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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW
6 Relative Values
Jordan Stephens from Rizzle
Kicks and his mum, Emmaluna
8 Mrs Amazon
Megan Agnew on Lauren
Sánchez: journalist, pilot and
Jeff Bezos’s bride-to-be
18 Disorder in court
Why are magistrates’ courts in
such a mess? By Emily Dugan
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COVER: SOPHY HOLLAND FOR THE SUNDAY TIMES MAGAZINE. HAIR: MASSIMO GATTABRUSI. MAKE-UP: ROCKY FAULKNER. STYLING: PENNY ROSE
26 Buried treasures
Images of Ghana’s colourful
coffins by Regula Tschumi
37 Table Talk
Skye McAlpine’s speedy
puds, Adam Kay tries branch
three of Bubala, Will Lyons’s
best picnic bottles and Pete
Brown’s mid-strength beers
49 Fitness
How to get rid of back pain
50 Driving
THIS WEEK IN
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left, and the sculptor Arno
Breker for a propaganda film 58 A Life in the Day
1940
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had surrendered to Germany Michelle Collins
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on Sunday when, quite sensibly, last have it?” — and, to my
I decided to check I had my astonishment, it helped. I last had
passport. It would have been the passport in this room yesterday
even more sensible to check morning. I had taken it out of my bag
before leaving the hotel, but because I didn’t want to lose it in the
hindsight’s a wonderful thing. city because I know what I’m like.
So is having a passport, which, at Of the people who are good at
that moment on that pavement losing things, there are those who
in Stockholm, I did not. just accept it and those who adapt.
Normal people would panic I have tried to adapt. With some
at this point but I’m not normal. success I have trained myself to
I always lose my passport and then, put my wallet and keys on the hall
a few minutes later, I always find it table the minute I get home. As
again. No cause for alarm. I took a a result I am proud to say that the
deep breath and had another look. frantic morning wallet-and-key
Still no passport. search is now an exception rather than the rule. I have
I tipped everything out of my bag and on to the a list on my phone of Where Weird Things Are. It says
pavement. Nothing, but I still didn’t panic. There are things like “rugby boot stud spanner next to shoe
people who are good at losing things and people who polish” and “shoe polish next to rugby boot stud
are good at finding things. I’m one of the former. Harriet spanner”. And when I check into a hotel I make a
is one of the latter. She knows where everything is at all mental note of where I put my passport.
times and it’s such an amazing skill that I enjoy testing This system relies on good recall, which, in that
her. I’ll say, “Do you know where the Euro plug is?” and sweaty, stressful moment, I did not have. All I could
she’ll say, “Fourth drawer, cabinet, shower room.” I’ll remember was that I’d put it “somewhere clever” where
say, “Have we still got that book about mushrooms?” burglars would least expect it — but the hotel room was
and she’ll say, “One’s in the green box in the loft and tiny and I’d looked everywhere, clever and not clever.
one’s in the office next to the book about bees.” The UK government website says it takes at least 48
Harriet was not in Stockholm and this was both good hours to process an emergency travel document. I tried
and bad news. It was good news because I could get on hard not to think about all the logistical repercussions
with the search without the eye-rolling. It was bad news of spending “at least” two more days in Sweden.
because if she was here, the passport would be as well. I ransacked the room again. Nothing. I looked at
I still didn’t panic. the bin. A flicker of a memory of a mental note. The
Obviously I must have left it at the hotel. I packed newspaper? Maybe I’d put the passport inside to outfox
my bag again and started running, not because I was the burglars and apparently myself. I grabbed it from
panicking but because if I didn’t run I’d miss the flight. the bin and shook it. No. I went back to the application:
So maybe panicking a little. The room was as I’d left it £125. Ouch. Plus a new flight. Ouch again. And hotels.
— tiny, sparsely furnished, not obviously containing Maybe one last look. And there it was, at the very
a passport. I went through the bedding, I shook out bottom of the bin. It had dived out of the newspaper,
the curtains, I looked in the mini-fridge and the bin. commando-style, and snuck under a Coke can at exactly
Nothing. I emptied my bag again. Still nothing. the wrong moment. In seconds I’d packed my bag again
Then I decided to panic. I pulled off the bedsheets, and was running. Could I still make the flight? I reached
flipped over the mattress, lifted up the cupboard and for my phone to check the time. No phone! Normal
the rugs. Then I asked myself the world’s most irritating people would panic at this point but … n
The gap between births of 800,000 girls were “missing” to fall to about 100,000 this
GOOD boys and girls is closing. from global birth registers due year. There are even signs that
CHARLIE CLIFT
The natural sex ratio at birth to the practice of sex-selective baby girls are now preferable
a record label — then we both ended up at the Brit ‘wagwan’. What if I told your parents?” I was, like, “Boss,
School in Croydon and started making music together
STRANGE take me home now. Chat to my mum, I dare you.”
in 2011. We made the Top Ten with our first single, HABITS They would drop me and my mum would say, “Yeah,
Down with the Trumpets. Becoming famous so suddenly I work in the custody centre, you can piss off now.”
at 19 was a shock. It was positive in a hedonistic way but Emmaluna on When I had the chance to take football seriously
I wish I could have felt more present. Performing again Jordan it was when I was 14 and I’d started smoking weed.
with our new music, I’ll definitely be in my body more. If you even look I was on trial for Brighton and the coach told me,
I went sober in 2018. I was heartbroken; I had cheated away or sneeze “You’ve got to be doing two-mile runs every morning.
and my relationship was over. I spoke to my mum about while watching This is your diet.” I just said no. I’m so thankful that
having suicidal thoughts. I’m her only child and was a film with him other stuff worked out otherwise I’d be kicking myself.
mainly raised by her, though my dad was around. he’ll rewind I’ve been with my girlfriend, Jade, for five years and
She always wanted me to have a connection with the and make you we are super in love. She’s solo now but she was in
Guyanese side of the family, especially my grandma. watch it again Little Mix. Now if I’m going through something my
I didn’t have identity issues when I was younger, spirals are filled with croissants not cocaine. My mum
because I was living on an estate in Neasden and it Jordan on obviously loves her too.
was a melting pot. At no point did I feel like an outcast Emmaluna One thing that Andrew Tate asks, trying to make out
or that it was weird that my mum didn’t look like me. Before she that women are inferior and unreliable, is if you needed
People were more openly racist in Brighton, where drinks from a someone to get you out of a high-danger situation, who
we moved when I was ten. I’d play football against bottle, she sticks are you throwing the car keys to? I’m, like, mate, my
Pease Pottage or Uckfield and kids would tell me to her tongue out. mum. One hundred per cent n
go back to my own country. Honestly, it didn’t really The first thing Interview by Yasmin Choudhury.
upset me. I was good at football, so it was always in that reaches Rizzle Kicks play Glastonbury on Friday. Avoidance,
reaction to me doing something good. the bottle isn’t Drugs, Heartbreak & Dogs by Jordan Stephens
There was a time a police officer was quite racist to her lips, it’s (Canongate £10.99) is out in paperback on July 3.
me. He said, “You lot are always saying ‘blud, blud’ and her tongue To order a copy go to timesbookshop.co.uk
MARRY A
BILLIONAIRE
Cheerleader, news reporter,
pilot, astronaut, the new
Mrs Bezos … The unstoppable
rise of Lauren Sánchez —
by her friends, colleagues
and estranged brother
in Albuquerque. Her tenants say she is a straight after them,” says Cherie Sadler
good landlord, and glamorous. She drops in Mann, 55, a friend who went skiing with
once a year wearing enormous sunglasses Sánchez a few times in Santa Fe as
and they send their cheques to an address teenagers. “She was so charming that she
in Beverly Hills, zip code 90210. left all of us thinking, well, shit, if you’ve got
Sánchez, who was known to everyone it, why not?”
as Wendy, attended a Catholic elementary One of the jocks Sánchez dated “on and
school and then Del Norte High in off ” was Ian Smelser, 55, a star of the Del
Albuquerque. As a teenager she drove a Norte High American football team and
two-door convertible red MG MGB, given now an investigator for the city authorities
to her by her parents, with the number plate in Albuquerque. “She could pretty much
“Wendy 1”. get who she wanted,” Smelser says. He and
She was a cheerleader at high school. Montaño-Espinoza are now a couple.
“She was one of the most energetic and “Boys found Wendy attractive and the
exuberant people at the school,” says her girls were either drawn to her or pushed
classmate Kevin Gant, 56. “She bounced.” away — mostly out of jealousy,” he says. She
Michelle Montaño-Espinoza, 55, who was was voted “biggest flirt” in their yearbook.
one of Sánchez’s closest friends and on the Tom Wade, 55, was one of the guys she
cheerleading squad with her, says she wanted dated in an “off ” period from Smelser. “I was
to be on TV. “She said she was going to be one of the better football players in New ➤
BUT THESE DAYS, SHE SAYS, “I DON’T WANT TO town? “Abso-frickin’-lutely,” she says. “She
was drop-dead gorgeous and determined
beyond belief. She was always getting out
BE A STEWARDESS. I WANT TO BE THE PILOT!” [of Albuquerque]. I never saw her staying.”
After Annmarie took her own life in her
early twenties in 1992, Sánchez stayed in
touch with the family for some years.
Mexico and she was one of the prettier “She’s still hot! She’s always been hot!” Several years earlier, at the age of 20,
girls in New Mexico, so it was one of those He still seems totally taken by Sánchez Sánchez had moved to Los Angeles, where
things that just happened,” he says over and remembers “a good person”. “Wendy her mother served as assistant deputy mayor.
the phone, taking a break from a clattering always said, ‘I’m going to be somebody,’” Sánchez applied to be a flight attendant
building site in Oklahoma, where he lives he says. “Boy, was she right. She was a hard with Southwest Airlines. “Back then they
and has a property company. worker, make no mistake about it.” weighed you, and I weighed 121 pounds,” she
They spent much of their time driving At the time Sánchez also charged around told The Wall Street Journal. “They said,
around in his car, a GMC pick-up, talking. town with Annmarie Ferrari, another young ‘You need to be 115.’” These days, she said,
“So many high school girls, especially if socialite. “They had Albuquerque by the she would respond differently. “I don’t want
they’re dating the football star, can’t handle balls,” says Toni Ferrari, 51, Annmarie’s to be a stewardess. I want to be the pilot!”
the conversation — they’re just happy to be younger sister. “Those two could walk into Instead, in 1990, she won a place on a
there,” Wade says. “But I remember having any room and command it. They never got two-year journalism course at El Camino
lots of in-depth conversations with Wendy parking tickets, they never got speeding College in south Los Angeles. “She sat in the
about my dreams and aspirations, and she very front row,” says Lori Medigovich, 67,
would truly listen.” They broke up at The her tutor. She would always approach guest
Beach, a waterpark where Sánchez had a job. speakers and ask for their business cards.
“She was a force of nature.” Medigovich
“You’re not dumb, you’re just dyslexic” soon noticed, however, that Sánchez was
In class, however, Sánchez was less secure “transposing letters and words in sentences”.
in her abilities. She has said she got “lost She suggested getting tested for dyslexia.
in the school system” due to undiagnosed Sánchez recently recalled being told by
dyslexia. I approached a number of the clinician: “You’re not dumb. You’re just
teachers who taught her, none of whom dyslexic.” “Before, she seemed overwhelmed,
remembers anything particular about her, withdrawn, like there was a dark cloud
just that she was there. hanging over her head,” Medigovich says.
She graduated from high school in the “After that she seemed like a completely
summer of 1987 and enrolled in an acting different person.”
and speech programme at the University
of New Mexico in Albuquerque. Around The TV dream comes true
that time she won prizes at the local Miss And so Sánchez ploughed on. She won a
Hawaiian Tropic pageant. scholarship on the communications course
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up it did feel like it was me and her among the wedding guests, including the school, along the Malibu coastline. It was,
against the world,” he told Vogue in 2023. actors Jennifer Garner, Jessica Alba and she said, one of the only places she felt
He is now 24 and a model. Hugh Jackman, who sang Mack the Knife. “almost entirely in control”. In 2016 ➤
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SURNAME? “UH, YES, 100 PER CENT” “I am looking forward to being Mrs Bezos.”
Michael Sánchez says he has not seen
his sister since 2019 and not spoken to
her since 2020, the legal battle over the
From above: at the leaking of the affair story creating an
inauguration of irreparable fissure. He says their mother,
President Trump Eleanor, met with her to “discuss” the
in January with a situation and the two have not spoken
distracted Mark since. Neither he nor their mother are
Zuckerberg; invited to the wedding, he says.
Sánchez on her It is understood that her father, Ray,
hen party in Paris whom she still visits in Albuquerque, her
last month with brother Paul and half-sister, Elena, will
Kim Kardashian, attend. Elena was one of the 12 women
Eva Longoria and who went to the three-day hen in Paris.
And now she is joining a new family,
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Kris Jenner
the Bezoses — one that happens to be one
of the world’s wealthiest. Out of the dozens
of people I’ve spoken to for this story,
nobody, apart from her brother perhaps,
has resented her success. They talked of her
magnetism and charm. “Force of nature”, as
she is known among her friends and family.
Mrs Bezos? We have lift-off n
DEALT WITH IN A has been doing the job for almost 20 years.
“The criminal justice system is
looking perplexed. Her opponent retorts:
“I’ve got no CCTV, I’ve got no statements.
whose appointment is decided by a do not go ahead on the day they are listed Wales were jettisoned in an efficiency drive
commission — and both lawyers agree has risen from 15 per cent to 22 per cent in to fund the Ministry of Justice’s digital
they would prefer a judge to hear the whole the past decade across England and Wales. reforms. In total 164 out of 320 closed their
thing that afternoon, if it can be arranged. The reasons include court administration doors, raising about £223 million.
Tash and John run between the two court failures, a lack of evidence and defendants The changes were partly in response to
rooms and the magistrates agree to swap not showing up. Delays outside the the fall in crime — contrary to popular
with a judge who is working next door. courtroom don’t help. belief, violence, burglary and car offences ➤
ago. The lack of an interpreter also stopped can pay as much as £15,000 more. recruit a diverse bench than others. Having
more than 700 trials happening on the day, Juan, 55, was a legal adviser in Swindon a case heard in Salisbury is something
up 46 per cent in five years. for 34 years. Last year he moved to the CPS defence lawyers around here try to avoid.
on a significant pay rise to do similarly “It’ll be a lady or a lord — you do not want
skilled work. “When I left, the top of the a trial before Salisbury’s bench,” one says.
At the sharp end of all of this are the legal legal adviser salary scale was lower than Lawyers for both the prosecution and
advisers. There are four serving the it was in 2006,” he says. “No one works defence in Swindon tell me they prefer a ➤
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They are joyous celebrations of life, viewed
as a rite of passage and a chance to bring
pride to the family name. The fantasy
coffin, popularised by the Ga ethnic group
from Greater Accra, is a key part of the
proceedings. Designed to reflect elements
of the deceased’s personality, the wooden
caskets are elaborately painted and
decorated, as seen in these photographs
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for the village tailor, is buried in a bottle traditional priest resembles coffin dancers
laid to rest in a of Paradise brand the teapot he used for perform at the funeral
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PORT R A I T BY
In September last year I saw Depp at the including Stephen Graham and Al Pacino, their relationship was “bound by love …
San Sebastian International Film Festival either help or hinder his artistic greatness. there was never any intent of physical or
for the premiere of Modi. Depp likes the Depp as a director has an eye for detail and emotional harm”.
Basque town: in 2021 the festival gave him eccentricity, while the script is rather blunt. Then, in 2018, The Sun newspaper ran
a prestigious Donostia award for lifetime Two standout lines are “Don’t kill the artist!” an article labelling Depp a “wife beater”
achievement at the height of his “boycott” and “Nothing left to judge!”, while there is that led him to sue its executive editor, Dan
and stuck with him throughout what he a volatile central love affair with a couple Wooton, and its publisher, News Group
tells me later were “all the hit pieces, the throwing objects at each other. I have never Newspapers, for libel at the High Court in
bullshit”. He wants to repay them: on his come out of a biopic and learnt so little about London. He lost in November 2020, with
THESE PAGES: EYEVINE, OSAKIDETZA / DEPARTAMENTO DE SALUD DEL GOBIERNO VASCO/THE MEGA AGENCY, AP
last day in the town Depp dresses up as its subject but so much about its director. Mr Justice Nicol stating, “The great majority
Captain Jack Sparrow to visit children at of alleged assaults of Ms Heard by Mr Depp
the local Donostia University Hospital. epp met the American actress have been proved” — a decision that led to
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At the premiere crowds of intrigued Amber Heard in 2009, on the set of the so-called boycott of Depp as evidence
locals and devoted Depp fans head to San The Rum Diary, a film based on the detailed allegations of drug use, blackouts,
Sebastian’s main cinema, the Kursaal — Hunter S Thompson novel. Depp abuse and a time when Depp claims Heard,
it is a cool, clear night and screams come was 45, Heard was 22. At the time or her friend, defecated in his bed.
from all around, even across the river. Depp Depp was still in a relationship Soon came further acrimony, as the media
remains a huge draw and people gasp as with Paradis. Depp and Heard circus moved to the US. Specifically to a
they glimpse him, in his brown jacket, married in February 2015, but by May 2016 court in Fairfax County, Virginia, when, in
floral scarf and broad-brimmed hat. He Heard had filed for divorce and a restraining March 2019, Depp sued Heard for libel over
waves, signs autographs. A woman yells order, plus $50,000 a month, claiming a column she wrote in The Washington
Post in December 2018 headlined “I spoke
up against sexual violence — and faced our
culture’s wrath”. The trial eventually started
in April 2022, with Depp attempting to
prove that Heard was actually the one who
had violently abused him.
The case was live streamed, peaking at
3.5 million viewers. On social media the
fallout was bleak — mostly for Heard at
the hands of Depp’s passionate fans and,
some allege, bots. In June 2022 the jury
found in favour of Depp, saying he was ➤
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all right. I’ve done that before.” Owensboro, Kentucky, a sizeable
I get that — and to many the second trial sprawl of middle-class city on
did what Depp wanted. Without its verdict the banks of the Ohio River. The
it is unlikely he would be having this revival. family moved a lot before settling
However, when he talks about this period in Florida. Depp’s mother, Betty
of his life and how he was wronged, I can’t Sue, was a waitress, while his father,
help but think of Heard. After the trial in John, was an engineer. They divorced when
Virginia, while one juror said that “there Depp was 15, but scars were formed before
wasn’t enough or any evidence that really
supported what she was saying”, he also said
that “they were both abusive to each other”.
And what was abundantly clear during both
trials was that Heard, a woman with far less
money and significantly fewer fans than
Depp, suffered more in both court and the
court of public opinion than he did.
I saw that at his London trial. The mainly
female crowd outside the court stayed there
for weeks to wave at Depp and scream
death threats at Heard. She used to be his
wife. She was, I tell him, somebody that he
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n a stifling day in Manhattan last choke on the celebration, the confetti. “In suggest you just follow that.’ ”
September, Depp is putting the the end you die,” goes the recording of In 1983 Depp drove to LA with his band
finishing touches to an exhibition Depp. “You actually die.” the Kids, later renamed Six Gun Method.
of his art called A Bunch of Stuff. As a child Depp found escape, not He wanted to be a rock star but the band
Later there will be an opening through acting, but music. His brother broke up. A few months later, in 1984,
night party, attended by two titans was the biggest influence, teaching him to he found himself up for a small role in
who represent the two sides of listen to less Frampton Comes Alive, more Wes Craven’s seminal horror film
Depp’s resurgent career — the indie film Van Morrison. “Music was all I did from A Nightmare on Elm Street. “I didn’t know
director Jim Jarmusch, who cast him in age 12,” he says. “I found my purpose.” what I was doing,” Depp says. “And it
Dead Man in 1995, and the super-producer Even at that young age Depp was was strange I got the role,
LANDMARK MEDIA, SHUTTERSTOCK, ALMY, GETTY IMAGES
Jerry Bruckheimer, who ran the billion- gigging in the punk rock clubs of because it was written for
dollar Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. South Beach Miami where an athletic type, but this
Depp is on a wander, passing comments “people usually just go to was early 1984, so I was
to his team, who are busy creating various score”. Was he still at white as a sheet, skinny,
forms of content. He has paint splattered school? “By 15 I didn’t see gaunt and tattooed.”
on his hands and, occasionally, he picks up anything worth sticking Three years after that he
and strums an acoustic guitar. A patch on around there for,” he was cast as the lead in 21 Jump
his jacket reads “Take no shit”. says. “I wasn’t dumb Street, the hit TV series about
We amble through the gallery, an ad hoc but I just knew I cops going undercover in
space in a 1930s building in Chelsea. There wasn’t going to be schools. It changed everything.
are a lot of skulls and skeletons. In one vast an accountant.” Depp was a star now, an actor
immersive room his voiceover drolly if Did his teachers by accident, something he
support his was so uncomfortable with
decision? “Yes! that he once defaced
When I first a billboard featuring
dropped out his character,
From top: in A Nightmare on Elm Street, I kept thinking Officer Hanson.
1984; with Leonardo DiCaprio in What’s about all the “I was so miserable
Eating Gilbert Grape, 1993; with Winona chicks I’d see in the doing Jump Street,”
Ryder in Edward Scissorhands, 1991 hallways that I had Depp says. “I mean, I was
crushes on, like this lucky as a bastard, but it was
chick Renee. So I went uncomfortable. It was around ➤
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if Depp simply wants some
At the opening of his company. He breaks out a bottle
immersive art exhibition of red wine — given that he used
A Bunch of Stuff in New to spend more than $30,000 a
York in September month on wine, I gladly accept a
glass. He proudly shows me a first
edition he bought of Arthur Rimbaud’s
poem Est-elle Almée? from 1872.
Then he shares the music he loves via
then people started whispering when I his laptop and a Bluetooth speaker. First,
walked in a room. This image is cultivated a cover of Bob Dylan’s Girl from the North
that you can’t control.” Country that he recorded with Marcus
How did he deal with fame? “Well, to Mumford of Mumford & Sons in Los
this day I just rarely go out,” he says, rolling Angeles. He says he loves the Dublin rock
out one of his loud, lengthy guffaws. “If band Fontaines DC. He wonders what
friends invite me out for Mexican, I say, the odds are on his old friends in Oasis
‘Dude, that’s sweet of you but I will ruin lasting an entire tour: “Noel is funny as
your night.’ My presence will bring f*** and I saw Liam at Glastonbury a few
attention and, Jesus, I have had almost years ago and he was positive, cool and
40 years of fame but I’m still not used sweet, which was great to see, because
to it. And I’m glad I’m not.” I remember another Liam from many
What advice does he give to Lily-Rose? years ago.” He mentions the guitarist Jeff
He smiles. “Sometimes kids say to me, Beck, who formed a band with Depp in
‘I want to be an actor, what’s your advice?’ his final years and died in 2023: “He was
And I say, ‘Don’t be!’ I know what’s coming my best friend.”
for them. I was chucked on that road and Depp clearly prefers the company of
the only advice that I can give is, ‘Don’t
allow anyone to make you something you “I RARELY GO OUT. musicians, spinning yarns about Kurt
Cobain and Courtney Love, and the time
are not.’ They’ll want you to be a poster boy
and it’s tempting — a lot of money. And
if that’s the direction you want? Go for it.
IF FRIENDS INVITE when he and Kate Moss went to St Barts
in the Caribbean — “That’s what Kate
liked to do!” — and were struggling to
But don’t let anybody choose for you.”
Hence his CV of oddballs, with Jack
Sparrow his only definitively mainstream
ME OUT FOR figure out the lyrics to the just released
REM song Find the River. In a bind, Depp
simply phoned up Michael Stipe, REM’s
part. As a child Depp loved the Three
Stooges, Abbott and Costello and Tex Avery, MEXICAN, I SAY, singer, over speakerphone.
Conversation meanders and opinions
and admired the 1970s counterculture
entertainers Andy Kaufman and Richard
Pryor. You can see this inspiration in Modi
‘DUDE, THAT’S tumble out — a few juicy ones that he takes
off the record, which given what else he is
happy to say indicates quite how juicy they
— “I love the timing, rhythm, madness.”
“And that’s my legacy, right?” he SWEET OF YOU BUT are. He laments a boom in reality TV, in
which “some f***ing guy from f***ing
continues. “My films. That is what I ended
up with after 40 years of making faces. And
my kiddies will live with that legacy as well
I WILL RUIN Podunk, Iowa, can get his own show” and
worries what quick-grab fame has done
to a generation. “Not necessarily all those
— they’ll have to carry my legacy with them
once I hit the skids.”
Which brings us back to the Heard trials
YOUR NIGHT’” kids stuck the landing particularly well.”
He sighs, a man who belongs to a bygone
era, when Hollywood made movie stars,
and how people he worked with spoke out not franchises and memes. “There was a
against him. While talking about Heard who lie to you, celebrate you, say all sorts of quality of person — comedian, actor. They
he is imprecise; when it comes to the film horror behind your back, yet keep the were unique, you know?”
industry he is clear and evidently furious money — that confetti machine going — Depp is going to miss this old London
about the Hollywood power-players because what do they want? Dough. home. After we meet he heads off to shoot
who jumped off what they considered a “I’ll tell you what hurts,” he continues. Day Drinker and he knows he is about to
sinking ship. His ire for them is bubbling, “There are people, and I’m thinking of be reintroduced to the world. But it seems
passionate. Take, for instance, his agent three, who did me dirty. Those people were like a world that he feels out of step from.
Tracey Jacobs. She signed Depp in 1988 and at my kids’ parties. Throwing them in the “I’ve a deep appreciation for times gone
made them both millions before he sacked air. And, look, I understand people who by,” he says. “There was simplicity, certain
her in 2016, reportedly citing financial could not stand up [for me], because the kinds of inherent moral, ethical standards.”
concerns. In deposition in the Heard trial, most frightening thing to them was And he thinks that has changed? “Yes,
Jacobs claimed some studios had become making the right choice. I was pre-MeToo. for the most part.” He talks about the dark
“reluctant to use” Depp because of his I was like a crash test dummy for MeToo. wooden floorboards under our feet and all
tardiness on set. Depp disagrees. It was before Harvey Weinstein.” Heard’s the people who have walked them over the
“As weird as I am, certain things can be accusations came a year before the centuries. And he talks about this quite
trusted,” he argues. “And my loyalty is the producer’s fall from power. “And I sponged sadly, in a way that suggests the past is
last thing anybody could question. I was it, took it all in. And so I wanted from the where he would like to be n
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with one agent for 30 years, but she spoke hundreds of people I’ve met in that
in court about how difficult I was. That’s industry to see who was playing it safe.” Modi: Three Days on the Wing of Madness
death by confetti, these fake motherf***ers He pauses. “Better go woke!” he hisses. is released on July 11
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Right: chocolate hazelnut
mousse and lemon mousse.
Far right: cinnamon
sugar fan biscuits
I
a crumbly dough. Roll it into a
you need lots of ingredients ball, wrap in clingfilm and put
to concoct a fine dessert. in the fridge for at least 20 min.
One of my go-tos, for
example, is sourdough toast 2 Heat the oven to 140C fan/
topped with shards of dark gas 3. Line a baking tray with
chocolate, a drizzle of olive parchment paper. Divide the
oil and salt — all things dough into 12 pieces, each
you probably have kicking roughly the size of a walnut,
around in the kitchen then roll each piece into a ball.
cupboard but I can’t tell Place on the tray, leaving at
you how good it tastes. Puff least 2cm between each piece,
pastry is handy to keep in the and gently press down on top
fridge for emergencies and can of each ball with your thumb
be magicked into all manner to make a little indentation.
of sweet treats, not least the
sugar biscuits here, but also 3 Bake for 15-20 min until
try cutting the pastry into lightly golden at the edges and
squares, spreading with Nutella, dry to the touch. Once cooled,
pistachio cream or jam, then spoon a scant teaspoon of
folding in two (like a sandwich) pistachio cream into the little
and baking in a hot oven for hollow on top of each one.
15 minutes or so until golden
to make “turnovers”. Otherwise, Chocolate hazelnut mousse
simply bake a sheet of pastry This is a wonderfully smooth,
whole until lightly golden all creamy and chocolatey pudding.
over, then, once cooled, top I make it with Nutella but you
with whipped cream and fresh can use whatever brand of
strawberries for a rough but chocolate spread you like —
showstopping galette. just make sure it’s at a runny
consistency before you fold it
through the whipped cream Scoop roughly 50g out of the fruit, rhubarb or pretty much
Pistachio cookies or your mousse will turn out bowl and set to one side, then any curd that takes your fancy.
These are little thumbprint lumpy. Once made, the mousse gently fold the Nutella through You can serve it in a glass or
cookies: not overly sweet, will keep happily in the fridge the remaining whipped cream small dish, but presenting it in
crumbly at the edges and for up to two days. until well combined. the zesty shell of half a lemon
chewy almost to the point of is always a showstopper.
being fudgey at the centre. The Ingredients 3 Divide the mousse across
pop of sweetness comes from (Serves 4) four glasses or small bowls Ingredients
the dollop of pistachio cream • 250g Nutella and chill in the fridge for at (Serves 4)
on top of each biscuit, but you • 300ml double cream least 30 min before serving. • 2 whole large lemons
could swap that for raspberry • A handful of fresh Top each portion with a dollop • 200g lemon curd
or strawberry jam. raspberries, to serve of whipped cream and some • 200ml double cream
fresh raspberries.
Ingredients 1 Briefly warm the Nutella 1 Slice the lemons in half from
(Makes 12 small cookies) in the microwave for 20-30 Lemon mousse end to end and scoop out the
• 300g pistachio cream seconds until soft and runny. This is such a simple way to flesh. Combine the lemon curd
• 150g plain flour make mousse it almost feels as and the cream together in a
• 1 egg, lightly beaten 2 In a large bowl whisk the though you’re cheating. You can large mixing bowl and whisk
with a fork cream until soft peaks form. swap the lemon curd for passion until it holds its shape.
sugar coating. You can leave clean kitchen surface. something that looks like a to 220C for the last ten
the cinnamon out if you like or closed book. minutes. They’re ready
swap for ground mixed spice. 2 Place the sheet of pastry when they are golden
over the sugar and use a 3 Cut the pastry into short with a crunchy outside n
Ingredients rolling pin to roll backwards, strips, each roughly 1-2cm By Hannah Evans
(Makes 14-18 biscuits) pressing the pastry into the thick. Bake for 10-12 min,
• 70g caster sugar sugar. Fold the two short until lightly golden and the Send questions to
• ¼ tsp ground cinnamon ends of the rectangle about sugar on top has caramelised. kitchenclinic@sunday-
• 1 packet of ready-rolled a quarter of the way towards Allow to cool before serving n times.co.uk
R E S T A U R A N T S Adam Kay l
BUBALA
KING’S CROSS
y wedding reception
M
was held upstairs at
the Ivy. Back then,
there was only one
Ivy: our favourite
spot in London,
where — in the
pre-soft-play days,
when our disposable
income wasn’t
funnelled directly
into Bluey Inc — we’d had our
favourite, joyous, boozy dinners.
It was the only possible venue.
But now, with an Ivy on every
high street, it’s like announcing
we got married at a Zizzi.
And here, with slight regret,
I present another cautionary
tale of overexpansion.
I love Bubala. It opened in
Spitalfields in 2019, offering a
vibrant take on Middle Eastern
food that was delicious, quietly
The carrot main was so bland it **************************************
vegetarian and deeply hip — not could have been a Sunday roast THE DAMAGE
that I’m in any position to judge **************************************
hipness, but various beard-oil side. I almost took a Covid test Falafel, tahini £10
users have assured me that it Pickles, laffa flatbread £8
was. Its firstborn arrived in We were welcomed in by a The falafels were 10/10. Just Hummus, burnt butter £8.50
Soho a few years later, and this brilliant Kiwi manager, but it’s the right amount of give on the Halloumi, marmalade £13
sequel proved even better. not quite the restaurant I know outside and fluff on the inside, Leek, amba, jalapeños £11
It was The Godfather Part II, — it’s cool and airy rather than all served on a tahini so white, Spanakopita borek £12.50
Thor: Ragnarok, Miley Cyrus. cosy, all concrete, exposed smooth and creamy it should Mushroom skewer £5
Bubala 3 is a 15-minute trek plaster and towering arched have an SPF number. Bread and Confit potato latkes £8.50
from King’s Cross station, windows. It would be hard to hummus were also spot-on. Carrot, feta, apricot £17
located in the sprawling say the place had much The laffa, a scorched flatbread Baked basbousa £9
techtropolis, presumably personality, as if it’s ready to threatening to become a naan, Bottle of Christina
to vary the lunch options be turned into a Wagamama tore with a sublime stretchiness Grüner Veltliner £46
for Google and Facebook or Côte at a moment’s notice. and was the perfect mode of Subtotal £148.50
employees. The walk gave You have the option of a £33 transport to shovel in the glossy Service (12.5%) £18.56
me plenty of time to hype up per person mezze sharing menu hummus, pimped up with nutty **************************************
the food to my husband, J. By or choosing, as we did, from the burnt butter. “See?” I said to J. Total (for two) £167.06
the end of my pitch, he was twenty or so à la carte dishes. But, alas, man cannot live **************************************
practically jogging there. We picked about half of them. on chickpeas alone. Charred
P
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pastry — but was polystyrene than fine dining or a meticulously Rosé Spain (11%) Morrisons,
dry; the fist of sesame-miso prepared meal. Often the joy of £7 A light, fruity sparkling rosé
chutney on the side delicious eating outdoors is its spontaneity, bursting with strawberry, red
but ultimately unable to simplicity and informality. So apple and cherry. Ideal for a
perform CPR on its neighbour. never mind the grand cru and relaxed evening in the park.
Leeks came doused in a the white tablecloth, make a last-
Mexican-themed gratinated minute dash to the supermarket 2024 Pinot Noir Romania
béchamel of jalapeños and for a selection of cold meats, a few (12.5%) Waitrose, £7 Romania
sheep’s cheese, with a tangy cheeses and, yes — a bottle of has an ancient winemaking
amba (mango pickle, to save you something light and refreshing. lineage and this marries a soft,
a google) reminding us we’ve A crisp, easy-drinking white with plenty of juicy texture with a wave of
got one foot in the Middle East. fruit is a good catch-all. Albariño, sauvignon inviting dark fruit. Great value.
But the leeks were unforgivably blanc, pinot grigio and vermentino all do
tough. The thoughtfully the trick; Tesco’s 2024 Wairau Cove Reserve 2024 Taste the Difference
provided utility knife wasn’t up Sauvignon Blanc from New Zealand (£10) Discovery Souvignier Gris
to the job — I think I’d have is a case in point, with its vibrant gooseberry France (12.5%) Sainsbury’s,
needed a power tool. and aromas of cut grass. £9.50 This blend of souvignier
I will forgive them for calling If it’s lunchtime you could choose a lighter gris and sauvignon blanc is
hash brown cubes “latkes”, but I wine such as M&S’s dry and refreshing 2024 vibrant, floral and refreshing.
can’t forgive them for the potato Classics No 7 Vinho Verde from Portugal
being grey. The carrot main was (£7.50), which is just the bottle for whiling 2023 Rimini DOC Bianco Italy
so underflavoured it could have away an afternoon with its slight spritz, (12%) Majestic, £10 A clean,
been a side for a Sunday roast green apple and citrus. On the subject of crisp, trebbiano-dominant
— I almost took a Covid test. spritz, our high streets are full of well-priced white from Emilia-Romagna,
The button mushrooms on the fizz. Try the floral and peachy NV Terre this imparts a zesty burst of
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pickle plate were overly soft, di Faiano Organic Spumante Brut from citrus and a touch of apple.
slightly redolent of a Travelodge Emilia-Romagna in Italy (Waitrose, £11).
breakfast. The basbousa dessert, Given the British weather, it’s no bad 2024 Guigal Côtes du Rhône
a warm semolina cake with idea to pack a bottle of red for when the Rosé France (14.5%) Ocado,
pineapple and coconut, had dark clouds appear. You want something £14.25 This salmon-pink rosé
intricate flavours but was stone nice and juicy like a beaujolais, a southern is a full-bodied mix of classic
cold in the middle. Unforced hemisphere pinot noir or perhaps a light Rhône grapes, making it ideal
error after unforced error that northern Italian red, such as a dolcetto or for picnics and barbecues.
made me keep apologising to J. a valpolicella. More unusual is Portugal’s
Maybe these were all teething 2022 Sedoso Douro from the Co-op 2023 Cascina delle Monache
problems — the restaurant has (£8.75). Silky-textured and packed with Bricco della Lodra Italy (12.5%)
only been open a month. (“Ask red fruit, it’s a great pairing with cold The Oxford Wine Company,
your server about our daily wine meats. And if you’ve neglected £15.50 Dolcetto at its best, this
specials!” screamed a box on to bring the corkscrew, don’t lovely smooth red has hints of
the menu. I asked a server, who pass over the convenience violet, berry, spice and plum.
asked another server, who told of wines in a can. The
us there were no wine specials.) Uncommon English White
Maybe we caught them on an off Wine Spritzer (Ocado, Bargain of the week
day. Or maybe this is a moment £4.55 for 250ml) offers
for Bubala to take a beat, a slug of cucumber 2022 Finest Saint-Chinian
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different reasons. been creeping upwards since, 3.4 per cent. So if a beer is 1.2 to 3.4 per cent to take advantage of
Because it tastes thanks to the influence of 3.4 per cent, a brewer now pays the tax break. The huge savings
great. As a prop continental lagers (typically 5 less than half the duty they pay this has brought the brewers
for social per cent), but everything goes on beers of 3.5 to 8.4 (the duty have not resulted in lower prices
bonding, an in cycles and we’re increasingly on beers over 8.5 per cent was for the consumer. (Carlsberg
excuse to meet looking for beers that allow us hoicked up at the same time). says the cash lets it “invest in
pals in the pub. to drink without getting drunk. The response to the change innovation and in our portfolio”.)
For the warm, Low and no-alcohol products says a lot about the people who Alternatively, you could brew
fuzzy feeling. have made their mark. But mid- brew your beer. Multinationals a new beer specifically to taste
The advantage strength beers at 1.2 to 3.4 per slashed the ABVs on various great at 3.4 per cent or less. One
beer has over other drinks is cent ABV — often referred to as brews: Carlsberg Pilsner has in five small independent UK
that it makes it easier to control small beers — are on the up too. been reduced from 3.8 to 3.4 brewers have done exactly that.
the effect of the alcohol: the In August 2023 the per cent, while the Heineken- We’re probably never going
path to inebriation is longer, government raised the ABV owned Sol and John Smith’s back to the days when “small
so you have more time to enjoy threshold over which brewers Extra Smooth were reduced beer” was served in schools and
the taste and the social bonding. hospitals and “table beer” was
In the early 20th century, drunk by whole families. But
steelworkers, glassblowers and
miners wanted to drink a few
We’re probably never going back this selection of beers old and
new taste so good you’ll want
pints — partially to quench to the days when small beer was to drink them all day — and are
their thirst — and be able to low enough in alcohol that you
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in a can, Anthem but better. It’s also full strength. The IPA
uses UK hop varieties great in cocktails (for (also gluten free) just
that are fruity but ideas, see the brand’s pips the stout as the
nicely balanced. YouTube channel). best in the range.
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at a verifiable figure for number. Billions and billions of Cilindri. As ever, and like a beef flailing about under the bonnet.
the total number of engines. And the vast majority steak, it sounds better in Italian But there is some precedent for
internal combustion have made an appalling racket. but simply means “12 cylinders”. this. For many years, when all
engines ever produced. Car enthusiasts will hate me As an aside, the Reliant Robin, Ferraris were V12s, they were
Estimates suggest there for saying this but I stand by it: a plastic three-wheeler named known by numbers indicating
are about 1.4 billion of all the cars I’ve owned I can after a common garden bird, their “unitary displacement”,
vehicles with internal think of only one that made a would be, had Italians conceived ie the capacity of one cylinder.
combustion engines on vaguely pleasing noise, which of such a thing, the Pettirosso So the fabled 1950s Testa Rossa
the world’s roads, but was my V6 Alfa Romeo 164. It Vetroresina Tre Ruote. See? was a 250, making it 3.0 litres.
that doesn’t account for burbled nicely in the mid-range This is the convertible version. The very first Ferrari was the
everything that’s gone to and was subdued enough to be Of the Ferrari, I mean. 125S, a V12. Yes, your phone
the scrappy. That number enjoyable to those on the inside It is, say its makers, “a car for calculator is correct, it displaced
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The word “ageing” is thrown
at women all the time. All this
pressure to look gorgeous and
youthful; spending hours doing
A L I F E I N THE D AY your make-up … It happened
when Mike and I got together.
C
ollins was born in
Hackney, London, and daffodils, thinking they were
was brought up by her spring onions.
mother in Highbury. I was born in north London
She studied drama and I still live here. I love the
at Kingsway College. charity shops and my mum did
Best known for her role as too. It’s where she often found
Cindy Beale in EastEnders, clothes for me and my sister.
she has also appeared in Even in her later years she
Doctor Who and Coronation couldn’t resist a bargain. When
Street and on Loose Women. she died four years ago, all the
She returned to EastEnders local charity shop staff saluted
in 2023 after a 25-year as we went past.
break and makes her debut If I was starting out in acting
at the Edinburgh Fringe this today I don’t think I’d have a
year. She lives in north chance. You need to know
London with her husband, somebody in the industry and
Mike, and has a grown-up have parents with the money
daughter, Maia-Rose, from to support you. Even back in the
a previous relationship. day I was turned down for drama
schools because of how I talked.
I can’t lie around in bed, it seems As a working-class girl I felt like
such a waste. With EastEnders a minority in that world. Yes,
we often work from 7am to 7pm, you’ve got kids making short
five or six days a week, but even films on their phones now,
if I’m not working I’ll be up at but they still need to eat. It all
six. Mike always brings me comes down to money and if
coffee in bed. In my younger, you ain’t got it you’ll struggle.
party-girl days, breakfast was A whole section of society is
coffee and a fag, but now I have being locked out from the arts.
a bit of fruit and I’m straight out was so massive they came up Mike and I will sometimes
with the dogs, chatting to half in Princess Diana and James
WORDS OF WISDOM go out in the evening, but I like
of north London. Gilbey’s Squidgygate tapes. Best advice I was given parties that are over by nine so
There were times in the past Adam Woodyatt plays Ian; he Speak your mind. It’s I can be back home and in bed
when I wasn’t quite as chirpy. and I didn’t always get on in the something that’s got a lot for ten. I rarely go to sleep
Usually when there had been early days but there’s a lot more easier as I’ve got older straight away because there
a front-page picture of me after love and respect in midlife. are always five or six projects
a few G&Ts. It happened once Being in EastEnders has been Advice I’d give on the go. I might be learning
just before I opened the fête at incredible, although fame can Have lots of strings to your lines or looking for ideas for
my daughter’s school. She was be unsettling. After I split with bow. Don’t get too focused my TV production company.
only five and I could see all the my daughter’s father in my on acting. Write, make films, When it is finally time to
parents nudging each other. mid-thirties, I did get myself collaborate ... go to sleep I’ll find a nice, juicy
I was 26 when I started in into a bit of a state. I had left true crime podcast. Mike isn’t
EastEnders and nothing could EastEnders and I was depressed. What I wish I’d known keen on grisly murders at
have prepared me for the I honestly wasn’t sure I could Have confidence in yourself. bedtime, but I’ll happily close
impact. Viewers love to hate my carry on living. But then I You’re actually quite good my eyes while someone’s getting
character, Cindy; I get stopped thought about my mum. On her their head chopped off n
on the street more when she’s own, with two daughters, hardly Interview by Danny Scott.
naughty. People ask why she’s any money even though she Michelle Collins is at the
MARK HAYMAN
so horrible to Ian, her husband was working two or three jobs … Edinburgh Fringe from July 30
— they’re always fighting, like She never gave up and I decided in Motorhome Marilyn;
George and Mildred. The show I wasn’t going to either. gildedballoon.co.uk