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Fall 10-13-2017

Digital Storage Oscilloscope Tools

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Boyle, Sean. "Digital Storage Oscilloscope Tools." (Fall 2017).

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ICAIA 2017
DSO Tools
Sean Boyle
[email protected]
DSO Tools
• Common “store bought” tools • Shop made tools
• Amp clamp • Pressure transducers
• Amazon/ebay
• Inductive pick-ups (secondary ignition) • Transmissions on hand
• Pressure transducer • Map sensor
• PV350 • FTP sensor
• WPS • Pulse sensor
• Pulse sensor • Piezo microphone/buzzer
• First look • Noise/Vibration
• Chassis Ear
• Ardurino
• Knock sensor
• Speed sensor/trigger
• Temp Sensor
• NTC
Pressure Transducers
Pressure
• Store Bought
• PV350 - $400
• WPS – $780 – $1500
• Shop made
• Search Amazon/Ebay for “500 psi
transducer”
• $16 will get you a sensor and pigtail
• These will test vac and pressure
• Transmissions on hand
• 545rfe transmissions have a 500psi
transducer for line pressure
• MAP sensor
• FTP sensor
Amazon transducer
• Wire to USB cable
• Use quick disconnect fittings
• Use ¼” HDPE Tubing (300psi)
Pressure
• Amazon transducer
0v = 30 in Hg
.5v = 0 psi
2.5v = 250 psi
4.5v = 500 psi
• Set up a custom range in the
scope to display the correct
pressures
Pressure
• Example
• Honda transaxle
• Top scope image is pre-
repair
• Notice the gaps between
gears
• This transmission had flares
during shifts
• Bottom scope image
• Rebuilt transmission, with
new pressure switches and
cleaned cpc solenoids
• Notice the overlap between
3rd and 4th (blue and red)
Pressure
• Example
• Ford transaxle
• Shift into second, then
short flare
• Trans is adapting to
slippage and adjusting
pressures to the max
during the shift
Pressure
• China transducer
• Pros
• Cheap
• Small
• Wide range of pressures available
(5psi to 1600psi)
• Cons
• .5v = zero makes it hard to use
unless you can set custom ranges
• Needs power supply (usb work
fine)
• Slower response rate than a
PV350 or WPS, so it won’t work as
well when checking combustion
events
Pressure
PV350

Amazon
Pressure
• MAP Sensor
• Digital vacuum gauge
• Measure cylinder pumping
contribution

Cylinder One

Power Exh Int Comp

3 6 5 7 2 1 8 4
Pressure Transducers
Pulse sensor
Pulse sensor
• First Look
• Shop made tools
• Pulse sensor
• Piezo speaker/microphone
 Pulse sensor- exhaust

1st Look

Buzzer
 Pulse sensor- exhaust (filtered)

1st Look

Buzzer
Pulse sensor- exhaust (filtered and overlaid)
Pulse sensor
• Intake 1st Look

• Idle

Buzzer
Pulse sensor
• Crankcase 1st Look

• Idle

Buzzer
Pulse sensor
• Crankcase 1st Look

• Idle

Buzzer
Pulse sensor
• Crankcase 1st Look

• Idle

Buzzer
Pulse sensor
Piezo Buzzer
• Cooling system
• Check for
combustion
pulses

1st Look
Pulse sensor
Piezo Buzzer
• Cooling system
• Check for
combustion
pulses

1st Look
zoomed in
Noise, Vibration, and
Harshness
DSO Tools
• Noise/Vibration
• Store bought
• Low tech
• Reed tach
• Electronic
• EVA on ebay for $350 +
• MTS4100 - $4800
• Pico NVH $778
• Smart phone
• Shop Made
• Chassis Ear
• Reuse an old Chassis Ear clip and wire
it to the scope
• Knock sensor
• Ardurino
• $15 accelerometer chip
Noise, Vibration, and
Harshness
Noise Analysis
Noise
• Chassis Ear
• Engine noise
example
• A lot of
interference
Noise
• Chassis Ear
• Engine noise
example
• Filter with 16 bit
resolution
Noise
• Chassis Ear
• Engine noise
example
• Filter with “low
pass filtering”
at 80Hz
Noise
• Chassis Ear
• Engine noise
example 1 6 5 4 3 2
• Zoom in 4X on
noise and move
primary over
noise pattern
• Put a ruler
overlay
indicating
ignition events
for all 6
cylinders
Noise
• Chassis Ear
• Another example
• Piston slap
Noise
• Same vehicle
• Knock Sensor
Noise, Vibration, and
Harshness
Vibration Analysis
DSO Tools
• Vibration
• ADXL335 - 5V ready triple-
axis accelerometer (+-3g
analog out) ($15)
• Adafruit.com
DSO Tools
• Vibration
• Wire the sensor to a USB for
5v supply
• Wire three leads for the X, Y,
and Z axis
DSO Tools
• Vibration
• Assigning a frequency is
simple through a reed tach,
accelerometer, vibration
app
• Discovering the location of
imbalance is the difficult
part
• Optical sensor with vibration
sensor
Optical Sensor
• Experiment
• Infrared sensor qrd1113/1114 (1.90 per
sensor)
• I haven’t tried an optical LED type sensor, but
I assume it might work as well
Shop made vibration analyzer
• Pros • Cons
• Cheap ($20 total) • Experience needed to
• Great teaching tool determine the actual FORCE
• Forces you to do the math of the vibration
• Need a solid understanding
of what you are doing
• Forces you to do the math!
NVH Math
 NVH Math
Vibration – driveline example
• 2wd truck with
vibration at 67mph
• Red channel is optical
pulse
• Blue is z-axis vibration
 NVH Math
Vibration – driveline example
• Zoomed in
• 2wd truck with
vibration at 67mph
• Red channel is optical
pulse
• Blue is z-axis vibration
 NVH Math
Vibration – engine example
• V-6 Engine is idling
around 650 RPM
• Vibration is felt in
steering wheel
• Sensor is placed on
steering wheel
 NVH Math
Vibration – engine example
• 32.75 x 60 = 1965
pulses per minute
• 1956/3 = 655
• 650 rpm engine has a
1950 pulse 3rd order
vibration
• Bad engine mounts
The End!
Questions???