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Lesson 2 Advantages and Disadvantages of Indeterminate

The document discusses the advantages and disadvantages of statically indeterminate structures compared to statically determinate structures. Some key disadvantages of statically indeterminate structures are that geometric changes can cause indirect stresses, fabrication errors can put forces on all members, and temperature changes or foundation settlement can induce thermal or settlement stresses. However, statically indeterminate structures also have advantages in that they experience lower stresses and have greater stiffness compared to statically determinate structures.

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0% found this document useful (3 votes)
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Lesson 2 Advantages and Disadvantages of Indeterminate

The document discusses the advantages and disadvantages of statically indeterminate structures compared to statically determinate structures. Some key disadvantages of statically indeterminate structures are that geometric changes can cause indirect stresses, fabrication errors can put forces on all members, and temperature changes or foundation settlement can induce thermal or settlement stresses. However, statically indeterminate structures also have advantages in that they experience lower stresses and have greater stiffness compared to statically determinate structures.

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Lesson 2

Advantages and Disadvantages of


Statically Indeterminate Structures
Advantages/Disadvantages
Geometric changes cause indirect stresses
Geometric changes cause indirect stresses

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


1. Fabrication Error

If this is accidentally
Fabricated too long…

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


1. Fabrication Error

If this is accidentally
Fabricated too long…
All joints just move to
New positions

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


1. Fabrication Error

If this is accidentally
Fabricated too long…

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


1. Fabrication Error

If this is accidentally
Fabricated too long…
Then it must be
Compressed into place

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


Which puts these in tension
1. Fabrication Error

If this is accidentally
Fabricated too long…
Then it must be
Compressed into place

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


1. Fabrication Error
Which puts forces on all members

If this is accidentally
Fabricated too long…
Then it must be
Compressed into place

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


1. Fabrication Error
Which puts forces on all members

No Stresses. Members go together. Members must be forced to fit.

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


2. Temperature Changes
SUN

Heated

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


2. Temperature Changes
SUN

Heated

No Stresses. Positions just change

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


Joints restricted by truss-action
2. Temperature Changes
SUN
SUN

Heated Heated

No Stresses. Positions just change

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


2. Temperature Changes
SUN
SUN

Heated Heated

No Stresses. Positions just change Thermal causes stresses

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


2. Temperature Changes
SUN
SUN

If Expansion Joint does not Heated Heated


Allow expansion, this duct
Is statically indeterminate

No Stresses. Positions just change Thermal causes stresses

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


2. Temperature Changes
SUN
SUN

If Expansion Joint does not Heated Heated


Allow expansion, this duct
Is statically indeterminate

No Stresses. Positions just change 800F high-temperature gas causes it to


Thermal causes stresses
Crumple like a beer can

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses

Simple Beam Simple Beam


Pier

Pier

Pier

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


3. Foundation Settlement

Simple Beam Simple Beam


Pier

Pier

Pier

Any Settlement:

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


3. Foundation Settlement

Simple Beam Simple Beam


Pier

Pier

Pier

Any Settlement: No Curvature. No moment

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


3. Foundation Settlement

Simple Beam Simple Beam


Pier

Pier

Pier

Any Settlement: No Curvature. No moment

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


3. Foundation Settlement

Simple Beam Simple Beam Continuous Beam


Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Any Settlement: No Curvature. No moment

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Disadvantages

Geometric changes cause indirect stresses


3. Foundation Settlement

Simple Beam Simple Beam Continuous Beam


Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Any Settlement: No Curvature. No moment Any Settlement: Curvature! Moment!

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate
Statically Indeterminate Advantages
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
M M

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Advantages
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
wL2/8

M M

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Advantages
1. Lower Stresses
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
wL2/8
wL2/21.4
M M
M M

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Advantages
2. Greater Stiffness
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
D=

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Advantages
2. Greater Stiffness
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
D = 5wL4/384EI

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Advantages
2. Greater Stiffness
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
D = 5wL4/384EI

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Advantages
2. Greater Stiffness
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
D = 2.1wL4/384EI
D= 5wL4/384EI

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


Statically Indeterminate Advantages
2. Greater Stiffness
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate
DOIs = ??
Statically Indeterminate Advantages
2. Greater Stiffness
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate
DOIs = 0 DOIs = 1
Statically Indeterminate Advantages
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
A catastrophic event eliminates the middle pier

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


DOIs = 0 DOIs = 1
Statically Indeterminate Advantages
3. Greater Robustness – May survive redundant loss of massive overload
Pier

Pier
Pier

Pier
Will NOT Survive MAY Survive
(zero redundancy) (if the beam can take a
Substantial increase in moment)

A catastrophic event eliminates the middle pier

Statically Determinate Statically Indeterminate


DOIs = 0 DOIs = 1

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