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Retests

The document discusses retests that occur after breaks of support or resistance levels. It outlines the dilemma of whether to trade the initial breakout or wait for a retest, noting that retests offer better risk/reward but no guarantee of a trade. Immediate versus rounded retests are defined, with rounded retests tending to be clearer setups. Considerations for deciding whether to trade the break or retest include precedent in the instrument's behavior, risk/reward, and the context of trends and timeframes. Overall the framework provides guidance for capitalizing on breaks of structure through breakout or retest trades.

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Retests

The document discusses retests that occur after breaks of support or resistance levels. It outlines the dilemma of whether to trade the initial breakout or wait for a retest, noting that retests offer better risk/reward but no guarantee of a trade. Immediate versus rounded retests are defined, with rounded retests tending to be clearer setups. Considerations for deciding whether to trade the break or retest include precedent in the instrument's behavior, risk/reward, and the context of trends and timeframes. Overall the framework provides guidance for capitalizing on breaks of structure through breakout or retest trades.

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Retests

By @CryptoCred
Outline

● Disclaimer
● General Remarks
● Basic Premise: Breaks and Retests
● Dilemma Outline: Trade Guarantee Versus Risk:Reward
● Gauging a Breakout
● Immediate Versus Rounded Retest
● Considerations
○ False Dilemma
○ Precedent
○ Risk:Reward
○ Hidden Retests
○ Context
● Conclusion
Disclaimer

Neither this presentation, nor anything on my Twitter, Telegram, or any other medium/mode of
communication, including private correspondence, constitute financial advice.

I am not a financial advisor and hold no formal qualifications in this area.

Trade entirely at your own risk.

This is for entertainment purposes only.


General Remarks

● No one-size-fits-all
○ Best results will come from rigorous testing and contextual decisions
● Framework applicable to a wide range of systems
○ PA, Cloud, MA, Trendlines etc. → any system which can identify breaks of structure
● Missed trades are normal
○ Breakouts vary, retests vary etc. → can’t catch them all
● Embrace the uncertainty
○ Confirmation quickly becomes ‘copefirmation’
○ “How do I know if X is going to hold?” → You can’t!
■ Framework for making higher probability bets
● “The market needs to retest X to confirm it as support/resistance!”
○ No.
○ The significant event is the break of structure
● You do not have to trade every single breakout/breakdown
Basic Premise: Breaks and Retests

● Losing support is typically bearish


○ The breakdown and/or the retest of the broken support may be a chance to sell
● Breaking resistance is typically bullish
○ The breakout and/or retest of the broken resistance may be a chance to buy
● This video addresses how, when, and whether to trade such occurrences
Dilemma Outline: Trade Guarantee Versus
Risk:Reward
● Often a trade-off between R:R and certainty (or confirmation)
○ Less certainty often offers superior R:R
○ More certainty often offers inferior R:R
○ Basic example: trading at a level versus trading away from a level
● Retest dilemma
○ Wait for retest
■ Superior R:R
■ Trade not guaranteed
○ Trade the breakout
■ Trade guaranteed
■ Inferior R:R
Gauging a Breakout

● Video relies on the idea that the breakout/breakdown has taken place
○ Seeking to answer how/when/whether to trade it
● These principles become inapplicable if you’re buying a failed breakout or selling a failed
breakdown
○ In effect, you end up buying resistance/selling support
● Quick but imperfect remedy is aligning time frames
○ Daily structure requires daily close through it to be broken, H4 close for H4 structure, etc.
○ Watch time frames video
● Time frame traps
○ A low time frame ‘breakout’ at high time frame resistance can be just a wick
○ A low time frame ‘breakdown’ at high time frame support can be just a wick
● Try to be as certain as practically possible that a break in structure has actually taken place before
using these principles!
Immediate Versus Rounded Retest
● Definitions:
○ Immediate retest: trading at or near structure when it breaks
■ Trading the break itself
■ “X just broke, what’s my action here?”
○ Rounded retest: trading at or near structure after the break has played out
■ Trading a return to the break
■ “This was a big area that the market moved away from, what’s my action now that we’ve returned to it?”
● Considerations
○ Rounded retests offer an easier decision-making process given you’re not trading the break itself
○ Rounded retests tend to be clearer setups; the fact that a retest is rounded implies a meaningful break took place
○ Rounded retests typically give you more time to think, plan, and act
○ Similar balancing act
■ Trading the break more likely to guarantee a trade but higher chance of getting trapped (+ worse R:R)
■ Trading the retest less likely to guarantee a trade but lower chance of getting trapped (+ chance of no fill)
● Not a binary choice
○ Sometimes the break is very clear but the retest doesn’t happen or is very unattractive
○ Other times the opposite is true
○ Contextual considerations (later) will make this decision easier, but no rules against trading both sides
Consideration I: False Dilemma

● Basic premise: splitting position equally between the break and the retest i.e. you don’t have to
choose one over the other
○ E.g. Close above resistance → 50% position on the close, 50% in the form of a limit order at the level
● Benefit is a guaranteed trade even without a pullback, with full sizing if the market offers one
● Downside is that the trade is guaranteed to be suboptimal one way or another
○ If it pulls back, your average entry is worse than if you had waited for a retest (less space to manage
comfortably)
○ If it doesn’t pull back, you’ve only got half size on the trade
● Disclosure: I don’t trade like this
○ I prefer establishing positions with conviction i.e. either the break is so significant that I want exposure
ASAP, or I don’t mind missing the move and it’s only attractive back at structure (with optimal R:R)
Consideration II: Precedent

● Basic premise: does the instrument you’re trading (in its current trend) offer regular
retests?
○ Yes → Great, wait for the retest
○ No → Don’t expect it
● It’s mostly as straightforward as it seems
● Exception: sometimes this behaviour shifts as a trend becomes more/less aggressive
○ E.g. retests taking place at the early stage of a trend but then it goes parabolic and retests
become rare / vice versa
○ Suggestion: look at more recent price action for context
Consideration III: Risk:Reward
● Basic premise 1: waiting for a retest/pullback may be necessary where entering on the break presents inactionable R:R
○ Closer to structure = usually better R:R
○ Further from structure = usually worse R:R
■ Sometimes the break is so big that a follow up entry doesn’t make sense
● Reframing:
○ What move am I trying to capture?
○ How much of that space has already played out as a result of the break?
■ If the break has already taken your idea (mostly) to target, the R:R to chase it without a retest often isn’t there
● Basic premise 2: the precision of your entry is inversely correlated with the size of the move you’re trying to capture
○ If you’re trading an intraday range, there’s less to capture so your entry must be more precise
■ Frequently occurs, selectivity with entry warranted
○ If you’re trading a high time frame swing, there’s more to capture so your entry can be less precise
■ Occurs less frequently, can afford to be less selective with entry
● Basic premise 2.1: the precision of your entry is inversely correlated with the significance of the idea/level/structure you’re trading
○ Not all setups are made equal
○ “If X breaks, the entire market is going to shit 20%” → does it really matter whether your entry is 1% or 3% away from X?
○ Opportunity cost from missing a rare setup just because the entry wasn’t perfect can suck e.g. BTC/USD 6k reclaim, 20k breakout, etc.
Consideration IV: Hidden Retests

● Basic premise: Fast-moving, high time frame breaks sometimes offer retests on lower time frames,
which aren’t always visible on high time frames
○ Example: daily time frame looks like the market just mooned after breaking a level, but lower time frames
show a retest at the break before continuation
● In order to capitalise on this, consider leaving limit orders at the broken structure and/or monitoring
it on lower time frames
● These retests are often short-lived and happen very quickly; exactly what you want to see when
there’s real imbalance in the market with one side rolling over
● Generally speaking, the more time price spends stuck at/near an ‘important’ level after breaking it,
the more likely the break is to fail
○ Big level → big participation → one side gets rinsed
■ If your interpretation is correct, the market should move quickly as the losers cut their trades, get
liquidated etc.
Consideration V: Context
● As a reminder, the basic framework we’ve followed thus far:
○ Losing support is typically bearish; the breakdown and/or the retest of the broken support may be a chance to sell
○ Breaking resistance is typically bullish; the breakout and/or retest of the broken resistance may be a chance to buy
○ This isn’t always applicable!
● Rangebound environment
○ In a range, resistance is for selling and support is for buying
○ Price will often poke at/through the extremes before reverting to the mean
○ In these cases, the probability of a failed breakdown at support/failed breakout at resistance is much higher
● Strong underlying trend and/or high time frame structure
○ In a bull trend/at support, failed breakdown setups are likely
○ In a bear trend/at resistance, failed breakout setups are likely
○ Even if there’s follow through, hunting a buy at reclaimed support/sell back below resistance is more attractive than chasing the counter-trend move
● Rounded retest context
○ A lot can happen between a break and the subsequent retest
■ In terms of time but also structure
○ E.g. H1 support breaks, reaches D1 support, and comes back to H1 support turned resistance
■ Breakdown target reached + fading daily bounce with lower time frame structure → lower probability trade
○ Just like not all levels are equal, contexts vary as well
■ Where is price coming from?
■ Do I want to stand in front of it?
■ This one comes with experience!
Conclusion

● There’s no single answer or formula


○ Breakouts vary, retests vary, contexts vary etc.
● As with all my content, goal is to arm you with tools to make well-reasoned decisions
within a replicable and intelligent framework
● Don’t be complacent where a good entry matters
● Don’t be greedy where a pristine entry isn’t required
● As a discretionary trader, context is not only your friend; it’s likely your edge
● [Generic wisdom about no replacement for screen time, DYOR, etc.]
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