here and
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from the current sensor is going to this
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power supply with four more fets with
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this inter seal chip which is created in
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the main
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power okay so I want to check the first
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two
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mosfets let me unplug the
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battery so I unplug the battery the
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first
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mosfet is
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good good and the second mosfet
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is good so our problem is not like
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shorted
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mosfets what is mosfet is
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doing here not
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sure but let Let's test it and the
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mosfet is good those mosfets probably
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are good because we do have 19 here I'm
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assuming they are
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good but we can check
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good
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good so all Ms are
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good now we don't have a big chip on
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this laptop yeah we have this inter seal
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chip yeah this laptop doesn't have a b
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chip so this interal is managing this
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power supply which is creating the main
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power Rail and also the
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charging but we learn a lesson on our
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old
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repairs and the lessons we learn
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is uh if the charger ID pin is
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missing then the laptop it will not
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charge the problem is it is
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appear uh to charge I mean on the
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windows we have the charging
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sign so what could be the issue
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let's go on the
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battery so the battery is here okay so
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on the
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battery this truck is going somewhere
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you know what I think I know where this
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truck is going I think this truck is
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going exactly here exactly here
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no no it's not going here
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sorry no has to be connected on the main
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power
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rail okay but you know what I'm curious
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what is the voltage of the main power ra
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without the battery
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connected without the battery connected
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it's taking no current at
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all and the voltage of the main power
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rail is zero LOL
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okay so basically this laptop is not
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working on the charger even without the
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battery so on the input we
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have oh
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sorry so on the input of this power
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supply we have
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19 but on the output here we have zero
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yes so no voltage at
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all now the interal chip let's focus on
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this one like how I said
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uh from here is going to the B chip it's
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not going to the B chip it's going to
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the interal
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chip
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here not sure on which
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pin not sure on which
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pin is going but we can check on those
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capacitors here like
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3.7 you know what I remember I had some
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issue on on on on a laptop I work a lot
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on uh on a f we one capacitor yeah here
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is the main power L and here is the you
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see we have
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19.2 going to the interal chip so the
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interal chip has
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power now I really want to pull the
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schematic data sheet of this
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chip or we should focus on the charger
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ID
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pin I believe the charger ID
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pin is this one and it's like 1.2 volt
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and I'm assuming this is the output and
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is zero or this is the
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ground so this is
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19 this is the input and what is this
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then let me disconnect the charger and
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let's check together if that's
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ground this is ground yeah it is ground
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L okay so this is not this is only a
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protection on the charger ID
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pin good you know what let's take the
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spare board and check and compare with
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the with the spare board we have so on
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the spare board well that's beautiful
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when we have actually a spare board so
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on the spare board we have same thing
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right yeah here you have
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ground but let me plug the charger and
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check the voltage on the middle
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pin plug in the
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charger the charger is plugged
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and on the middle pin we have 1.1 okay
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so we are assuming the input circuit is
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good but I want to check the inter seal
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chip I mean that three volts was
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weird so here we have 3.7 L is the same
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let me see the output from this power
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supply check here we are like 12.5 I
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mean this is a broken motherboard
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yeah check here so this is a broken
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one you can see it's broken motherboard
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but this power supply just creating the
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main power L it's actually good we have
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12
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volts and probably if I plug the batter
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is charging right
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plug in the
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battery no
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why one second because we had 12.5 I we
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check
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together why is taking no
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current so the main power
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is
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12.5 huh
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the battery voltage is
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12.4 so why is taking no current at
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all I mean okay the board is broken I
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can understand that but the power input
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circuit is working you know what I mean
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we have 12.5 there with
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12.5 should charge my battery which had
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10 volts you remember 10.4 was
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so why this batter is not
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charging I mean you seeing no current at
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all okay this is
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strange but I'm assuming the battery is
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good because the customer charge the
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battery right
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yeah let me lower the
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voltage coming with a minus and plus on
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the battery and the battery is taking no
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current
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so how the customer charge this
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battery but no okay no probably the
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batter is not getting enabled by the by
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the E chip no no no listen we are we are
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uh we are going on a different direction
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and it's not it's not right I mean on
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this board we do have 12.5 on the main
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power ra on on the customer board the
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from the laptop we don't have so here we
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have 12.6
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actually good and here we have nothing
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probably we checked
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already here and here and we have zero
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volts
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nothing okay let me search for the data
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sheet of this chip and we found it check
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here so this is our chip ISL
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95338 that's the
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one and this is a basic
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schematic we can see here the four moset
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we can see the that big coil from
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here but this ship is not charging the
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battery oh oh sorry yeah
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I mean this laptop doesn't need a
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charging circuit because this it's a
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charging circuit I mean the main powerl
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has the battery
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voltage
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yeah now let's see what do we have
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here uh we do have this in right yeah p
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number 17 but p number 18
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is the internal ldo
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output so let's check this uh the p
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number
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18 so this one is the input of the ldo
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13.4 okay and this one is the ldo and we
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have Zer volts 0.4 let's check on the
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other board because I believe something
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here is
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wrong very wrong
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actually so on the spare
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board we
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have B number
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17 we have 13.7 and here we have 5 volts
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check on the screen ldo 5 volts so the
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ldo
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voltage here the ldo voltage is missing
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from our
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board and the question is
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why this is our board from the laptop
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and the ldo voltage is 0 volts H so the
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L voltage is
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missing so what we are doing when the
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when the power ra is missing what we are
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doing now one second the voltage input
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voltage is like 13 volts but it doesn't
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matter doesn't change anything now it's
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19 yeah it's okay it was my fault I set
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up 13 volts but that's not a
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problem because even with with 19 volts
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we still have here uh nothing and here
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we have
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18
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yeah good so what I will do I will come
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with the power supply like usual we know
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the Power Ra has 5 volts
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right
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good let's lower the
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current good and let's come with 5 volts
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L but this prob is too big let me use a
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tweezer so coming with 5 volts
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here and he taking 40 milliamps now
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whatever is taking 40 milli
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is gone I will take
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the the thermal
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camera because if we are seeing what is
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taking that 40 milliamps that's the pro
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that's the fault it's fixed
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yeah this chip cannot work for the
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without the internal
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ldo yeah
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perfect so I will comb yeah I have to
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keep I I have to keep the Probe on the
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Twister I will come let me
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see I will come here and he's taking 40
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milliam check there what he's getting
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check there check there the
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chip so the chip it is
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faulty uh I remember my was a a long HP
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was like 1 hour and I spinning around
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this inter seal chip
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and uh it was actually a capacitor on
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the ldo was not a chip and I replaced
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the ship and it didn't work and uh I
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found later on after like one hour wait
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it was a capacitor on the
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ldo good replacing the chip that should
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be easy
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job we can grab the chip from The Other
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Board
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uh let me isolate with capton
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tape good and let's isolate that
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connector just to be
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sure this
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one I mean we never know
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perfect now let's uh remove the chip
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first
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480° perfect so we remove the chip the
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chip
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position yeah we have uh we have that on
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the board the chip position
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good now let's get the chip from the
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spare board
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which is this
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one
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perfect let's move the chip here
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L soer the
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chief come on come
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on come
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on
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good perfect
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good now let's hold
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it perfect the chip is solder properly
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in
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place good now let's cool the
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motherboard with a little bit of
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uh thermal pad
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let's remove the capton
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tape it will
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work good let's plug the
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charger plug one second let me raise the
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current the voltage sorry and the
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current we need more
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current so we need some current here
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good plug in the
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charger 10 milliamps check that 10
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milliamps why do you think that is 10
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milliamps because the chip it is
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creating the main power Rail and the
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main power L
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is check on the screen 12 volts why only
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12
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12 I don't know it's a good question but
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let's plug we have the charging light
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here check that um let me plug the
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battery and see if it's charging I mean
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that's the best test
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right so plug in the
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battery plug in the charger 10 milliamps
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40 let's if he going up
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it's not going
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up
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11.1 300 5 500 check that 600 800 1
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amp
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1.5
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1.8 huh charging fine on the battery
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voltage
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12.1 and is going up check there 79 81
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84 85 and so on is going up so
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uh 1 Point uh 1.8 times you see this was
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a case were
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actually
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uh the cheap it was faulty but it's not
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always like that is not always like that
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and if you are a old subscriber you know
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that
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okay the SSD is back in place let's
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power on the
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laptop we didn't we didn't reset the the
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board that's the reason why the board
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didn't start probably so pressing the
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power button and the laptop it is coming
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on the current is going
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up and yeah it's working fine
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oh not enough current not enough current
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the power supply clicked did you hear
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the power
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supply yeah analog power
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supply and it's working
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fine fantastic let me shut down the
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laptop
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shut
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down just to be sure we are getting the
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charging
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current laptop it's
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off and we have 1.9 amps charging
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current yeah it is
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off pretty cool yeah I'm happy I help
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him uh like I said you know he's a he's
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a he's a nice
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guy and I think he really love HP
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laptops I
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mean it he has a bunch of HP leftt
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though so
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yeah okay I'm going to stop now I will
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say uh if you have this problem it's a
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must to check
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uh you have the ldo input which is the
27:27
main Power Ra and you have ldo output
27:30
the ldo input is coming from that
27:32
resistor before the first
27:34
mosfet and the LD output has to be 5
27:40
volts if vdt is pulled below 2.5 volts
27:45
reset all SM bus register values to
27:49
default but the problem was the chip
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with was faulty it's not like something
27:53
draged down that ldo voltage the cheap
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it was faulty so actually the ldo power
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supply from inside of the chip it was
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faulty so I'm going to stop here I will
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