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Gas FID Knowledge

The document discusses the flame ionization detector (FID), including its main components, theory of operation, gas connections, jets, pneumatic control, configuration, troubleshooting, and planned maintenance. The FID ionizes compounds to produce a measurable current proportional to concentration and is highly sensitive to hydrocarbons. It works by burning the sample in a hydrogen-air flame and measuring the ions produced.

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Gas FID Knowledge

The document discusses the flame ionization detector (FID), including its main components, theory of operation, gas connections, jets, pneumatic control, configuration, troubleshooting, and planned maintenance. The FID ionizes compounds to produce a measurable current proportional to concentration and is highly sensitive to hydrocarbons. It works by burning the sample in a hydrogen-air flame and measuring the ions produced.

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6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization

Detector

Comparison of GC Detectors
ELCD

(SorN)

ELCD

(X)

AED

TCD
FID
ECD
NPD (N)
NPD (P)

FPD (S)
PID

IRD
(SIM)

(SCAN)

MSD

Sensitivity

10 -15

10

fg
1 ppt

-12

-6

10 -9

10

pg

ng

ug

1 ppb

1 ppm

0.1 %

10

-3

mg
100 %

grams

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization Detector - Main Components


Igniter
Teflon Insulator
Collector
Interconnect/Spring
Electrometer

Jet
Heater/Sensor Assembly
Detector Base Assembly
Column Adapter

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization Detector Theory of Operation

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

H2 - Air Flame
Sample is burned in flame
When burned produces charged Ions
Ions attracted to collector
Collector current converted to output via Electrometer

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization Detector

FID EPC Flow Manifold


Detector Pneumatic Connection
Gas Connections to GC

FID Flow Measurement Tool

FID Jet
Plugged FID Jet

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization Detector

FID Igniter Replacement

Complete Detector Assembly

FID Collector Removal

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization Detector - Jets

Jets for Capillary-Optimized FID


Jet Type

Part Number

Jet Tip id

Capillary

G1531-80560

High Temp

G1531-80620

0.29 mm
0.011"
0.47mm
0.018"

Jets for Adaptable FID


Jet Type

Part Number

Jet Tip id

Capillary

19244-80560

Packed

18710-20119

Wide bore
Packed

18789-80070

0.29mm
0.011"
0.47mm
0.018"
0.030"

High Temp
Capillary

19244-80620

0.47mm
0.018"

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector
EPC Pneumatics
Filter
Proportional Pressure
Frit
sensor
valve
Air In

PS
Pressure
Control loop

H2 In

PS

Make up In

PS

Restrictors

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector

FID EPC Flow Module

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector

6890 EPC Module


Original Design

New Detector Mini-fold

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector
F DET MAKEUP MODE
*Const makeup flow
Col+makeup=const
<

FRONT DET (FID)


Temp
250
H2 flow
30.0
Air flow
400.0
Mkup (N2)
30.0
Flame
Off
Output
0.0

250 <
30.0
400.0
30.0

Mode:Col+mkup=const
Combined flow
0.0
Makeup flow
0.0

Mode: Const makeup


Mkup flow 0.0 Off

CONFIGURE FRONT DET


Mkup gas type
N2 <
Lit offset
2.0
Electrometer
On

FRONT DET MAKEUP GAS


Helium
<
*Nitrogen

<

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector
FRONT DET (FID)
Temp
H2 flow
Air flow

250 250 <


30.0 30.0
400.0 400.0

Mkup (N2)
Flame
Output

30.0 30.0

Off
0.0

CONFIGURE FRONT DET


Mkup gas type
N2
Lit offset
2.0 <
Electrometer
On

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector
Optimum hydrogen flow rate versus carrier flow rate
Hydrogen Flow (ml/min or kPa)

50
(156)

40
(132)

30
(107)

20
(75)
20

30

40

Carrier Flow (N 2 ), ml/min

50

60

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector

Air Flow Rate vs Pressure

Hydrogen Flow Rate vs Pressure


80

Hydrogen Flow (ml/min)

Air Flow (ml/min)

800

600

400

200

60

40

20
100

200

300

Pressure (kPa)

400

500

20

100

150

Pressure (kPa)

200

250

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector

Compounds with little or no FID


response
Rare Gases
Nitrogen Oxides

NH3
H2

CS2
COS

Silicon Halides

CO

O2

H2O
Perhalogenated
compounds

CO2
HCOH

N2
HCOOH

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector

Typical Problems
Flame out
Spiking
Low Sensitivity
Noise
Drift

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector

Flame won't light


Measure Flows
Clean/Replace Jet (6850 Jet Test)
Are column and fittings tight ?
Is the tank pressure high enough ?
Is the Detector ON ?

6890 GC Detectors - The Flame Ionization


Detector
Noisy Baseline
Turn off
Air/H2

Still Noisy

No

Contamination
problem

Yes
Electronic/Mechanical
Problem

Replace Detector
Board/ interconnect/
Teflon Insulators

Check:
Filters,Traps,Gasses
Clean Jet
Verify Column max

HP 6890 - Flame Ionization Detector


Planned Maintenance
- Replace Jet (per Customer)
- Clean/Replace Collector
- Inspect interconnect and spring
- Inspect ignitor glo-plug - replace if necessary
- Measure H2/Air/Makeup Flows
- Turn off H2 and measure FID Leakage Current - < 2pA
- Ignite FID - monitor background and noise
<20 pA and stable
- Run customer sample or Agilent Checkout per 6890
Service Manual section 600.

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